00:11 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Ticonderoga No 2", on T:46887 00:26 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4442 01:12 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 778 points, T:1973, killed by a jackal 01:13 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh4] zd32 (disbi) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 32208 points, T:5625, killed by a fire vortex 01:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:31 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh4] zd12 (disbi) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 28980 points, T:2269, killed by a giant ant 01:41 !tell Mickmane dungeon option works for me without error message, it must be somehow different in your rcfile 01:41 No worries, LarienTelrunya, I've got this! 01:42 !tell stenno you're the nhqdb admin, right? you might want to know that the page gives this message for me: Warning: Unknown: write failed: No space left on device (28) in Unknown on line 0 Warning: Unknown: Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/var/lib/php/sessions) in Unknown on line 0 (but otherwise it still displays fine) 01:42 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 01:45 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:49 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 01:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] koumakan (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1524 points, T:2272, killed by a rabid rat 01:57 also wth I can't access the hardfought.org webpage again... is it just me? page just remains blank in firefox, no error message or anything 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:59747 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12314 02:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:09 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 02:11 LarienTelrunya: I think stenno is just mod. That sounds like a server issue, so dtype or paxed need to deal with? 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 34777 points, T:12355, killed by a couatl, while praying 02:11 attie: ah, I see 02:11 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:16 yes, the server ran out of space, but it should be fixed alreadey 02:18 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:45 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:49 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 15016 points, T:7493, killed by a gnome lord 02:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:03 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:13 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] zd31 (disbi) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 39497 points, T:5595, killed by a giant spider 03:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:25 Why is Twoflower the same colour as his guardians? 03:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:36 -!- sodastab has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:65976 03:51 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:53 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:54 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:56 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:01 [hdf-us] [nh4] wii2 (disbi) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 34279 points, T:3637, killed by a white unicorn 04:02 Mind flayers can kill aligned priests, right? 04:04 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:05 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:17 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:18 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:66968 04:27 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 04:28 Morning. :) 04:28 Mickmane: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-14 01:41 EDT: dungeon option works for me without error message, it must be somehow different in your rcfile 04:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:67000 04:28 hi Mickmane! somehow I once again can't navigate to the hardfought page, so I can't look at your rcfile 04:29 I could email it to you, if you give me an email. 