00:00 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) defeated Medusa, on T:14623 00:00 Well that was anticlimatic 00:01 <@riker> once a pushover always a pushover 00:01 she stoned herself 00:01 evilhack makes her have a stoning touch attack and speeds her up 00:01 <@riker> anybody know exactly what ais523's gehennom thingy did? ("aiscav" in at least 4k and possibly other variants) 00:01 <@riker> I'm assuming it was his idea based on the name at least 00:04 is there a wiki or notes on 4k? 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "aa", on T:3845 00:07 <@riker> !tell aosdict "Polearm with a sling on the end, [...]" isn't this just an atlatl (from your YANI page) 00:07 aosdict shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, @riker. 00:07 <@riker> eraserhead just check the standard nh wiki for that item 00:07 <@riker> there's also a changelog on github 00:07 <@riker> not sure how complete ^ is 00:10 I think Ranger quest arti's the first one I'd like to leave behind (in stash)... 00:12 Oh that's unfriendly 00:12 Demilich on the level before the castle and he summoned in a ton of dragons 00:12 cull for DSM ^^ 00:12 eraserhead97, monk 00:13 I get stupid penalities for DSM 00:13 doh 00:13 yeah 00:13 I'm actually a stupidly squishy monk 00:13 Lv 13 and 74 HP 00:13 -_-; 00:13 The level up die have not been nice 00:14 do you have your Orb of Weight? 00:14 that's the valk quest artifact :) 00:14 -!- eady has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:14 Monk is eyes of the overworld, and has probably the toughest quest nemesis 00:14 oh - and you're chaotic 00:14 no wishing for it 00:14 yeah - Kaen sucks donkey balls 00:15 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 00:15 are you going for weaponless conduct? 00:15 vegan? 00:16 Vegan - no 00:16 Weaponless, I've maintained it thus far so I sorta want to keep it 00:16 nice - doh - You have never split a pudding.?!? 00:17 I punched it to death 00:17 The sink one is weird 00:17 is that a 4k conduct? 00:17 it's 4k and I believe 36 now 00:17 I am happy I completed sokoban without cheating with the new maps 00:17 I still dislike soko 00:17 but it does add some variety 00:18 4k soko has more variants or randomness? 00:18 more variants 00:18 nice 00:18 I didn't get any of the vanilla maps, and I didn't use spoilers 00:18 I'll try 4k after I complete this run ^^ 00:18 !who 00:18 NCommander: [hdf-us] Bugpowder [evil] Cropper [nh362] jonathanhanes [nh362] saxonysam [un] NCommander [4k] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 00:19 !asc eraserhead97 00:19 NCommander: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 has ascended 10 times in 240 games (4.17%): nh362:10 (4.33%) 00:19 nice 00:19 I've got two scrolls of genocide ... I might try to get unholy water, and nurse dance 00:19 For HP 00:19 I'm stupidly squishy 00:19 nurse dance's da bomb 00:20 alternatively, I can genocide C and polymorph into a mind flayer 00:20 10 natural AC is nice 00:20 er c 00:21 I attacked a c once as a vampire lord - that didn't work out... 00:21 got stoned? 00:21 that I'd be using my wielded weapon, not weapon + fangs 00:21 yeah 00:22 yeah, team c becomes stupidly dangerous if you self poly 00:22 I should run through the list of c-deaths - must've hit at least 70%+ already 00:22 THe safest is minotaur 00:23 I haven't gotten a single wand of digging this entire game 00:24 not sure what to do 00:25 Def. too squishy to deal with a demilich and a dragon horde 00:25 that's odd (I didn't get a key until almost 50k turns this run) 00:25 Fort didn't generate in this game 00:25 yeah and too squishy to deal vs minotaur to get /oDigging 00:25 how are your spells? 00:26 I actually beat the minotaur in hand to hand 00:26 damn 00:26 Fourk seems to have randomized their wands 00:26 ic 00:26 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:27 My dex is crap 00:27 So I'm depending on cloak for MR 00:27 Which means I can't use my robe 00:27 when I get a squishy too, I like to keep a ?oSM around for emergencies 00:27 oh... 00:27 Yeah 00:27 Not a good situation 00:28 RNG gave me a ton of bones but nothing massively useful aside from the CoMR 00:28 yeah, when I can get the #'s high enuf, I like to switch over to GDSM, but it seems like you're in the dangerous mid-game for monks 00:30 I do have an amulet of unchanging 00:30 But if I have poly control, I haven't IDed it 00:30 that'd do against polytraps or green slime? 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Ran Cen Mal Neu), 4578 points, T:3775, poisoned by a giant mosquito 00:31 WTF 00:31 FUUUUUU 00:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:31 rofl - giant mosquito - DAMN 00:31 guess I should take those more seriously 00:31 that's evil 00:32 that was a good start to a run too 00:32 argh 00:32 learning... 00:32 welcome to evilhack 00:32 NCommander: sometimes, in monk midgame, I'll swap MR w/robe to work in some spell-training... ...but that takes a lot of juggling 00:32 Bugpowder, you think the beginning is bad, just wait for the ascension run 00:32 I splatted a Knight 00:32 yeah. I’m sure its rough 00:32 eraserhead97, yeah that might be the way to go 00:32 oh well 00:32 at least there is a challenge 00:33 eraserhead97, I can't do anything about getting those dragons atm, not with a demilich on the level 00:33 that's just asking for suicide 00:33 esp. with my pitiful 78 HP 00:33 I thought it was gonna just be "Sting 1d8 (poison dexterity), sting 1d8 (damages legs), sting 1d8 (poison constitution)" 00:33 NCommander: where are they? I don't see them on the map atm 00:33 eraserhead97, level below 00:34 oh... ...ic 00:34 I scralled an emergency Elbereth, and ran for the stairs 00:34 dragons + lich is evil - no geno, I suppose? 00:35 MB can counter lich 00:35 but you'd lose weaponless 00:35 eraserhead97, I've got geno scrolls 00:35 just trying ideas - you do have a magic lamp, too 00:35 eraserhead97, yeah, I'm weighing my options 00:35 genociding L is an option 00:36 I've got two scrolls 00:36 and my marker might be able to make a third one 00:36 pickaxe? 00:36 Got one in the BoH 00:36 If I nuke the lich, I can probably take a dragon out 00:36 so you just need to prepare a few escape options before you go down (just in case) 00:36 cursed telescrolls? 00:37 TC? 00:37 2 00:37 no TC 00:37 nice 00:37 doh 00:37 and there's a red dragon 00:37 so it's really risky in open inveotry 00:37 oh - flames 00:37 Right 00:37 One red one black 00:37 disin 00:37 nope 00:37 but reflection works 00:38 line up black and red (red in between you and black) ^^ 00:39 Pretty much 00:39 I'm debating if I want to nuke the lich from orbit with a blessed genocide 00:39 do you have e-telepathy so you can see what's happening if you were to dig down? 00:39 I have the amulet but its stashed 00:39 ok 00:39 and I'd loose reflection 00:39 So that's not really an option 00:40 I always bless-geno L's whenever I can... 00:40 I don't think I ever have 00:40 unless I happen to have MB 00:40 I usually geno h 00:40 yeah - h's are 2nd on my list 00:40 * NCommander has never done a genocideless ascension 00:41 I'm gonna grab some milk and cookies and see how you work through this one... 00:41 I'm still mulling my options 00:41 I may go back up 00:41 But I'm thinking reaching the Castle is rather important at this juncture 00:43 castle is a few lvls below here? 00:45 or it's right below - where the L + Ds are... 00:48 eraserhead97, I'm not sure, it's close 00:48 I'm two levels below medusa 00:50 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 00:56 * NCommander is mulling real hard what to do 00:56 I'm leaning towards genociding L and then trying to off those dragons 00:57 I'm gonna head out to the gym - bb later - bye 00:57 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1473 points, T:2675, killed by a carnivorous ape 01:00 well that was a fun DFV while it lasted 01:09 Yum 01:17 DFV? 01:18 Never seen "drained of life by a thristy weapon" 01:22 DFV = dig for victory 01:23 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 01:29 Never done it 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 620 points, T:2141, killed by a wand 01:32 you shouldn't 01:32 it's basically a speedrun's crappy cousin 01:33 woops 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 20 points, T:67, killed by a water demon 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 134 points, T:566, killed by a wand 01:49 I swear, this level just does not have a downstair 01:50 unlikely, unless you're in some specific level. (mines' end, planes, etc) 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Gaelan (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 739 points, T:2756, killed by a dwarf 01:58 !ping 01:58 JonathanHanes: Pong! 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Gaelan (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 243 points, T:885, killed by a small mimic 02:08 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:10 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 02:13 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Gaelan (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 579 points, T:1270, killed by a boulder 02:43 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 02:54 Gaelan, #terrain is your friend 03:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:30634 03:09 Kenneth Arnold's ghost didn't have a cheap copy of the Amulet - I feel robbed 8^P 03:09 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 03:22 eraserhead97, my current fourk game is the first time I've seen the cheap copy in ages 03:22 * NCommander decided not to continue the game tonight, too tired 03:22 I'm going to genocide L when I come back to it, and then stair dance the dragons. 