00:17 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:25 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 00:39 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh4] Mirza (AnnaimMirchaz) (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10182 points, T:313, quit 00:43 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:44 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 23 points, T:275, killed by an electric shock 00:49 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 daggers named (+1) on an altar, on T:4292 00:52 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) averted death, on T:51793 00:54 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52090 00:54 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:52102 00:55 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:52169 00:58 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess, on T:52455 00:58 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:52458 00:59 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52492 01:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 522 points, T:1315, killed by a small mimic 01:05 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53097 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh4] Mirza (AnnaimMirchaz) (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16226 points, T:374, killed by a system shock 01:08 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53465 01:09 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:53603 01:11 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53892 01:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:15 !whereis Luxidream 01:15 Beholder: Message from K2 at 2019-05-21 18:35 EDT: hi 01:15 K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [sp]: (Kni Dwa Mal Law) T:54741 The Dungeons of Doom level: 28 (with Amulet) 01:16 run Forrest, run! 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] mcsnuffy (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4899 01:17 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) averted death, on T:55042 01:18 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased amulet of life saving", on T:55072 01:18 stupid shambling horror 01:19 you must have gotten a real nasty one for this game 01:19 What did it do? 01:20 <@Shin Umbygashima> Ooh, lemme know if the Wizard has a funny mustache the next time you waste him 01:20 stoning 01:20 missed it in all the battle span 01:21 doh 01:22 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55856 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] mcsnuffy (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1843 points, T:5239, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse, while sleeping 01:22 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:56022 01:23 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56024 01:23 OK better save 01:23 I don't want to do that again 01:23 good call 01:23 <@Shin Umbygashima> Whoopsie, let my centaur pick up an amulet while testing shop goods 01:23 <@Shin Umbygashima> turns out it was reflection 01:23 <@Shin Umbygashima> :brokeback: 01:23 save at each transition from plane to plane 01:25 Luxidream ^ 01:25 got it 01:26 [hdf-us] [evil] smzp (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 291 points, T:810, zombified by a gnome zombie, while unconscious from rotten food 01:27 OK can you recover K2? 01:27 yup 01:27 one sec 01:28 -!- PavelB has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:28 alright I'm logged out 01:28 gdamn 01:29 another one of those unrecoverable crashes 01:29 good thing you saved 01:29 one sec lemme recover the save 01:29 nethack is so broken 01:29 goddamn 01:31 ok go for it 01:31 ded 01:31 instantly 01:32 kicked to dgl 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an incubus, on T:7752 01:33 wow 01:33 <@Shin Umbygashima> fuck man 01:34 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 01:34 is the game just rip then? 01:34 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:35 try again 01:35 same thing 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] Mirza (AnnaimMirchaz) (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 27352 points, T:1345, killed by a dwarf 01:36 that's from the save backup 01:36 does it keep every save backup? 01:36 or just the last one 01:36 just last one 01:37 welp I guess that game is fucked then 01:37 gg 01:37 hmm 01:37 i have a coredump from your initial crash 01:37 i told you 01:37 the game doesn't want lux to win 01:38 I've gotten screwed out of at least three dynahack ascensions 01:38 so this isn't new 01:38 you remember what you were doing before the crash? 01:38 plane of fire i think 01:38 moving through the plane of water minding my own business 01:38 oh water 01:38 oh you mean the very first crash? 01:38 no the latest 01:38 yeah same thing except the plane of fire 01:39 ok 01:39 hm maybe try it again and you'll crash on astral next time 01:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1317 points, T:2747, killed by a soldier ant 01:39 K2 are you the sporkhack maintainer these days? 01:40 pretty much 01:40 https://termbin.com/md25 01:40 ^ backtrace of coredump 01:41 that was the coredump from about 3 hrs ago 01:41 so it segfaulted after somebody threw something? 01:42 possibly 01:42 Luxidream there's the older save from before 01:42 i can put that back if you want 01:42 Oh boy 01:43 sure why not 01:43 ok 01:44 ok ready to load 01:45 Luxidream: when you're at a saving point, let me or Tangles_ know before loading the game back up, that way we can make a backup of the save that dgl wont touch 01:45 OK, got it 01:45 I did this with Tariru last summer with slex - it crashed so many times on him during the ascrun it was nuts 01:46 that sounds like the most slex thing ever tbh 01:46 watch me die legitimately on the ascension run this time 01:47 "The glitch monster suddenly appears! You are frightened, unable to move. The glitch monster hits! A segfault occurs! Your save file disintegrates! You die..." 01:49 if you don't wand of death the wizard on dynahack planes 01:49 he causes a segfault 01:49 what 01:49 is that deliberate 01:49 he's pretty much unkillable normally 01:49 I lost several runs to this 01:50 clearly dynahack's rodney has become self-aware 01:50 and is now actively manipulating the files to prevent ascensions 01:51 Ugh... just catching up on this backscroll now. 01:52 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51769 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] mcsnuffy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3344 01:52 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:51776 01:52 Yeah I backed up your save at the last recovery. Will have a closer look at the coredump (and rename it so we can get another if you crash again, and see if there's anything we can do with the code. 01:53 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:51803 01:53 lux you need to start saving at the start of every plane 01:53 I did 01:53 dang 01:53 then the save segfaulted on load 01:53 so here we are 01:53 this is serious 01:54 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51814 01:56 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess, on T:51978 01:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> Intentional segfaults, unintentional segfaults, all when you're actually close to beating the run 01:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> What a meme 01:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> ngl, it's turning me off that variant 01:58 OK I am saving now 01:59 ok one sec 02:00 there are other things that should turn you off of spork 02:00 like... 02:00 nazguls! 02:00 screw those guys in particular 02:01 !who 02:01 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] MHL [nh362] StatueSurfer [nh362] mcsnuffy [nh362] RedArrow [nh362] Luxidream [sp] anemoi [fh] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 02:01 how did nazguls get buffed 02:01 ok Luxidream 02:01 good to go 02:01 <@Shin Umbygashima> Yeah, what makes them horrid 02:01 <@Shin Umbygashima> (more than usual) 02:02 their stun scream 02:02 they can stun you every turn 02:02 from halfway across the map 02:02 does not require line of sight 02:02 the way sporkhack and unnethack have it, its if *you* can see/sense *them*, you're affected 02:02 evilhack its the other way around 02:02 <@Shin Umbygashima> Oh yikes 02:02 and the stun isnt as long 02:03 ...so you would have to intentionally blind and deafen yourself 02:03 evil patch idea: "Shall I leave your cloak on, lover?" 02:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> Legitimately sounds miserable, even if semicontrollable 02:03 and no esp 02:03 ugh 02:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> >blinding yourself with floating eye telepathy 02:03 yeah 02:03 upside in spork/unnethack is you can genocide them 02:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> that just sounds like a mess 02:04 I think evilhack reduced the stun attack? 02:04 i did 02:04 really screws spellcasters 02:04 to lower the number of player suicides 02:04 the duration isnt as long 02:04 and they have to see you 02:04 is that "sight" subject to the long-standing vanilla mutual sight bug 02:05 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:52912 02:05 i mean, is the mutual sight bug fixed in like any variant 02:07 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:53178 02:07 oooooooops 02:07 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/bffbf698ff0990d80d8467ed132f62f6ba745b58 02:07 ^ my version of nazgul 02:07 brb killing myself 02:07 Water gets into your bag named cursed! Far below you, you see coins glistening in the water. 02:08 not in the water in the bag though 02:09 oh it was a sack anyway (just died of New Weapon Syndrome) 02:09 :/ 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] mcsnuffy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5137 02:16 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54284 02:17 ok i gotta go to bed 02:17 up in 4 hrs 02:17 Luxidream good luck 02:17 thanks 02:17 night K2 02:17 if Tangles_ is busy, just save what ya got and we'll pick it up later 02:18 gnite o/ 02:18 there's a dwarf here that neither I nor my housecat can touch 02:19 probably wearing mithril and the works 02:19 too bad I'm a wizard and not of the "wear mithril until you're high level" school 02:20 gah, got killed by a random hobbit after fleeing from the dwarf 02:21 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided class 'R', on T:49717 02:23 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55383 02:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] MHL (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2210 points, T:6845, killed by a giant mimic 02:25 Tangles_ can you back up my save? 02:25 just got to DL:1 02:25 !lotg Luxidream 02:25 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, Luxidream! 02:26 um yeah one sec. 02:26 third times the charm 02:27 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:55720 02:27 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55725 02:28 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) were chosen to steal souls for the glory of Kos, on T:49986 02:28 ok that one's backed up now. 02:29 thanks 02:29 good luck! 02:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] MHL (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 278 points, T:1081, killed by a giant bat 02:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:9473 02:30 [hdf-us] [evil] winny (Val Gia Fem Law) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:1061 02:31 [hdf-us] [evil] winny (Val Gia Fem Law), 796 points, T:1086, burned by molten lava 02:32 stupid minesflayers 02:32 i guess i'll do soko now 02:33 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:56049 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] mcsnuffy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3922 points, T:6239, killed by a jaguar 02:34 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:56082 02:35 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Death, on T:56111 02:35 <@Shin Umbygashima> :PogChamp: 02:35 hahaha 02:36 sweet revenge 02:36 [hdf-us] [sp] Luxidream (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 4632428 points, T:56119, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/sporkhack/dumplog/1558291339.sp.txt 02:36 Awesome! Congrats Luxidream :) 02:36 A voice booms "Congratulations, mort- *game crashes* 02:37 grr 02:37 there's an invisible gnome 02:37 bashin' in your head 02:37 after I'd killed or escaped all those visible gnome lords 02:37 who ya gonna call 02:37 gnome busters 02:40 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:40 test 02:44 <@Shin Umbygashima> Thattaboy Luxi! 02:45 <@Shin Umbygashima> GGs! 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:10601 02:45 <@Shin Umbygashima> D: ! 02:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:45 <@Shin Umbygashima> I can only hope they're tying extinctionism 02:45 <@Shin Umbygashima> *trying 02:46 no i think you can tie extinctionism 02:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> Lul 02:46 all extinctionists are really tying each other aren't they 02:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> Also first Orctown of 3.6.2 02:46 grats 02:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> and of course it's a dark level 02:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> :ResidentSleeper: 02:47 the first sporkhack win in 4 months 02:47 really not a popular variant are we now 02:47 which is how long it took to recover from all the crashes? 02:48 yeah I'm not touching this again until junethack 02:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> tbh it's a good thing I got Orctown 02:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> only a level 5 Arc, no good armor yet 02:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> fuckin' lame ass dwarves 02:48 how does that help 02:49 there's no good armor in orctown 02:49 well 02:49 maybe you'll get a +1 orcish helm 02:49 only dwarves and maybe hobbits carry decent armor 02:49 <@kriptospicebox> grats on that asc luxi! 02:49 thanks icebox 02:50 it was actually kind of fun until I had to do the ascension run 3 times 02:50 it looks more like "kripto spicebox" 02:50 <@luxidream> it's a joke name 02:50 <@kriptospicebox> it's the nick on discord 02:50 his real name is icebox 02:51 <@kriptospicebox> dunno if it's still a joke, but icebox is my true souls name 02:51 ah 02:51 !ping 02:51 Luxidream: Pong! 02:51 lux are you on both irc and discord 02:51 simultaneously 02:51 Yes 02:51 RNG, if you must send me dwarves, send me some that (a) have daggers and (b) leave corpses. 