04:31 heh, send it to spamcatchmail@gmx.de - it's my throwaway email that doesn't care if it gets tons of spam :P 04:33 anyway, I don't have a spam email, so it's not for public. :) 04:33 I'm waiting for the browser to wake up, and nedd to wake up myself 04:33 what antiquated cucumber browser do you use? netscape navigator 1.0? you should upgrade to mozilla firefox :D 04:34 vivaldi, I uninstalled firefox a while ago, after testing vivaldi for a bit, after firefox got on my nerves 04:34 It's my computer that might be a bit slow. 04:35 I have some problem with bits getting too hot for my taste (watching with Speccy), but setting cpu power to 90% prevents that. 04:35 I forget to set it back up when I'm not playing something that fries my cpu. 04:35 and every time I dust the cpu fan, it makes funny noises for a while, so I dare not do that too often 04:37 btw, cucumber is new to me, I know it as potato computer. :) 04:37 never heard of vivaldi (well not in that context anyway, isn't that the name of the musician that composed "Also sprach Zarathustra"?) 04:37 heh, German "Gurkenrechner" :D 04:38 I'm clueless regarding what he may have composed. 04:38 ah! 04:38 I talk with too few germans about computers, I guess. 04:38 vivaldi is based on chrome. 04:39 supposed to be more customizable, though so far I found it less, but at least working. 04:39 oh god... my experience with chrome can be summed up as "Lag-lag-lag-lag-lag-lag-laaaaaaaaaaaaaag laglaglag lag! Lalalalalag!" :P 04:39 not looked at it. 04:40 well, it woke up faster than I. :) 04:40 how are you capable of posting while not awake? are you capable of sleepwalking? ;) 04:42 Mickmane: also tell me when you're fully awake, because I want to bundlebundlebundle you once you are :D 04:43 Oh, I'm just slow, with foggy brain. I guess you could call it not properly awake. 04:44 I don't know if I still sleepwalk, I live alone, the occasional spider in the ceiling corner doesn't tell. I remember waking up in front of a kitchen cupboard as a kid 04:44 do you have to work today? 04:44 or are you at work? 04:45 once, a couple years ago, when my roommate was still my actual roommate (I'm living alone now), she told me that the previous night I supposedly signed a birthday card for her and I had no recollection of that :D 04:45 yeah I'm in my office now 04:45 lol 04:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:46 so are you awake enough now? because I want to show you something, and I want to specifically show it to *you* because you understand german :) 04:48 I'm wondering if I should send you the file I have here at home (not fully copy-pasted to the server) or somehow get the file from the server 04:49 Oh, I take ages to wake up 04:49 I can look at what you want to show me though 04:50 well can you connect to https://www.hardfought.org/ ? if I try, the page just remains blank 04:50 and I've had that happen several times lately 04:50 hardfought works for me, got a link for my config file so I can paste it into a new file to send to you? 04:50 yeah, surprisingly it works for me these days 04:50 once I also saw a message like "wordpress is experiencing technical difficulties", I wonder if the hardfought page is powered by wordpress? 04:51 yeah having that file could help me diagnose the problem :) 04:51 and the thing I wanted to show you is one of my fanfics :D https://www.fanfiktion.de/s/54c5e78700031c161fd534d2/6/Apokalyptia-039-s-Next-Topmodel-The-New-Generation - search for "slash", because that lets you jump to the part where it's about SLEX :D 04:52 not sure how much I will get it, btw, I don't watch that show 04:52 for reading, I'll read it later. :) 04:53 heh, I no longer do either, but I wanted to advertise the slex part to you; feel free to skip to it by searching "slash" because that's where it starts ;) 04:53 I did, then noticed it's a lot of text, so putting it away for later. :) 04:53 I'm hungry. 04:53 haha :D 04:54 yeah my fanfic chapters are always getting very large; a couple weeks ago I finished my longest one so far: 202 KB! 04:54 that's, like, a 50 page chapter! who would be so crazy as to read all that? :P 04:54 a chapter long enough to be a short novel! 04:54 I wrote some speculative fiction, when I gave up on finding books that I like (after arguments on usenet - I'm allergic to arguments these days due to that)... 04:54 how do other authors manage to make short chapters, I'm wondering? 04:55 I asked in some newsgroup about how to write better, they told me to write a million words, a million words later, I still don't know. 04:55 I don't know, I like long stories, I have one that's 6+1 books with an average of 130k words, and a trilogy that's 2x200k words plus the third is not finished. 04:55 my stats on that fanfic page say: "Du bist Autor von 17 Geschichten mit insgesamt 202 Kapiteln, ca. 1.453.781 Wörtern sowie 23 Reviews." 