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Level 2 with 15 HP 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:63916 00:46 How come the tourist's starting credit card always has the same text on it? 00:48 <@shadowsapex> O.o I never knew credit cards had text 00:49 (o_o) 00:49 So do coins. 01:00 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04 <@shadowsapex> apparently ransmannsby is the rogue quest home level 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64246 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64248 01:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:13 -!- rld1 has joined #hardfought 01:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld1] by ChanServ 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:64407 01:17 -!- j has joined #hardfought 01:17 -!- j is now known as Guest2571 01:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:17 -!- rld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:18 -!- rld1 is now known as rld 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:64524 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:64533 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:65154 01:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:65999 01:40 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 01:46 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 01:50 8^( gremlins on water plane - is it nighttime in the game? 01:53 shouldn't it be your time? 01:53 it's localtime, not servertime? 01:53 Oh, um, sorry, no idea. 01:54 I should have remembered that it's not like playing alone at home. :) 02:02 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11763 02:26 -!- Guest2571 is now known as rebatela 02:42 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 03:02 [hdf-us] [nh4] WD4 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 43092 points, T:7295, killed by a bone devil 03:05 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] koumakan (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 243 points, T:1483, poisoned by a rotted human corpse, while helpless 03:18 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12957 03:26 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:30 Why is there a watch captain two floors above Minetown? 03:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:66284 03:35 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:66358 03:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> Is it a bones file? 03:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> Also it may happen that he accidentally followed you through the stairs, I tend to "displace" watchmen on other floors that way. 03:54 anyone know what would happen if I rubber-chicken a high priestess on astral? 03:55 <@Shin Umbygashima> One would presume Bad Things™ 03:56 I'm going to try for fun ^^ 03:56 whew - nothing special happened ^^ 03:57 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:66583 03:59 Your wielded cockatrice corpse rots away! 8^P 04:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine (5 times), on T:66724 04:06 Stormbringer turns out to be really nice for clearing astral 04:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Death (5 times), on T:66753 04:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:11 Any bets on how many times I'll have to retame my horse before I reach basic skill in riding? 04:12 <@Shin Umbygashima> How is your horse becoming untame in the first place, assuming you started with them. 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 2029720 points, T:66827, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nh361/dumplog/1557373160.nh361.txt 04:13 I'm a tourist. I didn't start with it. 04:13 That took too long - no levitation and no speed boots and no BoH drags the game 8^P 04:13 Congrats, eraserhead97! 04:13 thx ^^ 04:14 <@Shin Umbygashima> GG Eraser 04:14 Couldn't wish for them? 04:14 ty 04:14 !asc 04:14 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 has ascended 14 times in 265 games (5.28%): nh362:14 (5.49%) 04:14 <@Shin Umbygashima> Andy, if you have veggie items you can probably just hold on to them and ration them out as needed. 04:14 <@Shin Umbygashima> Horses make those last as long as normal food does for you 04:14 mm 04:15 <@Shin Umbygashima> As to finding more, you can use him to dispose of the mold corpses you weren't gonna do anything with anyway 04:15 Andrio: not until castle - I burned one early magic lamp wish on GDSM 04:15 I ended up using castle wish on BoH and speed boots 04:15 poly'ed for levitation ring 04:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:22 !who 04:22 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh362] 04:25 \o/ 04:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> Congrats. 04:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> Now don't fuck it up. 04:27 <@Shin Umbygashima> Too hard. 04:28 Magicbane on Tourist should be fun. ^^ 04:28 #l 04:28 yes, it is 04:28 <@Shin Umbygashima> Assuming you have a stack of dags at this point. 04:28 <@Shin Umbygashima> If not, the fuck are you doing, get on that shit like now. 04:29 You are now most skilled in riding. 04:29 <@Shin Umbygashima> Multishotting enchanted dags is fun. 04:29 Mm 04:29 <@Shin Umbygashima> Preparing for a dragon/kirin steed ahead of time, huh? 04:29 Yep. 04:29 That and horses are fast. 04:29 And good pets anyway. 04:30 <@Shin Umbygashima> Not wrong. 04:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:36 whee I'm AC -40 in speed boots and -37 in water walking boots 04:36 intrinsic 0 04:37 -41 in WW boots :-) 04:41 trying healer - never ascended one of these 04:43 <@Shin Umbygashima> 👏 04:43 <@Shin Umbygashima> You're on your way. 04:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:55 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:56 <@Shin Umbygashima> ...that's disappointing. 04:58 mm 04:58 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:58 It got in the way of a dagger. 05:05 * Andrio puts an uncursed land mine into the chest. What could possibly go wrong? 05:09 Fountain quaffing time. 05:11 wow - I'm trapped in a corner of GM - stepped on a magic trap which brought out 4 mobs - E's not working well because mobs are trapped behind the trap 8^P 05:11 That would be the first time I got the gain ability effect from a magic fountain 05:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 630 points, T:2090, killed by a dwarf 05:15 <@Shin Umbygashima> Minute after I commented too. 05:15 <@Shin Umbygashima> Why do I say things sometimes. 05:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:33 YANI: how come iron things engulfed by gelatinous cubes don't get corroded? 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 551 points, T:1444, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 05:36 healer feels harder than tourist - I'll have to figure it out tomorrow - gn 05:37 <@Shin Umbygashima> @Andrio, cubes prefer to digest leather/cloth stuff, anything else they just "hold" 05:38 <@Shin Umbygashima> Actually I think it's just organics in general 05:38 <@Shin Umbygashima> Think of it as a sentient vat of stomach acid 05:39 <@Shin Umbygashima> Enough to yeet corpses and such but not strong enough to really corrode metals 05:39 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 05:41 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:59 jonadab: Beholder forwards @ queries to pinobot, which is not on this channel. 05:59 Tangles: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-10 16:24 EDT: can you check whether there's a core dump on hdf-us for slex? Demo's game apparently segfaulted and I'd be interested in the backtrace ;) 05:59 Tangles: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-10 17:24 EDT: damn... maxlunar also got a crash on hdf-us slex, so the previous core dump is gone... can you check whether you can get a backtrace of whatever core dump is there, please? ;) also is it possible to make it save core dumps to distinct files so they don't overwrite each other? 06:00 I'm reading a lot about hardfought.org being unavailable or returning 500 errors. I'm unable to reproduce this. 06:01 I got in earlier today, or was it last night? I'm in Hannover, Germany. 06:01 Tangles: It's just done it to me now. A dozen cookies, nothing else 06:01 currently, I checked and got in, too. 06:01 I have cookies in general disabled, and an exception for hardfought. 06:02 hi Tangles! sorry to be a burden, but I'd really need the backtrace of that latest slex crash because otherwise I have no idea what could have caused it :( 06:02 it happened on hdf-us last night 06:02 LarienTelrunya: I'm getting to that :) 06:02 * LarienTelrunya has a strong aversion to the stupid SIGSEGV 06:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> So, just missed several mattock swings and died to a fucking wraith touching away the remaining 20 HP I had. 06:03 You hit the crocodile. You kill the crocodile! It explodes! You seem unaffected with it. 06:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> More even. 06:03 by it, even. 06:03 lol raisse :) 06:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> So many ways to escape that but I reFUSE to believe I missed that many fucking swings at it. 06:03 <@Shin Umbygashima> Whatever. 06:04 the hardought servers use ubuntu which uses 'apport' to handle application crashes. It's not my favourite, but K2 likes it and it does have some nice features. I haven't looked into configuring it for multiple dumps from the same program. 06:04 Wraiths are speed 12 so it seems rather than you died to not just walking away from it. 06:04 *that, curses fingers 06:05 <@Shin Umbygashima> In which I repeat that I'm aware I could have survived but how do you miss that often with a yeah you're at least basic in. 06:05 <@Shin Umbygashima> The "damage" is already done, just a tilt-induced death 06:06 Often it's because you stoated your Luck earlier 06:07 <@Shin Umbygashima> Nothing happened that would've caused a spiral in luck, if anything I should've had a bit more from tossed white unicorn an ID'd gem 06:07 ... conversely, max Luck ASAP and you can approach the happy land of "never miss" 06:09 LarienTelrunya: https://0x0.st/zThj.txt 06:09 <@Shin Umbygashima> Last time I trust a decently skilled weapon to hit consistently ig 06:09 just the maxlunar one I'm afraid. 06:10 Tangles: arrrrrgh it's that dreaded curses UI bug, I thought we had fixed that??? 06:10 no it is not 06:10 it is tty 06:10 <@Shin Umbygashima> Almost want to beeline to the mines even though I'm pretty fucking sure Luck wasn't even the issue 06:10 Tangles: oh sorry, didn't look closely enough 06:10 man... so it was the annoying punishment bug again 06:11 why does that keep happening :/ 06:11 yeah definitely something to do with the punishment ball. 06:13 it looks like it panics because of 'remove object: not on floor', then it tries to generate a dumplog, and somehow the botl window has gone away so it panics again. 06:14 yeah... weird... 06:17 at least I still remember what happened last: he had been pushed back by some monster, maybe that confused the punishment ball because his location changed but the ball didn't get dragged with him correctly when that happened 06:17 will have to try to reproduce it in wizmode, hopefully I'll manage to do that 06:17 <@Shin Umbygashima> Discord, please, I was just in this channel on my phone, showing recent history on my Chromebook should not be giving you fits. 06:18 When you are done with that (don't want to interrupt, but might forget), what prompts a level being flooded? 06:18 in slex I mean 06:19 <@Shin Umbygashima> There. 06:19 Mickmane: well I'm actually eating IRL right now, will try to reproduce the crash either ;) being flooded as in a message "The dungeon is flooded"? could have been a trap, or someone reading a scroll 06:19 s/either/later 06:20 it said something about I should have been more careful, or watch where I stepped, and then there was water and no way to leave the room without stepping on it 06:20 LarienTelrunya: I'm a little time-poor at the moment, but I can try to poke through the coredump a bit more tomorrow to see if that sheds some light. 06:20 I narrowly escaped yasd by emergency dig paralysis, phew 06:21 also, some message, damn, forgot the exact words. Something dark or something anyway, hm. 06:23 I'm not awake, what I mean is that I occasionally got some message and no idea what promted it, unrelated to the water incident 06:23 Tangles: thanks :) no need to hurry though, I have a theory about the cause of that crash and might be able to reproduce and fix it, maybe I just need to place ball and chain at the hero's location after being pushed back 06:24 Mickmane: ah, then it was probably the flooding trap; panic digging is not a good escape technique, phase door is :D 06:25 I had used phase door earlier to escape an owlbear I think it was, crushing me 06:25 ah I see 06:25 when I first saw panic dig, I thought it would be dig hole in the ground, but then read description. 06:25 if you do use panic digging, it can be helpful to first engrave a couple Elbereths that should keep you relatively safe during paralysis 06:26 I have the directive ability (which is how I got to look at them), and wonder, it says my pet can pick up things, change that? I can disable that for any or all pets? 06:26 LarienTelrunya, I didn't think of that, but you're right :) 06:26 Mickmane: it's global; if you disable it, no pet can pick up items anymore until you use directive again and change it back 06:26 as your petkeeping skill increases, directive will add more and more things you can change about your pets' behavior :) 06:26 ah, useful later on when they rearrange gehennom 06:26 yeah, I expect it will! :) 06:27 you know I like pets when that's the first skill I could #enhance :)) 06:27 :D 06:27 if you additionally reach skilled riding, directive also lets you change how often your steed gets targetted by enemies 06:27 is there some limit about the max enhances I can do, like I vaguely remember from vanilla? 06:28 oh, cool! now I need a silver dragon, or some other mount with reflection 06:28 if you use #enhance, the screen will show you how many skill slots you have left; every increase costs one slot and every level up gives two slots, so at XL30 you can do a total of 58 enhancements 06:28 thanks 06:28 can you make xl30 not max? :) 06:28 getting crowned gives 5 extra skill slots and killing a certain boss gives another 5 slots 06:29 oh, that's nice. 06:29 XL30 isn't technically the max; you can keep leveling up from experience in slex, although you'll still technically be XL30, and don't get more skill slots; you do get extra max HP and Pw though. 06:29 I noticed it only shows me skills I can reach good levels in, probably not all possible skills in the game 06:29 oh, but the thought was to get more slots 06:29 yeah not every role has every skill (obviously) 06:30 for the people who play 150k turns or more. 300k turns? :) 06:30 what, are you saying 58 slots aren't good enough? in vanilla you only get 29 and going from skilled to expert in something eats up 3 of them :P 06:30 would be a bit much to list them all, I jus tthink Vanilla does? 06:30 hehe, ok, I'll see first then. :) 06:30 that said, if you pick the magyar race, you start with 1000 extra skill slots and can therefore enhance everything to the max :D 06:30 oh, will make a note on that race 06:30 also, certain roles (e.g. mystic or demagogue) get all the skills 06:31 cool 06:32 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:32 when I am awake (had a 2h nap), I'll continue playing. 06:33 nice :) I'll have to leave for work in about 2 hours though. 06:34 when will you be back? 06:34 will make my way back around 18:30, so I hope I'll be back home around eight 06:35 honestly I'm not even sure why I accepted that shift, since it's only 2 hours and doesn't pay well at all 06:35 aw 06:35 wow, 1.5h drive? 06:36 work on saturday? 06:36 poor sod 06:36 yeah, since I need to go to a "cucumber train station", i.e. one that's not easily reachable for me 06:36 stenno: heh, I even had to work on the 1st of May ("Tag der Arbeit") 06:37 damn 06:37 unfair 06:37 will you tell us what you work as? 06:37 Mickmane: sure, I'm doing market research for the DB (Deutsche Bahn), i.e. interviewing passengers, or in this case counting how many there are in a given train 06:38 sounds unusual, and you get to meet many people. 06:38 I hope they'll be all nice! 06:38 heh, you meet all kinds of weird people on the train, from the "etepetete" business lady to the filthy bum in rags 06:40 and either one can be friendly, or a jerk. :) I hope they're all friendly. :) 06:41 yeah I always hope that too, but in the case of doubt I actually prefer an unfriendly passenger who lets me interview him over a friendly one who does not :P 06:41 oh, well, that makes sense, but is a weird combo 06:42 with me, you'd probably hope I'll shut up soon, I have the habit to chew off the ears of people :) 06:46 am back in the game 06:46 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 06:46 that's an interesting line of work, LarienTelrunya! 06:46 oh, I accidentally zapped my cat with invisible. does that wear off? 06:47 I bet you are good at it 06:47 also, any easy way to get see invisible? 06:47 raisse: i see the online voting for 2019 hugos is now open... but i haven't missed the voter packet, have it? 06:47 btw, the shopkeeper cheating me out of credit was not nice! 06:47 oh, gosh, I need to keep up. 06:47 LarienTelrunya? still here? 06:48 paxed: will you be attending in Dublin? 06:48 Mickmane: yeah of course, otherwise it would say "LarienTelrunya has quit" :P 06:48 elenmirie_: yes 06:48 yay! 06:48 me too 06:48 paxed: If it hasn't come out in the last day or two, it's still imminent 06:48 oh, well, could be afk :) 06:48 Pinkbeast: ah. and bah. 06:48 elenmirie_: heh, I guess I am, my employers were very happy with me so far ;) 06:48 My cat's invisbile, will that wear off? 06:48 :) 06:48 Oh, that's cool 06:48 LarienTelrunya: Huh, we've been interviewed by DB like that 06:49 Mickmane: no, but you can zap it with a wand of make visible, which is rare but will make it visible again 06:49 hm, I have a wand that didn't do anything so far, should I try that? 06:49 Pinkbeast: hahaha... who knows, maybe it was me who interviewed you? :D 06:49 ooh, ships in the night 06:49 Mickmane: make visible would say "The bugs on the floor are clearly visible!" when engraved 06:49 ah, ok 06:49 haha, great wand 06:50 I got some message of water on coins, but that came from the fountain I guess 06:50 I'm not sure my memory goes beyond "German woman, on a train somewhere between Leipzig and Brussels" 06:50 that would be very useful in evilhack, where you can randomly become invisible from a magic trap 06:50 Pinkbeast: Leipzig??? I've never been there, so that most probably wasn't me 06:50 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:51 wait, I had another wand, where did that go? 06:51 BURRRRRP! 06:51 eep, raisse! 06:51 hm, weird 06:51 Well, it might have been between, say, Frankfurt and Brussels 06:51 ouch 06:51 oh, how mean 06:52 Do magic fountains ever dry up before giving the gain ability effect? 06:52 Pinkbeast: it was probably an ICE though; we only do the interviews in regional trains, sadly 06:52 paxed: if you follow that link, there's how to get the voter packet at the end of that page 06:53 Sometimes we end up on the regional train because it's cheap. (Yes, I realise the odds are nevertheless heavily against it being you) 06:53 raisse: oh. duh 06:53 elenmirie_: that was stupidity, I'm so used to having an oilskin cloak that I didn't realise I didn't 06:54 and also I didn't realise Elbereth doesn't work in Gehennom so I wasted a turn with that 06:54 what I should have done, of course, was play my magic harp 06:54 Andrio: No. A magic fountain will always give that effect eventually and magic fountains never dry up. (They become non-magic fountains after giving it.) 06:54 Mm 06:55 ... if Luck is non-negative 06:55 raisse: my eyes just seem to skip those input boxes styled as just a line, and there was no link to click. so, obviously there was nothing there :) 06:56 Well, it 06:57 is high enough to get blessed gain ability. 06:57 how can I trip over my own claws? 06:57 Or at least, it was 06:57 Mickmane: fumbling 06:57 oh, intrinsic from what could it be, in slex? 06:57 so you are on ice, or you wear something that gives you fumbling 06:57 idk 07:00 in slex, can I put a bag on the floor with coins in for credit to have it stolen by my cat? 07:00 idk 07:01 Mickmane: no, pets don't pick up containers with contents in slex 07:01 if at all, they'll only pick up empty ones 07:01 ah! good 07:01 well, I had a cat drag around an empty ice box :) 07:02 now I know why it didn't pick it up with stuff in 07:02 what was I looking for in my inventory...? :) 07:03 oh, I was wondering, how can I find out what monster intrinsics a corpse might give when I can't look at the monster? 07:03 didn't find anythign where I could just put in the name, at least the prompt that I did find didn't have any info on what I asked about. 07:04 there was a shop with tons of ice boxes... 07:04 Mickmane: I'm planning to eventually add a pokedex for corpses 07:05 Just the monster name didn't give me any info either. Was golden mushroom 07:06 yeah right now you can access the pokedex only by farlooking a monster 07:06 but you can do this: 07:06 @le?golden mushroom 07:06 golden mushroom (F) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 0 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 9 | Attacks: 0d4 passive gold steal, 1d4 touch gold steal | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, poisonous, vegan 07:06 how do I find out how much I owe/have credit? 07:07 thanks 07:07 chatting to the shopkeeper should do that 07:07 makes sense 07:09 what's that stuff about sanity? what does it affect? 07:10 the higher your sanity is, the more likely you are to be subjected to random bad effects on a sanity increase 07:10 with 900 or more sanity, monsters start looking like other monsters sometimes (like hallucination, but only for monsters) 07:10 so sanity is bad? 07:10 with 9000 or more sanity, any sanity increase paralyzes you 07:10 yes, you start the game with a sanity of 0 :P 07:11 weird 07:12 what's with the # replacing inventory letters? how am I to designate an item when I can't type in a letter? 07:12 use a container :P you have too many items in your open inventory 07:13 I hoped it would just tell me it's full 07:13 alternately you can also turn on the "knapsacklimit" option, then you simply can't pick up items anymore if you already have 52 or more 07:13 will do! is it in-game? 07:13 yes, but I guess you want it permanently so you'll want to also put OPTIONS=knapsacklimit in your rcfile 07:13 oh thats an option? 07:13 of course it can still be turned off later 07:14 good to know 07:14 thanks :) 07:14 stenno: yeah, I've never seen anyone use it yet though 07:14 i would have used it if i knew it existed heh 07:14 stenno: maybe you played before it existed ;) it's a relatively recent addition 07:14 ah fair 07:14 though I should really make an options-and-commands spoiler eventually 07:16 Mickmane: there are a bunch of tricks to deal with # items, you can e.g. hit ! to select all potions, = to select all rings, , (comma) to select everything on the current page, or . (period) to select everything on all pages 07:16 I don't want to select all though :) 07:16 yeah you can still unselect ones after you do 07:16 true 07:18 what's that * bottle? 07:19 * indicates the item is made from glass, just to remind you not to throw it or it'll break 07:19 oh, cool 07:19 with my crystal plate mail, should I check the dwarvish mithril coat? 07:19 well the CPM is probably better, since it doesn't hinder spellcasting and also gives much more AC 07:20 cool 07:20 I consider myself lucky with all the nice stuff I found so far. :) 07:20 mithril coats give MC3, but if your cloak also gives MC3 you'll not need the mithril 07:20 I don't kow what elven cloak gives 07:20 elven cloak does indeed give MC3 (and should also say so in the description I think?) 07:21 TIL: warning of humans and elves includes zombies 07:21 will check 07:22 no wonder you fell asleep last night, the way I play must put anyone to sleep :) 07:24 Mickmane: nah, I was just generally tired, first we had a brunch at the office and then I was also invited to my roommate's regulars table and at both of those I ate a lot :D 07:24 hehe 07:24 still, I'd fall asleep watching me play :) 07:24 well I'm not staring at the terminal non-stop, I'm doing all kinds of other things while we speak 07:24 ah, good 07:24 right now I'm managing my train tours and stuff 07:25 did I pick up somethign that crumbled to dust? 07:26 can I name an object I've seen but don't have? 07:27 no, the item must be in your inventory 07:27 there's also a command that displays what's on your shopping bill, but I forgot what it was 07:27 it's just that dude wants money for a scroll I don't have, must have crumbled 07:27 Iu? 07:27 could have been scare monster 07:28 are there other options besides that one? 07:28 yeah, try I (shift-i) followed by u 07:28 I mean, for a scroll vanishing 07:28 yes: if you put an unpaid item on the square at the door, i.e. the square that the shopkeeper blocks, you can also screw yourself 07:28 oh, use the x option in that menu 07:28 I dn't think I put anything there 07:28 thanks! 07:29 too bad I can't call it scare monster 07:29 you could have called it that when it originally vanished, but you probably skipped past the prompt 07:29 I didn't even notice it :) else I wouldn't be wondering what happened to the scroll 07:30 let's hope one of those wands is make visible, and I get enough to buy everything from that crossbow 07:30 when did I forget the level layout anyway? 07:31 oh 07:31 then the scroll wasn't scare monster, but instant amnesia 07:31 oh, that happens upon pickup too? 07:31 that'w why I asked if there are any other options :) 07:32 it crumbles when picked up, gives you amnesia, and intentionally doesn't let you name it in the hopes of you not remembering what it was when you find another :P 07:32 ouch :) 07:32 what else may I have forgotten? 07:32 note that this is different from the regular scroll of amnesia, which also still exists 07:32 you could have forgotten spells, level maps of other levels, or object identities 07:32 the word instant kind of points at it being different :) 07:33 didn't notice you had forgotten the map, or I'd have immediately said it was instant amnesia 07:33 hehe 07:33 that's why I first thought "ah, must be scare mon" 07:33 any other scrolls that crumble 07:33 ? 07:34 was my thought too, but I don't know what else there may be in slex 07:34 no, but there is a nasty trap that gives a 50% chance for any scroll to crumble when you pick it up, with a different message 07:34 what on earth do I do with all that crap? 07:34 are those your items, or the shop's contents? 07:34 every scroll for a number of turns, or any scroll, maybe for the end of the game? 07:34 oh, that's mine in my bag 07:35 Mickmane: nasty traps generally last for a period of time when triggered 07:35 ok 07:35 there are however items that mimic their effects, which will give the effects until the item in question is removed 07:35 well, there went my plan, the dude wants 13k for the crossbow, but gives me only 500 07:35 and if you eat a gray stone that mimics a nastytrap effect, you get the trap effect permanently :P 07:36 so how do I speed up getting the stuff in the bag? 07:36 I didn#t know stones could mimic stuff. :) 07:36 uhh the fastest way would be to grab the bag and teleport out of the shop 07:36 noo, without angering mr shopkeeper 07:36 well then... you'd either need to find a way to get past my credit cloning nerf, or have your pet(s) steal them one by one 07:37 hah 07:37 Will you accept 315 zorkmids in credit for a finalized spellbook of geyser 07:37 named !c {0}? [ynaq] (y) 07:37 You traded a finalized spellbook of geyser named !c {0} for 315 zorkmids in 07:37 additional credit. 07:37 "What? You want credit? Well, sucks to be you, but I ain't giving you any!" 07:37 yeah you only get credit 50% of the time 07:37 well, I thought he had given up for good, so that's something at least. 07:40 what does devices skill do? 07:42 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Skills - it makes it so that wands and chargeable tools have a chance of not losing a charge when you use them 07:43 oh, cool! 07:49 cloak of protection has less MC than elven, right? 07:49 brb 07:50 Mickmane: the other way around 07:50 CoP is the only cloak with MC3 these days 07:50 they both have the same (3) 07:50 elenmirie_: slex is based on 3.4.3 though ;) 07:50 oh, slex, sorry! :D 07:50 missed the context 07:50 and also for the cloak of protection, the in-game item information should likewise say it has MC3 07:52 ah, right, should have thought of that.Thanks! 07:53 so, keep protection cloadk then, I guess? 07:53 yay, finally crowned 07:53 congrats! 07:53 ty 07:54 that's important in evil 07:54 Mickmane: you do want better AC, right? I'd go with protection :D 07:54 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/576738859191107615/unknown.png 07:54 <@Andrio Celos> Your barracks seems to have a bit of an infestation 07:54 well, I skipped some boots that had 1 point more AC, but I need high heels really. My sandals don't have them, do they? 07:54 Mickmane: uhh what sandals are they? 07:54 wedge sandals 07:55 I don't know what wedge sandals are :) 07:55 ... 07:55 well, they're high-heeled of course, and yet again, the in-game item information should say so 07:55 it says appearance heeled sandals... 07:55 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:56 but appearance can be deceiving :) my cloak of Prot is brick! 07:56 I mean, you're a role that depends on high heels. You start with a pair of sandals. Why would I be so weird and make it so that those aren't high-heeled? :P 07:56 Ok, it does say high-heeled, forgot. so, I better keep them until I find some other ones? 07:56 you screw with interface! ;P 07:57 this is an example of a wedge sandal: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61IHhZeeLZL._UY395_.jpg - have you ever worn such sandals IRL? ;) 07:57 what does apppraise do, oh, seeing what my weapon has for +/-? 07:57 yeah, and also tells you how much damage the weapon does 07:57 ugh, no :) 07:58 I mean, I like to look at some high heels, but they must have slim heels, and not too high 07:58 what people run around with in, for example, Lucifer!? how is that even possibe? :) 07:59 Wait 07:59 Soldiers can't be extinct this early, right? 07:59 hey, does the game have over-knee high heeled boots? now that'd be something for my char 07:59 heh, I participated in a 10km race last year, wearing wedge sandals :D 07:59 also, what about whatstheword for the thing they wore in that movie? 07:59 yes, red overknees exist in slex :D 07:59 oh, red, shame, I don#t like red. :) 08:00 I'd be surprised if I walked 10km this year so far, to tram, tram to doctor, to and through shop... :) 08:01 what's form III? 08:01 Hm 08:01 Dlvl:24 bones 08:02 Mickmane: still https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Skills :P it's a lightsaber combat form 08:02 btw, why am I not better at searching, I hit s whenever I wait. 08:02 oh, skills page, should have remembered 08:02 you need to find 20 things (secret corridors, traps etc.) to go from unskilled to basic searching 08:02 ah, good to know, thanks 08:04 Oh hey, she had silver dragon scales 08:04 And Exalibur 08:04 cool! 08:04 Mm 08:05 janekw, killed by a xorn while fainted from lack of food 08:05 And two bags of holding 08:05 aw, poor janekw 08:06 mm 08:12 Yay, shield of reflection 08:13 let's swap for a ring of conflict I just id'd by shopkeeper :) 08:13 hm, need to make more coffee 08:14 and I need to leave for work; see you later :) 08:15 !tell Tangles that crash makes absolutely no sense, apparently hack.c somehow thought maxlunar was punished when he wasn't, and therefore ended up trying to unplace a nonexistant iron chain... no idea why it would do that 08:15 Tangles shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 08:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:18 lol at slex cheese description: Can be used to tame rats. It can be eaten by vegetarians but not by vegans. Not that anyone is likely to care. 08:18 Why would no one care? 08:18 lol, onion: A tasty vegetarian food that currently does not make you blind. 08:22 reminds me of an old fruitname of mine, "piece of cheese" 08:22 hehe 08:22 may go back to that (it's currently "peanut mochi") 08:22 mine's Solar Flare 08:23 comes from giving pets and fruits names from Startopia 08:30 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had a orcish dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:16193 08:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:45 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 8815 points, T:383, killed by a jackal 08:51 remindme to ask if finalized scrolls of scare monster can't crumble (slex) 08:56 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 08:59 So, apparently some orcs spawned in this treasure zoo, and half of them spilled out into the corridor 09:00 happens, right? :) 09:00 Seems so. ^^ 09:04 !tell K2: the iron bars in the wiz quest don't break with force bolt, but there is no explanatory message (you fixed that previously for the castle) 09:04 Will do, elenmirie_! 09:04 lol: "You feel a certain tension. This message was stolen from ADOM." 09:04 This might end up being a wishless game 09:04 interesting 09:07 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 27359 points, T:2016, killed by a small mimic 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] rdplatypus (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15028 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:74700 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:74713 09:14 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 25362 points, T:1685, killed by a rothe 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 24121 points, T:15110, quit 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:74897 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided disenchanter, on T:74946 09:22 * NCommander strechs 09:23 How do you feel today, NCommander? 09:25 SOmewhat better 09:25 At least something. :) 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:52683 09:27 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2635 09:30 Oh, the message I was wondering about. You hear a nether voice. What does that mean? (slex) 09:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:41 ugh I don’t want to fight Medusa in Evil without reflection, AGAIN 09:47 Blecch! Rotten mythril! 09:48 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 36530 points, T:5065, killed by a bugbear 09:51 Bugpowder, is it harder than in vanilla? 09:51 yes 09:51 eek 09:51 in the way when I wanted to kill a wererat 09:51 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Pri Ang Fem Law) killed Nicole, on T:29284 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] k2 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 86 points, T:352, killed by kicking a wall 09:52 hi 09:52 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 09:52 K2: Messages from hothraxxa, elenmirie_, and raisse have been forwarded to you privately. 09:53 pretty fun. 09:53 nethack 3.6.2 official release was earlier this morning FYI 09:53 <@Tone> I've seen an ant generate in the castle barracks before and I've always wondered what caused that. 09:53 updating 362-hdf to match offiical release code 09:54 a soldier was carrying a raw egg in their lunchbox 09:54 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 09:54 rc cfg files will need to be copied over but this will be last time to ever have to do that (changing naming convention so back end things stay the same regardless) 09:56 dude what is this level just below medusa with like shimmering dragons and blue dragons and skeletons and stuff 09:56 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Sam Hum Mal Law), 31601 points, T:2973, killed by a giant mimic 09:59 Bugpowder evilhack? 09:59 yeah 09:59 at Medusa without reflection agian 10:00 pre gehennom 10:01 some lava shit too 10:01 I realllllly need some reflection 10:02 fuck this game 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Ran Cen Mal Neu), 95049 points, T:14361, petrified by a beholder 10:03 yeah the lave is noral 10:03 normal 10:03 how did i just die 10:03 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2158 10:03 sleep ray then turned to stone 10:03 petrified by a beholder 10:03 ugh 10:04 should have worn my towel 10:04 no shame dying to those. they are nasty 10:04 BTW I have a fun strategy 10:04 for sokoban 10:05 but I’m afraid you will fix it if I share! 10:05 can collect all 3 items with some care 10:05 i heard 10:05 ;) 10:05 there's a couple different ways to get all three 10:05 only managed to get 2 this time,… 10:05 nice 10:05 i need to address 10:06 back burner that one 10:06 :) 10:06 hah 10:06 I guess I should go pay attention to my kids now 10:06 in slex, what would be safe level and equipment to start playing with fountains? (dipping) 10:08 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 10:09 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/576772857103646720/unknown.png 10:09 <@Andrio Celos> The castle is messed up 10:10 you extincted soldiers because you made the tou quest 10:11 <@Shin Umbygashima> I FEEL like that's just monster generation taking the mickey 10:11 mm 10:11 But... that giant ant? 10:11 random 10:12 where is there a giant ant? 10:13 There was one on another barracks before the quest. 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2769334 points, T:77361, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/samiam/nh361/dumplog/1556802808.nh361.txt 10:21 Wiz he is 10:22 wth!? 10:23 game said I died, then apparently it was only kidding!? 10:23 <{Demo}2> lol 10:23 <{Demo}2> owned 10:24 "As you read the scroll, it disappears. 10:24 You fall below the bottom of the page! You die... 10:24 Do you want your possessions identified? DYWYPI? [ynq] (n) _ 10:24 This is an identify scroll. 10:24 scary! 10:25 gah, silly potions resisting id isn't very friendly. :) 10:26 also, why are the monsters suddenly so nasty, not long ago they were 1d4 damage, now I have 2d4 4d5 10:27 maybe some trap cursed me, and that's what that message I keep seeing is about? 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 4414 points, T:4153, quit 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 3298294 points, T:54037, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nh361/dumplog/1557364929.nh361.txt 10:33 congrats! 10:34 congrats oh6 10:34 rceditor is up for 362-hdf official codebase version 10:35 will be easy to transfer cfg 10:35 I love how dynamic this all is now 10:35 after 12 years in the wilderness 10:36 d - a dog or other canine (tame large cat called Aja) 10:36 silly 10:36 My cat, Coco, expresses disdain 10:37 my invisible cat died somewhere, must find a new one, and not accidentally zap the wand at it :) 10:37 Coco would not like to be invisible, because then she might not get her dinner 10:38 Although she does like being stealthy 10:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:41 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Bar Hum Mal Cha) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:6345 10:47 hmm, nh362 doesn't seem to be picking up my rcfile 10:49 oh6 new version of 362-hdf 10:49 its based off of official release from this morning 10:49 right 10:49 i changed user paths/rc file name to be more generic so when newer releases come out i dont have to change shit all the time 10:50 aha 10:50 the web based rc editor is up already so it should be fairly painless to edit over 10:50 i'm still working on eu and au servers 10:51 yeah, dgamelaunch edit commands are still editing the version-specific files 10:51 OK, web editor it is, then 10:51 elenmirie_, I managed to throw Memau tripe for stealing, even while not seeing her. :) 10:52 K2: welcome back again ;) 10:52 wonder what (in slex) had the monster level/attack raise so drastically while I was busy in the shop 10:53 rise* 10:55 thanks paxed ;) 10:55 should be back semi regularly now 10:56 paxed: congrats on the official 3.6.2 release 10:56 now I have a young silver dragon! :) 10:56 wonder if it'll grow up 10:57 the dragon could zap a wand (slex), that's strange. 10:57 K2: heh, thanks. group effort, and all that... 10:59 Mickmane, monster rate accelerates over time in SLEX 10:59 you mean when I hang out too long on the same level? 10:59 because next one doesn't seem so terrible again 11:00 Mickmane, in general, I dunno, Amy is the best person to ask 11:00 yeah, she'll be back in 3h or so, I think 11:01 paxed: tell the rest of the team congrats too ;) 11:01 nhmall: ^ 11:01 trying to use a taming ability: 11:01 * K2 pokes bhaak 11:01 You strike a sexy pose with your heels! 11:01 the shruncus is too stupid to fully appreciate you! 11:01 lol 11:01 oh hey nhmall 11:02 K2: I mostly provided morale support 11:02 so question: will updates be made to the official 3.6.2 codebase or will the devteam cut over to working on 3.6.3 beta / 3.7.x ? 11:03 there wont be a 3.6.3 11:03 asking for a friend 11:03 a 3.6.3 is not expected 11:04 ooh 11:04 thats significant news 11:04 not so much 11:04 so 3.7.x beta when? :P 11:04 a 3.6.2 was also not expected 11:05 and it's not like I'm blurting out any secrets. that's what it says in the release announcement :-) 11:05 well 11:05 who has time to read annoucements 11:09 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:11 bhaak, no one expects the Spanish Inquistion (or the devteam to release something) 11:13 stenno: "there wont be a 3.6.3" is too strong a statement. You never know what sort of glitches will show up after a release and some people only pick up actual releases 11:14 nhmall: i more or less quoted the annouencement 11:14 but yeah i guess it was changed for 3.6.2 already 11:14 so might be changed again 11:14 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 49901 points, T:10638, killed by a jaguar 11:15 but i think 3.6.2 is quite well tested now given that it was hosted on HDF the whole time 11:15 <@Tone> @Andrio Celos Have you been to Fort Ludios? 11:16 @Tone tou quest 11:16 maybe also ludios i guess but tou quest shoudl be enough 11:16 Andrio your next 362-hdf game you'll need to copy over your cfg 11:17 NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers) 11:17 K2: Hello. I was led to believe that you were away until mid-June? Maybe bad info 11:17 ^^ updated to official 3.6.2 vanilla release codebase 11:17 nhmall: was supposed to be offline until may 21st or so 11:18 my training was cut short, hurt my back pretty good yesterday so i am out of the 'box' 11:18 oh thats good 11:18 well 11:18 * K2 smacks stenno 11:18 idk 11:18 its not good that you hurt yourself 11:18 :P 11:18 but its good that you are back 11:19 ok 11:19 old back injury resurfaced 11:19 in spades 11:19 i'm ok, but sitting/bending is really interesting right now 11:19 aw, sorry to hear 11:20 complaining backs are a pain, pun intended. 11:20 thanks. its happened before just this time was really crazy 11:20 are there any interesting changes that weren't in the public facing repo already? 11:20 I have a heating cushioin attached to my chair, as long as it's under 25C in here, it's on. 11:20 shoulda got bone spurs. just sayin 11:20 will take a bit to recover 11:20 hothraxxa: i asked for 3rd trimester pregnancy 11:20 Good luck on it being as quick as possible! :) 11:20 got back issues instead 11:21 thanks Mickmane 11:21 i understnd those come with pregnancy, maybe you're just not showing yet 11:21 that must be it, k2 is pregnant 11:22 stenno has some explaining to do 11:22 was actually just going to quote another funny from slex: 11:22 You strike a sexy pose with your heels! 11:22 the spell capturer is charmed, and wants to be your friend! :))) 11:22 lol 11:22 you said it was just a jedi mind trick 11:22 ikr 11:22 i come to, 7 months pregnant 11:22 wtf 11:22 power of the jedi trick 11:26 <@Andrio Celos> Not in that game. 11:27 "You displaced your doll mistress called Friendly the spell capturer." what's a doll mistress? (spell capturer is the monster type). 11:28 stenno: Ah, yes tourist quest would do it. 11:28 rld bot is one-way right now by the way so no one on discord-side can see you guys 11:29 oh 11:29 <@Andrio Celos> waves to tonehack. 11:29 nice, I can't stand the thing :) 11:29 that makes communication more difficult 11:29 regret ever installing it, uninstalled when I noticed it was spying on what I was playing. Never mind the awkward optins and it spamming my emain for weeks after. 11:32 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 11:32 -!- card.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ K2 is afk, pls !tell Tangles for game crash recovery 11:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 11:32 !ping 11:32 K2: Pong! 11:32 K2: are the hdf changes still in the version that is hosted here now? 11:34 yeah 11:34 its still 362-hdf 11:34 ok cool 11:34 just based off of the official release vanilla verison 11:34 oh no there was a bigass merge 11:34 time to read the diff >.< 11:34 was waiting for that to happen before changing file paths and such 11:34 gotcha, nice 11:35 so now future releases will be zero ass pain for peoples rc cfgs etc 11:35 have you seen that paxed now has rcfile copying in DGL on NAO too? 11:36 oh nice 11:38 ok gotta log for a bit 11:38 be back soon 11:38 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 11:38 laters 11:38 beholder is updated to support latest 362-hdf 11:38 o/ 11:39 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 11:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 11:40 didn't find anything too interesting in the latest merges 11:40 so the version we played with here was more or less the same than the actual 3.6.2 release 11:42 <{Demo}2> oh shit k2 showed up 11:43 o shit whaddup 11:43 here come dat boi 11:44 windowports are less hard than i previously assumed 11:44 i had to look into it a lot for nodehack 11:45 and it's actually rather chill 11:45 windowports are supposed to be easy, I think 11:45 because windowport + systemport is all you need to port NetHack onto a new platform, so if those are as small as possible, it lets us get the game onto more platforms 11:48 <{Demo}2> man I should have made a list of things to bother k2 about cause I know I have some but idk what most of them are anymore 11:48 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of sflicht, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:13278 11:49 <{Demo}2> hey ais, do you know about the change that stinking clouds now show up on top of lava/water (for 3.6.0) 11:49 <{Demo}2> seems very intentional that it didn't do that so you could see the lava/water and not fall in 11:49 <{Demo}2> can't tell if it's the right decision or not 11:50 <{Demo}2> curious if anyone had thought about it more than me 11:50 <{Demo}2> (yeah I know it's for lava plane ) 11:50 i saw a bug related to this where the stinking cloud would kill underwater monsters 11:51 <{Demo}2> this is purely display 11:51 beholder is gonna be in 362-hdf? 11:51 nasty creature 11:51 <{Demo}2> what 11:51 beholder is the channel bot 11:51 <{Demo}2> yeah 11:51 not the dnd monster 11:51 ha 11:51 lol 11:51 beholder just killed me in evil 11:52 one minute you are crushing it 11:52 well yes 11:52 <{Demo}2> they have naos annnouncement bot in vanilla 11:52 then next minute… you fall asleep, you are turning to stone, DYWYPI? 11:52 <{Demo}2> the b in beholder is for balanced 11:53 <{Demo}2> the l is for lol and the s is for sike 11:53 wtf 11:53 caged white D on level 2 11:54 <{Demo}2> welcome to evil, don't get breathed on 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 120 points, T:493, killed by a blast of frost 11:54 <{Demo}2> you can literally start the game in the room with a caged dragom 11:54 lol 11:54 <{Demo}2> caged beholder would be meaner 11:56 caged nazgul 11:57 <{Demo}2> caged archon 11:57 nazgul is worse than archon 11:57 nazgul doesn't need LOS 11:57 <{Demo}2> the scream is that bad? 11:57 mhm 11:57 <{Demo}2> stunlock with only 1 of them bad? 11:58 stunlock is always bad 11:58 and then comes a newt and kills you 11:58 <{Demo}2> no but can only 1 stunlock u 11:58 yeah 11:58 <{Demo}2> (assuming no unihorn) 11:58 the sporkhack nazgul can 11:58 <{Demo}2> stunning / confusing is dumb cause there's only 1 counter 11:58 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 11:58 well its a scream stun 11:59 so you can probaly deafen yourself 11:59 <{Demo}2> no earmuffs 11:59 <{Demo}2> but I mean in general 11:59 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 12:00 <{Demo}2> there's only one variant I know of that has any other source of dealing with stun/confuse 12:00 <{Demo}2> and it's only for one role by the time they are xlvl 30 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 6 darts on an altar, on T:3997 12:04 wand engraving riddled with bullet holes, magic missile or force bolt? 12:05 (I hope it's the same in slex) 12:05 mm 12:05 <{Demo}2> mm 12:05 thanks :) 12:05 <{Demo}2> what would a good other way to deal with stunning/confusion be? 12:05 restore ability dual-use 12:06 maybe 12:06 or make healing pots more powerful in that regard 12:06 <{Demo}2> that's not good 12:07 <{Demo}2> thinking maybe an amulet of clarity for later game which makes you immune and maybe something else more accessible early on 12:07 well, that was weird, the damage reversed to me after I killed that weird bat thing 12:08 oh lol, in slex that wand is of shared pain 12:19 -!- Andrio has quit [Quit: while already on Charon's boat.] 12:20 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 12:20 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 12:21 * NCommander sees ais523 appear from the nether mists 12:21 I was just reconnecting, my network is kind-of flaky 12:24 ais523, Your connection dies. But wait, it's amulet glows. You are reconnected! 12:33 I need a nap, see you later. :) 12:33 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 315 points, T:1241, killed by a fire elemental of Venus, while praying 12:34 * elenmirie_ hands Mickmane a blessed amulet of restful sleep 12:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> Neat™ 12:52 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/576813839266611203/Capture_2019-05-11-12-51-47.png 12:53 that's, what, 5% I think? 12:56 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:16907 12:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Mon Swn Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:6039 13:03 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:05 <@Shin Umbygashima> And dead because forgot my bones had reflection and tried to freeze the wraith 13:05 <@Shin Umbygashima> That's gonna be a mess 13:07 <{Demo}2> nethack should have skinks 13:08 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 13:09 why? 13:09 <{Demo}2> cause skinks are cool and zippy and all the : are slow 13:12 i think i'd rather try making the already existing : more different somehow than just adding a "fast lizard" 13:12 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 30326 points, T:7086, dissolved in molten lava 13:15 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 13:15 <@luxidream> hey, my curses mysteriously vanished on hdf 13:15 <@luxidream> what happened? 13:15 different config file? 13:17 <@Tone> @luxidream Bridge-bot is one-way at the moment 13:17 <@Tone> @mtf ^ 13:18 <@paxed> @luxidream different config file? 13:18 <@Tone> I think config files may need to be updated after the transition to 362 13:18 <@luxidream> my config file is still intact 13:18 <@luxidream> what changes should I make 13:19 <@Tone> Is it a "361" config file still? 13:19 <@Tone> I saw K2 talking about it earlier but only caught the tail-end of the conversation, it may be worth checking the irc log from this morning. 13:20 <@Tone> Actually my curses works fine 13:21 <@Tone> At least for the saved game I just loaded 13:21 everyone joins the dark side smh my head 13:21 Curses? 13:21 stenno: hm? 13:22 discord :P 13:22 i've got it parked there, but i don't really use it 13:23 i looked into getting a bitlbee or whatever gateway to discord on my server, but all of them seem to be those "we've wrapped a whole browser into an app" things... 13:23 bleh 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "holy historic fixed greased empty +5 helm of brilliance named wizzard", on T:16918 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3264 13:26 <@luxidream> I got it 13:27 <@luxidream> updated the second rcfile 13:27 fucking anhur 13:27 he gets magicban, i get an orcish dagger 13:27 +e 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2189 points, T:4856, killed by a human zombie 13:30 if you're getting killed by zombies you might as well play evilhack 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1429 points, T:2493, killed by a giant bat 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 61 points, T:269, killed by a jackal 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 23 points, T:205, killed by a kobold zombie 13:35 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 10 points, T:163, killed by a newt 13:35 should i get the good sushi from the sushi place or rather the not so good sushi from the supermarket 13:37 the former 13:37 save the latter for when you get drunk 13:37 but its more expensive 13:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Val Dwa Fem Law), 444 points, T:754, killed by a dwarf 13:37 hah 13:37 this supermarket sushi smells like it could be tainted. eat? (y/n) 13:37 heh 13:38 always splurge on sushi 13:38 ... that sounds bad 13:38 dont cut costs when it comes to sushi 13:40 k2: we need to talk about evilhack shops 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1537 points, T:1460, killed by a hill orc called Paxed of RemoveOrctownin363 13:40 i love your level generator but it creates bad shops 13:41 in what way 13:42 two examples from recent games 13:42 in one, one wall was a line of lava 13:42 yeah thats friggin awesome 13:42 i saw that in one of my test games 13:42 i can freeze it and then what? 13:42 stamp of approval 13:43 then you can walk over it 13:43 shop boundary still exists 13:43 ok. how about a shop generating in a dvided room therefore it gets two doors 13:43 sure 13:43 i've been in plenty of stores that had more than one entrance/exit 13:43 actually my beef is that i had a boh that i put stuff in i wanted to swipe 13:43 pseudodragon picks it up... and drops it in the lava 13:44 i'm curious, what does the shopkeeper do if you try to exit the 2n door 13:44 2nd 13:44 hothraxxa: that sounds appropriately evil 13:44 he doesn't warn you, but i have not tried leaving with unpaid items 13:44 ooh look shiny. drop in lava weeee look at it burn 13:44 pets are back to carrying around zombie corpses btw 13:44 i should make a bouncer class 13:45 huh 13:45 oh 13:45 i know why 13:45 well 13:45 i have a good idea as to why 13:45 is it all pets or just the pseudodragon 13:45 semismaug picked up my zombie corpse and kept dropping it next to me 13:46 i don't think other pets can carry that much. maybe a warhorse 13:46 is it all pets or just the pseudodragon 13:46 asked and answered 13:46 i must have missed it? 13:47 i don't think other pets can carry that much. maybe a warhorse 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2198 points, T:3034, killed by a gnome 13:47 that doesnt answer my question lol 13:47 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:47 elder pseudodragon to be accurate, but you knew that 13:48 ok so you havent tried this recently with other pets 13:48 well i haven't had any other pets since it started to happen again 13:48 i know why then 13:48 its when i made pseudodragons M1_ANIMAL 13:48 i have two pseudodragons. that's good enough for me 13:49 the 'dont pick up zombie corpses dummy' fell under the intelligent pet code 13:49 besides, i'm still likely to die soon 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 913 points, T:2095, killed by a dwarf king 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 35 points, T:284, killed by a jackal 13:53 [backscroll] stenno, stop telling everyone evilhack nazgul's are crazy like in sporkhack lol 13:53 they have to be able to eyes on you before they scream now heh 13:54 hothraxxa: i'll look at the zombie corpse thingagain when i make it home. I'm going to release evilhack 0.3.2 before junethack, will try to have a fix in then 13:55 ^ 3rd tier pseudodragons 13:55 !who 13:55 K2: [hdf-us] Grouchy [nh362] oh6 [nh362] Luxidream [nh362] kdg [dnh] hothraxxa [evil] yann [nh4] MaxLunar [slex] saxonysam [un] groovejumper [fh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh362] 13:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1037 points, T:1923, killed by a dwarf 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 936 points, T:1903, killed by an Uruk-hai 14:00 The wood nymph talks to the hobbit zombie engagingly. 14:00 good luck there, sweetie 14:00 fetish case 14:01 K2: i thought you told it to me yourself 14:01 noooo 14:01 that it took the nazgul and the only thing that was changed is that they cannnot be genocided anymore 14:01 no not at all 14:01 hm strange 14:02 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/bffbf698ff0990d80d8467ed132f62f6ba745b58 14:03 ok 14:03 sorry 14:03 :P 14:04 !booze stenno 14:04 * Beholder passes stenno a barrel of the hooch, fermented by the late Pinobot at 49 degrees Fahrenheit. 14:04 the late pinobot 14:04 aw 14:04 i will actually drink some beer later tonight 14:05 drink one for meeee 14:05 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:23370 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1203 points, T:2049, killed by Ms. Kiltamagh; the shopkeeper 14:07 http://nethack.org/v362/release.html <--- awesome 14:08 -!- K2 changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ NetHack 3.6.2 official release; 362-hdf has been updated accordingly. New cfg file, online editor is available 14:09 paxed: why do you have to do an official release when i'm gone? pure chance i just happened to be able to get back online today 14:10 K2: of course 14:10 paxed == the RNG 14:11 its like you knew 14:11 maybe even the *cause* 14:11 :P 14:11 stenno! jedi mind trick paxed, quick! 14:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:34826 14:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:24 <@mtf> ah sorry, on it 14:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:24 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 14:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 14:30 hehe 14:45 got some sushi from the sushi place after all 14:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:49 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Mon Hum Mal Neu) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:5873 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 673 points, T:2225, killed by a kitten, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:51 and kimchi 14:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:05 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:22476 15:10 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 15:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Mon Clk Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1382 15:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Mon Clk Mal Law), 2907 points, T:1480, killed by a xorn 15:29 -!- Andrio has quit [Quit: while already on Charon's boat.] 15:36 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 15:37 -!- aosdict has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:43 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 15:43 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 15:44 !tell Mickmane of course finalized scare monsters can crumble. finalized only means the item can't be blanked, cancelled or diluted; it can still e.g. be BUC-changed, cleared via unihorn, alchemized, written on with a magic marker etc. 15:44 Mickmane shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 15:44 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Mon Hum Mal Neu) received Vorpal Blade from Chih Sung-tzu, on T:12541 15:45 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:46 !tell Mickmane "you hear a nether voice" is a new message that tells you there's a fountain on the level; the voice belongs to the water demon that lives in the fountain :D 15:46 No worries, LarienTelrunya, I've got this! 15:46 did a new 3.6.2-hdf get released? none of my options are taking effect 8^( 15:47 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 15:49 ya - all my options are *ucked up 15:51 eraserhead97.nh361rc looks like (same as before), but 3.6.2-hdf seems to be ignoring it 15:55 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:56 something seems to have changed between last night and this morning 8^( 15:56 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 15:56 no statushilites, no windowtype:curses - nothing 15:56 yo Mickmane! I just left you some !tell's a couple minutes ago ;) 15:57 wow 15:57 Mickmane: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-11 15:44 EDT: of course finalized scare monsters can crumble. finalized only means the item can't be blanked, cancelled or diluted; it can still e.g. be BUC-changed, cleared via unihorn, alchemized, written on with a magic marker etc. 15:57 Mickmane: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-11 15:46 EDT: "you hear a nether voice" is a new message that tells you there's a fountain on the level; the voice belongs to the water demon that lives in the fountain :D 15:58 oh, so the fountain is magical? 15:58 what would I need for playing with fountains, dipping? 15:58 not necessarily; only quaffing can let you find out whether it is 15:58 as in level and stuff 15:58 ah! 15:58 dipping isn't that dangerous, though you should have phase door or teleport prepared in case monsters are summoned 15:59 In the level I hung out in the store, I later found giants and other mean stuff with high attack, as opposed to the 1d4 things I was familiar with, wondering where the mean stuff is. What caused that? 15:59 how would I know? maybe just RNG, maybe you're deep enough that those can spawn 15:59 I id'd all my scrolls, then the shopkeeper didn't offer that anymore, should have id'd potions for see invisible 15:59 or maybe you had aggravate monster, which can cause out of depth monsters to appear 15:59 dl:7, xp9 or so 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 133 points, T:515, killed by an arrow 15:59 well then, the regular monster difficulty would be 8 15:59 ah, aggravate monster is something I'd pick up unknowingly 16:00 !who 16:00 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] every [nh362] kdg [dnh] MaxLunar [slex] saxonysam [un] sflicht [fh] groovejumper [fh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh362] 16:00 it's no so much how much damage the monsters can do, but their base levels; those depend on depth and XL 16:00 on othre levels I find monsters with base level 0, what caused that? 16:00 Mickmane: well that's definitely RNG, in slex it's always possible for monsters to be level 0 16:00 also, my invisible cat died, I now have a young silver dragon, does that grow up? 16:00 cool 16:00 i.e. if X is your monster difficulty, monsters from a difficulty of 0-X can then spawn regularly, and higher ones less often. 16:01 yeah the dragon will grow up several times and become awesome :D 16:01 what's RNG interventioni attack? 16:01 but he's still slower than me with heels (with later speed bonus?) 16:01 RNG intervention picks any random damage type and applies that, very dangerous if it rolls e.g. pestilence attack. 16:01 yeah in heels you'll outspeed the dragon 16:02 ouch at pestilence attack 16:02 what else was there 16:02 ya - startup message says Version 3.6.2 Unix, built May 11 09:18:55 2019 for 3.6.2-hdf - who do I send a message to to report this problem - it's unplayable without the resource file 16:02 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 16:02 I have a pet that's a playable character with a sword that does lightning strike, how bad an idea is that? 16:03 Mickmane: shock has a chance to destroy rings and wands in monster inventories, but you probably already noticed that item destruction is greatly toned down in slex 16:03 I noticed that I didn#t see anything destroyed. :) 16:03 should I get a bullwhip and try to take it off him, or use technique disarm? 16:03 will he hate me for it? 16:03 eraserhead97 16:03 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 16:03 You strike a sexy pose with your heels! 16:03 the spell capturer is charmed, and wants to be your friend! 16:03 MOTD - 2019-05-11: NetHack 3.6.2 official release. NetHack 362-HDF updated to official release version codebase. This comes with a new config file; online editor is available. But when I use 2) or @), it edits the 3.6.1 file so the menu needs to be changed? 16:04 you'll need to rebuild the rc cfg file 16:04 Mickmane: disarm could reduce his tameness, but if it's high to begin with it'll be fine 16:04 K2: how do I do that? 16:04 one sec 16:04 I used the charm technique 16:04 yeah that's what attire charm is for :) 16:04 * LarienTelrunya wants to be charmed by Mickmane's sexy high heels too ♥ 16:04 also, my dragon seemed to have used a wand before I tamed it (with scroll), is that possible? 16:04 lol 16:05 first attempt got me 16:05 You strike a sexy pose with your heels! 16:05 the shruncus is too stupid to fully appreciate you! 16:05 in slex, all monsters can use items; you can be killed by a lichen with the wand of death if the RNG feels like it :P 16:05 oh, wow 16:05 eraserhead97 this is your original one - https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nh361/eraserhead97.nh361rc 16:05 yes, when I use 2) or @) Edit options, that's the one that shows up (not nh362) 16:06 copy/paste it inot the web based rc editor here - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/rcedit/ 16:06 for 362-hdf (official 3.6.2 version) 16:06 oooh 16:06 hah i missed that this morning 16:06 easy fix 16:07 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 54080 points, T:14497, killed by an energy vortex 16:08 ok eraserhead97 - log out of dgl, log back in 16:08 good to go 16:09 LarienTelrunya, did you see the messages where I asked for someone to remind me to ask for this or that? 16:09 I forgot what they were. 16:09 How did you know about the questions anyway, with being offline? 16:09 (fixing on eu and au servers too) 16:09 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 16:09 Mickmane: we have logs :D https://www.hardfought.org/irclog/%23hardfought-2019-05-11.log 16:09 cool! 16:10 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 16:13 got that resolved - thanks for bringing that up eraserhead97 16:14 K2: it did something, but not quite fully working - I got errors on lines 17, 29, 48 (so something went through), so I commented out those lines - but once I'm in, none of the (other) GUI options seem to come up 16:15 some settings in the rc cfg changed 16:15 lemme look at your original 16:18 eraserhead97 look at line 17 16:18 you have two lines merged into one 16:18 <26status: 16:18 game cant read that 16:19 and you have your entire menucolors commented out... that on purpose? 16:20 getting * Line 20: boolean option specified multiple times: menucolors. - lemme try to fix 16:21 I think I commented those out because of this error message 16:21 is there a URL with the new rc specifications? gonna google for those docs now 16:22 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:25507 16:23 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) defeated the Master of Thieves, on T:26021 16:24 ok - I commented out the earlier settings and it went through - with no errors, but on the gui itself, I'm not getting hp statusbars, ncurses or anything else 16:25 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 16:25 I'll try debugging it myself for a bit... 16:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 16:28 ok ncurses working now - but it looks like my original file in https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nh361/eraserhead97.nh361rc has been smashed - I wonder if there's a way to get it back so I can migrate it bit-by-bit into the new rc file 16:28 eraserhead97 i dont understand what the issue is. just copy/paste your old cfg to the new one. use the web editor 16:28 (get back the original file, I mean) 16:28 its fast/easy 16:29 have you not used the web editor here before? 16:30 your original file is untouched unless you edited it recently 16:31 first time just a few moments ago - but the vim editor via ssh seems to be working now, so I'll play with that - thx 16:32 i can fix it for you in 2 sec 16:32 stop what you're doing so we dont overwrite each other 16:32 ok - I'm out of the editor 16:32 ok load a game 16:33 perfecto! tyvm, sir ^^ 16:33 no prob 16:33 i just did on the backend what you can do with the web editor on the front end :P 16:34 K2: add an option to dgl for players to copy their 361 rc to 362? 16:34 i need to do a mass rc cfg copy 16:34 or that 16:34 hehe - I tried using that web editor, but guess I'm still too old-school - ty for your help - aye mass rc cfg copy would be great 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4278 16:36 seriosuly... i'm an idiot 16:37 i already have a cfg file copier in plae for the tnnt 16:37 i can just use it 16:37 *place 16:37 brb 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4281 16:41 ok old to new 362-hdf cfg copier is on hdf-us 16:41 setting up for eu and au 16:41 nice! 16:45 ok setup on eu and au servers also 16:46 * K2 smacks himself upside the head 16:48 why do that? 16:48 because it works 16:49 :P 16:49 you have an odd way of rewarding yourself ;P 16:49 oh its not a reward ;) 16:50 then again, why do it? 16:52 imagine a lot of the things i say here bracketed with 16:52 * K2 speaks fluent sarcasm 16:53 I don't have a dictionary for that. 16:53 paxed: thanks for pointing out the obvious hah 16:53 Mickmane is english not your first language? 16:53 ^ asking seriously 16:53 I mean a dictionary for sarcasm 16:54 ah 16:54 one does not exist 16:54 you either get it, or you dont 16:54 I might use it myself, but often enough don't get others', if I don't know them. 16:55 i'll admit i have somewhat of a dry sense of humor. sometimes i dont even get what i'm saying 16:55 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 33079 points, T:3499, killed by a giant bat 16:55 how's that for weird 16:55 hah, at least I can sympathise with no one getting one's jokes. :) 16:55 it was funny in my head. all that matters ;) 16:55 btw, I was born in the UK, but not been back there for oh, 25+ years or so. living in Germany, hannover 16:55 ah ok 16:55 books and arguing on usenet kept my English alive, these days Steam. 16:56 well... welcome to Hardfought. i dont think i've seen you here before today 16:56 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 16:56 no, I dropped into nao every few years and played a game or three, after I got broadband in 2009. Played some vanilla and slashem on DOS back early 2000s 16:56 thanks for the welcome :) 16:57 -!- K2 changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ NetHack 3.6.2 official release; 362-hdf has been updated accordingly. New cfg file, old-to-new copy and online editor is available 16:57 fortunately, I have a german Ausweis, so no worries about that stupid exit thing. :) 16:57 -!- K2 changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ NetHack 3.6.2 official release; 362-hdf has been updated accordingly. New cfg file, old-to-new copy and online editor are available 16:57 oh, seems like 3.6.2 is out 16:57 ^ because grammar is not my strong suit 16:57 Mickmane ;) 16:58 heya aosdict 16:58 hi K2 16:58 yeah it was official release today 16:58 how's the hike going? 16:58 I can't spot differences. 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZD12 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 32160 points, T:5688, killed by a white unicorn 16:59 Mickmane: many of the changes are subtle, or minor 16:59 lots of bug fixes 16:59 btw, I think it was stenno who mentioned this chat, I wanted to play in browser becasue of with tiles, but now I'm playing slex via putty. :) 16:59 curses support is probably the most noticble change 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 603 points, T:2402, killed by a wererat 16:59 and statuslines options 17:00 K2: well two people just got stabbed and possibly killed right where I am 17:00 oh, is->are, now I see it. 17:00 ouch, for real? 17:00 everyone is shaken up 17:00 aosdict: you ok? 17:00 yeah I’m fine 17:00 ok good 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5525 17:02 not the sort of thing you really expect out here 17:02 was it hiker vs hiker or some thugs trying to rob some hikers? 17:02 or something else 17:03 mentally ill guy who’s been hiking and causing trouble already 17:03 damn 17:03 authoritieshave him or is he still at large? 17:03 never enough legal ground to keep him in jail though, until now 17:04 yeah they got him 17:04 good 17:04 glad you're ok 17:05 wow, sounds like a terrible experience, and yes, glad you're ok. 17:06 I decided to pop in since my hosts offered to let me stay another night 17:07 what state are you in now? 17:07 no one wants to move on, and the trail is closed anyway 17:07 virginia 17:07 what kind of hosts are you staying with? 17:07 just got 1/4 done 17:08 some con, work, family,...? 17:08 hiker hostel 17:08 oh boy release notes 17:08 ah 17:09 So is the next thing 3.7.0 17:09 who knows 17:09 it wont be 3.6.3... maybe 17:09 meanwhile... anything interesting with evilhack or splice or TNNT? 17:10 aosdict: one of the bugs found/fixed by Tangles in evilhack applies to xnethack as well 17:10 They said 3.6.1 would be followed by 3.7 and then made 3.6.2 17:10 shopkeepers/priests + zombies issue 17:10 hopefully they'll start working on some gameplay features 17:11 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 17:11 K2: if you could mail it to me I’d appreciate that 17:11 no prob 17:11 or just keep a list going of things I need to fix 17:12 right now i am only tracking it and one other (minor) 17:12 PavelB: seconded 17:12 obj material color reverts back to default as an item is thrown 17:12 as in, as you see the thrown object cross the room, its in its original material color state 17:13 I don’t think that one is fixable without a total rewrite of the display code 17:13 once on the ground, regular material color 17:13 s/regular/actual 17:13 how does an object have an original material colour and a regular one? 17:13 the animation code only has a glyph, not the actual struct obj 17:13 oh 17:13 so by original you mean gray? 17:13 well then hahah 17:14 Mickmane there are a few variants hosted here that have the object materials 'patch' 17:14 so you can have something like a gold or wooden long sword, etc 17:14 reee patchnotes have unbalanced parentheses 17:14 > #turn command which aggravated monsters did so without using a turn not a pun) 17:14 ah, cool 17:14 the color matches the material 17:15 but not when thrown 17:15 thats the minor bug 17:15 I get it now, thanks. :) 17:15 PavelB: however, I think the next thing xnh is going to do (months from now) will be a bunch of stealing from other variants 17:16 K2: I can think of a hacky fix that involves adding another global variable to track the currently flying-through-the-air obj 17:17 because there should only ever be one 17:17 hey you know what would be cool if you could throw a bunch of daggers and have them fan out in multiple directions /s 17:18 that'd be the perfect recipe for aggro'ing guards 8^P 17:18 aosdict: email sent 17:19 thanks 17:19 i do plan on putting out evilhack 0.3.2 before june 17:19 I’m not actually able to check that email until I’m done hiking, but it’s more permanent than tells 17:19 will be adding at least one new creature 17:20 right 17:20 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 83492 points, T:28819, killed by a gray dragon, while frozen by potion vapours 17:20 ah damn 17:21 [hdf-us] [fh] sflicht (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 34399 points, T:3231, killed by a watchman 17:21 splicehack news, not a lot 17:21 antigulp has addressed a few bugs, thats aboutit 17:22 i need to get TNNT up to 3.6.2 official release 17:24 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:25 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 17:25 oh nice only 2 merge conflcits 17:25 one was expected (patchlevel.h) 17:25 I came up with one new TNNT achievement but that’s about it on my end 17:26 nice. what is it? 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Bar Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an elf mummy, on T:5348 17:28 put six potions of booze into an ice box 17:30 I don't think I've ever found and acknowledged an ice box, come to think of it 17:30 how rare are they? 17:31 i think its like 2% 17:31 of all containers 17:31 i remember seeing it when messing with evilhack code 17:31 but i may be off 17:32 aosdict: TNNT is now up to date with 3.6.2 official release 17:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh4] WD11 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 29448 points, T:2526, killed by a giant bat 17:32 what's TNNT? 17:32 the november nethack tournament 17:32 ah, I don't have the mindset for tournaments. :) 17:33 heh 17:33 but wish good luck to everyone! :) 17:33 there are two big ones each year 17:33 junethack, which goes all of june - variants based tournament 17:34 then TNNT which is a custom version of 3.6.2 - lots of achievemnt tracking plus a small bit of custom content 17:34 but the custom content will grow over time 17:34 I never felt the urge to be particularly fast, or well-conducted. :) 17:34 could be fun to watch 17:35 sure 17:35 each cater to the individual player or to teams 17:35 watching works too 17:37 everyone keeps telling me I’m on track to finish in August, not September, so maybe I’ll have enough time to make a meaningful TNNT dev effort this year 17:37 :) 17:39 is LarienTelrunya still around? will a spell be gone from the list when it's forgotten, in slex, or still be there? 17:40 I’m so glad you guys took up the challenge when dev/null ended. Was always a goal to ascend during dev/null but never was good enough to do it when it was running. 17:40 Are MORE people playing Nethack these days or less? 17:40 Bugpowder thanks! 17:40 seems like more 17:40 but i dunno for sure 17:40 that's cool 17:41 Maybe I’ll get around to coding some stuff too…. after tenure. 17:41 * Mickmane goes to the kitchen and see what food I find 17:41 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Mon Akt Fem Cha) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:33501 17:42 Does anyone have the ttyrec or video of Maud’s 2251 turn bones-free speed run? 17:42 links r broken 17:43 hmm 17:43 Mickmane: why would I make it so that you can't have a forgotten spell anymore? of course it will still become a forgotten spell as usual 17:43 No idea how that run could be possible with no bones 17:43 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6659 17:46 Oooooh found a mirror of the dumplog 17:46 https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/dumplog/Maud/1444567290.nh343.txt 17:47 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 17:48 LarienTelrunya, well, I don't know what evil your mind conjures up. :) 17:48 Why would you mess with the interface? ;P 17:49 because I'm e-vil :D 17:49 see? Thus anything's possible. :)) 17:50 well slex does have a design philosophy though, and removing the possibility of using a forgotten spell as a method to confuse yourself would contradict that design philosophy 17:50 oh, forgot about that 17:50 do I go down the main dungeon? Do I go back up to whatever shop has my books? Do I go further up and down mines? What do you think? 17:51 dl:8, xp9, -14AC 17:51 found it 17:51 Mickmane: you could do the mines I guess 17:51 will my young dragon or the sword wielding pet attack shopkeepers? 17:51 where could I expect sokoban? 17:51 pets don't attack shopkeepers or temple priests in slex, unless you use conflict to force the issue 17:51 oh, that's great! 17:51 sokoban upstair is on 8-10, and no longer tied to the oracle location 17:52 I forgot about oracle :) 17:52 while on d:8 I could see if I find it 17:52 the sokoban stairs, I mean 17:53 oh, what way is there to get rid of farmland? 17:53 and what evil ways could drag me off my dragon while over lava? (I remember mines level with lava was next) 17:53 #force (unreliable, may require many tries), or blast fire at the farmland to burn it up 17:54 cool, there was an area I couldn't get to and wondered if there's a temple or altar (town level, do they have them?) 17:54 well, a number of things can cause you to dismount, both in vanilla and slex, e.g. item-stealer steals the saddle 17:54 anything new in slex? 17:54 what's a doll mistress anyway? 17:55 nothing that I can think of, but I'd generally avoid moving over open water (i.e. with no adjacent land) when relying on a steed to fly 17:55 the doll mistress is a playable role 17:55 * Mickmane goes to the list of roles :) 17:55 if she appears as a monster, she'll have random titles depending on her level 17:56 generally, you can meet other player roles as monsters in slex 17:56 your attire charm technique can then tame them :D 17:56 yes! :) 17:57 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:59 damn I need to get some sleep... will probably go to bed soon 17:59 sleep well :) 18:00 thanks! have fun with slex! :) 18:01 I am! Thanks. :) 18:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: sleep-bundle-wing!] 18:08 What's up guys? 18:10 Giant is a pretty great race for a monk 18:18 [hdf-us] [nh4] wii6 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 30694 points, T:3162, killed by a hobbit 18:23 Xaleth_ heya 18:24 Bugpowder yes, so long as you focus more on fighting vs spell casting 18:24 <{Demo}2> hi k2 i have stuff to complain about 2 u but i cant remember it 18:24 <{Demo}2> hope ur doing well 18:24 giants arent too strong in the int/wis department 18:24 tru 18:24 making the early game ez tho 18:24 {Demo}2 thanks 18:25 hows ndnh going 18:25 <{Demo}2> working on getting a prejnh build up 18:25 nice 18:25 same 18:26 <{Demo}2> found what would have been a serious bug 18:26 new version 18:26 <{Demo}2> setting xlog achieve bits for killing the specific uniques with trophies was broken 18:26 ooh yeah that would be bad for junethack 18:26 <{Demo}2> i should probably double check them all now 18:26 <{Demo}2> also found a bad segfault bug 18:27 <{Demo}2> also did a lot of stuff i dont remember 18:27 i want to put out evilhack 0.3.2 before june 18:28 * NCommander returns from b-day dinner 18:28 it'll be inline with 3.6.2 official release + one or more new critters 18:28 not gonna even try to implement the new optional branches until fater june 18:28 *after 18:28 aosdict|1og, what is needed for TNNT? 18:28 * NCommander won't mind getting into variant development 18:29 <{Demo}2> nethack needs more critters 18:29 <{Demo}2> yeah i gave up on symbiote race before jnh 18:29 <{Demo}2> just not a smart idea 18:29 <{Demo}2> cause its not gonna be stable enough 18:29 heh 18:29 just add cyberdemons and pinkies 18:29 <{Demo}2> i think i added dirge but no way to get it yet 18:29 * NCommander would just add the entire monster tomb, implement all the deferred monsters, and add a special level with Charon and Cerberus 18:30 NCommander some extra code help with TNNT would be nice 18:30 K2, do we have a design doc? 18:30 but let me run it by the rest of the team; no single person can just add members whenever they want 18:30 <{Demo}2> the february zapm tournament 18:31 pew pew 18:31 * NCommander should try ZAPM 18:31 NCommander: sort of 18:31 design doc that is 18:31 K2, cool 18:31 maybe i should fix up zapm 18:31 its more a living breathing editable by all in real time thing 18:31 this sounds ideal 18:31 <{Demo}2> k2 how much are you able to remember what you added to evil? 18:31 * NCommander would either add Charon to a level between castle and VotD or between Medusa (or a new Styx branch) 18:31 <{Demo}2> like the last 10 commits worth 18:32 {Demo}2 most if not all i would think 18:32 <{Demo}2> but off the top of your head to you have a good guess at the last 10 commits? 18:32 i havnt had any alcohol in weeks so yeah 18:32 why 18:32 is there a test? 18:33 <{Demo}2> i just cant for shit and im wondering if its normal 18:33 were you blacked out drunk when writing the last 10? 18:33 <{Demo}2> no 18:33 hmm 18:33 meth? 18:33 <{Demo}2> nope 18:34 lack of sleep? 18:34 <{Demo}2> ah yeah could be 18:34 nice, some lad added my github mirror of the zapm sources to the roguebasin article 18:34 <{Demo}2> sleep schedule lately has been wonky 18:34 winny: nice! 18:34 <{Demo}2> and the mix in of evenings with a bit of drinking probably hasnt combined well 18:34 what should i call my zapm fork, i think i call it zapm-winny but that seems a bit silly 18:35 kind of hoping to replace the SVector class wit std::vector 18:35 <{Demo}2> i want zapm fork but its like tnnt 18:35 <{Demo}2> so acheivement tracking for funny shit like killing the guardbot and getting an alien abortion 18:35 * NCommander notes it would be interesting to get into variant development 18:36 yeah what would need to be done? 18:36 <{Demo}2> something xliveloglike 18:36 <{Demo}2> bleh 18:36 <{Demo}2> cloglike 18:36 <{Demo}2> i giveu p 18:36 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Xlogfile like this? 18:36 <{Demo}2> yes 18:36 ^ multiple natural ones 18:36 how do u guys parse these xlogfiles 18:37 <{Demo}2> idk what does tnnt use? 18:37 <{Demo}2> i feel like what it does is less retarded than xlogfile 18:37 i'm sort of curious, because it might inform how i implement this 18:37 tbh i'm open to discord more application-specific serialization formats and just use json 18:37 discard* 18:38 <{Demo}2> if u used json i might make fun of u a little bit but not very much and actually appreciate it deep down 18:38 hehe :) 18:38 <{Demo}2> even though it seems kind of inappropriate 18:38 <{Demo}2> it would be so much more usable 18:38 {Demo}2, he could use XML if you really want unusable 18:39 i mean i could model mine after xlogfile, but i think that would be confusing because zapm and nethack don't really share a lot in common 18:39 <{Demo}2> i mean he could also shove a pencil in his eye 18:39 <{Demo}2> but like why would he 18:39 tbh xml is good if you have a good xml library 18:39 <{Demo}2> xml is deprecated 18:40 you also get an added benefit that most xml libraries support namespaces and schemas, so you can ensure the integrity of your document 18:40 whereas json you are basically at the mercy of some tacked on schema checking which is nonstandard and in some ways just as quirky 18:40 (though i'd probably just use json :) 18:41 actually wait... why don't i just use s-expressions! 18:41 :^) 18:41 heh 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh4] WD21 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 29128 points, T:1564, killed by a large cat 18:44 winny, I'm pretty happy with json serialization libraries that can (de)serialize user-defined types 18:44 it works pretty great 18:45 i just like to give xml a little nod because it can do more than json was ever intended for 18:45 it doesn't usually give you an exportable schema, though 18:45 (not necessarily a good thing, however) 18:46 We could just add support for xlogfile to go into an actual database, or rabbitmq if we want to be all web 2.0y 18:46 <{Demo}2> ewwww 18:47 <{Demo}2> wait thats a thing 18:47 <{Demo}2> check, uh, p-axed or dty-pe's github (dashes to not ping) its on one of theirs and i think hdf uses it? 18:47 <{Demo}2> i know hardfought is running mysql 18:48 {Demo}2, how can that be worse than writing raw structures to disk :P 18:48 gotta luv used armor shops 18:48 so as far as i can tell, there are only really a few things to improve in zapm: use std::vector istead of SVector, add a config file for zapm settintgs, add xlogfile/json logfile support, add a dumplog feature... tbh the last two features could be part of the same log-file format 18:48 <{Demo}2> cause i heard mongodb calling 18:48 oh, and i'd love an do-again key, and travel 18:49 on hdf, every variants' xlogfile info is parsed into a mysql database, but its used for the local scoreboard, and not used by the game itself 18:49 <{Demo}2> yeah want the pid? 18:49 * winny cringes at the thought of mongodb 18:50 hah 18:50 gonna log, bbl 18:50 <{Demo}2> 1340 lol 18:50 <{Demo}2> bye 18:50 * winny runs mongodb for pb - the some software used for ptpb.pw when it was operational... and it uses gridfs or whatever, to get around mongodb's limitation of 16 or 8 MiB document sizes 18:50 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 18:51 tbh i should stop this madness 18:51 it works good but man, it's not a stack i want to fix up 18:52 {Demo}2, gah. mongodb is terrorifying 18:53 it's like finding Demongoroge in a Dl:4 bones file 18:56 <{Demo}2> i want demogeorge to be a thing 18:56 <{Demo}2> its like demogorgon but its his cool brother george 18:58 <{Demo}2> ok so in dnh (and therefore ndnh) dwarves after a certain depth generate with potions of booze 18:58 <{Demo}2> what if there was a thing where if they were peaceful and they had line of sight to throw you a potion for you to catch theyd do it and youd catch it (or roll to catch it based on dex) 18:59 <{Demo}2> wouldnt it be funny if dwarves were just chill dungeon magoos that threw u booze every now and then? 19:00 what trickfilm does "Magoo" remind me of? 19:01 <{Demo}2> magoo just sort of means "thing" 19:01 https://github.com/jtilly/inih thinking this might be ideal for zapm's config file... i don't want to use json there because json doesn't really have comments (and is not resilient to malformed syntax) 19:02 I can almost remember the face of some trickfilm dude though. Dr Magoo or something? 19:02 <{Demo}2> or when referring to beings, "being" 19:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:10 gah 19:10 * NCommander nearly died in his SLEX game 19:10 Got down to HP 8 19:14 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] WD31 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 30469 points, T:3260, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food 19:19 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh4] hWD11 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4587 points, T:200, killed by a fox 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh4] hWD3 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 18142 points, T:1061, killed by a brown mold 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZDD4 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 16095 points, T:1401, killed by a Ms. Sipaliwini, the shopkeeper 20:23 !asc 20:23 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 has ascended 14 times in 269 games (5.20%): nh362:14 (5.41%) 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 545 points, T:2149, killed by a dwarf 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] crimson (Val Dwa Fem Law), 204 points, T:824, killed by a wand 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:22995 20:33 * NCommander can't sleep 20:33 hothraxxa, evilhack has a marker as a prize?! 20:34 yes. imo the most desirable of the possib ilities 20:36 there's a bug here, or maybe it's intended. this came up a couple of days ago 20:36 something took out the door for the magic marker, so when i picked it up the other doors didn't seal. i therefore could also take the cape 20:38 cloak of protection in this case 20:38 cool because i eventually want one 20:47 cool 20:47 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 20:47 It's unfortunate that magic markers are so bloody powerful that its pretty common that all a games wishes are for them 20:48 * NCommander cant sleep 20:48 wishing is the only way to get them in evilhack, except for the one in sokoban (or bones) 20:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:49 vape a high cbd strain 20:55 hothraxxa, doubt it would help. Even Rx sleep meds don't help 20:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:00 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:02 you never know. i run a forum that deals with this sort of stuff. it works for a lot of people 21:02 [hdf-us] [nh4] ZD12 (yann) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 33303 points, T:4384, killed by a giant spider 21:03 can't hurt to try. don't smoke it, vape it at high temp 21:09 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 21:15 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:31031 21:16 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 21:26 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7374 21:28 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:16449 21:33 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:31998 21:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Mon Hlf Mal Cha), 6455 points, T:2166, quit 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16776 21:38 spellcasting so painful w/In:8 8^P 21:41 what's 8^P? 21:41 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 21:43 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:47 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 21:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 21:48 -!- rld has quit [*.net *.split] 21:48 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [*.net *.split] 21:48 -!- Mandevil has quit [*.net *.split] 21:48 -!- beetcoin_ has quit [*.net *.split] 21:48 -!- aosdict|1og has quit [*.net *.split] 21:58 eraserhead97, what's 8^P? 22:01 a sideways happy face? 22:01 face with tongue sticking out 22:02 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:03 In a world where characters have meanings, smileys might not always be obvious. :) 22:10 yeah, could be a ghost, a trap, and then a pudding 22:10 or meaningn 8 power 22:10 it's what I thought 22:10 rofl ^^ 22:11 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 22:12 c's in soko and no lizard corpse - time to take a break 22:12 Oh, better do that. :) 22:13 going for a jog before it gets dark - bb a little later ^^ 22:13 see you :) 22:13 * Mickmane looks at clock, 4am. "Before it gets dark!?" :)) 22:44 I'M off to bed, my eyes are falling shut. 22:45 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 22:45 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 22:45 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #hardfought 22:45 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 22:45 -!- beetcoin_ has joined #hardfought 22:45 -!- aosdict|1og has joined #hardfought 22:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vv rld aosdict|1og] by card.freenode.net 23:19 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 23:32 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased ring of slow digestion", on T:7286 23:33 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) stole 266 zorkmids of merchandise from the jewelers of Imbyze on T:9731 23:43 note to self: don't price id unbought loot while suffering from teleportitis :( 23:44 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 16234 points, T:10512, killed by a Green-elf, while fainted from lack of food 23:49 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 359 points, T:943, killed by a giant spider 23:51 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 268 points, T:317, killed by a bolt of lightning 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12642 23:57 Can't you price-ID it without picking it up?