03:23 NCommander: smart - playing while fatigued can easily lead to YASD 03:23 eraserhead97, yeah, I already splatted a monk that way 03:23 (drowning attack in Rodney's moat) 03:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 259 points, T:1280, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food 03:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 84 points, T:361, killed by a water demon 03:31 !who 03:31 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 [nh362] StatueSurfer [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 03:32 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:33 I discovered splattv 03:33 this is amusing 03:36 nice - MasterLich on entry into G 03:38 eraserhead97, would you like your possessions cursed? 03:38 my MB says "No, thank you." 03:38 MB? 03:39 Magicbane 03:39 I don't think I've gotten MB in a really long time. I don't play many wizards though 03:39 I'm stil stinging from an Astral splat with my last one 03:40 Luckily, I got gifted MB as a Ranger ^^ MB effectively neutralizes L's - usually, I don't like to enter G without geno'ing L's first 03:40 Except when they surround you with mind flayers and disenchanters. 03:41 this MasterLich had already summoned too many mobs - so I #tip'ed my sack containing a scroll of scare monster 03:41 on the upstairs 03:42 I keep a plain sock with unidentified wands and a scroll of scare monster for emergencies 03:42 plain sack 03:42 All three of my ascensions was with only h genocided 03:42 My FIQHack priest had an ungodly powerful pet arch-lich 03:43 Who got vaporized by a black dragon 03:43 that's cool - an arch-lich pet - what lvl do u usually need before you can placate one? 03:46 1? 03:46 You can't tame an arch-lich, but you can tame something that turns into an arch-lich. 03:46 rofl - u know what I mean... 03:47 A lich? 03:48 wait... ...so if you really can't tame one, do you have to get lucky with a polywand or a polytrap? 03:48 eraserhead97, I polytrapped my pony into a lich 03:48 You can tame demiliches. 03:48 And then create monsters until he grew up 03:48 Gave him a bunch of spellbooks including charm monster 03:48 Which was hilarious when we went into zoos 03:49 He killstole Vlad and the Wizard a few times before the black dragon did him in 03:49 wut? the devs went as far as letting pets learn spells?!? dang! 03:49 eraserhead97, only in FIQHack 03:49 NCommander: o ic 03:49 one of the big changes in FIQHack is monster/player symmatry 03:50 I won't forget the death where I was genocided (since I was polymorphed) 03:50 there are too many nh-variants I have yet to try... 03:50 and one where I died due to a bug in the castle 03:50 eraserhead97, https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/7l7e62/yaapfiqhackprielfchamale_the_ascension_where_i/ - ascension writeup 03:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 3 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:46090 03:55 NCommander: nice write-up! 03:56 eraserhead97, I also have my samuari writeup, I never wrote up my valk (first asc) 03:57 eraserhead97, https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/7eoo6n/yaap_wishing_for_two_blessed_scrolls_of_remove/ 03:57 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 03:58 it might be fun to code up a loreMaster to automatically generate a story based on what happens 04:01 probably 04:01 * NCommander is watching some ascension runs and splats to see how other people do it 04:04 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:04 The fiery blade hits Juiblex. Juiblex's scroll of create monster catches fire and burns! 04:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:46227 04:05 I don't think I've ever had fireband outside wizmode 04:06 then again, I don't artifact wish (I dunno why, I just find it kinda ... immersive breaking) 04:06 I found this one on the floor in VotD... ...then a few steps later, I found Vorpal Blade next to the altar - almost thought there were bonez somewhere 04:07 I've seen Grayswandir in a shop before 04:07 Also Mjollnir in a shop 04:09 -!- eady has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh4] oRan1 (disbtopia) (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 11068 points, T:680, killed by a giant mimic 04:15 got slimed by green slime - throw Fire Brand up ^^ 04:16 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 04:17 one of my pre-first-ascension games, I stayed up too late and wasn't paying attention and ate green slime (thinking it was slime mold) - that ended the game a couple levels down from VotD 04:20 [hdf-us] [nh4] eWiz1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 11741 points, T:716, killed by a jackal 04:26 !who 04:26 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 [nh362] disbtopia [nh4] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 04:36 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 04:36 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 572353 points, T:47037, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 04:45 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:45 !seen ais523 04:46 last seen 2d20h 04:47 petrification is basically like cryostatis 04:57 less energy demanding but the reanimation process is more involved :-) 05:00 :) 05:01 -!- OmNyomNyom has joined #hardfought 05:02 [hdf-us] [nh4] nBarb1 (disbtopia) (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 25335 points, T:2065, killed by a dwarf 05:11 -!- OmNyomNyom has left #hardfought 05:12 -!- OmNyomNyom has joined #hardfought 05:33 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:50 This ice troll corpse tastes okay. [....] You wake up. 05:51 I feel like that was a vanilla bug from ages ago. Wonder if evilhack has regressed it somehow. 07:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 07:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 07:20 [hdf-us] [nh4] oB1 (disbtopia) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 38746 points, T:6782, killed by a gnome king 07:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:23 [hdf-us] [slex] ZlojSerge (Ele Red Mal Cha), 1229 points, T:1410, quit 07:31 [hdf-us] [nh4] dValk1 (disbtopia) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4165 points, T:51, killed by a water demon 07:33 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] cRog1 (disbtopia) (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 26708 points, T:1587, killed by a giant ant 07:51 oh, spork crashed throwing a boomerang 07:53 one could say 'that backfired' ha ha. 07:54 <{Demo}1> :( 07:54 my own fault, I did seem to remember a boomerang bug from way back 07:54 <{Demo}1> why lorimer not fix? 07:54 {Demo}1, can make an issue for nodehack regarding detection of timeouted/aborted ssh session? 07:55 i think i now understood how to trap signals and delegate signal handling 07:55 <{Demo}1> no I'm so tired I woke up 2 hrs earlier than usual and now I have to eat and go to work and die but maybe later idk 07:55 well not now, yeah 07:56 ok 07:56 have a coffee then 08:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2216 08:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5565 points, T:4119, killed by a dwarf king 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:18713 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:18714 09:04 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:07 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:3972 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 388 points, T:1455, killed by a tiger 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1621 points, T:2282, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 09:28 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 09:29 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the ghost of m, the former Barbarian, on T:5148 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 609 points, T:1133, killed by a gas spore's explosion 09:38 this 343 archeologist game has been fun for a game I started by accident 09:40 got grayswandir from raisse's bones, just stopped wearing body armour to save weight because I haven't found a bag of holding yet 09:40 lol a jewellery shop run by a nymph 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 392 points, T:744, killed by a dwarf 09:41 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 91 points, T:265, killed by a falling rock 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 94 points, T:508, killed by a bear trap 10:01 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1200 points, T:2550, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted soldier ant 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:1878 10:14 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:8604 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 530 points, T:3224, killed by the wrath of Thoth 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1146 points, T:1185, killed by a soldier ant 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:21449 10:52 -!