04:56 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:56 I have a Steam friend who read and commented on both. :) 04:56 cool! 04:57 and that ultra-long chapter is at https://www.fanfiktion.de/s/5591064300031c1634c72d42/15/Urbaldis-Ampeln-Die-Wiederbelebung - just in case you want to take a glance at its length (I honestly don't expect anyone to read it :P) 04:57 she's busy right now, so we're stuck in the middle of 1sts book of the trilogy, for improving that, though, in hope to get unstuck. 04:57 oh you mean you have a co-author? and you're writing a book together? 04:57 no 04:58 I wrote stories, a steam friend offered to read and comment (betaread). 04:58 oh man lucky you! 04:58 maybe come up with stuff to help getting unstuck 04:58 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:58 I wish I had such a lovely bundle woman who reads all my stories... that said, sometimes my wonderlovely bundleroommate does "dramatic readings" and I really love it when she does that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 04:58 but we have to get to that point in the third book first, and she's busy with real life now, would need a week of free time or something. 04:59 bundleroommate? I thought you lilve alone? 04:59 yeah I do; I still call her my roommate though, and there's still the theoretical possibility that one day we'll live together again 04:59 my friend also says I should publish them, but I don't know how, and am too fuzzy headed to learn. 04:59 ah 04:59 what are dramatic readings? 05:00 btw, you're keeping me from sending the email ;P 05:00 what's your link to your rc- wait i have that, I can use that as example to fine mine without logging in 05:00 now hardfought.org displays "The site is experiencing technical difficulties." on my end 05:01 or do I`? I put it in a file 05:01 do I just put my name at the end of the rcedit/ link? 05:01 nope 05:01 well you can navigate to the page; find the user data on there somewhere (if I could open it, I'd do it myself) 05:01 can you give me the link to yours as example? 05:01 unfortunately not because I can't go to hardfought.org 05:01 ah 05:02 somewhere at the top there should be something like "nethack" or whatever, and under that tab find "userdata" and then navigate to "hdf-eu" 05:02 really not that difficult :P 05:02 if I were awake maybe 05:02 right now I wonder my my nose is half clogged half running 05:03 there should be a black bar with white text (or maybe the colors are different, I can't see it right now :P) that says "Home News Administration Nethack IRC Help" or something; hover the mouse over "nethack" 05:03 again, if I could actually see it, instead of having to recollect it from memory, I could give exact directions 05:03 I found that (using dark mode, so my colours would be different) 05:04 got the file 05:04 yaaaaaay! 05:04 now you can send it to me! 05:04 or actually, nowadays all the cool kids use pastebin for that :P 05:04 attachment is better in case some space is messing with stuff, right? 05:04 bah, no 05:05 yeah I guess 05:05 * LarienTelrunya keeps refreshing her inbox 05:06 I'lll tell you when it's sent 05:09 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 05:09 sent 05:09 huh, you have the dungeon option commented out in there? 05:10 yeah, because I thought to play some, you can just remove the # and it's like it was 05:10 I didn't know if I would not encounter some weird bug with the error message, so I play without it until the error message does not appear anymore 05:11 weird... this is literally the exact same format that I also use, except that I don't get the error message 05:11 it's my aura :) 05:11 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:12 I joke about that affecting electronics, but recently saw a documentary that mentioned some scientist called Pauli who had a really bad case of it, they even named it the Pauli effect. lol! 05:13 I'm still hungry. I need to eat something and wake up, while playing some ftp game on steam (free to play, not file transfer protocol) 05:13 hmm I can't see anything that would make it not work... 05:13 now you know how I feel when something doesn't work with the computer. :) 05:14 if my waking up procedure is interrupted too much or I'm rushed, it'll mess up my whole day somehow. 05:15 chatting is ok, but doing stuff that requires thinking and takes time is not so good 05:15 well it works in my config, no error messages and I do get the butt-ugly # for corridors and empty spaces for walls (but I couldn't actually play like that :P) 05:15 I'm used to it, the ',' confuse me 05:16 I wouldn't mind something showing the walls of the corridor, hm. 05:19 you can customize it to any glyph you want ;) 05:19 need to find some inspiration for what to use 05:20 there's no difference between horizontal and vertical, right? 05:20 uhh no, because in vanilla, solid rock is by definition not visible so the devs never bothered to make different glyphs depending on the adjacent corridor's orientation 05:21 I'll find something, I'm sure. :) 05:21 It's convenient that you're in the office, no rush to get to play while you're around. :) 05:22 yeah today is the only day in the entire week on which I don't have to travel around on trains! 05:23 will have tours on the next 5 days, including two successive ones on saturday... when I get home from that I'll be dead :P 05:23 aw, poor you 05:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:41 You'd think aligned priests would have weapons that aren't cursed. 05:41 You'd be wrong. 05:41 lol 05:41 His robe is also cursed. 05:42 are there even unaligned priests? 05:42 There are priests of Moloch. 05:42 they're nto aligned to moloch? 05:42 Yeah 05:42 Moloch is considered unaligned 05:42 because everyone else has it in for him 05:43 hehe 05:45 LarienTelrunya: so much Denglish 05:46 bhaak: where? in the fic? :P 05:47 also: bhaak, when will the new variants be added to the junethack page? it still shows the ones from 2018 05:48 LarienTelrunya: Verdruss schreibt sich ohne ß :-p 05:48 Yummy kraken corpse 05:48 LarienTelrunya: when it's done :-) 05:49 bhaak: isn't there no ß at all in switzerland? 05:50 LarienTelrunya: most Swiss are ß-blind. Most won't notice if the text contains it or not but somehow Verdruß screamed at me being wrong. 05:51 -!- machinespray has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:52 bhaak: my fics are written in pre-reform german (and continue to do so, because the Rechtschreibreform is a real-life variant that calls itself 3.6.1) :D 05:52 I think they didn't even have the authority to change the spelling. 05:53 LarienTelrunya: I see. you are as stubborn in orthography as you are in variant development. :-) 05:53 on the other hand, I don't write �� even with my hand, since the early 90s. Fidonet only allowed ASCII 32 to 127. 05:54 Mickmane: wtf? so in a word like "Flügelbüschelmädchen" you would transform them into ae, oe, ue? 05:54 well, only a handful of people have to write in the reform spelling. like certain Beamte. 05:55 LarienTelrunya is probably too young to possibly be one of the supposedly many offspring my father spread in teh world (besides, they are all called Dennis or Denise), but stubborn does sound like she could be a little sistser. 05:55 for everybody else, it's just following a standard to be consistent 05:55 LarienTelrunya, yes I would 05:56 I wouldn't notice either, I'd just type it as I'm used to. 05:56 LarienTelrunya: when I write "Flügelbüschelmädchen", I write "Fluegelbueschelmaedchen" and my editor turns it into "Flügelbüschelmädchen". :-} 05:56 lol :D 06:05 oh huh! apparently I can go to https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/ ! 06:06 cool 06:06 but not the main page? 06:06 no, that somehow doesn't work 06:06 what I really want to do though is to go to the IRC logs page... 06:07 YAY! got it to work :D 06:07 whee! 06:07 huh, your umlauts display as � (a box with a question mark) while my own umlauts display as actual umlauts in the log 06:08 hehe 06:08 whatever character you're using is recognized by your system, obviously, but mine might have some other system behind it, that only your IrC client recognizes? 06:09 looks like it! 06:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:30 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:47 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:49 Mickmane: you still here? I'm going through the backscroll now; """Once you put one of ours on, you'll never want to take it off!"" who said that? I'm in a shop, slex" well... the shopkeeper, of course :D 06:52 also: "why is this shopkeeper's colour inverted, white on yellow?" yellow-highlighted monsters are monsters with egotypes, which you might have seen before; shopkeepers don't tell you what the egotypes are :D 07:02 ok 07:02 what are egotypes again? 07:02 I have coffee (just pouring lid-less thermos pot from coffee machine into flask to keep it hot) 07:04 egotype means the monster has some additional property; e.g. a "giant rat Thief" is a giant rat that can also steal items or a "horned devil Breather" is a horned devil that also has a breath attack 07:04 oh, nice 07:05 shopkeepers in slex like to generate with egotypes that make them more dangerous, but their description won't say what the egotypes are ;) 07:05 cool! 07:05 normally, monsters with egotypes are highlighted yellow, but there's also a chance that a monster has egotypes and isn't highlighted yellow :P 07:05 I'm no fan of killing shopkeepers anyway, though the dude that keeps refusing me credit on the object that would be 450 is coming close to wanting to be the exception 07:05 so just because a monster looks normal, it might have hidden egotypes, hahaha! 07:06 but it shows at ;? 07:06 no, hidden egotypes are, well, hidden 07:06 damn, forgot sugar, brb 07:06 how mean, are there any that can stone or slime? 07:06 would be awkward if you had to farlook every single monster to check for the presence of egotypes 07:07 slimer egotype exists; don't think I made a stoner egotype, I should probably add one :P 07:07 no, that's mean when you don't know it can do evil things 07:08 did you forget what variant we're talking about? ;) 07:08 btw, Tangles had some farlook in his evilhack game that showed the name of stuff the cursor was over without pressing . that would be cool 07:08 that's 3.6-specific, and I have no idea how they coded that 07:08 well, it's not evil hack, this variant :) 07:09 maybe someone here can help? 07:09 yeah slex isn't evilhack... it's a variant eviler than evilhack! 07:10 haha 07:10 that said, slex has an optional evilvariant mode, for those who think it's too easy ;) 07:10 playing in Russian? No thanks :) I don't speak that 07:10 nah that's soviet mode 07:10 I read on some page that the harder mode replaces stuff with russian 07:11 soviet mode is also "harder", but in a different way 07:11 evilvariant mode has nothing to do with soviet mode though and doesn't rename anything; https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Evil_Variant is what it does 07:11 and https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/SLASHTHEM_Extended is soviet mode 07:13 ah yes, I saw that about slashThem 07:13 Oh hey, Medusa smashed the Perseus statue for me. 07:13 what's discount action? 07:13 lol Andrio 07:14 discount action reduces paralysis time, and works on some things that free action doesn't 07:15 nice 07:18 I'm adjusting glyphs right now, btw. 07:18 Oh hey, ki-rin 07:22 -!- stennowork is now known as stenno 07:23 Is there a monster option equivalent to the dungeon option? 07:23 LarienTelrunya? 07:29 Mickmane: that doesn't ping me for some reason; not sure if there is, but maybe 07:29 weird 07:29 apparently there is! 07:29 I need a list to find out if ~ is a monster 07:29 oh, cool! 07:30 do you have a link, LarienTelrunya? 07:30 does that ping you? 07:30 MONSTER=032 032 032 032 032 (and so on for the total # of monster symbols; this is just an example that would make a-e into blank spaces) 07:30 no, apparently if you add a question mark to the name it doesn't ping 07:30 weird 07:30 didn't actually make a monster option template yet 07:30 do you know if you used ~ for anyything? 07:31 do you have the source of slex? if not, you should download it :P and then look in include/monsym.h 07:31 will do! 07:31 do you have a link to the source, or shall I go llook? 07:31 yes, ~ is worm tail, also in vanilla, except in slex there's actual monsters in that class that can spawn randomly 07:31 I have a link, one moment 07:31 https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended (there should be a download button) 07:31 thanks 07:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Noah (Rog Hob Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4 07:33 among others, slex uses the following glyphs for monsters: 8 % $ . 7 9 I 07:33 (which are ones that vanilla doesn't use) 07:35 I remember some $ monster from somewhere, and met a few that looked like stuff but weren't. 07:37 I think my washing machine will be done soon, so I'm even more delayed, unless I just dump it into the whatsthewordforWanneanyway and let that sit for a bit (won't harm my laundry) 07:38 the carrying thing, not the tub 07:39 bowl? 07:39 always sounds like salad bowl, not portable laundry container 07:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Noah (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 133 points, T:796, killed by a small mimic 07:39 might just be me though 07:40 I have a weird relationship to words 07:42 the lowered drawbridges, which is going E/W and which is going N/S? LarienTelrunya 07:43 I think 215 and 216 would be perfect for them 07:43 the double line for the path you can walk 07:44 heh, sure, you can change it to whatever you want :) 07:44 (also this time it did ping me) 07:44 I did put your name at the end without the ? 07:44 but which is which? :) 07:45 "lowered drawbridges x2 = 250" is it -| or |- ? 07:45 oh damn 07:45 apparently the first one is a vertical drawbridge and the second one is a horizontal one? 07:45 ok, thanks! 07:46 glyph order is "lava, vertical open drawbridge, horizontal open drawbridge, vertical closed drawbridge, horizontal closed drawbridge, air" 07:46 thanks :) 07:50 what's the difference between rock wall and solid rock? is solid rock the area around a level, or undiggable, or something? 07:51 btw, mountain, is that unclimbable/undiggable or something? would it make sense to use the same character for solid rock? 07:51 LarienTelrunya 07:51 solid rock is capable of being undiggable; rock walls are exactly the same, but can be dug out even when the rest of an area is undiggable 07:52 mountains are climbable, but unless you're riding, it's extremely difficult, so they are mostly similar to walls (i.e. they are obstacles) 07:52 thanks :) 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 288 points, T:1646, killed by a wand 07:54 Hm 07:54 Three different types of magical cloak in the castle. 08:00 * NCommander wakes 08:00 👋🏻 08:07 LarienTelrunya snow, ash, sand, paved floor, highway, grass, nether mist any of them dangerous? 08:08 Mickmane: snow slows you unless you fly, and nether mist slowly drains your experience while you stand on it 08:08 thanks 08:09 This is a really long worm 08:09 44 segments. 08:09 wow 08:09 <{Demo}2> 44 segments of worm on the wall 08:09 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/577829818255802368/unknown.png 08:09 It got up to 45 segments and then trapped itself. 08:10 <{Demo}2> worm, more like snake 08:16 is cryptfloor any bad? 08:16 Andrio, we heard your long worms weren't long enough so we made your long worm even longer 08:16 LarienTelrunya, is crypt floor any bad? 08:17 NCommander: that's what she said 08:17 Mickmane: it doesn't actually do something, but the chance of traps is higher on crypt floor tiles 08:17 ok, thanks 08:17 also some crypt floors have cursed grave traps that continuously spawn undead 08:17 bhaak, I feel like I've recently opened a door to madness, for I am adding a new item class to NetHack 08:18 NCommander: godspeed! 08:19 * bhaak hides behind the couch 08:19 NCommander: whaaaaaaaat? are you creating NCommanderhack for real now? 08:19 bhaak, I'm basically implementing a modified way of how you did Sokoban items in UnNetHack, with a few differences 08:19 LarienTelrunya, working on evilhack for now. 08:19 oh, that 08:20 LarienTelrunya, NHack would probably end up with a massive refactor of NetHack source code >.<; 08:20 aww 08:20 long long worm w; 08:20 * LarienTelrunya is more interested in variants that add new stuff than those that lose themselves trying to "rewrite" vanilla or something 08:21 LarienTelrunya, well, I'd likely refactor it so I could add amazing new monsters with plenty of TDTTOE 08:21 heh 08:22 did I ask you for your design document before? because I might want to implement stuff in slex :P 08:23 LarienTelrunya, that requires writing a design doc, my variant are more a loose collection of ideas that filter between being equipped and lost in the Aybass 08:24 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 08:24 ah, shame 08:24 if there was a document, I could then cherry-pick the stuff I want to put into slex 08:25 LarienTelrunya, "You see here an evil patch idea. It jumps into your inventory and wields itself to your mind" 08:25 :D 08:26 * NCommander wonders how many EPIs exist in LarienTelrunya's mind 08:26 * NCommander should go get breakfast 08:26 heh, they don't just exist in my mind, they exist in the form of a huuuuuge to-do list 08:27 I had oats with cacao for breakfast, got hungry again already, ate the remaining few chips from last night (chips as in fish&chips, not crisps), wondering what to have for dinner 08:27 bhaak, anyway, what I'm doing w/ NetHack is creating a new item class known as sokoban prizes, which convert to the actual prize when picked up (like in unnethack), but is immune to all other things and can only be IDed in advance with potions of obj detection or detect treasure 08:27 NCommander: here's an outdated version: https://pastebin.com/raw/kkKi3CbJ (a bunch of stuff from that is implemented by now) 08:27 Mickmane, playing NetHack has changed your life to NetHack's nutrient system 08:27 LarienTelrunya, I'll look after I go get food, I'll be back in 10 08:28 LarienTelrunya, don't disappear into the aether on me :) 08:28 heh, I'll disappear right now because I'm heading home, will be back in 2 hours :D 08:28 see you! 08:28 NCommander, hm, how? It's not different to before. :) 08:28 see you! 08:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:28 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:32 NCommander: what does "immune to all other things" mean? I have tried hard to make it impossible to id in advance. so that you have to do the sokoban level and you don't have the situation as in 3.4.3 that the player takes a glance at the items and decides they aren't worth it 08:33 although of course you know in unnethack that there is always a bag of holding 08:35 Amy, I still get syntax error in DUNGEON 08:35 wth? 08:36 why do I get that but not Amy? 08:38 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/rcedit/rcedit-slex/ "NOTE: You don't seem to have an rcfile. You cannot save these changes. You need to log in to hardfought.org first!" I am logged in. 08:39 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mickmane/slex/Mickmane.slexrc also exists 08:42 or I'm not logged in... "You have specified an incorrect username. Please check your username and try again." 08:43 It's Mickmane 08:43 "If you continue to have problems please contact the Board Administrator." ... "The board administrator contact page has been disabled." 08:47 bhaak, well immune to being picked up, avoiding tricks to get all the items (I found a way in evilhack) etc. 08:48 Do you have any idea why I get syntax error in DUNGEON while Amy doesn't? 08:48 she had a look at my settings, it was the same stuff. 08:49 Does the error message say anything else? 08:49 no 08:49 :/ 08:49 when starting the game, that's all it says, then hit enter to continue 08:50 Is there a newline at the end? 08:50 If not, try adding one. 08:50 possibly, but I don't know how to remove it 08:50 There isn't in the link you posted. 08:50 NCommander: ah, okay 08:50 in the editor from putty, I can move the cursor down 08:50 Oh, never mind. Yeah, there is. 08:51 I was thinking of how to remove it, because dungeon must be the last thing in the config 08:51 but I can't get to the editor on hardfought, and no idea how to remove it in the editor with putty 08:51 Can I see Amy's config file? 08:51 I'lll dig it up, hang on 08:52 * NCommander ate tasty gauva and bread 08:52 damn, would need her username 08:52 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/ 08:52 or maybe she's on the org? 08:53 nope, don't see Lariensomething there either 08:53 Is it https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/AmyBSOD.slexrc ? 08:53 ah, yeah, shoulud be it 08:53 Nope, that one doesn't have DUNGEON in it. 08:53 she tested it earlier 08:53 probably removed it because she didn't like the look? 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh4] gRan2 (disbi) (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 22381 points, T:1365, killed by a giant bat 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh4] oBar1 (disbi) (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 7972 points, T:447, killed by a wand 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3624 09:22 I'm off for a nap. 09:23 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3652 09:31 * NCommander is so sick of being constantly tired 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh4] oRAN1 (disbi) (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 19480 points, T:1573, killed by a kitten 09:35 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:19242 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:19376 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:19379 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class N, on T:19381 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class R, on T:19382 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:19527 09:51 morning 09:52 Hey 09:52 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 09:55 hows it going Andrio 09:59 Could be worse 09:59 you? 10:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:03 <{Demo}2> howdy 10:05 Andrio: ok so far 10:05 heya {Demo}2 10:05 k2: remind me again about evilhack wishing. can i ask for dragonhide speed boots? 10:06 yes 10:06 cool, thanks. i have trouble keeping the variants straight 10:06 you can wish for different allowed materials on normal objects 10:06 (not artifacts) 10:06 right 10:08 once NCommander finishes work on the sokoban bit, i'll release 0.3.2, that build has a significant amount of bug fixes and tweaks based on player feedback 10:08 * NCommander wishes he had energy 10:08 !tell Mickmane it was my BSOD2 account, the one I use for testing 10:08 I'm on it, LarienTelrunya. 10:09 * K2 gives NCommander an extra strength 5 hour energy, grape flavor 10:10 evilhack 0.3.2, now with more evil 10:11 * NCommander drinks the five hour energy ... and then explodes 10:11 hahah 10:12 Ah 10:14 NCommander: at least you're doing some work on a variant at all, unlike me, I haven't coded any slex stuff in almost a week now! :( 10:15