00:00 8^P only co-aligned uni's are showing up - guess I gotta kill one for the horn... 00:03 Andrio: ya... I was stupidly moving the promising rings closer to the door for my pets to steal. 00:04 fortunately, next game I started with a =SD and spellbook of charm monster. Pretty much too good to be true so I should YASD any minute now :P 00:11 charm monster OP 00:21 nothing worse than a caster w/low Int (8) - can't id any spellbooks... 00:24 oh jesus, zapm loads stucts directly off disk when restoring saves 00:24 so i guess saves are most likely tied to the machine 00:25 *somewhat* 00:25 Gotta love dying in literally 5 seconds 00:26 well, if they're binary files, endian-ness and struct alignment could be issues 00:26 if you're moving the files between machines 00:26 what a minute, what is the license of zapm 00:29 gimme a gift dammit 00:30 just getting piles of 4-leaf clovers 00:31 this is what primerl's license is based off of, no clue how it differs https://tldrlegal.com/license/aladdin-free-public-license 00:31 but afaict, zapm doesn't have a license 00:32 besides all rights reserved with a little note later in the same document saying this is free, whatever that means 00:33 that aladdin free public license is pretty spooky 00:33 no guard in sight and I still hear "Hey, stop damaging that wall!" 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:14453 00:35 bah 00:36 Giantslayer's a lame blade, but at least it's a step up from daggers 00:38 should be good enuf for castle if I can geno L's 00:39 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- tonehack_ has joined #hardfought 00:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:43 -!- tonehack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:48 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 00:51 this is so cool. I saddled my black unicorn which I can ride. Vapire mage riding a black unicorn. 00:55 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 01:05 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 01:10 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 01:21 wrote the zapm maintainer about the license 01:22 rather, the original author 01:28 <{Demo}2> ugh 01:28 <{Demo}2> im gonna die 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered Scout, her faithful warhorse, on T:39063 01:38 <{Demo}2> summon swarms suck 01:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> Can confirm 01:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> Wands of create monster in mazes :notlikethis: 01:42 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39446 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:39449 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:39553 01:53 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed Y-crad on T:9327 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:39961 01:59 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed Parbalingga on T:9461 02:01 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed Izchak on T:9516 02:08 Who cares about Parbalingga? 02:09 <{Demo}2> uhhhh 02:09 <{Demo}2> those r dangerous letters 02:10 <{Demo}2> ok its a place in indonesia 02:10 The r is probably the least dangerous letter there, except the P. 02:10 <{Demo}2> adds up 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 30511 points, T:11070, caught herself in her own ball of lightning 02:40 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- tonehack_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:43 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:07 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:31 -!- machinespray has joined #hardfought 04:33 -!- machinespray has quit [Client Quit] 04:33 -!- machinespray has joined #hardfought 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23884 04:55 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:58 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:07 oh aosdict was around 05:08 oh holy fuck 05:08 what he said sounds terrible 05:08 god dammit 05:11 The boojum claws you! The boojum claws you! You suddenly vanish! 05:11 Tangles: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-11 08:15 EDT: that crash makes absolutely no sense, apparently hack.c somehow thought maxlunar was punished when he wasn't, and therefore ended up trying to unplace a nonexistant iron chain... no idea why it would do that 05:11 What even does that mean? I was already invisible and I didn't teleport anywhere. 05:11 i am glad that he seems to handle it very well 05:12 sounds a bit like invis 05:12 @le?boojum 05:12 boojum (J) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire disintegrate shock | Confers: fire disintegrate shock | MR: 90 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw physical, 3d10 claw physical, 0d0 claw teleport | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, flies, seeinvis, nopoly, infravisible 05:12 0d0 claw teleport 05:12 was it on notele? 05:13 No it wasn't. Just a regular gehennom level. 05:13 did you coincidentally teleport to the same position you were before? 05:13 (idek if thats possible) 05:13 (apart from 'shudder') 05:13 Well, I suppose that's possible, but I should have been prompted because I have TC. 05:13 oh.. 05:14 Unless it was a 'shudder' or 'feel momentarily disoriented' but I got neither of those messages (and I think the second only applies if you have the amulet) 05:15 Anyway, just wasn't sure if it was something bad, looks like not. 05:15 does pino know about spork? 05:15 @s?boojum 05:15 boojum (J) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire disintegrate shock | Confers: fire disintegrate shock | MR: 90 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw physical, 3d10 claw physical, 0d0 claw teleport | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, flies, seeinvis, nopoly, infravisible 05:16 same anyway :) 05:16 @s?basilisk 05:16 No such monster. 05:16 @s?nazgul 05:16 Nazgul (W) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 18 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 25 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon level drain, 2d25 breath sleep, 2d8 scream stun | Alignment: -17 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, seeinvis, nopoly, undead, stalker 05:17 I wonder where k2 got those from... maybe he made them up. 05:17 got what? 05:17 basilisk 05:17 what does it do? 05:17 actually i can check myself, sorry 05:18 I don't know - was hoping to find out (one just showed up) 05:18 s/(check)/\1 it/ 05:19 * stenno notices once again that 'evilhack' is also the name of a minecraft mod apparently 05:19 @g?basilisk 05:19 No such monster. 05:20 @sl?basilisk 05:20 :| 05:20 * Taking some creative license here. Bottom line, the basilisk template 05:20 * is a larger, faster and all-around more deadly version of the cockatrice. 05:20 comments in the code. 05:20 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/monst.c#L217-L230 05:20 yeahyeah 05:20 4 attacks man 05:21 spd 12? 05:21 I assumed it would have a gaze attack (from HP), but seems not,. 05:21 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:21 gaze petrify is a bit too evil imho :P 05:21 its slex evil 05:21 speak of the devil 05:22 heh 05:22 theres a black dragon here. Maybe I can line things up and get the basilisk disintegrated 05:23 actually 05:23 oh that was a disconnect, not a join, derp 05:23 @g?beholder 05:23 beholder (e) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 3 | Res: cold | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Attacks: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 2d4 gaze cancellation, 2d4 bite physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, nopoly, infravisible 05:24 Status of the basilisk (chaotic): Level 15 HP 63(82) AC -11. 05:24 oof 05:24 -11 ac is super tough 05:24 yeah 05:25 It's dead now :) 05:25 beholder is also in evil... 05:26 generates in the DoD 05:26 yeah I've seen a couple this game already. First one at Medusa. 05:26 what can you do against those 05:26 level 10 lmao 05:26 might generate in soko zoo then 05:27 The vampire bat is disintegrated! The seemingly dead vampire bat suddenly reconstitutes and rises as a vampire mage! 05:27 do you basically need reflection or see them before they see you? 05:27 ohai 05:27 but... it was disintegrated! 05:27 I think they usually generate asleep. 05:28 just put the blindfold on as soon as you see it (the really evil part is they are not visible with telepathy) 05:29 The blast of disintegration whizzes by you! The vampire mage is disintegrated! (now stay dead!) 05:29 makes a bit sense for gazes 05:29 rip 05:30 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:31 And then it was un-disintegrated. 05:39 (you probably know by now that stoning them doesn't work either) 05:40 (at least, not the first time.) 06:06 crapola - orange and yellow D dropped - gray didn't 06:08 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:15 Morning 06:20 got a healer that picked up orange and yellow GSM in Ludios - got crappy AC:-3 so it looks like I'll have to go for YGSM (first time) before I head down to castle 06:20 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 06:20 oh, wait - never did healer quest, but I think there may be some more dragons there 06:23 omg - stupid me - I have wands of undead turning 8^P (it's getting late) - the corpse must be gone by now 06:37 trying to farm this gray D 8^P 06:42 woohoo! after 8 rez's ^^ 06:42 wow 06:42 5% chance per shot 06:43 The mighty RNG has blessed you, then. 06:45 well, I had 5 more chances so that comes out to about 49% chance of getting a drop so around 1/2 1/2 06:46 chance of getting GDSM = (1 - 0.95^n), where n is the number of charges of undead turning 06:48 the cool part was I rez'ed the blue dragon and left before the black one disintegrated me so if I pop in and out (to lower my satiety), I should be able to get shock and disintegration resistance 06:48 but that'll be tomorrow - back to camp in Minetown 06:48 hehe 06:48 which variant were you playing? 06:49 hdf-362 06:49 vanilla 06:49 ah 06:50 did they add that you can get disint res by eating black dragon, or was that always in and I am just more forgetful than usual? 06:50 that's in vanilla 06:50 cool 06:52 what's lame about this game is, I was gifted a Giantslayer, but I gotta use it as my main weapon (beats scalpels and daggers) 06:58 Long swords are decent weapons though 06:59 aye - good enough to slay dragons (in my case) 07:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:25710 07:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:18 r - finger of death 7 attack 0% 120% 07:18 ! 07:18 * NCommander can cast it at zero fail 07:19 Congrats 07:20 now you can finger Rodney to your satisfaction ^^ 07:22 this healer's so squishy I'm thinking of going for Orb of Fate over the Eye (once I get castle wand) 07:26 eraserhead97, I'm not even close to Rodney, I haven't even done the quest 07:28 oh, wow 07:28 you have reflection? 07:29 magic resistance is enough to not die from it too, right? 07:33 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Pri Ang Fem Law) killed the BOFH, on T:38838 07:33 Mickmane, I have intristic MR, and "oR 07:35 I spent over 10k turns in the space base 07:35 yeash 07:35 cool 07:36 interesting role choice you got there, I am a transvestite devil mal cha 07:36 I guess we should not meet in game :) 07:41 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Pri Ang Fem Law) killed Cheesehead Simon, on T:39233 07:44 Space base complete! 07:45 congrats! 07:45 how tough was it? 07:46 hm, not seeing your game available to watch 07:46 oh, us 07:49 hm, not seeing you there eitehr 07:49 NCommander, did you save? 07:49 yeah 07:49 I'm lagging a bit 07:49 ah. wanted to look at your stats to compare and see if I could go spacebase 07:49 I need a magic missile, any chance for finding that? 07:50 magic whistle* 07:51 Mickmane, dip a normal whistle in a potion of gain level to upgrade it 07:51 oh, lol, thanks! 07:52 now if I knew if I had one, should I just dip one into all potions and see what happens? 07:52 what other #dipping stuff is there that's different to vanilla? especially for identifying? 08:04 -!- machinespray has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:06 Mickmane, that's actually from SLASH'EM, polypiling is also different; items will revert back to their base form after a few hundred turns (unless dipped in a potion of restore ability) 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1419 08:07 ah, I forgot about the polyrevert 08:07 but now that you mentoin it, I remember 08:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:18 * NCommander waves to LarienTelrunya 08:18 the BOFH has fallen 08:18 oh, hiya! 08:19 hi NCommander! and what, you managed to complete the space base with all sub-branches? 08:19 LarienTelrunya, yup 08:19 NCommander told me I could upgrade my whistle by dipping into gain level potin, now I'm dipping it into all potions in hope of identifying something or even get a magic whistle :) 08:20 I got the artifact, and then returned to the main dungeon. I also found a co-aligned altar + priest, but I only managed to get a little AC out of him :( 08:20 wtf now it's me who can't connect to the hardfought.org page 08:20 yeah protection from priests is now much harder to get 08:20 LarienTelrunya, took me awhile looking at the source to realize you needed to donate 4000 and not 6000 08:20 I'm broke, left my money with shopkeepers. :) 08:20 oh, good to know! 08:21 yeah goodbye protection racket :P 08:21 are there any other dipping effects with potions? 08:22 hm, I think the one that crashed on my head without effect, is that acid when I have acid res? 08:22 Mickmane: sickness poisons some weapons, acid makes items look dull, invis makes the item invisible, see invis makes an invisible one visible again, polymorph changes the item, etc. 08:22 if you get hit with acid while being resistant, there's probably no message 08:23 ah, good, then that's probably acid. thanks 08:23 LarienTelrunya, can you see the hazy status if you polymorph an item? (I haven't polypiled in this game yet) 08:23 dipping my whistle in it just gets 'interesting', to get dull I need some other object? 08:23 NCommander: in slex you can! (in slashem you can't) 08:23 Mickmane: probably requires a weaopn 08:23 weapon 08:23 blah 08:24 stupid keyboard :P 08:24 ok, will try 08:24 LarienTelrunya, cool, I also found a wand of make invisible but don't have the intristic. How do I make my entire inventory invisible when I finally get that intristic? 08:24 are elven weapons immune? without walking far I only have that, a club, and a rubber hose in reach 08:24 Mickmane: uhh... not sure 08:24 is an invisible inventory good? 08:25 NCommander: you don't need any intrinsic to have invisible items :P just drop it all on the ground and zap the stack with the wand 08:25 and yes, of course it's good, because most nymphs and other item-stealers don't have see invisible 08:25 but I have an invisible potion and trying to name it it says I'd never recognize another one 08:25 oh, cool, was wondering if it's that 08:25 LarienTelrunya, don't I need to be able to see it to pick it up :) 08:26 Mickmane: well yeah, because it was already invisible when you originally found it! 08:26 oh! 08:26 NCommander: why would that be the case? like, would you be unable to pick up something IRL while you have your eyes closed? :P 08:26 I'd likely fall on my face if I tried that 08:26 * NCommander has balance issues 08:26 how would you recognize your stuff after making it all invisible on the floor? 08:27 I mean, tell a blue potion from a green one? 08:27 well anyway, of course you can still feel the invisible items, so you can obviously still pick them up 08:27 Mickmane: if it wasn't invisible to start with, its appearance will be known when you first see the item, and stay so even if you then make it invisible 08:27 ok, friendly game then :) 08:28 think of it like the character putting a label that says "green potion" on the potion, which persists (and somehow doesn't become invisible :P) when you make the item invisible 08:28 LarienTelrunya, I'm now ready to go find the quest and the alignment portals. DOes the later give a hint if I'm on the level? 08:28 NCommander: yes, but only rarely 08:28 1 in 1000 or so chance per turn while you're on the level 08:28 I am imagining ribbons on the bottle necks instead of labels, but otherwise similar. :) 08:29 the messages for the presence of an alignment portal are: "You feel the presence of some sort of force.", "There seems to be something special about this place.", "You detect the presence of an alignment quest portal!", "You hear an evil figure taunting you to step through the magic portal!", 08:29 and while hallucinating it adds a couple other possible messages :D 08:29 alignment portal was like nightmare and stuff? 08:30 yes: nightmare, beholder and vecna 08:30 Is the Nightmare level still the same, with the clown and forest and stuff? 08:30 one day I'm planning to add an unaligned alignment quest too 08:30 hehe 08:30 Mickmane: every alignment quest has 4 completely different maps to choose from 08:30 I could see if I remember how to make the levels and suggest one 08:31 well I already have ideas for what the unaligned quest is supposed to be like 08:31 oh, that's new. back ages ago it was one for each, nightmare original was a bit very boring, then was updated with Nightmare's Nightmare level. :) 08:31 just need to find time and motivation to actually write them 08:31 Mickmane: wait what? nightmare original? wtf? 08:31 Just one open room with some fences or something, nothing much in it 08:31 which version was that? 08:31 i.e. which variant? SLASH 6? 08:31 0.0.6 08:32 15+ years ago 08:32 I made the nightmare level and Ruggo's holiday resort, but they didn't like the resort, only added the nightmare one :) 08:32 "SLASH 6 is archived at Ali Harlow's website here. Other versions may be found in various dusty corners of the Web." 08:33 that's... helpful :P 08:33 hm, need to make more coffee 08:33 I remember Ali. 08:33 Mickmane: holy shit you're one of the original SLASH devs??? 08:33 nooooo! 08:33 I am no dev, I needed a lot of help to even get the spooky messages right. I could draw levels, though. 08:34 so you wrote the spooky messages? 08:34 also got a lot of help in compiling things :) 08:34 yeah 08:34 I need to make coffee, brb 08:34 also, Ruggo's holiday resort? I sure hope you didn't delete that and whatever other levels you created, because now would be the time for them to finally see the light of day, with SLEX :D 08:34 Mickmane: please give me all your custom levels *bundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundle* ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 08:35 * NCommander watches Mickmane become overencumbered by bundles 08:35 * NCommander decides to play a bit more SLEX 08:35 * LarienTelrunya already has 3 terminals open to watch all the people that are currently playing slex :D 08:36 !who 08:36 LarienTelrunya, any tips on finding the alignment portals? 08:36 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh362] Qwesti [nh362] MaxLunar [slex] NCommander [slex] | [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex] ettin [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:36 LarienTelrunya, oh, I also found a spellbook of finger of death and can cast it at zero fail :) 08:36 NCommander: well as I said already, 1 in 1000 chance of a message while on a level with such a portal; otherwise, seek everywhere on dlvl 15-49 ;) 08:36 yay! 08:36 just don't do what I did (zapping it in . direction) 08:36 lol, was just thining if I could send you ruggo's, if I find it. 08:37 lol, what does bundle even mean in that context? :) 08:37 I have all my old nethack directories, from OS/2 to an USB to a new hdd with broadband and windoze... I just need to find my way through that labyrinth. 08:37 bundlebundlebundle! swarming swing bundle :D gimme your levels! *fleece bundle* 08:38 * Mickmane dives into the nether regions of my harddrive. 08:43 Mickmane: when you come back, https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2601 and https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2408 and also https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2179 :D 08:43 I'm waiting for the browser to wake up, what's that? 08:43 quotes about bundling ;) 08:43 ah, will look at later 08:50 This doesn't look like ludious >.> 08:51 NCommander: yep, it isn't ludios 08:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 954 points, T:2290, killed by a rock piercer 08:51 LarienTelrunya, not sure if it's worth exploring 08:52 NCommander: probably not 08:58 hrmpf, I found a dictionary with all sorts of nethack and slashem versions, including cvs and tst and some patched versions, but no levels so far 08:58 aww 08:58 not giving up yet 08:59 this game is bananas! 2 random saddles before level 10! 09:02 w00t 09:02 ring of conflict 09:06 NCommander: oh another hint for portal finding, they can only appear on levels that don't have other branch entrances. So if you find a pink staircase, or a portal to e.g. Ludios or Sam's black market, it means that particular level can't have the alignment quest portals ;) 09:06 LarienTelrunya, that I knew :) 09:07 Right, spider level 09:07 * NCommander remembers passing this 09:08 "spider" level that got replaced by ludios! ;) 09:10 LarienTelrunya, was actually hoping for the original 09:10 LarienTelrunya, speed of boots would be very nice 09:10 ah, no extrinsic speed yet? 09:11 LarienTelrunya, nope 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4556 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5356 09:21 * NCommander needs a break 09:21 can you decompile an nhushare file? 09:21 I'm not even sure what that is 09:22 a file that has the entire dungeon in compiled format 09:23 comes with the distribution 09:23 I found one that has a bit of plain text that has me think it has the level: 09:23 Welcome to King Ruggo's summer retreat. 09:23 Open to all registered members. 09:23 We wish you a nice holiday. 09:23 Be sure to hire a boat. 09:23 Do not feed the wild animals! 09:23 Step forward to the reception, please. 09:23 Reception this way. 09:24 Mickmane: I might be missing something but why not check the source? 09:24 it starts with listing all .lev files 09:24 you're missing that i'm looking for a level I made like 2002, that wasn't accepted by the slashem dev team 09:25 I'm in the depths of my harddrive :) 09:25 I might be able to decompile it 09:25 But as long as we can map the whole thing, it's not hard to recreate the level 09:25 oh, then I'll note the path (I keep losing the directory while I keep looking). 09:26 holycrap 09:26 i just realized junethack is in a month 09:26 less than one 09:27 WEW 09:30 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 09:30 NCommander, can you pm me an email to send the file to? (well, 2 files, one's a backup and one's the one from the tst directory) 09:30 michael@casadevall.pro 09:30 should I .zip the dirs (I left the names untouched) 09:31 Yeah. I dunno if/when I'll get around to it 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6605 09:31 I'll have to do things to make it work, and I continue to be extremely tired in real life ;.; 09:31 aw, sorry to hear that, the tired I mean 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7034 09:31 maybe I could ask in #nethack if somoene knows how to do it? 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 18530 points, T:7066, killed by a purple worm 09:40 sent 09:40 thanks for trying! :) 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Mon Gia Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3285 09:48 what I don't understand is where the uncompiled version could have been/may be hidden 09:49 you might want to do a drive search for files ending in .des 09:49 ^- Mickmane 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:40505 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40509 09:55 on 2TB drive? :) 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9332 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 17491 points, T:9623, killed by an energy vortex 09:57 -!- machinespray has joined #hardfought 09:58 Mickmane, patience isa virtue 09:58 What's patience? ;P 09:58 I'm doing a search on the directory that has the USB stick stuff on it. If it's not in there, I doubt it's anywhere else, and that's just 6GB 10:04 might as well continue playing, eh, dipping my whistle into potions :) 10:07 crashed on head potion is indeed acid, but it didn't ask me to give it a new name, shame 10:08 Killed by a milky healing potion 10:08 oh, ouch 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3277 10:10 The cat died to a freaking grid bug 10:11 that's... one nasty grid bug! 10:11 It's been shown that a grid bug that somehow manages to reach level 1 actually gains the ability to destroy rings and wands 10:11 Mm 10:12 Maybe the cat rolled snake eyes for hit points. 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1968 points, T:3686, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:26884 10:15 +1 banded mail worth hanging on to? 10:17 -!- machinespray has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:19 my silver dragon doesn't like wimpy golden dragon meat? 10:20 Mickmane: since you're a slashem dev, I'd have expected you to know that in slashem, monsters don't eat their own letter ;) 10:20 Andrio, do they start at level 0? 10:20 I am not a slashem dev 10:20 I just made a couple of levels, the source code scares me 10:21 also, that was 2002, I'm old and forgetful 10:21 Without Ali and Darshan (the two names I remember most) I would not have been able to add the levels even for testing. :) 10:22 I like making maps though. :) 10:22 And the map files were simple enough for me to understand. 10:23 Mickmane: great! please make more, they'll be added to slex if they're good! ♥ 10:23 haha, I'd have to remember how to do that. But I might when I get inspired. First I have to play more of the game though. 10:23 NCommander, level 2 10:23 I think 10:24 Grid bugs are level 0 10:24 That could have horrible consquences if playing a variant that makes you suffer wand effects when popped 10:25 "The grid bug shock you. Your wand of death explodes. You're envolped in a field of pure energy. You die. Do you want your possessions identified?" 10:25 NCommander: can happen in slex ;) 10:25 ouch 10:25 Can happen in vanilla slash'em I think 10:26 are there any weapons/armour/other stuff I shouldn't put into my BoH, beyond the vanilla things? 10:27 well there's also chests and ice boxes of holding, but they probably won't fit in anyway 10:27 oh, that sounds cool 10:27 is an ice box waterproof? 10:27 a regular one isn't, but the ice box of waterproofing is 10:27 ah, nice! 10:27 but there's also oilskin of holding, right? 10:28 oh, the choices :)) 10:28 no 10:28 the chest of holding is waterproof though 10:28 hm, I thought I'd seen is mentioned. 10:28 that's still neat :) 10:28 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Mon Akt Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:41217 10:28 yeah someone mentioned an oilskin bag of holding, but that doesn't exist in slex 10:29 how strange! :) 10:29 are there any nasty bags that can make stuff vanish, besides cursed BoH? 10:29 they probably exist in FIQhack 10:29 yes, there are bags, ice boxes and large boxes of digestion 10:29 oh, ouch 10:30 good thing I found 2 sacks and a boH instead! 10:30 dumb human (monster) lol 10:30 What do bags of digestion do? 10:31 * NCommander is still feeling incredily ill 10:31 Sick enough I don't even want to really play :( 10:31 the pets that can wear stuff, will they put on a nifty cloak I want stolen instead? (for example) 10:31 when opened, the bag of digestion has a BUC-dependant chance of simply erasing all the contents. 10:31 aw man NCommander 10:31 Mickmane: that can happen, yes 10:31 NCommander: here, have a potion of full healing! 10:31 but my dragon can do the stealing, right? 10:31 yeah 10:31 LarienTelrunya, that sounds abusable to get rid of riders if you can get them into your inventory (which can be done) 10:31 * NCommander quaffs the potion of full healing 10:32 NCommander: really? don't they revive when picked up? 10:32 You feel better. You vomit. You have an empty bottle 10:32 LarienTelrunya, you have to have a hostile gelantious cube pick them up 10:32 Then steal it as a nymph 10:32 oh :D 10:32 lol 10:32 Then you can (in vanilla) put it in a cursed BoH 10:32 And loot repeatively until gone. 10:33 hmm, I wonder if that's still in the variant that calls itself 3.62? 10:33 disarm doesn't work on pets, does it? 10:33 it does 10:34 LarienTelrunya, I'd have to try it in wizard mode 10:34 stethoscope could tell me if my pet is wearing anything? 10:34 oh, cool 10:34 Mickmane: wand of probing can 10:34 Mickmane, wand of probing is the best way 10:34 thanks both of you! 10:34 * NCommander hears an echo 10:34 I forgot that wand 10:34 Magicbane can if you attack your pet (obviously not a good idea, as magicbane can also cancel your pet) 10:35 hehe 10:35 or murder it 10:35 or stun it 10:35 NCommander, you can also get rid of riders by filling the level with other monsters 10:35 I don't think that's considered a bug 10:35 jilles, yeah, but this is other behaviors :) 10:36 It's actually inhertied from the troll behavior (as well as yo feel less harassed) 10:36 Except riders always revive, can't be tinned, can't be eaten ... (well, its a instadeath), and autorevive on pickup 10:37 Unless you fill up the entire Astral Plane with monsters and wait around a while 10:37 right, that also applies to trolls 10:37 mm 10:38 Also in vanilla, you can disarm pets using a whip, and it doesn't even count as abuse. 10:42 only problem is bullwhips are realyl rare 10:44 Mm 10:44 A lot of demons carry them though. 10:45 I've seen one somewhere in the slex game :) 10:45 oh, LarienTelrunya, could you look at my message history? the monster description is a bit screwed up 10:45 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 10:45 only in the history, I mean 10:48 SLEX seems to change some of the loot tables, I've gotten a lot more grease than I ever see in vanilla 10:50 "5d7, explodes - proximity - acid damage 10:50 " 10:50 means I won't be affected by damage if resistant? 10:50 This game is mocking me with all the trap doors. I fell down one past Minetown, then fell in two more adjacent to each other on the way back 10:50 ouch 10:51 Ok, turned out I was unaffected :) 10:54 'Halt! You're under arrest!' The watchman turns to flee. 10:54 lol 10:55 They're trapped in the temple with me 10:56 silver shield is reflection, right? 10:57 Yes 10:57 Mickmane, no, not in SLEX. It's polished engraved shield in SLEX 10:57 oh, what's silver shield? jus trandom appearance? 10:57 Believe so. That comes from LarienTelrunya; I made the same mistake 10:57 well, at least they're already angry, so it's OK if I piff daggers the watch captain while my cat kills him. Totally not my doing. 10:57 ah, well, ac seems better than my old shield anyway 10:58 hehe 10:58 Andrio, your spree of crime is here by ended 10:58 It was a cursed freaking dagger 10:58 Also 10:58 ouch 10:59 Do not pass Go. I started with 200 zorkmids. 10:59 aww 11:00 what's sticky (on a cursed ring of invis)? 11:00 A cursed ring of invis. 11:00 in slex, the sticky might mean something 11:01 also, I get "You sense a certain tension." LarienTelrunya, are you around? 11:01 Mickmane: message history can get weird with monster descriptions 11:01 Mickmane, tension room on the level 11:01 what's that tension room? 11:01 sticky cursed items are harder to remove, e.g. nymphs won't steal them and they also won't come off if you polymorph 11:01 LarienTelrunya, can you fix that? :) 11:01 Mickmane: not really 11:01 aw 11:01 Do rings come off anyway if you polymorph? 11:01 dunno why it even happens 11:01 thanks for the info though 11:02 Andrio, if the form you change into lacks fingers (I don't think its possible in vanilla, although the code exists) 11:02 By the way, if the watchmen are coming after you, it is highly recommended to get some good photos of them. 11:02 * NCommander plays a bit more SLEX 11:04 good luck :) 11:05 what's a tension room? 11:05 Probably a not a room where you can go super saiyan 11:06 a room with themed monsters, often the same letter, sometimes also a room with monsters of the same color 11:06 haha 11:06 oh, then that might have sparked all the H 11:06 Oh god, giants? 11:06 Titans? 11:06 Nasty Slex giants? 11:06 just various funny giant slex H 11:06 brb 11:07 I fled at first, but now I have a pet with a good sword :) 11:08 my wrists don't like me today, it seems, maybe I type too much ;P 11:09 I went and got some tops cut off holey socks, but the first two I grabbed were one too tight and the other too loose 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh4] zd2 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 27649 points, T:2616, killed by a rothe 11:11 haha, You enter a killer room! This is actually an ADOM tension room. 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh4] ZD3 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5673 points, T:104, killed by a fox 11:15 does a hidden lizard corpse de-stone? 11:15 why wouldn't it? 11:15 it's slex 11:15 Mickmane: yes 11:15 thanks :) 11:16 think I can tame a major demon? 11:16 (peaceful annoying desert enemy Farter) 11:16 Mickmane: it's humanoid, so it should work 11:16 are some more difficult than others? 11:17 covetous monsters are generally hard to tame, but attire charm doesn't work on a percentage chance normally; if the monster is humanoid and not a boss and not "cannot be tamed" (pokedex), it will simply work 11:17 well, the wotsch devil was too stupid, now I used the ability 11:17 ah, cool! 11:17 what's pokedex anyway? 11:17 yeah the wotsch devil is not humanoid 11:18 pokedex is what you get if you farlook a monster, i.e. the description and stuff 11:18 oh, I forgot to read your quotes from earlier 11:18 did you ever play pokemon? :D 11:18 I can't figure out why I'm fumbling 11:18 NCommander: the mary-sue probably hit you a couple of times 11:18 ohok 11:18 her attacks gives you temporary fumbling 11:18 yeah I was wondering what it means, and no. the daughter of an aquaintance liked it 20 or so years ago, is more than I want to know even. :) 11:19 or you run over ice? I found some ice spots that were not easy to tell from the rest 11:19 and of course the mary-sue is totally not inspired by Anabella Swansteele from 50 Shades of Twilight :P 11:19 Mary Sue is a term from writing/reading, when an author puts a character resembling themselves, but overpowered, into a story. 11:19 It's either the in-game thing that records info about Pokémon you catch, or a website or other resource that gives such info. 11:19 I don't know what your source is 11:20 The Slex Pokédex is more like the latter 11:20 ah 11:20 yeah, guess what the authors of Twilight and 50 Shades of Fucked Up did! they put themselves into a fanfic and made their character's overpowered with some "minor" "flaws" (fumbling), but somehow managed to sell millions of copies of that fanfic 11:20 Heh, 50 shades of fucked up 11:20 ah! 11:20 so, it does fit :) 11:21 fanfic about what original story though? :) 11:21 I found some vampire series, true blood maybe? was Mary Sue 11:21 50 Shades was originally a twilight fanfic actually 11:22 50 shades gives fanfics a bad name 11:22 And BDSM. 11:22 the author had to rename the characters when she decided to publish it; originally it had some other name (the greatest person of the world or something) and the chars had the same names as the twilight ones 11:22 Andrio: one is more important to me than the other 11:22 I thought twilight was some vampire stuff 11:23 oh god, why would anyone consider 50 shades anything remotely resembling BDSM? it's just domestic abuse 11:23 but then, I don't really want to know anything about either film/book whatever they were 11:23 LarienTelrunya: have you seen the comparisons that are floating around online? in some places it really was just changing the names :) 11:23 mm 11:24 LarienTelrunya, do you want to give me an email address to see if you can glean any sense from the NHUSHARE file(s)? 11:24 Mickmane: well I looked at the one from slex; no idea how to decompile it, sorry 11:24 oh, ok 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had a pair of gloves called fumbling entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:27855 11:27 fucking asshole! 11:28 he's trolling me 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5827 11:28 I guess there's a reason it's called evil? 11:28 He's almost as evil in vanills. 11:28 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 11:28 well he is anhur 11:29 chaotics like to be evil 11:29 Chaotic doesn't mean evil. 11:29 i didn't say it did, did i 11:29 I'm cuddling with a Chaotic Good friend right now. At least, probably... possibly Chaotic Neutral 11:30 * Andrio isn't sure of the rules 11:30 there are no rules. i make my own 11:30 heh. 11:30 "You displaced your doll mistress called Friendly the mount fucking moon hiker." what happened to its role/race? 11:30 They were displaced. 11:30 Mickmane: if he levels up, his rank can change 11:30 oh! thanks, that makes sense 11:31 just like your own rank changes if you level up (from 1 to 30) 11:31 he has a male doll mistress? 11:31 I'm still not sure what a doll mistress is. :) 11:31 a race in slex... 11:31 doll mistresses are from touhou, but I don't know the specifics 11:31 role! :D 11:31 what's touhou? 11:31 well i hear they're quite lifelike and anatomically accurate 11:32 touhou is a japanese shoot-em-up/bullet hell game I think, but I never played it 11:32 oh, you mean they're those lifelike dolls I've seen on some crime shows? 11:32 yes, that's where i saw them 11:32 well, this one walks and talks! :) 11:32 hmm apparently this is what the doll mistresses might look like: https://banner2.kisspng.com/20180508/yaq/kisspng-sugar-barbie-doll-mistress-of-ceremonies-barbie-do-5af1e9d6e33da2.6772422815258034789308.jpg (warning: possibly NSFW) 11:32 not sure if it's male or female, I guess it should be female? 11:33 how is that in any way nsfw? 11:33 that looks like a normal barbie 11:33 well imagine your boss walking in on you while you have such a sexy pic on your screen :P 11:33 * hothraxxa isn't sure where amy works though 11:34 I don't see any sexy on that picture 11:34 me neither, but everyone is different 11:34 a boss might think you're playing with little girls' dolls 11:34 hehe 11:34 -!- nhmall has left #hardfought 11:34 my boss, when i had one, would not have cared 11:34 could be worse than naked adult activities 11:34 * NCommander glares at the fot 11:34 *fort 11:34 No Croesus, no gold :P 11:35 NCommander: well yeah that was to be expected 11:35 can it be bones, or is that just another level that might not actually be there? 11:35 LarienTelrunya, oh, you changed the fort not to have that? 11:35 like your Sam the other day? 11:35 Mickmane: the latter; he's in the spider caves but they got replaced by a Ludios clone 11:35 the trump croesus. he lied about the gold 11:35 or because fort was moved 11:35 NCommander: naaaaaah, you're not really in Fort Ludios; Croesus and the gold only appear in Ludios when it actually exists 11:36 LarienTelrunya, might as well have thrown a !oConf, for all I understand that about spider caves replaced... 11:36 ;P 11:36 that said, it's very theoretically possible for Croesus to spawn randomly, anywhere, but he won't have the gold if he does 11:36 Mickmane: get down to the depth where all those branches are and maybe you'll understand ;) 11:36 maybe 11:36 :)) 11:37 LarienTelrunya, fair enough, I did get enough XP to level up so it wasn't a total bust 11:37 There is an amber flash as a +5 pair of gauntlets of fumbling hits the altar. 11:37 i bet they're fireproof too 11:37 I'd probably wear those 11:37 polypile them 11:37 Just not in the Sokoban zoo 11:37 Or that 11:37 i like the way you think, young jilles 11:38 why not polypile in sokoban zoo? 11:38 oh, never mind me 11:38 Because it's more convenient on the first floor. 11:38 i have perfectly good +3 leather gloves. +2 ac is not worth fumbling to me at this point 11:39 ah 11:39 if hey were boots i'd have to reconsider 11:39 I think I just conflated the not wearing the gloves on sokoban with the polipile comment in between :) 11:39 i've killed dozens of soldiers and none of them have been wearing boots 11:40 my luck with footwear in this game is dismal 11:40 the first quote doesn#t really help with why bundle 11:41 Mickmane: büschelbüschelbüschel! :D 11:41 Das hilft auch nicht. :) 11:42 I mean, when, long ago, in some usenet newsgroup someone was accused (which stuck) to have three breasts after saying bouncebouncebounce, I understand that. 11:43 Mickmane: Wir-wol-len-dei-ne-Haa-re-bü-scheln! ♥ 11:43 Wat-da-dek 11:43 hek* 11:43 oh, you just want a pony tail? Or do you want those that fell to the floor when I reduced the length (the year was up, after all) with a shaver? 11:43 what newsgroup would that have been? most wouldn't draw the conclusion that there are three breasts involved. maybe 2 breasts and 1 testicle 11:43 rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan 11:43 if I typed that right 11:44 around 2000 or so 11:44 I think the poster's name started with an L, something female, but not sure. I'm terrible with names. 11:45 Mickmane: hopefully they're very long :) 11:45 one year's worth of hair. I reduce them to 1cm or so on top, less all around, when they get long enough to tie and get on my nerves. 11:46 okay, sf and especially robert jordan, that makes sense 11:46 wiith cutting bits off first to spare the shaver, it's not that long. 11:46 hehe 11:47 hey, but I got a bag with tons of tiny rubber bands, was only 1.40 or so at Rossman, looks like it's for little girls, in heart form, who cares. :) 11:47 well, not rubber, the ones that don't hurt 11:47 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 11:48 anyway, the explanation here actually tells me something. You treat slex like it's a bushel of hair, pulling in everything in reach? :) 11:50 ah, my doll mistress IS female 11:50 Found the quest portal 11:50 congrats :) 11:50 NCommander: yay! hopefully you're up to the task of removing all those endless undead! 11:51 #turn undead is stupidly powerful 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 17739 points, T:11718, killed by a white unicorn, while sleeping 11:51 for this quest 11:52 and I have drain resistance 11:52 wait, what role is that? 11:53 Priest 11:53 mm 11:53 I totally forgot that move exists 11:53 It's amazing when you can use it 11:53 Useless in the endgame cause you can't reach your god in hell 11:54 what was "You hear a nether voice." again? 11:55 Mickmane: means there's a fountain on the level 11:55 A water demon 11:55 oh, thanks 11:55 I wonder again if I'm equipped enough to dip in fountains 11:55 Mickmane: well what do you expect to get from fountain dipping? 11:55 blank scrolls and potions 11:55 and maybe something nice :) 11:56 Fountains are bad for that. 11:56 ah, well I usually prefer to use a more reliable method of that (water pools) 11:56 well, I wouldn't midn a wish, so why not use them up while blanking stuff? 11:56 if all else fails, you can put all the rustable stuff in a box first and then repeatedly walk into the pool 11:56 wishes from fountains are rather rare in slex 11:56 because it'll use them up 11:56 there's even a rain cloud here 11:56 ah, the rain cloud will very easily blank all your stuff 11:56 yeah, but if I don't use them for dipping, what else will I do with fountains? 11:56 Though if doing so creates pools, that works too. 11:56 LarienTelrunya, I usually pick axe down the first fountain I find near an altar for that purpose explicately 11:56 Drinking? ^^ 11:57 Uncursing things 11:57 fountains can be good for emergency uncursing (4 in 30 chance per dip) 11:57 if you use them all up, you might not have any when you really need one 11:57 drinking is too dangerous, no? 11:57 just don't drink out of a toliet 11:57 lol 11:57 (you can do it in SLEX) 11:57 don't eat the yellow snow ;P 11:57 quaffing fountains is equivalent to playing russian roulette, you can get really good effects but it also has several ways in which it can instakill you :P 11:57 oh geeze - https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2687 11:57 Who submitting that :P 11:58 there, so I might as well dip :) 11:58 Mickmane, toliets can also be used to identify amulets like rings and sinks 11:58 lol 11:58 Ah... 11:58 I've started fountain quaffing in vanills 11:58 oh, interesting! 11:58 Not immediately of course. Have at least 4 luck. 11:58 I probably have no luck. Do I start with any? 11:59 Is the moon fullish? 11:59 I'd have to see it from here to know :) 11:59 I forgot what the game said 11:59 !porn 11:59 LarienTelrunya: The moon is at first quarter; full moon in 5 days. 12:00 why is the command called that? 12:00 Because of keming. 12:00 who's that? 12:00 It stands for 'phase of moon' 12:00 that'd be pom, no? 12:00 when you're using a non-monospace font, the kerning of 'rn' looks a lot like 'm'. 12:00 ah 12:01 I don't like non-monospace fonts :) 12:01 mm 12:01 I do though 12:01 Except when I and l are indistinguishable... 12:01 EPI: conduct to play *hack with non monospace fonts 12:01 Have fun with maze levels! 12:01 I just think monospace is more elegant and easier to read. I use dejavu sans mono 12:01 haha 12:02 What if your terminal emulator lays out the characters in a grid anyway? 12:02 who? 12:02 02:01:39 NCommander: EPI: conduct to play *hack with non monospace fonts 12:02 ah, makes sense 12:03 Andrio, we'll define a special term type that gets rid of that 12:03 hehe 12:03 Clever 12:03 c - a primal cursed list of terminal escape codes 12:03 It weilds itself to your mind. 12:03 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 12:03 Suddenly, the NetHack source code doesn't look so bad! 12:06 * NCommander really wishes he could have a day where he *didn't* feel like death warmed over 12:08 aww 12:08 Oh hey, there's a shop on Dlvl:2 with a boulder in it. Haven't seen that before. 12:08 sure it's not a mimic? 12:08 Pretty sure it's a mimic. 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:28208 12:09 wow! another dagger! anhur, how can i thank you 12:09 WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MAGICBANE? 12:10 I forgot what I wanted to say/check 12:10 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 12:10 maybe he expects you to make one yourself ;P 12:10 so far four daggers and a pair of fumbling gloves 12:11 problem is that my xl is too low 12:11 yay tangles! 12:11 is a fog cloud dangerous? 12:12 slex is dangerous 12:12 hehe 12:12 hothraxxa: getting there. Must've started this game 3 weeks ago. 12:12 Ok, I rmemember there was something about not autopening doors by running into them, is there an option? 12:13 i hate long layoffs, i forget what intrinsics i have and stuff like that 12:14 why am I affected by poison spores, but not by other poison, LarienTelrunya? 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Mon Gia Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7240 12:16 damnit 12:17 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:20 hothraxxa, it could be worse, you could have gotten a standard athame 12:21 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 12:21 that's worse? 12:22 Mickmane, it would be mocking him 12:22 (Magicbane's base item is an athame) 12:23 yes, but how's that worse? 12:23 LarienTelrunya, with what type of food can I tame a felid? 12:26 How can I turn off snowing? I think something read a scroll here earlier, and now I'm freezing again on that level 12:26 also, any use for sand scrolls? 12:28 oh, I even have a wand of probing, huh 12:32 wow vorpal jabberwocks are no joke. 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh4] zd4 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 34279 points, T:4202, killed by a jaguar 12:35 heya 12:37 !who 12:37 Tangles, nope. some variants even have them have the effect of vorpal blade (%5 beheading) 12:37 Mickmane: [hdf-us] every [nh362] yann [nh4] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh362] 12:38 NCommander: yes that's what I meant. 12:39 * NCommander has remembered that the priest quest is a slog 12:39 and double slog on SLEX 12:39 cause so many new undead types 12:39 how goes the evilhack run so far Tangles? 12:39 other than vorpal jabberwocks 12:40 how does Tangles get all that stuff displayed on his screen? 12:41 curses mode 12:41 ah 12:41 how do I get that? 12:42 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Curses_interface#Configuration_Options 12:43 Mickmane, it's somewhat glitchy with SLEX in my experience 12:43 thanks K2, I guess I'll skip it then in slex, NCommander 12:44 bookmarked the otpions anyway :) 12:44 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nethack/k2.nhrc <---- example cfg 12:44 for 3.6.x and variants based off of it 12:45 I'll put that in a file, but I have mine from nao, had to # some lines that slex didn't like 12:46 That's unfortunate 12:46 Major demon got gated in 12:47 awww 12:47 oh, killed, not killed by 12:47 NCommander, in your game? I didn't see you play 12:47 hmm the tileset doesn't work now in nh362? 12:47 Mickmane, I'm on the US server 12:47 I looked there 12:48 thought I'd watch someone while eating, now I'M done eating :) 12:48 btw, how long can I leave the game window sitting there without it going away on me? (connection gets closed while being in just the menu...) 12:48 farafar i havent tested tileset with official 3.6.2, there may have been some tweaks/changes 12:48 K2: It goes well enough :) 12:49 ;) 12:49 But I'm going to have to save it for tomorrow. it's almost 3am here and I have work tomorrow (today) 12:49 sleep well :) 12:50 You hear Baphomet reading a ? scroll of root password detection {0}. 12:50 ugh 12:50 Maximum in-game idle time: 3600 seconds (auto-saved and logged out) 12:50 oh a new release 12:50 back! Mickmane: resistances aren't immunities in slex; poison can still slightly affect you with resistance, but single resistance is enough to prevent the instakill (and double resistance makes you even more resistant) 12:50 thanks, the auto-save is comforting :) 12:51 LarienTelrunya, was that slashem already, or do I remember that from Crawl? 12:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:51 Mickmane: monsters that "can be tamed with food" will be tamed with meat (and also tripe rations, fortune cookies and stuff) if carnivorous, fruits if herbivorous 12:51 "turning off snowing" is not possible; snow is a terrain type 12:51 well, it didn't like my lizard corpse, jus twent peaceful :) 12:51 oh 12:51 thanks much! 12:52 pets in slex don't eat lizard corpses, that is intentional so they don't rob you of those important corpses 12:52 oh! 12:53 also, the "resistances aren't immunities" was my own idea, not inspired by any other variant or game 12:53 ok, it just sounded familiar. :) 12:53 sporkhack has percentage-based resistances but those are different 12:54 NCommander: ugh the priest quest. carving a path through those giant graveyards is an unholy pain in the butt 12:55 LarienTelrunya, yeah, I'm trying to go around it. 12:55 and I even tried specifically to tone it down some, not sure if I was successful 12:55 back when I did the priest quest last time, there were way too many fast undead and I constantly got cornered 12:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:58 when a monster description says can be eaten by vegans, does that mean it may still stone or slime or do other nasty stuff? 12:58 I don't see such effects mentioned... 12:59 uhh the one doesn't have anything to do with the other 12:59 that's what I thought :) 12:59 so, there's no warning in the description about 'don't eat this'? :) 12:59 but things that stone you when eaten should say "It can turn you to stone when you touch it." 12:59 oh! 12:59 thanks, that's useful 13:01 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Pri Ang Fem Law) killed the master backup, on T:45513 13:01 grats NCommander :) 13:01 LarienTelrunya, yeah but I didn't clear any of the above levels 13:01 shot gun or hand blaster any good for me? maybe I should read description :) 13:01 so finding that portal is going to be annoying 13:01 Mickmane: if you have ammo, they might be useful 13:02 guns generally do a lot of damage, but the ammo can't be re-used when fired 13:02 ahhh frig 13:02 that said, transvestites do get the firearms skill 13:02 My helment became heavily cursed 13:02 That being said, I have destroy armor 13:02 NCommander: going to use the mitre I guess? 13:04 what does a ! potion of confusion mean, the other potions don't say ! 13:04 also I'll probably have to leave soon 13:04 Mickmane: ! means the item is made of ether; it slowly contaminates you while in inventory, or faster if equipped (although normally you wouldn't equip potions anyway) 13:04 that's ok, I'll make notes with further questions :) 13:04 Mickmane: can also write them in the chat, I'll see it in the log later :D 13:04 oh, so this has confusing effect on me? 13:04 ok! 13:05 nah, contamination isn't confusion 13:05 I thought it would contaminate me with the content 13:05 what does contamination mean? 13:05 think of contaimations (spelling, in a hurry, have to leave soon) as radioactivity, it accumulates in your body, and if high enough starts sapping your wisdom, if it reduces wisdom below 3 you die 13:05 alright see you! 13:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:06 see you :) 13:06 cya 13:10 wth, my dragon can put on a helmet!? 13:11 guess I'll have to find a different pet for buc testing those 13:16 !tell LarienTelrunya It is hit. rn2(0) attempted - returning zero 13:16 I'm on it, NCommander. 13:16 Program in disorder. Please inform Amy (Bluescreenofdeath at nethackwiki) about 13:16 this bug. 13:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:22 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Pri Ang Fem Law), 1443428 points, T:46060, killed by a monster (priest of Moloch), while paralyzed by a monster attack 13:22 Damn 13:23 aw man 13:24 * NCommander is OK with this 13:24 I don't think I'll do another SLEX game for awhile 13:25 you got far, though! that's good :) 13:25 your character had a long and exciting life! 13:26 True that 13:26 Priest quest is just murder 13:26 Even in vanilla it's one of my least favorite 13:26 I don't remember details. 13:26 Massive amounts of undead 13:27 hm, don't remember them as scary 13:28 of course I have a terrible memory, as you see by all my basic questions ehre :) 13:29 They aren't in vanilla, just annoying 13:29 But SLEX can pull from any of the undead 13:29 So it gets drastically harder 13:29 oh 13:29 how do I turn off autopendoors again? 13:30 ah, found it 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:29316 13:48 what are mattresses and beds for? I even have a scroll named mattress sleeping 13:52 I have the feeling that normal whistle has better effect than in vanilla. (in slex) 13:53 "The mesgrue's sinister gaze fills your mind with dreadful, evil thoughts!" Um, I don't even see where it is. 13:54 I even apparently displaced it, but nothing visible. 13:55 ""Domuz cocuk bahcesinde servis edilirse yanlistir! Buetuen bu kafir egitmenler 13:55 yakinda Allah'a iman eden insanlarla degistirilecek."--More-- 13:55 " 13:55 Is that cthulhu language? 13:56 though sounds more like Turkish, come to think of it. 13:56 cocuk means child, no? 13:58 "Somehow, a strip of paper appeared in your food! Read it? [yes/no] y 13:58 " 13:58 but I got no text! 13:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:01 dipping 2 scrolls of light into a fountain didn't blank them. doesn't say finalized 14:04 "o an orc (alien egg)" !? 14:07 !who 14:07 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] DishOfTheDay [nh362] every [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] hothraxxa [evil] yann [nh4] MaxLunar [slex] bouquet [un] nutterbutter [un] sflicht [fh] | [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:14 !rng OoWeight Eye 14:14 eraserhead97: Eye 14:18 wtf - no nurses in one room - I'll take it ^^ 14:18 two 14:18 hehe 14:18 I wonder if a scroll of flood is good on a level with lava (gnomish mines). 14:19 I think I need a nap, see you later. :) 14:19 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 14:19 cya 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12053 14:25 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Ran Elf Mal Cha) received Stormbringer from Mars, on T:12978 14:27 *uck - Sting in shop 8^P 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Delraven (Kni Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:6550 14:30 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Ran Elf Mal Cha) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:13657 14:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had a slippery cloak entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:28852 14:34 he's laughing at me 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf king, on T:16811 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32787 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3896 points, T:4315, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 8 points, T:22, shot herself with a death ray 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5205 points, T:3162, killed by a dwarf lord 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 311 points, T:575, killed by a small mimic 14:42 !tell LarienTelrunya dipping 2 scrolls of light into a fountain didn't blank them. doesn't say finalized 14:42 I'm on it, bug_sniper. 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 258432 points, T:32926, killed by brainlessness 14:42 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 336 points, T:740, killed by an arrow 14:53 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:33393 14:54 someone here is a nethackwiki admin, amirite? 14:54 <{Demo}2> aos but hes in wilderness 14:55 ok. i'll try #nethack 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5152 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 32542 points, T:13627, killed by petrification 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Delraven (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 13014 points, T:7007, killed by a bolt of cold 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3977 14:57 try #nethackwiki? 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 5834 points, T:6823, quit 15:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3699 points, T:4869, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 278 points, T:752, killed by a coyote 15:07 !tell Mickmane mattresses are a hazard that can make you fall asleep; beds can be interacted with #sit. You got no text from the cookie because you need to type a full "yes" (I should probably change that). If you try to manipulate a stack of items (e.g. 2 scrolls of light), it might not always work depending on stack size. 15:07 LarienTelrunya: Message from NCommander at 2019-05-12 13:16 EDT: It is hit. rn2(0) attempted - returning zero 15:07 LarienTelrunya: Message from bug_sniper at 2019-05-12 14:42 EDT: dipping 2 scrolls of light into a fountain didn't blank them. doesn't say finalized 15:07 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 15:08 * NCommander died o/ 15:08 !tell Mickmane for scrolls and potions, the chance that any manipulation attempt (good or bad, e.g. rusting, it being stolen my a nymph, enchant weapon, blanking and so on) succeeds is 1 in stack size. 15:08 I'm on it, LarienTelrunya. 15:08 NCommander: yeah I saw that... rip :( 15:09 LarienTelrunya, I didn't quite take into account how $!@# brutal the priest quest would be 15:09 but considering that it was your third(?) real slex game, you did really well! 15:09 there's players who played far more slex chars without ever getting to quest depth ;) 15:10 LarienTelrunya, I'm probably not going to run another SLEX run for a bit. Honestly, it's draining for how long it is, my longest ascension was just north of 40k turns 15:10 yeah slex is a rather long game; Tariru's fastest ascension was just short of 100k turns IIRC 15:11 <{Demo}2> slex is long and lethal 15:11 I'll probably roll up a Valk next 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Mercury, on T:5773 15:13 NCommander: of course you could also goof off with one of the special challenge characters I invented for slex, such as the CamAmnMalCha+XJ :D 15:14 I'll get just far enough to be hopeful at winning and die wondering if there was perhaps a better way :P 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Mercury, on T:8142 15:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:20 * NCommander returns from the shower, feeling purified 15:21 NCommander: did you eat a sprig of wolfsbane? ;) 15:21 quaffed holy water ;) 15:21 !role 15:21 NCommander: splicehack rogue 15:21 * NCommander isn't playing splicehack until some of the bugs get squished 15:21 !role 15:21 NCommander: nh343 priest 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 11755 points, T:10521, killed by a gray unicorn 15:22 haha another priest :D 15:22 ... 15:22 Funny Beholder, real funny 15:23 NCommander 15:23 "Cast in the name of god, ye not guilty" 15:23 if you have a second, you mind taking a look at another coredump? 15:23 K2, for evilhack? 15:23 yes 15:24 Sure, although I may not be able to load it without the exact server binary 15:24 Was/Is there a stack dump? 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3105 15:24 one sec 15:24 https://termbin.com/prea 15:25 ^ happens when you and your steed step on a poly trap and your steed poly's into something else 15:25 i can reproduce this 100% of the time in evilhack 15:25 tested also in vanilla, not a vanilla issue 15:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:26 <{Demo}2> oh haha 15:26 <{Demo}2> i see what it is i think 15:26 <{Demo}2> i assume you made pets hitting traps destroy them? 15:26 <{Demo}2> (poly traps) 15:26 <{Demo}2> much like how the player does 15:26 yes 15:26 <{Demo}2> a funny hack would be to check it against u.usteed 15:26 <{Demo}2> and make u.usteed immune 15:26 there's a piece in src/muse.c 15:27 case poly_trap 15:27 <{Demo}2> cause right now it removes the trap twice but it cant do that cause yeah 15:27 deltrap() 15:27 newsym(steed->mx, steed->my) 15:27 ah 15:27 * NCommander raises his staff of GDB 15:27 <{Demo}2> once for you, once for your steed 15:27 * NCommander needs to reboot under Linux 15:27 be right back 15:27 <{Demo}2> and then it gets really sad and dies 15:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 2939 points, T:2061, killed by a fire ant 15:28 <{Demo}2> my advanced ghetto fix would just be to make steeds hitting polytraps never call the new code that removes them when a monster hits them 15:28 NCommander: i updated evilhack so it has the 3.6.2 official release code in case you want to refresh your local repo 15:29 ^ not live yet 15:29 but bug exists either way 15:29 {Demo}2 yeah i should test and see what happens if i comment out those 2 lines in muse.c 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Eng Hum Mal Law), 1337101 points, T:5152019, rebooted under Linux 15:31 K2, ok, just rebooted, how do I reproduce in wizard mode? 15:31 * NCommander is recompiling evilhack now 15:31 roll a knight 15:31 mount your horse 15:31 wish for a poly trap 15:31 fall off, die 15:31 step over it while riding steed 15:31 raisse heh 15:32 that's what baby knights do 15:32 i'm just a squire! 15:33 isn't a squire a baby knight? 15:33 right 15:34 K2, right, reproduced 15:34 stand by 15:34 k 15:35 hmm not muse.c, but trap.c 15:35 -!- machinespray has joined #hardfought 15:35 blah 15:35 * NCommander thinks he sees the problem 15:36 i see you looking at me... 15:36 omfg I'm the problem! 15:36 nooooooooooo 15:36 :P 15:37 NCommander in src/trap.c at line 1754 a couple new lines were added so if your steed stepped on a poly trap it'd go away 15:37 K2, https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.2/src/trap.c#L1628 15:37 detrap() and newsym() 15:37 Yeah, that's not the problem 15:38 Steeds into trap aren't suppose to delete the trap 15:38 right 15:38 thats what i was saying 15:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Ana Inc Mal Cha), 25 points, T:73, killed by a goblin 15:38 look at evilhack's src/trap.c at line 1754 15:38 K2, oh, I see 15:39 hold on 15:39 I can fix this easily then 15:39 K2, so you only want the steed polymorphed and then the trap removed 15:40 or both the player and the steed 15:40 hmm 15:40 current behavior is just the steed right? 15:40 No, current behavior in evilhack (as coded) is both 15:40 Not entirely sure what happens in vanilla 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 36405 points, T:8516, killed by a winged gargoyle 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3302 15:41 then it'd be vanilla also 15:41 both 15:41 And that's what you want to happen, but have the trap used up, right? 15:41 yes 15:41 Cause that's exactly what happens in vanilla 15:41 yes 15:41 So ... delete the deltrap lines from the steed check? 15:41 * NCommander is not sure he's following 15:41 lemme test vanilla behavior real quick to be sure 15:42 K2, right now, the trap always gets used up if you're on a steed in evilhack even if you're MR 15:42 NCommander: the end state should be regradless of what uses a polytrap - it goes away after one use 15:43 k 15:43 if you're MR, trap shouldnt go away since it didnt work 15:43 *regardless 15:43 K2, fixing 15:43 K2, there's an edge case if the steed is MR but you aren't 15:44 * NCommander coded a quick fix, testing it 15:44 yeah in vanilla both you and your steed are affected 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4998 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh4] ZD3 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 40388 points, T:7458, killed by a dwarf 15:44 so evilhack should be same in that regard 15:47 K2, fixed 15:47 woot 15:47 * NCommander tests it to make sure he got all the edge cases 15:48 -!- bobbyd has joined #hardfought 15:49 K2, not quite, got used up by the pet by accident 15:49 * NCommander tries to fix this edge case properly 15:50 -!- bobbyd has quit [Client Quit] 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Delraven (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 143 points, T:874, zombified by a kobold zombie 15:52 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 65452 points, T:28127, killed by a carnivorous ape 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6281 15:53 K2, https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/5 15:54 awesome thank you 15:54 K2, the behavior now is the trap isn't used up by monsters, both steed and player get polymorphed (and trap is used up), if MR, trap isn't used. 15:56 ok 15:56 if a monster steps on a ploy trap, it still gets used up yes? 15:56 poly 15:56 in vanilla not 15:56 right but in evilhack it was deliberately set so monsters used them up 15:56 ah right 15:57 hmm 15:57 K2, oh I removed that 15:57 Let me unfix 15:57 so you don't get the thing n the mines that you know there's a poly trap near because the level is full of peaceful random non-mines monsters 15:57 NCommander wait 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4350 15:57 now that I think about it 15:58 K2, already pushed ... do I need to revert that? 15:58 lets think 15:58 what is more evil - poly traps going away when a monster uses it or not going away 15:58 <{Demo}2> going away 15:58 <{Demo}2> cause then i cant spam my pet until its good 15:59 true 15:59 Yeah, but some monsters know to jump into poly traps until they become MR 15:59 NCommander do not revert 15:59 or was that a variant 15:59 * NCommander reverts the revert 15:59 i knew there was a reason i added that 15:59 demo reminded me 15:59 K2, pushed it again 15:59 no dont revert lol 15:59 We're back to monsters using up the trap 16:00 ok 16:00 heh 16:00 so no more pull requests 16:01 balancing pros/cons heheh 16:02 K2, it's all the same PR, it just has three commits on it 16:03 maybe i am missing something 16:03 i had already merged the initial pull request 16:03 only see 2 commits 16:04 K2, right because you merged the first one 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:2299 16:04 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master 16:04 K2, if you got only the first commit that's fine 16:04 ok 16:05 got confused there for A SEC 16:05 hi capslock 16:05 K2, no wait, you pulled two commits 16:05 Traps don't get used up 16:05 ok so i'm not confused 16:05 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/cfb84e242a8d72ba595d3f69ea7281e677162c83#diff-4f85dd2cb8a596193bb7d885254fc54dL2805 16:05 :P 16:06 so i need to add that back 16:06 that one line 16:08 K2, or just pick up the last commit from that branch 16:08 WHere I fixed it 16:10 oh i see 16:10 i can just revert that one commit 16:11 or 16:11 huh 16:11 so what is more evil - player can only poly their pet once, or monsters can reuse poly traps as much as they want until thy turn into something really nasty 16:11 * NCommander sees K2 fiddling with git. The git weilds itself to K2's command. 16:11 ^line 16:12 heh 16:12 K2, skew the roll so non-tame creatures always become something nasty 16:12 because there's already added logic for monsters using poly traps 16:12 hmm 16:12 i think for now... will leave your fixes as is 16:12 "Black dragon, mind flayer, master mind flayer, demilich, archlich, shambling horror, AmyBSOD" 16:12 hahahah 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh4] zd6 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 27212 points, T:2793, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 16:13 'The AmyBSOD hits you with her shoes! You feel fleecy!' 16:13 "You suddenly find yourself playing SLEX" 16:13 rofl 16:13 * NCommander would then have the char start Dl:1 with current inventory in SLEX 16:14 hrm 16:14 a - an evil patch idea (being considered) 16:15 K2, thriller trap. Zombies get summoned around you. 16:15 omg 16:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:16 people would stop playing at that point hah 16:16 K2, make it only generate on Friday the 13th 16:18 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 16:18 With current inventory> contained in an uncursed +0 bundle, obviously 16:19 * Mickmane waves. 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 29259 points, T:9375, petrified by a cockatrice 16:21 heya 16:21 * K2 bundles Pinkbeast with an uncursed +0 bundle 16:21 whatever that is 16:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Ana Hlf Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:4192 16:27 K2, I *think* a bundle is her way of referring to a pony tail 16:28 oh right 16:28 or a boob. I couldn't figure out what she meant when she showed me a picture of a girl with two bundles. 16:28 she mentioned hair earlier when I asked. 16:28 Mickmane: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-12 15:07 EDT: mattresses are a hazard that can make you fall asleep; beds can be interacted with #sit. You got no text from the cookie because you need to type a full "yes" (I should probably change that). If you try to manipulate a stack of items (e.g. 2 scrolls of light), it might not always work depending on stack size. 16:28 Mickmane: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-12 15:08 EDT: for scrolls and potions, the chance that any manipulation attempt (good or bad, e.g. rusting, it being stolen my a nymph, enchant weapon, blanking and so on) succeeds is 1 in stack size. 16:28 * NCommander saw stack size, and wondered what Amy was doing to exceed it 16:29 Then again, SLEX randomly reads from uninitalized memory to generate some monsters so who knows. 16:29 there's a kung fu movie or show i saw once, takes place in the 19th century, chinese kung fu guy was using his long braid as a weapon 16:29 NCommander: Is _that_ why green demons keep flying out my nose? 16:29 K2: Shanghai Knights 16:29 yeah 16:29 Pinkbeast, no, you're suffering from sliming. Point a wand of fire up your nose and fire. 16:30 Oh, thanks, that's a great OH SWEET JESUS AAARGH 16:30 * NCommander looks at Pinkbeast's inventory 16:30 k - a horrible truth (being revealed) 16:31 I wonder whether bundlebundle then means waving around the bushel of hair, or spinning the head to spin the tail? 16:33 * NCommander applies k - two uncursed bungles 16:33 * NCommander creates an AmyBSOD 16:34 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 16:34 what do we do with 2 of them? 16:35 Like SLEX, but twice as much 16:35 anything we want 16:35 Possibly disappearing through a feature creep event horizon to produce Rogue 16:35 bhaak, create SLEX^2 16:36 one is not enough? 16:36 also, who read a scroll of summon bhaak 16:36 bhaak, I'm hoping the second one would be made of antimatter and they'd cancel out. 16:36 but how would you hold the one made of anitmatter 16:36 NCommander: lol 16:37 hm, hm, I realize bushel doesn't mean German Bueschel. 16:37 K2, it's SLEX, it doesn't have to make sense. 16:37 hah 16:37 aw, but why have them cancel each other? 16:37 Mickmane, it's the same effect if you put a bag of holding in another BoH 16:37 They collapse in upon each other 16:37 but why hope for it? 16:38 Mickmane, because the world would be a saner place. 16:38 optimist 16:38 saner doesn't mean nicer either. 16:39 True, but at least when the universe fucks you over, you'd understand how it fucked you over 16:39 are you sure? did you ever fall into a black hole and understand it? 16:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:40 bhaak, my mind is still processing it, relativity is a bitch. I'll let you know when a second has passed for the me in a black hole. 16:41 bhaak, I'm pretty sure I understood Maud for a moment. 16:41 gotta go, be back later 16:41 o/ 16:42 see you :) 16:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Ana Hlf Mal Cha), 15288 points, T:5889, killed by a mumak 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh4] wii2 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 29600 points, T:2162, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by writing a scroll, on T:4478 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6126 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:2936 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18943 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7406 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 12276 points, T:7576, killed by a bolt of lightning 17:14 that sucks 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] wzd2 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 23805 points, T:3594, killed by a giant mimic 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1221 points, T:3795, quit 17:35 eraserhead97, bolt of lightning? Pissed off the gods? 17:50 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:20112 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10318 18:14 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 1253 points, T:1820, struck down by a parrot 18:16 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:41890 18:29 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 pair of speed boots", on T:13421 18:39 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Mon Akt Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:61460 18:42 NCommander: nope, but it was a YASD - I picked up a loadstone in the 2x2 room in cellar 18:42 wands all over the place (didn't see the shooter) 18:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Vam Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4478 18:48 "So, Mr. eraserhead97 which one of these Gs did you in?" 18:52 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.4] 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 623 points, T:1448, killed by a dwarf 19:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Vam Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:7902 19:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Vam Mal Cha) was given Cleaver, on T:12114 19:22 !role 19:22 NCommander: nh343 archeologist 19:22 nah 19:22 !role 19:22 NCommander: xnethack rogue 19:22 Hrm 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 19:35 D:1 bag of holding 19:35 cool 19:35 !role 19:35 StinkyGreene: fiqhack tourist 19:38 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 343 points, T:982, killed by an elven dagger 19:44 figures. 19:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Vam Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15334 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3314 points, T:3088, killed by a bolt of cold 20:09 NCommander, do you know if a scroll of flood is good on a level with lava? 20:09 in slex 20:09 no idea 20:09 then I'll find out! :) 20:12 maybe I should have explored the level first, so far I just see water pools where rock has been, but I hadn't seen much last time I was there 20:19 in slex, does 'sticks to you' in the attacks mean it holds me? 20:19 -!- sodastab has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 20:20 -!- sodastab has joined #hardfought 20:20 -!- sodastab has quit [Excess Flood] 20:21 -!- sodastab has joined #hardfought 20:23 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 20:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Ana Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1987 20:41 my high pitched whistle seems less effective!? (slex) 20:43 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:51 descent orc sounds odd, is it from that game, Descent? 21:16 roast mate potion!? 21:23 "The dungeon acoustics noticeably change." Sounds familiar, but I forgot what it means. What does it mean? 21:24 oh, found it in wiki 21:24 digging ;) 21:24 shopkeeper fixing a hole in his shop, says wiki :) 21:25 wow, a (wite) gnome with an iron ball, haha, wonder if's chained to him 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:32458 21:33 byebye mr pink h 21:34 aww :) 21:35 i was lucky. in evilhack blessed genocide isn't guaranteed to take out mind flayers when i ask for h 21:35 oh, wow 21:35 are they meaner, too? 21:35 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 265804 points, T:34446, killed by an Elvenking 21:37 you get two h, odds favor master mind flayers and mindflayers but you could get dwarves and rogue dwarves 21:37 or master mind flayer and dwarves? 21:38 yeah. i don't think evilhack makes mind flayers any worse 21:38 I don't really mind them. :) 21:38 but i went downstairs and there was a pink h and i don't even have grease 21:38 oh, ouch :) 21:38 I'd send a pet in 21:39 my pet is too weak, only xl 4 21:39 oh 21:39 my pseudodragons got killed and 21:39 -and 21:39 so now i have a pony 21:40 I have 4 right now, young silver dragon, some electrified named sword wielding possible player role/race thing, some other @ thing, and a cat. :) 21:40 i'm not sure why 21:40 aw, not sure what pseudodragons are, but sounds sad. 21:40 also just hit minetown, I think. I also think I should save :) 21:40 they are a weaker form of dragon i guess 21:40 fairly strong, good attacks 21:41 my eyes are almost falling shut 21:41 eat more elves 21:41 that's cool 21:41 haha, they don't seem to come in tins around here. 21:41 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:41 i make my own 21:42 I meet so few elves, and wouldn't want to kill them if I did, unless they were really nasty. 21:42 let me introduce you to evilhack elf zombies 21:43 quite tasty when tinned 21:43 hehe, but any zombies are tasty tinned. 21:43 no? 21:43 do I remember wrong? 21:44 no that's correct 21:44 well sometimes they turn out rotten 21:44 like any tinned food 21:44 any tin can, yeah 21:46 I think I'm off to bed, see you later. :) 21:47 dream of slex 21:47 hm, would be less weird than my usual dreams. :) 21:48 though I think some annoying dude in some recent dream was beaten by 2 (dream) friends and I summoning 3 werebanes, which were lilke people sized 2-legged werewolves, that must have been Nethack caused. :) 21:48 or we tried to beat him that way. If I remember right, I stabbed him with 3 coloured pencils. 21:48 (and he turned out to be a robot inside) 21:48 blessed? 21:49 my whacko dream brain didn't bother with such details. :) 21:49 anyway, good night. :) 21:49 nite 21:49 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 21:54 !who 21:54 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 159 points, T:437, killed by a crossbow bolt 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 107 points, T:1063, killed by a dart 22:12 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed Yildizeli on T:14169 22:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Ana Dro Mal Neu), 9699 points, T:3486, killed by a droven bolt 22:24 Whoops 22:25 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:27 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 22:27 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:27 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 22:32 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed Alingsas on T:14909 22:33 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Ana Dwa Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1252 22:46 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:23770 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:33739 22:59 oh6 you already have the quest staff? 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33908 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4882 23:10 gnite all 23:10 nite 23:11 Rest well. 23:13 someone appears to be stockpiling Aja's 23:17 Andrio: doh! I #tip'ed your bag of tricks - must've been cursed 23:18 Whoops 23:18 the entire room filled up - about 20 mobs 23:18 Vorpal Blade is supposed to decapitate things other than lichens, right? 23:19 aye - to decapitate the mob must have a head 23:19 mm 23:19 If you can lift the bag easily, there's probably no need to tip it 23:20 this was a nasty room - also had a magic trap that summoned monsters 23:20 hehe - thx for tip 23:20 and if you can lift it at all you can cast remove curse. 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:35095 23:21 except I'm a stupid Barbarian - luckily buff enuf to tank that out-of-control horde 8^P 23:21 Nice 23:23 so the final count on loot in that room was 67 items - out-of-control 23:23 I need to find an altar 23:24 They were both your Tourists - one killed by a homunculus, while sleeping - other by a hobgoblin 23:24 so I got T-shirts and cameras now 23:26 damn - lucked out - the > in the middle of that room led straight to an altar 23:27 Objects spill out... You owe Upernavik 248 zorkmids. 248 gold pieces drop to the floor. Your debt is paid off. 23:27 ok then 23:32 hmm... ...I might as well use this cursed bag-of-tricks to sac-fest 23:35 doh - just read the wiki - "Using #tip with a bag of tricks will expend all the charges at once, beware!" - guess that plan is out the window 23:40 Whoops. 23:41 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 58224 points, T:18631, killed by the wrath of Grumbar 23:56 !who 23:56 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh362] 23:57 Hm, maybe wielding the cursed long sword I found in a trap pile wasn't a great idea 23:57 maybe 23:59 Andrio: you are dying so quickly that you should be coming across some of your own bonez files by now...