02:51 <@kriptospicebox> lux is actually everywhere 02:51 k 02:54 What do you want to eat? [suB or ?*] 02:54 didn't know subway had branched out into the dungeons of doom 02:54 yeah they tried but it ended up not working out 02:55 I have to assume they weren't making any profits off of the 5 zorkmid footlong 02:55 all their stuff was eaten by animals or stolen 02:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] mcsnuffy (Pri Hum Mal Law), 454 points, T:2319, died of starvation, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:55 and all their customers got cut down by divinely inspired heroes 02:55 I won't eat this suB then, it's probably stale 02:55 and some of it is elf kibble 02:55 don't even get them started on shipping stuff down into a dungeon 02:56 no, nethack food never expires if it doesn't come from corpses 02:56 that Yendorian fuel tax is a business killer 02:56 the eggs go bad 02:56 but not the carrots or melons 02:56 <@Shin Umbygashima> Hi Icebox 02:56 after all we all know plants are immune to aging 02:56 <@IceBox> sup shin 02:56 <@Shin Umbygashima> @StatueSurfer also it helps because I got to Orctown when I was level 5 02:56 you can also roll a boulder over a melon and it's still fine when you pick it up 02:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> So the spawns are already there 02:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> For when I come back with not-shit armor and better weapons 02:57 the dev team doesn't think of everything 02:58 acid blobs don't expire either, not sure if there's anything else 02:58 or the dev team actually believe plants are immune to decay 02:58 lichen and lizards don't decay 02:59 yeah 02:59 of course chickens also don't turn people to statues irl 02:59 no, not even rubber chickens 02:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> Don't acid blobs rot normally? 02:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> They only don't 'expire' for sac purposes 03:00 blobs don't decay, but they do expire 03:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> Right, words 03:03 eeeek 03:03 shouldn't have eaten that 03:05 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 03:06 Morning. :) 03:07 !who 03:07 StatueSurfer: [hdf-us] DishOfTheDay [nh362] mcsnuffy [nh362] Luxidream [dyn] anemoi [fh] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 03:08 Luxidream: Looking at your crash from earlier, it relates to trying to place a thrown boulder off the edge of the map. I think this has been seen before in the valk quest. 03:08 ah, because items lodge in walls? 03:08 when thrown? 03:09 how did a boulder end up on the plane of water 03:09 no the first crash 03:09 plane of fire 03:09 ah 03:09 there were a ton of fire giants, and I had conflict 03:09 It's fairly rare because usually the boulder will hit a wall or some boundary before going off the edge, but on those really open levels like the planes (and some quest levels) it can go off the edge. 03:10 so the edge of the level actually isn't a wall? 03:10 The game didn't produce a coredump for the later crash unfortunately. 03:10 i'm pretty sure the real challenge of the planes isn't the enemies it's getting past the glitches and 50000 messages per turn 03:10 do normal projectiles not trigger a crash then? 03:10 just boulders? 03:11 oh spork astral is plenty hard 03:11 ah 03:11 I just came prepared this time 03:11 Luxidream: the crash is related to trying to block you from seeing things behind the boulder, so normal projectiles would not trip it. 03:11 ah gotcha 03:12 last time I came to spork astral I got surrounded and owned in a handful of turns 03:12 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:12 as I learned you can take over 100 damage if you're surrounded by angels :p 03:13 but they aren't immune to conflict? 03:13 there's the conflict nerf where's it's dependent on your charisma 03:13 oof 03:14 there's also the fact that 1 angel can do about 30 damage in a round if it wants to 03:15 they get asked? :) 03:18 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:39 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 03:40 -!- testi_ has joined #hardfought 03:44 -!- Loe has joined #hardfought 03:46 -!- Loe has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1561 points, T:2636, killed by a soldier ant 03:59 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:00 OK I understand the cause of the spork boulder crash. I'll gave a fix in a day or so. 04:06 [hdf-us] [nh4] ePR5 (yong) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 26984 points, T:2231, killed by a kitten 04:16 [hdf-us] [nh4] gWZD1 (yong) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 18669 points, T:1095, killed by a gas spore's explosion 04:16 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "The Eyes of the Overworld", on T:52552 04:16 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:22 !rng arc cav hea 04:22 eraserhead97: arc 04:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:25 {Demo}2: great. these replace all of dnethack's achievements? 04:25 bhaak: Message from {Demo}2 at 2019-05-21 19:43 EDT: https://github.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/blob/master/achievements.csv they are ready 04:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:33 [hdf-us] [nh4] ePR3 (yong) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 14906 points, T:987, killed by a magic missile 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Milfy (Kni Hum Mal Law), 12 points, T:338, killed by a sewer rat 04:37 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:53323 04:44 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] ePR4 (yong) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 22616 points, T:1436, killed by a giant ant, while engraving 04:53 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:53 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:53432 04:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:58 {Demo}2: also, do you want them grouped in different rows? 05:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:12 damn - and I thought priest was hard 8^P I think arch seems even more difficult 05:12 https://i.imgur.com/DROYSOP.png 05:15 I'd be dead 5 times over already if it weren't for pets & E 05:16 still 5 days until registration 05:17 thx for reminder ^^ 05:41 crapola - angered god 8^P - if arch weren't hard enuf already... 05:47 [hdf-us] [nh4] ePR5 (yong) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 25524 points, T:1744, killed by a giant bat 06:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:6650 06:01 wut? damn - this warhorse outta control - LoL 06:02 too bad Oracle has no drops 06:04 your warhorse killed the oracle? o_O 06:04 aye 06:05 he killed a shopkeeper earlier, too - I had to use leash on him for 2nd shop 06:05 respect 06:05 lol 06:07 yeah - this arch way too squishy - I need to use the warhorse as a body-shield or I'd be dead by now 06:09 swarm of killer bees - I'm about to die 06:10 they are just doing their job! 06:10 i.e. killing stuff 06:10 yeah - they're doing a very good job 06:10 ok - gonna zap w/ /oD - might see a reflection spam here 06:11 oops - I can use /oStriking first 06:12 [hdf-us] [un] Asriel (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 425 points, T:1182, killed by a gas spore's explosion 06:14 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:17 omg a silver saber on sokoban-level floor - am I dreaming? ^^ 06:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:22 crapola - yet another wand death 8^P 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 4658 points, T:7813, killed by a bolt of cold 06:41 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 2300 points, T:1195, killed by a watchman 06:43 rip 06:53 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 06:54 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 06:57 Hiya. 06:59 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:00 [hdf-us] [un] Asriel (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 2438 points, T:2031, killed by a snow ant 07:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3375 07:04 @Luxidream congrats on the spork asc 07:05 about damn time ;) 07:06 <{Demo}2> whoa he did it? 07:06 <{Demo}2> good work 07:06 he did 07:06 multiple unrecoverable crashes later 07:07 but Tangles_ knows whats causing them 07:08 so fix is forthcoming cuz Tangles_ makes crash bugs bend to his will 07:08 congrats luxidream :) 07:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Elf Fem Law), 472 points, T:478, killed by a small mimic 07:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] oWZD1 (yong) (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 34281 points, T:5093, killed by a giant ant 07:18 [hdf-us] [un] Asriel (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 843 points, T:295, killed by an incubus 07:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10317 07:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 38434 points, T:10365, burned by molten lava 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 2552 points, T:4884, killed by a raven 07:35 aww krm26 died :( 07:36 was that you? 07:36 !lastgame krm26 07:36 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1558482699.evil.txt 07:36 no it was someone well at evilhack until now 07:36 not sure it's anyone in here 07:37 ah 07:37 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 39368 points, T:965, killed by a monster (pitiful-looking beggar) 07:37 !RNG Islnders | Nethack 07:37 Mickmane: Islnders 07:38 oh, hm, even with the typo 07:38 confused by a goblin shaman and stepped in lava 07:38 aww 07:38 might not have noticed the confusion. that happens to me sometimes 07:39 i get confused 07:39 yeah, was thinking could happen to anyone 07:52 before i forget to say it 07:52 morning morning 07:52 Morning. :) 07:54 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 16927 points, T:603, killed by a monster (deer stomach criminal) 07:57 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 60 points, T:185, killed by a sewer rat 08:04 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 26700 points, T:171, killed by a psychic blast 08:06 you all ready for nethack 3.6.3 bleeding edge 'work in progress' ? :) 08:07 oh yeah we have a few nextversion commits yet 08:08 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commits/NetHack-3.6 08:08 Sprintf(res, "glorkum[%d]", otyp); 08:08 oh thats debug things 08:09 two random engravings were added by a third party 08:09 devteam actually merging pull requests, wowo 08:10 362-hdf is about to become 363-hdf 08:11 all existing games are save compatable 08:11 well, will 3.6.3 be the next version number? 08:11 i thought that was undecided yet 08:11 perhaps? include/patchlevel.h shows 3.6.3 08:11 fair 08:12 imo the devteam should have just kept it at 3.6.2 official release and just continue to do bug fixes, which is basically what these latest commits are 08:13 and then start work on 3.7 branch 08:13 but that's me 08:13 i just work here and do as i'm told 08:15 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:16 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 19705 points, T:226, killed by a monster (elder astral elemental) 08:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] 3m3hm3t (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1562 points, T:5118, killed by a cave spider, while frozen by a potion 08:20 !who 08:20 K2: [hdf-us] MaxLunar [slex] Asriel [un] | [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:20 oh wow 08:20 starts have aligned 08:20 i can cut over to 363-hdf now on us 08:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:22 hooray for aligned starts 08:23 !who 08:23 K2: [hdf-us] MaxLunar [slex] Asriel [un] | [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:24 what's aligned starts? 08:24 i think he just mistyped 'stars' and i went along with it 08:24 Unix NetHack Version 3.6.3-1 Work-in-progress - last build Wed May 22 08:19:19 2019 08:24 woot 08:24 bleeding edge 08:24 yup 08:24 easier to update because all saves are save compat 08:24 hardfought on the battlefront of nh development again 08:24 i just copy them over to new folder, bam 08:24 thats why we love it <3 08:25 :P 08:25 what are aligned stars? 08:25 stars 08:25 Mickmane, its a saying 08:25 like * or stars in the sky? 08:25 Mickmane, stars in the sky 08:25 ah, not familiar with that 08:25 thinking about a german appropriation right now 08:26 I think you mean something like stars (or rather planets) in a line? 08:26 it's like, when all the good things happen together so you can do a certain thing 08:26 die Sterne sind ihm guenstig? 08:26 die sterne stehen guenstig 08:26 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 15570 points, T:236, killed by a monster (Windows 7) 08:26 yeah something like that 08:26 anyway, I think I got it now, thanks :) 08:26 back to waiting for my cat to pick up stuff. :) 08:27 moew 08:27 meow even 08:27 my dragon crashed a door again, I locked the other pets away so they'd stop messing up, sigh 08:28 !who 08:28 K2: [hdf-us] MaxLunar [slex] Asriel [un] | [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:32 hm, wonder what to eat today. 08:33 food 08:33 good place to start 08:36 where do i go with nodehack now 08:36 i could implement awesome features (local play, ttyrec support) 08:36 i could also be super insane with webgl 08:37 i could also be super mega insane with a tensorflow bot even though i don't know shit about tensorflow 08:37 NetHack 362-hdf updated to 363-hdf (bleeding edge) (all servers) 08:38 now to update beholder so we can see the games 08:39 hah, food, yes 08:39 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 08:40 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ยค JunetHack 2019 tournament is almost upon us, registration begins May 27th - https://junethack.net 08:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 08:40 !who 08:40 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [nh363] hackedhead [nh4] MaxLunar [slex] Asriel [un] | [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:40 !whereis k2 08:40 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [nh363]: (Sam Hum Fem Law) T:360 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 08:40 huzzah 08:40 wewt 08:40 K2, could you tell Beholder to greet my 'Morning. :)' and my 'Hiya', please? :) 08:40 nope 08:40 morning 08:40 awww 08:40 tach 08:41 servus 08:41 moin 08:41 feelsnotgermanman 08:42 K2, can you not or do you not want to= 08:42 ? 08:43 dont wanna 08:43 aw, shame 08:43 there's enough auto greeting from Beholder as it is 08:43 dont need more 08:44 !who 08:44 K2: [hdf-us] Karnac [nh363] hackedhead [nh4] MaxLunar [slex] Asriel [un] | [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:44 ok beholder is updated on all 3 08:44 now for hdf scoreboard bits 08:44 add unique auto greetings for everyone, and goodbye messages, and death messages and .. and .. or maybe not 08:44 farfar sssshhhh! :P 08:45 soudns good 08:45 K2: :D 08:45 good idea 08:45 i will remind you of that idea every 30 minutes 08:49 dont make me invoke best friend powers 08:49 i will *call* you every 10 min 08:50 D: 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 777 points, T:1093, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:53 [hdf-us] [un] Asriel (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of NCommander, the former Lookout, on T:5336 08:55 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 43675 points, T:929, petrified by a bashing a petrifying monster 08:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1821 09:01 now i have a 'brain power' earworm for no apparent reason 09:04 Amy, I found a bug. With your non-rectangle shops, when you enter the space that -could- be a wall if the shop were rectangle (but it isn't because it's weird shaped and so that spot isjust dungeon), I got the "welcome to foo store" message. 09:08 EvilHack updated (all servers) 09:09 ^ same bleeding edge code updates as 363-hdf 09:09 woot 09:09 Amy, and digging my way into a spot that would be inside, and picking up a gem I saw there, he wants money for it. 09:11 if I hadn't already emptied that shop, it would have been far easier to repeatedly steal my 500z item. 09:13 I'm not sure if there was some monster that dug into the shop, which could have caused the shop size confusion, or if it's always this way. 09:13 I'lll test with the next shop. :) 09:14 btw, digging around in the dungeon did not anger the shopkeeper 09:19 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) defeated Vlad the Impaler, on T:60005 09:20 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:60068 09:25 Karnac has the first ever public 3.6.3 game recorded 09:25 grats! 09:25 a day for the history books 09:25 killed by a jackal 09:26 priest 09:26 score was 777 09:26 go figure 09:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 12 points, T:50, killed by a grid bug 09:36 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 09:40 lucky number sleven 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1240 points, T:4242, quit 09:43 wth, my char isn't going whre I step, and I'm not confused or stunned (nor do I hit my pets, I displace them) 09:43 wonder what slex nonsense causes that 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 297 points, T:736, killed by an electric shock 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 807 points, T:1365, killed by a gnome, while jumping around 09:48 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 09:48 so I started up a 363 wizard 09:48 ...they don't have a cloak of magic resistance 09:49 is this a bug? 09:50 no idea 09:50 lemme look 09:50 did you get any kind of cloak? 09:50 I can't find any commits that would suggest this is actually a thing 09:50 nope 09:50 AC 10 09:51 Guess what? Rangers don't have a cloak either 09:51 hahah 09:51 welcome to bleeding edge 09:52 oh god 09:52 did I set nudist 09:52 I thought I changed my options already 09:52 ..... 09:52 I'm an idiot please ignore me 09:53 why, it's funny 09:53 :) 09:53 also comforting that others can be a bit fuzzy headed at times, and it's not just me. 09:54 ok whew 09:54 lol Luxidream 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a mind flayer, on T:3878 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2933 points, T:2764, killed by a rothe 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 15 points, T:62, killed by a jackal 09:59 !setmintc 1000 09:59 Luxidream: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for luxidream set to 1000 10:00 -!- testi_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3203 points, T:5755, killed by a soldier ant 10:01 rofl... i may have just inadvertently added yet another 'variant' to junethack 10:01 363-hdf vs 3.6.2 official release on NAO 10:01 and you can play 3.6.1 there too still 10:01 bhaak ^ 10:02 errrrmahgerd bhaak what to do 10:02 as far asa I 10:02 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 10:02 just hack a version=3.6.2 into the xlog 10:02 as far as I'm concerned that's all 3.6 10:02 stennowork um no hah 10:02 bhaak cool 10:02 was hoping you'd say that 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 1174 points, T:1428, quit 10:05 Amy has mentioned some DNHslex that isn't quite so crazy, but I couldn't see it on hardfought. Am I just blind? 10:06 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 153 points, T:519, zombified by a kobold zombie 10:10 it's on em.slashem.me 10:10 anyone know what 'you feel rock solid' means in slex? 10:10 bhaak, ah, but that's yet another server. 10:10 you younglings and your multi variant servers! 10:10 hehe 10:11 when I was young, you had to build your own server in your room and it only had space for one variant! 10:11 lol, how old are you? 10:11 bhaak: you're aware that evilhack will have about the same number/type of achievements as unnethack right? 10:12 K2: yes 10:13 and there's e-word conduct tracking too 10:13 Hm, I guess feeling rock solid means petrification resistance in slex? 10:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 7357 points, T:6908, quit 10:29 anyone know what terrible things can happen to me on a slex throne? 10:30 hm, I think I take a nap. :) 10:36 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 282 points, T:643, killed by a sewer rat 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2981 10:41 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 12082 points, T:4466, quit 10:44 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:44 if I convert a boulder to flesh, will my pet dog steal/eat it? 10:44 yes 10:44 damn 10:44 why is that bad? 10:45 oh, you want to eat it? 10:45 ya 10:45 convert a pile of rocks to meat balls and 'park' your pet on them 10:45 it'll be busy eating them one by one 10:45 or you push the boulder into a corridor and have the pet behind you, if that's possible 10:46 I'm off for a nap now, good luck! :) 10:46 corridor sounds like a good idea 10:46 kk - gn 10:46 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 107 points, T:559, killed by a bear trap 10:53 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1470 points, T:4303, killed by a soldier ant 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 262 points, T:1630, killed by a bat 11:08 K2: still 13 short 11:09 evilhack is missing 13? or its just 13 less than unnethack 11:09 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 11:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 11:09 less than unnethack 11:10 NOOOO 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 327 points, T:205, killed by a gemstone dwarvish spear 11:13 bhaak: i'll have to wait and see what all might still be missing once you update the junethack website 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh4] moxana (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 47560 points, T:10229, killed by an air elemental 11:15 13 short? 11:15 just add an achievement for starting the game with every role 11:15 :p 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] moxana (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:8, killed by an electric shock 11:15 hah 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Pri Hob Fem Law), 94 points, T:350, killed by a small mimic 11:22 oh, I missed croesus there 11:23 but I also added a wrong one. you don't have an Aphrodite :-) 11:23 i suppose I need to add something for getting an oracle consultation 11:23 heh 11:24 evil has new bosses right? 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 254 points, T:952, killed by a sewer rat 11:27 Luxidream no 11:28 aw 11:28 i have plans for a couple new optional branch quests 11:28 but not until after this years junethack 11:29 <@Shin Umbygashima> !ping 11:29 @Shin Umbygashima: Pong! 11:29 <@Shin Umbygashima> @mtf 11:30 ooh 11:30 achievement for learning elbereth 11:30 thats interesting 11:32 yani: change elbereth to a random inscription each game 11:32 * bhaak takes notes 11:32 somebody kick bug_sniper 11:32 * K2 kicks bug_sniper 11:32 ow 11:32 make it procedurally generated 11:32 i stubbed my big toe 11:32 like crawl scroll labels 11:33 so that it can occasionally be something funny 11:33 Elbergofukyourself 11:33 * bug_sniper removes the robe to reveal a torso made of rocks 11:33 omghaxereth 11:33 Crawl has had amazing things like 11:33 216675 | Pan | Noticed Not Gay the pandemonium lord 216680 | Pan | Defeated Not Gay the pandemonium lord 11:34 [hdf-us] [un] Asriel (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:13386 11:34 yeah, that's a funny name 11:34 or the fan favorite, Elbhaakereth 11:35 I guess they're like that in the endgame too once you have the orb of zot 11:39 hey 11:39 Hello Luxidream, Welcome to #hardfought 11:39 why does evilhack have downstairs and upstairs in the same room 11:40 that's illegal 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 258 points, T:1690, killed by a small mimic 11:41 K2: can illithid shopkeepers not talk...? 11:41 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 42534 points, T:4270, killed by a bolt of lightning, while sleeping 11:42 no 11:42 MS_HISS 11:42 but they will nod at you 11:42 Luxidream: i'd like to resolve the up/down stairs in same room bit 11:42 they're also racist af 11:42 but its not breaking anything so its been a lower priority 11:43 yes thats true 11:44 racist shopkeepers suck 11:44 firstly because they are racist, secondly because it makes for nasty price-id game 11:45 pros: that frost giant shk is really weak to fire 11:45 ;) 11:45 oof 11:46 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/580783517261234216/unknown.png 11:46 K2 how did you break this 11:46 i didnt 11:46 what are you claiming is broken 11:47 the 2 staircases 1 room thing 11:48 i'm not sure how that happened 11:48 maybe it's these fancy new room shapes 11:48 i brought in the cool random vault generation code from unnethack 11:48 <@Tone> ha, nice 11:48 and now we get up/down stairs same room 11:49 i need to look at that again 11:49 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:67423 11:49 maybe bhaak could have a look too, would prob see something i missed 11:51 <@Shin Umbygashima> lul 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Luxidream (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 1375 points, T:2670, quit 11:52 quitter 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] Koret (plugh52) (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 19432 points, T:906, killed by a water moccasin 11:55 but where is the problem? 11:55 with up/downstairs in the same room 11:55 its odd 11:55 technically its not a problem as it works 12:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:01 src/mkroom.c may hold the answer 12:02 <@mtf> hmph these past few days it's been screwing up at the same time.. need to look at the logs again, I'll do that later today 12:02 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:04 <@mtf> !ping 12:04 @mtf: Pong! 12:04 <@mtf> ๐Ÿ‘ 12:04 <@IceBox> hi 12:04 Hello @IceBox, Welcome to #hardfought 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh4] Holath (plugh52) (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 29052 points, T:1474, killed by a straw golem 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 13 points, T:104, killed by a falling rock 12:21 dammit 12:21 code between evilhack and unnethack is virtually identical in both mklev.c and mkroom.c 12:22 must grep 12:22 meld is useful for grep/merging 12:22 or diffing 12:26 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) defeated the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68634 12:29 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:68658 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh4] moxana (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 32810 points, T:2634, killed by a sewer rat 12:35 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> !rng zen fdl ath pnl wpl ext 12:35 @Boens the Bugle Bard: pnl 12:37 <@Shin Umbygashima> !ping 12:37 @Shin Umbygashima: Pong! 12:37 <@Shin Umbygashima> @mtf 12:37 <@Shin Umbygashima> Didn't even last 20-30 minutes this time 12:37 <@Tone> Wow 12:45 <@IceBox> new record! 12:45 [hdf-us] [un] Asriel (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed master key of thievery", on T:15907 12:46 <@IceBox> seems like a really crappy issue to troubleshoot cuz the bot isn't crashing, it's just crapping out on one of the directions 12:46 <@IceBox> but it gives us a good opportunity to feel temporarily superior to all the irc folks: 12:47 <@IceBox> if everyone in irc is a big doo-doo head please confirm by saying nothing 12:47 <@IceBox> got'em 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] 3m3hm3t (Kni Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5252 12:49 poo 12:50 no swearing pls 12:53 <@Shin Umbygashima> lul 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14348 12:59 <@mtf> Ffs your kidding me 12:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> would that I were, it'd be a sick prank 12:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> :opieop: 13:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 119 points, T:641, killed by a sewer rat 13:01 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 504 points, T:1794, killed by a giant ant 13:01 got trapped by a wererat - he was regen'ing so fast I couldn't kill him as a healer 13:01 <@mtf> Coming back up... 13:02 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:04 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:05 <@Shin Umbygashima> ๐Ÿ‡ซ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡น :GWqlabsRIP: 13:05 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:06 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:07 i cant figure out why up and down stairs are spawning in same room 13:07 this makes me sad 13:08 is there just one OROOM? perhaps the others are specials 13:09 the code i brought in is right from unnethack 13:09 i think it's what you wrote paxed 13:10 other than formatting, its the same code 13:10 src/mklev.c is where i want to look right? or is there another file(s) i should be looking also 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 6158 points, T:4104, killed by a chameleon imitating a rock troll 13:15 brb 13:15 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 13:15 !who 13:15 StatueSurfer: [hdf-us] samiam [nh363] mcsnuffy [nh363] Karnac [nh363] StatueSurfer [nh363] autolycus [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] aa [nh363] RedArrow [nh363] plugh52 [nh4] BigolPHD [xnh] hothraxxa [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 13:15 so we've moved on to 363 already? 13:16 <@Shin Umbygashima> :Jebaited: 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 487 points, T:1631, killed by a hobgoblin 13:19 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 13:19 yes 13:20 <@Shin Umbygashima> Beta testing I assume? 13:20 well 13:20 we had 3.6.2 all the time too before it was released 13:20 as 3.6.2 is out now, we are now on 3.6.3 13:20 <@Shin Umbygashima> Makes sense 13:21 fuck this imma go home 13:21 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:21 lol 13:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> Be safe 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:8373 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5057 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 11014 points, T:5058, killed by a vampire, while praying 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] autolycus (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 5013 points, T:7288, killed by a mumak 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Bar Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3356 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:10537 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3656 13:40 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 530 points, T:688, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:13741 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:14654 13:47 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:49 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 13:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 724 points, T:1019, killed by a giant bat 13:54 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> !rng zen fdl ath pnl wpl ext 13:54 @Boens the Bugle Bard: ath 13:55 !rng 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13:55 K2: 1 13:55 \o/ 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17308 13:57 <@IceBox> whoa 363 hype! 13:57 <@IceBox> didn't even realize 13:58 hold on WHAT 13:58 <@IceBox> anything notable in there yet? 13:58 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:58 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:58 just bug fixes against the official 3.6.2 build 13:58 oki 13:58 nothing new then :P 13:58 but yeah patchlevel.h shows 3.6.3 13:59 not even beta 13:59 but 'work-in-progress' 13:59 <@IceBox> exciting, living life on the bleeding edge 13:59 hell. yeah. 13:59 <@IceBox> does it auto update somehow K2 or you're just johnny-on-the-spot? 13:59 so in other words, the status quo 13:59 you can call me john 14:00 bleeding edge is just another word for dev current build? 14:01 sure 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "uncursed greased magic marker", on T:18317 14:02 -!- antigulp has joined #hardfought 14:02 ssssh! 14:02 antigulp just joined... 14:03 uh oh 14:03 :P 14:03 time to check the logs 14:03 heh 14:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> :GWmythiMonkaT: 14:03 guess what 14:03 3.6.3 14:03 what 14:04 <@Shin Umbygashima> no 14:04 <@Shin Umbygashima> it's 14:04 <@Shin Umbygashima> !who 14:04 @Shin Umbygashima: 14:04 3.6.3 Hype! 14:04 <@Shin Umbygashima> ...come on, work with me here 14:04 weird 14:04 !who 14:04 K2: [hdf-us] samiam [nh363] Karnac [nh363] every [nh363] mcsnuffy [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] zor [evil] plugh52 [nh4] | [hdf-eu] Guthix [nh363] OmNyomNyom [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:05 antigulp you're good at this, maybe you can help me 14:05 i cant figure out why evilhack keeps creating rooms where the up and down stairs are in the same room 14:05 its not every level either, just random 14:05 Hmmmm. 14:06 i've poured over mklev.c and mkroom.c 14:06 (I pulled the random vault code from unnethack) 14:06 other than formatting, they virtually match 14:06 what did you pour over it? concrete? :-) 14:06 blood sweat and tears 14:06 right 14:06 mostly tears of frustration and shame 14:07 and awesomeness 14:07 Wasn't that a thing that could happen in 3.4.3? Or am I misremembering? 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:21914 14:07 i dont remember 3.4.3 being that way 14:07 I've never seen it in 3.4.3 and I played 3.4.3 for all of its lifetime and beyond 14:08 if there seems to be an extra staircase in a room it's always a mimic 14:08 <@Shin Umbygashima> Usually, yeah 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:23823 14:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:10 You didn't touch any of the include files, did you? 14:10 I doubt there would be a flag there, but it's good to check. 14:12 ppl i will do it 14:12 webgl + nodehack = 3D nethack 14:12 ooh 14:13 just because i CAN 14:13 its probably not playable much lol 14:13 added to include 14:13 didnt take away or alter existing 14:14 none of those flags should have affected stair placement, as it happens in normal rooms as well as the specially generated vault rooms 14:16 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 14:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:17 <@Shin Umbygashima> I always pondered an animated 3D nethack 14:17 <@Shin Umbygashima> Mostly because I have fun picturing the silly animations you could include 14:18 First person nethack would be terrifying 14:19 <@Shin Umbygashima> first person wut 14:19 <@Shin Umbygashima> no 14:19 <@Shin Umbygashima> that's baked af 14:19 I'm just imagining it. In practice, it would be awful 14:20 <@Shin Umbygashima> first person definitely would be awful 14:20 Do LARP Nethack. ;P 14:20 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:20 <@Shin Umbygashima> for 3D I just like imagining certain kill animations 14:20 <@Shin Umbygashima> or like high-roll animations 14:21 <@Shin Umbygashima> big wind-up knockout punches for bare hands, that sorta stuff 14:21 once upon a time some 15+ years ago I was waiting for someone in front of the central statin. I remember having played too much nethack and comparing the tiles to Nethack squares. :) 14:21 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 14:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 14:21 <@Shin Umbygashima> lul tetris effect 14:21 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:22 <@IceBox> didnt vulture or NotEye or something start as a mod for nethack? 14:22 oh yes, I mentally sorted cars too after playing too much tetris. :) 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:26013 14:22 falcon's eye -> vulture, yes. 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26020 14:22 <@Shin Umbygashima> also imagining 3d nethack is fun because I occasionally imagine defeated foes flying off the screen SMOdyssey style 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2837 points, T:4774, poisoned by a killer bee 14:22 <@Shin Umbygashima> if they don't leave a corpse 14:22 <@Shin Umbygashima> ouch 14:23 I don't know what SMOdyssey is. 14:23 brb, coffee should be done. 14:23 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> imagine the animation for slashing around a cockatrice corpse and stuff turning to stone 14:24 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> all in favor of its corpse depicted as a yellow rubber chicken, yes? 14:25 well, if you want 3D, then at least make it top-down, like Alien Swarm. I get sick from first/third person (horizontal view with movable directions) 14:25 <@Shin Umbygashima> Yeah ofc 14:25 <@Shin Umbygashima> top down is sensible 14:25 <@Shin Umbygashima> @Mickmane https://youtu.be/Ux2HR3ztaOA?t=84 14:25 Nethack in Alien swarm style, with team, could be fun 14:26 I hpe that's not annoying sounds. 14:26 <@Shin Umbygashima> too many of them were super zoomed in 14:26 <@Shin Umbygashima> but yeah just that one bit specifically 14:26 <@Shin Umbygashima> as a visual example 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased spellbook of polymorph", on T:27117 14:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> just drop stuff and fly off screen mario style 14:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> always kills me for some reason 14:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> if leprechaun you could even add a Sonic-style coin dropping bit 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 276 points, T:626, killed by a gnome 14:30 Hm, couuld have said that it's some jump and run 3d animations death scenes. 14:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> oh right, didn't think to 14:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> my apologies 14:32 hey, I could have just closed it, too :) 14:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> P: 14:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> really just wanted to point to the one at the given time stamp as an example 14:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> long as you got an idea of what it looked like 14:33 ah, what I got first was an advertisement. 14:33 <@Shin Umbygashima> rather, what I would want it to look like 14:33 <@Shin Umbygashima> lul ofc 14:33 <@Shin Umbygashima> Youtube pls 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1282 points, T:2494, killed by a watch captain, while sleeping 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] 3m3hm3t (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:6780 14:35 <@Shin Umbygashima> speaking of death animations, so much room for creativity there 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:29143 14:40 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:43 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] 3m3hm3t (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1422 points, T:6839, killed by a scroll of earth 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:29664 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:29665 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:29666 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:29668 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 770 points, T:2653, killed by a hill orc 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:29904 14:48 -!- antigulp has left #hardfought 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 567 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30413 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:30555 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 176 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30704 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:30874 14:53 <@Shin Umbygashima> Go go go! 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 63 points, T:243, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 7 points, T:19, killed by a water moccasin 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31269 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31270 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3021 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] StatueSurfer (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8165 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:59111 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32128 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32131 15:00 I was wondering why he was playing on NAO - he isn't, I had the chat windows in the opposite order to normal. :) 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:32232 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:32332 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:32335 15:03 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:59287 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2478 points, T:3652, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "3 cursed potions of gain level", on T:33021 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:33451 15:07 !who 15:07 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] 3m3hm3t [nh363] Grouchy [nh363] SkydiveMike [nh363] eraserhead97 [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] mcsnuffy [nh363] | [hdf-eu] OmNyomNyom [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:08 does glob of gray ooze ever go stale? 15:08 <@Shin Umbygashima> If you mean tainted then yeah 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:34147 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:34148 15:08 thx 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2439 points, T:3355, quit 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] 3m3hm3t (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 826 points, T:2193, killed by a gnome king 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:34403 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed helm of opposite alignment", on T:34435 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:34438 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Law), 408689 points, T:34438, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1558545089.nh.txt 15:12 congratulations Luxidream! 15:12 thanks 15:13 I watched with one eye, but you play so fast. :) 15:13 1st 3.6.3 asc 15:14 cool! 15:16 Karnac is a real player? For some reason, it sounds like a NPC to me 8^P 15:16 he 15:17 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> !rng arc rog wiz 15:17 @Boens the Bugle Bard: rog 15:17 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:17 yeah it was a pretty fast run 15:18 just under two hours it looks like 15:21 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:23 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 216 points, T:1126, killed by a black pudding 15:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 67 points, T:369, killed by a black pudding 15:29 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 15:31 youtube has changed their layout again 15:31 normally this isn't notable because that happens like every 2 months 15:31 but this time Deluminate breaks completely on it 15:31 I am not amused 15:32 what's deluminate? 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:74145 15:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:33 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:33 <@luxidream> seems fine to me...? 15:34 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/580840826704363546/unknown.png 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 958 points, T:3121, poisoned by an orcish arrow 15:37 <@IceBox> what are those colors? like colorblind mode @luxidream? 15:37 <@luxidream> it's just a program that inverts the background 15:37 <@luxidream> so dark mode, for places that don't have dark mode 15:37 <@IceBox> TIL the inverse of red is pink? 15:39 Light red is pink. 15:39 It's not doing a photographic negative. 15:39 It's inverting the brightness or gamma or something. 15:42 Also, I prefer my color settings: https://imgur.com/a/8ENwDAg 15:43 wtf - meat ring - nh has a twisted sense of humor 8^P 15:43 Well, there are rings that are made of stone. 15:43 eraserhead97, someone did stone to flesh on a stone ring 15:43 So they needed a ring made of meat, because ... ^ that. 15:44 ya - I needed food so I casted that spell - got the giant hunk of meat and a meat ring 15:44 Something similar can happen if you stone-to-flesh e.g. a marble wand. 15:44 Ah, maybe there was a stone ring under the boulder. 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Sorcerer (Pri Gia Mal Cha), 90 points, T:374, zombified by a kobold zombie 15:49 hmm... ...according to the wiki, looks like nearly any type of ring can be converted into a meat ring 15:50 so the stone in stone-to-flesh, in this context, has a broader meaning to include minerals or gemstones too 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10117 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 634 points, T:2212, killed by a coyote 15:55 the stairs thing with evilhack 15:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:55 i think its just with branch stairs 15:57 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> meat ring 15:58 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> more like steel ring with a small meatball on top 15:58 <@luxidream> K2: it's not just branch stairs 15:58 noo, in Nethack, the rings are completely out of whatever stone is mentioned. 15:58 <@luxidream> is a DL 1 a branch stair? 15:58 yes of course 15:59 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> is an engagement ring made out of engagement then? 15:59 yup 16:00 brb 16:01 it goes to the surface branch 16:02 i think i found it 16:02 ... 16:02 bwahah 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 17595 points, T:11375, killed by a winter wolf cub 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law), 943 points, T:1437, killed by a water moccasin 16:04 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:13 Mickmane: chromium add-on that "inverts" colors 16:13 ah 16:13 it's not exactly inversion, because hues stay the same 16:13 I use 2 of two darkmodes for chrome, in vivaldi 16:13 it tries to be smart with inversion of images 16:13 but it doesn't always work 16:13 like new youtube UI for example 16:13 makes sense 16:14 I didn't see any difference there 16:14 there's 3 modes, invert nothing, invert everything or invert smart 16:14 previously, invert smart did exactly what I wanted -- it inverted the youtube logo and the bars in youtube videos 16:15 now it doesn't 16:15 oh 16:15 maybe there's another addon that does what you want? 16:15 but *does* invert related videos and similar 16:15 chromium is some other browser based on chrome? 16:15 basically it's fucked up 16:15 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:15 ugh, that seems like, opposite of what it should do 16:15 and "keep everything normal" makes the youtube logo unreadable (minor), but also makes the media buttons unreadable (awkward) 16:16 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 16:16 (invert everything is obviously unfeasible since I'd rather not watch videos inverted) 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:3106 16:16 hehe, yeah 16:17 Mickmane | I use 2 of two darkmodes for chrome, in vivaldi 16:17 what do you use 16:17 oh, eh, let me find the links? :) 16:17 in my experience, deluminate is by far the best alternative I've seen of th e ones I tried 16:17 it's not perfect, that'd require AI 16:17 but it works far better than most others 16:18 Until I know where to find the links, here's the text I have in extensions menu: 16:19 "Dark Mode 16:19 A global dark theme for the web" 16:19 "Dark Reader 16:19 Dark mode for every website. Take care of your eyes, use dark theme for night and daily browsing." 16:19 i thought that was going to say "A global dark theme for these dark times" 16:19 the latter lets you configure for every page what you want. 16:19 lol 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 676 points, T:2404, killed by a black pudding 16:20 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:20 oh,first one can also be set for just specific sites, but nto from a comfortable menu button in the main browser interface 16:21 https://mybrowseraddon.com/dark-mode.html 16:21 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dark-reader/eimadpbcbfnmbkopoojfekhnkhdbieeh 16:21 FIQ, there, found the links :)= 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6878 points, T:5347, quit 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:75307 16:24 i like doing alchemy in nethack 16:24 ooh, alchemy! totally forgot that feature! 16:25 oh, back to wondering what a slex throne might do to me 16:26 it can strip of an instrinic or unrestrict a skill of your choice 16:26 oh, sounds ok. :) 16:27 what if the intrinsic comes from a cloak, or is that then an extrinsic? 16:27 that's an extrinsic 16:27 thanks! 16:28 youtube is being dumb... 16:28 now it looks like it used to 16:28 experimental new design I guess? w/e 16:28 i think youtube being dumb is more of a constant state of affairs 16:29 you're not wrong 16:29 Mickmane: this is how Deluminate deals with youtube fwiw (youtube as it looked like before): http://home.fiq.se/youtube_deluminated.png 16:30 looks similar to my own dark mode (the first) that I use most often 16:30 whenever I tried other add-ons, they either didn't recolor things correctly, failed to recolor some elements, had things like black on black/white on white, or in one case recolored too much 16:31 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 16:31 oh and one just applied a forced CSS theme on every site... I guess it does let you read things, but at the expense of ruined site layouts 16:31 this is the approach jonadab takes I believe 16:31 there are two pages where one or the other doesn't work for me, Steam, and Steamcardexchangenet (website for a bot for trading cards). 16:31 for Steam I just turned it off locally 16:31 since it's already bright on dark as-is 16:32 yeah, that works for me for both sites; just turning it off 16:32 summer sale soon, from what I know, I should tend all my booster packs and trade with bot again, aaaaaah 16:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> This Dark Reader? 16:32 @Shin I use Deluminate, Mickmane uses Dark Reader 16:32 who is the question to? 16:33 to make every site have a "night mode"/etc 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:75596 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:75601 16:34 they're chrome add-ons 16:34 chromium is also a browser based on chrome? 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:75609 16:35 yes, it's chrome with some google stuff removed I think 16:35 oh, sounds nice 16:35 not really sure... they're the same for all intentions and purposes for me 16:35 that reminds me 16:35 Vivaldi is supposed to be all about customization, but I haven't really noticed that, I just got so fed up with firefox, I looked at what a friend suggested and liked it better 16:36 yesterday I decided to fire up a unity successor to a p2w flash game I played back in 2013 16:36 it caused the browser to use 100% cpu 16:36 hooray webunity on linux 16:36 wow 16:36 caused massive lag too 16:36 and yes 16:36 I blame unity over the game 16:36 FIQ: I just instruct my browser to completely ignore page-specified colors, including backgrounds. 16:36 @luxidream, so far every test/scenario i've ran, the 2 stairs in same room, one is always a branch stair 16:37 perhaps it was the game, but the flash version of it had no perf issues at all (in fact it performed well enough to be playable on the phone I used to have back then) 16:37 jonadab, I tried that with firefox, it got messy. 16:37 Haven't tried it with recent Firefox. Works just fine with Seamonkey. 16:38 Used to work fine with Firefox back when Firefox was reasonable. 16:38 not heard of that 16:38 jonadab: did you watch my youtube link 16:38 jonadab, yes, that's true 16:38 it got ever more weird, though 16:38 maybe you don't visit youtube but that isn't really the point of the screenshot 16:38 FIQ: I did not. 16:38 paxed: we need a ctrl- key assignment for #wizmakemap please 16:38 but rather, the point is that you can get light on dark without utterly compromising site layout like you do 16:38 I mean, I looked at the screenshot.l 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:75703 16:39 I don't just want light on dark. I specifically want low contrast. Preferably #FFE6BC on #294D4A. 16:39 I don't want my eyes to get tired after a few hours of looking at the screen. 16:40 I still think that websites thinking to decide what colour -I- should see on my computer is riduculous, but I seem to be fairly alone with that. 16:40 I get a headache from bright backgrounds. 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:75751 16:40 Mickmane: No, that is my position exactly. 16:41 It is none of the website's business what colors I have on my screen. 16:41 cool! 16:41 but apart from the people here, I have nto met anyone agreeing with that. 16:41 I don't, but I think my reasoning stems mostly from history 16:41 i.e. I'm used to it being that way, so it is 16:42 the alternative has simply never been there for me 16:42 which is the alternative for you?` 16:42 I never got used to it being that way. I've been disabling page colors since the days of Navigator 4.08. 16:42 mmm 16:42 nav 4.08 16:42 Mickmane: being unable to choose the visitor's colors 16:42 I mean, it's the same with programs 16:42 K2: Not the first browser I used, just the first one I customized. 16:42 you (usually) don't choose what colors a program uses on Windows 16:42 programs are different though 16:42 and that's where most people's mindsets are 16:42 First browser I used was of course NCSA Mosaic. 16:43 Well, first _web_ browser. 16:43 well, I use custom colours since windoze 3.11, and whatever browser I used whenever I did use internet somewhere. 16:43 I used usenet and gopher before I used the web. 16:43 Mickmane: I used custom colors in DOS. 16:43 Although that was pretty limited. 16:43 nice! I had some 4DOS settings, but don't remember details. 16:43 Back then you only had 16 colors to work with total. 16:43 And some of them were not great. 16:44 mind, I used DOS and OS/2 until 2009 16:44 jonadab: same. But that project eventually became netscape (firefox) no? 16:44 rebatela: Which project? 16:44 mosaic 16:44 maybe i'm thinking of something else 16:44 I think Netscape _cloned_ Mosaic. 16:44 ah ok 16:44 I could be wrong, but that was my impression. 16:45 jonadab: netscape nav was my first ever browser 16:45 used it for mail too 16:45 Ugh. 16:45 Netscape Mail was terrible. 16:45 no ugh 16:45 I don't know what gopher is, but I had access to a Fidonet/Usenet gateway (welll, still do, but these days I access it from the internet side, which I didn't have access to before the move 2009) 16:45 Pegasus Mail forever. 16:45 i was new to the webz 16:45 isp said here use this 16:45 ahhh gopher. i remember that! menus 16:45 why would i argue? 16:46 I mean, I'd probably still be using Pegasus Mail if it were cross platform. Sadly it wasn't, so I made myself learn Gnus when I switched to Linux. 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4923 16:48 its just the nostalgia 16:48 I'm still using XP (no, not windoze, it's a fidonet point program), since early 90s. 16:48 netscape 16:48 quakeworlsd 16:48 newer versions thoguh, this one works on windoze 16:48 *quakeworld 16:48 usernet 16:49 no confusing icons. Text only! 16:49 chessmasteronline 16:49 making my first website using hotdog... lol 16:49 boo, the throne vanished 16:50 !who 16:50 K2: [hdf-us] Grouchy [nh363] aa [nh363] StatueSurfer [nh363] cadaver [nh363] SkydiveMike [nh363] Lachtain [spl] | [hdf-eu] AlbertB [nh363] Mickmane [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:56 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:57 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:59 does sustain ability prevent me from improving my skills? 16:59 no 16:59 eh, stats, I mean, sorry 17:00 yes 17:00 thanks 17:07 <@IceBox> i was gonna say, i thought it did prevent it. I knew what you meant to ask but didn't see the typo 17:07 <@IceBox> stennobot parsed it correctly though ๐Ÿ˜‰ 17:07 yeah :) 17:09 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 17:10 I have a new n pet, I want it to use my old cloak of protection, silly girl isn't interested it seems 17:10 what weapon could I give an n? (slex) 17:10 I like her, she's stoning resistant! 17:10 Mickmane: gopher and usenet both had images. 17:10 Although gopher often linked to ftp for that. 17:11 Depending on what the site was trying to accomplish. 17:11 jonadab, my usenet client had no images. 17:11 Mickmane: They didn't display inline, but they were attached. 17:11 And you opened them in a separate viewer. 17:11 well, my fidonet program, which I used for fidonet/usenet gateway 17:11 Though, some newsgroups didn't allow binaries. 17:11 I think for a while file attachments didn't go through the gateway 17:11 <@luxidream> I don't think nymphs have a weapon attack 17:11 Mickmane: Oh, that's possible. 17:12 ?le@nymph 17:12 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> afaik they got the steal attack and thats all 17:12 @le?nymph 17:12 nymph (n) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: special | AC: 9 | Attacks: 0d0 weapon seduce, 0d0 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, teleports, nopoly, infravisible 17:12 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> yep 17:12 5d3, uses weapon - weight increase 17:12 claw (punch, hit, etc.) - seduces and steals multiple items 17:12 says the game 17:13 <@luxidream> well there are a million different nymphs in slex 17:13 Beholder also doesn't mention other good stuff, and difficulty is 11 17:13 <@luxidream> I believe it 17:13 yup 17:13 Base statistics of this monster type: 17:13 Base level = 9, difficulty = 11, AC = 5, magic resistance = 40, alignment 0. 17:13 Fast (13). Normal generation, with frequency 1. Uncommon (by factor 2). Resists 17:13 petrification, hits as a +1 weapon. Conveys petrification resistance. Not 17:13 genocidable, teleporting swimmer. This monster is always female. Can be seen 17:13 with infravision. Is a valid polymorph form. 17:13 @4k?island nymph 17:13 island nymph (n) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 60 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Attacks: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, swims, regenerates, seeinvis, teleports, infravisible 17:13 does this monster type have a name Mick 17:13 yes, 'nymph', sigh 17:14 thus my command only included that 17:14 base level 9 17:14 I want her to wear my old CoP! 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:7886 17:22 btw, my n wielded a mace now that it picked up from the floor 17:22 nymphs don't wield weapons 17:23 this one does 17:23 slex 17:23 ah 17:23 Sober Thief picks up a mace {12}. Sober Thief wields a mace {12}! 17:24 sober, because she's not stoned, because petrification resistant 17:24 that's mainly why I want to keep her 17:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> "Wait, that doesn't quite---" 17:24 plus, the steal attack 17:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> "Hold on, is it SLEX?" 17:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> "It's SLEX." 17:24 yup 17:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh." 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2659 points, T:4024, killed by a bolt of cold 17:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> SLEX has a lot of super neat idea but also a lot of questionable if not outright bad ones 17:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> RIP Luxi 17:25 I've been bumbling through this colourful dungeon for what, a week now? 17:25 and yes, you're right there, Shin. 17:25 <@Shin Umbygashima> Makes the good stuff hard to appreciate 17:25 yeah, I'm just leading this char to whatever end he'll meet. 17:26 slex's main problem is that balance was just thrown out the window 17:27 I'm just concerned with fun, not balance. 17:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> And when you have neither balance nor fun 17:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> :FeelsBlobMan: 17:27 you're playing the wrong game, I'd say. :) 17:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> And I know fun isn't objective but there's difficulty fetishes and then... 17:28 <@IceBox> did you ascend that previous wiz from today luxi? 17:29 <@Shin Umbygashima> Oh yeah, you were pretty far with a character recently 17:29 <@Shin Umbygashima> What happened with that 17:30 it's hard for me to have fun when i already know there's no chance for victory 17:30 <@IceBox> @luxidream status update on that previous wiz from earlier today, the one that got through the quest. We must know 17:30 slex is not unwinnable 17:30 <@luxidream> which one 17:31 <@IceBox> haha i dunno probably the one right before that wand of cold splat 17:31 <@luxidream> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1558545089.nh.txt 17:31 <@luxidream> this one? 17:32 strictly speaking slex is not unwinnable 17:32 the two winners have been: the developer, and the best nethacker of all-time 17:33 <@IceBox> yeah that's probably it 17:33 <@IceBox> ...how many wiz runs have you had today 17:34 <@luxidream> some 17:34 <@luxidream> a few splays 17:35 <@Shin Umbygashima> GG Luxi! 17:36 <@Shin Umbygashima> Also hasn't SLEX been ascended or near-ascended only to result in updates that further complicate future attempts? 17:36 <@Shin Umbygashima> Or am I thinking of something else 17:36 idk what amy does after somebody wins 17:36 or rather after Tariru wins 17:36 <@IceBox> didn't tariru get the first/only asc? 17:37 amy's ascended 17:37 on the first game 17:37 and Tariru's on a streak 17:37 tariru has 3/3 17:37 <@IceBox> does amy count? #devMagic 17:37 BS 17:37 100% asc ratio 17:37 no way tariru ascended his first slex game 17:37 i don't believe that 17:38 if that's true then he's basically the Neo Anderson of nethack 17:38 ah sorry, not 3/3 17:38 4/4 17:38 https://scoreboard.xd.cm/players/T/Tariru.slx.html 17:38 <@luxidream> anyone seen the guy? 17:38 i knew it was a 4 game streak 17:38 unfortunately not 17:38 <@luxidream> is he coming back for junethack? 17:38 hopefuly 17:38 still calling BS on him ascending his first slex game 17:38 maybe his first one on hardfought 17:39 yawn 17:39 <@luxidream> I believe it 17:39 <@luxidream> took him like a month 17:39 i don't think *amy* ascended her first slex game 17:39 amy is not tariru 17:39 did you know that tariru is japanese for 'it suffices' 17:40 no 17:40 i did not 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 5513 points, T:4674, killed by a white unicorn 17:41 to be sufficient, to be enough, to be worth doing, to be worthy, 17:45 stth ascended grunthack on the first try and it was considered unascendable 17:47 are there translations for nethack? 17:47 there is a german translation and a japanese translation 17:47 Steam friend of me is wondering what to play, but he isn't good at English. German would be perfect. 17:47 do you have a link? 17:47 * stenno pages bhaak regarding the german nethack 17:47 its 3.4.3 though 17:47 can it be played on a public server? 17:48 oh 17:48 er sagt nee 17:48 shame 17:50 I'm hungry, wondering what to eat... so uninspired 17:50 i had a salad and a yoghurt with cherries earlier 17:51 hm, don't have salad or cherries. Not a fan of yoghurt anyway. 17:51 fair 17:51 I think I'll dump some tinned sup into a pot. 17:51 o7 17:52 what kind of soup? 17:52 ochsenschwanzsuppe? 17:52 Huehnereintopf oder Linseneintopf 17:52 von gut und guenstig 17:52 eeh :x 17:52 I like them! 17:52 * stenno doesn't :v 17:52 :D 17:52 that's ok, more for me! :) 17:52 can't argue about taste 17:52 true! 17:53 i'll take the ochsenschwanzsuppe then 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5726 points, T:9669, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1926 18:00 I like that too, but not seen it from gut&guenstig 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 63 points, T:288, fell into a pit 18:01 fair 18:01 schweinegoulasch aus der dose kommt dem nah 18:01 the sauce part is similar, which is what I like 18:02 yeah 18:03 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 949 points, T:1701, killed by a dart 18:07 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 237 points, T:1151, killed by a coyote 18:09 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:19085 18:17 -!- Frederic has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law), 747 points, T:1398, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 18:19 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> my mouth hurts 18:19 ouch, why? 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4100 18:20 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> last tooth is like halfway out and its pushing out of the skin 18:21 wisdom teeth? 18:22 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> last one before those 18:22 hm, too long ago to remember. But hey, when it's over, it's done! :) 18:22 something to look forward to, no? 18:24 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> well, yeah 18:24 what the... 18:24 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> it kinda gave me a break rn, cant feel it 18:24 there was a rolling boulder trap on medusa's 18:24 except the boulder couldn't quite make it across the water 18:25 -!- AlbertB has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:25 lol StatueSurfer 18:25 boens, that's something. :) 18:26 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 18:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:7926 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 4333 points, T:4206, killed by a hill orc 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1374 points, T:3352, killed by a gnome mummy 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 17 points, T:119, killed by a jackal 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1695 points, T:2752, killed by a tower of flame 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 4 points, T:34, killed by a goblin 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:73, killed by a water moccasin 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] StatueSurfer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:20190 18:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 8 points, T:132, burned by molten lava 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:20159 18:42 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 186 points, T:471, killed by a dwarf 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by a black pudding 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 108 points, T:115, killed by a gnome 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh4] hPR2 (yong) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 31981 points, T:5084, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 82 points, T:201, killed by a small mimic 18:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1500 points, T:2979, killed by a hobbit 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 78 points, T:238, killed by a jackal 18:46 !setmintc 300 18:46 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for k2 set to 300 18:47 [hdf-us] [un] Asriel (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:18122 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5860 points, T:6010, killed by a bolt of fire 18:55 "You hit the umber hulk! You feel less confused now." 18:55 always good to have alternate cures 18:55 hehe 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] StatueSurfer (Val Dwa Fem Law), 99520 points, T:20518, killed by a minotaur 18:58 okay i thought i was faster than that minotaur 18:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> You thought a lot of things, clearly 18:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> P: 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3482 19:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5380 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:20790 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:75965 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9887 19:22 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 19:22 evening all 19:23 hiya :) 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:12494 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:13283 19:25 trying nh4 tonight. i won't get the messages here, but i remember it being a little easier than vanilla. 19:26 nh4 is not on hardfought? 19:26 [hdf-us] [un] Asriel (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 cornuthaum", on T:21111 19:27 no, it is...but the last time i played, they said that the announcements weren't working. 19:27 oh 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:15152 19:27 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:76315 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:18752 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:76350 19:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:76366 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 2431469 points, T:76366, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1558281937.nh.txt 19:38 oh6: gratz! 19:38 congratulatios from me, too! 19:38 oh! I missed a max(purpleWorm) ascension! 19:39 thanks eraserhead97, Mickmane! 19:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10817 19:39 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:39 nothing much to see, literally just "nothing happens" when reverse-genociding purple worms 19:39 well, and purple worms everywhere 19:39 hehe 19:40 I've seen revgeno(pworms), but never THAT many ^^ 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1020 points, T:1726, killed by a kitten, while fainted from lack of food 19:40 I've been refining my polypiling strategy and have been doing it more often now 19:41 oh - u pp'ed those scrolls? (didn't write them?) amazing! 19:41 most of them - I wrote a few after taht 19:42 what's your polypile strategy? 19:42 hoo boy 19:42 a) collect a bunch of loot - that hasn't really changed, it's just a little easier now since clairvoyance from donations shows objects now 19:42 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 11799 points, T:6674, killed by a gray unicorn 19:43 I tend to drag everything into a shop, or into a neat pile in a corner near some stairs anyway. 19:44 b) collect a bunch of rocks - read scrolls of earth, and whenever I get a cockatrice corpse, go through all my wands of create monster and then scrolls of create monster (cursed) and stone the resulting monsters 19:44 I generally do this while standing on a scroll of scare monster to minimize risk 19:45 c) cast stone to flesh on all of the rocks, gather up all of the meatballs and curse them 19:45 what's with the rocks? 19:45 <@Shin Umbygashima> Why cursed specifically? 19:45 that's next :) 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] Shadowcat (shadowcat) (Val Hum Fem Law), 44813 points, T:2842, killed by a Woodland-elf 19:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> then do go on 19:46 oh! well, i guess deaths still show up. but I named Sting, and Beholder didn't announce that. 19:46 d) pile up all of the loot, breaking up stacks into single items - (3.6.0 makes this very easy) all on a single square 19:47 e) pile cursed meatballs on top the loot pile, broken up in to stacks of 5 - I usually go for 300, but 200 will do in a pinch 19:48 d) zap polymorph - the cursed meatballs all but guarantee you'll get a flesh golem, which won't eat up anything else in the pile 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:22814 19:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> Oh duh, pet deterrent 19:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> And that 19:48 whoops, f) rather 19:48 do pets mind cursed food? 19:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> d) e) d) 19:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> I mean not much but I figes the "won't step on cursed objects willingly" thing would apply 19:49 repeat steps e and d-I-mean-f until you run out of polyzaps and/or cursed meatnalls 19:49 meatballs 19:50 but if you pile it up into 1 pile, you can zap down, no? 19:50 btw, sounds like a nifty strategy! I put it into a file. :) 19:51 basically, cursed meatballs to not have other loot turn into a golem. 