00:00 Often too shallow for bones though 00:00 And yeah, I have 00:00 oh, I didn't know there was a Dlvl limit 00:01 There'd be a lot of Dlvl:1 bones otherwise. 00:03 Which can still be created in wizard mode. 00:08 yuk - I don't like Soko 4a - easy to mess up 00:15 Andrio: I sense you are having a good run ^^ 00:15 I guess so 00:15 I didn't die to the level teleport trap. That's something 00:23 wtf - took 18 daggers to kill something behind this boulder in soko - thought it was a giant mimic, but no corpse 00:30 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:29795 00:34 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:30214 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10048 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:8 01:10 heading out to the gym - bb a little later 01:22 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:33105 01:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 02:12 hm 02:13 2k 362 games played on nao, and one impossible already 02:13 what was the impossible? 02:15 1557594324 needler: impossible Shopkeeper administration out of order. 02:16 it also happened in 361. the fuzzer has never triggered that. 02:16 Hmm ok I have not seen that one before. 02:17 well, this is interesting... 02:17 seems like needer's the only who triggers it 02:17 needler 02:18 hmm I wonder what they are doing. Did you look at the ttyrec? 02:19 not yet. i'm at work 02:21 ah ok. Me too. I may have a look tonight. I'm interested to see what happened. 02:25 perhaps they've found a bug that lets them glitch the shopkeep making all the items free in the shop 02:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2646 02:25 but it's interesting that i have never seen the fuzzer trigger it 02:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering a gnome corpse on an altar of Lugh, on T:3099 02:42 also, he's used a mailinator email, so contacting him isn't really possible 02:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11366 03:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14825 03:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:18582 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:22831 03:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:24395 03:52 Something is engraved here on the headstone. You read: "De'Ath". You find a rolling boulder trap. 04:24 !who 04:24 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh362] 04:41 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 04:43 Morning. :) 04:50 Hey 04:50 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 04:52 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:53 Tactical rotten food 04:53 Everything suddenly goes dark. It explodes! You seem unaffected by it. 04:55 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 04:58 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:04 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:05 Lol 05:06 -!- stennowork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:08 orcs, and only orcs, should be able to saddle and ride wargs 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:13644 05:40 damn - 2 polytraps and I haven't reached Mine's End yet 8^P 05:43 master mind flayer seems to do more dmg than vampire lord (maybe because it's fast?) 05:45 You eat the kobold mummy's brain! The kobold mummy doesn't notice. 05:45 lol 05:46 would being polymorphed into a mummy protect you from brain eating, too? 05:46 it should! 05:49 I can't kill a mimic! 05:49 The small mimic doesn't seem harmed. Your tentacles suck the small mimic. 05:50 aw, mean 05:50 can't you use a weapon at all? 05:50 yeah - looks like weapon dmg took care of him 05:50 ah, good 05:51 I got stoned once when I fought a c as a vampire lord - I wonder if the same would happen with a mmf 05:51 I am pretty sure it will 05:52 I even vaguely remember mentions of YASD with just that 05:52 I wonder if I can tame a mind flayer with my slex character's charm ability. 05:53 if u could I think it'd be a great pet 05:53 Not the first time I had one, I think. 05:55 I have a pretty neat pet already, some player character race/role combo with wha tseems an artifact weapon (wrath of heaven) that does lightning 05:55 well, ele dam 05:55 chatting, she discusses dungeon exploring. :) 05:56 I keep letting her kill most monsters, along with the other pets I have. :) 05:57 how did u get a pet like that? charm or poly? 05:57 charm ability of my transvestite devil (I think the trans has the ability) 05:58 doh 05:58 I think it was: 05:58 "You strike a sexy pose with your heels! 05:58 the spell capturer is charmed, and wants to be your friend! 05:58 " 05:59 rofl 05:59 yeah, it's funny :) 05:59 is slex your favorite variant? 05:59 I'm playing it for the first time, 2nd char (first died quick, was transported to some space base and I had no idea what was going on) 06:00 before, only vanilla, and slashem 06:00 It's fun though, and I like freedom of no quest restrictions/barriers 06:01 and all because I thought to look at IRC again after ages, #nethack was pretty much the only active auto-loaded channel 06:02 got the idea to maybe play somewhere with tiles (I miss them), then ended up here and playing slex :) 06:03 yea - once I get used to a certain GUI, it's hard to adjust to new ones - that's my biggest barrier to trying new variants (that the gui's are too different from vanilla) 06:03 ...and I'm too lazy to tweak the rc files 06:04 hm, even back on DOS I liked making my own config files, and still dragging that along, adjusting for new stuff, like menucolours. 06:04 and most is still the same in slex, only the corridors look weird. 06:06 omg - my toon is SO SLOW compared to mmf - what I need is to find a variant that'll lemme play mmf as a role 06:07 ask Amy to add that? :) 06:07 or pick a faster race. 06:07 my transvestite gets speed with high heels at xl 30 or so I think 06:09 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:09 I suppose you can't wield a silver saber 8^P 06:09 I haven't tried yet. I guess I shuold. But the role's best at hammer anyway. 06:10 Mjollnir 06:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:10 who knows what crazy artifacts slex has. maybe Amy can point me to some that would be good to have. :) 06:23 It really shouldn't have taken 6 attepmts to convert the Orcish Town altar 06:25 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 06:26 take it with humour, and praise the RNG anyway, so next time you're luckier :) 06:27 this run is out-of-control: I've only reached Dlvl:7 (GM,soko cleared), but there's already 150 items in the stash - but no reflection/MR yet 06:27 oh, wow 06:28 3 BoH's, a sack, and a spent BoT (from Andrio's ghost - I #tip'ped that one by accident) 06:29 what does tipping do with BoT? 06:30 try doing it with a BoT from a bonez pile... ...it discharges all charges at once (in other words, you get a room full of mobs) 06:30 oh, ouch 06:30 full discharge when it's cursed 06:32 Nice 06:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:15298 06:33 Heh 06:33 I just got sleep resistance from eating an elf zombie corpse 06:33 tinned? 06:34 Nope. 06:34 how? 06:34 Apparently it was just barely not tainted enough. 06:34 damn - you like to live dangerously 06:35 I have a unicorn horn. It's fine. 06:35 oh - didn't know unihorn can cure that, too... 06:35 mm 06:35 well, it can, 06:35 if it's barely tainted, I wonder if you could sacrifice it 06:35 Probably not. That's stricter. 06:35 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:41 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 06:49 @s?vorpal jabberwock 06:49 No such monster. 06:49 @g?vorpal jabberwock 06:49 vorpal jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 27 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Attacks: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw behead, 3d10 claw behead | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, infravisible 06:50 doesn't sound friendly :) 06:51 well, that wasn't very nice - death ray from ogre lord on Dlvl:9... ...and I have no reflection or MR - luckily it missed (AC:-10, but maybe CoP helped) and resulted in suicide 06:51 missed me twice (bounce) 06:51 Yeah I blew an AoLS on one in evilhack last night. I know there's another a couple of levels up. Current plan is to tame and ride it I think. 06:51 wow, eraserhead97 06:51 Then I can just keep an AoLS on and still fly :) 06:52 hehe 06:52 can that jabberwock put on an amulet of reflection? 06:52 or anything else that might give it reflection? 06:52 hmm good question. 06:53 yeah getting it disintegrated while riding over lava might not end well. 06:53 i think it can't, being an animal, but not sure 06:53 my thinking :) 06:53 I am used to riding silver dragons 06:53 K2 did some weird stuff with the animal flag in evilhack. 06:54 I think jabberwocks and dragons may be intelligent now. 06:55 I'll have to drop the amulet somewhere I can teleport to, and then go find a saddle. 06:55 according to wiki, hit chance for AC:-10 is 0.525 - that means the chance of two misses is (1-0.525)^2 = 22.57% ... which means it's time to go to bed - my luck is spent - gn ^^ 06:55 sleep well :) 06:56 why do you have to drop the amulet somewhere you can teleport to? 06:58 haha good night eraserhead97 06:59 Mickmane: Just thinking out loud. Need to levelport back for saddle, and don't want to fight my way back through mobs to wherever I drop the amulet. 07:00 oh 07:00 I have a feeling all teleport is blocked with the amulet, which means these 33 scrolls I collected are not really much use. 07:00 I thought you could just keep it on you 07:00 oh, -that- amulet 07:00 I thought you meant amulet of reflection 07:01 need to run afk for a bit 07:01 Oh yeah sorry I can see why you would think that. I don't have one of those either :) 07:01 ok seeya 07:10 don't worry, I know how it happens :) 07:23 I did no such thing. 07:23 hehe, sue him! 07:24 This is breaking conduct when monsters zap poly at you. 07:24 oh, that's mean 07:24 It's a bug 07:24 yeah 07:24 Also I tamed the vorpal J. and it got killed in its first battle. 07:24 so I think that's a no-go. 07:24 aw, that was not very powerful vorpal J. 07:25 Think I'll just go steed-less. 07:25 does evil have other ways to fly, apart from amulet you mentioned I think? 07:26 I wonder if crushing can kill me by breaking bones, or just suffocating (for which I'd have an amulet of magical breathing) 07:31 Mickmane: No just the amulet. It still has levitation though. 07:31 ah 07:32 I think dnethack changes lev boots to flying boots. Might suggest that to K2 07:32 though that's very non-evil. 07:33 hehe 07:33 shopkeeper says to please leave my digging tools outside, what, my wand too? 07:34 no, just your mattock and pickaxe 07:34 they probably can't see that the wand is a wand of digging 07:34 oh, I missed the mattock (slex btw, you never know what that does) 07:45 lol, my other @ pet steals stuff from monsters :) 07:45 oh wait, other way round, damn 07:46 the priestess of Lady Gaga, oh dear 07:46 co-aligned temple, nice 07:47 wonder who the other gods are 07:50 Clever 07:50 They hid some of the wine cellar potions on a polymorph trap. 07:51 thats mean 07:51 Yeah. 07:53 * raisse shakes Andrio's hand from the other side of the world 07:53 * Andrio shakes raisse's hand. 07:57 argh tag-teamed by 2 gnome lords and a hobbit 07:57 slex: what's a heavily cursed item? :) 07:57 the hobbit was on the stairs so I couldn't escape 07:57 ow 07:58 they were all around the mines stairs 07:58 they're camping there in hope of hapless adventurers to plunder 07:58 no death message, but it'll come? 07:59 no, it won't, because it was under my mintc 07:59 I mean by the bot here 07:59 any games of mine that end before turn 5000 don't get reported 07:59 oh 08:00 sneaky. ;P 08:00 yes, I set the bot not to report every single one of my short games because I was tired of having to explain my playstyle 08:00 understandable 08:00 sooner or later, explaining one's prefereces gets tedious. 08:01 yes 08:01 better tell and re-tell old stories that everyone's heard a 100 times! :) 08:01 also embarrassing 08:01 I mean, explaining also got embarrassing 08:01 ah, I don't know embarrassing, but you know me :) 08:01 yeah :-) 08:01 * raisse is in a meeting on another channel now 08:01 so sort of intermittent 08:01 have fun 08:02 I am in minetown in slex in a co-aligned temple to Lady Gaga, FINALLY an altar! 08:02 * Mickmane is not sure I want to know what my pets are doing outside, I locked them out. 08:02 Have I mentioned clearing out a throne room with Cleaver is kinda hilarious? 08:03 hehe, sounds great :) 08:03 Mm~ 08:07 Amy, can I enchant stuff (I got some enchanged (of conf res) gloves, for example)? 08:07 enchanted* 08:10 <{Demo}2> way for slex to have a way other than unihorns of dealing with conf 08:10 eat a lizard corpse? I think that helps in vanilla, much reduces conf duration 08:10 * NCommander rises up 08:10 ir you have any spare lizards 08:11 I found enchanted of fire res, too, some boots I think, so I wonder if I can make some myself 08:11 Morning NCommander, how are you today? 08:11 <{Demo}2> I feel like I knew that at one point 08:11 <{Demo}2> thanks 08:12 Slightly better I thnk 08:12 oh, good :) 08:13 I should lock my @ pets into a room with all uninteresting armour and have them sort it out. :) 08:13 !role 08:13 NCommander: dnethack priest 08:13 ... 08:13 Beholder, I don't want to play priests 08:13 ugh 08:13 * NCommander rolls vanilla random 08:15 <{Demo}2> when it days dnethack it actually means notdnethack :P 08:16 hm, no 7 candles in minetown store, I guess slex thinks I can find them elsewhere :) 08:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] NCommander (Arc Hum Fem Law), 9 points, T:74, killed by a newt 08:17 Call me dundley 08:17 *dudley 08:18 I guess owning 5 lamps called lamp 1 means they're not magic :) 08:18 oh, wow 08:20 Should I wish for Magicbane? 08:20 oh, my key broke, damn 08:22 what does a red Par mean as status of char? 08:22 Andrio, I usually wish for DSM if I ge an early wish 08:22 in slex I mean 08:23 I can probably reverse genocide dragons for that at this point. Also I already have reflection. 08:23 Andrio, grey by default unless I have MR (Although sometimes I'll just get gray regardless) 08:23 The PYEC gives magic resistance 08:23 that might be stolen 08:23 true. 08:28 I'll have more wishes by the time I have to worry about that, though. 08:28 that's true 08:28 * NCommander is now feeling sorta :( 08:28 ugh 08:28 aww 08:28 Morning grace before the storm. 08:28 * Andrio pats NCommander. 08:29 !role 08:29 NCommander: slex cruel abuser 08:29 Alternatively I could wish for a bag of holding or a wand of polymorph. 08:30 how do I name an object on the floor in slex? 08:37 Question... in UnNetHack, you can create a magic trap by breaking a wand of magic missile, right? 08:37 "The altar suddenly vanishes! 08:37 " 08:37 wth!`? 08:37 that's evil 08:38 I wish !setmintc made beholder report *nothing* about games until mintc is reached 08:39 so... I had these two potions of object detection left over and trying to lighten the load. 08:39 at least the priestess didn#t get angry 08:39 ...and object detection is smoky, so... bless and quaff. 2 from 2! 08:39 Mickmane, altars have a chance of vanishing every time you BUC test 08:39 cool! 08:40 NCommander, that's terrible, too bad I didn't know in advance :) 08:40 Mickmane, don't chat with him 08:40 ok! 08:40 so, I still have this pile of junk, guess I'll hae to go back to pet testing 08:48 "Look, girls, we can't all fit into this tiny room, would you please leave?" sigh 08:48 I want my cat to test stuff 08:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:01 why do corpses rot in my ice box? 09:02 huh, now on the floor they're no longer rotted 09:02 Amy, is that a bug? 09:04 * NCommander zaps a wand of death at himself 09:05 put me out of my miserary :( 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 344 points, T:3584, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:35 aw. poor NCommander 09:37 * NCommander returns from a food run 09:37 It's cold and raining here 09:37 oh, not helping, eh? 09:37 I just dumped some potatoes into the pan with oil, going to have chips, well, chip butties is the idea. :) 09:38 aahh, forgot to take the butter outof the freezer 09:38 guess won't be butter on the butties then 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] NCommander (Kni Hum Fem Law), 509 points, T:1213, killed by a large cat called Ernest 09:42 bleh 09:42 I'm just sucking at nethack 09:42 oh, how did you do that? 09:42 maybe feeling bad isn't helping with a game that can do... not so nice things? 09:43 I mean, could make you feel worse, and play worse, or the other way round, with one causing the other. 09:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh4] ZD12 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 13042 points, T:1410, killed by a small mimic 10:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:05 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:06 Combat boots 10:06 <{Demo}2> comboots 10:09 RNG, please do not give nymphs potions of paralysis 10:10 <{Demo}2> !lotg Tangles 10:10 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, Tangles! 10:10 instead of object detection? that's mean 10:12 wonder what I did, first the game is as if he's not doing anything (watching Tangles), then it looks as if it fast forwards who knows where, then it's stilla gain. 10:13 does right-click into th eputty window does something weird? 10:14 I wonder how I can get slex to sort the loot in containers. 10:14 Thanks {Demo}2 :) 10:15 Mickmane: yeah I think the watch menu can do that. It fast-forwards the ttyrec for the whole session. 10:15 oh, interesting, thanks 10:15 also, good luck! 10:16 hah, he's on the TV screen now :) 10:19 beholder hickups? 10:19 oh, someone said you get only 2 per scroll 10:20 ;) yay he got the krakens 10:20 and electric eels. 10:20 I hate those bastards 10:20 yeah, I see it, on the big tv screen even! :) 10:20 else the window would cover the chat here 10:27 God I hate the plane of water. 10:27 understandable 10:27 can you not fly over the water? 10:27 at least I'm not speedrunnig 10:27 nope 10:27 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 10:27 well not in 3.6.x vanilla 10:27 ok, didn't remember 10:28 you can put on magical breathing and swim, but all your stuff gets wet, so I don't like doing that. 10:28 yeah, not without an oilskin bag. What about magical breathing and flying? 10:28 <{Demo}2> flying dont do shit 10:29 <{Demo}2> its 3d water 10:29 lol 10:30 :) 10:30 maybe I'll play DoomRL for a palette cleansier 10:31 did you save, or run afk or something, Tangles? 10:32 nope. just been on the plane of water for the last 15 minutes. 10:32 the screen here isn't moving 10:32 ah, now it is, hm. 10:33 maybe I left it unmoving for too long 10:33 lmao the portal is next to me under corpse or something. 10:33 that's a convenient portal, yes :) 10:33 oh, was still water, well that was mean 10:35 wonder what the ring of p'hul does 10:42 that red horse is useful? 10:43 didn't you plan to tame them? 10:43 oh, only one is pet, weird 10:44 lol at absurd aquatic ceremony 10:44 <{Demo}2> war's steed 10:44 <{Demo}2> all the other riders get one 10:45 cool 10:45 is it any good? 10:45 So it took all three genocide scrolls to get teleport control 10:45 <{Demo}2> no 10:45 how unlucky is that? 10:45 <{Demo}2> mine got killed right away 10:46 hrmpf 10:46 i may buff up the red horse for 0.3.2 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Set, on T:16182 10:47 queasy feeling? 10:48 mean that the riders can move other stuff out of the way! 10:48 thats vanilla behavior 10:49 must have forgotten it, or is it newish? 10:49 not new 10:49 It's been in since around 3.6.0. 10:49 I'm rather forgetful 10:50 dont forget to eat Tangles 10:51 <{Demo}2> I'd never forget to eat him :P 10:51 Me neither 10:51 I missed what altar he found 10:51 forgot the comma hah 10:51 lawful 10:51 aw 10:53 Most of my playing was 331 and 343, not sure I played any 360 on nao 10:56 things are fleeing in this temple :) 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh4] Zd15 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 33492 points, T:3716, killed by a wolf 10:57 hrm 10:57 But I don't have the amulet. 10:57 <{Demo}2> u got robbed 10:57 Someone stole it. This is going to be ugly 10:57 Tangles: mplayers will try to steal it 10:57 <{Demo}2> by a player monster 10:57 mean 10:57 <{Demo}2> those guys r ass clowns 10:58 <{Demo}2> they stole my amulet as well 10:58 <{Demo}2> then I died 10:58 and any intelligent monster, if they get their hands on it, will try to sacrifice it 10:58 oh, eek 10:58 <{Demo}2> is that behavior tested? 10:58 yup 10:58 then Tangles would be one of the player monsters on astral waiting for the next hapless adventurer. 10:59 this is in evil-variant? 10:59 yup 10:59 truly evil 10:59 <{Demo}2> assclown-variant should be the next iteration (evilerhack) 10:59 rofl 10:59 <{Demo}2> where the game just punches u in the face for fun and you don't stand a chance 10:59 <{Demo}2> so I guess slex challenge modes 11:00 what are you going to do now, Tangles? 11:00 watch the ttyrec 11:00 what else? 11:00 <{Demo}2> beat up tony the tiger or whoever stole his shit 11:00 ah, good :) 11:00 <{Demo}2> good plan 11:00 <{Demo}2> that's degenerate play btw 11:01 <{Demo}2> I think 11:01 good luck in finding the culprit and then aquiring the amulet back without too much trouble 11:01 Tangles: did you encounter any mplayers before entering astral while carrying the amulet? 11:01 <{Demo}2> k2 it should make a noisier message when u get robbed 11:01 <{Demo}2> like use words that are sensitive 11:01 <{Demo}2> like "slow" 11:01 there is feedback 11:01 <{Demo}2> yeah but it's probably easy to ignore 11:02 <{Demo}2> use words that scare players like "glow" or "medallion" 11:02 players will have to learn to add that feedback to msgtype=alert or stop 11:02 <{Demo}2> literally if u slipped the word medallion in there no one would miss it 11:02 <{Demo}2> and ppl might shit their pants as well 11:02 its not a medallion 11:02 I would 11:02 <{Demo}2> which could be funny 11:03 miss it I mean 11:03 <{Demo}2> "you feel your heart slow down" 11:03 <{Demo}2> that would catch people 11:03 <{Demo}2> or beginning to or whatever the stoning language is 11:03 you either read all the message spam from monster attacks, or you won't catch anything. :) 11:03 MSGTYPE is for this 11:04 <{Demo}2> wonder what the message is 11:04 <{Demo}2> just a general AD_SITM message? 11:04 i'm not adding anything special 11:04 <{Demo}2> tangles when you find it in the ttyrec send what the message it says id 11:05 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:44488 11:05 <{Demo}2> ur missing an opportunity to use powerful nethack language :P 11:07 <{Demo}2> wonder what the scariest single word in nethack is 11:07 c 11:07 don't need a whole word 11:07 <{Demo}2> you see the letter c all the time 11:07 <{Demo}2> I mean least desensitized 11:07 Demogorgon? 11:08 <{Demo}2> demogrogon isn't a threat 11:08 Cockatrices aren't all that scary 11:08 it's different on the screen though, than in a word 11:08 They'd be scarier to Demogorgon. 11:08 I guess we are all different :) 11:08 <{Demo}2> brain is a scary word 11:08 <{Demo}2> medallion is scary 11:08 why? 11:08 <{Demo}2> burning aols means u did something dumb 11:09 <{Demo}2> sinking is a scary word 11:09 Amulets of reflection also use the word 'medallion' 11:09 like killing a monster who wears one? 11:09 i'm not adding any special language to the AoY being stolen 11:09 It could also mean a monster used one 11:09 <{Demo}2> ahhhh I rarely use reflection 11:09 there's already sufficient feedback 11:09 <{Demo}2> amulet 11:09 <{Demo}2> yeah I know that's fine 11:09 you're right. it is fine ;) 11:09 <{Demo}2> it just leads to an interesting questiom 11:09 <{Demo}2> what words does nethack make scary and noticable? 11:09 I find it a little weird that a few messages say 'medallion' whereas the game refers to it as an 'amulet' everywere else. 11:10 Same for elven leather helms, which are considered hats. 11:10 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:10 <{Demo}2> is feeling a scary word? 11:10 You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. 11:10 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 11:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 11:11 <{Demo}2> ah nope 11:11 Maybe 11:11 <{Demo}2> crisp is kind of scary 11:11 ugh my stupid 3rd world internet connection just died 11:11 though anything that uses the word 'crisp' usually means you're already dead 11:11 <{Demo}2> which is scary 11:12 <{Demo}2> but nah, misthrow an important item 11:12 not sure I see it 11:12 There is that 11:12 let me know when you get back into the game, Tangles 11:13 <{Demo}2> I'd say maud would make it if it wasn't also a ghost name 11:13 posessions is a scary word: dywypi? 11:13 'psychic' would be up there 11:13 Tangles: did you discover where the amulet went? 11:13 I'm not sure it counts as scary if you're already dead. 11:14 <{Demo}2> nah thats scary 11:14 andrio, in slex, I got the message and wasn't dead! 11:14 Mm 11:14 <{Demo}2> feverish kind of sucks 11:14 As you read the scroll, it disappears. 11:14 You fall below the bottom of the page! You die... 11:14 Do you want your possessions identified? DYWYPI? [ynq] (n) _ 11:14 This is an identify scroll. 11:15 https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheComputerIsALyingBastard 11:15 <{Demo}2> scarecrow is a bad word 11:15 Isn't that only a thing in explore mode? 11:15 <{Demo}2> lifesaving 11:16 in vanilla at least, life saving won't help. 11:16 Andrio, that page isn't readable, just keeps asking about accepting their ads, and I say no 11:16 <{Demo}2> really? 11:16 mm 11:16 Mickmane, what browser? 11:16 vivaldi 11:16 Ah, I haven't actually heard of that one. 11:16 I just guess it insists on setting cookies, and I insist on refusing 11:16 It works fine on Chrome 11:16 with uBlock 11:16 vivaldi is based on chrome 11:16 because the ads on that site are in fact despicable 11:16 Mhm 11:17 I guess pages that insist on setting cookies and block their content unless I let them set one just aren't worth my time. 11:18 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 11:18 Does the part of my site that you need to log in to use count? 11:18 I can't parse that sentence. 11:20 time to attempt a polypet 11:20 Good luck 11:20 Let me know what you get 11:20 thx ^^ 11:21 Mickmane, things like the NetHack Wiki as well often use cookies to remember who you are if you're logged in 11:21 *uck orc shammy - gonna have to leash 11:21 I don't know your site though, and don't know why I would need to log in to it. 11:23 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 11:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 11:23 K2: Bill the invisible Raider stole it. 11:23 Oh hey Tangles_ is back. 11:24 you're game is back on? didn't see it a moment ago 11:24 not yet. 11:24 -!- Tangles has quit [Quit: brb] 11:25 polypets: mirilith, rope golem, mumak - can't even kill da killer bees 8^P 11:25 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 11:25 gonna have to retry 11:25 eraserhead97, I know the feeling. :) 11:25 ah, your game is back! 11:25 damn you Bill 11:25 I'm not very good at it - the best I've gotten is pit fiend 11:26 just need patience 11:26 Mickmane: do u just use leash + magic whistle or are there better techniques? 11:26 Tangles... Kill Bill :P 11:27 If I have magic resistance, I might displace it onto a trap, but not sure if that's a good idea. Else, jus tmagic whistle. 11:27 and a lot of food and time and patience. 11:27 I'm stubborn, I spend ages in a shop too, for example. 11:27 <{Demo}2> bill isn't cool 11:27 Bill is waaaay over on the other side of the map 11:28 ouch 11:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:30 hiya 11:30 <{Demo}2> wait a minute 11:30 <{Demo}2> lizard corpses making u less stoned is a joke 11:30 Beholder: was there a huge explosion and everything went up in smoke? 11:30 huh, no messages? 11:30 T:9999 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZD4 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 35895 points, T:3141, killed by a plains centaur 11:31 I'd not remember that long name to !tell (or what the comand is) you anything :) 11:31 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:32 Mickmane: hi. I just got home from a long tour and I'm completely exhausted. I'll go through the logs later. Unless you have something urgent, it'll take some time until I address everything ;) 11:32 nono, do rest, I'm not in any hurry, and watching Tangles on astral right now, in Evil 11:32 something stole his amulet and ran off with it, he noticed on the right altar... 11:32 *correct altar 11:33 besides, LarienTelrunya, I never want anyone to feel pressured or obligated to do something. :) 11:33 (Well, I want discord to disappear, but that's not really towards any particular person.) 11:34 Ella the matriarch with vorpal blade can fuck right off. 11:34 <{Demo}2> put a cyber-hit out on rld 11:34 <{Demo}2> damn ella the neck slicer 11:34 I don't know how or what 'on rld' means :) 11:35 <{Demo}2> rld is the discord bridge bot 11:35 my idea more involves people stopping to use it. 11:35 <{Demo}2> ohhh 11:35 Well, that would not make it disappear from being mentioned on Steam. 11:35 <{Demo}2> just nuke silicon valley idk 11:35 what's so bad about discord, apart from the fact the bridge bot is bugged and constantly makes the discordians not see what we're saying? :P 11:35 you have some drastic ideas 11:36 <{Demo}2> he means discord in general 11:36 spied on what I was doing, kept spamming my email after I uninstalled (when I noticed it was spying), hadn't even thrown a TOS in my face, never mind one mentioning the spying 11:37 and for some reason devs of games seem to feel the need to hang out there instead of Steam chat, where they put their freaking game 11:37 plus, awkward options, missing features I am used to from teamspeak 11:38 (If they want to see what I'm saying here, they should hang out here, anyway.) 11:39 I can't hit him! 11:39 <{Demo}2> I hate discord but for other reasons 11:39 <{Demo}2> well some of the same 11:39 as long as you hate it, I'm happy. :) 11:39 as long as someone else hates it, I'm happy 11:39 <{Demo}2> doesn't mean this isn't sent from it 11:39 Tangles, how can you not hit him? 11:39 also I got flayed so I forgot half my stuff 11:40 ouch 11:40 <{Demo}2> yikes 11:40 I saw you naming a wand, but missed some stuff, the text is too fast for me. 11:40 <{Demo}2> u can borrow what's left of my brain 11:40 <{Demo}2> then maybe u can have 3/4 of a working brain 11:44 whee! 11:44 got amulet. Now back to altar without losing it or dying. 11:44 yeah 11:45 yay Tangles 11:45 <{Demo}2> u seem like u could use another 11:45 <{Demo}2> !lotg Tangles 11:45 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, Tangles! 11:52 I read an unidentified scroll thinking it was charging. Was enchant weapon 11:52 by stormy 11:52 oh shit 11:52 awww 11:52 *bye 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZD22 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 21740 points, T:1489, killed by a hobbit 11:52 I saw you name the scroll, but missed the reason again 11:52 11 steps away from the right altar 11:53 you can do it 11:53 so now I have this shitty +6 axe that won't even cut through the insects 11:53 can you tame everything? 11:53 conflict? 11:53 dig out conflict? or does it not work on evil? 11:54 how many teleports on wands do you have left, to clear a path? 11:55 ..and done. 11:55 \o/ 11:55 wheee! congratulations! 11:55 phew! 11:55 congrats Tangles!! 11:55 coulda used lifestealer if I had identified it lol. 11:56 what is lifestealer? 11:56 vlad's two handed sword 11:56 oh, sounds interesting, is it evil only? 11:56 from sporkhack 11:57 that's not a very exhaustive highscore list :) no one else playing it? 11:57 <{Demo}2> hell yeah! 11:57 or no one in au? 11:57 au 11:57 would be nice if the lists could be merged 11:57 how ya feel Tangles? lol 11:57 I'd be stunned for a while. :) 11:57 tired! lol 11:58 that was definitely... hardfought 11:58 :P 11:58 indeed! 11:58 I was going to knock that over quickly and have an early night. Here it is 2am again. 11:58 ouch 11:58 sleep well! 11:58 well earned win right there 11:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Cyclops, on T:40460 12:00 That was awesome fun, K2. Thanks for putitng it together ;) 12:00 thank you! 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40477 12:00 i've been addressing bugs you noticed, commentary is in dev channel 12:02 Yeah there were probably others. That scroll of charging one should be checked for in vanilla. I'd be surprised if it didn't exist upstream. 12:02 i can test against both 12:02 The blast of disintegration whizzes by you! 12:03 ... at which point I realize that I am not, in fact, wearing my amulet of reflection 12:03 the only changes i made with scrolls of charging are that int monsters can use them 12:03 oh6 heh 12:03 ouch oh6! 12:06 ok sleep time. 'night everyone. and thanks! 12:06 Sleep well :) 12:07 it was fine, I cast a sleep spell and switched amulets 12:07 gnite Tangles 12:07 hehe 12:08 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 12:08 !8ball will I finish this game before junethack? 12:08 jonathanhanes: Outlook good 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:45799 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:58361 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:28840 12:20 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 12:20 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Mon Akt Fem Cha), 2465149 points, T:70510, killed by a monster (invisible pain master) 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Mal Law), 115002 points, T:30092, killed by a minotaur 12:22 damn @Luxidream 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:45921 12:26 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Mon Akt Fem Cha), 11765 points, T:1, quit 12:27 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Mon Akt Fem Cha), 11850 points, T:1, quit 12:28 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Mon Akt Fem Cha), 11750 points, T:1, quit 12:28 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Mon Akt Fem Cha), 12162 points, T:2, quit 12:29 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Mon Akt Fem Cha), 11850 points, T:1, quit 12:29 nice patch idea: breaking a wand of wishing should give you a superwish, letting you wish for things you normally can't wish for such as your quest artifact and a demogorgon figurine 12:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:30 -!- maxlunar has joined #hardfought 12:30 maxlunar: usage: !setmintc 100 12:30 that will hide all games that end before turn 100 12:30 !setmintc 100 12:30 maxlunar: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for maxlunar set to 100 12:30 (can use a different number, obviously) 12:31 thanks. 12:31 -!- maxlunar has left #hardfought 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:9365 12:32 LarienTelrunya, can you consider adding sortloot and some other things from those that gave error messages, from this list: http://old.bamgames.org/Slashem/ 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:9375 12:33 Mickmane: don't remember what the others were, and also we have a sortpack option, not sure if that does a similar thing to sortloot, and the link to that sortloot patch 404's :P 12:33 what does sortpack do? I think I couldn't find it 12:34 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Dungeon_option does that replace the corridors with # and corridor walls with ' '? 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:27389 12:35 sortpack = the order in which your inventory is shown 12:35 I think sortloot affects bag contents and stuff on the floor 12:35 yes I was jsut typing that :-) 12:35 I saw it in Tangles' game, and would like it again :) 12:36 invetory might mean just the main one 12:36 Mickmane: uhh no, but you can customize it to do that 12:36 I have sortloot:loot and I'm happy with that but I can't describe how it's different from other varieties 12:36 yes, main inventory is your pack 12:36 the default for that is okay 12:36 I have sortloot:full, but it doesn't work in slex, so LarienTelrunya suggested sortpack, and I wonder if that does the same 12:37 unless you want something wildly different like tools first 12:37 oh, main inventory list, I have already 12:37 oh if it's about slex I can't advise 12:37 OPTIONS=packorder:$%*+?!/("=)[0_` 12:38 well, it was in reply to LarienTelrunya, so still about slex :) 12:38 LarienTelrunya, what do I have to do to have it do that? 12:38 oh right packorder 12:38 I thought that was what sortpack was 12:39 Mickmane: the symbol explanation should describe what is what... just change the corridors to 032 (or whatever is #) and the walls to, I dunno... probably an empty space? 12:39 oh, 035 is # and 032 is an empty space 12:39 032 would be empty space, no? :) 12:39 ok, will try, thanks! 12:39 yeah my bad 12:40 Mickmane: also I'm finally ready to go over the previous chat, so here goes: "I wonder if I can tame a mind flayer with my slex character's charm ability." yes, as I said before, as long as it's humanoid and not a boss and doesn't have M3_NOTAME, you can! 12:40 "the priestess of Lady Gaga, oh dear; wonder who the other gods are" press ctrl-X :D 12:40 why is the box on the page shown twice? 12:40 Mickmane: which box? 12:41 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Dungeon_option 12:41 I'll check ctrl-x when I'm in game again 12:41 well, which box? 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh4] wii6 (disbi) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 30048 points, T:2760, killed by a werejackal 12:42 those that show DUNGEON=... there seem to be two identical ones 12:42 they're not identical; you did read the line between them, right? 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12218 12:42 yes, they seem to say the same thing with different words 12:42 the lower one changed a 035 (the # for solid rock) to 032 (a blank space) 12:42 "096 096 124 124 035" still a 35 in the last line 12:43 "If you want to get rid of the # glyph for solid rock, use the following one instead" how does that say the same as the other line? 12:43 the 035 in the last line is a grayout; a 035 in the fifth line got changed to a 032 12:43 "Symbol explanation for customization follows below." lists them in the exact order they appear in, which also mentions that the 035 at the end is the grayout 12:44 ah, I finally spot it, thanks! 12:44 so, which index in the DUNGEON array is what dungeon feature is static; the first entry is for an unexplored area, which is displayed by 032, so if you change that 032 to something else, unexplored areas will look different 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 11553 points, T:13782, killed by an owlbear, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:45 then 179 and 196 are glyphs for walls; if you changed them to 032, then those walls would be invisible :P 12:45 and so on 12:45 <{Demo}2> dang he's a speedy one 12:45 yeah, I just want the corridor '#,,#' changed to ' ## ' like I'm used to 12:45 Mickmane: anyway, reading further backscroll: heavily cursed items are like cursed items, but resist uncursing attempts 2 in 3 times 12:46 ok, thanks 12:46 DUNGEON = 032 179 196 218 191 192 217 197 193 194 \ 180 195 035 035 035 250 254 254 043 043 \ 241 241 035 035 250 250 035 035 060 062 \ 060 062 095 124 092 244 244 244 247 250 \ 247 250 250 035 035 096 096 032 247 035 \ 247 247 247 247 247 244 244 092 092 124 \ 124 250 250 250 250 250 250 250 096 250 \ 096 096 124 124 035 12:47 thanks! 12:47 I'll look at the list of items and see what else I might want changed. :) 12:47 Mickmane: enchantments like "of confusion resistance" are random; if you use enchant armor, your items may gain such an enchantment, but you can't control which one, or the rare scroll of armor specialization can do the same; if you need to remove the enchantment because it's one you don't want, cancel the item in question 12:48 well you can just change it yourself, with my explanation it's easy to find which glyph is where in the array 12:48 yeah, I should be able to manage it. :) 12:48 also the numbers are basically ascii codes 12:48 I'll use an ascii table, I guess. :) 12:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:49 what I find weird though, is that I've only been able to get it to work with the IBMgraphics option enabled; DECgraphics or no graphics just doesn't seem to make it load the DUNGEON option 12:49 I'll tend that later, right now you have my attention :) 12:49 I guess I should first look at what IBMgraphics does to the game display :) 12:49 brb 12:50 hmm you mentioned not finding 7 candles in Izchak's store; don't worry, there are candles at Vlad's 12:50 I'm not worried anyway, just found it curious :) 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 56783 points, T:18187, killed by a death ray 12:50 "Par" on the status line means paralyzed ;) 12:51 corpses showing "rotted" when handling an ice box is weird, I don't know why that happens; they might still be good to eat 12:52 <{Demo}2> when items are removed from an icebox their corpse timeout is set 12:52 <{Demo}2> err a new timer is set for them 12:52 back 12:53 they seemed good enough to eat (one at least) for my cat, and no longer rotted when on the floor 12:53 cool, so I guess they're safe then, with the new timer 12:53 btw, I'm carrying that ice box, it's not in a shop or anything 12:54 oh you're actually playing now? 12:54 not right now, following what you say here :) 12:54 ah 12:55 and pasting info into a file, then I'll look at dungeon walls when you're done :) 12:55 well yeah, you probably already noticed that slex lets you carry a lot more; ice boxes do make decent portable containers, but aren't waterproof (except the rare ice box of waterproofing) 12:55 we had that subject before, I even remember! :) 12:55 though it may well be that I ask the same question again and again and keep forgetting the answer 12:55 what was finalized again? I'll put the info in a file now :) 12:56 finalized = item can't be blanked, diluted or cancelled, but still have its BUC changed, be cleared by a unihorn, be written on via magic marker etc. 12:56 (of course only if that's generally possible with the item in question) 12:56 thanks! 12:56 it's basically a way to reduce the overabundance of blank scrolls and holy water later in the game 12:57 ah!, I don't remember that being an issue. :) 12:57 anyway, did you get to 'how do I name an item on the ground'? I know there's 2 loadstones on the floor in minetown... 12:57 well, stones that can't be kicked anyway 12:57 did you add any others? 12:57 yeah I did get to that, and the answer reads "you can't" :P 12:58 oh, damn :) 12:58 if you want to identify the gray stone, you have to pick it up 12:58 I'll just have to keep kicking any unnamed/id'd ones 12:59 heh. all the nasty gray stones pass the kick test :D 12:59 you know what would be mean, while the interface doesn't allow that? adding another unkickable stone that has a good effect 12:59 the interface won't allow that in the future either :P but it's a nice idea 12:59 what other gray stones are there? (doesn't pass mean they'd be kicked?) 13:00 shame, I think vanilla interface allows it. 13:00 3.6 allows it, but that's not vanilla :P 13:00 hey, how about being able to mark it with a magic marker at least? 13:00 no, sorry, you want to type-name it, you have to pick it up 13:00 362 was jus treleased, how's that not vanilla? 13:00 3.4.3 is vanilla :P (it's a joke; I always say that because I despise most of the 3.6 changes) 13:01 oh 13:01 I can live with that if I remember it 13:01 there's people who say there's no Highlander II movie, this is similar. :) 13:01 There is no Highlander II moview 13:01 I have things that don't exist in my world either, just can't name any on the spot. 13:01 hehe, see! 13:02 there's also no fallout 4 :P 13:02 and certainly no diablo 3! 13:02 I'm not familiar with the series. I got a free fallout 1, and played some fallout shelter, both on steam. 13:02 The Star Wars canon consists of three films (in which Han shoots first), X-Wing, and TIE Fighter 13:02 all I know about diabolo is the name. 13:03 Mickmane: lol are you my brother? he always misspelled it as "Diabolo" too :P 13:03 I watched soem bits (not sure if whole movie) of Star Wars in the 90s I think. That was it. 13:03 lol, I don't often spell it :) 13:04 Oh, there are only 6 Dune books, by Frank Herbert. All else is at best fanfic, and doesn't count. 13:05 6> one of which was any good hem-hem 13:05 Pinkbeast, I can't parse that. :) 13:05 or do you mean none of which? 13:05 Mickmane: scroll of flood isn't necessarily useful on a lava level, since it makes water on floor tiles only. Lava tiles are unaffected. 13:05 oh, shame, can you change that, LarienTelrunya? 13:06 I tried anyway, but with seeing too little of the level to know if anything was affected. 13:06 no, that's not what the scroll is supposed to do, sorry 13:06 I mean one. Herbert should have stopped after _Dune_, which I think is the sort of accidental masterpiece the author then strives desperately to replicate (and fails) 13:06 well, I like doing nifty things 13:06 in order to remove lava, read the scroll of lava while confused 13:06 I liked the last two best, I think, Pinkbeast 13:06 oh! 13:06 scroll of sand any good for something? 13:07 Mickmane: whistles seeming less effective means that applying a whistle has a chance of making their BUC worse ;) 13:07 well the scroll of sand can be used to create sand, which can cause sandstorms (bad) but you take less damage while being on sand (good) 13:07 and generally, scrolls that create terrain will remove the terrain in question when read while confused, so a confused scroll of sand will turn sand back to floor 13:07 ah, and does buc status of ordinary whistles have an effect? 13:08 yeah cursed whistles make a "shrill" whistling sound that angers watchmen and wakes up the entire level 13:08 ok, thanks! 13:08 in vanilla they also make a shrill whistling sound but it doesn't actually behave differently from a high whistling sound (???) 13:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:10 hiya 13:10 alright I think I'm finally done catching up to the backscroll :D 13:10 but I'm also still sleep deprived, will probably go to bed rather early today 13:11 sleep well :) 13:13 so, what does your sortpack do, and how can I customize it to do what I want? 13:13 LarienTelrunya? 13:13 I honestly have no idea! 13:13 lol 13:13 never used it :P 13:14 it either was part of slashem already, or someone else patched it in 13:14 I'lll look at it in-game 13:17 I can use any char up to ascii (extended) 255 with the DUNGEON= feature? 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:46020 13:18 should work, yes 13:19 https://www.ascii-code.com/ is this one the correct one? there's so many funny letters in the higher areas 13:20 I remember them being lines and double lines and corners and stuff in DOS 13:20 uhh yeah you want one where 179, 218, 191 etc. are lines 13:20 ok, thanks :) 13:22 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:24 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437 ?` 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:46115 13:24 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Codepage-437.png does look like it 13:25 yeah, I've seen that too, but just the image without numberw would leave me counting endlessly :) 13:25 yeah I think that's the correct one 13:25 thanks :) 13:31 ah, just checking for watching game, your block of DUNGEON looks just right! 13:31 but with you going to bed early, and nothing on TV and me being a bit tired, I think I'll have a nap soon. 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Death (5 times), on T:46208 13:32 heh, I'm not in bed just yet, but will probably be in an hour or so, depending on how I feel 13:32 well, you probably have better things to do than answer any questions I might throw at you. :) 13:32 watching you, it all looks like always... 13:32 probably IBMgraphics isn't on 13:32 yeah, I realized I hadn't put it into the game yet, only my local file 13:33 see, I need a nap :) 13:33 :D 13:33 syntax error in DUNGEON 13:33 gah 13:33 well... 13:33 I guess you'd like how it looks now? 13:34 hey, the corridor seems correct 13:34 * Mickmane is laughing here, don't worry 13:34 well yeah the corridor looks like # on my end too 13:35 not sure why it throws an error message though 13:35 well, the rest is pink funny walls and gray funny floor and stuff 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 77779 points, T:29095, killed by a death ray 13:35 maybe you didn't set putty to codepage 437 13:35 I also think it's slightly skewed, walls not linking up in rooms I know are right 13:35 oh! 13:35 will try 13:36 to find whereever that's done... 13:36 window -> translation -> remote character set 13:36 you want CP437, it probably defaults to unicode or something 13:36 AH; that has utf-8, will change it 13:36 wow, a windows program that defaults to utf-8 instead of latin-1 13:37 things look nice now, but still syntax error 13:39 that's really weird... 13:39 why? 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4963730 points, T:46259, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/nethack/dumplog/1557124255.nh.txt 13:39 because when I tested that option back in the day, it didn't throw an error 13:39 oh, I thought you meant my screen 13:39 it looks nice 13:40 :) 13:40 should I remove the space around = to see if that helps? 13:40 wondering though whether I might have added some glyphs 13:40 nah I don't think that's the issue 13:40 give me a minute or two and I'll run a local test 13:40 should I see if adding mroe numbers? ok 13:41 Is there any way to create an altar? 13:42 weird... locally (windows), the dungeon option works without syntax error 13:42 yes, scroll of consecration or scroll of create altar 13:42 oh, cool! 13:42 why are there 2? 13:42 however, if the disappeared altar was in a temple, creating a new altar there will not restore the temple; do not chat with the priest! 13:42 someone warned me not to chat with her :) 13:42 well consecration lets you choose what alignment it should be if blessed, and makes it your own alignment if uncursed; create altar always makes a moloch altar IIRC 13:43 oh, makes sense 13:43 shame, I thought the other two gods might be names I've at least heard about on TV too, but no luck. 13:45 you never heard of Olivia Jones? 13:45 sortpack is true, but doesn't seem to do anything 13:45 Oh, her, I think yeah. 13:45 well I still don't even know what sortloot is supposed to do 13:45 or why it's so important to you, in fact you're the first player who ever mentioned it 13:46 <{Demo}2> do they send priests to consecration camps? 13:46 it sorts stuff on the floro and in bags 13:47 so instead of a mess, it lists all in alphabetical order, first all potions of amnesia, then confusion, then enlightenment,... 13:47 for example 13:47 within their group type 13:48 look at my bag... 13:48 the remove curse ones, for example, should be right after each other 13:48 might be a 3.6-specific option then 13:48 give me a patch diff and I'll see what I can do :P 13:49 It was added at some point, yes, and I was very happy to not to have to manually sort items anymore, as in taking everyting out and putting it back in in groups 13:50 I had one earlier, need to find it again 13:50 if I can get it to work, it might be added at the next savebreak version 13:50 i.e. sometime after junethack 13:50 ah, sounds hopeful at least :) 13:50 by the way, you should totally participate in junethack, I hereby offer you to join my clan *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 13:51 I'm not competitive. Is there a prize for longest and slowest game that might not be finished? 13:51 i.e. that I'll invite you into my clan 13:51 heh, you don't have to be competitive, and no matter how badly you play, you can't drag the clan down :D 13:52 What if I get stressed by it? I'm not a tournament kind of person. 13:52 it's purely optional to actually play, but by being in my clan, all games you play during june (which start and end within the month) will count for the tournament 13:52 any variant? 13:52 so you can just play completely normally or not play at all, whatever you like :) 13:52 any participating variant (slex qualifies :D) 13:52 ok, then I'll join you :) 13:52 yaaaaaay :) 13:52 I'll remind you again once registration is open 13:53 https://www.benjamin-schieder.de/patchesslashem.html 13:53 https://www.benjamin-schieder.de/downloads/slashem/sortloot_0.1.patch 13:53 is that helpful? 13:54 Mickmane: I'll look into it; if it works, it may be implemented :) 13:54 cool, it's sooo nice to have :) 13:54 looks like it can be applied easily 13:54 yay 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:42935 13:55 any idea what's up with the DUNGEON yet? 13:56 not really 13:57 I think I can live with turning that off until you know what's up. :) 13:57 don't stress yourself :) 13:57 well yeah the format is exactly the same but locally I don't get an error 13:58 don't feel like testing right now, remind me tomorrow maybe 13:58 ok 13:58 do you get an error on the server? 13:58 that's what I'm too lazy to test right now :P 13:58 was only testing locally 13:58 ah, lol 13:59 also I'd have to paste all the lines individually because I can't use putty here 13:59 really don't feel like doing all that work right now, will test tomorrow in the office where I have putty 13:59 nonono, don't feel pressured, it's fine :) 14:02 are you on Steam? 14:03 no 14:03 Just curious. I'm ready to nap soon, was just checking wishlist for anyhting on sale that I would want now, and friend activity, and now just look at the screen. 14:03 heh, I'm actually playing elona on the other PC right now 14:03 will continue doing that for a little and then go to bed, probably 14:04 what's elona? 14:04 a japanese "roguelike" (but permadeath is optional there) 14:04 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:04 ah! 14:04 screenshot: https://i.redd.it/ab4uj2wnsv701.png 14:05 Anyway, IRC dragged me onto Steam, some channel on efnet where they talked about voice chat, I wanted to hear them too, they said go Steam, install Alien Swarm, you can come along as an extra target... 14:05 * Mickmane had no idea about wasd keys, or shooters, but this one was at least top-down 14:05 Hm, in my world, roguelikes must be ASCII default (even though I like tiles). ;P 14:05 ugh wasd, that's like having to operate a numpad with your feet to play :P 14:06 I'm very averse to japanese cartoon style graphics though. 14:06 whaaaaaaaaaaaat? but elona has beautiful tiles! and I say that as a player who normally HATES tiles! 14:06 I got used to it, or well, esdf, as I change it to where possible, because first finger on the left hand MUST rest on f 14:07 I don't like how the characters look in japanese cartoons. well, don't like is the understatement of the year, but if you're having fun, that's great! :) 14:07 that style is not something I want gone from the earth, it's just not for me 14:07 my girl (the one with the green bundle) in that picture looks super cuuuuuute and even has wings! ♥♥♥ such a lovely wing-tufted girl! 14:08 * LarienTelrunya sings "Ich-hab-so-gar-Flüüüüüü-gel!" (weil ich Red Bull getrunken hab! :D) 14:08 well, if you are happy with it, I'm happy -for- you 14:08 heh 14:08 I like the wings my char in Terraria has, that's pixelgraphic :) 14:09 mind, the most scary monster in any game ever was a pale 1 (executioner in Crawl) 14:10 reminds me of playing Spiral Knigihts, which even when it had updates, was as much of a costume game as it was bashing monsters. I really don't like the colour red, but could be happy for friends being happy with their totally red outfit. :) 14:10 crawl is a game at which I just plain suck :P 14:10 Crawl wants you dead, it's not your fault 14:10 I escaped with the orb a very few times. 14:10 also way back when over 15 years ago 14:11 someone has to build a tileset from diablo 1 assets 14:11 isn't there a diablorl? 14:11 too bad the dev back then was not so nice as they all are here. Had some weird ideas on how things should be changed (he wasn't the original one, btw), and insisted some bug I'd reported had been fixed. 14:12 would not be suprising given that diablo 1 was a roguelike in the early stages of development 14:13 one of my reasons to become a dev is because I always get annoyed if the devs of a game I really like are taking it in a direction I dislike 14:13 by modding it, I can make it go in the direction I like instead :D 14:13 :)) 14:14 so far, with what I encountered (not seen those interface traps yet I hope, I don't like the very idea, but you know that), the only thing is all the different monsters that are so similar, is a bit odd. 14:14 The rest is all great. :) 14:15 well you didn't get all that far yet I guess; some earlygame monsters are indeed just filler to make sure the difficult ones don't spawn all the damn time 14:15 how am I supposed to id all my scrolls and potions though? 14:15 hehe 14:15 well... use-identifying, maybe? 14:16 I went broke with one shopkeeper already, will be broke again when I leave minetown 14:16 the first one just didn't offer the option any more after a while. 14:16 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:16 yeah shopkeeper services eventually run out 14:17 hey, with the scroll of consecration, I can't read that in gehennom, can I? 14:17 why wouldn't you? 14:17 you can't read it on astral though, for obvious reasons 14:17 ok, will it work? 14:17 haha 14:17 yes, just don't expect to be able to pray on a coaligned altar in gehennom :P you can, however, offer corpses there 14:18 oh, neat. 14:18 well, that's it from me for now, enjoy your game and sleep well, I'm off for a nap :) 14:18 see you, and sweet dreams! ♥ 14:18 and thanks for all the answers! 14:18 thanks :) 14:19 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:44551 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Cav Hum Mal Law), 1863 points, T:2880, killed by a dingo 14:41 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:46 * NCommander wakes from a nap 14:46 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 14:50 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Client Quit] 15:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:20 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:46326 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law), 539 points, T:1766, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Gormly 15:39 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided vorpal jabberwocks dungeon wide on T:38879 15:43 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 t-shirt named Totally Awesome!", on T:38936 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 8 points, T:222, killed by a falling rock 15:57 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:41203 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wii2 (disbi) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 45578 points, T:10226, killed by a Woodland-elf 16:16 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 crystal pick", on T:42202 16:18 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 16:22 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 497 points, T:1254, killed by a boiling potion 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1024 points, T:1905, killed by a giant ant 16:29 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 16:32 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:44 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 16:45 Hiya. 16:56 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:48468 17:03 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:4273 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law), 100 points, T:10, killed by a gnome 17:33 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh4] zd12 (disbi) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 33410 points, T:5123, killed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3409 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a gnomish wizard corpse on an altar of Set, on T:3313 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] xelfe (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 398 points, T:1678, poisoned by a rotted brown mold corpse 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4038 17:56 <@Shin Umbygashima> I think the bot's borked again 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4120 17:57 <@kriptospicebox> !ping 17:57 @kriptospicebox: Pong! 17:57 how so 17:57 <@kriptospicebox> it is indeed 17:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> Like LONG borked but 17:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> I dunno who to ping about it 17:57 !ping 17:57 StatueSurfer: Pong! 17:57 <@kriptospicebox> but legends tell that the people in the irc channel can see us 17:58 StatueSurfer we can see what they say but not vice versa 17:58 <@kriptospicebox> they become unwilling voyeurs to our conversations 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4948 17:58 LOL 17:58 <@kriptospicebox> @mtf is the botmaster 17:58 <@mtf> arhg 17:58 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:59 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 17:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 17:59 <@mtf> one day I'll figure this damn problem out 17:59 <@kriptospicebox> how's that thing set up? Does it actually crash or just stop responding? 18:01 hi @mtf 18:01 the legends are true 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:5803 18:04 <@kriptospicebox> now all you peeping toms and tomettes cant hide from us anymore 18:04 <@kriptospicebox> until the next time the bot breaks and you guys all start talking smack like we know youdo 18:05 <@kriptospicebox> you do* 18:05 hahah 18:07 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:08 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6517 18:17 <@mtf> hey k2 😃 18:17 <@mtf> @kriptospicebox it's getting random IRC errors 18:17 :P 18:18 <@mtf> the one that seems to rear it's head the most is some unregistered error, which doesn't make sense b/c a) I registered the nick, and b) the thing runs for months on end with no problems 18:20 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:49680 18:32 hey K2 18:32 !role 18:32 NCommander: unnethack knight 18:32 heya NCommander 18:32 K2, how goes life 18:32 its going 18:32 still in a holding pattern here 18:33 passing time working on evilhack 18:33 K2, anything needing help? 18:33 yes actually 18:33 What can I assist with? 18:33 lemme dig up the commit 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:6596 18:36 NCommander: for evilhack I made sokoban end much like grunthacks version. 3 prizes behind three closed doors. once you open one door, the other 2 disappear and turn into undiggable walls 18:36 so you can only get one of the three prizes 18:36 apparently there are still a couple ways around that 18:36 initial commit - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/0c9c9ba2e6767ac49d680f70a68fc65979051a7b 18:36 ooze pet or something, for example? 18:37 fixes to initial commit - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/7c479955f8007bf9f60528b0e1be44cacfab4059 18:37 Mickmane: one instance is if a rock mole spawns in the sokoban zoo, it can still eat through the doors 18:37 how about xorn polys 18:37 i heard there was something to do with boulders also 18:38 oh, right 18:38 StatueSurfer: good one, that one didnt cross my mind 18:38 walls are non phase i think 18:38 need to dbl check 18:38 but the doors may not be 18:38 K2, probably need a special object class that makes the objects disappear upon pickup vs. sealing the doors 18:39 the code in those commits is pretty much from grunthack. probably could be improved upon 18:39 * NCommander swears 18:39 Fucking roommate forgot to pay the Internet bill. Again 18:39 also, you could tame the zoo, then magic whistle until a pet has picked up and dropped the items outsid. 18:40 ugh, what does that mean, NCommander? you're going to vanish? 18:40 well the doors are all closed 18:40 if you have a BIG zoo of pets, you just need to stand outside a door and have some randomyl turn up on the other side of it. 18:40 Mickmane, no, means I'm going to smack my roommate when he gets home 18:41 I've had zoos that are more than 8+steed, even dragged them up with the amulet, taking them bunch by bunch, if I remember right. 18:41 NCommander, at least you're not going to vanish :) 18:42 I may disconnect but I'll reconnect with my phone 18:42 ah 18:42 NetHack doesn't require much bandwidth :) 18:42 NCommander this one is more involved than the other issues 18:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:43 K2, yeah, I figured 18:43 K2, let me look at it in VSCode 18:43 i think in unnethack the other 2 objects *poof* disappear (unnethack has a three prize system also) 18:44 but i like grunthacks implementation better 18:44 as you cant tell whats behind each door until you open it (or use potion of obj detection) 18:44 K2, I thought with un it didn't poof until you picked it up 18:44 correct 18:45 in grunthack, once you open one door, the other 2 disappear and undiggable walls replace that space 18:45 same here for evilhack 18:46 * NCommander is looking for the sokoban code 18:46 K2, so you want it that the objs *poof* out of existence when you open the door? 18:46 they shouldnt have to disappear if the doors work like they should 18:46 wow lycanthropy past turn 50000 18:46 the doors should be unbreakable 18:47 i mean it's not like other spots in the game don't have undiggable walls 18:47 the issue is that if a door is damaged, the other two doors still remain 18:48 so potentially you can gain access to all three rooms/prizes 18:48 its a door issue ;) 18:48 okay if a door is broken or opened, the other two prizes poof 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5094 18:48 no, the other 2 *doors* turn into undiggable walls 18:49 but why not do it the way i just suggested 18:49 K2, looking, do you know where the code is specifically? 18:49 NCommander look at the 2 commits i linked 18:49 scroll up 18:49 or is there something else you need to see 18:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> Thing is, couldn't a monster in the zoo potentially do something that destroys a door? 18:49 @Shin yeah thats one of the issues 18:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> Or am I misunderstanding the layout of Gruntoban? 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 8204 points, T:5172, killed by a sergeant, while sleeping 18:50 No, I missed that 18:50 I couldn't access github due to Verizon bill being unpaid 18:50 I just paid it 18:50 StatueSurfer I dont want to do it that way, the player isnt supposed to be able to see what was even behind the other 2 doors 18:51 via normal means that is 18:51 <----- being picky 18:51 i can see that 18:51 why, if object detection will just tell them anyway? 18:51 * NCommander hrms 18:51 EvilHack doesn't have iron doors 18:51 nope 18:51 hah... if i had pulled iron doors over from xnethack... 18:51 but 18:52 aosdict did this crazy refactor of all things doors 18:52 its very involved, not going there 18:52 haha i remember that 18:52 I'm just looking at the edge cases. 18:52 i told him he should call his variant doorhack 18:52 I can see a few ways of breaking this 18:53 and this is where my limited ability shines 18:53 because I cant see it 18:53 or maybe just not looking hard enough, dunno 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] zd3 (disbi) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 39684 points, T:3009, killed by a large cat 18:55 K2, monsters can spawn in the special rooms for one, nothing preventing that, monsters smashing doors I think are handled by another special case 18:56 ok 18:57 i didnt have an issue with a monster spawning inside the special room 18:57 It's technically possible, just unlikely 18:57 SO besides jamming a bolder in the door, what other ways are known to break it? 18:58 <{Demo}2> what happens if a boulder is jammed there? 18:59 K2, also, I don't quite get what it means by the monsters changing form every few turns 18:59 well since breaking the doors apparently doesn't seal the other rooms 19:00 NCommander ignore that bit about the monsters changing 19:00 it was an issue from an earlier commit 19:01 i happened to see it express itself during sokoban testing 19:01 thought it was related somehow but wasnt 19:01 see my 2nd commit i linked 19:02 ok i have to log for just a bit, chow time 19:02 be back soon 19:02 thanks NCommander 19:03 K2, I actually managed to find a way to get all three prizes 19:03 enjoy your food :) 19:03 Beside the border 19:03 *boulder 19:03 PMing 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5105 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh4] Zd21 (disbi) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 21932 points, T:1212, killed by a giant bat 19:07 K2, I think I'm going to implement a new iron door for sokoban to easily handle all the special cases 19:08 Instead of littering In_SOkoban everywhere 19:08 which can have unintentional effects 19:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 88 points, T:694, defeated by a goblin 19:09 Or I could be evil and put drawbridges in :) 19:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Vam Mal Cha) was given the Garnet Rod, on T:21701 19:11 /* players are computer scientists: 0, 1, 2, n */ 19:11 lol 19:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Ana Dwa Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:4132 19:16 * NCommander hrms 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 200 points, T:570, killed by a dwarf 19:18 K2, do you want the prize detectable by obj detection or not? 19:19 <@riker> !who 19:19 @riker: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh362] every [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] kdg [dnh] disbi [nh4] nutterbutter [un] Lachtain [spl] | [hdf-eu] galadriel [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 19:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 19:25 K2, I'm going to fiddle with my ham radio stuff, etl me know when you're back 19:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Ana Dwa Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:5361 19:37 k2: not sure if this matters but in my case, when i finally went into the zoo one door was missing. it was for the mm and i didn't want to risk losing it, so i picked it up. there was no message about the other doors so i tried the one for the cloak and it opened and the remaining door sealed 19:37 so the code is triggerd by the door opening and not picking up one of the prizes 19:37 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:38 *not by 19:40 ah. ncommander has the right answer: iron doors 19:41 hothraxxa, it's actually triggered by the trap, but monsters never trigger traps 19:41 on doors 19:41 oh there's a trap? makes sense 19:41 yeah, the doors are trapped 19:41 so if i untrapped the door i would find it? 19:42 no, that special case was thought of. you'll find the trap but can't disarm it 19:42 (but you do exercise wisdom) 19:42 in evilhack i untrap most doors unless i forget, but not those 19:42 No one expects the Sokoban Trap 19:42 three times. they still burn up my shit 19:42 * NCommander is currently untangling wires 19:43 Trying to see if I can get my ham set semi functional 19:43 <@Togue the Toeist> yo 19:43 <@Togue the Toeist> MKoT allows u to untrap stuff 100% yeah? 19:43 <@Togue the Toeist> gotta look into that 19:43 what's a ham set? 19:44 Ham radio 19:44 That special case is also checked 19:44 hm, not familiar with that. 19:44 <@Togue the Toeist> yummy 19:44 <@Togue the Toeist> is it made outta meat? 19:44 ham radio is like irc except over radio waves and aerials and stuff 19:45 oh 19:45 hothraxxa, ... that's a disturbingly accurate description 19:45 <@Togue the Toeist> i remember stories i've been told of people fucking around in that airplane "help" line lol 19:45 * NCommander notes he could actually play nethack over the bandwidth of an HF data link 19:45 300 baud best case scenario 19:45 i thought ham radio had moved into tcp though 19:46 or something 19:46 hothraxxa, nah, we do all sorts of anologue shit still, including CW (Morse code) 19:46 morse code: why i never took up the hobby 19:47 my uncle was big into ham radio for many years 19:47 hothraxxa, that requirement has been gone for 20 years 19:48 and as soon as I untangle the cables I suddenly feel tired 19:48 $!@# 19:48 fuck my health 19:48 yeah i know, but this was when i was in my teens and i'm over 70 now 19:48 he stuck with it until about 5 years ago 19:48 wow 19:49 hothraxxa, gah, you're twice my age 19:49 more 19:49 * NCommander salutes your gray beard 19:49 I thought I was old, but now I feel young, at 47! 19:49 ah. i have one 19:49 * NCommander will be 31 this week 19:49 i am the oldest ever to ascend evilhack! 19:49 heh, cool! 19:49 and xnethack 19:49 hothraxxa, rofl. 19:50 and fiqhack 19:50 and grunthack 19:50 hothraxxa, go ascend SLEX 19:50 ah. no, i'm too old for that 19:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:50 lol 19:50 i don't mind messing aourbnd in it but i can't take it seriously 19:50 * NCommander reads a scroll of pizza delivery 19:51 amy knows i love her despite slex 19:52 I thnk that's how we *all* feel about Amy 19:52 <@Togue the Toeist> i feel so young 19:52 <@Togue the Toeist> just 15 19:53 on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog 19:53 that meme might be older than you 19:54 I prefer the idea that anyone could be an alien posting from Pluto. :) 19:54 * NCommander notes he's just old enough to remember an era before the Internet being common place. 19:54 <@Togue the Toeist> yea, thats older than me 19:55 I only got broadband in 2009, was old 28.8 modem until then (I moved flat and thought to ask about broadband if it fits my price idea) 19:57 * NCommander has been tempted to play Angband for a change 19:57 I'm still waiting for K2 to return to figure out how to fix Soko 19:57 I'm thinking of implementing a new item type "Sokoban Prize", and have it auto-transform into an actual prize when picked up 19:58 you mean you wouldn't be able to use od to discover what it is? 19:59 hothraxxa, well I don't know if K2 wants that 20:11 hi 20:11 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 20:12 reading backscroll 20:14 NCommander: object detection/detect treasure still needs to be a viable option to see what all is in the special rooms 20:14 i like the iron door bit 20:14 oh hey 20:15 * NCommander will do the door thing 20:15 so to not be a complete ripoff of xnethack - make them heavy stone doors instead 20:15 "You see here a star gate" 20:15 Ivory doors! 20:15 that would imply magic even maybe 20:15 heh 20:15 ivory is not a material in nethack 20:15 bone is though 20:16 bone burns 20:16 but yeah heavy stone doors, all pyramid and stuff 20:16 isn't it a description? 20:16 Well what other stuff can we make doors out of 20:16 * NCommander suddenly imagines Amy, and b - a fleecy door 20:16 transparent aluminum! 20:16 there's wood and stone as material? 20:16 Mickmane object materials is a thing in evilhack (and other variants) 20:16 yes 20:16 lol fleecy doors 20:16 hothraxxa star trek IV 20:16 can't it just be the description? 20:17 Mickmane is *could* be 20:17 I like transparent aluminion idea 20:17 it 20:17 aluminium* 20:17 but why when you can use a an actual material 20:17 K2, doors are dungeon features, not items 20:17 so it looks like a magic ivory door instead of plain old rock ;P 20:17 You can't pick up a door 20:17 right 20:18 but you can destroy a door with fire 20:18 or acid 20:18 bones can burn 20:18 but not a stone door 20:18 reminds me of that old joke. Why does a dude carry a car door through the desert? 20:18 * NCommander waits for the punchline 20:18 Because when the lion comes after him, he can throw it away to run faster 20:18 ... 20:18 doh 20:19 * NCommander hears a rimshot 20:19 oh i understand unburdening better now 20:19 much success 20:19 just remembered that when I thought about carrying a door 20:19 hothraxxa, careful, you might summon Amy! 20:19 lol hothraxxa 20:19 I'd say this channel is PG-13, but we do talk about SLEX here ... 20:20 this channel tends to stay pg-13 butsometimes goes rated R 20:20 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 20:20 and very rarely TV-MA 20:20 K2, strangely, that's usually when we talk about SLEX or it's creator 20:20 television-mature, or what does that mean? 20:20 same as NR 20:20 or X 20:21 K2, we could make the door out of Americanium. 20:21 that's not the system used where I live, so I can only guess. 20:21 unobtainium 20:21 here they say Freigegeben ab 6/12/16/18,... 20:21 You see an americium door here. You grow a third arm. 20:21 Mickmane ah 20:21 'murica 20:22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americium - its a real element 20:22 yup 20:22 ok so 20:22 NCommander do what you think is best 20:23 K2, well, the options are to leave the doors alone, and change the base object type to a special soko prize type that monsters can't manipulate at all, and picking it up causes it to pop, and is only identified with objects of potion identification 20:23 That way if someone subverts the doors, they can only see "a sokoban prize" unless the object is IDed through the potion 20:24 and then pop the other objects 20:24 That's fairly fool proof to exploits 20:24 i dont want the doors subverted at all 20:24 thats the whole point 20:24 otherwise it turns into unnethack version of sokoban 20:24 Well it's kinda moot if you can't see the prize without picking it up or obj detection 20:25 if the door is subverted, you could look into the special room from the zoo and see whats in there 20:25 normal vision 20:25 K2, no, they'd just be a generic "sokoban object" 20:25 er, sokoban prize 20:25 huh 20:25 The prize won't identify unless you pick it up, or use an object detection method 20:25 you're doing some sorcery 20:26 its neat 20:26 hmm 20:26 Yeah, they can subvert the doors all they want. When the prize is claimed, all SOKOBAN_VICTORY_OBJECTS get deleted from the level. 20:27 and monsters cant mess with the prizes at all 20:27 Bingo 20:27 i put cursed scrolls of scare monster in each also to handle that fyi 20:27 We can also do some special logic like preventing the prize from being CoMR if wizard cause that's just mean 20:27 nope 20:28 Just suggesting 20:28 each room, the prize is 50/50 one or another thing 20:28 i don't care, i want a marker no matter what i am 20:28 <{Demo}2> what if i zap a prize with a tele wand? 20:28 no bag please 20:28 {Demo}2, won't move. 20:28 Being a special object, I can easily change the rules. 20:28 <{Demo}2> what if i zap a wand of fire at the scroll and destroy it 20:28 NCommander go for it 20:28 <{Demo}2> so a monster will be able to go there 20:28 I'll treat it like the boook of the dead 20:29 RIght until you pick it up 20:29 Then it pops to a new type of item 20:29 * NCommander cricks neck 20:29 heh 20:29 YOU SHALL FEAR MY UBER CODING SKILS 20:29 * K2 sits back and calmy watches in not-fear 20:29 *calmly 20:30 dammit 20:30 while you do that I will try to figure out the tengu corpse giving teleportis and tele control at same time always issue 20:30 <{Demo}2> here is a solution -> add a bit for is sokoban prize to the object struct, when you pick up any item that has it set it sets u.usokosolved, if that is already set, the item pops away 20:31 i think the way NCommander is going, the other 2 soko prizes will go away anyways 20:31 <{Demo}2> addtionally on pickup itll loop through all objects on the level and if that bit is set it will delob() them 20:31 once the one is picked up 20:31 <{Demo}2> yeah thats the part i forgot to state cause it was implied in my head but then i realized it wasnt actually implied 20:32 K2, what are the prize types? I only saw "oR, bag, and CoMR 20:32 NCommander - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/21bf24f26fac2184041e365777eb1183092bc42a 20:32 sokoban end round two ^ 20:33 and then i changed the oilskin sack to a magic marker 20:34 K2, thanks. I'm defining them all as special objects as their own class, and then adding special behavior 20:34 cool 20:36 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 20:38 ""Once you put one of ours on, you'll never want to take it off!"" who said that? 20:38 I'm in a shop, slex 20:40 sweet! I just solved the tengu intrinsic bit 20:40 cool! 20:40 thanks for reminding me of it hothraxxa 20:40 SOKOBAN_PRIZE("sokoban prize (bag of holding)"), 20:40 SOKOBAN_PRIZE("sokoban prize (magic marker)"), 20:40 SOKOBAN_PRIZE("sokoban prize (cloak of protection)"), 20:40 SOKOBAN_PRIZE("sokoban prize (cloak of magic resistance)"), 20:40 SOKOBAN_PRIZE("sokoban prize (amulet of flying)"), 20:40 SOKOBAN_PRIZE("sokoban prize (amulet of reflection)"), 20:40 wait! don't push that yet i haven't found a tengu 20:40 Ok, got that defined 20:40 it was on my to-do already but was low priority 20:41 hothraxxa: it's going into 0.3.2 20:41 What was the intristic bit? 20:41 evilhack has partial intrinsics like sporkhack 20:42 and when i ported over xnethack pets can get intrinsic code, it made a condition where once the player ate a tengu corpse, they got teleportis and tele control immediately from same corpse 20:42 its supposed to be a percentage chance 20:42 yum! 20:43 i have just solved that, now to tweak the odds 20:43 so how will it work, like vanilla? 20:43 sort of 20:43 there could still be a chance to get both at once 20:43 but that would be rare 20:43 ok that's cool 20:43 yeah i like that 20:44 in this first test i had to eat 6 tins of tengu meat to finally get both 20:45 (got lucky on first tin) 20:45 did you get teleportitis first? 20:45 no, control first hah 20:45 the rng was lookingthe other way 20:45 have the odds increased of getting an outcome? 20:45 you mean from 1:1 ? um yeah :) 20:46 well what i mean is what are my hcances of a, b, or c from a tin 20:46 or corpse 20:46 tin or corpse, wont matter which 20:46 naturally 20:46 right now, playing with 1 in 5 chance to get teleportis, i in 12 to get control 20:46 1 in 12 20:47 need to test a bit more 20:47 1 in 12 is a serious reduction from vanilla :( 20:48 1 in 8 iirc 20:48 <{Demo}2> whens slamhack 20:49 wow. i did not know there's 13% chance of poison resistance from tengu. 17% control, 20% teleportitis 20:49 so 1 in 6 not 1 in 8 20:50 hmm ok 20:50 so because of partial resistances for things like poison, you'll always get a 5% increase in poison res eating a tengu 20:51 i would not have noticed. i played healers then orcs 20:51 i never eat tengu in the early game of any variant 20:51 until evilhack 20:52 ok so 20:52 the new chances are this 20:52 20% for teleportis (like vanilla) 20:52 on another topic, aren't pseudodragons poison resistant? 20:52 10% chance for control (because evil) 20:53 hothraxxa yes 20:53 hm. i ask because semismaug looked healthy after eating some corpse or other 20:53 surprised me 20:54 they are stoning resistant, right? 20:56 * NCommander fiddles with the source 20:57 no they arent 20:59 yeah i just looked at the source 20:59 hrm 20:59 they're yellow you know :( 20:59 * NCommander successfully wizard wished for a sokoban prize 20:59 no 21:00 they are brown 21:00 your colors are messed up 21:00 they are? 21:00 look at the source 21:00 K2, ok, we have objects implemented for the sokoban prize 21:00 CLR_BROWN 21:00 nah, i see brown just fine 21:00 NCommander \o/ 21:00 it's because they're pets so inverted 21:01 ah 21:01 so if your pet ate something and became more healthy even though it already has poison res... 21:01 minor issue 21:02 it prob happens in xnethack/splicehack also 21:02 i'm more concerned about it fetching zombie corpses 21:03 but it wants to please you 21:03 'look what i caught daddy' 21:03 its like a cat 21:04 bringing dead shit into the house as an appeasement gift 21:04 well all i have now is a horse and a pony so no worries any more 21:04 a warhorse, maybe 21:04 hothraxxa did you see my commit for 3rd tier pseudodragon? 21:04 i have not 21:05 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ac294cd0e76ae39068ad7ed56065722f027f4e21 21:06 cool. except no stoning resistance, so it'll attack a cockatrice right? 21:06 do dogs and cats? 21:06 i mean if i'm riding 21:07 K2, I still need to add things like glyphs and such (the default is actually @) 21:07 And funny enough, they don't show up in inventory so I need to add more code, but I can now easily catch all the special cases 21:08 since there's already special casing far looking object classes. 21:08 ok 21:08 sounds good 21:08 no wait, the vanilla case is riding a mount and attacking a c, isn't it? then the c hits back and stones the mount 21:08 "You're riding a statue" 21:08 am i recalling correctly? 21:09 Pets won't attack team c unless stoning resistant 21:09 Riding might be special, but I don't think so 21:09 yes but that's not what i said 21:09 i have lost a few mounts to team c 21:09 * NCommander tries to figure out how to define a new glyph 21:09 any c attacking bits would be from vanilla 21:10 only thing i changed with stoning for monsters is that its now slow stoning like for the player 21:10 so if you notice your pet turning to stone, you have about 5 turns to do something about it 21:10 yes. we hate you 21:10 oh. not for the pet part 21:10 hahah 21:10 you love/hate me 21:10 so basically, carry some acid 21:10 or an extra lizard corpse 21:11 and #give it to your pet 21:11 doesn't work for horses, but sure 21:11 EPI - quaffing a potion of acid while hallucating just extends your hallucation 21:11 um it might 21:11 horses will eat ppl food if hungry enough right? 21:12 NCommander hahahah 21:12 food rations, not meat. 21:12 acid trip 21:12 ok so acid blob corpse 21:12 K2, "Wow, good stuff. You turn to stone ..." 21:12 heh 21:12 turn to... stoned? 21:12 lol 21:13 "Turned to stone while stoned" 21:13 K2, actually, SLEX, if you manage to eat team c gives you an INT bonus 21:13 I rather liked that. 21:14 SInce eating team c is a non trivial task 21:14 what about pyrolisk? 21:14 isn't it easy? poly into yellow dragon 21:14 I think it's just stoning monsters. 21:14 ah 21:14 hothraxxa, well yeah, but most people have never successfully eaten a stoner 21:15 i had a girl like that once 21:15 ... EPI - if you do successfully eat team c, you become stoned (as in hallucation) 21:15 "You eat the cockotrice corpse. Your mind opens to new possibilities" 21:15 permahallu 21:16 * NCommander can get behind it 21:16 And make intristic hallucation shuffle the i menu appearances 21:16 Have fun ascending! 21:17 damn, third time that shopkeeper cheats me out of 450 credit, I want to identify stuff! 21:17 what does EPI mean? 21:17 evil patch idea 21:17 ah, nice 21:17 for the record, evilhack does not equal the evil patch idea variant ;) 21:18 although one or two may have slipped in... 21:19 4th time cheated out of credit 21:19 hehe 21:21 NCommander after your sokoban fix, i'll probably go live with evilhack 0.3.2 21:22 we've knocked out quite a few bugs last couple of days 21:22 and i've added the new content i wanted to add 21:22 (for now) 21:24 K2, I'm working on it 21:24 oh no rush 21:24 just saying, this bit will be the last 'big thing' i'm tracking 21:24 i feel like i am forgetting some things though 21:25 oh the iron bar thing, but thats super minor. i will prob figure it out soon 21:25 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:25 do I want magic resistance at the cost of seeing everything in gray shades? 21:26 slex "Artifact specs: Warning, magic resistance and shades of grey if worn. 21:26 " 21:27 I'm in the mines 21:27 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 21:28 Tangles found some good bugs, i've already addressed those 21:28 ^ during his last game 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53484 21:33 slex: why is this shopkeeper's colour inverted, white on yellow? 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:53602 21:35 oops, remembered wrong letter and smeared cream on my face, don't have a towel. Will it wear off? 21:38 better quit until I know what to do about the pie on my face 21:38 save* 21:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> It will 21:39 exit 21:39 oops 21:39 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 21:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> You can wipe your face normally 21:40 <@Shin Umbygashima> Towel does it it one turn iirc 21:40 <@Shin Umbygashima> Wipe is an m-command on my phone's Nethacj 21:42 ah, thanks, will try later. might be better to not keep playing right now, anyway. :) 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 221 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:54187 21:48 K2, what iron bars thing? 21:48 Mickmane, #wipe 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 203 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:54530 21:49 its a direct port over from xnethack - you can use a wand of striking or force bolt spell to break iron bars 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:8681 21:49 the bars have to be in part of a wall thats not flagged as nondiggable 21:49 the issue is if you do zap at iron bars embedded in a nondiggable wall, there's no feedback at all 21:50 nothing happens to the bars of course, thats intended behavior 21:50 but there's no feedback staying your attempt didnt work 21:50 *saying 21:51 * NCommander eats his pizza 21:52 nice 21:53 i had a stab at it awhile ago, i was probably trying to do it with only a couple hrs of sleep, i'll prob have a look at it again 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 227 points, T:999, killed by a shuriken 21:53 it shouldnt be hard to figure out 21:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 263 points, T:459, killed by a gnome 22:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:00 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 110 points, T:421, killed by a bat 22:02 Ya know, this is how I feel about so many things in NetHack: https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=383232 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 10 points, T:376, killed by a fox 22:03 which part of that card is the relevant feeling 22:08 nice. figured out the feedback for iron bars not affected by force bolt/wand of striking 22:08 that wasnt hard 22:08 just needed to do this after getting a decent amount of sleep ;) 22:08 * NCommander kicks NetHack 22:08 WHY DOES THE INVENTORY CODE HAVE TO BE FILLED WITH SO MANY HACKS 22:08 ARGH 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12099 22:09 well, it's based on net-HACK 22:09 bound to be full of haphazardly assembled bits and pieces. :) 22:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Delraven (Sam Hum Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3069 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 221 points, T:1131, killed by a wand 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12928 22:14 https://imgur.com/a/rj21YK0 22:14 finally 22:14 that was incredibly irritating 22:16 Now to add the behavior to the sokoban prize objs 22:16 StatueSurfer, the flavor text 22:16 that's what i figured 22:17 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3d38c8efb4ba20aa20738148c568605523d204aa 22:17 ^ woot 22:17 carrying a splash of venom 22:17 interesting... 22:17 NCommander 22:17 also i like that you had to create an entirely different item class in order to get soko to function 22:18 so the object will remain a sokoban prize forever? 22:18 K2, no, it changes, it's a technical item like venoms 22:18 oh i see 22:18 <{Demo}2> what in tarnation 22:18 K2, the problem is I needed some special code to make them show up in inventory because you can wiz wish for them. 22:19 The venom is in inventory to make sure I didn't rbeak that. "Technical" items have special handling in the inventory display code 22:19 so you can get them in wizard mode but don't affect things like sort_loot 22:19 gotcha 22:20 <{Demo}2> theres definitely a saying for something something mind ur business and shut up unless ur gonna do something but im dubious if this is an optimal or even reasonable way to achieve what is wanted to be done 22:21 {Demo}2, what? 22:22 <{Demo}2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:22 i think he means the three soko prizes 22:22 or not 22:22 demo is trolling again 22:22 pay no heed 22:22 <{Demo}2> im confused 22:22 <{Demo}2> no im serious 22:23 My eyes are falling shut, see you after some sleep. :) 22:23 <{Demo}2> i dont know how to express that im confused why a new item class is warrented 22:23 because K2 wants to do soko prizes in the most obtuse way possible 22:23 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 22:23 <{Demo}2> how is that better than check is_sokoend && in_mklev && Is_sokoprizeItem() in makeobj and setting a bit to mark it as a prize? 22:24 NCommander is working on a method that will make it difficult if not impossible to circumvent 22:24 only one prize for you 22:24 <{Demo}2> i dont understand what it is doing that a million other ways wouldnt do 22:24 {Demo}2, cause there are ways in evilhack to get multiple prizes 22:24 <{Demo}2> and i feel bad asking 22:24 <{Demo}2> or even questioning it 22:24 <{Demo}2> cause i know im not gonna do anything about it 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:57373 22:24 <{Demo}2> cause i cant even get evilhack to build 22:24 * NCommander zaps {Demo}2 with a wand of caring. 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:57376 22:24 lol 22:24 {Demo}2, on Windows? 22:24 a wand of caring 22:25 <{Demo}2> no why would i try to do that 22:25 EPI: wand of disintegration 22:25 {Demo}2, cause you asked about ndnh on Windows. I still didn't fix that stupid display bug 22:25 <{Demo}2> oh no god no 22:25 K2, SLEX got you beat. 22:25 > EPI 22:25 of course 22:25 > you're developing evilhack 22:25 <{Demo}2> the makefiles with sys/unix/setup.h arent working, cant find the include dir 22:26 Cause you have to use the linux's hints 22:26 not unix 22:26 * NCommander ran into that 22:26 ok i gotta get to bed 22:26 a - evil patch idea (being considered) 22:26 gnite all 22:26 see you tomorrow 22:26 Sokoban prizes self-destruct if you cheat on the last level 22:26 <{Demo}2> gnite 22:41 <{Demo}2> ok yeah found the hangup with doing it a sane way 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 367 points, T:1928, killed by a boulder 23:00 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:02 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 23:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a green mold, on T:5274 23:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:17 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 2995 points, T:2918, killed by a snake, while fainted from lack of food 23:28 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44468 23:40 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:44 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided master liches dungeon wide on T:45679 23:51 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving]