00:01 ok bouquet try your splice game 00:01 bouquet, ah point 00:02 thanks K2 it's back. I'm trying to get out of ludios which I think is the only place it crashes. 00:02 ok 00:04 made it finally! Hopefully it won't crash any more. 00:04 NCommander: have you tried vampire wizard yet? 00:04 bouquet, nope 00:04 I think it's my favorite combo. 00:05 once you have a =SD and the Eye it's like cutting through demons with dual grayswandir/silver saber. 00:05 but with range! 00:07 bouquet, yeah, I'm right now debating how to continue this game. Backtracking to Minetown means I'm seriously risking death by starvation 00:11 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 00:11 when I find myself in that situation I tend to go lower in hopes of more corpses to eat. 00:12 !tell Bugpowder your evilhack game crash was caused from a bones level containing a monster riding another monster as a steed. we're aware of this bug, looking to fix. try to avoid that level if you can 00:12 Will do, K2! 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:16082 00:14 omg - finally got of blessed +1 mace - Priest is a PITA 00:15 :) 00:23 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:26 heya Bugpowder 00:26 Vorpal Blade vs singles, conflict vs mobs, but still no reflection, no MR, no luckstone - orcish mines still super risky from fire+other wands - going deep entails polyrisk (no PC) 00:26 yo 00:26 Bugpowder: Message from K2 at 2019-05-06 23:54 EDT: evilhack game recovered 00:26 Bugpowder: Message from K2 at 2019-05-07 00:12 EDT: your evilhack game crash was caused from a bones level containing a monster riding another monster as a steed. we're aware of this bug, looking to fix. try to avoid that level if you can 00:26 YESSSS 00:27 I don’t know how to avoid 00:27 I need to get through it 00:27 hmmm 00:27 i'm just afraid it'll crash agin if you enter that level again 00:27 yeah 00:27 I think thats probably oracle 00:27 hmmm 00:27 maybe levelport somehow 00:28 could try again while i'm here 00:28 after tonight i'm offline again for 2 weeks ;) 00:29 shyt 00:29 ok let me try 00:30 Tangles is around though, he can recover games. just have to be pateient is all, he's in a different timezone 00:30 this bug you experienced Bugpowder i think this is the last significant bug with evilhack 00:30 lol 00:30 we will see 00:31 We need to clone K2 and Tangles for better recover control 00:31 Interesting.. my +5 arrows I shot are no longer on the ground in this save 00:31 missing 27 arrows 00:31 maybe a monster picked them up? 00:31 maybe? 00:31 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 00:32 ^ bug fixes 00:32 THey were there on the ground when I started from this save before… odd 00:32 * NCommander remains cold :( 00:32 hmm 00:33 the 1400 ish gold pieces on the ground missing too 00:33 gonna try digging 00:34 survived 00:34 sweet 00:34 Bugpowder, if the game becomes unrecoverable, next game, set !bones 00:34 the crash is recoverable 00:34 but yeah !bones until we get that bug sorted 00:34 thanks for the help… I gues I’ll have to make some more arrows 00:34 K2, if you can send me the bones file that causes the crash, I'll take a crack at fixing it 00:34 i cant 00:35 once the bones is loaded, its gone 00:35 but, here's the coredump 00:35 https://termbin.com/qdif 00:36 Tangles is aware of it, and I sent this to antigulp also as it might happen in splicehack also 00:36 nice… yeah this doesn’t seem to be a bones level 00:36 maybe it took my arrows with it into the aether 00:36 K2, so the believed cause of the crash is a monster riding? 00:36 yeah 00:37 bones level loads and there's a monster riding another monster in that bones level 00:37 thats the assumption 00:38 i need to go into wizmode and try to reproduce, but that will have to wait until i'm back home 00:38 K2, I'm compiling evilhack locally now 00:39 cool 00:39 !who 00:39 K2: [hdf-us] Bugpowder [evil] eraserhead97 [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 00:39 * NCommander currently can't decide what to do with his vampire 00:40 K2: oh wow, you can haz internets at camp? (or whereever...) 00:40 hmmm 00:40 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status 00:40 hrm 00:40 I think I don’t have an Oracle level now? 00:40 really? 00:40 will need to explore a little more 00:42 K2: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltermlib 00:42 paxed: we've been prepping for the big 'event' for the last 8-9 days, cellphone use is still allowed. i can use my cell as a hotspot and connect a laptop to it 00:42 What dependency am I missing 00:42 ok signing off… will investigate more tomorrow. Thanks for the restore. 00:42 K2: don't let us know if you're going to shoot any nukes. 00:43 hah no its not like that 00:43 tomorrow it all kicks off so comms blackout 00:44 been so busy last several days, slowed down tonight so took opportunity to hop on 00:44 Bugpowder; any time 00:45 NCommander: ltermlib ? 00:45 K2, the makefiles have that hardcoded, I changed it to curses 00:45 I think it might be trying to build tiles mode :( 00:45 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 00:46 it can make tiles no problem, that doesnt affect tty 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:17502 00:47 you will need curses... libcurses5dev or some such, i cant remember the dependency offhand 00:48 K2, oh, I used the unix hints file 00:48 I'm an idiot 00:48 :P 00:49 !tell bhaak i'd like to request EvilHack to be included for junethack this year please 00:49 I'm on it, K2. 00:49 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:57 K2 Suddenly, the dungeon collapses. 00:57 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 00:57 0x00005555557c6179 in obj_is_local (obj=0x84) at timeout.c:2241 00:57 2241 switch (obj->where) { 00:57 K2, reproduced 00:58 nice 00:58 what did you do exactly to reproduce 00:59 K2, teleported to L4, created a goblin outride 00:59 DIed, left bones 00:59 Loaded bones, crashed 00:59 K2: have there been more reports of the status line not updating? 00:59 paxed: a few 00:59 #6 0x0000555555641b52 in panic (str=0x555555882889 "Cannot find monster steed.") at end.c:630 00:59 NCommander: a goblin or a goblin outrider? or goblin-captain? 00:59 goblin outrider 01:00 K2: did any of the reporters give more info? 01:00 ok 01:00 paxed: no unfortunately 01:00 the report i sent was the most detailed 01:00 hm 01:00 I spoke to Tangles about it briefly 01:01 i may have fat fingered something during a merge a couple weeks ago 01:01 K2, I think I know what the problem is 01:01 K2: oh, so it would be hf specific problem? 01:01 paxed: so the problem would only exist with 362-hdf and evilhack 01:01 yeah 01:01 probbably 01:02 before i left i tried to reproduce on vanilla and couldnt 01:02 NCommander: oh yeah? what do you think the issue is? 01:03 K2: Monster steed IDs are either not relinking or aren't being saved in the first place, I compared the load code to the save code and there's no reference to steed data being saved 01:03 oh snap 01:03 * NCommander is looking at how to fix this now 01:04 awesome 01:04 * NCommander is stupidly good at debugging 01:04 K2, odds are all bones files with steeds are corrupted so when it's fixed, nuking the bones files is probably a good idea 01:04 agreed 01:04 there are only a handful so no huge loss 01:05 * NCommander does a few more tests 01:05 Let me see if saving with an outrider on the level also crashs 01:06 Ok, it explicately happens with bones only 01:06 so it's something to do with the bones generation 01:08 K2: is the 362-hdf repo where? 01:09 oh, found 01:09 it's NHTangles' repo 01:10 yup, hardfought branch 01:10 https://github.com/NHTangles/NetHack36/tree/hardfought 01:11 hrm 01:11 two possibilities 01:11 either it's due to the outrider rumming your corpse 01:11 i'll do a vanilla merge right before junethack 01:11 rumming? 01:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:19 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:21 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:22 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:27 K2, can't spell, going through your corpse looking for items. The bones code is pretty dense so I'm checking what does and doesnt trigger it 01:27 -!- Glasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:28 ah ok 01:28 thanks NCommander 01:28 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:30 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:31 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:10172 01:39 Ok, so bones files save monsters as objs 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:10732 01:40 partially 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 31964 points, T:10743, killed by a priestess of Mitra 01:41 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:42 i am reconfiguring my kit 01:42 we have to wear these gps packs on the back 01:44 they suck 01:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:00 * NCommander has ruled out a few causes of the crash 02:05 nice 02:07 I'm just not entirely sure what the difference is between a level that's loaded from bones vs. a save 02:11 lol pline("Maybe you should find a designated driver."); 02:13 Interesting wrinkle about save restores from my game. I think everything I had picked up from the floor after last save point got lost in the restore. Cause there was still plenty of crappy loot and corpses on the ground post restore, just not any of the stuff I had harvested before going down to the next level where the bones crash occurred. 02:19 weird 02:20 Ok, so monster ride ID does appear to get saved correctly 02:21 I wonder if the steed is getting mongone'd 02:22 so there are a bunch of edge cases I can see that can cause this 02:22 if the monster steed is greedy, the game can delete it, although taht shouldn't be the case 02:30 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 02:31 pretty much every crash involves a goblin outrider or gobln captain 02:31 early-ish bones 02:31 wont see nazgul until much later 02:31 (they ride fell beasts) 02:36 K2, yeah, I'm somewhat scratching my head at why this is failing 02:37 K2, I may need to add debug code to see if all the monsters are being serialized and loaded 02:37 K2, the riding structure *is* saved and I can't find any code that changes m_id 02:38 huh 02:39 there are comments that suggest NetHack used to zero out m_id 02:39 so ... 02:39 And it's a bloody linked list so it's a real pain to go through it with gdb 02:41 define nhdebug_print_monlist 02:41 set $tmp_mon = level.monlist 02:41 while ($tmp_mon) 02:41 set $mon_name = (*($tmp_mon->data))->mname 02:41 printf "%s: (%i,%i)\n", $mon_name, $tmp_mon->mx, $tmp_mon->my 02:41 set $tmp_mon = $tmp_mon->nmon 02:41 end 02:41 end 02:42 paxed, my hero 02:42 i guess i should put all my gdb scripts up on github ... 