00:10 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:11 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3663 points, T:3690, killed by a giant ant, while praying 00:24 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:62986 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1447 00:33 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Cthulhu, on T:63458 00:52 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65024 01:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh13d] jackk225 (Arc Mal), 50 points, T:37, leprechaun 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh13d] jackk225 (Tou Mal), 93 points, T:86, imp 01:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 210 points, T:694, killed by a coyote 01:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 66 points, T:115, killed by a fox 01:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 129 points, T:354, killed by a poisonous corpse 01:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 106 points, T:200, killed by a jackal 01:37 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 01:38 Morning. :) 01:40 Hey 01:40 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 01:40 He never greets me. Hiya Andrio. :) 01:40 Mm 01:40 I guess it isn't morning for him. 01:43 He doesn't react to Hiya either. 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh4] hValk1 (yann) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 46402 points, T:10453, killed by a Ms. Pervari, the shopkeeper 02:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 603 points, T:1330, killed by an acid blob 02:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Hlf Fem Non), 223 points, T:137, killed by a fox 02:05 <@Shin Umbygashima> Hi Andy 02:13 Hi, Shin 02:24 <@Shin Umbygashima> How's tricks 02:25 Bags of tricks are kinda fun, yeah. Especially for a tourist. 02:25 bbiab 02:25 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 02:41 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 02:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 102 points, T:945, killed by a jackal 02:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 12 points, T:146, killed by a sewer rat 02:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (lich), on T:183 03:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Clk Fem Non), 196 points, T:824, killed by a dwarf 03:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:27207 03:31 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 03:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 369614 points, T:29748, killed by Master Kaen, while paralyzed by a monster 03:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> Oh wow, that's fucking garbage 03:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> RIP 04:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Hum Fem Non), 1115 points, T:1663, killed by a jackal 04:18 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3456 04:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2174 points, T:4041, killed by a killer bee 04:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 183 points, T:450, killed by a sewer rat 04:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] DishOfTheDay (Val Hum Fem Neu), 430 points, T:731, killed by a dwarf 04:56 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 05:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 190 points, T:451, killed by a newt 05:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 4 points, T:67, killed by a jackal 05:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 30 points, T:179, killed by a jackal 05:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 192 points, T:768, killed by Ms. Wirix, the shopkeeper 05:44 I didn't know they did that 05:44 *sigh* 05:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 90 points, T:76, killed by a jackal 05:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> Shit, that's unfortunate el 05:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> How'd it happen? 05:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 66 points, T:184, killed by a small orcish dagger 06:00 so i got through to thr original zapm author, were gunna grt it relicensed as proper floss! 06:01 (neither it or primerl was actually open source by OSI's definition) 06:03 tbh i dont understand how primerl is even licensed at all, given its forked some something that did not have an explicity license 06:04 its unfortunatelt aladin public license, which is not compatible with most other open source locenses out there 06:10 <@Shin Umbygashima> tfw toss a junk item onto a trap to stop a pet playing with it and it hovers around the trap and eventually splats itself 06:11 Splat! 06:16 winny: cool, there's no better floss than open source floss 06:16 :) 06:17 this also means it'll be clear what licensing terms patches can take on 06:17 or further improvements 06:18 I have to say, I liked 0.6.x better. it was smaller, shorter and more to the point. 0.8.0 expanded it too much for my taste 06:19 hmm, i never compared the versions, that's an interesting review 06:21 quite a few changes https://github.com/winny-/ZAPM-mirror/commit/59f9c06d58d30534ec9960a1344d146094d53180 06:22 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 06:26 Hiya. 06:26 i'll give a little anecdote... i tried to convince the author of tsl to relcinse to something that allows modification and redistribution (aka any open source really), and was not as successful. Author was too embarassed with his code (nah, it was pretty good actually) 06:31 did you tell him to look at Nethack code? 06:31 I'm told that's pretty spaghetti 06:32 or even flying spaghetti monster code? :) 06:32 there's a lot of interactions 06:32 thankfully there is an effort to adopt some c99 features 06:33 might make nh code a bit easier to work on 06:33 I have no idea what c99 means, sorry. 06:35 it's a standard for the programming language nethack is written in, from '99 06:35 winny: the expansion of items and stuff was fine but the dungeon was made to big for my taste and IIRC now you have to visit several branches to be able to win? 06:35 Amy, I thought to ask google, and look what I found: 06:36 https://sourceforge.net/p/slashem/mailman/message/2446716/ 06:36 would it be accurate that the game length in zapm 0.6.x is a lot shorter? 06:37 ah, I only know it's c+ or c++, and wouldn't know the difference between them either. 06:37 no worries, c: 06:39 winny: yes 06:42 NCommander, I found the level I sent you to decompile, via google, on sourceforge. 06:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 160 points, T:809, killed by a jackal 07:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 0 points, T:16, killed by a parrot of Thoth 07:02 <@Shin Umbygashima> til trapped chests can outright explode 07:08 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 07:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] tizakit (Val Dwa Fem Law), 218 points, T:715, killed by a Mordor orc 07:59 -!- stennowork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] kdg (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 426 points, T:1298, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf 08:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] kdg (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1100 08:17 [hdf-us] [un] robotumus (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1371 points, T:1387, killed by a rabid rat 08:18 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 08:19 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 08:22 [hdf-us] [slex] robotumus (Cha Pol Fem Cha), 54 points, T:305, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 08:41 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 12733 points, T:455, killed by a goblin 08:46 morning 08:47 👋🏻 08:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> Hi N 09:05 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 36480 points, T:4065, killed by a goblin 09:05 NCommander, did you see, no need to decompile the NHUSHARE anymore. 09:06 I had the strange idea to ask google, and tataa! it found it for me on sourceforge 09:06 who would have thought? 09:06 also, hi NCommander, how do you feel today? 09:06 * NCommander is waking up slowly 09:07 tired, and groggy 09:07 I know the feeling of waking up slowly 09:07 what about the leg and the cold you mentioned earlier? 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:37306 09:11 about fucking time 09:12 hehe, don't complain. :) 09:12 he gave me three daggers, a slippery cloak, and some fumbling gloves first 09:12 You know, back when I first started playing Nethack, I found the Faith in the Really Nice Giver. All good comes from Him, all bad is my fault. Works great transfered to other games too. 09:12 so yes, i'm complaining 09:12 I'm always happy with the RNG. He rewards it! 09:13 hey, you're playing evil hack, so it's your fault. ;P 09:13 too true 09:15 whoa hothraxxa you got fumbling gloves? I guess in theory that means speed boots are possible too. 09:16 yeah. weren't even dragonhide 09:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:16 so what do you think of evilhack now that you've ascended? 09:17 iirc anhur gave me a dragonhide cloak once 09:18 hothraxxa: I think as an orc barb I had it fairly easy. 09:18 poison resistance, sickness resistance after quest 09:19 unfortunately you need sickness resistance way more before the quest 09:20 did you take on demogorgon? 09:20 I can't begin to imagine what all those priests summoning locusts all over tthe place would be like. 09:20 cure sickness is a highly desirable spell 09:21 also, tooled horn ftw 09:21 Yeah I tried to fight him but he kept stunning me then running away to the upstair before I could get more than 1-2 hits, so I eventually paralysed and stoned him. 09:21 but with sickness res he didn't seem like too much of a threat. 09:22 that certainly would have helped 09:22 i guess orc barbs aren't much at casting 09:23 I read a bunchc of spellbooks, but even without the GoP, with a robe, and a +4ish helm of brilliance, I don't think I got anythihng below 80% 09:24 i are a orc wizzard 09:24 Without the robe it was 100% across the board, so no I did not cast one single spell in the whole game. 09:24 not even for confusion? 09:24 Oh yeah I did that. 09:24 which of course is not casting a spell, it's failing to cast a spell 09:25 -!- stenno has quit [Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 09:25 -!- stennowork is now known as stenno 09:25 I also used ^T a bit 09:25 -!- Guest44038 has joined #hardfought 09:25 that's magic. not sure it's a spell as such 09:26 but yeah I gave up on saccing for an artifact after about 8 useless gifts. 09:26 anyway would you play again outside of junethack? 09:27 I think the inability to get artifacts, the partial resistances, and the lack of any other source of permanent see-invisible tend to railroad you towards crowning. 09:28 agreed 09:28 It feels like there's less choice of strategy than in vanilla. 09:28 i went for it as soon as i could in my healer game. not in this one, yet 09:28 yes, and the monsters are tougher 09:29 Of course for a barb, you forego Cleaver and get Stormbringer instead, so it's no great loss. For a wizard you really do want MagicBane. 09:29 Tangles, how many variants have you tried? 09:29 i also want stormy 09:29 so the sacfest isn't over 09:29 dual-wield artifacts is a thing 09:29 Though it it takes you 37k turns to get it... you probably don't really need it as much by that stage. 09:29 oh wait i'm a dumb wizard. nm 09:30 i like stormy for drain resistance 09:30 it's a really useful early-midgame weapon (MB) 09:31 Stormy is really good right up until you get flayed on astral and accidentally read enchant weapon thinking it's charging. *poof* 09:31 i'm already at 37k turns and haven't started the quest 09:31 yeah i saw you mention that :( 09:31 i wonder how many turns have gone into door-checking 09:32 Fortunately I was about a dozen steps to the goal, and I had plenty of tele charges left. 09:32 -!- stenno is now known as stennowork 09:32 Mickmane: Umm... .several. 09:32 who flayed you on astral? 09:32 Just a MMF. Made me forget all my scrolls. 09:32 oh. i don't have those anymore 09:33 This was after the amulet got stolen and I didn't notice until I was standing on the altar at the "what do you want to offer" prompt. 09:33 Wondering if you could narrow down the list of available variants to ones that: don't restrict quest by alignment, let me pric-id/use id reliably, has an interesting gehennom, free role/race choice, that's just what comes to mind on the spot. 09:34 xnethack 09:34 will look for it on wiki or somewhere. Thanks :) 09:34 i'm not sure what you mean by that first criterion 09:35 well, that I can accidentally or deliberately change alignment pre-quest without making the game unsolvable 09:35 xnethack is a 3.6 variant, lvl10 quest entry, many qol improvements 09:35 and he handles that 09:35 you can kill the quest leader 09:35 found the wiki page 09:35 cool! 09:35 imo it's the best variant right now 09:36 It's here on hardfought, right? looks like something to play when my slex char meets one or the other end :) 09:36 cool 09:36 yes 09:36 -!- oleum has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:36 hothraxxa: to answer your question earlier, yeah I think I would give evilhack another run outside Junethack. 09:36 masochist 09:36 I'll definitely have a go at it during. 09:37 lol at masochist 09:37 of course, here i am still playing it 09:37 (assuming it is part of the tournament) 09:37 this would be an easy win in any other variant 09:37 i'm still highly vulnerable to a splat in evil 09:38 thanks hothraxxa 09:38 * Mickmane is afk making coffee now 09:38 no problem. i think you'll like xn 09:41 ;) 09:41 -!- oleum has joined #hardfought 09:47 [hdf-us] [slex] robotumus (Pok Mou Fem Cha), 1281 points, T:1104, escaped 09:49 aw, wiki says xnethack has no spell of id 09:50 <@Shin Umbygashima> Wiki can be wrong sometimes, but then it's a wiki 09:50 <@Shin Umbygashima> meaning people can correct 09:50 <@Shin Umbygashima> is there really no identify spell though? 09:51 It also says "the Mitre of Holiness is removed" why? 09:52 "Remove all sources and effects of amnesia." that's nice 09:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:57 the id spell isn't necessary. the way xn id works is actually nice imo 09:57 you always know what you'll get, and you just adjust your game accordingly 09:57 i have never missed it 09:58 how do I know what I'll get? 09:58 i don't know about the mitre, i forget the reasoning there 09:58 cursed is always 1 (like vanilla) unlblessed is always 4, and blessed is always 7 09:58 a nice helmet replaced by a not nice mace for priest quest, hm... 09:58 it's SO a nice mace 09:58 aw, no random entire inventory? 09:59 no but you own't miss it, trust me 09:59 <-- sceptre of might fan 09:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> Mitre is cool but something like the mace sorta fits just as well if not better 10:00 I wish for the sceptre with lawful priests 10:00 Mickmane: you'll find that you don't haord scrolls of id to bless 10:00 and you will never get a blessed scroll that identifies only one item 10:01 <@Shin Umbygashima> that's so dumb tbf 10:01 highly annoying behaviour 10:01 <@Shin Umbygashima> lmao 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh4] maxana (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 54005 points, T:18078, killed by an invisible stalker 10:02 in xn, you should use scrolls of id as soon as you have four unidentified items 10:02 why not wait until you have 7 and bless them? 10:02 (the scrolls, not the items) 10:03 or are they so plentiful? 10:03 because you seldom need to identify 7 at once, although i think ppl tend to do that 10:03 id is always plentiful 10:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 309 points, T:557, killed by a fox 10:04 id is generated more often than any other scroll, twice as often as the next most common 10:05 almost 1 in 5 i think 10:05 yes. 18% 10:05 glass always shatters, says wiki, does that mean I can id glass gems by throwing? 10:06 ah. i don't think so 10:06 never tried 10:06 aww 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Bin Dro Fem Non), 70 points, T:128, killed by a sewer rat 10:07 the object material stuff sounds cool 10:07 <@Shin Umbygashima> glass ITEMS always shatter 10:07 <@Shin Umbygashima> pieces of glass don't 10:08 <@Shin Umbygashima> so stuff like crystal wands and mail will break if, say, dropped down stairs 10:08 <@Shin Umbygashima> or while levitating 10:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:08 then I should at least get a pile of colour glass from a shattered glass sword, for example 10:08 wands will. i don't think plate mail does 10:09 beware useful gold items. leprechauns will steal them 10:09 hah, nice 10:09 <@Shin Umbygashima> I've had plate mail break from them falling down stairs at least once before iirc 10:10 <@Shin Umbygashima> also it'd be nice if they didn't suck dicks to carry around 10:10 then i stand corrected 10:10 does stuff break from dropping them while flying, too? 10:10 no 10:10 <@Shin Umbygashima> not all stuff 10:10 nice. I guess with riding a dragon, it depends on riding skill and whether you can reach the floor or not 10:10 i'm flying right now in evilhack 10:10 <@Shin Umbygashima> yeah, probably something like that 10:11 <@Shin Umbygashima> since flight implies you can just float down and set it on the ground 10:11 exactly 10:11 [hdf-us] [slex] robotumus (Fai Col Fem Cha), 358 points, T:717, killed by a monster (rabbit) 10:11 if you couldn't, there would be no difference between flying and levitation 10:12 you can fly downstairs, for example 10:13 but if you have no skill in riding, you can't reach the floor and potions shatter when you drop them, I think, while with I think at least basic(?) skill, you can reach the floor and put down potions without worry 10:13 same with #dipping while over a bit of water 10:13 while riding a flying monster, I mean 10:14 yeah, i'm wearing an amulet of flying 10:14 (not sure if it also applies to non-flying mounts) 10:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:19 further down on the same page it says "The Mitre of Holiness is now special-cased to silver." guess it doesn't know what it said further up. 10:19 feel free to adjust 10:19 me? I wouldn't know which is true, plus, I don't like making new accounts. 10:20 it could be a sequential log of changes 10:21 *a result of 10:22 anyway, you'll need to learn the glyph remapping 10:22 I would try playing with tiles, though I already don't like the square font I found on nao. 10:32 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:33 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 10:42 lol a floating eye death-dropped a blindfold 10:42 (and left a corpse) 10:43 nice! 10:44 xnethack: "Dropping a ring down a sink has an 80% chance of being buried beneath it, rather than 20%" Does that mean digging up the sink can get me back my lost rings? 10:44 yes 10:44 or kicking it enough 10:44 yes, 80% of the time 10:44 cool! 10:44 wow, kikcing, too, yay 10:44 I like kicking sinks :) 10:44 yeah sinks are a good way of iding rings in xnh 10:45 potions too, it seems. 10:45 <@Shin Umbygashima> sink kicking is fun tbh 10:45 not even in nethack just irl 10:45 I have no rings and finger rings won't fit my sinks here. 10:46 well, I wear no rings, I mgiht have some buried somewhere (in a cardboard box from moving, or wherever, who knows) 10:46 won't fit the hole down the drain I mean 10:46 YASI: you can apply an iron chain to a ring in order to yank on it to retrieve it from a sink 10:47 haha, nice! 10:47 though I guess the iron chain would be too thick 10:47 YANI, sinks have a 1% chance to contain a singularity that sucks you in when you drop things on it, and it'll levelport you to any level you've already visited 10:47 maybe you could use an amulet (aka necklace) 10:47 all randomly generated sinks have a ring 10:47 in xnethack 10:47 haha, winny 10:47 oh, nice! 10:49 "Tins, or rather their labels, can be read. 1/5 of tins will honestly tell the type of monster they contain; the rest lie or give funny messages. Player-made tins are not labeled." why are player-made tins not labelled? 10:50 no labelmaker 10:50 I thought that came with the tinning kit 10:50 so, I'd have to name them? 10:50 i suppose you could name them and then read them back later for bedtime reading 10:50 I mean, how do I know what my tins are, I just do without a label? 10:50 whut? why would oyu name them? 10:51 to know what's in it 200000 turns later 10:51 YANI: label printer that allows you to engrave with, but with the catch that it's better than an athame for writing elbereth 10:51 <@Shin Umbygashima> player-made tins = you know their contents 10:51 well, that one's a tin of floating eye, and this one is a tine of giant meat 10:51 <@Shin Umbygashima> = no point in reading them 10:51 ah, ok 10:51 winny, I like that 10:52 slex prolly has it already 10:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> and if you're worried about forgetting what they are because you got cocky with a mindflayer, just call em individually 10:52 all sources of amnesia forgotten 10:52 amnesia was removed from xnethack 10:52 hi 10:52 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 10:52 I'm reading https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/XNetHack 10:52 * K2 pets Beholder 10:52 hiya 10:53 Beholder never greets me 10:53 aloha 10:53 Hello hothraxxa, Welcome to #hardfought 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10058 points, T:5116, killed by a crocodile 10:53 hothraxxa I think i'm going to have another look at the sacrifice code 10:53 heh 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2 points, T:33, killed by a sewer rat 10:54 "Random tins can be prepared as "gourmet foo", which gives 350 nutrition." even a tin with cockatrice in it? 10:54 might be an idea, but i'm not asking you to. i can live with it 10:54 well its been a concern of mine too 10:54 well you get 350 nutrition and stoned at the same time 10:54 i read all the backscroll from last night to now 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 24 points, T:109, killed by a grid bug 10:54 sort of like has gummy bears 10:54 hothraxxa, ok :) 10:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> what thrax said 10:54 hash 10:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> same as everything else, just stoned after 10:54 hothraxxa I think you'll enjoy 0.3.2 more once its released 10:55 first i have to finish this wizard 10:55 i just hope i don't splat 10:55 i dont want to go live with it until NCommander does his bit with sokoban 10:55 yeah that one needs fixing 10:55 been knocking out smaller bugs and tweaking things in the meantime 10:56 i'm not sure the soko thing is just evilhack 10:56 but wishing/sac code i am looking at again today 10:56 hothraxxa prob not 10:56 grunthack would have the same issues 10:56 -!- Guest44038 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:56 my thinking precisely 10:57 and i think fourk is the other one but i might be getting confused 10:57 but honestly, unless its a critical bug fix, i'm pretty much done working on grunthack and sporkhack 10:57 but your crime is keeping them on life support 10:57 power off the machines! 10:57 have mercy! 10:57 no i like grunt 10:57 never 10:58 not so much spork 10:58 they'll still be maintained, just for bug fixes 10:58 but now that evilhack is a thing, my fous is on that 10:58 focus 10:58 that and tnnt 10:58 argh! 10:58 july i start getting busy again with tnnt :P 10:58 stupid giant 10:59 :/ 10:59 fyi thoth sent an avenging angel when i converted his altar. i hate angel mm 10:59 good 10:59 aw raisse, how mean 10:59 it was a bit much for the level i was at the time (xl9) 10:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> Begone Thoth! 10:59 not really 10:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> Also jesus, boulder to the face? 10:59 yes really 10:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> also which variant is this again 11:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> because unless chameleon dickery idk how you're getting lv9 giants 11:00 likely a boulder trap 11:00 no, it was a giant throwing it 11:01 oh. well duck faster 11:01 oh you said stupid giant. i missed that 11:01 I suspect a poly trap and a random boulder 11:02 poly traps should equip with starting invetory, i say 11:02 hothraxxa: you got unlucky with the minions 11:02 i know 11:02 its not always an angel 11:02 hit me with mm once and i was under 50% hp even with reflection 11:03 i should throw a woodchuck in there 11:03 as a minion? 11:03 yeah 11:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> polytrapped into giant, then finds rng boulder and picks it up, then you discover that same boulder 11:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> at 500 mph 11:03 nice! 11:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> is probably what happened 11:03 behold, the woodchuck of set! 11:03 bite 10d20 11:03 a dire woodchuck 11:04 The woodchuck of Set squeaks! The woodchuck of Set chucks some wood! You die... 11:04 and further down it says again "The Mitre of Holiness is removed." xnethack wiki page 11:04 * hothraxxa lol 11:04 hah 11:04 -!- Guest44038 has joined #hardfought 11:04 mickmane: it's gone, doesn't matter what wiki says 11:04 since aosdict is the one who made the wiki page for xnethack, the info there is pretty much correct 11:05 such a shame. Is there any other artifact helm of brilliance? 11:05 nope 11:05 K2, at some place it mentiones mitre with some ability 11:05 well... best way to find out is to play I suppose 11:05 oh, I will, but right now I'm reading wiki page :) 11:05 sense of adventure and all that 11:05 and then I have my slex char to see one or the other end. :) 11:06 hm, not a fan of adventure. :) 11:06 what are you doing in the dungeons then? 11:06 first 1200 hours of Terraria, half of them I spent on the wiki reading stuff while the game was running 11:07 dragging things around, making neat piles with something cursed on top, taming interesting monsters,... 11:07 eating corpses 11:07 oh, and that, yes 11:08