00:03 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of zor, the former Bachelor, on T:10297 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:72206 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 3331673 points, T:72243, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1557585770.nh.txt 00:21 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Mon Inf Fem Cha) killed Buer, on T:20502 00:25 Congrats, oh6 00:25 That's a lot of wormage. 00:27 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 26096 points, T:11099, killed by Mr. Djasinga, the shopkeeper 00:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3887 01:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:08 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 3661 points, T:4529, killed by a dwarf 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:20942 01:18 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5700 01:30 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 132 points, T:768, killed by Ms. Upernavik, the shopkeeper 01:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Elf Fem Non), 827 points, T:1241, killed by a gnome 02:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 21 points, T:66, killed by a kobold 02:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2637 03:05 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:09 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:09 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:19 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh4] eRan2 (disbtopia) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 45129 points, T:8028, killed by a gargoyle 03:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:38 stenno: FCCbot is a name that Elronnd's bot once had. It's also had other names like TheresaMayBot, and is currently called ro-bot. I should really clean up that list. 03:39 If we're using unpopular Prime Ministers as bot names though, surely you'd have to go with TonyAbBot... 03:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 2699 points, T:4087, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 03:47 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:50 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:53 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:57 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:04 [hdf-us] [nh4] hPR2 (disbtopia) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 32964 points, T:3863, killed by a rothe 04:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:09 [hdf-us] [nh4] oRog4 (disbtopia) (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 9230 points, T:559, killed by a sewer rat 04:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 202 points, T:926, killed by a coyote 04:20 [hdf-us] [4k] Mona (taterbizkit) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8004 points, T:1431, killed by a magic missile 04:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:46 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 04:46 [hdf-us] [4k] Dawanchik (taterbizkit) (Sam Hum Fem Law), 6426 points, T:1007, killed by a soldier ant 04:47 Morning. :) 04:55 -!- Hekik has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:59 [hdf-us] [4k] Tord (taterbizkit) (Bar Hum Mal Law), 5811 points, T:1139, killed by a dwarf lord 05:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:09 Hey 05:09 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 05:10 [hdf-us] [nh4] gRan3 (disbtopia) (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 39303 points, T:4655, poisoned by a killer bee 05:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:16 <@Shin Umbygashima> 'ello 05:16 <@Shin Umbygashima> đŸ‘‹ 05:16 [hdf-us] [fh] yudaskin (iona) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of sflicht, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4249 05:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 565 points, T:2406, killed by a hobbit 05:28 * Andrio contemplates stealing the minefield from Fort Ludios 05:28 I did that once I think, but they're too damn heavy! 05:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:29 Mm 05:31 [hdf-us] [nh4] eWZD11 (disbtopia) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 24108 points, T:1910, killed by a rothe 05:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> That's one of those things you do purely because you can. 05:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> Mainly to create and guard a stash in said Fort 05:33 I was going to polypile them actually. 05:33 Though not much need to now that I wished for that saddle. 05:34 <@Shin Umbygashima> Wishing on a saddle? 05:34 <@Shin Umbygashima> I assume you have the everything else about your ascension kit in order 05:34 Yeah. 05:35 <@Shin Umbygashima> gud 05:38 I used up two polymorph wands' worth of charges and didn't get one 05:54 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:59 ouch, centaur in a bear trap 06:02 <@Shin Umbygashima> :GWqlabsRIP: 06:24 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 732 points, T:1406, overpowered by a parrot 06:29 Orc Mimes: Silent and not-so-deadly 06:30 whoops. was scrolled up... 06:32 'Pilgrim, you enter a sacred place!' 'Burrrrp!' 06:32 lol, walked in on a feast, did you? 06:32 Up 06:32 Uh 06:33 I totally didn't magic whistle the purple worm in. ^^ 06:33 he ate the priest? 06:33 Yeah 06:33 ouch 06:33 Why? 06:33 There's still a co-aligned priest elsewhere in the dungeon. 06:33 well, could have bought protection, or do you want the teemple and it's wrong alignment? 06:33 oh, ok 06:34 It's the Valley of the Dead, so even if I wanted it 06:34 ah! 06:34 Priest, you enter a sacred purple worm. 06:34 hehe 06:34 not really, but I do have a pet A as well 06:48 Didn't realise the third floor of the Gehennom mazes could be Juiblex. 06:50 How do you like it? 06:50 I think asmo and baalz and juiblex can be in any order 06:50 Seems so 06:50 By the way, can a magic whistle teleport pets into water? 06:50 not unless they're naturally swimmers 06:51 Invisible Celestia push the boulder into the swamp. Now you can cross it! 06:51 it only teleports them to a place next-ish to you where they can exist 06:51 Yeah, that's right. Push the boulder. 06:51 are you riding an invisible horse? 06:51 Ki-rin 06:51 nice! 06:51 Mm! 06:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> Oh sweet 06:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> Don't lose 'em 06:54 I'll try not to. 07:03 40 isn't very magic 07:05 I got a 0:99 marker last time I wished for that 07:05 heh 07:05 as magic as it gets 07:07 isn't 100 possible? 07:14 oh I thought it didn't run into 3 digits 07:18 I don't really understand the code in mkobj.c but yes, I think 100 is possible (though very unlikely) 07:18 ah, no, it doesn't. 07:18 wiki says charges are capped at 127 but that's probably when charging the marker 07:19 you have to charge a marker when it's at 0:97 (at least) to have a chance of 127, and it seems a waste 07:23 Burrrrp! 07:33 Thanks, Vlad 07:51 you can wish for a 'very' magic marker now? (couldn't ask earlier, had a visitor) 07:52 could do that before, too 07:52 the wish parser is a strange thing 07:52 sounds very strange to me. :) 07:53 FreudSchaden wished for "HOLY DEATH named THE DEATH OF INNOCENTS", on turn 1420 07:53 what did he get? 07:54 <{Demo}2> /oD 07:54 blessed wand of death 07:54 lol, nice 07:54 <{Demo}2> unholy genocide would be funnier 07:55 oh I'm totally doing that next time :D 07:56 I wonder if you can specify a quantity - unholy genocide of 3 07:56 marker of magic and stuff like that works too 07:57 <@Togue the Toeist> Magic marker of magicness 07:57 and 'mar of ker magic' i think 07:57 hmm 07:57 and 'gic of mar kerma' i think 07:57 <@Togue the Toeist> Wish for an empty magic marker 07:58 <@Togue the Toeist> I wonder if that works 07:58 it does 07:58 similarly, wishing for a +3 magic marker will give you a 0:3 magicm arker 07:59 <@Togue the Toeist> Can ya ask for a full magic marker? 07:59 you can, but it has no effect 07:59 like, you can wish for +99 marker 07:59 and you will get the lower of 30+d69 and 99 07:59 <@Togue the Toeist> +32767 magic marker 08:00 <@Togue the Toeist> Thats some dice eh 08:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> Come on Andy, you got this man 08:00 for charge wishes, the rng will pick the lower of the one it rolled and the one that was specified 08:01 29+d70* 08:02 better just asked for a (buc) fixed greased magic marker :) 08:02 buc as whichever you want 08:02 Hm 08:02 Random ice box in the wizard's tower with a chameleon corpse in it 08:02 convenient 08:02 And a doppelganger corpse 08:02 And a purple worm corpse 08:03 the game tries to tell you you should polymorph into a purple worm? :) 08:03 I can tame the purple worm. 08:04 <@Shin Umbygashima> Good luck tipping that out though 08:04 too bad you can't zap the wand into containers 08:04 I'm doing it 08:05 The rock troll rises from the dead! 08:05 Didn't know that would happen 08:06 that would be fun; very small critters would then be tame when you rescue them from the container (after undead turning on a corpse in it), medium ones just jump out and run off - or stay sitting in it if it's a cat - and big ones destroy the container, look at you funny, and possibly attack right away. :) 08:07 and no, cat in box is not thinking of schroedinger, but the hab it of cats to squeeze into any cardboard box they can squeeze themselves into, whether they fit or not. :) 08:08 the late cat had to test every shoe box I brought home. :)) 08:09 [hdf-us] [nh4] moxana (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 33947 points, T:3227, killed by a bolt of cold 08:09 Apparently Cleaver's arc attack doesn't work when you're polymorphed into a vampire. 08:10 Burrrrp! 08:10 you seem to have a hungry purple worm 08:10 ^^ 08:10 aren't they always hungry? :) 08:11 Generally, yeah. 08:11 Except when they're eating. 08:14 <@Shin Umbygashima> So I'm pretty sure I got a magic lamp from Izchak 08:15 <@Shin Umbygashima> Not sure what to go for though 08:15 permanent light source? 08:15 <@Shin Umbygashima> No altars yet, got a bag of holding in minetown 08:15 <@Shin Umbygashima> Have a few light sources 08:15 <@Shin Umbygashima> Unsure if I'll luck into something in Sokoban 08:16 <@Shin Umbygashima> I think I'll go DSM but just a matter of color at that point 08:16 well, silver? 08:16 <@Shin Umbygashima> Tempted to say gray and bank on reflection down the line 08:16 <@Shin Umbygashima> See I would but Sokoban might toss me an amulet 08:16 eh, so? 08:17 if you get boh again, you don't have anything 08:17 <@Shin Umbygashima> I'm allergic to redundancy :[ 08:17 then perish 08:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non) wished for "blessed +3 fireproof Premium Heart", on T:4558 08:17 <@Shin Umbygashima> ;A; 08:17 <@Shin Umbygashima> kidding aside probably gonna just go silver lul 08:17 yah i think it's the best still 08:17 <@Shin Umbygashima> not many wands so far and I'd rather not get chumped the second they start showing 08:19 <@Shin Umbygashima> oh, I also have force bolt book for whatever that's worth 08:19 100zm 08:19 <@Shin Umbygashima> might attempt to learn that at Some Pointâ„¢ 08:19 <@Shin Umbygashima> pls 08:19 or 50 if you want to sell it 08:19 <@Shin Umbygashima> Arcs aren't all that strapped for gold 08:19 <@Shin Umbygashima> And I can actually take levels in attack spells so 08:20 burrrp? 08:21 <@Shin Umbygashima> !gt Andrio 08:21 no, he summoned other things too quickly 08:21 There's plenty of gremlins to feast on now though 08:21 -!- Umbire25 has joined #hardfought 08:21 -!- Umbire25 is now known as Umby 08:21 Hi 08:21 Hello Umby, Welcome to #hardfought 08:22 hi 08:22 Hello Mickmane, Welcome to #hardfought 08:22 hah 08:22 Just popping in on this end to say 08:22 !gt Andrio 08:22 Fucking 08:22 what was the team command 08:22 !team test 08:22 can someoen please tell Beholder to respond to my Morning. :) and my Hiya? :) 08:22 I think that's only in #NetHack 08:22 !gt is #nethack 08:22 Hello all 08:22 piss 08:22 you're right 08:22 bonjour 08:22 Hello stennowork, Welcome to #hardfought 08:22 salut 08:22 Hello stennowork, Welcome to #hardfought 08:22 ohaio 08:22 lol 08:22 but yeah Andy you got a good run going man 08:23 <@Shin Umbygashima> wish I'd remembered it was alt.org only 08:23 <@Shin Umbygashima> but worth popping in :B 08:23 you can !lotg him 08:23 !lotg Andrio 08:23 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, Andrio! 08:23 thanks~ 08:24 I have more pet purple worms now than I know how to name. 08:24 name one stenno 08:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> >the genie just fucks off soon as I rub the lampo 08:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> and there goes that plan 08:24 aw 08:24 ouch. 08:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> oh well, time to get another pet and blitz Sokoban before spawns get too fucky 08:25 <@Shin Umbygashima> ESP amulet means finding one shouldn't be too hard 08:26 <@Shin Umbygashima> speaking of, apparently one of the shops had a giant mimic 08:26 <@Shin Umbygashima> so kept clear of that for the time being 08:31 <@Shin Umbygashima> ooh, spinached from 16 to 18/01 08:31 <@Shin Umbygashima> Backup? 08:31 She got wand of death'd 08:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> ;A; 08:32 aww 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:4850 08:37 <@Shin Umbygashima> mm, least I have this broad pick with which to bludgeon things 08:37 <@Shin Umbygashima> found another pet 08:37 <@Shin Umbygashima> can only hope Sokoban is decent to me 08:38 !who 08:38 Mickmane: [hdf-us] fcloud [nh362] rdplatypus [nh362] DishOfTheDay [nh362] iona [fh] | [hdf-eu] mightyquinn [nh362] elenmirie [evil] | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh362] 08:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> sweet, wand of monstermaking 08:39 [hdf-us] [fh] yudaskin (iona) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 55824 points, T:12876, killed by an owlbear 08:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> sleep res from ded elf, things slowly coming together 08:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> oh rough 08:40 <@Shin Umbygashima> kitten suddenly not in the mood to fight things 08:41 maybe she's too small? 08:41 <@Shin Umbygashima> it's a goddamn kobold mummy 08:41 <@Shin Umbygashima> a mummy sure but a kobold 08:41 <@Shin Umbygashima> I got grandparents scarier than those 08:41 <@Shin Umbygashima> :P 08:41 lol 08:42 <@Shin Umbygashima> level 8, officially in monkaS territory 08:42 <@Shin Umbygashima> and on cue come the bees 08:42 POG 08:42 what's monkas? 08:42 no bttv emotes in irc 08:42 Mickmane, an emoticon from the twitch streaming service 08:43 its just a sweating frog, expressing uneasyness 08:43 ah 08:43 https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.559267314.2064/ap,550x550,12x16,1,transparent,t.png <- monkas frog 08:43 ah 08:44 'So thou thought thou couldst kill me, fool.' 'Burrrrp!' 08:44 <@Shin Umbygashima> few tins of bee should get me poison proofs 08:44 hehe 08:44 <@Shin Umbygashima> bam, first one 08:44 I'm more the :happycthulhu: :happygoo: :trophy: kind of emoticon (Steam stuff) 08:44 Apparently there was a magic marker just lying there in Orcus's place that whole time 08:44 :balloon: 08:44 huh 08:45 you didn name on estenno :) 08:46 I did, actually 08:46 did you have amnesia or somehing, Andrio? 08:46 No, just never mapped this floor 08:46 and some others it seemed :) 08:47 The mysterious force has been surprisingly lenient so far. 08:48 nice :) 08:48 the text is going too fast for me to follow what exactly is going on. :) 08:48 Running 08:48 yeah, just saying, I'll miss stuff, but I got you on the TV screen. :) 08:49 ^^ 08:49 ah, there we go. 08:50 did you drop the amulet? 08:50 I did 08:50 why? 08:50 So I could fetch the other purple worm without the mysterious force. 08:50 oh! 08:50 makes sense 08:54 I'm now back at the Valley and only 3 mysterious forcec. 08:54 s 08:54 very nice :) 08:54 See you, wizard 08:56 <@Shin Umbygashima> You can ascend this one man 08:56 <@Shin Umbygashima> I believe in you 08:56 <@Shin Umbygashima> meanwhile found Sokoban and bigass general store on the same floor 08:56 cool 08:56 Nice 08:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> ugh, actually too much to buy lul 08:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> have to raid the potion shop on fl2 as well 08:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> bought a couple of wands for now, gonna engrave ID in a mo 09:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> got a magic whistle so Sokoban should go smooth unless I get dick spawns 09:01 <@Shin Umbygashima> iron wand is magic missile 09:02 <@Shin Umbygashima> random crystal wand in sokoban is CTMI 09:02 <@Shin Umbygashima> (cancel, tele, make invis) 09:02 nice 09:02 <@Shin Umbygashima> holding off until I can find an ideal way to test which 09:03 also, I should really look at that curses interface, so nice 09:03 <{Demo}2> zap it at a cursed item and find out :p 09:03 I've got the wiki page with explnations in a tab already, and had a look at it 09:04 <@Shin Umbygashima> shit, gnome lord spawned oos and chugged gain level 09:05 <@Shin Umbygashima> would've liked to know which potion it was 09:05 <@Shin Umbygashima> and blacklight got me, fun times 09:11 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 09:12 Apparently the Bell of Opening doesn't give a message when you recharge it? 09:12 what does it do again? 09:13 <@Shin Umbygashima> part of invocation ritual set 09:13 Apart from the invocation, it acts like a wand of detection 09:13 no, I mean later, why keep it. 09:13 And it can release you from engulfers 09:13 <@Shin Umbygashima> used on its own it opens and unlocks everything in a certain radius 09:13 hm, items, doors, or what? 09:13 And you get points for it 09:13 <@Shin Umbygashima> I've used it to open the drawbridge 09:14 ah 09:14 Hopefully I haven't forgotten anything 09:16 I know that feeling :) 09:25 <@Shin Umbygashima> "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man!?" 09:30 Astral Plane time 09:33 having a break? 09:33 Wiztesting something 09:33 ah 09:34 All the humans 09:34 how did you do that? 09:34 do what? 09:34 have it show all the humans? 09:35 I turned into a vampire. 09:35 oh, lol 09:38 <@Shin Umbygashima> "hmm, it might take forever for enough trash mobs to level my kittens--" 09:38 that's a lot of ddead famines 09:38 mm 09:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> (large cat sighted in 2nd Soko floor past pits) 09:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> "...well then" 09:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> and yet another blacklight 09:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> :ResidentSleeper: 09:41 <@Shin Umbygashima> half the rings I've picked up are hunger, what's good game 09:41 First try, neutral altar 09:41 yay 09:41 oh hey, someone's swinging Sting at me. 09:41 <@Shin Umbygashima> Wew 09:41 <@Shin Umbygashima> Bring it on home Andy 09:42 why are you running around there? 09:42 lol 09:42 Seeing if I can tame Famine 09:42 lol 09:42 you have Staff? 09:42 No 09:42 then it's going to be difficult 09:42 unless you can drli otherwise/ 09:43 hmm maybe stormy? 09:44 he's doing vampire lord bite 09:44 oh 09:44 I like how much he's hit me and I'm still satiated 09:44 uh oh 09:45 that sounds risky 09:45 It is 09:45 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 12006 points, T:4887, killed by the hallucinogen-distorted Oracle 09:45 We did it with Pestilence once, using Stormbringer 09:45 strange that its not an instadeath to bite famine tbh 09:45 right 09:45 yeah 09:45 just don't eat him. 09:45 could be considered a bug 09:46 what happens if you bite green slime? 09:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> Killed by the Oracle 09:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> lul 09:46 ouch, why? 09:46 hallucinogen-distorted, i would guess it was a black light 09:46 an uncursed wand of polymorph (5:5) 09:46 @v?black light 09:46 black light (y) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 10d12 explode hallucination | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, amorphous, breathless, mindless, unsolid, seeinvis, invisible, vegan 09:47 that's a well-enduring wand. 09:47 alignment: 0, so it's likely to spawn at the oracle 09:47 <@Shin Umbygashima> that much I guessed 09:47 <@Shin Umbygashima> My thing is the Oracle never moves from their spot so 09:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> niceâ„¢ 09:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> troll in the vicinity 09:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> and disposed of 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1280 points, T:2438, poisoned by a dart 09:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> shit, owlbear got the big cat after 09:50 Gotcha! Famine was caught! 09:50 congratulations! 09:51 double even 09:51 nice 09:51 Thanks 09:51 You and Famine ..? 09:51 <@Shin Umbygashima> :Clap: 09:51 yeah 09:51 nice 09:51 <@Shin Umbygashima> Good shit dude 09:51 <@Shin Umbygashima> You were due for one 09:51 Mm 09:53 Famine immediately got killed by an Angel of the Lady of course 09:53 <@Shin Umbygashima> oh, another big cat spawned 09:53 <@Shin Umbygashima> ez replacement 09:54 but he resurrected still? 09:54 but not tame anymore i'd guess 09:55 He was still tame. 09:55 I miss all the good bits. 09:55 There's always the ttyrec 09:55 but I saw you with tame famine :) 09:55 mm 09:58 Generally resurrected pets will still be tame, unless you killed them. 09:58 i thought it was not really guaranteed 09:58 oh hm 09:59 It's not 09:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> Just a good chance they come back tame 09:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> if not then they're usually at least peaceful 10:01 <@Shin Umbygashima> 3 cans of spinach total on the run 10:01 <@Shin Umbygashima> 18/17 now 10:01 <@Shin Umbygashima> almost wish there was an artifact mattock 10:01 <@Shin Umbygashima> I'm cracking so many skulls with this one and I have pick-axe and club maxed 10:02 does it count as both? 10:02 <@Shin Umbygashima> nah, been swapping with an aklys 10:02 <@Shin Umbygashima> 3.6 made it so fucking good 10:03 i really have to use aklys more 10:03 only hear good things about it 10:03 maybe a caveman is finally interesting to play 10:03 As a priest, I used one for the entire game 10:03 Or a healer 10:03 one of those 10:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> aklys instantly solves that "no ranged weapon" problem in early game when you need it for eyes 10:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> Priest sounds more logical 10:04 <@Shin Umbygashima> (to me) 10:04 Probably had Magicbane as a healer actually 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1977 points, T:3252, killed by a water moccasin 10:11 <@Shin Umbygashima> checks list 10:12 <@Shin Umbygashima> Yep, fountain quaffing still dangerous 10:12 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 10:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a centipede, on T:22282 10:19 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 10:24 !tell k2 The invisible lich casts a spell at the orcish soldier! The orcish soldier's leather armor turns to dust! obfree: deleting worn obj (123: 1) Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 10:24 I'm on it, hothraxxa. 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:13538 10:28 <@Shin Umbygashima> destory armor bug? 10:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> wew, just fended off a leocrotta 10:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> fucking hate those things 10:34 <@Shin Umbygashima> oops another troll 10:40 I - an uncursed wand of wishing (0:3) {7}. 10:40 <@Shin Umbygashima> :PogChamp: 10:40 * hothraxxa does the happy wishing dance 10:40 <@Shin Umbygashima> dealt with troll, naga burnt my displacement cloak though 10:43 <@Shin Umbygashima> on the zoo part now, thankfully half was mordor orcs 10:43 <@Shin Umbygashima> displacement and pets are doing me good, my only problem fights are a mumak and maybe the giant mimic 10:44 <@Shin Umbygashima> oh, and flesh golem 10:45 <@Shin Umbygashima> nothing the good ol' hit-and-run can't solve along with big E 10:47 <@Shin Umbygashima> oof, energy vortex still inactive, gonna save them and the mumak for last 10:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> not a fucking rust monster 10:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> aaaaaaaaaa 10:50 <@Shin Umbygashima> just mumak, mimic, and other shit left now 10:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> wew, amulet of reflection 10:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> and I can just leave the last few enemies alone and get the fuck out of here 10:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> now to find yet ANOTHER replacement pet and consider a run at the mines 10:54 * NCommander gahs 10:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> gah> 10:54 Why did I have to get into DCSS ._.; 10:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> ?* 10:54 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 10:55 <@Shin Umbygashima> oh coding woes 10:55 <@Shin Umbygashima> RIP 10:55 Leocrottas probably kill more of my chars than team a 10:56 <@Shin Umbygashima> not much worth in the general store, raided it anyway 10:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> and dead to a black pudding, because I'm that unlucky with hits 10:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> whatever. 11:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> ow 11:07 -!- Hekik has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:13 <@Shin Umbygashima> alright, shield of reflection in early shop, just need some money and hope it's noncursed 11:14 -!- j__ has joined #hardfought 11:14 -!- j__ is now known as rebatela 11:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:5378 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1077 points, T:2737, killed by a pony 11:30 who else reads [falling rock] piercer instead of falling [rock piercer] when it falls on their head? 11:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> lul 11:32 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 11:32 -!- Skylord_Guthix is now known as Guthix 11:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:18572 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:18572 11:36 Marvin the invisible Arbalester removes a wand from a bag called sack. Marvin the invisible Arbalester zaps a wand of death! 11:36 where's the kaboom? 11:37 there was supposed to be a kaboom 11:37 what game? 11:37 lol, I do "a bag called sack" too 11:37 Guthix: evilhack, and that was a joke 11:37 aha 11:38 how good is evilhack? i notice it's pretty new 11:38 from bugs bunny 11:38 * raisse goes to cook rice and vegetables because friends are coming to dinner 11:38 evilhack is evil. it's the hardest of all the variants imo 11:39 the monsters are stronger, you have fewer attack options 11:39 eg stoning from a c corpse is like player stoning so it takes several turns 11:40 oh nice 11:40 i had titan medusa. i hit the bugger with a c corpse and he managed to fill the room with monsters while he was stiffening 11:40 fug 11:41 then i was blinded and started whacking something that was a 3 11:41 turned out to be a beholder 11:41 k2: wtf are beholders only 3 warning? 11:41 oh no!! 11:42 beholders can disintegrate right? 11:42 beholders are not a problem if you're blind 11:42 and stone you 11:42 19k turns and still have weaponless. I should probly put the pickaxe away... 11:43 got wands of digging? 11:43 i used to hoard wands of digging and i always ended up with about 20 by the time i hit the planes 11:44 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 11:44 so now i start using them once i have a half dozen or so. turns out a pickax is not as necessary. who knew? 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Master Kaen, on T:19478 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19550 11:51 !who 11:51 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2019-05-15 21:18 EDT: looking at this in the dnh ideas list again: https://etherpad.net/p/dNethack_Descendant_Race as a veteran thing-adder-to-variants, how hard do you think slex's hybridization would be to (roughly) port to dnh? the adding-a-random-artifact thing looks simple enough if hacky 11:51 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] kincle [nh362] rebatela [nh362] Hekik [nh362] Grouchy [nh362] hothraxxa [evil] MaxLunar [slex] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh362] Guthix [nh362] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:51 !tell @riker if someone were willing to port hybrid races to dnethack it wouldn't be that hard I think, maybe that someone could even come up with a better menu for selecting them? I'd be thrilled because then I could take their menu code and use it for slex :D 11:51 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 11:54 hothraxxa: yeah i do the same thing with wands of digging. always have a zillion of them. I almost always play weaponless but inevitably hit something with the pickaxe just out of laziness/carlessness so i end up missing the conduct 11:56 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha) averted death, on T:2920 11:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:58 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha) averted death, on T:2981 11:59 best kept in your bag 11:59 yep 12:00 the farthest i ever got before i hit with a pickaxe was just past 37k turns 12:00 i was in gehennom 12:01 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha) averted death, on T:3059 12:02 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:03 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha) averted death, on T:3095 12:03 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 11627 points, T:3096, killed by a bullet 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:40748 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4358 12:10 nice 12:11 yeah, you really have to put it away in bag if you want to get through gehenomm. Once i lose the conduct i, I bless the pickaxe to +6/+7 and just run around with it digging tunnels like a madman 12:12 But I'm kind of tempted to put it away and try for the conduct this time (I've only officially gotten it once) 12:12 i'm only at the castle anyway 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20643 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 6849 points, T:6788, killed by a gray unicorn 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:21210 12:22 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:21376 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3595 points, T:3946, killed by a panther 12:30 -!- Umby has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:21766 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:22008 12:41 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a hexagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3812 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4025 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hekik (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:41736 12:59 well this looks wrong. only 4 wraiths in the vod? 12:59 * hothraxxa smells zombie bones 13:01 yeah somebody cleaned out this graveyard 13:03 hopefully my valley is unlooted. i need lots of spellbooks 13:03 i've only gotten valley bones a couple times (you're playing evil hack though right? ) 13:04 all the spellbooks are still here. probably this was a valk or some non-caster 13:04 yeah, evilhack 13:04 because i hate myself 13:05 The bone devil wields a unicorn horn! 13:05 well 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6680 13:07 <@Shin Umbygashima> Oh yeah, they totally do that 13:07 <@Shin Umbygashima> My best Arc run I had a pet bone devil that I let have a spare unihorn 13:07 <@Shin Umbygashima> (in vanilla mind you) 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3464 13:13 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 13:14 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:18 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 9798 points, T:8217, quit 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:27405 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:24781 13:27 d'oh 13:27 was JUST about to put it away too 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:25558 13:38 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 13:38 wow. these are elenmirie bones and they're loaded 13:39 Hiya. 13:39 !who 13:39 StatueSurfer: [hdf-us] rebatela [nh362] every [nh362] RedArrow [nh362] oh6 [nh362] Hekik [nh362] hothraxxa [evil] MaxLunar [slex] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 13:39 !lg elenmirie evilhack 13:40 !help 13:40 StatueSurfer: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 13:40 !lastgame evilhack elenmirie 13:40 StatueSurfer: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/evilhack/dumplog/1558023075.evil.txt 13:41 [hdf-us] [fh] Knave (knaveightt) (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 17177 points, T:831, quit 13:41 * NCommander awakes 13:46 the wand of wishing is 1:1 but i already have mine at 0:3 and all i need are markers, and she had two 13:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> Wew 13:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> Meanwhile this Arc run seems to like spawning boxes and chests on traps 13:50 the containers will be cursed but i don't think the contents are 13:50 <@Shin Umbygashima> Dog. You were hit by a rock. 13:50 <@Shin Umbygashima> Stop hanging around the fucking rock dispensing trap. 13:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> Chests had some actual stuff, including a bit of gold 13:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> Shop on fl2 as well 13:55 <@Shin Umbygashima> small one, but wand and light source is cool 14:03 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:06 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:29231 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh4] hRog1 (disbtopia) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 34917 points, T:3768, killed by a gnome lord 14:16 i almost got killed by a wand of death in sokoban 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 90412 points, T:18156, poisoned by a unicorn horn 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:29618 14:25 nice, blessed magic lamp just hanging out on the floor in gehennom 14:25 I wonder what I should wish for 14:27 if you don't really need anything, a permanent light source is convenient 14:28 Already have another magic lamp for a light source, this one's excess haha 14:28 oh, nice 14:29 I'm actually not missing much, maybe a source of levitation since I haven't found the boots or ring 14:30 what role are you 14:33 i would polypile for the levitation ring, but if you can't do that it's not a terrible wish 14:35 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:42 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 14:48 hi 14:48 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 14:48 K2: Message from hothraxxa at 2019-05-16 10:24 EDT: The invisible lich casts a spell at the orcish soldier! The orcish soldier's leather armor turns to dust! obfree: deleting worn obj (123: 1) Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 14:48 hmm ok 14:48 hothraxxa you here? 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Ixoth, on T:33534 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33535 14:50 !tell hothraxxa thanks for the bug report. was that lich a pet of yours? 14:50 No worries, K2, I've got this! 14:50 * K2 wonders if he can recreate that in sporkhack also 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 3711 points, T:4940, quit 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11108 15:03 yay 15:03 \o/ 15:04 hey K2 15:04 whats your current status? 15:04 i identify as a toaster oven 15:04 StatueSurfer: I am a neutral priest 15:04 and apart from that? 15:04 married? 15:04 then couldn't you cast levitation? 15:04 like, are you back from the things you had to do 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] jonadab (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 4462 points, T:4967, killed by a soldier ant 15:04 or have you resolved that issue yet 15:05 rip 15:05 heh 15:05 i am enroute back home 15:05 yay 15:05 at houston, tx airport at the moment 15:05 3.5 hr layover 15:05 good good 15:05 don't have the levitate spell, actually forgot it exists since I usually don't play spellcasters 15:06 whats up stenno? 15:06 currently considering what to eat and then i will probably sleep because i slept really badly last night 15:07 !booze stenno 15:07 * Beholder passes stenno a shot of the hard stuff, prayed over by Izchak at -9 degrees Celsius. 15:07 sleep well friend 15:07 thanks :D 15:07 :P 15:07 glad that you are back 15:07 hey since when does Izchak sell booze 15:07 me too 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:32267 15:07 <@Togue the Toeist> he doesnt tho 15:07 variant? 15:07 <@Togue the Toeist> he blessed the booze 15:08 one could say it's a holy spirit ahaha 15:08 hmmm 15:08 .. 15:11 yeah +5 hawaiian shirt 15:11 mahalo 15:12 heh 15:12 lol 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:32843 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33094 15:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:33146 15:26 -!- doraki has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:26 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 15:26 are there any admin? 15:26 i want reset my password 15:27 wanna* 15:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:28 hi doraki 15:28 @K2 are you a bot? 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:35501 15:28 * K2 checks himself 15:28 hmm no 15:28 sorry 15:28 i need to ask to be sure 15:29 my username is 3m3hm3t on the server 15:29 send me a private message please with the email associated with the account 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2714 points, T:4236, killed by a bolt of cold 15:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:34 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 15:37 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 15:37 -!- doraki has quit [] 15:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1074 points, T:1482, escaped 15:45 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 86323 points, T:6794, killed by a monster (skulk blade) 15:56 so 15:56 hows mayhack tournament going so far? 15:56 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1295 points, T:2463, quit 16:04 mayhack tournament? what did I miss? 16:07 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha) killed Amandine, on T:562 16:13 i think it was a joke 16:19 ^ was a joke 16:20 so i can start boarding here in about 30 min 16:20 long ass flight to newark from here 16:20 * K2 has several movies saved to his phone 16:20 spaceballs or a bugs life 16:20 hmmm 16:21 oh hey... after today, the next time i get on a plane will be to DUBLIN 16:21 \o/ 16:22 sweet! 16:22 where u coming from now ? 16:22 * K2 makes a new artifact for evilhack called DUBLIN 16:22 rebatela i'm in houston making my way home 16:22 this is 1st leg 16:23 why are you flying around so often? what's your work? 16:24 i was in louisiana for some military training exercise 16:24 travelling home today 16:24 ah 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33365 16:25 stenno are you gonna make it to worldcon this year? 16:26 gotta see 16:27 well shit 16:27 we're only a few months away 16:28 must attend... worldcon... 16:28 hehe 16:28 * K2 tries to do the jedi mind trick on stenno 16:28 yeah yeah :P 16:28 DO IT 16:28 * K2 accidentally jedi mind tricks himself 16:28 stenno has a greased helmet your mind tricks don't work on him 16:28 lol 16:28 -!- Umby has joined #hardfought 16:29 maybe maybe attie will have time too but i doubt it 16:29 so now i feel compelled to go to worldcon twice 16:29 ???? 16:29 i hoped that i can come with her together but i don't think she has the time then 16:29 ooh that'd be way cool if she could make it too 16:29 highly unlikely though 16:29 tell attie she has to come 16:30 well she has to do her phd 16:30 jedi mind trick, go! 16:30 worldcon > phd 16:30 and travelling from hong kong to dublin is unlike travelling from germany to dublin :) 16:30 oh damn thats right 16:30 i keep forgetting she's in china 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:8001 16:31 if the timeplan holds, i think she's done like 1 month afte worldcon 16:31 nice 16:31 give her speed boots so she can finish quicker 16:31 look at all these ppl lined up to board the flight 16:31 hehe 16:31 boarding doesnt start for 20 min still 16:32 i always make a point to get on last 16:32 why 16:32 why the fuck would i want to sit on a plane any longer than necessary 16:32 she will take as much time as she needs :) 16:32 i feel like there's a flaw in that logic 16:32 but i can't find it 16:33 only one i can think of is losing a prime spot to put your carry on bag 16:33 but whatever 16:33 I'd find sitting in a plane better than standing in line 16:33 so if you get on last... you dont have to wait in line 16:33 no0t that I'd go anywhere by plane. I don't get into things I can't stop and get out of any time, or travel anywhere I can't walk home from if I have to. 16:34 just wait until the line is gone. get up and board 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:8141 16:34 ah 16:34 its usually business folks getting in iine first 16:35 errrrmahgerd i have to get back to the office NOW 16:35 huuuuurrrryyyy up 16:35 silly mortals 16:35 does the military not have their own airplanes? 16:35 they do 16:35 I'd prefer sittingn in the plane still, after the checking in is done, rather than worrying outside whether I'd miss it 16:36 but they tend to use commercial flights 16:36 but yet again, I don't want to go onto a plane anyway :) 16:36 heh 16:36 i see 16:36 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 16:36 riding in a C-130 sucks 16:36 whats a c-130? 16:37 big ass military lane 16:37 plane 16:37 ooo 16:37 i've travelled so much in the last years that flying is now in the category 'a nuisance' 16:37 imma guess its a bumpy ride or smth 16:37 C-130 doing evasive maneuvers is better than any roller coaster you'll ever rid eon 16:38 oh no lol 16:38 heh 16:38 I don't see the point of roller coasters either. :) 16:38 its been awhile since i've experienced that 16:38 either it's safe, and there's nothing to get excited about, or it's not safe, and stupid to get on. :) 16:38 as a kid i hated roller coasters like crazy, was terrified of heights 16:38 alright i'm gonna log and start getting ready to not board 16:38 :P 16:38 cya 16:38 see you :) 16:38 as a youth I went on some 16:38 next time i'm on it'll be from home wooop 16:39 o7 16:39 wheee! 16:39 o/ 16:39 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:40 I'm told after my first ghost ride I was crying, so-called mother thought, oh dear, what have I done! Until she heard what I was crying; more ghosts! more ghosts! 16:41 these days I'M afraid of heights, btw. 16:41 can figurines be polypiled into figurines of other monsters? 16:42 I get queazy even thinking about that 20 or so years ago I sat on the window sill in the third floor (old flat). 16:42 can't look ouat of the window properly, must hold onto the sill/sides and only peek my head slightly outside if I want to look down or to the side 16:43 Hekik, I think that's just random chance of any magic object ending up as a figurine, if that's actually possible 16:43 figurines are tools, right? 16:43 so it'd stay within its tools category 16:43 right 16:43 probably not worth it to grab that lizard figurine then 16:44 hey, why not go with lizard pet :) 16:45 considering my pet minotaur just got splatted, I think it would only end in heartache 16:45 aw 16:45 you could polymorph it 16:46 always stay away from perilous edges, ya never know when your finger will randomly twitch and hit the key to move you ;) 16:46 oh duh, that would be essentially what I was trying to do in the first place 16:46 oh 16:47 pet chameleons are fun... for like 10 seconds 16:47 then they blow themselves up or something 16:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> Or turn into something wimpy that shits on their HP when they take on another form and attack something 16:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> the hell killed your mino though 16:49 minotaur pets tend to die quickly because their AC is poor 16:50 lategame pets need reflection 16:50 <@Shin Umbygashima> coulda fooled me 16:50 I think an ice devil killed my pet minotaur 16:50 <@Shin Umbygashima> and yeah but iunno where Hek is gamewise, late to the convo 16:51 in gehennom 16:51 <@Shin Umbygashima> oh yikes, that'd do it 16:51 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:51 I've got the spell of charm monster, and minotaurs rarely resist it if ever 16:51 alas, the lizard was merely generated peaceful and not friendly 16:52 minotaurs have 0 MR so they literally never resist it 16:53 better a tame minotaur than a hostile one, though :P 16:53 <@Shin Umbygashima> Aye 16:53 don't make great pets tho 16:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> They're decent, just not long-term material 16:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> The catch 22 is making them better pets would mean making them far worse to actuall fight 16:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> :monkaS: 17:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "The blessed Master Key of Thievery", on T:12953 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:13078 17:07 [hdf-us] [slex] Asriel (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 1692 points, T:2187, quit 17:07 LarienTelrunya, are you around? 17:08 Mickmane: yes 17:08 are you still alive in your slex game?? 17:08 Mickmane: will go to bed soon though 17:08 For a while I was waiting for you to turn up so you could watch while I play, then I realized yo're in the chat 17:08 next time, ping me :) 17:08 didn't play much after you went to bed last night. 17:09 Mickmane: how would I have known? also I was active in the other channel for hours 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 26926 points, T:10909, killed by a vampire lord 17:09 didn't look at that, there's only room for 2 to comprehensible follow stuff. 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:37533 17:09 don't worry, we just missed each other. :) 17:10 well I'm also watching some new player in the other channel; if something noteworthy happens in your run, ping me again! 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:37535 17:10 ok! 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:37536 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:37537 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:37554 17:16 <@Shin Umbygashima> names self Croesus, fights guard anyway, dies 17:17 i read a scroll of amnesia, but it doesn't look like it really had any effect on my discoveries or my inventory 17:17 must have forgotten to do its job 17:18 <@Shin Umbygashima> Sometimes you luck out and you only forget floor layouts 17:18 <@Shin Umbygashima> I think blessed only wipes knowledge of the current floor 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] 3m3hm3t (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2699 points, T:5231, killed by a xan 17:19 ah that must be it 17:19 i found two of them on the same level 17:19 so i thought it was going to be a less dangerous scroll 17:23 amythyst turns booze into fruit juice, right? 17:24 yep 17:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> amnesia is the perfect argument against random scroll reading 17:25 <@Shin Umbygashima> without at least some form of ID 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:38206 17:26 thanks 17:28 !tell k2 it was not a pet. it happened a second time 17:28 hothraxxa: Message from K2 at 2019-05-16 14:50 EDT: thanks for the bug report. was that lich a pet of yours? 17:28 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, hothraxxa. 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh4] gWZD1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 34090 points, T:3604, killed by a white unicorn 17:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:42 well that was good preparation 17:42 although now that i think of it, i guess throne shocks don't affect wands 17:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: The scroll resisted the identification attempt!] 17:47 <@Shin Umbygashima> I tend to bag rings and wands anyway as a preventative measure 17:49 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 379 points, T:951, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 17:50 well you're right, thrones aren't a threat to rings and wands 17:50 chests and boxes, however 17:51 i find it amusing and slightly puzzling that so many people think untrapping chests and boxes is a waste of time 17:52 those traps are pretty uncommon 17:53 not to mention it's kind of annoying to untrap every single container and door 17:53 maybe but i like to keep my rings 17:54 also, container traps are not that uncommon 17:54 wow, just found the Vorpal Blade laying around. Crazy amount of artifacts in this game 17:54 1 in 10 contianers are trapped 17:55 hm 17:55 now, I wonder if it's worth using if I've already got +7 Fire Brand 17:56 no 17:56 it isn't 17:56 just throw it into your stash 17:56 i'll warn you now: if you play evilhack/xnethack/grunt and don't check doors as a matter of habit, YOU WILL REGRET THIS 17:56 and be glad somebody on the astral plane didn't get it 17:57 yes i know of xnethack's scaling door damage 17:57 nice sc2k reference 17:57 ? 17:57 oh sorry, I meant that towards hothraxxa 17:57 heh. i knew that 18:03 "The invisible Baalzebub screams!" Was he peaceful? 18:03 he was 18:03 well he's not anymore 18:03 lol 18:03 they like to meditate 18:04 so if you come upon them with stealth, they're peaceful at first 18:04 didn't even know he was back there 18:04 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Arc Inf Mal Law), 341 points, T:601, mowed down by a gnome lord 18:04 "The magic missile misses the vampire bat. The invisible Baalzebub screams! The magic missile hits the invisible Baalzebub!" 18:04 looks like a bug 18:04 those are in the wrong order 18:05 maybe he saw the magic missile coming 18:05 probably 18:05 lol 18:05 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 18:07 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of saxonysam, the former Evoker, on T:393 18:07 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Rog Vam Fem Cha), 731 points, T:410, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 18:11 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:6904 18:15 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:15 dang 3 straight levels with cross-aligned temples 18:16 and it's the same alignment 18:17 that's almost enough to persuade you to accept your new saviour 18:18 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:20 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1777 18:20 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 2621 points, T:1785, killed by a giant beetle 18:20 short adventure 18:21 d'oh! getting ready to ascend and i accidentally cast stone to flesh at myself... lost ring of sd and luckstone 18:22 could have been worse I guess. not too hard to replace and not all that necessary 18:24 -!- Umby has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:24 <@riker> . 18:24 @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-16 11:51 EDT: if someone were willing to port hybrid races to dnethack it wouldn't be that hard I think, maybe that someone could even come up with a better menu for selecting them? I'd be thrilled because then I could take their menu code and use it for slex :D 18:24 <@riker> amy you here 18:24 <@riker> request for beholder command: 'is currently on this channel' 18:24 amy went to bed a bit ago 18:25 you can just start typing the name and see if it autocomplets; lar nope, doesn't 18:25 <@riker> not on discord :) 18:25 well, discord is crap anyway 18:26 whoa! 18:26 *popcorn* 18:26 <@riker> this is mostly false but I'm not interested in debating that right now, I'm too hungry 18:26 <@riker> plus you have jonadab on your side anyway 18:26 <@riker> :p 18:26 <@riker> !tell LarienTelrunya I'm considering it - if it's gonna be a lot of work than I'm good tho lol, I may try to do it once I finish homework this wk 18:26 Will do, @riker! 18:27 this is not entertaining at all 18:29 <@riker> I will provide you with circus once I have consumed my bread 18:29 where did my other potiosn called fruit juice go anyway? 18:29 <@riker> you left it to sit too long, it fermented, and a dwarf snagged it 18:29 lol 18:32 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 361 points, T:1010, killed by a little dog 18:33 why can't I dilute my fruit juice in a moat, they're not finalized (slex) 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19065 18:36 killed medusa by walking upstairs with a blindfold 18:36 my dragon is wearing high boots!? 18:37 nice 18:37 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:39683 18:39 ouch, displaced my cat into a moat 18:39 Amy, the messages are in teh wrong order: "Likes cheese drowns. You displaced likes cheese." 18:39 god doesn't like that 18:39 I got no message from any god. 18:40 maybe the devil's god likes it, who knows 18:40 did you not feel guilty? 18:41 maybe I should pray and find out, could end the misery of no proper id, no proper diluting, and no proper altar buc testing (what with the altar vanishing) 18:41 nope 18:41 in vanilla that's -15 alignment and an angry god 18:41 you dont feel guilty about killing your pet? 18:41 I remember it being bad in vanilla 18:41 you monster 18:41 well, a devil is a monster, no? 18:41 in almost all variants 18:41 playing transvestite devil 18:42 I got no message, is all 18:42 I feel sad that I accidentally did it though, I likeed the cat 18:42 may i say you look stunning in that corset and stockings 18:42 lol, does that mean you're charmed and a pet now? ;P 18:42 oh yes please 18:43 Ok, team up with the weirdo girls and get your sword ready, you're doing the fighting. 18:43 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6960 points, T:2121, killed by a giant zombie 18:43 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 45628 points, T:3181, killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted angry watch lieutenant) 18:43 (I got 2 female @ pets.) 18:43 ahuh ahuh ahuh you said sword 18:43 I dropped a longsowrd over there if you don't have one. 18:44 oh you really meant sword. ok 18:44 lol 18:44 in ruggo's, what else could I mean? 18:44 well there's meatswords... 18:44 ok, my female F pet picked up the long sword and wielded it 18:45 what was that weirdo command about monsters again? The jenniver infantry 18:45 an F with normal speed even 18:46 !@lg or something? 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 142244 points, T:19620, crushed to death by a collapsing drawbridge 18:48 okay 18:48 that's how drawbridges work 18:49 ouch! 18:49 that sucks 18:49 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 18:49 you're definitely not the first though 18:50 i thought the force bolt just blew the drawbridge up 18:50 not opened it, then destroyed 18:50 well, it would work if you're not too close. 18:50 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 18:50 yeah you gotta be one more step away and then Fbolt it 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased wand of death", on T:40204 18:55 <@Togue the Toeist> oof 18:55 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:42314 18:56 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:42316 18:56 and then genocided class L again 18:56 just for good measure 18:57 evilhack. blessed genocide only takes out two 18:57 not necessarily the most dangerous two 18:57 ah extra evil then 18:57 <@Togue the Toeist> thats even more evil 18:57 in this case, the first one only got liches and deniliches 18:58 <@Togue the Toeist> are there new kinds of liches in evil? 18:58 no, but there are vampire mages and hill giant shamans 18:58 those are just as bad 18:59 does evilhack have the vampire genocide glitch fixed 18:59 <@Togue the Toeist> what is said glitch? 18:59 it's current 3.6.2 base, so yes 18:59 that's good 19:00 the vampire genocide glitch was where if you genocided vampires 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh4] dValk2 (disbtopia) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 33509 points, T:3551, killed by a jaguar 19:00 any shapeshifted vampires weren't affected 19:00 you got eternal vampires 19:00 and then those shapeshifted vampires were immortal after returning to base form 19:01 and in 3.6.0, all vampires start out shapeshifted 19:01 except vlad 19:01 ofc in vanilla you shouldn't really be genociding vampires anyway... 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41010 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41017 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3983 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:41061 19:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) genocided hill giant shaman, on T:42319 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:41126 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:41130 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4471 19:09 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:41832 19:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:41983 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] xelfe (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 529 points, T:1940, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a potion 19:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:42253 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:42271 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11037 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:42319 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2115634 points, T:42336, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/nethack/dumplog/1557690414.nh.txt 19:33 congratulations, rebatela! 19:34 <@Togue the Toeist> congrats rebatela! 19:35 <@Togue the Toeist> may i ask you some tips on running monk? 19:35 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:36 thanks and sure ! 19:36 you mean in general? 19:36 <@Togue the Toeist> yea 19:37 you don't really need a weapon. they are really good at martial arts and start with or get early intrinsic speed and stealth which helps a lot 19:37 they can get basic in every spell school 19:37 so i basically play them like a wizard (only not really because they are actually good fighters especially in early game) 19:38 <@Togue the Toeist> "gameplay-wise" how should i run em? 19:38 and their starting robe helps a ton (for some reason robe helps monks more than it helps other roles) 19:38 <@Togue the Toeist> and wdym "like a wizard"? 19:38 i mean I cast lots of spells 19:38 <@Togue the Toeist> (benefit over all their limitations i guess) 19:38 magic missile, charm monster 19:38 any spell really (polymorph ) 19:39 <@Togue the Toeist> how'd you go as finding spellboks for those? 19:39 they have a 1/3 chance of starting with the sleep spell, whiich really helps 19:39 the only thing to be concerned about is the body armour penalty 19:40 <@Shin Umbygashima> Starting robe helps more since you're so focused on spellcasting on account of not having to fall back on armor/weapons 19:40 and master kaen 19:40 yeah. you don't wear armor at all unless you want to in the late game 19:40 But you start with robe and +2 gloves. So buy protection early and often from a priest and it's not that big of a deal 19:40 <@Togue the Toeist> ill still not reach him probs, but how do i deal with mah boi kaen 19:41 i don't play vanilla enough to know, but in the variants even in late game you can't hit reliably wearing body armour, even with maxed stats 19:41 yeah it depends. I've been really high level, high dex and luck and not been able to hit before.. sometimes i can 19:41 i rarely wear body armor. But sometimes I will if I find SDSM or something and I'm level 30 with maxed stats 19:42 But this game I just ascended -34AC w/out body armor... you don't really need it. Although you do lose that slot for reflection/MR that you get from DSM 19:43 monks are super fun. If you aren't going for the vegan conduct, it's not a big deal to eat corpses either.... It says 'You feel guilty" but I think it's only a 1 pt hit on the alignment so if you are killing things it balances it out... If you're playing pacifist or something, it's a different story 19:44 also, and I didn't realize this for a while- The starting food is aweome for training pets (fortune cookies for dogs and cats, apples and oranges for horses) 19:45 <@Togue the Toeist> the penalty is even good for not getting crowned 19:45 also monks starting with a marker 20% of the time so that can really help with the AC 19:45 <@Togue the Toeist> miss me with that restore ab. 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1256 points, T:2942, killed by a hobbit 19:46 <@Togue the Toeist> how should i go as for blessing items? 19:46 <@Togue the Toeist> basically hoard water and yadda yadda holy water dip? 19:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> I mean apparently Restore ab. can re-level you 19:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> in 3.6.2 19:46 <@Togue the Toeist> oh yeah 19:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> so it's not as redundant now 19:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> Actually semi-desirable 19:47 <@Togue the Toeist> gotta weigh it out with the prayer timeout tho 19:47 i had weaponless going until 20k turns or so and was JUST about to put pickaxe in my bag and i hit something 19:47 I usualy don't use a weapon at all playing monks. I got Magicbane (which i like) so i used it. But normally I would have just stayed with the martial arts 19:47 <@Togue the Toeist> oof 19:48 But like i was saying, magic missle at lvl 30 is your friend (much like what wizards can do ) 19:48 and I love casting poly at 0% fail. I think that's why i play them really lol 19:50 <@Togue the Toeist> so, anything else important in general? 19:50 <@Togue the Toeist> nad early to mid-game i usually struggle, how should i proceed? 19:52 <@Togue the Toeist> kinda asking "how should i play all of it" 19:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12421 19:55 hmmm. I'm trying to think. I really think it's a great role actually. I'm not as good as most of the people on here and I ascend monks regularly. I used to think it was supposed to be a really hard role?? But at least for me, i find them "easy" relative to others 19:55 might just be my play style though 19:56 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 19:56 Try to find a magic whistle and the charm monster spell if you like pets. That can help a lot 19:56 <@riker> monks are definitely harder than a valkryie ofc 19:56 true 19:56 <@riker> but they're definitely easier than archeologists or mid/early-game tourists 19:57 <@Togue the Toeist> i mostly play rogue wiz and monk 19:57 <@Togue the Toeist> see myself struggling on the early to mid when you start building up your equipment and stuff 19:58 the monk quest used to be hard but now (if you're not opposed to it) you can drop a scroll of scare monster on the upstair and just slap him to death 19:59 so if i have a marker, I usually try to save enough charges to write the scroll so i can do the quest when i reach 14 19:59 <@Togue the Toeist> still works on 3.6.2? 19:59 then you have slotless magic resistance from the eyes 19:59 yes 19:59 <@Togue the Toeist> nice 20:00 you just need to be careful and have some escape item because if you fall through to master kaen's lair and you're not on the stairs/don't have the scroll ready to drop, it's game over 20:00 (lots of traps) 20:01 -!- Frederic has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:02 <@Togue the Toeist> basically being careful and slapping the man down with a ?oSM ? 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:42500 20:35 * NCommander deep exhales 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:12629 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:939 20:54 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 20:55 is there a way to turn off auto-feel when blind? there's a few rubber-chickens on the ground and I have no gloves... 20:55 (in soko) 20:55 I think when you hit m before moving, you won't check what's on the floor. but not sure about blind (I know it turns off autopickup) 20:55 Mickmane: ok - I'll try that - thx 20:56 I hope it works, would hate to be responsible for stoning! 20:56 <@Tone> Yes that is true 20:57 <@Tone> Although I'd personally still be too paranoid to rely on it 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3306 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3333 21:00 stay away from me, mumak 21:02 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4321 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an iron golem, on T:4389 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7806 points, T:4390, quit 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12159 21:27 <@luxidream> I think my tentative tier list goes = val > bar > sam > kni > ran > pri > cav > wiz > mon > rog > hea > tou > arc 21:28 <@Shin Umbygashima> I had that same problem last Sokoban attempt too 21:28 <@Shin Umbygashima> Thankfully Arc = stealth = can clear out a fair bit without waking everyone 21:29 <@luxidream> stealth isn't relevant outside of areas like zoos or throne rooms 21:29 <@luxidream> and elven boots/cloak are easy to find 21:29 <@luxidream> arcs just have the worst starting gear and bad str/con 21:29 I like the pickaxe 21:30 <@Shin Umbygashima> And the mines have mattocks 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 302 points, T:1004, killed by a bolt of lightning 21:30 two-handed 21:30 <@Shin Umbygashima> I said arc specifically because that's what I last reached with 21:30 <@Shin Umbygashima> :vv: 21:31 <@luxidream> reached what? sokoban? 21:31 <@Shin Umbygashima> Yeah 21:31 <@Shin Umbygashima> Arc is my current class of choice, because digging 21:31 <@Shin Umbygashima> And having to actually think out monster encounters somewhat 21:32 <@luxidream> yeah it's the worst one in my opinion, but certainly not the least fun 21:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> (In a relatice sense) 21:32 if I remember right, arc can do divine spells well: identify! 21:32 <@luxidream> glares at healer 21:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> Ye 21:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> They can 21:32 <@Shin Umbygashima> Also touchstones 21:32 <@luxidream> first you have to find identify 21:32 true 21:32 pffft, details. ;P 21:33 getting a weapon for healer is a PITA - but overall, I agree with that ranking 21:34 <@Shin Umbygashima> Mines can satisy a lot of the armor needs, and lugging all that shit around lends itself to con training some 21:34 <@luxidream> healer gets a solid amount of HP 21:34 <@Shin Umbygashima> Plus boulder pushing is always there 21:34 <@Shin Umbygashima> The starting rolls can be all over the place though 21:34 <@Shin Umbygashima> Oh man tinning 21:35 tou (my favorite role) isn't 2nd hardest imho (it's higher up the rankings with the +2 darts, camera, and being able to use any equip) 21:35 but arch is rough - haven't ascended that one yet 21:35 <@luxidream> I think it's decent too, but it's definitely below rogue, and monk has a good early game 21:35 <@luxidream> that's why it is where it is 21:36 ya - rogue daggers rock 21:36 way back early 2000s, I ascended all roles, then started again with the first (wiz), in the middle of a back-to-back series. Next one (valk) ended that streak 21:36 <@Shin Umbygashima> Tourist takes bigbrain 21:37 Tourist is the most flexible role - can use practically any l00t that comes up 21:37 [hdf-us] [4k] Chorkenson (taterbizkit) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2352 points, T:1139, quit 21:38 <@Shin Umbygashima> You don't start with 'much' but get creative and you'll probably have a solid suite of options 21:38 <@Shin Umbygashima> Conversely trickier somewhat if you're committed to a particular bit 21:38 <@luxidream> I think wizard is the most flexible actually 21:38 <@Shin Umbygashima> Oh overall, no doubt 21:39 <@luxidream> wizard is everyone's favorite role 21:40 early MR is a huge advantage 21:40 and expert daggers (in addition to starting spells/equip) 21:40 doesn't come to my mind when I think of wizard. I think SPELLS! 21:41 and of course, MB as first gift 21:41 my pet's doing the fighting. 21:41 <@luxidream> what are those? 21:41 lol 21:41 I find fighting with a weapon rather boring. 21:41 I even turned my valk (first one) into a spellcaster. 21:42 <@luxidream> honestly other roguelikes do spellcasting a lot better than nethack, so I go to those for my casting needs 21:42 <@luxidream> like DCSS 21:42 weapons more exciting with Cleaver or Stormbringer (as they require caution) 21:42 <@luxidream> here in nethack we have muscle wizards 21:42 they didn't ruin crawl completely with the developement? 21:43 <@luxidream> I dunno, I think it's a fun game? 21:43 <@luxidream> I only started a couple months ago 21:43 I remember some dude who did it, Brent or so, being pro-fighters, anti-spellcasters 21:43 I played it before stonesoup, early 2000s 21:43 <@luxidream> oh yeah I have no idea how it's changed since then 21:43 <@luxidream> but casters still work, I mean, how else do you play Fe/Op 21:44 I like a horde of pets, so some summoner transmuter with a horde of tentacled monstrosities and abominations = fun! 21:44 what was that again? 21:44 <@luxidream> oh XXX? 21:44 <@luxidream> summon horrible things? 21:44 yeah 21:45 <@luxidream> My favorite summon spell is mana vipers 21:45 does that do nagas? I remember having a horde of nagas, too 21:45 <@luxidream> It summons mana vipers that have an antimagic bite 21:45 <@luxidream> so it works great against panlords, etc 21:45 back when you could summon them with equipment and kill them for it, or something. (I think Brent insisted it didn't work, it was some bug he claimed he fixed anyway, not sure which, which wasn't fixed.) 21:46 I don't remember panlords 21:46 the most scary monster in any game ever, was a pale 1 (executioner) 21:46 <@luxidream> pandemonium didn't exist then? 21:46 not just crawl, but ANY game 21:46 <@luxidream> must have been a long time ago 21:46 oh, it did 21:46 but I don't remember monsters that well. 21:47 I also didn't go there much. I remember the last game I seemed to be stsuck, finding no escape. 21:47 <@luxidream> there's a unique executioner now 21:47 <@luxidream> he's pretty scary 21:47 I wonder if that's cool or terrifying 21:47 <@luxidream> but regular executioners are pretty manageable 21:47 wonder if they changed. Are they not uber fast now? 21:47 <@luxidream> @??executioner 21:47 ?executioner ~1~ Executioner (@) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 35 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire cold poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 60 | Generates: unique | AC: -2 | Attacks: 5d10 weapon physical, 5d10 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, swims, regenerates, seeinvis, nopoly, infravisible 21:47 <@luxidream> hm, cerebot isn't in here 21:48 <@luxidream> speed 20 21:48 <@luxidream> they are still crazy fast 21:48 <@luxidream> Executioner (1) | Spd: 20 | HD: 12 | HP: 53-78 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 30, 10, 10 | 21:49 that sounds pretty mean (I don't remember stats of anything, can't compare) 21:49 <@luxidream> if you're encountering them in the extended endgame you should be more than prepared 21:49 that was 15+ years ago... 21:49 <@luxidream> but yeah crawl is still a fun game 21:50 <@luxidream> it's a lot shorter than nethack too 21:50 <@luxidream> at least 3 runes. it takes me like 3-4 hours to get all runes 21:50 I don't remember runes 21:51 could be it's new, could be I forgot. I remember some orb to run off with. 21:51 <@luxidream> to run off with the orb you need 3 keys 21:52 keys sounds vaguely familiar, but could be from slashem 21:52 I know slashem has those aligned keys 22:04 [hdf-us] [4k] Chorkenson (taterbizkit) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5985 points, T:1331, killed by a gnome 22:05 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:15053 22:18 [hdf-us] [4k] Jarablom (taterbizkit) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2646 points, T:1312, killed by a bugbear 22:18 [hdf-us] [slshm] KaiHerd (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 7976 points, T:4097, killed by a baby blue dragon 22:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8657 22:22 [hdf-us] [4k] Jorb (taterbizkit) (Bar Dwa Mal Law), 783 points, T:436, killed by a scroll of earth 22:23 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:26 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 shield of reflection", on T:14550 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 10119 points, T:6103, killed by a plains centaur 22:38 [hdf-us] [4k] Juuoma (taterbizkit) (Cav Orc Fem Cha), 3630 points, T:1859, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food 22:42 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:15851 23:03 ok - helm of opposite alignment - if, as a Cha Wiz, I've finished my quest, could I turn Law and dip for Excalibur? (and keep the MB)? 23:04 but I'd have to keep that helm on all the time to able to hold Excal, I think... 23:04 maybe poly-self and eat the helm? 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:19450 23:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:41 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:36195 23:43 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Kopasker the invisible shopkeeper on T:36308 23:43 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Maganasipi on T:36362 23:44 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Annootok on T:36516 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17684 23:44 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Sipaliwini on T:36614 23:45 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Brienz on T:36891 23:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non) wished for "blessed +3 fireproof Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:10930 23:57 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Matagami on T:39248