19:51 yes, but I usually have another polypiling thing going in parallel, where I split up *blessed* meatballs with cursed *rocks* on top, to generate cockatrice eggs, tins of spinach, and / or tengu meat, but oh good lord that is tedious 19:52 I prefer to genocide c, but I appreciate the general idea. :) 19:54 yeah, wielding the cockatrice corpse repeatedly to stone monsters is heinously dangerous - have to check every time I didn't hit 'e' instead of 'w' 19:54 <@shadowsapex> I've never had any particularly bad c related problems 19:54 they scare me 19:54 <@shadowsapex> except for that one time I was hallucinating and bare handed one 19:55 it's using them on purpose that's the problem - it's very very easy to get complacent, and then, whoops instapetrify 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh4] Shadowcat (shadowcat) (Val Hum Fem Law), 25773 points, T:1744, killed by a kitten 19:55 shadowcat, does throwing a tin not pacify a kitten? 19:56 in nh4 I mean 19:56 or any food really 19:56 i didnt have a tin, so i couldn't try. i'll have to see in a future game. 19:56 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 288 points, T:407, killed by a gnome 19:57 food ration might tame it, not sure 19:57 but the least you should get with throwing food is peaceful, if I remember right 19:57 a food ration will tame it, and you're right about throwing food at it 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24928 19:58 hah, I'm not completely senile! :) Thanks 19:58 i like to keep a piece of fruit around to throw at dogs and cats if i don't want to tame them 19:58 I tend to keep a tin for that. :) 19:58 and glass for cross-aligned unicorns 19:59 i have no time for your junk 19:59 yup, and off they'll go 19:59 rather than trampling me 20:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] waterbug (Bin Swn Fem Non), 727 points, T:969, killed by an acid blob 20:01 that seems kind of fitting 20:01 water and acid don't go on well in nethack 20:02 really, about the glass and cross aligned unicorns? i didn't know that. 20:02 yeah, at least last I played. :) 20:02 yes that works 20:03 can a frost horn be used as a weapon like a unihorn? 20:03 I think it's more like a wand of cold 20:04 <@Shin Umbygashima> Yeah 20:04 not sure about weapon 20:04 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> its kinda meant to be a WoC 20:04 <@Shin Umbygashima> You apply it and fire a cold ray 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:26398 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:26398 20:04 yes, I know about its normal use - was just wondering if I could wield and hit with it 20:05 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> well, yeah 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:26421 20:05 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> it isnt effective 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:26421 20:05 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> or not 20:05 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> idrk 20:05 ok - ic - unihorn is a separate category (I need to ask because I'm a healer in need of weapons) 20:05 #enhance shows unihorn as a skill 20:06 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> yea, unihorns are an actual weapon 20:07 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> weapon-tool for that matter 20:07 would be cool if any horn would qualify 20:07 eraserhead97: what variant? 20:07 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> like pickaxes 20:07 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> doesnt make that much sense 20:07 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> it works as a tooled horn when out of charges 20:07 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> so its not a literal horn 20:07 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> its an instrumental horn 20:08 don't ruin my perfectly cool idea with facts. 20:08 I knew about that - was just wondering if frost horn could be wielded like a unihorn (like a dwarvish mattock can be used as a pickaxe) - vanilla 20:08 no you cna't. a vanilla healer should pick up and switch to the first dagger you see 20:08 that's not cursed of course 20:08 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> (a dwarvish mattock IS a kind of pickaxe) but yeah, theyre kinda different stuff 20:09 then as soon as possible, get an aklys 20:09 yeah - my daggers still unskilled - need to work it up 20:09 it's a priority 20:10 until 3.6 a healer's best strategy would be train up dagger until you get a unihorn, and hope to get a staff to train with before the quest 20:11 the new 3.6 aklys is a better choice now 20:11 yeah - I suck at healer - it's one of the roles I haven't ascended with yet 20:11 i've ascended some healers 20:11 arc & cav are the other 2 monkeys on my back 20:11 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> tips on runnin em? 20:12 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> (arcs and healers for that matter) 20:12 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> i kinda get stuck in the beginning with those 20:12 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:13 I almost gave up w/so many healer deaths - then I cheated with gnome 20:13 aside from the offense tips i just gave, you should train your pet up asap 20:14 ya - pet + stetho + heal = saved me many times 20:14 i usually try for a protection racket, but if you're not then level up until you can cast stf reliably asap 20:15 basically a protection racket means head down in the mines as soon as you find them. this is high risk of course 20:16 and try to get as few levels as possible until you buy protection from the priest (well, until after you have bought it) 20:16 this means you let your pet do as much of the fighting as possible 20:17 you don't explore the mines, you go down as soon as you find the stairs 20:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:17 hrm. i have 10 silver daggers already 20:24 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> yeah ik, lvl 1 for only 400 on prot yadda yadda 20:25 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> last times i tried those i got killed around the mines :/ 20:26 <@riker> !rng clck hlf hum 20:26 @riker: hlf 20:28 <@Shin Umbygashima> It's fairly difficult, yeah 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:27677 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 arrows on an altar, on T:4050 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28430 20:41 k2: xnethack There are several objects here. placing monster over another at <49,8>? 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:30013 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30014 20:44 hothraxxa: you'll have to email aosdict that one 20:45 shadowcat: nh4 does not have livelogging 20:46 so you'll only get the death/asc messages 20:46 yes but it says to contact you too. i am nothing if not conscientious 20:46 thats for game crashes ;) 20:47 it doesn't say that here. it says alternatively, contact k2 20:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:47 ok 20:47 mission accomplished 20:48 any bugs you notice, either write them down somewhere for when he gets back, or email aosdict@gmail.com 20:48 * hothraxxa feels highly accomplished 20:48 actually, i think this is an old bug that he's well aware of 20:49 hmm 20:49 but it said contact you 20:49 yes we've established that 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:4342 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:31552 20:49 you acknowledged the contact. my part of the social contract has been fulfilled 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] oWZD1 (yong) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 31794 points, T:4289, killed by an Uruk-hai 20:50 \o/ 20:51 i found another bug i think. fudd picked up a box weighing 902 z. he's not supposed to be able to do that 20:52 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:52 maybe this box is mimicking a bag of holding. who knows 20:52 no wait, it's a boh mimicking a box. that must be it 20:53 if I meatball a boulder in soko, will there be a luck penalty? 20:53 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> maybe its an icebox mimic disguised as a box that is not heavy 20:53 I mean without breaking it into pieces 20:53 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> then when you least expect it gets heavy and falls on your foot 20:54 eraserhead97, I think yes, but am waiting for someone with better memory to say something 20:54 eraserhead97: i think so too 20:54 kk thx ^^ 20:55 it's only -1 and it will time out in 600 turns unless you're carrying a luckstone in open inventory. i rarely worry about soko penalties 20:55 good point 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32719 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:32720 20:55 non-blessed luckstone* 20:56 heh. well if he's carrying a cursed luckstone, bad luck to him 20:56 uncursed also is not blessed 20:56 thats weird 20:57 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> cursed ones let only good luck time out 20:58 woo - St:10 - I feel so buff (coming from 7) 20:59 it's blessed prevents good timout, cursed prevents bad, and uncursed prevents both 20:59 +e 21:00 so if you get a soko penalty, put away your luckstone 21:00 hothraxxa, yes, so non-blessed prevents the -1 luck hit to recover, no? 21:00 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> "You're not strong enough to break your wand" 21:00 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> yea 21:00 wimp 21:00 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> but only 600 to 600 turns 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 1080 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32984 21:00 right, 600 turns 21:00 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> i.e. took the hit on lets say 550 21:01 some soko levels take more than that 21:01 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> drop the stone in 599 21:01 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> 600 it ticks off 21:01 oh 21:01 oh 21:01 haha 21:01 yeah you can micro-manage it. have fun 21:01 I'm more for micromanaging pets 21:01 my nymph finally picked up some hat and gloves and put them on 21:02 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> i like pets but also dont 21:02 I'd feel lonely without a zoo 21:02 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> curse testing and stealing is cool 21:02 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> but hauling them and etc is such a hassle 21:02 they are worth it in the early game 21:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:33424 21:03 <@Boens the Bugle Bard> never heard of a pet continuing past mines 21:03 wtf - wraith w/a lightning wand HP:3(55) - one hit 21:03 one of the really annoying things about grunt is that you invariably lose your pet right away 21:04 I can't see him (due to blindness) 21:04 Boens, wouldn't want to go anywhere without one or more. 21:04 !rng move_first pray_first 21:04 eraserhead97: move_first 21:04 ouch eraserhead97 21:04 i've has many pets accompany me onto the planes. only one of them ever survived to astral though. the plane of fire is deadly even for red dragons 21:05 sweet... playing a giant, general store shopkeep is also a giant 21:05 discounts for everyone! 21:05 lol, nice! 21:05 play an orc 21:05 nobody likes orcs 21:05 except other orcs 21:06 yeah - rng appears to be correct, but I'm not out of this yet 8^P 21:06 there are orcish shopkeepers 21:06 i actually have come across one 21:06 yay, n put on the cloak of protection! 21:06 it iddn't want the armor with MR though 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:34433 21:07 *uck - he's still there 21:07 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34464 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:34489 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:34632 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:34634 21:09 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) defeated the high priestess of Moloch, on T:68834 21:09 whew - that was a close one 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 934 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35423 21:12 yay for surviving, eraserhead97 21:13 hehe thx - close ones like that means it's time for a break - gonna go cook some dinner bb in a bit 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed bugle named TONECHAMP", on T:36502 21:15 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 21:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:36506 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:36507 21:16 . 21:16 Chris_ANG: Messages from @riker, {Demo}1, @carlarc, Tangles, and LarienTelrunya have been forwarded to you privately. 21:17 (semester's over) 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:36939 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed helm of opposite alignment", on T:36980 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:36991 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Law), 623262 points, T:36991, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1558565377.nh.txt 21:20 <@Shin Umbygashima> GG 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3418 points, T:5520, killed by a poisonous corpse 21:21 congrats luxidream :) 21:21 don't do that you'll just encourage him 21:21 that's ok :) 21:22 well he most likely won't be in my clan for junethack so no it's not 21:22 <@Shin Umbygashima> RIP 21:22 <@Shin Umbygashima> Why the helm of opposite alignment each time? 21:23 he's speedrunning and that's the fastest astral 21:24 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:69316 21:26 <@luxidream> because I keep finding the wrong altar first? 21:26 it's not like you couldn't make your way to the right altar 21:27 Amy, does sanity make spellcasting more difficult? 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh4] eWD1 (yong) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 34072 points, T:4242, killed by a fire ant 21:31 k2: any chance livelogging might be implemented for nh4? 21:32 you'd have to ask ais523 21:32 he's the variant author 21:32 i seriously doubt it'll happen, we havent pulled a new update in about a year 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4695 21:36 <@riker> welcome back chris! 21:36 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided class ';', on T:69513 21:36 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 21:37 [hdf-us] [evil] toon (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7 points, T:416, zombified by a kobold zombie 21:37 {Demo}2: Re "Enemy in the Void": The Binders are repeating something the Order guards said, they are referring to Sophia (who destroys the world if you hand over the Amulet to her altar at the end of the game). The Binder is loosely based on Gnosticism.. 21:37 hello :) 21:38 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 21:38 <@riker> glad to see you back, now that you're presumably off for the summer? 21:38 does nh4 have the same things vanilla does? like an altar on the shops level? i haven't been able to find one if there is.... 21:38 <@riker> "the shops" you mean minetown? 21:39 yeah. sorry...and i just found it. :) sorry...i'm fairly new to nh4. 21:39 oh snap 21:39 its Chris 21:39 <@riker> no problem 21:39 <@riker> ikr K2 21:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6220 21:39 <@riker> the dev, the myth, the legend 21:39 Yup, turned in my grades @ 5am >_< 21:40 shadowcat: nh4 is basically nethack 3.4.3 on nh4 code 21:40 there's a couple minor differences but its basically 3.4.3 21:40 <@Shin Umbygashima> @luxidream oh, late response but was just asking 21:40 heh Chris_ANG 21:40 <@luxidream> ? 21:40 <@Shin Umbygashima> about the helm thing 21:40 so you ready for junethack? 3.16.1 or whatever release time meow? 21:41 <@Shin Umbygashima> I keep forgetting these are speedruns you're doing 21:41 ... I forgot about Junethack 21:41 <@riker> oh boy yeah chris, you've got like a week 21:41 lol 21:41 <@riker> good luck! 21:41 bhaak: dnethack variant author forgot about your tournament 21:41 SHAME 21:41 * K2 rings a bell 21:42 Well, the current development version has actually been around for a while. I just have to tie off the medusa level variant stuff again >_< 21:42 <@riker> K2: I mean, I'm pretty certain he's forgotten his own variant so I'm not sure if it's really a shame or just like chris being chris 21:42 so... 2021? 21:42 <@riker> nah I'm pretty sure it can be done by 2020... at least by december at least 21:42 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached the Astral Plane, on T:69604 21:42 Chris_ANG: redo dnethack on 3.6.x codebase 21:43 or rebase it on fiqhack 21:43 or make nh5 21:44 <@riker> what's the fh codebase even like? isn't it super compartmentalized + really clean? I recall looking at it once and not even recognizing it 21:44 no, nh6... skip 5 21:45 <@riker> โ™ซ 5 is the loneliest number โ™ซ 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 6534 points, T:8010, killed by an owlbear 21:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> RIP 21:50 * Chris_ANG studies uncommited dnh changes... 21:51 Oh, some of these are probably back-ports from dNAO... 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh4] Shadowcat (shadowcat) (Val Hum Fem Law), 52192 points, T:4419, killed by a troll 21:52 i found out i can set nh4 to explore mode. i'm tempted. 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2734 21:56 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "nx", on T:4017 21:58 okay. i need sleep if i;m going to function tomorrow...which unfortunately, i need to do. damn thing called a job. 21:58 night all! 21:58 sleep well :) 21:59 -!- shadowcat has quit [] 22:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> night 22:01 [hdf-us] [fh] kaikias (anemoi) (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 270506 points, T:69781, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/anemoi/fiqhack/dumplog/2019-05-23%2002%3A00%3A54%2C%20kaikias-Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 22:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] waterbug (Bin Swn Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:6790 22:03 <@carlarc> wow i haven't been here in ages 22:04 <@carlarc> can't believe it took that much for chris to get my messages lmao 22:04 <@riker> chris is a professor iirc so he's gone most of the school year 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 123 points, T:1148, killed by a hobbit, while praying 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7720 22:07 <@Shin Umbygashima> Hi Carl 22:08 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 22:15 Amy, in a shop where the south wall is beyond the level south wall (right on the edge of the map), shopkeeper says to please pay before leaving. 22:15 in the top of the town tower 22:15 <@riker> wow slex has broken map generation huh who'd have thunk 22:16 lol, it's not drastic, just mentioning it 22:16 <@riker> I think I've had that before when a shop generated inside a special room or something like that, so 22:16 hey, stuff that's on that lower line in the shop is not owned by the shopkeeper 22:16 <@riker> might have been a special room that generated as a shop (plus-shaped I think) 22:16 <@riker> yep that happens too 22:17 I had some _- shaped room where I could sell stuff outside :) 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:10474 22:17 <@riker> ah nice 22:18 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:18 only found out after I'd id'd as much as I could with credit from my stolen 500zm item 22:18 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 22:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 22:18 remember kids, shoplifting is wrong, and shopkeepers may murder you over it 22:19 but training your pets to steal stuff and bring it to you... 22:19 not when it's my pet doing it. :) 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:10969 22:29 [hdf-us] [slshm] KaiHerd (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1026 points, T:1125, killed by a gnome lord 22:32 Amy, I accidentally dropped my bag with gold in, shopkeeper now thinks he owns my money 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:15817 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15819 22:34 maybe you should !tell her this stuff since she's not here right now 22:35 -!- moony has quit [Quit: Bye!] 22:35 She has the habit to check logs. 22:35 the name is too long, and lartab doesn't work. 22:35 I don't know how to spell it. 22:36 LarienTelrunya 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:19197 22:43 jonadab, LarienTelrunya: jumpsuits are reflective bc they're supposed to be those silver-space-clothes-things you see from time to time. 22:46 See this page for an instance from the original Lost in Space: http://www.angela-cartwright.com/part5lis.html 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 413 points, T:2645, killed by a gnome lord 22:47 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Car Hum Nbn Neu), 639 points, T:1802, murdered by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 22:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed magic marker", on T:21958 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 3913 points, T:5213, killed by a white unicorn 22:50 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:22713 22:53 phew, got my gold back! 22:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:23270 22:55 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:23594 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 174 points, T:551, killed by a sewer rat 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:24061 22:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:24199 23:01 Chris_ANG: I'm curious - what's the gist of the msgs you've received? mostly bug reports, suggestions, or what? 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:24828 23:03 IMA doesn't store its brightness level. Possibly there is an issue with it reading outside the bounds of the lighting array, though. 23:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:04 Beholder mostly just had your messages, and I haven't made it past the IMA incident in Discord yet XD 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:25362 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:25363 23:05 Chris_ANG: ah I see, whoops, sorry for so many messages 23:06 but yeah that makes sense re: array out of bounds exceptions 23:06 No worries, they are all good messages 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 228 points, T:1039, killed by a gnome king 23:06 does /oLightning bounce off walls? 23:07 yes 23:07 frost horn will also do the same, right? 23:08 something is pegging me with a /oMM 23:09 <@Shin Umbygashima> yes 23:09 <@Shin Umbygashima> rays bounce off walls, beams don't I think? 23:10 Right 23:10 ok - I looked up beams on wiki - ty all ^^ 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:26556 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:26626 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:26674 23:12 ok this is interesting - if I get messages like "The magic missile hits you! The missiles bounce off!" and I have an unidentified cloak, it's like to be MR? 23:13 I think "The magic missile bounces!" is the message off of walls. 23:13 s/like/likely/ 23:13 rikersan: The reasoning behind Eden's sign is that the dome is inset into your head, so it can't be seen if the viewer is looking up at you, and can be seen more easily if they're looking down at you. 23:14 ah, that makes sense 23:14 honestly I only vaguely recall sending that msg but that does explain a bit, I always figured it was a hat 23:14 (The existing code assumes the viewer is human-sized, ie, a priest or a shopkeeper. The size comparison should probably be made explicit, but I forget if the code path would allow for that) 23:14 I mean, are there any plans to use that code for non-human sized shks? 23:15 also are formic (or my...) shks human-sized? 23:15 I forget, but I think the formian shopkeepers are large, yeah. 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:26803 23:16 hm, tha'ts interesting. I always figured they were smaller due to being ant-based 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:26807 23:16 tho I think formians in FR are medium 23:17 Yeah. I think the high-caste ones are even larger, tho I think the dnh ones are based off Pathfinder's version. 23:17 ah, I've never played pathfinder 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:26898 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:26902 23:17 some day you should compile a list of dnh's source material so we can all marvel at how obscure some of these things are 23:19 (They originate in Planescape (2e D&D), but Pathfinder may have been the reference I used for more recent stats) 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:27404 23:20 ok - I'm getting Boing! messages - gotta be cloak of MR 23:22 Chris_ANG: how much 2e did you play, lol 23:22 None whatsoever! 23:22 I'm just crazy XD 23:22 I've only played 5e, 3.5, and ad&d but I'm pretty certain 2e wasn't well liked past 3.5e 23:22 ah 23:23 well it seems to have top notch worldbuilding even if the mechanics weren't top notch 23:23 there's only one edition of ad&d 23:23 thats 1st edition 23:23 crapola - another BoH 8^P 23:23 all I know is that it was the original starter set, my grandad has it in his garage k2 - played it with some siblings 23:23 all the rest are just bastardized something other whatever i dunno 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:28423 23:23 eraserhead97: save it / stash it so you can polymorph it later? 23:24 the starter set counts too 23:24 the red book 23:24 d&d basic 23:24 https://www.dandwiki.com/w/images/b/bf/Basic_2.jpg that's the one 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:28588 23:24 yup 23:24 i have it 23:24 and the next 3 after it 23:24 that's pretty neat 23:25 plus almost all of the 1st edition ad&d booksd 23:25 *books 23:25 gonna start playing with mini-me now that she can read 23:25 Chris_ANG: something else I was thinking about, would be interesting to try to port some of the 2e birthright stuff into dnh as teh descendant race thing 23:25 it's vaguely related to your concept of init artis 23:25 might want to check it out 23:26 Ok, I'll check it out. 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:29534 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:30238 23:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] waterbug (Bin Swn Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:10781 23:30 People do say that 1e worked well. I don't think I've ever even read the rules for it <_< 23:30 I've only actually played 3.5 and 5. 23:31 And 3.5 was *comically* unbalanced. 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Death, on T:30453 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1180678 points, T:30487, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1558576109.nh.txt 23:33 ^ hax 23:33 i mean congrats! 23:36 @rikersan: Echo is supposed to affect you if you make loud noise. A concave amulet would act like reflection for this, while a convex amulet would grant immunity. 23:36 What exactly the effect would be is still up in the air. Possibly *heavy* level drain. 23:37 She is being postponed again in light of the sudden realization that June is looming. 23:37 Which is ironic because I think the *whole point* of the current dev branch was to add her >_< 23:38 And with that, I think I'm caught up XD 23:39 (At least in terms of quick things. Bug reports still need some time spent tracking them down) 23:40 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 23:46 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:48 Chris_ANG: I mean 1e worked fine when I played it was just super simplistic I guess 23:48 simplistic? 23:49 1e was anything but that 23:49 well, the starter set I played was simple 23:49 that's all I know of 1e 23:49 thats not 1e 23:49 thats basic d&d 23:49 ah, sorry, I missed the difference then 23:49 the editions you hear about are advanced d&d 23:50 <@riker> echo 23:50 whoops that's an attempt at searching 23:53 How *did* that go? They did D&D, then "Advanced" D&D, then "2nd Edition Advanced" D&D, then dropped the "Advanced" for 3e, resulting in "3rd Edition D&D"? 23:57 e stands for edition 23:57 3e then 3.5e 23:57 i dont even recall a 4e 23:57 then 5e