02:43 (gdb) nhdebug_print_monlist 02:43 ghost: (10,5) 02:43 wolf: (10,4) 02:43 goblin outrider: (10,4) 02:43 cave spider: (43,17) 02:43 newt: (16,8) 02:43 iguana: (35,13) 02:43 grid bug: (59,10) 02:43 Ok, so it IS saved 02:44 but not with the right ID number 02:45 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:45 the hacky thing would to look for a monst at the same x/y coords 02:45 and link to that 02:45 But I want to figure out the renumbering 02:47 monster ids have to change somewhere, cause there could be a collision between a pet and stuff on a bones file 02:47 But where 02:48 OH 02:48 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:52 if (ghostly) { 02:52 unsigned nid = context.ident++; 02:52 add_id_mapping(mtmp->m_id, nid); 02:52 mtmp->m_id = nid; 02:52 } 02:52 There we go 02:54 ok this should be straight forward to fix now 02:54 awesome 02:54 yeah this is the stuff thats way above my skill level 02:55 working on evilhack the last several months, i may have graduated from non-programmer to fledgling ultra-beginner programmer (third class) 03:01 K2, I'm writing the fix now 03:06 K2, You backhand the goblin outrider! The wolf bites! The goblin outrider punches you! 03:06 IT WORKS 03:06 There is a grave here. Something is engraved here on the headstone. You read: "wizard, killed by a death ray".--More-- 03:06 ANd the bones worked properly 03:07 K2, it should work with existing bones but probably better just to nuke them 03:08 K2, pull request going up 03:09 K2, https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/3 03:10 K2, panic recovery works because it nukes monsters on the level and then repops 03:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18474 03:14 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:15 wooo thanks! 03:15 give me a few min, will apply fix 03:15 finishing up running some cat5e and a switch 03:19 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:20 K2, I'm going to go grab some food, The fix is pretty simple, I tested save/load with a riding unit on the level, and bones with a rider, but do your own testing :) 03:20 K2, anything else that needs fixing? 03:21 just merged 03:21 hmm... i need to think. i think this was the last glaring nasty bug 03:22 thanks NCommander 03:23 Glad to help 03:23 K2, if you and Tangles ever need a fill in sysop while you're on VAC, Im always willing to step in :) 03:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:24 good to know ;) 03:26 gonna nuke the bones files first before compiling 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "+3 blessed greased fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:18942 03:28 well that was a nice surprise - the wand inside dgoddard's cursed BoH happened to be wishing... ...with at least one charge 03:29 Question is, do you wish for a wand of cancellation to totally not blow up the bag with, or scrolls of charging and hope it isn't already recharged? 03:30 the answer is obvious 03:30 or can you pick up the bag? 03:30 wish for a blessed figurine of a woodchuck named Carl 03:30 what's more "my style" is the carry that second BoH with me and then blow myself up when I do a "negative select" by selecting all to put into the good BoH and forget to take off the 2nd one... 03:31 ...to avoid that, I leave the 2nd one on the floor 03:32 what was a bit of a waste was Stormbringer showed up in his bonez (runed broadsword useless for Priest) - which brings up arti's to 2 - prolly can't get Eye or Orb of Weight now... 03:33 I'd probably try it anyway, maybe not with that particular wand though 03:34 EvilHack updated (all servers) 03:34 ^ fix crashing on bones level with monster steeds 03:34 ^^ thanks NCommander for the fix 03:38 K2, awesome. If we get another crash, let me know, + the bones file if its still around 03:45 very strange - when I do a \ a to list all the discovered arti's it shows Vorpal Blade (gift) but doesn't show Stormbringer (came from bonez) 03:47 eraserhead97, did you formal ID Stormy? 03:48 because you haven't discovered Stormbringer, but only 'a runesword named Stormbringer'? 03:48 Though I don't think gifts are formally identified either. 03:49 ah... ...thx for the clarification - I was thinking for wishing purposes, 2 are out - but Stormbringer hasn't been verified yet - ty 03:49 But you know for sure that Stormbringer exists 03:49 so I need to pay attention and not just look at that list 03:49 Mm 03:50 NCommander i prob wont be online the next time ppl play evilhack 03:51 will be off for another 2 weeks here very soon 03:51 i nukedall the bones files across all three servers (evilhack) 03:52 K2, I probably should write a patch for 3.6.x variants to have autorecover 03:53 * NCommander just wishes the NH source code was more ANSI 03:53 theres a blurb in the sysconf file about recover 03:54 eludes to auto recover but i dont think its fully functional 03:54 i honestly dont know, havent ever tested it 03:54 I dunno if 343 has an autorecover patch. NH4 variants rewrote the entire save system to be somewhat less brain damaged 03:55 343 nao/hdf does not 04:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:21177 04:10 [hdf-us] [un] NCommander (Bar Vam Mal Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:12445 04:10 That was slightly risky 04:24 ARGH 04:24 [hdf-us] [un] NCommander (Bar Vam Mal Cha), 64277 points, T:12957, killed by a deep orc, while sleeping 04:25 sleep trap? 04:25 Orc with the wand of sleep who used it repeatively 04:25 damn 04:25 Wasn't a lot I could do, Vamp's really suck for getting intristics 04:26 I almost just died at T:21410 for reading a level 3 spellbook of remove curse at Xp:13 - In:13 too stoopid 04:27 !role 04:27 NCommander: splicehack dragonmaster 04:31 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:31 -!- noty_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:33 Dragonmaster could be interesting 04:44 * NCommander mulls on rolling another character 04:46 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:51 * NCommander hugtackles LarienTelrunya 04:51 hi NCommander! my internet is finally working again :P got moved to a different office and of course the internet got deleted in the process 04:52 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 04:54 but our computer system specialist helped me get it to run again :) he's a great guy, last year I actually got him to wear my blue velvet peep-toe high heels once ♥ 04:54 he was really good at walking in them too! 04:55 oh, another GNTM watcher 04:55 bhaak: Message from K2 at 2019-05-07 00:49 EDT: i'd like to request EvilHack to be included for junethack this year please 04:55 but ... how small are his feet or how big are yours that they fit him? 04:56 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:56 bhaak: the heels were european size 40; his feet are smaller than mine ;) 04:57 cute 04:59 !who 04:59 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] NCommander [spl] | [hdf-eu] winsalot [dnh] elenmirie [evil] Raisse [nh362] CardGirlGamer [spl] | [hdf-au] WonkoTheSane [nh362] 04:59 LarienTelrunya, nice. I got evilhack's bones crash fixed 04:59 NCommander: yay! can you also get slex's savegame error fixed? :D 05:00 WHat's the save game error and how do I repro? 05:00 heh, it happened occasionally when you're about to leave bones, but I only saw it when playing locally on windows 05:00 NCommander: nice D pet! 05:01 and I made a kludge fix, but there's no way to know if it works because if I play 200 games and never have the crash happen, it doesn't mean that it can't crash anymore :P 05:01 now I've uncursed the helm to turn lawful again because it was an accident in a shop 05:01 such crashes that only happen rarely are the worst, because if you can't reliably reproduce them then how do you know whether they're fixed? 05:02 eraserhead97, it's how Dragonmaster's start, the big downside is I can't wear any DSM 05:02 so I'll be looking for elven mitrial armor or possible crystal plate mail 05:02 NCommander: lol - that's hilarious 05:02 eraserhead97, I can also tame dragons as though they were domestic dogs 05:02 by throwing them food? 05:02 yup 05:02 nice 05:03 then castle be thy zoo 05:03 Basically 05:03 Also means part of my ascension kit is decided 05:03 who had that insane idea that a DRAGONmaster, of all things, can't wear DRAGON scale mail??? 05:03 Shield of Reflection and Cloak of MR 05:03 dragonmaster more like dragonfailure :P 05:03 LarienTelrunya, basically you're a dragon keeper, and the idea of wearing dragon anything is revolting 05:03 he's a dragonmaster, not a dragonslayer 05:04 eraserhead97, the dragon also starts saddled, although I start unskilled in riding 05:04 Which sucks 05:04 shouldn't the other dragons regard him as a master if, and only if, he looks like one? :P 05:04 mountable dragons should be in vanilla! 05:04 anyway if I ever get around to adding the dragonmaster role to slex, it will so definitely be able to wear DSM of course 05:04 eraserhead97, I thought they were 05:06 afaik, I don't think so - lemme check wiki 05:07 you're right! I was thinking of purple worms (as in Dune) 05:07 I also have no idea what dragon blizz does as a technique 05:07 Pretty sure you can ride dragons in vanilla 05:08 yes, according to the wiki, you can (my mistake) - I was thinking of purple worms 05:08 Oh it drastically speeds up tame dragons on the level 05:11 Dragons are painfully slow :( 05:11 need a /oSM 05:13 I think my dragon is stuck 05:14 is he eating? 05:14 Yeah, constantly 05:14 I have no idea what 05:15 grrr 05:15 "Rex starves." 05:15 ... 05:15 WTF 05:15 This seems bugged 05:15 *sigh* 05:16 yeah after that I have no desire to play splice 05:16 That's just unfair 05:16 How do you know he was eating? 05:16 * LarienTelrunya promises to eventually make a slex dragonmaster role and it'll be great and won't have bugs :) 05:17 Andrio, "Rex is eating noisely" 05:17 I chatted withhim 05:17 mm 05:17 Was he eating a tainted corpse? 05:17 and the game said he was eating when I was riding and won't go up/down stairs 05:17 That's silly. 05:17 Pets should be smart enough not to eat them, and I don't think they get sickness 05:17 Well, that's vanilla behavior 05:17 But still 05:17 I'm really kinda ticked off about it 05:18 !role 05:18 NCommander: tnnt samurai 05:18 nope 05:18 !role 05:18 NCommander: notdnethack tourist 05:18 That sounds painful 05:18 NCommander: IIRC you still have an ongoing slex game, or did that one die? if you're still alive: I'd want to watch you play that *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 05:19 !role slex 05:19 NCommander: shapeshifter 05:19 Eh 05:19 !role slex 05:19 NCommander: nuclear physicist 05:19 um 05:19 that's a real role?!? 05:20 he can summon Schrodinger's Cat? 05:20 of course that's a real role :D nuclear physicists have contamination resistance and the decontamination technique 05:21 they should be allowed to split a rock for explosive effect... 