- oh6 has quit [Disconnected by services] 10:53 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 11:02 by a what? 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1861 points, T:1650, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:5 11:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:16 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 11:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3373 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:30317 11:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:39526 11:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor in the End Game, on T:39528 11:42 elenmirie_, by a h� 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:8727 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3616 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6701 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11652 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:6132 12:20 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:21 -!- wvc_ has joined #hardfought 12:24 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:12142 12:30 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 20550 points, T:9764, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 12:33 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: stealing from shopkeepers] 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh4] oRan1 (disbtopia) (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 31698 points, T:3379, killed by a rothe 12:35 -!- OmNyomNyom has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:40 -!- stenno is now known as stennowork 12:40 -!- stennowork is now known as stenno 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3743 points, T:8022, killed by a bolt of fire 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] gallery (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62356 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] gallery (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62357 12:51 <{Demo}1> dip a magic marker in a potion of booze 13:14 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] gallery (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:62486 13:17 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 8784 points, T:3931, killed by a soldier ant 13:19 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 13:21 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 699 points, T:1026, killed by a little dart 13:24 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 2790 points, T:414, killed by a force bolt 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 580 points, T:1474, killed by an orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:31 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:13674 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3974 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 496 points, T:1216, killed by a dwarf 13:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:40 -!- Frederic has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:41 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 13:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:44 -!- Frederic has quit [Client Quit] 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh4] hPri2 (disbtopia) (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 30598 points, T:2962, killed by a dwarf lord 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:6176 14:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:04 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:07 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 14:10 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1224 points, T:2748, killed by a giant spider 14:11 I angered the lady last night by accidently saccing a wererat corpse 14:11 I had been so careful up to that point as well 14:13 And now she doesn't seem to want to let it go 14:13 done similar myself. curse the werefoo 14:14 On the plus side I level drained myself back to level 1 and got 10 more ac than I had before 14:15 on the downside, you're now level 1 14:15 Your sacrifice is consumed in a burst of flame! You have a feeling of inadequacy. 14:15 corpse isn't high enough value 14:15 x100 14:16 Not a huge concern but probably won't be getting magicbane anytime soon 14:16 Or anymore spellbooks until she's satisfied 14:17 do you have a luckstone? 14:17 yah 14:17 is it bagged? 14:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:17 no 14:18 you lost 5 luck, so if you think you're negative now you need to bag it 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3735 14:23 <@luxidream> jonathanhanes: you need to sacrifice corpses of high enough difficulty 14:23 <@luxidream> if it’s too low level it literally won’t do anything 14:24 you have a feeling of inadequacy 14:25 <@luxidream> oh you said that already 14:25 <@luxidream> nvm 14:26 <{Demo}1> where were you on turn 118k? 14:27 Thanks guys 14:28 The Lady seems slightly mollified. 14:28 No idea demo 14:28 yay! 14:29 <{Demo}1> "The lurker above swallows the invisible master lich of Amaterasu Omikami. "Burrrrp!" "The lurker above doesn't seem to harm the invisible master lich of Amaterasu Omikami. The invisible master lich of Amaterasu Omikami is regurgitated!" whoa slashem, good work 14:29 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:29 <@luxidream> What’s the lawful god doing sending liches 14:30 it started as something else i think 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5394 14:32 can a gnome zombie get out of a broken iron chest that has a boulder on it? let's find out 14:32 it can 14:32 <{Demo}1> wait they can get out of chests? 14:32 <{Demo}1> what 14:33 it's not locked 14:33 so yes 14:33 stupid pet picked up a zombie corpse and dropped it next to me 14:33 k2 had that fixed at one point but it's crept back in 14:36 <{Demo}1> last demon lord dead 14:36 <{Demo}1> we cleared em all, no bribes, yeehaw 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had a pair of jackboots entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:9164 14:39 well who doesn't want jackboots 14:39 people who have speed boots, or water walking boots? 14:40 well they're from god 14:40 so they're blessed +5 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9465 points, T:6598, quit 14:40 i'm currently wearing very burnt +0 speed boots 14:40 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:41 <{Demo}1> id use the speedies 14:41 the gnomish wizards in evilhack minetown always know fireball and cone of cold and are quite willing to use them 14:42 -!- noty has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:42 which would you wear, burnt +0 cloak of magic resistance or +0 dragonhide dwarvish cloak 14:43 swing of 8 ac 14:43 <{Demo}1> zoinks 14:43 <{Demo}1> yeah thats a big diff 14:43 probably the mr until I had another source of it at least 14:43 <{Demo}1> id go for the dhide while lower 14:44 <{Demo}1> but when you get near polytraps and monsters that spawn with attack wands, eek 14:44 right now i'm wearing dragonhide because i haven't been below dl6 or minetown 14:44 i've started to see elves though 14:45 i was hoping those boots would be magicbane :( 14:46 but, evilhack 14:46 <{Demo}1> boots of magicbane? 14:46 yes please 14:46 <{Demo}1> oh dragonhide 14:47 <{Demo}1> same word basically 14:47 no i wanted magicbane not boots of any kind at all 14:47 <{Demo}1> oh :( 14:47 i'm a wizard. i should have magicbane but evilhack gods are not nice 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:34994 14:47 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34996 14:47 i got an elven dagger (i'm an orc) and these boots 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:35020 14:48 <{Demo}1> oh i thought u meant the elf boots from the elves 14:48 i have some of those. ribbed a corpse 14:48 er 14:48 robbed 14:49 <{Demo}1> but they arent dragonhide (or magicbane) 14:50 right. not to mention that evilhack has benefits for racial equipment and detriments for grudged race's equipment 14:50 orcs lose luck for using mithril, iirc 14:51 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:51 <{Demo}1> orcs cant heal if wearing mithril 14:51 i avoid it so i didn't know that 14:52 when i play wizard i never fall into the trap of wearing mithril 14:52 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 14:52 i consider it a trap, anyway 14:53 <{Demo}1> it is 14:53 <{Demo}1> it really shouldnt hinder 14:54 as a wizard i look for studded leather and that's my armour until i get some sdsm 14:54 yes, me too 14:54 any spellcaster really, healers and priests too 14:55 yeah ecept for those i probably would get gdsm 14:55 not probably. definitely 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 170 points, T:1420, killed by a bat, while sleeping 14:55 my pets are part of conspiracy to get me killed... 14:55 same with a tourist because my tourists are spellcasters 14:56 <{Demo}1> [slshm] Demo (Sam Hum Mal Law) has entered the planes on turn 121417 (i want livelogs ok..) 14:57 no wait, it's not tourists. what role am i thinking of? 14:58 most of my tourists are spellcasters too 14:58 ah, arcs 14:58 yes, and arcs 14:58 I had one tourist who was a better spellcaster than most orcish wizards 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a red mold, on T:14071 14:58 ouch 14:58 <--- orcish wizard 14:59 <{Demo}1> hmm gonna get some use out of the random +4 ring of inc dmg i found 14:59 but my arcs wear mithril all the time, they don't cast until the later game 15:00 <{Demo}1> should the plane of air make flame based things burn turbo fast? 15:00 <{Demo}1> and bright 15:00 nah, it'd blow them out 15:01 <{Demo}1> so much oxygen so much BURN 15:01 why is there more oxygen there? 15:02 yeah wouldn't it just be like a normal atmospheric composition 15:02 the air on the plane of air doesn't necessarily contain more oxygen than normal air 15:02 even though the elementals are more powerful 15:02 <{Demo}1> maybe 15:03 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:36248 15:05 the plane of air is fully lit anyway isn't it 15:07 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:26742 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 123082 points, T:14559, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:13 odd, no announcement 15:15 <{Demo}1> fell through from water to astral without any of minions 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:36451 15:16 * NCommander just removed L from his game 15:16 sadly I ate a tengu and didn't get teleport control but got teleportitis :/ 15:17 Kudos for trying though. All the cool kids eat the tengu roulette. 15:18 <{Demo}1> man i love slashem 15:18 well I'm a Monk so if I can reach L:17, I'll get teleport control 15:18 <{Demo}1> dps can be reduced by orders of magnitude but i can still mow down astral 15:19 You have used a wielded weapon 3 times, starting on turn 16209. 15:19 argh 15:19 :( 15:19 <{Demo}1> dywpi 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh4] dValky1 (disbtopia) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 45198 points, T:5557, killed by a Woodland-elf 15:19 {Demo}1, no, I'll keep going 15:20 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Dol Ang Fem Cha) averted death, on T:2048 15:20 <{Demo}1> no i meant me 15:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] Demo (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3962752 points, T:122323, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/slashem/dumplog/1556320038.slashem.txt 15:20 !gt @ 15:21 yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! go team Demo!!! :) 15:22 now ascend slex 15:22 You finish eating the tengu corpse. You feel in control of yourself. 15:22 and be written into nethack legend forever 15:22 problem solved You finish eating the tengu corpse. You feel in control of yourself. 15:22 <{Demo}1> why would i try to do that? 15:23 maybe you're feeling masochistic today? 15:23 {Demo}1: play a yautja in slex! *bundlebundlebundlebundlebundle* ♥ 15:23 <{Demo}1> theres a difference between playing slex and trying to ascend slex 15:23 i just walked into a minetown shop and all of the items are mimics 15:23 <{Demo}1> never have i played a game of slex with any intent to try to ascend 15:24 i just can't play a game without trying to win :v 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:36664 15:25 <{Demo}1> yeah u can 15:25 * LarienTelrunya wants to watch someone play slex with the new roles I added 15:26 <{Demo}1> imagine playing pokemon but only playing it to catch a max IV/EV/whatevridk how that works caterpie and never intending to challenge the elite 4 15:28 <@luxidream> just breed for one 15:29 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:31 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 15:36 <{Demo}1> ok fine but you could still be playing the game without intending to ever win if you were just playing it for the breeding mechanic 15:36 <{Demo}1> slex is the same 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] hPr3 (disbtopia) (Pri Hum Fem Law), 20412 points, T:1150, killed by a small mimic, while fainted from lack of food 15:37 the closest i come to doing that in nethack is when i do my goofy DFVs 15:38 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) defeated Croesus, on T:17224 15:39 and even then i feel a little disappointed unless i die in some ridiculous and typical way 15:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:37389 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:37390 15:41 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of telepathy", on T:37396 15:48 does slex have any breeding mechanics? 15:49 <@luxidream> I feel like it would have alien pregnancy from elona 15:49 <@luxidream> can amy confirm/deny 15:49 well slex has pokemon 15:49 so it should have pokemon breeding 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18805 15:50 <@luxidream> but pokemon don't have IVs/EVs/held items/moves 15:50 <@luxidream> @?sylveon 15:50 sylveon ~3~ wyvern (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 20 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Attacks: 4d6 breath drain str, 3d8 bite physical, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical | Alignment: 6 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis, poisonous 15:50 <@luxidream> @?jolteon 15:50 No such monster. 15:50 <@luxidream> @?eevee 15:50 eevee ~3~ raven (B) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 20 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 1d6 bite physical, 1d6 claw blind | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, infravisible 15:51 <@luxidream> @?le eevee 15:51 No such monster. 15:51 <@luxidream> @Le?jolteon 15:51 <@luxidream> @Le?jolteon 15:51 <@luxidream> @Le ?jolteon 15:51 so watch all that stuff get added in the next slex update :p 15:52 <@luxidream> it keeps pinging this person named "Le" 15:52 <@luxidream> instead of sending the command 15:52 @le?jolteon 15:52 jolteon (r) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 16 | Res: shock | Confers: shock | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d14 bite shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 15:52 maybe don't capitalize it 15:52 <@luxidream> it autocapitalizes 15:52 <@luxidream> I'm typing it in lowercase 15:52 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> just retype it 15:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 325 points, T:1148, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:53 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> prob some discord gibberish for easy @ing 15:53 <@luxidream> @Le?sylveon 15:53 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> @Le?sylveon 15:53 <@luxidream> @Le?sylveon 15:53 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> WAH 15:53 come on lux you can do this 15:53 <@luxidream> it's impossible 15:53 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> i cant do it either 15:53 <@luxidream> I'm heading to IRC 15:53 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> @Le?sylveon] 15:53 <@Pavel> @le?sylveon 15:53 sylveon (r) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 12 | Res: magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -4 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d25 bite random breath | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 15:53 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> impossible 15:53 rekt 15:54 see pavel can do it 15:54 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 15:54 now what's your excuse 15:54 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> ||@Le?sylveon|| 15:54 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> atleast i tried 15:54 <@luxidream> @le?sylveon 15:54 sylveon (r) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 12 | Res: magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -4 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d25 bite random breath | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 15:54 <@luxidream> @le?sylveon 15:54 sylveon (r) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 12 | Res: magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -4 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d25 bite random breath | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 15:54 <@luxidream> got em 15:54 thanks pavel 15:55 o7 15:55 also tfw rodent 15:55 these things are clearly foxes 15:55 yeah 15:55 should definitely be d 15:55 LarienTelrunya explain 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Gaelan (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2792 points, T:2528, killed by a Mordor orc 15:56 for me the eevee-line pokemon clearly look like hares or rabbits :P 15:57 @le?bunnelby 15:57 No such monster. 15:57 for me LarienTelrunya is clearly blind 15:57 lopunny too 15:57 @le?eevee 15:57 eevee (r) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 7 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d8 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 15:57 Does eevee actually evolve? 15:57 yeah into like seven things 15:57 I think it has an evolution set per game 15:57 in slex 15:58 but what about alien pregnancy LarienTelrunya 15:58 nah, I do really like elona but slex doesn't have that form of pregnancy 15:58 "that form" of pregnancy? 15:59 so wait slex has real pregnancy? 15:59 implying slex has other kinds of pregnancy? 15:59 well of course it does, if you have intercourse with foocubi 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:28479 15:59 it's a hacky way: it generates an egg of either you or the foocubus, which hatches immediately :D 15:59 if you're a male character does the succubus come back looking for child support 16:00 wow, you don't even have to be burdened for a few thousand turns? 16:00 talk about unrealistic 16:00 Now because this is Slex, I assume there's at least 10 different kinds of foocubus 16:02 does pregnancy also occur with same-sex intercourse for game balance purposes? 16:03 yeah 16:03 <@luxidream> 👍 16:03 holy cow 16:03 finally 16:03 <{Demo}1> "game balance purposes" definitely not strange fetishes 16:03 well demo 16:03 if it didn't happen 16:03 then it would be strictly better not to be gay 16:03 we can't have that 16:04 T:250236 I find my first magic lamp 16:04 i-is that a game option in slex? 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:250238 16:04 AND MAGICBANE 16:04 > 250000 turns 16:05 Luck be a lady tonight 16:05 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 16:05 so do both kinds of foocubi show up in slex 16:05 in every game i mean 16:06 what do you mean with "both kinds" 16:06 * NCommander got all 9 points of protection 16:06 slex has tons of foocubi... 16:06 my monk is less squishy \o/ 16:06 ... 16:06 I think he means both genders 16:07 yeah 16:07 unless there are nonbinary foocubi that are either indifferent or indiscriminate 16:08 there are foocubi whose gender is randomly determined when they spawn! 16:08 how does that make it any different though 16:08 of course there are 16:09 or does the player not know until they try to chat 16:09 it's slex, it doesn't have to be different, it's just there :P 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:7822 16:11 > Palim-Palim PavelB, welcome to SlashTHEM Extended! You are a lawful male angbander aquarian curser haxor homicider suxxor warper randomizer null mazewalker 16:11 soviet x-race heretic sokosolver specialist american minimalist nastinator rougelike segfaulter ironman amnesiac problematic windinhabitant aggravator 16:11 evilvariant levelscaler erosator roommate extravator addicted Acid Mage.--More-- 16:11 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:8011 16:11 hahaha 16:11 lol 'palim-palim' 16:11 angbander is a race/class in slex? 16:11 lol you really picked all the hybrid races? 16:12 NCommander: yeah it's a race 16:12 Yes 16:12 wait you can pick more than one? 16:12 Yeah 16:12 of course you can! 16:12 LarienTelrunya, what does that do? 16:12 LarienTelrunya: At no point was I prompted for my sexual orientation, how do I see what I got 16:12 NCommander: level feelings :D 16:12 PavelB: you don't; you decide when you first encounter a foocubus 16:12 ctrl+x will probably break the game 16:13 It didn't fit in my terminal 16:13 But it didn't break 16:13 ok 16:13 LarienTelrunya, you feel like you're in mortal peril 16:13 inb4 it breaks the map an you can't tell what's happening 16:13 > Tvoi tovari hotjat tebja identifitsirovat? DYWYPI? [da] [ynq] (n) 16:13 ...the heck 16:13 NCommander: why? 16:13 LarienTelrunya, cause it's slex 16:13 LarienTelrunya: I rate your Russian translation 3/10 16:14 PavelB: hahaha it's google translate! 16:14 Tvoi tovari hotjat tebja identifitsirovat? Do your wares want to identify you? 16:14 haha 16:14 that's correct though 16:14 google translate is actually not complete hot trash anymore 16:14 sadly 16:15 <{Demo}1> there evidence of slex being involved in russian collusion 16:16 just when i thought slex couldn't get more diabolical 16:17 I discovered fourk unicorns work like SLASH'EM and distigrate 16:17 :( 16:18 they actually don't exactly work like slex unihorns; in slex, they don't always degrade on every single stat restore and also don't restore stats unless all status effects are gone 16:18 I think they disenchant in fourk 16:18 therefore slex unihorns >> fourk ones :P 16:18 whenever they restore stats 16:18 very annoying because no one cares about stats 16:18 the unnethack solution is better imo 16:19 LarienTelrunya: How do you reccomend a new SLEX player to play? 16:19 (Presumably not with every hybrid race) 16:19 ~~by playing a different variant~~ 16:20 PavelB: hmm I guess I'd recommend playing a vanilla role, e.g. barbarian or monk, and pair it with the angel race probably? everyone plays the angel race :P 16:20 Are any of those hybrid races particularly advantageous 16:20 and yeah, I'd not start with hybrid races as a new player 16:20 Ah 16:21 no, they're mainly special game modes actually, e.g. aquarian gets lots of rivers everywhere 16:21 of course if you want to feel the true insanity of slex, pick the ironman hybrid race :D 16:21 oof 16:21 amy you should put xom in slex 16:21 it's a perfect fit 16:21 xom? 16:21 Luxidream: he exists as a random god name, but doesn't do anything special 16:22 crawl god, when you worship him, he inflicts random events on you periodically, ranging from amazing random gifts to sending you to the abyss 16:22 ah 16:22 right 16:23 DCSS is one of those games with a lot of BS 16:23 kinda like slex 16:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:916 16:23 it has some BS 16:23 mostly on the first few floors 16:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2496 points, T:935, killed by a freezing sphere 16:23 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/542051818423713832/547308393728311340/unknown.png 16:24 ^my Xom experience 16:24 nice rng 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) had war hammer named Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:29339 16:24 StatueSurfer, I need to try DCSS 16:24 oh6, ouch 16:25 DCSS is really straightforward 16:25 it's 99% tactics 16:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:25 of course this means you can flub a few inputs and die 16:25 jonadab and amy were talking about it the other day 16:26 yeah that's where I've been for the past couple months 16:26 Luxidream, yeah, that's the impression I got from reading about DCSS 16:26 You're not going to YASD due to hard to understand game mechanics, but tactics are everything, similar to angband 16:26 it's really short compared to nethack too if you do 3 rune 16:26 (standard win) 16:28 but def a good game if you want a break from nh 16:28 I've read the wiki for it 16:28 now I just need to remember how to play nethack again 16:28 Maybe I can bribe K2/Tangles to put it on the server :) 16:29 haha, they have nice servers already 16:29 Luxidream, you're on a quest to get the amulet. You are likely to died horribly. 16:29 they're ahead of us on that regard 16:29 Luxidream, I like my rogue like communities centralized ;) 16:29 Luxidream, I keep meaning to give ADOM a serious go but it needs a full sized keyboard which is :( 16:29 no vikeys in adom? 16:29 (I've never played it) 16:30 I don't think K2 is all for hosting not-nethack given we don't have PRIME and PRIME doesn't even have servers 16:30 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:31 we do have PRIME, kind of :P slex implemented all 15 PRIME roles and they do actually have to play through the ZAPM branch before they can go to the regular dungeon 16:31 PavelB, we have ZAPM, and when I find the effort to finish fixing up rogue 16:31 the existing crawl servers have sick tiles 16:31 use that 16:31 Luxidream, no, and it uses so many keys it's really awkward to remap 16:31 (not impossible, but awkward) 16:31 tbh PRIME with its virus mechanics gives me nightmares 16:31 does anyone actually still play PRIME though 16:32 I do, sometimes 16:32 tbh i have been thinking about adding some per-player config to zapm 16:32 mainly so i can enable line of sight, vi keys without configuring at the beginning of every new game 16:32 Though, I stopped since I deleted it on accident once and never got around to rebuilding it 16:32 .zapmrc would be nice. 16:32 <{Demo}1> I agree 16:32 And shouldn't hjklyubn be on by _default_? 16:32 <{Demo}1> would be nice 16:33 tbh i've been sort of avoiding making changes to make zapm more multi-user friendly because it's not really secure in a multi-user env unless done right 16:33 I only migrated to vi-keys when I started playing mostly exclusively on laptop 16:33 * NCommander started NH for years on numpad 16:33 I'm with K2 on this one 16:33 get a laptop with a numpad 16:33 :p 16:33 it's a big pile of really bad C++ with its own handrolled vector class that has weird semantics... and i really don't trust there to be many exploits hidden in there 16:33 Does numpad support even work in ZAPM though? 16:33 * LarienTelrunya plays on a laptop and had to get an extra keyboard with a numpad because playing without a numpad is just flat out impossible :P 16:33 I thought it didn't. 16:34 <{Demo}1> I have a numpad but it hurts my wrist more 16:34 how did I play zapm then 16:34 that one year 16:34 hmm. 16:34 u can play on hf 16:34 it has to be have been there 16:34 winny: are you the zapm dev? 16:34 I mean, numpad support 16:34 LarienTelrunya, I actually play nethack on my phone from time to time. Thats an exciting thing to do 16:34 stenno: no, i just have a fork with some very minor fixes 16:34 stenno: Don't ask, just tell him that he is now. 16:34 phone is a conduct tbh 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1675 points, T:3947, killed by a wolf 16:34 lol! 16:35 like exploding barrel segfault fix 16:35 I think it took me 8 hours to ascend on mobile 16:35 lol 16:35 playing on HF on a phone is an uber conduct 16:35 playing nethack on a phone is a crapshoot because of the savegame errors that erase the game :P 16:35 Luxidream, most of my ascending games take 2-5 days RL time 16:35 NCommander: how many of your nethack games on the phone got eaten by that stupid bug? 16:35 I don't play super fast 16:35 LarienTelrunya, never happened. 16:35 just don't use inethack2 16:35 that one is particularly bad 16:35 I have an old build on 3.4.3 on it 16:35 tbh i want to tear out zapm's terrible bad-semantic-hand-rolled vector class, but i tried, and std::vector<> is not a drop in replacement 16:35 Which I cimpiled from source and apk installed 16:36 also i kinda hate C++ so i only focus on the important fixes 16:36 * NCommander also hates C++ o/ 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2984 points, T:11526, killed by a soldier ant 16:36 (i absolutely love zapm though) 16:36 oh its written in c++ lol 16:36 yeah 16:36 I don't mind C, although NetHack's source is more like reading a C dialect from ages long past 16:36 If I ever write my own roguelike I'll probably be cheap and use Python 16:37 :) 16:37 NetHack's source is more like reading a C dialect from ages long past 16:37 ^ maybe it's because the source is just that :P 16:37 stenno, well NH4's code base cleaned it up more 16:38 * NCommander needs to get breakfast and head to a doctor's appointment 16:38 is nh4 c89? 16:38 <{Demo}1> right a roguelike in rust 16:38 https://github.com/winny-/ZAPM-mirror/blob/master/Util.h#L34 <- the handrolled vector class 16:39 winny: please patch vt_tiledata in lol 16:39 that'd be hilarious 16:39 lol, tell me more about what shoul be patched 16:39 hah fair 16:40 -!- Joonaa- has joined #hardfought 16:41 I mean, the obvious thing would be xlogfile. 16:41 So it could participate in tournaments. 16:41 that would be a nice feature 16:42 jonadab, I'm planning on doing that for actual rogue 16:42 is it really a nethack variant? 16:42 NCommander: Nice. 16:42 probably as a nod to devnull :) 16:43 Luxidream, more like NetHack is a variant of rogue (abiet withotu sharing code) 16:43 I also have a building copy of Hack 16:43 more like pathos and nethack, I suppose 16:43 -!- Joonaa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:44 I don't know how I'd feel about putting more trophies behind it but I know some people like it more than me so 16:44 -!- Joonaa- is now known as Joonaa 16:46 but zapm is really not a nh variant either :) 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] ePr3 (disbtopia) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 35752 points, T:3505, killed by a dwarf lord 16:48 NH4 scores are screwy 16:49 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:49 I think I used about 8 ?oEW to get that saber to +7 16:50 I need to look at the fourk code and figure out how unihorns work 16:50 -!- OmNyomNyom has joined #hardfought 16:51 anyway, off to the doctors 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5710 points, T:3582, killed by a chameleon imitating an energy vortex 16:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:59 NCommander: Hack was really a _clone_ of Rogue. 16:59 NetHack is of course a variant of Hack. 17:00 where do you draw the line between clone and variant? 17:02 presumably a variant actually *varies* the gameplay somewhat 17:04 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:04 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:37600 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 17:19 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "ring of conflict", on T:38076 17:28 also, hack was a clone because the author didn't have the rogue source code. They basically made an imitation of it 17:28 at least i think that's what happened. i could be wrong 17:29 started from scratch and made the first "roguelike" 17:29 whereas nethack etc are variants of hack because they used hack and changed it 17:34 <{Demo}1> is hack hack a thing? 17:34 <{Demo}1> hack squared 17:34 <{Demo}1> something that would make the name of the heck squared patch make sense 17:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:38 <{Demo}1> they call me the minotaur mincer 17:44 <{Demo}1> dammit i got demo :( 17:47 <{Demo}1> damn i got baalphegor 17:47 <{Demo}1> even worse than demo in some ways 17:50 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:78660 17:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Glasya, on T:51853 18:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52186 18:02 <{Demo}1> hmm he didnt grab his book 18:03 <{Demo}1> oh hmm i have 58 cursed potions of gain level in my magic chest, thats neat 18:04 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> potion express, directly to the planes, tchoo tchoo 18:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) wished for "7 blessed wax candles", on T:52307 18:08 <{Demo}1> oh fuck me 18:08 <{Demo}1> i already had candles in the candelabrum 18:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:52311 18:09 <{Demo}1> yikes, a cthulhu horror 18:10 <{Demo}1> drains brains, wants amulet, 18:13 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:52459 18:17 <{Demo}1> time to ride the asc run express 18:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:52563 18:23 just back from playing quiz league - for the first time in history, my knowledge of nethack got my team two points. Answers were beholder and Demogorgon. 18:23 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Hum Fem Cha), 192 points, T:929, killed by a kobold, while fainted from lack of food 18:23 bwahahaha 18:23 <{Demo}1> ill tell u both beholder and i have been up to no good 18:23 <{Demo}1> !booze 18:23 * Beholder pours {Demo}1 a esky of cafe latte, replicated by Athame at 121 degrees Fahrenheit. 18:23 the questions were about D&D monsters, but the knowledge transferred :) 18:24 erm, Beholder, that's not booze. 18:24 !beer 18:24 elenmirie_: I thought you'd never ask! 18:24 !prosecco 18:24 philistine. 18:28 !tell Tangles Please to add response to Beholder to !prosecco, "It's how classy people get shitfaced" 18:28 I'm on it, elenmirie_. 18:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:52782 18:28 go {Demo}1!!! 18:28 Tourist Incantifier, wow 18:30 <{Demo}1> fucking astral crash 18:30 ouch 18:30 <{Demo}1> its probably fine 18:31 <{Demo}1> something i should look into in ndnh 18:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) destroyed Famine, on T:52799 18:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) destroyed Death, on T:52846 18:35 back in business 18:37 tourist incantifier is THE role to play 18:37 It's what all of the cool kids do 18:37 or so they tell me 18:37 I'm not cool yet 18:37 unfortunately, I've never been one of the cool kids 18:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu) wished for "magic chest", on T:52879 18:38 -!- Frederic has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:38 My problem with dnethack is that I always end up trying to do everything 18:38 grats! 18:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Tou Inc Fem Neu), 12560248 points, T:52881, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/dnethack/dumplog/1544473594.dnh.txt 18:38 nice 18:38 gratz demo 18:38 !booze demo 18:38 * Beholder tosses demo a vial of monster detection, conjured by the late Pinobot at 38 degrees Fahrenheit. 18:38 <{Demo}1> 2 ascensions in one day lol 18:38 !beer {Demo}1 18:38 elenmirie_: I thought you'd never ask! 18:39 did you? what else did you ascend? 18:39 <{Demo}1> slashem 18:39 that would be slashem, not slex :D 18:39 <{Demo}1> yes 18:39 congrats! 18:40 !pizza everyone 18:40 <{Demo}1> should i go for one more? 18:40 !food everyone 18:40 dammit 18:40 !gift everyone 18:40 !goat everyone 18:40 elenmirie_'s goat runs up and kicks everyone in the face! Baaaaaa! 18:40 heh 18:40 yes, one more, you can do it! 18:40 <{Demo}1> i have a 343 game standing on the vibe square 18:41 ooh 18:41 it's like the last day of Junenethack in May! 18:41 <{Demo}1> ehhh im not feeling it 18:41 *junethack I can't spell 18:41 stop being a diva 18:42 <{Demo}1> that char is kind of weak to be on that square 18:42 it's 3.4.3, what could possibly go wrong? 18:42 easy peasy 18:42 <{Demo}1> i need to do the boring stuff like making scrolls 18:42 <{Demo}1> i hate that 18:42 oh, yeah, I know what you mean 18:42 <{Demo}1> the dnh game i slammed had been sitting waiting to ascend for a long time 18:43 <{Demo}1> to the point it had 58 cursed !ogl 18:43 I seldom ascend games that sit... I forget what resources I've got, where I left stuff etc and end up splatting 18:44 <{Demo}1> did you see my fireball spell? 18:45 no 18:45 <{Demo}1> that char was just short of maxed out dnh spellcaster 18:45 I got the terminal size sorted out just in time to see you ascend 18:45 <{Demo}1> 5x5 fuckloads of fireballs everywhere wiping out all of the priests and angels in astral 18:45 hahaha 18:45 <{Demo}1> the crash was a pain though 18:46 <{Demo}1> would have been a grand tour if it werent for the crash 18:46 well, at least it wasn't fatal 18:46 <{Demo}1> slashem earlier was a grand tour as well 18:46 <{Demo}1> yeah no the drow darkness caused it 18:46 <{Demo}1> dnh has autorecover so usually crashes arent a big deal 18:46 right 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 3853 points, T:4370, killed by a watch captain 18:48 g'night all! I'd better be off to bed or I'll be worth nothing tomorrow 18:52 gnight 18:53 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: stealing from shopkeepers] 19:00 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4214 19:02 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Hum Fem Cha), 1337 points, T:1718, killed by a magic missile 19:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1298 points, T:2141, killed by a dwarf 19:05 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 669 points, T:1562, killed by a rothe 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 10634 points, T:9502, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while reading a book 19:42 that's really not fair, although i don't think that's exclusive to evilhack 19:42 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 215 points, T:726, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 19:43 maybe it is. istr spellbook reading being interrupted under other circumstances 19:44 then again i recall dying to something because i was reading a book. hmmm. 19:44 i bet i was paralyzed due to reading above my grade 19:44 !lastgame 19:44 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nutterbutter/unnethack/dumplog/1556840340.un.txt.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nh361/dumplog/1556831990.nh361.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/nh361/dumplog/1555659711.nh361.txt 19:44 shouldn't it say you were paralyzed in the death message 19:45 !lastgame hothraxxa 19:45 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/evilhack/dumplog/1556748389.evil.txt 19:45 damn, that was it. yasd 19:46 * hothraxxa puts a brown paper bag over his head 19:46 don't read books in the middle of a zombie apocalypse kids 19:47 i didn't think that through 19:48 it's especially painful because evilhack 19:48 not easy to get that far 19:48 well it's called evilhack 19:49 i would not assume that's because it's uh 19:49 easy 19:49 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 195 points, T:636, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 19:50 k2 set out to make it the hardest and i think he succeeded 19:50 i am not counting slex 19:51 i hope tariru returns for junethack and shows everyone how it's done 19:55 "You feel smart! You feel wise!" 19:55 is that what you call it when you drink un-ID'd potions and luck into enlightenment...? 19:58 * NCommander returns 20:00 * NCommander "loves" doctor visits 20:01 hothraxxa, evilhack's early game is fun. After playing it for awhile, I've gotten so much better at the vanilla early game :) 20:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4229 20:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 6634 points, T:4246, poisoned by a rotted human corpse, while helpless 20:06 NCommander: Yes, after doing some of ais523's sokoban-generator's evil diagonaloban levels, I find normal Sokoban much easier. 20:08 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:80339 20:08 w00t, ring of conflict 20:08 Ascension kit is one more step closer to completion 20:09 man who's going around burying glass in the walls of the mines 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4173 20:15 yay 20:19 geeze, I nearly got 100 HP max increase from a single nurse dance 20:19 wow 20:20 they must've really liked you ;) 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 321 points, T:899, killed by an iguana, while praying 20:24 rip 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:4 20:26 FINALLY found my first wand of digging 20:26 also got red dragon scales 20:31 ... this is an odd special level 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:2329 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 175 points, T:321, killed by a goblin 20:35 a... library level? 20:35 yeah 20:35 It's a replacement variant for the castle 20:35 just checked the source 20:35 ah 20:35 i thought it looked like the castle 20:41 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 20:41 The arch-lich turns into a dog! 20:42 my cat just ate a chameleon corpse and turned into a hell hound pup 20:42 which was certainly a welcome turn of events 20:42 <{Demo}1> upgraded 20:44 "You consume pureed human." 20:44 there's a sentence that could get you in trouble 20:47 well that's a stupid amount of books and scrolls 20:49 I need a silver dragon to appear 20:49 * StatueSurfer summons silver dragon 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4351 20:52 <{Demo}1> more like a silver wagon 20:52 <{Demo}1> cause u can throw a saddle on it and ride around 20:56 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:56 Hot diggy damn 20:56 Three magic markers and a scroll of wishing for castle loot beside the million and one spellbooks 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8492 points, T:5305, killed by a hill orc called Othaiz of Haiogruk 20:57 <{Demo}1> the Kenneth Arnold memorial library? 20:58 {Demo}1, yeah 20:58 {Demo}1, first spellbook was identify which I could cast at %0 with a robe 20:59 I need to decide if I'm going to armor up my monk 20:59 <{Demo}1> dont forget to make sure the scroll isnt cursed 20:59 <{Demo}1> cause if it is, lol 20:59 {Demo}1, it's uncursed, does it matter if I bless it? 21:00 <{Demo}1> i cant recall 21:00 <{Demo}1> it might 21:00 <{Demo}1> yes it does 21:00 <{Demo}1> it is turboop blessed 21:00 <{Demo}1> look at the spoilers 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3061 21:00 {Demo}1, which spoilers? the ones I have just list the items 21:01 <{Demo}1> you can get gooder enchants ??? and quantities with blessed 21:01 <{Demo}1> not sure 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1249 points, T:3239, killed by a burning scroll, while sleeping off a magical draught 21:01 <{Demo}1> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Scroll_of_wishing 21:02 Yeah if you bless that you can even wish for stuff like magic lamps. 21:02 Tangles: Message from elenmirie_ at 2019-05-02 18:28 EDT: Please to add response to Beholder to !prosecco, "It's how classy people get shitfaced" 21:02 lol 21:04 NCommander: are you still playing fourk? 21:05 hothraxxa, took a five minute break, mulling how to use that scroll of wishing 21:05 hothraxxa, I sorta want gray dragon armor, I'm getting unlucky with the drops. 21:05 -!- tonehack has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05 I have red scales, but I also don't know if my monk will be actually able to hit anything 21:06 ok. my monk in fourk could not hit reliably wearing body armour even with max luck, max dex, and master 21:06 hit maybe 75% 21:06 hothraxxa, and I can't spell cast withotu the robe 21:06 Ugh 21:06 I also keep getting level drained 21:07 so I'm still at Xp:13 21:07 Plan for master kaen is polyself to black dragon and fire 21:07 level isn't as important as you think 21:07 oh wait, no quest? 21:08 <{Demo}1> good luck getting approved to do your quest 21:08 hothraxxa, haven't tried, dunno if its reduced or not 21:08 {Demo}1, ? 21:08 <{Demo}1> alignment doesnt work in fourk 21:08 well you have to be careful 21:08 {Demo}1, I've murdered a crapoton of team @ 21:08 my alignment is OK 21:09 <{Demo}1> its alignment dependent what regains alignment 21:09 yes 21:09 <{Demo}1> one of them has it easy i cant recall 21:09 {Demo}1, I've got a wand of enlightment so I can check it. Worse case scenario, reverse geno !black unicorns and sac 21:09 Chaotics get alignment for killing @ 21:10 yeah, i was a chaotic monk 21:10 the first in fourk to ascend 21:10 <{Demo}1> i think chaotics get it easy with alignment 21:10 i was surprised no one had doen it 21:11 <{Demo}1> did u also get the first healer? :P 21:11 no that variant eluded me 21:12 <{Demo}1> u should get first ndnh healer 21:12 that's open? 21:12 oh ndnh 21:12 <{Demo}1> ndnh healer has syringes 21:12 i have never ascended plain ordinary dnh 21:13 <{Demo}1> yeah ndnh is probably easier than dnh right now actually 21:13 I've never played fourk before 21:13 so I'm pretty happy with team monk right now 21:13 i like fourk 21:13 <{Demo}1> fourk pisses me off 21:13 damn it 21:13 <{Demo}1> it has some cool shit but it fucks up multiple things 21:13 i have a three-streak in fourk 21:13 None of these rings are what I need 21:13 <{Demo}1> like it would be pretty good if it werent for a few things 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased magic marker named Sharpie", on T:255680 21:14 <{Demo}1> the speed change is also questionable 21:14 {Demo}1, like? 21:14 <{Demo}1> blood puddings are fucked, the alignment changes for non chaotics are fucked 21:15 fourk skills training is not too likeable 21:16 hothraxxa, I haven't noticed much different, and I haven't seen a blood pudding 21:17 I haven't blown up a boh yet 21:18 but there's still plenty of time 21:18 * NCommander needs to look at the source code and see how unihorns work 21:18 I'm guessing I need to enchant them 21:21 oh i know this one i just forget 21:22 looks like whenever it fixes attributes, it goes down in enchantment level, and vaporizes at -4 21:22 *-3 21:22 let's see. you need enchantment to cure attribute loss 21:22 right 21:22 Thinking I keep going down 21:22 so i always kept a couple of spares and kept them blessed, but i never anchanted them 21:22 Seeing if I can find a wand of polymorph for my rings, or polymorph control 21:23 hothraxxa, well being monk, what else am I going to do with all these scrolls of enchant weapon :) 21:23 good point 21:23 i did not go weaponless. i had stormy iirc 21:24 hothraxxa, I am almost weaponless, accidently pick axed a guy 21:24 ah, too bad that won't count 21:24 hothraxxa, yeah, but it wasn't enough to cause me to #quit, I"ve never ascended a monk 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6882 21:24 oh i never quit 21:25 hothraxxa, its a pity getting crowned won't give me stormy, I really could use drain resistance 21:25 i thought that was how i got it 21:25 getting crowned as a monk gives you spellbook of restore ability 21:25 my memory has been know to be flawed however 21:25 Unless fourk changed it 21:25 * NCommander checks 21:26 right but sacfest will get you stormy 21:26 True 21:26 prolly how i got it 21:27 May be worth getting it 21:27 I've gotten level drained twice 21:27 if you've lost weaponless, i recommend it highly 21:27 I've got an altar directly above medusa, and I know create monster 21:28 <{Demo}1> hmm I wonder how strong ndnh flamethrower is on astral 21:29 hothraxxa, probably should make sting and orcrist so I don't get gifted although I don't have either base item 21:30 yes. it was my orc wizard who had stormy. my monk had a +6 silver spear named vladsbane 21:31 heh 21:31 * NCommander just got yellow dragon scales 21:32 ydsm is the armour of choice in grunt 21:32 my dex is kinda crap 21:32 so I doubt i'll even be able to strike even if fourk hasn't nerfed monks in armor 21:32 why? it's easy to exercice 21:33 fuck my typing 21:33 you have a key, right? 21:35 ydsm is THE armour of choice perior ;) 21:35 period* 21:35 well. aren't you the contrarian 21:35 hothraxxa, yeah, I just haven't done it. 21:35 <{Demo}1> yellow DUMB scale mail 21:36 hothraxxa, ... looks like the penality for monks is based on wearing metal armor? 21:36 No I just haven't found any silver dragons :O 21:36 * hothraxxa hits demo with acid blast 21:36 that doesn't look right 21:36 i don't know what the code says. i am reporting my experience 21:37 hothraxxa, I'm just semi-stumped on what to do 21:37 I can't do the quest, and even if I got Xp:14, Kaen would destory me. 21:37 well based on my experience, don't wear body armour 21:37 hothraxxa, yeah, just means I can't spell cast worth shit :( 21:37 no there are good startegies for kaen, you'll be fine 21:37 hothraxxa, I was thinking black dragon 21:37 and #monster 21:38 but I haven't found a ring of polymorph control 21:38 why can'y you spell cast? a robe isn't body armour 21:38 hothraxxa, my failure rates are incredibly bad without one 21:38 even with no metal armor 21:38 hothraxxa, in the 70%s 21:39 why aren't you wearing the robe? 21:39 Int 8/Wis 13 21:39 yikes 21:39 hothraxxa, cause CoMR is my only source of MR 21:39 ok i get it 21:39 hothraxxa, yeah, and I can't exercise wisdom with Elbereth in fourk 21:39 just don't walk into any poly traps or get hit by any spells? 21:39 :D 21:39 don't engrave anything in fourk 21:39 or your hand will fall off 21:40 hothraxxa, x by itself doesn't 21:40 * NCommander actually checked the source 21:40 that's excluded from hand cramping 21:40 The counter is reset by quaffing full healing 21:40 i know. be really careful with that 21:40 always make sure that you are prompted to add the existing writing 21:41 because an x can be scuffed before you engrave 21:41 hothraxxa, yeah, I have been. I used an emergency elbereth earlier and my hand got really cramped 21:41 * NCommander had to figure out what that meant from the source 21:41 it's one of fourk's quaint charms 21:42 I actually like it better than 3.6 Elbereth nerfs 21:42 i stopped using elbereth for anything many many games ago 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 250 points, T:950, killed by a hobbit 21:44 so you need to get smarter is what you need 21:44 -!- Elronnd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:44 hothraxxa, I've ascended 3.6, it just makes the early game that much harder 21:44 just play tourist ;) 21:44 hothraxxa, I'm debating if I want to dive for Orcus town, might be able to find a ring of poly control down there 21:44 avoiding elbereth improved my game a lot 21:45 * NCommander is likely to get level drained in VoTD though 21:45 yes so don't go there yet 21:46 do you have a horn by chance? 21:46 -!- Elronnd has joined #hardfought 21:46 hothraxxa, frost horn 21:46 use it up so you get a tooled horn 21:46 the equivalent anyway 21:47 hothraxxa, good idea 21:47 Cone of cold isn't that useful 21:47 it's not bad in gehennom 21:47 but really the scaring is more vlauble 21:48 i get my typing lessons from trump university 21:48 * NCommander just used it up 21:48 I'm not that worried about the monsters down there 21:48 my AC is at -23 21:48 and I have 170 HP 21:48 it will stop them from hitting you 21:48 in fourk, comr is still mc 3 so you should be ok 21:49 yeah 21:50 did you say you had a wish? 21:53 hothraxxa, I do 21:53 hothraxxa, I also just got level 14 off a wraith corpse 21:54 a helm of brilliance might be nice then 21:55 you know you're getting one sooner or later 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8678 21:58 hothraxxa, well I just got accepted for the quest, and yeah, I'm debating burning a wish for one. 21:59 hothraxxa, as I said, I just really need poly control 22:04 have you got free action and potions of paralysis? 22:05 he's also a sucker for sleep. got any of that? 22:07 hothraxxa, I have the spell, no wands, but I just found a wand of polymorph on Quest:3 22:08 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> scare monster affects him too, doesnt it? 22:08 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:08 well good luck. just remember there are several strategies you can try 22:10 Only in 3.6 does scare monster work 22:10 hothraxxa, well given I have to loose MR to spell cast, I think polyself black dragon is the sanest route I can take 22:11 Or genocide team c and polymorph to get rid of the armor penalities 22:16 v - an uncursed ring of polymorph control {3} 22:16 bingo 22:17 <@Johannes the Clumsy Rogue> bango 22:23 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) defeated Master Kaen, on T:23659 22:23 That worked amazingly well 22:23 \o/ 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3593 22:25 https://sparrowmissions.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/The-A-Team.jpg 22:25 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 395 points, T:708, killed by a manes, while fainted from lack of food 22:27 black dragon distigration is really powerful 22:27 I do wonder how he cursed my name before poofing 22:28 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:30 so now I have one scroll of wishing and a magic lamp I no longer need for light 22:34 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3526 points, T:3958, killed by a watch captain 22:37 please remember to take them off for medusa 22:39 hothraxxa, already cleared medusa 22:39 hothraxxa, got down to the "castle" already, remember :) 22:41 hothraxxa, debating on burning wishes for speed boots and either gaunlets of strength or dex 22:42 Gauntlets of power will tank your spellcasting. 22:43 Tangles, my spellcasting is so bad I need a robe to do *anything* 22:43 70% fail on spells I'm basic or skilled in without the robe 22:43 My monk didn't come with a high quality brain 22:43 HoB like hothraxxa said earlier (unles syou already got it) will help offset not wearing hte robe. 22:44 True 22:44 Maybe HoB + speed boots 22:44 And then use vlad's wish for something 22:44 also fourk does some weord stuff with alchemy, but you might still be able to alchemise enough potions of GA to max your WIS/INT 22:45 also, now that you have the eyes, you could just wear the robe and run the risk, as long as you're careful how you handle Rodney. 22:45 Tangles, true ... 22:45 The only major offensive spell I have is magic missle though 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12462 23:06 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 Helm of brilliance", on T:23866 23:08 That helps somewhat 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 284 points, T:330, killed by a boulder 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:14065 23:15 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 speed boots", on T:23934 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2419 points, T:2536, killed by a lynx 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:32871 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) genocided arch-lich, on T:15928 23:56 Arch Liches did nothing wrong 23:57 Be careful! 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