05:21 I couldn't quite figure out containmentation when I last tried SLEX 05:22 NCommander: did you ever encounter a weeping angel in dnethack? slex contamination works similar to that ;) 05:22 no, but I know Doctor Who 05:22 * NCommander shivers 05:22 Weeping Angels scare the **** out of me 05:23 Maybe try a slex valk 05:23 and probably the angel race because then she can fly? :) 05:24 LarienTelrunya, possibly. the Orb of Fate is an amazing quest artifact 05:24 That or priest 05:25 Given altars can disappear when you BUC test 05:25 Although Priests have a painful starting game in general 05:25 there's the veela race, which gives BUC knowledge (like priests) independent of your role, at the cost of having to follow the knight's code of conduct ;) 05:26 Hrm 05:26 That's actually not bad 05:26 I might do Valk Veela 05:26 !rng angel veela 05:26 NCommander: angel 05:26 The RNG has spoken 05:26 * LarienTelrunya watches :) 05:31 oh right, I need the slex source code to help interpet messages 05:31 that wand is solar beam, a very powerful attack wand 05:34 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Val Ang Fem Law), 337 points, T:470, killed by a monster (roditaur) 05:34 That was quick 05:34 rip :( 05:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:23929 05:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23936 05:39 NCommander: pentagrams are similar to thrones, but with a different set of effects; they can e.g. unlock skills or give you artifacts. You can use them via #invoke. 05:41 LarienTelrunya, I don't usually touch thrones until have a luckstone and maxed out luck 05:41 ah I see 05:42 Max luck isn't much better than 1 luck for the purposes of a throne 05:43 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 05:44 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 05:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:46 Something is engraved here on the headstone. You read: "When you zap a wand of death, make sure you're pointing it the right way.". 05:46 I actually did that 05:47 that reminds me of my slex splat where I was on the plane of earth, wanted to cast finger of death at rodney, accidentally hit spacebar, and the last spell I had cast had been extra healing. Guess what the direction was. 06:13 LarienTelrunya, at rodney :) 06:13 NCommander: sadly not, otherwise that char might have ascended 06:14 LarienTelrunya, ouch 06:14 yeah that death was maddening, especially because it was due to a ****ing interface screw! 06:14 LarienTelrunya, well first mielstone, made it to the mall 06:14 yay! hopefully there'll be an armor store with services! 06:15 You feel healthy. - yay 06:15 LarienTelrunya, that's one of the things I do like about NH4, the interfae is a lot cleaner 06:15 yaaaaaaaaaaaaay :) winning at resistance roulette is much harder in slex than in vanilla, and therefore it always feels like a huge achievement to finally get poison res! 06:15 yeah I ascended nh4 a couple of times too 06:19 btw, in slex you can apply up to 3 layers of grease to an item; very useful to do that to a helm for mind flayer protection :) 06:20 Pretty lame mall 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wii4 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 26707 points, T:3458, killed by a hill orc 06:20 Just a wand and ring shop. No pet to steal with 06:20 Having reflection helps a lot though 06:27 LarienTelrunya, given I have a bite attack, a cockatrice is an instadeath, isn't it 06:27 NCommander: it shouldn't 06:27 well actually, it's not an instadeath in slex anyway, because you always have 7 turns to save yourself, but it shouldn't even turn you to stone 06:27 I'll test in wizmode 06:28 yep, attacking a cockatrice in melee is safe as long as you're wielding a weapon 06:28 LarienTelrunya, also, how do the body armor and sprituality skills work. 06:28 LarienTelrunya, even though I'm still biting? or does it turn off for things that would instakill 06:28 body armor gives you extra AC based on # of points you put in the skill and # of armor pieces you're wearing 06:28 so worth advancing then 06:28 yeah, slashem actually made it so that you don't use touching attacks if you would be turned to stone 06:29 no idea why vanilla won't implement that, because it's really like it should always have been :P 06:29 ah frig, a gray rock ended up in my inventory 06:29 DOn't think its lodestone 06:30 damn, that's the disadvantage of the veela, breaking the knight conduct gives random bad effects 06:30 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30 it definitely is a loadstone, so you can #name it that 06:30 Ah 06:30 but apparently your carry cap is so high that you're still unburdened :D 06:31 anyway the spirituality skill speeds up your prayer timeout so you can pray more often, and also makes magic cancellation more likely to work, so it's also rather useful because at unskilled, MC3 is only 75% protection 06:33 LarienTelrunya, cool, also, is it normal for sokoban to be unmapped? 06:33 NCommander: no, but it can happen occasionally; obviously did so here 06:33 frell 06:33 * NCommander already dislikes soko to begin with 06:33 IIRC this is a level from nethack fourk 06:34 argh, but for some weird reason jonadab didn't include a solution for it on his sokoban page!!! why not? 06:35 anyway, http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/nethack-stuff/spoilers-fourk/sokoban/nonfourk-levels.html "Jumpin' All Around" 06:35 that's the level you're on 06:37 you can try to squeeze past the boulder; if you drop everything but the loadstone, you might just unburden yourself enough to be able to squeeze with slex's changed rules 06:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZD3 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 26948 points, T:1733, killed by a kitten 06:42 the leek wand is most probably not polymorph; it eroded the engraving, instead of making it into a different one, which means it's probably a wand of draining 06:44 NCommander: pets eating is broken in splicehck, code ported over from grunthack. evilhack had the same issue until i omoitted the offending section of code 06:45 wow there is a very fleecy K2! ♥ hi K2! are you just here for a moment, or back for real? 06:46 LarienTelrunya, I broke a bolder, the penality is probably pretty bad, but did you really have to length Soko? 06:46 NCommander: well I added a bunch of soko levels from other variants to have more variety 06:47 also you're on the final soko level now 06:47 one of the three engraving-highlighted tiles will have a prize 06:47 LarienTelrunya just back for a few hours , wont be back for 2 weeks after i log in a bit 06:47 NCommander - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/38c78ea13eb2c75f15b0b8495f87cc62c9db347a 06:48 LarienTelrunya, ah, I got confused by Soko:4 06:48 Thought I had more levels to go up 06:48 K2: ah I see, so you'll be back in time for junethack :) 06:48 yup 06:48 i see bhaak got my message 06:48 * K2 pokes bhaak 06:49 * NCommander is taking a quick break before continuning 06:49 I'm feeling oddly ... confident with how things are going, which means I'll just die hilariously 06:50 heh :D that white room is probably a "prison chamber" special room: it'll be filled with ogres and a prisoner on the altar 06:50 unlike castle of the winds, the prisoner won't die though if you take too long to rescue him :D 06:50 What's the prisoner do? 06:50 he's initially hostile, but if you manage to step next to him without disturbing him earlier, he'll turn peaceful and give you a small alignment boost 06:51 LarienTelrunya, so to actually ascend in SLEX, I need to get 2 of the three alignment keys (and if I skip one, the monster levelports somewhere so I can't avoid it), I need to inbue the bell and amulet 06:51 and the altar is initially to Moloch but you can use the ogre corpses to convert it 06:51 right? 06:51 Well it seems all altars in SLEX are to Moloch 06:51 NCommander: you don't really need the alignment keys, but they make it easier to get to Vlad. You do however need to imbue the bell and amulet, yeah. 06:54 K2: not so fast. it's not June for almost a month now 06:55 so i need to ask on may 31st then 06:57 ugh 06:57 monster behind a bolder 06:58 you should have picked up one of those tons of bows or crossbows with ammo back then, so you'd be able to shoot the monster to death :D 06:58 Yeah, I'm going to have to backtrack 06:58 And I found a wand of punishment 06:58 huh, punished with a heavy glass ball? if you pick it up and throw it, it should shatter and be removed :) 06:58 -_-; 06:59 LarienTelrunya, that worked. 06:59 yay! 06:59 Time to go backtrack and get a bow and arrows 06:59 and maybe loose the lodestone 06:59 also, I guess you're aware of that: don't just drop the wand of punishment somewhere, because monsters may use it against you 07:00 LarienTelrunya, anything special I need to know about fountain dipping beyond the usual NH evil? 07:00 NCommander: yeah you can summon a demon lord if you're unlucky, you only have 1 in 50 chance of excalibur because you're not a knight, and the long sword can rust away and be destroyed unless it's rustproof. 07:01 oh and if you can, you should get a container; due to the loadstone, boxes may actually burden you right now, but if you can get rid of the stone, boxes are lightweight enough to work as portable containers (unlike vanilla) 07:02 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 07:02 LarienTelrunya, I was thinking to dip to decurse the lodestone 07:02 THat's my usual stragety 07:02 NCommander: ah, well there's a few more bad effects that could happen but the usual chance of uncursing the stone (4 in 30) is still there :) 07:02 oh, using the nymph method? that works too :D 07:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:03 drop everything and then wake the nymph 07:03 oh damn... you're a veela, so you have a stealing attack too 07:03 well then, nymphs have a hard time stealing anything from you; might require many tries 07:04 problem solved 07:04 great! 07:05 now you should be able to carry a box/chest and a couple ranged weapons without being burdened :) 07:07 LarienTelrunya, I can't remember if lances can pound through a boulder 07:08 NCommander: sadly not, lances and polearms have to see the target square in order to hit :( 07:08 but if you pack a bow/crossbow and 50 or so ammos, it'll hopefully be enough to kill that fucker behind the boulder 07:10 Wooden container is 750 stone 07:10 That's not exactly light 07:10 * NCommander can carry it unburdened but still 07:10 yeah but you were able to carry a 1200-weight loadstone without being burdened :D 07:10 valkyries are pretty strong after all 07:11 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:11 in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you never saw the word "Burdened" on your slex status line ;) 07:11 Weights are vasty different in SELX 07:11 *SLEX 07:13 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wizzy3 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 30456 points, T:2622, killed by a rothe 07:14 and I guess you're not sad that the first sokoban level placed the stairs in a place where you don't need to fill all the holes to get to it :D 07:16 uncursed disintegration trove 07:16 LarienTelrunya, I'm not 07:16 eating that has a minuscule chance of giving you disintegration resistance 07:16 ah 07:17 be sure to re-equip the shield ;) 07:17 also what's your spellbook strategy? i.e. when do you read them? 07:19 the @ on this lava level is probably Duri the Blacksmith, who you can #chat to for some special services 07:20 You see here a cursed figurine of a white unicorn {0}. 07:20 ... that is actually somewhat useful 07:21 Valkyrie, all your powers will be lost... 07:21 (remember that you have scrolls of healing and the invoke deity technique) 07:22 arrrrrrgh rip :( 07:22 Yeah, I stashed them 07:22 oops 07:22 man... it was going so well :( 07:22 Still not bad for my second serious slex game 07:23 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Val Vee Fem Law), 20744 points, T:5516, killed by a monster (fire ant), while helplessly knocked out 07:23 LarienTelrunya, I need to set the option that makes HP colors work 07:23 I didn't notice it getting that low 07:23 yeah you can copy it from my rcfile: https://em.slashem.me/userdata/Bluescreen/slex/Bluescreen.slexrc 07:24 * NCommander just copies the whole file 07:24 :D 07:25 well you'll want to change the "# junethack AmyBSOD" to NCommander before the tournament starts 07:25 yeah 07:25 just did 07:25 At least I know what I did to screw up 07:25 * NCommander needs to read your LP for more tips 07:26 heh, I hope I can find the time to start a new slex run for the LP soon 07:32 In3 07:32 wow 07:32 I jsut realized how low that is 07:32 yeah, lowest possible value 07:32 Holy shop 07:32 if you buy your first big consultation from the oracle, you get +1 INT and WIS 07:32 whooooooa 07:32 Good to know 07:32 so many potions! 07:33 I don't thik I've ever seen one that big 07:33 There's bound to be holy and unholy water in there 07:33 as soon as I have some cash or a good way to steal I'll be back 07:34 heh, I once had a shop that was bigger and additionally had a second shop inside, but that was bigslex: https://abload.de/img/twoshopsnpd36.png 07:34 that was after I had picked up all the books in the western half of the shop too 07:40 * NCommander grumbles 07:40 Yet another lodestone 07:41 This one got thrown into my inventory 07:41 oh damn, is that a room with lots of gray stones? 07:41 farlook showed stones 07:41 well, monsters don't throw loadstones into your inventory; there are however about 250 different kinds of "nastystones" that autocurse and will mimic nasty trap effects while in your inventory. 07:42 * NCommander burns a standard id 07:42 cursed +0 permacurse stone. 07:42 * NCommander needs team n 07:42 the description should say what it does 07:42 but it's pretty bad :D 07:43 also if you use the nymph method, the stone will then still be somewhere; monsters with weapon attacks can pick it up and throw it right back into your inventory 07:43 Then fountain method and chuck it into a container 07:43 yeah that would work 07:44 or if you use the nymph method, dig a pit on the square where it dropped and fill it with a boulder :D 07:44 or theoretically if it drops near lava, kick it into the lava 07:45 that said, it could have been worse. this gray stone only affects you if you try to uncurse your stuff, whereas a certain other gray stone would cause all your items to gradually curse themselves when it's in your inventory! 07:48 This regular blob corpse tastes terrible! You finish eating the regular blob corpse. You feel rock solid. 07:48 rock solid? 07:49 stone resistance O_O; 07:49 didn't know that was possible 07:49 petrification resistance; in 99% of all cases it's temporary, but very rarely you hit the 1% chance to have it permanently 07:51 wow, that bookstore 07:51 that is a large room with a river through it? 07:52 yes :) 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] WIZ1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 23548 points, T:1732, killed by a water moccasin 07:53 sorry bhaak didnt see this - https://github.com/junethack/Junethack/issues/53 07:54 Z - a c-uncursed bag of holding {5}. 07:54 w00t w00t 07:54 make sure to not put a wand of cancellation inside ;) 07:54 (if you do, the contents get scattered instead of destroyed, but it's still annoying) 07:54 ugh, my stone became heavily cursed 07:55 I'm guessing it gets worse over time 07:55 bhaak - with so many variants now, any plans to do something like 'ascended all nh4 based/3.4.3 based/3.6.x based variants' trophies? 07:56 K2: not yet. I have to think about that 07:57 K2: what's going to happen is do away with the cross-variant trophies in current form. 07:57 replaced with something like 'killed medusa in [n] variants' for n in 1,2,3,4,... 07:57 aahh 07:58 K2: i had an evilhack crash while digging down, just said 'Oops' and the game was destroyed 07:58 well fuk 07:58 should i maybe make bug reports directly to the github issue tracker? 07:58 digging down where? 07:58 what were the conditions? 07:58 i saw a very similar report against vanilla 07:59 was it in a shopkeepers doorway? 07:59 i was a centaur and i digged down with... a digging wand maybe? nothing seemed strange 07:59 no 07:59 lemme check the ttyrec 07:59 yeah please add to issue tracker on github 07:59 kk 08:00 maybe there was a 5stenno.e panic save created? could be worth a shot to check for that 08:00 ... human counts for Veela 08:01 but aggravate monsters is actually useful for Knights 08:02 stenno when did this happen 08:03 yesterday, 21:46 my time 08:03 which is.. 08:03 UTC+2 08:03 so 19:46 UTC 08:04 there is a stacktrace in the ttyrec it seems, sec 08:04 i will just write up an issue 08:06 i have the coredump 08:06 https://termbin.com/mide8 08:06 NCommander ^ 08:07 he fixed that just a few hours ago 08:07 maybe because your game was started before the fix was applied, you're still affected? 08:07 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/issues/4 08:07 looks like you digged down into a bones level with a monster riding another monster 08:07 oof 08:07 fyi game recovered 08:08 mine? 08:08 but yeah we just fixed that a few hrs ago 08:08 yes 08:08 oh wait 08:08 yeah so this happened to you yesterday 08:08 but just now being told now 08:08 correct 08:08 yes 08:09 ok so game recovered 08:09 should be good to go 08:09 you weren't around :D 08:09 thanks o7 08:09 i know :/ 08:09 i'll have to log here soon 08:09 wont be back for 2 weeks 08:09 gotcha 08:09 may your enterprise be a success and stay safe 08:09 thanks 08:12 NCommander: oh I guess I should warn you, my rcfile shows long stuff on the bottom status line and that only works correctly if the terminal size is exactly 80x25. Your terminal is bigger, which may result in the bottom status line either disappearing or being cut off (probably the latter) if it gets too long. 08:18 LarienTelrunya, thanks 08:18 LarienTelrunya, what should I remove for it? 08:19 NCommander: well the best solution would be to make your terminal exactly 80x25 because then the status line will wrap around :P but if you don't want that, remove the following line: OPTIONS=showlongstats,showmc,showmovement 08:20 do note that the status line can still get too long even then, if you have a lot of status effects at once 08:22 You crumple-horned snorkack! You are prevented from having reflection! You hit the lesser umber hulk! (5 pts.) 08:22 shit 08:22 Is that permament? 08:22 nah, temporary 08:23 Will I get a message when it goes away? 08:23 * NCommander notes it's really hard to tell when a monster starts fleeing 08:23 yes: "You are no longer prevented from having reflection." 08:24 stenno are you able to load your evilhack game now to make sure its ok? 08:24 i think i already started new games 08:25 g2g now though, will be back in about two hours :) NCommander: thanks for playing, and good luck! if anything weird or noteworthy happens in my absence, feel free to say it in chat, I'll see it in the backscroll later :) 08:25 it loads fine at least 08:25 ok good deal 08:25 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: note to self: don't forget to buy fries this time] 08:25 i don't have two magic lamps so i guess this is not the one where i died 08:25 !who 08:25 K2: [hdf-us] edwardauron [nh362] disbtopia [nh4] NCommander [slex] | [hdf-eu] stenno [evil] elenmirie [evil] janekw [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:26 ok gotta log off 08:26 o// 08:26 see you all in 2 weeks 08:26 laters 08:26 thanks NCommander for the evilhack fix 08:26 o/ 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh4] hWZD3 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 26916 points, T:2202, killed by a tengu, while fainted from lack of food 08:50 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Val Vee Fem Law), 19060 points, T:6278, killed by brainlessness 08:50 bleh 08:54 bye o/ 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh4] WD1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 32622 points, T:2638, killed by a rothe 09:39 -!- StinkyGr1ene has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:48 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:05 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Val Ang Fem Law), 33745 points, T:3946, hidden green slime 10:05 LarienTelrunya, iron man mode is interesting 10:05 bloody sliming 10:06 NCommander: oh yaaaaaay you're playing ironman? I gotta watch :D 10:06 LarienTelrunya, well I just expired 10:06 Got slimed and Tyr decided to be an ass 10:06 and you had already used up the scroll of cure I guess? 10:07 oh, almost 4k turns, so I guess you did 10:08 LarienTelrunya, my last Valk Veela got wrecked, int drain and died of brainlessness \o/ 10:08 argh :( 10:08 did you start with an INT of 3 again? 10:09 LarienTelrunya, yeah 10:09 Can't decide if I want to play Angel or Veela 10:09 in 2017's junethack, I had a barbarian start with INT 3... and ended up ascending, but sadly it was a couple days after the tournament had already ended 10:09 The BUC identification is incredibly useful 10:10 LarienTelrunya, I actually had plaststeel armor in ironman mode, had a lot of trouble with the trap that makes you forget the map around you 10:10 LarienTelrunya, the game is a bit glitchy in curses mode :( 10:11 ah, lasting amnesia trap? 10:11 what glitch? 10:11 LarienTelrunya, I can't easily do 80x25 because I need an enlarged console (my eyesight isn't great) 10:11 LarienTelrunya, pressing ; required two key presses afterwards to move the cursor and other minor glitches 10:11 ah, and I guess ray wand effects not showing up in curses mode 10:11 Probably 10:12 i.e. the game pauses for the duration of supposedly showing the beam but it doesn't actually show the beam 10:12 I actually tend to prefer tty mode, but it's hard on my eyes because it doesn't work so well with odd terminal sizes 10:12 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 10:12 hmm you're on windows right? with putty? what if you simply make the font bigger? 10:12 No, Linux 10:12 oh I see 10:12 And I do 10:13 I turn it up fairly large, but SLEX has issues with non 80x25 terminals in tty. In curses, I can see my full status bar at least 10:14 * NCommander hates being nearly blind :( 10:15 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:16 yeah sorry about the status line cutoff issue :( it was enough of a pain in the ass to get statuscolors to work with the line wrap at all, and I have no idea how to make it work with all terminal sizes 10:17 it's because SLASH'EM has always had a wrapping status line but the statuscolors patch was made for the inferior vanilla which doesn't know that of course the line is supposed to wrap to the next one if it gets too long! 10:19 I may try an Angel Gladiadtor 10:20 Starting with MR and Reflection is pretty powerful 10:20 in at least one junethack, gladiator was a very popular role :) 10:22 that said, there's a bunch of roles that start with a jumpsuit, which also gives reflection; those roles are nuclear physicist, space marine, stormboy and astronaut 10:22 A jumpsuit gives reflection? 10:22 That seems... arbitrary. 10:23 yeah I agree, only Chris_ANG knows why it does because that's where I got the idea from 10:23 i.e. dnethack 10:24 Oh, in that case it's probably anacronism-naut gear. 10:24 Which makes sense. 10:24 * NCommander debates 10:24 To the extent that any of the anachrononaut gear makes sense. 10:25 I do like Valks a lot, and if I can get the orb of fate, it would be amazing 10:25 I may try an angel gladiador ironman 10:27 <{Demo}1> why are time travellers and space travellers conflated? 10:27 Hello NCommander, welcome to SlashEMExtended! You are a lawful female ironman angelic Gladiator.--More-- 10:28 * LarienTelrunya watches :) 10:31 ah frig 10:39 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wiz1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 25200 points, T:2184, killed by a water demon 10:55 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Gla Ang Fem Law), 23463 points, T:2163, killed by a monster (oddoshishi) 10:55 That was fun 10:55 rip... were you saving the scrolls of healing for the next char? 10:55 when I'm feeling more up to it, I'll probably try a more stragetic play 10:55 LarienTelrunya, didn't really think about it. I"m pretty tired in real life 10:56 ah I see 10:56 actually I'm similarly tired, but I want to continue the DNHslex LP and when that char dies, probably start a new SLEX LP char :D 10:56 if I do end up posting in the LP, I'll notify you of course 10:56 * NCommander winds up LarienTelrunya's key 10:56 hahaha I'm not a quantum mechanic! 10:56 err, clockwork automaton 10:57 they share the Q glyph, that's probably why I got confused there 10:57 LarienTelrunya, lol 10:57 LarienTelrunya, it would be nice if SLEX has the Angband "This is all the monsters you're aware of" and ways to see the pokedex easily 10:58 well yeah, but Angband does that by having several windows 10:58 Farlooking everything is tired. 10:58 curses mode :), or just a full screen pop up like the inventory screen 10:58 also you can farlook muuuuuuuch more quickly if you do it via / instead of ; 10:58 ? 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3093 10:59 if you use / and then answer 'y' in the question that appears, you get a cursor just like if you use ; but if you then hit , to view what is somewhere, the cursor will stay there instead of you having to press ; again to get a new cursor! 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZD1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 10815 points, T:698, killed by a jackal 10:59 That's ... considerbaly better 10:59 * NCommander should sleep sadly 10:59 so you can move the cursor somewhere, hit , to see what's there, hit space to get the cursor back, move it one square, hit , again and so on 11:00 good night! now at least you have something to look forward to when you wake up: a better farlook command :D 11:02 LarienTelrunya, makes sense 11:02 LarienTelrunya, I need to figure a way to fix the terminal to 80x25 11:02 well your terminal emulator certainly can be configured somehow; unfortunately I can't be much help there because I'm on windows 11:04 LarienTelrunya, I can play on Windows 11:04 * NCommander is dual boot 11:04 oh :D 11:04 LarienTelrunya, with Putty, the window can be resized, how can I lock it to 80x25 11:05 [NCommande the Stripling] St17 Dx13 Co17 In9 Wi5 Ch3 ValVeeFemLaw S0 11:05 Finally 11:05 A valk that isn't entirely braindamaged 11:05 one moment 11:05 I'm going to get pizza 11:05 I'll be back. 11:05 * NCommander is trying to force himself to stay awake 11:05 oh I thought you wanted to sleep :D 11:06 when opening putty.exe, before you connect, you can go to "Window" and there set "Columns" to 80 and "Rows" to 25 11:06 resizing the terminal after it's already open will not work, but make it behave strangely; the size must be set before connecting to dgamelaunch 11:06 LarienTelrunya, yeah, that's a problem with dgamelaunch 11:07 I actually have to force TERM=xterm or my color preferences get overriden 11:07 LarienTelrunya, I thought about it, forcing myself awake is the "saner" move. I have a very important call I need to be on at 1PM EST 11:07 And I need to be functional for it 11:08 NCommander: what, really? wouldn't it be better then to sleep for a bit and set an alarm that wakes you in time so you're functional at 1PM? 11:09 It's 11AM now 11:09 EST 11:09 I hate having a stupid sleep disorder 11:09 oh so it's not worth it to sleep for maybe half an hour now, I see 11:10 The call is tomorrow 11:10 If I sleep now, I'll wake up at like 8PM. 11:10 ahh 11:10 sorry, that wasn't clear 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4748 points, T:4102, quit 11:11 LarienTelrunya, BTW, evil level idea: Heathrow Airport. The entrance message is "You've entered a hell of man's own creation" 11:11 :D what would that look like? I haven't ever been there 11:11 bleak 11:12 or berlin tegel 11:12 gah 11:12 where nobody really gives a shit 11:12 Terminal 2 of tegel is the most depressing place in Berlin 11:12 imo tegel is pleasant 11:12 otoh the hong kong airport is insanely efficient 11:12 I like Berlin but fuck that airport sucks. 11:13 stenno, ++, same with Singapore 11:13 they are really quick in handling people 11:13 Yup 11:13 anyway, pizza 11:13 idk i like how silly tegel is 11:13 * NCommander has pants on 11:13 ok 11:15 Why terminal 2 in particular? 11:17 <{Demo}1> pill orc sound like a slur for a druggie 11:17 <{Demo}1> actually I like pill goblin better 11:18 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wizd1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 22984 points, T:1639, killed by a water moccasin 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Huhetotl, on T:70286 11:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:27 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:28 Pizza was tasty 11:28 Anyway, rebooting 11:28 man I want a pizza too :D 11:29 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:30 * NCommander returns to a more primitive dungeon 11:31 LarienTelrunya: Don't let your dreams be dreams 11:31 Order that pizza 11:31 hmm I guess I need to start preparing today's dinner 11:31 PavelB: haha, well I have nuremberg sausages and fries, and they want to be eaten :) 11:32 IDK what a nuremberg sausage is but I have a sneaking suspicioun you could use it as a pizza topping 11:32 *suspicion 11:34 LarienTelrunya, where is your RC file again 11:34 !help 11:34 NCommander: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 11:34 !cmds 11:38 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/AmyBSOD.slexrc 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:25669 11:40 !commands 11:40 PavelB: available commands are !help !ping !time !pom !hello !booze !beer !potion !tea !coffee !whiskey !vodka !rum !tequila !scotch !goat !lotg !d(1-1000) !(1-50)d(1-1000) !8ball !rng !role !race !variant !tell !source !lastgame !lastasc !asc !streak !rcedit !scores !sb !setmintc !whereis !players !who !commands 11:40 NCommander: ^ 11:41 !who stenno 11:41 stenno: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] oh6 [nh362] every [nh362] Grouchy [nh362] disbtopia [nh4] lizardo [xnh] | [hdf-eu] janekw [nh362] OmNyomNyom [fh] | [hdf-au] WonkoTheSane [nh362] 11:42 !tea 11:42 * Beholder throws PavelB a cup of black tea, brewed by demogorgon at 195 degrees Fahrenheit. 11:43 !grog 11:43 !goat NCommander 11:43 bug_sniper_'s goat runs up and rams NCommander in the arse! Baaaaaa! 11:43 !goat 11:43 Beholder's goat runs up and rams bug_sniper_ in the nose! Baaaaaa! 11:45 thats a lot of different boozes lol 11:46 !potion 11:46 * Beholder tosses stenno a vial of gain level, distilled by NotTheOracle\dnt at 345 Kelvin. 11:46 thanks nto 11:47 LarienTelrunya, what's petkeeping do? 11:47 (or where's the guide to all the new skills) 11:48 NCommander: pets deal more damage, heal faster, can follow even when not directly adjacent and are generally better 11:48 sadly I didn't create such a guide yet 11:48 * NCommander hands LarienTelrunya a scroll of guide creation 11:48 :D 11:49 also, in slex you have considerably more skill points available than in vanilla; the # you have left is displayed at the top, you get 2 points per level up and every skill increase only uses up one, so you can max out a whole lot of skills. 11:49 <{Demo}1> I want a zapm tournament that is kind of like tnnt 11:50 s/zapm\K/ and prime/ 11:51 <{Demo}1> I have a strong feeling prime really shits the bed that zapm makes 11:53 prime adds a bunch of cool roles though, and those roles are in slex now and I wouldn't want to miss them ;) 11:53 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:26186 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:26188 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:26191 12:04 @le? grue 12:04 grue ~2~ Ruea (f) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 27 | Spd: 13 | Res: disintegrate poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 65 | Generates: unique | AC: -6 | Attacks: 5d4 weapon seduce, 2d12 kick legwound, 5d5 non-contacting-beam Pestilence, 5d8 breath drain str | Alignment: -12 | Flags: omnivore, conceals, poisonous, nopoly, stalker 12:05 @le? pikachu 12:05 pikachu (r) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 13 | Res: shock | Confers: shock | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 7 | Attacks: 3d3 bite shock, 3d3 breath shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, oviparous, infravisible 12:05 What does `grue ~2~ Ruea` mean? 12:06 it means that there is no monster named "grue" and the algorithm used levensthein distance to find the closest name that exists; in this case it had to change 2 letters for that 12:06 ah 12:06 LarienTelrunya, should I bless intelligent packs before I use them? 12:06 slex should have grues though 12:07 NCommander: nah, that would be a waste, since they give the same amount anyway 12:07 PavelB: it has tons of grues, but they have distinct names :D 12:07 @le?floor grue 12:07 floor grue (.) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 4 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d2 bite physical, 1d2 passive tickle, 1d1 gaze remove-light | Alignment: -5 | Flags: genocidable, swims, breathless, mindless, oviparous, vegan 12:07 @le?dark grue 12:07 dark grue (.) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 5 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 8 | Attacks: 1d4 bite physical, 1d4 passive tickle, 1d1 gaze remove-light | Alignment: -5 | Flags: genocidable, swims, breathless, mindless, oviparous, vegan 12:07 @le?ebony grue 12:07 ebony grue (.) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 35 | Spd: 8 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: -12 | Attacks: 2d18 bite remove-light, 2d18 passive tickle, 1d1 gaze remove-light | Alignment: -5 | Flags: genocidable, swims, breathless, mindless, oviparous, nopoly, vegan 12:07 ...and so on 12:07 do they kill you instantly and hide in dark places :D 12:08 You discover it is a w-uncursed +7 crossbow (weapon in hands) {20} 12:08 damn 12:08 nah, they make areas dark 12:08 LarienTelrunya, so int packs ... should I use them immediately? 12:08 (if uncursed) 12:08 NCommander: whoa! in slex, enchanted launchers give multishot bonuses; it's very hard to get decent multishot with crossbows but at expert crossbow skill that thing should fire at least 3 bolts per turn 12:08 NCommander: you should even use them immediately if they're cursed :D 12:09 i.e. intelligence packs are an item type that works the same regardless of BUC 12:10 what's w-uncursed 12:10 wuncursed 12:11 as opposed to twocursed 12:11 means the item is made of wood (NCommander is playing with the materialglyph option on) 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZD1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 31643 points, T:3877, killed by a bolt of cold 12:18 Oh hell 12:18 I got bashined to Dl:69 12:18 rip (unless you can somehow levelport out) 12:19 i hate getting bashined mayself 12:19 bashined? 12:19 it's the worst, pavelb 12:20 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:20 never heard that word before 12:21 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 12:22 [hdf-us] [slex] NCommander (Val Vee Fem Law), 30211 points, T:3016, burned by a fireball 12:22 *banished 12:22 LarienTelrunya, nope. 12:22 LarienTelrunya, that run was cruel 12:22 rip :( 12:22 yeah banishment is a very rare wand, but if a monster gets hold of it, it can zap you 12:23 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 12:23 Well I got stuck n a maze level on Dl:4 and dungeon features grew up around me 12:23 I had to phase door technique several times and found a stair case to the mines 12:23 since I desperately needed a pick and axe 12:23 yeah I was watching ;) 12:23 ah 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:26438 12:23 I'm thinking of trying priest angel 12:24 pick-axes are IMHO essential gear in slex 12:25 in slex, priests have a ton of pantheons to choose from, including some "bonus" pantheons not associated with any role ;) 12:26 -!- wvc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:31 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:26657 12:39 NCommander: remember that your priest has the healing spell ;) 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:27084 12:42 LarienTelrunya, thanks 12:59 i am on dlvl 2. so far i've thrown 14 zombie corpses into the lava. i still hear a low groaning 13:00 !whereis hothraxxa 13:00 PavelB: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil]: (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) T:9674 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 13:00 !whereis NCommander 13:00 NCommander: [hdf-us] NCommander [slex]: (Pri Ang Mal Law) T:2573 The Dungeons of Doom level: 7 13:00 hothraxxa, the fires of hell must be filling up 13:02 * NCommander takes a break 13:02 i forget how many i threw in the last time i was on this level, but there were a few 13:02 I do think somethings wrong with me 13:02 I'm playing SLEX, enjoying it, and considering it *winnable* 13:02 * LarienTelrunya starts playing for the slex LP again :D 13:02 Send help. 13:02 NCommander: hahaha :D ascend that priest! avenge mine who died post-quest due to a game bug! 13:03 but yeah, this slex version is supposed to be winnable, although so far it hasn't been won yet 13:04 LarienTelrunya, a - a segfault 13:04 it's primal cursed 13:04 LarienTelrunya, what made you make the game (somewhat) more winnable? 13:05 heh, that's not what ate my priest; a lich cast megaload on me, giving me a loadstone, but due to a bug it weighed as much as 18 loadstones and I couldn't do anything but wait for him to kill me. 13:05 well the previous versions were so hard that it started to annoy even me, so I decided to make a bunch of changes in favor of the player 13:09 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 13:10 LarienTelrunya, I still love the quote about you ragequitting 13:10 you mean the one at https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2629 ? 13:11 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Delraven (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) was given the Armor of Khazad-dum, on T:11027 13:11 yeah 13:12 :D 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 22181 points, T:16189, killed by a leocrotta 13:13 * NCommander should probably sleep but ugh 13:16 LarienTelrunya, how deep can the stairs to the mines spawn? 13:16 I haven't found them yet 13:16 NCommander: 2-4 13:16 Ok 13:16 so I missed it 13:16 hrm 13:16 * NCommander heads to soko first 13:17 and the soko upstair is somewhere on 8-10 (and no longer tied to the oracle, which doesn't spawn every game anyway) 13:17 how many branches can there be between mines and soko 13:18 right now in slex only the space base 13:18 unless I forgot something 13:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:18 LarienTelrunya, scroll of proof armor .. I should probably proof my robe of reflection 13:18 A random worn armor-class item is made erosionproof if you read this. 13:19 NCommander: good idea; also wtf, it says "a random piece of armor"? it should actually allow you to pick one... 13:19 Ah, I cant select 13:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:19 * NCommander doesn't risk it, and will see if it gives a prompt 13:19 it does let you select! the description is wrong, will fix :D 13:20 If you read proof armor while confused 13:20 Does it enchant it instead 13:20 LarienTelrunya, it doesn't seem to matter if I bless it? 13:21 nah, it works the same regardless of BUC and confusion status 13:21 rofl: pline("Thomas Biskup hates you and all other players!!!"); 13:21 heh that's the IBM guild manual, which you should never read :D 13:21 (neither in slex nor in adom) 13:23 LarienTelrunya, I've read the real life ones 13:23 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 13:23 Years of theory removed confusion 13:23 heh 13:23 LarienTelrunya, oooh, soko is a vanilla puzzle, and the final level \o/ 13:24 :) 13:26 the C-uncursed ring of special effects named Clearvision 13:27 ring of special effects? 13:27 has a randomized effect each game; in your game it apparently has denastification 13:27 it's all CGI these days anyway 13:27 also there's an invisible staircase in the boulder corridor :D 13:29 LarienTelrunya, how can I find it, also my borders keep getting turned invisible >.> 13:30 well you're an angel, so any darkness attack will give you weak sight for a while; that grue was using a darkness gaze 13:30 the staircase will be highlighted red if you or an item are on top of it; not sure if you noticed while walking down that corridor 13:30 ah, I did 13:30 Is there anything in the zoo or should I just go up? 13:31 well the zoo will be filled with monsters, and one of the engraving sites has a prize 13:31 so worth clearing out 13:31 want me to tell you what the prize is? 13:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:43 It's probably some sweet stilleto heels 13:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:43 Or a pants-suit confering reflection 13:44 LarienTelrunya: Please do 13:45 <@Winsalot> Fukcing finally 13:45 !whereis Winsalot 13:45 PavelB: [hdf-eu] winsalot [dnh]: (Con Orc Mal Cha) T:29799 Chaos Quest level: 24 13:45 sorry guys, NCommander hasn't finished the level yet :D either he asks me to tell him or I'll wait until he finds it ;) 13:45 <@Winsalot> And thank god this Chaos dude had my bell of awakening 13:45 <@Winsalot> Otherwise I don't know what I would have done. Had no idea where my bell went lol 13:45 LarienTelrunya: You can put it in rot13 :3 13:46 LarienTelrunya, cursed ring of hallucation 13:46 Vg'f n evat bs unyyhpvangvba gung nhgbphefrf jura jbea. Ohg ur unf na negvsnpg evat gung tvirf unyyhpvangvba erfvfgnapr fb vg jba'g or fb onq. 13:46 heh, you beat me by one second :P 13:46 that could be fun 13:46 But why 13:46 LarienTelrunya, are all the non final soko levels have cruddy prizes? 13:47 PavelB: it's a trap, because the average player will think "hey, that ring must be the prize! it's certainly something good so this one goes right on!" 13:47 NCommander: yes :D 13:47 amulet of blindness, oilskin gloves and other really bad items can be found there 13:47 is there an actual prize somewhere 13:47 yeah the actual prize is still at the final sokoban level 13:51 <@Togue the Toeist> not that much of a spoiler theres 4 levels you gotta go through 13:52 LarienTelrunya: I saw an actual human wearing an actual SLEX worthy outfit in real life. It was a desert camo pantsuit with a popped collar. "Pantsuit of Distortion" 13:52 bouquet: did you take a screenshot? 13:53 I would have been too conspicuous. The image is burned into my mind. 13:53 heh, today I saw a wonderlovely fleece bundle girl with very blue hair and cuuuuuuuuute white platform boos 13:53 *boots ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 13:54 it was this one: https://n.nordstrommedia.com/id/sr2/5f8a3c1a-f19e-4ec6-b38f-ec81206040ae.jpeg?crop=pad&pad_color=FFF&format=jpeg&w=780&h=1196&dpr=2&quality=60 13:54 yo 13:54 not cool 13:54 she had strappy sandals and a gucci bag 13:55 what's slexy about that outfit though? 13:55 * NCommander needs an amulet of restful sleep in real life 13:55 it struck me as a combination of function, protection, and stealth 13:59 speaking of 13:59 anyone know if there's anything I can pick up at a drug store to knock me out for the night without a prescription or anything 14:00 Priests cast with wisdom, right? 14:01 yeah 14:04 PavelB: Rum 14:05 I'll be sure to try that later but I'm also looking for something more legal for a 17-year-old 14:10 god, dnhslex is so boring compared to actual slex... just noticed while continuing my LP 14:10 and the worst part is, my dnhslex LP char is still alive so I need to continue playing *groan* 14:13 LarienTelrunya, is it that ring of special effects that's causing the monster colors to go MIA? 14:13 NCommander: no, that would be the colorfade cloak 14:14 oh 14:14 Screw it 14:14 still worth it 14:18 appartantly the soko prize was picked up by the monsters in the tension room 14:18 Cause I just got the notification for grabbing it 14:18 yeah, that can happen; they're no longer completely unable to step on an Elbereth square 14:23 PavelB: nyquil 14:24 LarienTelrunya, well I think this is a landmark, I complete SLEX soko and didn't die \o/ 14:24 and got an amulet of relfection 14:24 * NCommander stashed the cloak for now 14:24 NCommander: oh it's the first time you got a trophy in slex? yay! TROPHY GET! :D 14:25 LarienTelrunya, I haven't played much SLEX 14:25 LarienTelrunya, think it's time to go find minetown, and go donate for some divine protection 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:11285 14:29 LarienTelrunya, does MR/Reflection help against banishment? 14:30 Thanks bouquet 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11387 14:31 Nyquil - best nights sleep I've ever had. 14:31 basically a potion of sleep 14:32 NCommander: no, there's not much that helps against banishment 14:32 basically, only the "trap of no return" effect (and items that replicate it) will make banishment fail, and they have the downside that you cannot teleport at all anymore 14:34 ideally you'll want to have a couple scrolls of teleportation and a method to confuse yourself, which you can use in case you get banished, and hope that it teleports you to a shallower level 14:40 Need to id scrolls of teleport ASAP 14:42 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:43 reading the list of items, I feel like my chances of potentially winning have gone down considerably 14:44 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:44 NCommander: huh? why? 14:44 just the nasty wands, loose intristic, banishment, stoning, etc. 14:44 and my god hates me right now 14:44 or is displeased, I dunno why prayer failed 14:45 broke boulders and therefore tried to pray with negative luck? 14:58 Probably. Thought it was long enough to time out. It was only displeased so I should be Ok given enough time, or do some saccing 14:59 yeah, hopefully! although as a lawful, gods aren't extra hard to mollify ;) 15:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:03 LarienTelrunya, indeed. I still need to find a semi-decent weapon. And I should sleep at some point 15:04 yeah me too, I just wrapped up my dnhslex run for today (still alive) and will post it to the LP thread now, then probably go to bed 15:04 do you have a slex lp 15:05 yes, but I just discovered that the forum where I posted it is having maintenance right now 15:05 so I guess I can't post the update 15:06 pavelb: what's your sleep problem? if you just need to get your sleep cycle under control, try melatonin 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36359 15:06 Well I went to bed at 11 yesterday and actually fell asleep at 3 15:06 Been like that for a couple days 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36361 15:06 * NCommander has non-24 sleep/wake disorder 15:06 then you might try it too 15:07 i used it to adjust jet lag wehn i was traveling to hawaii every year 15:07 I'll check it out 15:07 I suppose I should ask someone at the drugstore 15:07 it's not a knock-you-out drug 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:36389 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 t-shirt", on T:36392 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:13751 15:14 alright I decided to make true on my promise to go to bed early for once :D good night guys! and thanks for playing NCommander, it was a lot of fun to watch :) ♥ 15:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:16 hothraxxa, melatonin really didn't help 15:17 nyquil it is 15:17 Tolstoy. 15:18 Can't sleep? Try to read War and Peace. 15:18 You will sleep. 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 2 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:37380 15:24 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:31 We watched the c. 8h Soviet-era _War and Peace_ which had a disappointing amount of Napoleon in 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 604 points, T:2807, killed by a wand, while sleeping 15:39 <@Togue the Toeist> "Something to knock me out" "legal for a 17 yo" 15:40 <@Togue the Toeist> Hold your breath till you pass out 15:40 <@Togue the Toeist> Thats the best you can get 15:40 NyQuil is OTC and I'm informed that it works 15:43 Move to a sensible jurisdiction. Rum. 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:70854 15:51 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 15:54 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:56 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 15:58 -!- Frederic has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Huhetotl, on T:71100 16:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:37637 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:37791 16:17 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 16:32 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39400 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:20929 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:30102 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:21122 16:45 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:30542 17:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:01 I'm surprised castle is doable without reflection+MR - seems like conflict is enuf 17:02 <@Togue the Toeist> whats ur outfit rn? 17:02 I take that bad - if there were a WoD, I'd be a gonner 17:03 <{Demo}1> yeah no its not safe to do it that way 17:03 <{Demo}1> but sometimes you live with a deathwish 17:04 except it's unintentional - no AoR in mines, no luck with polypile, gray dragon didn't drop (but the other 3 did) 17:04 no shield on Medusa 17:05 only luck was a Frost Brand from dgoddard bonez + Vorpal Blade unlock from gift 17:06 got me off the crappy blessed +1 mace as priest 17:08 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:12 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:15 omg Aleax dropped a polished silver shield on the way out of castle 8^) - saves one wish 17:16 eraserhead97, the drawbridge allows killing most monsters safely, too (albeit at the cost of polyfodder) 17:16 <{Demo}1> shields r dumb 17:16 <{Demo}1> !who 17:16 {Demo}1: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 [nh362] | [hdf-eu] zavtraleto [un] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:16 for a priest, it'll do for now 17:16 <{Demo}1> if u can twoweapon dont use a shield 17:16 <{Demo}1> EVER 17:16 <{Demo}1> its a bad call 17:16 I agree 17:17 but this is a stoopid priest 17:17 <{Demo}1> reflection is dope 17:17 if it's your only source of reflection, I think it's worth it for now 17:17 jilles: what's the polyfodder strategy from castle? 17:18 polypiling all the mundane armour is likely to get you a shirt 17:18 oh - I didn't know that - thx ^^ 17:18 <{Demo}1> i like shirts 17:18 <{Demo}1> also check the castle armor rooom 17:18 <{Demo}1> oh u did 17:18 <{Demo}1> i see no whites/purples there 17:18 yes, got a slippery cloak out of it 17:18 <{Demo}1> also vorpal SUX 17:19 <{Demo}1> oh u have frosty nvm 17:19 but still missing GoP, speed boots 17:19 <{Demo}1> thought vorpal was offhand but then realized vanilla 17:19 aye - vorpal did the job ov unlocking 17:19 of 17:19 <{Demo}1> yeah true 17:19 <{Demo}1> yeah 17:19 <{Demo}1> thats all its good for :P 17:19 <{Demo}1> why r u a neutral priest? 17:19 <{Demo}1> neutrals SUCK 17:19 unfortunately 17:19 it was random draw 17:20 <{Demo}1> ah 17:20 I could've wished for eye or weight - but wasn't lucky enuf 17:20 too many arti's showed up 17:20 <{Demo}1> i love the eye 17:20 <{Demo}1> cause i love branchporting 17:20 <{Demo}1> so i play dnh/ndnh 17:21 I was hooked on eye or weight for branch/levelporting, until I discovered cursed tele scrolls... 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:40136 17:21 now, I want unholy water even more 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40742 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:40743 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hekik (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:34981 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:31707 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:31720 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41063 17:42 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41079 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hekik (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:35034 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:41109 17:45 ah, that was a bummer 17:45 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 17:45 Hekik: what's wrong? 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:41262 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:41264 17:46 I had blessed +5 GDSM which reverted to scales when I was polymorphed into a dragon. When I changed back to human I thought I'd convert the +5 scales back to mail with a blessed enchant armor 17:46 poof, no more scales 17:47 and actually they were silver 17:47 but no matter, I think there's another set lying around in the castle 17:48 I had a GDSM accident earlier today, too (but cost me a wish) - while using A to remove all my armor, except one item to enchant, I didn't pay attention to the log and just enchanted. The GSM blew up. 17:49 The reason was, a mob moved next to me and interrupted my armor removal. 17:49 ah 17:49 speed (sometimes) kills in this game 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a cockatrice, on T:42310 17:58 cool - IceBox is going to bite Demo as a c 8^O 17:58 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:42324 17:58 success! 17:59 <@kriptospicebox> oof i think i got real lucky there 17:59 <@kriptospicebox> what would've happened if i got touch of deathed in poly form with no MR? 17:59 <@kriptospicebox> is that full death? 17:59 that was smart thinking tho ^^ 17:59 <@kriptospicebox> i didn't know the space you're in had to be empty to #sit and lay eggs 17:59 <@kriptospicebox> yeah i moved off of scare monster thinking i'd either be able to lay an egg or he'd sting me 17:59 <@kriptospicebox> forgot about touch of death though 18:00 what did you do to change form? I didn't see it... 18:00 <@kriptospicebox> wand of poly and had polyC rings of course 18:00 <@kriptospicebox> didn't need to polypile much so figured why not 18:00 does that still work if you have MR 18:00 poly + PC? 18:00 <@kriptospicebox> i didn't have MR, took of body armour because i figured it would fall off anyways...but wasn't sure 18:00 Hi 18:00 Hello Xaleth_, Welcome to #hardfought 18:00 <@kriptospicebox> it was a risky play, haha 18:01 ic 18:01 <@kriptospicebox> had GDSM and took that off 18:01 very creative tho - I'm impressed! 18:01 <@kriptospicebox> haha well i just knew i wanted a rubber chicken and if you cant find one...become one! 18:01 <@kriptospicebox> luckily was female as well. My actual plan was to lay a few eggs, polymorph back and then throw the eggs 18:01 I want frame that quote ^^ 18:01 <@kriptospicebox> but i probably could've just attacked 18:02 now, what's the safe way to turn back or don't turn back for now? 18:05 <@kriptospicebox> i stepped off, and xapped 18:05 <@kriptospicebox> zapped* 18:06 <@kriptospicebox> can still use wands 18:06 <@kriptospicebox> wasn't 100% safe cuz with no MR you can die anytime 18:06 <@kriptospicebox> but figured i'd be oK 18:06 you mean like a suicide zap, right? 18:06 wait - or you poly'ed to your original race? 18:08 <@kriptospicebox> yeah poly'd back to human 18:08 <@kriptospicebox> only risk is i think your stats can get somewhat re-rolled 18:08 <@kriptospicebox> but didn't care 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:43217 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:43323 18:13 yuk - gremlins on water plane 8^P 18:13 <@kriptospicebox> yeah pretty sad 18:13 <@kriptospicebox> just slows me down 18:14 but what can be really ugly - can they cover the transport trap? what happens if they land on one? 18:15 hopefully, they transport (no covering the trap) 18:15 what's that view command you're using to look for the traps? 18:15 <@kriptospicebox> oh there is a 100% chance the portal will be covered 18:15 <@kriptospicebox> which is why i'm using #terrain constantly 18:16 ah - I didn't know about #terrain - ty ^^ 18:16 <@kriptospicebox> i shouldn't say 100%...but pretty damn likely an item or corpse will be on it 18:16 <@kriptospicebox> yep neither did i for a while 18:16 <@kriptospicebox> i have my advance menu mapped to buttons, but i think it's #terrain and then "without monsters and objects" 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:43561 18:24 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1857494 points, T:43576, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/I/IceBox/nh361/dumplog/1556748372.nh361.txt 18:37 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:41 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 137 points, T:263, killed by a falling rock 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 79 points, T:179, killed by a bear trap 19:14 !tell k2 the first tengu you eat always gives both teleportitis and teleport control. this is nice and not evil at all 19:14 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, hothraxxa. 19:23 YANI: remove cursed gold detect workaround to find the portal in the planes. Make monsters die if they stumble upon the portal. After a while a pile of corpses should give it away. 19:25 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 19:49 <@riker> something something water plane something 19:49 <@riker> that would be even more annoying to track down with that, bouqet 19:49 <@riker> *bouquet 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12236 20:04 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG you should probably be able to eat incantifier corpses as an inc, even if cannibalism penalty? not sure about what incantifiers exactly are made of, eating magic and all (even tho they're distantly ex-human iirc) 20:04 No worries, @riker, I've got this! 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:32579 20:13 <@riker> !who 20:13 @riker: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] eraserhead97 [nh362] Menche [nh362] fcloud [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 20:14 I found a wand of slow monster (0:-1) - how does that happen? 20:14 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 20:14 <@riker> demo: did you make a list of what the ACU artifacts did ever? or just sourcediving 20:14 <@riker> eraserhead: it was cancelled 20:14 <{Demo}1> no 20:14 <{Demo}1> use src 20:14 <{Demo}1> or play game 20:14 <@riker> damn ok 20:14 <{Demo}1> and find out 20:14 kk 20:14 <{Demo}1> plz andthank 20:14 <@riker> found the berith crown I want to know >:| 20:15 <{Demo}1> it keeps the suckies off ur head 20:15 <{Demo}1> mind suckies 20:15 <@riker> oh yeah 20:15 <@riker> anythign else? 20:15 <@riker> looks like nothing but a +3 helmet 20:15 <{Demo}1> its gold and heav 20:15 <{Demo}1> and super useful for quest 20:16 <@riker> goddamnit buer was wearing the stupid amulet 20:16 <{Demo}1> he be like that 20:16 <{Demo}1> his other amulet is pretty fancy 20:16 <{Demo}1> sustain abil 20:17 <{Demo}1> regen 20:17 <@riker> ye 20:18 <@riker> hey what's the penalty for killing one of the town dudes 20:18 <@riker> my race 20:18 <@riker> need chupo and I haven't seen a gravestone 20:18 <@riker> are they quest guardians? 20:19 <{Demo}1> uhhh 20:19 <{Demo}1> nah 20:19 <{Demo}1> they just homies 20:19 <@riker> also lmao I splatted every single egg at once 20:19 <{Demo}1> good 20:20 <@riker> ye 20:20 <@riker> so many casts of force bolt lmao 20:20 <@riker> wait why isn't chup sleep resistant 20:20 <@riker> lol 20:20 <@riker> literally gives sleep res when bound 20:21 <{Demo}1> fuck 20:21 <{Demo}1> thank 20:22 <@riker> np 20:23 <@riker> I got hella lucky, about to fight berith when I found that spbk lol 20:23 <@riker> also I don't get murder penalties for non-human things right? like this frost giant shk? 20:24 <@riker> nope 20:24 <{Demo}1> probably not lol 20:26 <@riker> I love how that leaves literally no reason to leave this bois alive 20:26 <@riker> no watch either lol 20:27 <@riker> also is eating brains supposed to give nutrition I'm an ACU 20:27 <{Demo}1> fuck the watch they basically 12 20:27 <{Demo}1> yes it is 20:27 <{Demo}1> u cant choke to death 20:27 <@riker> kk 20:29 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:32 <@riker> what's the abominable veil do demo 20:33 <{Demo}1> uhhh 20:33 <{Demo}1> cold res? 20:33 <@riker> anything else useful? 20:34 <{Demo}1> yeah cold res 20:34 <{Demo}1> and NOCNT 20:37 <@riker> what's nocnt 20:38 <@riker> I thought that was doesn't count towards gen'd artis 20:40 getting massive steroid injections from nurse - on VotD - neither of us can teleport due to mysterious force 20:45 <@riker> hey demo what's this stupid laval thing 20:45 <@riker> on the last lvl of soko 20:45 <@riker> this is lame 20:47 <{Demo}1> lokoban? 20:47 <{Demo}1> its wild 20:49 <@riker> damn I wanted a BoH 20:51 <@riker> aw FUCK 20:51 <@riker> I ate a ring of poly 20:51 <@riker> :( I meant to eat the poison res ring 20:51 <@riker> also hey @Demo fun bug: polyself can bump you up a level as an inc when you shouldn't be able to 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] Grandolar (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 2401 points, T:3044, killed by a snake, while unconscious from rotten food 20:53 <@riker> also why did that eye of doom teleport out of a vault demo? 20:56 <@Demo> wpt 20:56 <{Demo}1> oh as an acu u mean? 20:56 <@riker> yes 20:56 <@riker> I was ACU 20:56 <@riker> I was walking by teh vault 20:56 <{Demo}1> not as inc 20:56 <@riker> and then suddenly the eye of doom was there 20:56 <@riker> I was an inc acu 20:56 <{Demo}1> fuck off with ur confusing bullsht 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:34281 20:57 <{Demo}1> the eye shouldnt have escaoed 20:57 <{Demo}1> idk what t idd 20:57 <@riker> nice 20:57 is it nighttime? g's multiplying on Juiblex 21:01 conflict ftw 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 195181 points, T:25297, quit 21:06 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 240 points, T:1908, killed by a large mimic 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 19289 points, T:15266, zombified by a human zombie 21:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3019 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grandolar (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 181 points, T:1143, killed by a bat 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2448 points, T:4355, killed by a manes 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 56 points, T:241, killed by a jackal 21:54 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 21:58 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1188 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a newt corpse, on T:3210 22:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:09 "8 a ghost (Elronnd's ghost)" 22:09 spoopy ;o 22:09 <{Demo}1> wildm 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1696 points, T:3803, killed by a giant ant 22:10 !gt a 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:6579 22:15 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 22:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:17 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 22:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 22:20 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Client Quit] 22:25 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 22:35 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 199 points, T:1355, killed by a gnome 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Arc Hum Mal Law), 185 points, T:562, killed by a gnome lord 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9892 22:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:55 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:22251 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:22741 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "the eye of the aethiopica", on T:22753 23:28 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 23:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35681 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35685 23:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:37 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 23:43 damn liches - no free hands 8^P 23:45 I guess the closest place I can go to #pray is Vlad's Tower 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:23756 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23758 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:36439 23:54 -!- bobbyd has joined #hardfought 23:57 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought