00:00 As long as you can pass the player name via the command-line that's the main thing it needs. 00:01 <{Demo}1> i feel so turbo right now 00:01 <{Demo}1> like i can do anything 00:02 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:40020 00:03 Tangles, it needs some patching, and the save behavior has to be changed (it lets you name a save file!) 00:06 heh 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 785 points, T:1677, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf zombie 00:12 Tangles, what I probably need to do is seperate rogue and hack out of bsdgames and do patching so we can set the username, and then generate a save file based on that username 00:12 (bsdgames also has larn, another roguelike) 00:13 and then probably get xlogfile coded up 00:13 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 crystal pick", on T:40225 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:220062 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:220063 00:17 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided mind flayers dungeon wide on T:40367 00:17 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided arch-liches dungeon wide on T:40368 00:17 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided master liches dungeon wide on T:40369 00:17 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided disenchanters dungeon wide on T:40369 00:17 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided electric eels dungeon wide on T:40370 00:17 NCommander: sounds good! 00:18 multikill! 00:18 bouquet, c-c-c-c-c-combo breaker! 00:18 Tangles, I'm thinking I'm probably best off setting up dgamelaunch or something 00:18 heh 00:19 vlad seemed a little tougher than usual 00:21 NCommander: Yeah you can, but there's a little bit of effort involved there. 00:22 Tangles, I vaguely remember I've set it up once before 00:24 K2 and myself built the original hardfought based on the guides here https://github.com/altorg/nao-server 00:24 <{Demo}1> why no dockerfile 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:69458 00:25 <{Demo}1> send dockerfiles 00:26 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:26 there's a bunch of shell scripts in there, but really they are meant to be for instuctional purposes rather than just running nthem. 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:69477 00:28 <{Demo}1> dockerfile or bad 00:30 <{Demo}1> :( 00:31 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 00:32 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:38 Oh that's hilarious 00:39 Tangles, so I found the source of Rogue 3.4 and managed to get it to build (just needed a few minor syntax changes) 00:39 It generates levels based on the terminal size instead of fixed like in NetHack 00:39 I got this absurd dungeon 00:39 https://imgur.com/a/XVqxQjF 00:40 haha 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41084 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41085 00:40 mcasadevall@dawntreader:~/src/rogue362$ ./rogue ~/rogue.sav 00:40 Sorry, original game was played on a screen with 52 lines. 00:40 Current screen only has 31 lines. Unable to restore game 00:40 at least it handles THAT right 00:41 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42 what happens if you try to restore a smaller game on a bigger terminal? 00:42 Tangles, haven't tried 00:42 https://github.com/NCommander/rogue362 00:43 Just type make, I fixed all the compile errors 00:43 <{Demo}1> i found an infinite loop in someones rogue port it made me sad 00:43 <{Demo}1> happened when i went downstairs 00:43 It breaks 00:43 * NCommander hardcodes in a terminal size 00:44 Is it really version 362? that's kind of funny. 00:44 https://imgur.com/a/zYBm74g - notice the double status lines 00:45 Tangles, this was the first version wildly distributed; I found a version that was built for old linux for 99-ish. Wasn't hard to get that running on a modern compiler 00:45 The code is very clean 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:41262 00:45 That bottom status line has a lot of experience. 00:45 <{Demo}1> wow nethack has reached rogue tier 00:46 Wizard mode is controlled by a hardcoded password 00:46 heh 00:46 <{Demo}1> geex 00:47 #define PASSWD "mTwA0qqnrlXTw" 00:47 props for being a decent PW 00:47 ah correction, thats a hash 00:50 Loaded 1 password hash (Traditional DES [128/128 BS XOP-16]) 00:50 i onder if it's really DES 00:50 It looks like it is 00:50 let's see ho long it takes to crack 00:51 the DOS versions of rogue had a great bug if you weilded a food ration you'd instakill anything 00:51 lol @ the manpage. 00:51 i don't think i am using john jumbo 00:51 so this is all cpu bound 00:51 <{Demo}1> wild 00:52 Looks like people are interested in the original rogue 00:52 Talk about meeting your ancestors :) 00:53 14k checks a second... seems oddly slow 00:53 <{Demo}1> im gonna smite my ancestors for not faxing me dockerfiles 00:55 Ok, patched to always use 80x25 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:69936 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:41556 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:41559 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4817208 points, T:69940, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nh361/dumplog/1556241771.nh361.txt 00:58 congrats oh6! 00:59 <{Demo}1> thats a lot of squirmies 00:59 <{Demo}1> good work 00:59 https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=nPr(94,+8)%2F14000000 i think this is as long as it could take in theory, but that cannot be right... it's juST DES 00:59 grep take_off * 00:59 ugh 00:59 sorry 01:00 <{Demo}1> npr is the people that make the radio news 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 768 points, T:2689, killed by a kitten 01:00 bash < ~/.bash_history # dare you to do this as root :^) (pls do not do this) 01:00 lol 01:00 <{Demo}1> ill do it im a madman 01:02 {Demo}1, as your computer thinks about Maud, its mind turns itself inside out 01:02 Ok, figured out how users are selected, should be easy enough to path nethack-like behavior for saves 01:03 yeah this definately could take a long time to crack a 128 bit DES 01:03 i'll let it run for 30m for SCIENCE 01:05 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:08 <{Demo}1> I deserve it 01:08 :thanks {Demo}1 01:09 DES is 56-bit 01:09 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:09 Tangles, so how should saves work? I basically need to rewrite this logic 01:09 oh 01:09 :( 01:09 I ended up extincting purple worms by summoning them on astral so many times 01:09 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:10 lol 01:10 oh6, win 01:10 !asc oh6 01:10 NCommander: [hdf-us] oh6 has ascended 27 times in 87 games (31.03%): nh362:23 (45.10%), un:1 (50.00%), nh343:3 (50.00%) | [hdf-eu] oh6 has ascended 4 times in 8 games (50.00%): nh362:2 (50.00%), spl:1 (100.00%), xnh:1 (100.00%) 01:10 Damn 01:10 I wish I had your ascension record 01:11 !asc winny 01:11 winny: [hdf-us] winny has ascended 1 times in 100 games (1.00%): nh362:1 (2.17%) 01:15 there are 25 years of 0% preceding that :) 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:46340 01:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:22 oh6, sorta the same here but I go through nethack phases. I played for a few months then don't come back for a long itme 01:22 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 01:23 oh6, I've been meaning to try Angband and give ADOM a real test since I have a full keyboard again (ADOM doesn't play well without a numpad) 01:24 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:25 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 23534 points, T:10223, killed by a winged gargoyle 01:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:22132 01:28 yep, ~30 minutes later and it's still not cracked 01:28 winny, I can just replace the hash in the source 01:28 yes 01:28 i was just curious what the actual value was out of curiousity 01:29 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:30 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:46727 01:35 winny, in a lot of versions it was appartantly "bathtub" 01:43 what a curious password 01:46 I wonder how many will play rogue if it goes up on hardfought 01:46 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:46864 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death (5 times), on T:46873 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:46888 01:53 I was curious about angband but never really got into it 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:46913 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine (5 times), on T:46943 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine (10 times), on T:47065 02:09 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47068 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47083 02:13 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3089448 points, T:47091, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/nh361/dumplog/1556470151.nh361.txt 02:26 -!- rektTangles has joined #hardfought 02:26 Well this is messed up. 02:28 !ping 02:28 rektTangles: Pong! 02:33 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:34 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:41 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 02:42 ok, I have to try to kill a black D without reflection & MR - best thing to do is stand next to him, right? (so he doesn't use disintegration?) 02:42 eraserhead97: Message from hothraxxa at 2019-04-30 19:41 EDT: nh4 is a fork of 3.4.3 03:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:11 [hdf-us] [nh4] wii6 (disbtopia) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 29348 points, T:2183, killed by an invisible succubus 03:13 ok - that worked out - used a dagger storm on black D - waited for him around a corner 03:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:24 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wii2 (disbtopia) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 12198 points, T:577, killed by a Ms. Klodzko, the shopkeeper 03:30 -!- rektTangles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:38 Thought I'd be safe with a poor-man's MR (=oPC), chasing Medusa to Dlvl:25 - then I hear a zap while blindfolded and found a giant with a boulder... ...and a /oD 8^O 03:39 he must've suicided when the ray bounced off a wall 03:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:27596 03:46 a piece of cloth dropped off Medusa 8^O let it be MR... 03:50 strange game - already T:28k and no key/pick 03:53 crapola - only a cloak of protection - better than nothing... 03:58 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wii7 (disbtopia) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 19548 points, T:796, killed by a fox 04:08 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:08 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:10 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:28713 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh4] wizz3 (disbtopia) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 12758 points, T:768, killed by a black pudding 04:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:22 For storming castle, is cloak of protection better than displacement? I have reflection, but no MR, no conflict - I'm wary of L's in castle... 04:38 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 04:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 04:45 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZ1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 26352 points, T:2381, killed by a rothe 04:50 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:07 eraserhead97, try a c corpse to get rid of teleporting purple L quickly 05:07 and the rest 05:07 also consider scroll of scare monster 05:08 if you have purple L: stay on upstairs, drop scroll, wait for Lm kill at leisure (just don't move) 05:08 or combine strategies... 05:09 Glasshopper: good ideas - but no MM and no c atm - luckily, looks like only one plain Lich atm (no guaranties with /oCM all over the place) 05:09 oops - missed one demilich 05:09 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wiz1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 27715 points, T:1964, killed by a giant ant 05:10 I may have to try the crushing drawbridge (if it doesn't get blasted) 05:14 even demilichs can touch-of-death you 05:14 Glasshopper: damn - I didn't know that 8^P 05:14 but at least you can deal with them at a distance, or maybe with a c corpse or whatever 05:15 the purple L can just teleport to you an ToD you, bye bye 05:15 genocide L? 05:16 when I play, I try to avoid killing c unless I need to 05:16 make a note on the overview "c" 05:16 no geno scrolls - I managed to kill both L's with Magicbane, but it looks like I've let them all out over the drawbridge - I need a carnivorous pet to take care of these T's 05:16 when castle time comes, I know where to look for an appropriate corpse 05:17 MB give MR anyway! 05:17 -!- Tangles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:17 and curse resistance 95% 05:17 Glasshopper: doh - I FORGOT 8^P - it was gifted to me as a ranger - thx ^^ 05:17 lol, no need to worry :D 05:18 MB is the perfect L weapon 05:19 yeah - got 4 T's - it's out of control - gonna go upstairs to look for a dog or cat 05:19 in fact sometimes when I have MB, I resist genociding L and start Gehennom from the bottom level 05:19 then let the purple L show me where the upstairs are 05:19 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 05:20 oh - a cockatrice on this level - letsee if he drops 05:21 did I miss anything? 05:21 yeah, the troupe of dancing girls in bikinis 05:21 heh. no messages... my favourite number of messages :) 05:21 Glasshopper: yeah - I got a little sloppy with MB earlier - I had like HP:86 AC:-19 - thought I was invincible - of course, a minotaur brings me near death (had to burn a #pray) 05:21 They fixed succubi. 05:22 minotaur hits so many times 8^P 05:22 mm 05:22 minotaurs are not as scary if you pump up your HP a bit more, like over 100-150 or so 05:23 they are also susceptable to sleep/fear etc 05:24 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wz3 (disbtopia) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 23491 points, T:1190, killed by a giant bat 05:24 but yeah, if HP not high and AC not low then dangerous 05:24 I should just always avoid melee against minotaur... 05:24 not a bad idea 05:24 soften them up with missiles 05:24 MB's extra effects gave me false confidence 05:25 they do give real extra damage 05:26 crapola - no rubber chicken 05:26 I'll have to go upstairs for cat/dog 05:39 -!- OmNyomNyom has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:43 could someone shortly help me with traps and signals in linux? assuming i start an ssh session to hardfought, how could i detect SIGHUP etc on the session? 05:45 this is what i do in my shell https://gist.github.com/stenno/eef538f74dd367c93deb62f828128d8e 05:46 i expected that by sending 1 to the ssh process, i'd "trigger" the trap 05:50 oh hm never mind 05:57 do troll corpses ever spoil? 05:59 hmm... ...I'm going to assume that they do - I'll wait until this one revives 06:16 They can spoil but IIRC the odds are heavily against it 06:26 Pinkbeast: thx 06:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:33445 06:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:33451 06:35 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZ3 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 30676 points, T:3311, killed by a gnome 06:44 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:23 [hdf-us] [slex] Moonwind (Dea Ang Mal Cha) averted death, on T:2438 07:30 !who 07:30 Tangles: [hdf-us] disbtopia [nh4] Moonwind [slex] | [hdf-eu] locust [fh] | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh362] 07:34 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:40 nethack 3.6.2b-hdf updated (fixes for Andrio's foocubi bug, and others) 08:01 [hdf-us] [slex] Moonwind (Dea Ang Mal Cha), 37573 points, T:7680, killed by a monster (rabid rabbit) 08:24 lol a rabid rabbit 08:45 !who 08:45 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] rebatela [nh362] samiam [nh362] Karnac [nh362] aa [nh362] disbtopia [nh4] | [hdf-eu] AlbertB [nh362] CardGirlGamer [spl] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 254 points, T:525, killed by a water moccasin 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 82 points, T:78, killed by a kobold 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZD2 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 26612 points, T:2354, poisoned by a little dart 08:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3373 points, T:4074, killed by a human zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:32506 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:1310 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:32965 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:32966 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:33068 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1959 points, T:2597, killed by a gnome 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33994 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33997 09:18 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 515 points, T:1194, killed by a dwarf 09:25 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:309 09:31 EvilHack updated (all servers) - fixes more impossible("placing monster over another at ") stuff. 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:35789 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3679 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8906 points, T:4342, killed by invisible Izchak; the shopkeeper 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2817 points, T:3273, killed by a gelatinous cube 09:57 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:09 ugh 10:09 where's my Cleaver? 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:44412 10:26 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 455 points, T:1486, killed by a large mimic 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:44545 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:44546 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 541 points, T:1275, killed by a dwarf 10:37 -!- OmNyomNyom has joined #hardfought 10:40 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 908 points, T:2036, killed by an imp 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:3115 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 18 darts on an altar, on T:3199 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hekik (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:31965 11:00 Any reason to keep Dragonbane around? I've already got Fire Brand and Cleaver, with Giantslayer in a stash somewhere 11:01 If you don't have any other source of reflection. 11:02 I've got SDSM and an amulet of reflection 11:03 mm 11:03 I'd probably prefer Fire Brand 11:03 yeah, it's been serving me pretty well 11:04 just looking for a darned source of levitation or water walking now for the Medusa level 11:04 !whereis Hekik 11:04 PavelB: [hdf-us] Hekik [nh362]: (Pri Hum Mal Neu) T:32120 The Gnomish Mines level: 5 11:05 backtracking to see if I can find some unidentified boots 11:05 or a ring 11:05 Do you have any means of level teleportation, or a potion of levitation? 11:06 I do have some potions of levitation, the temporary effect just makes me nervous 11:07 You should definitely bless them if you're going to use them. 11:07 They'd help to search the Perseus statue. 11:07 <@luxidream> dig 11:07 <@luxidream> confused tele can take you back up 11:07 It's a good fallback if this little diversion turns out to be fruitless 11:08 Poly some rings? 11:08 yeah, got plenty of options 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Arc Hum Fem Law), 2369 points, T:3412, killed by an orcish arrow 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44551 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 209 points, T:1580, killed by a hobbit 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:734 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:44798 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided purple worm, on T:44894 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:7185 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:44904 11:31 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Mal Cha) killed the archeologist of rog, the former Field Worker, on T:1131 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh4] WZ1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 40308 points, T:4163, killed by a baluchitherium 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hekik (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:33693 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2523310 points, T:44930, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bartlem/nh361/dumplog/1556207893.nh361.txt 11:34 grats 11:34 congrats Bartlem! 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1002 points, T:1985, killed by a rothe 11:40 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 31424 points, T:1199, killed by an invisible priestess called "phfn" 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law), 130 points, T:567, killed by a jackal 11:51 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 27708 points, T:1999, killed by a dwarf 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9798 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:38326 12:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Dwa Fem Law), 797 points, T:1041, killed by a warhorse of Odin 12:11 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 27349 points, T:2202, killed by a mountain centaur 12:12 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:45455 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1299 points, T:3345, killed by an iguana 12:14 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:45632 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11587 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] aa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12561 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 548 points, T:1184, killed by a gnome 12:20 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 12:20 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46314 12:21 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 12:24 -!- Gaelan has quit [Client Quit] 12:24 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:46580 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39868 12:24 -!- wvc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:25 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 19610 points, T:1444, killed by a giant mimic 12:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:35 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 358406 points, T:46993, poisoned by Demogorgon 12:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:42 dude. Demogorgon. Not even once. 12:44 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42722 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42725 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:42732 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42845 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:42847 12:50 * NCommander rises from his sleep 12:51 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Mal Cha) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2897 12:51 !lastgame NCommander 12:51 NCommander: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NCommander/nh361/dumplog/1556672204.nh361.txt 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] aa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13631 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased wand of death", on T:43578 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43580 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:43585 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:43586 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:43734 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] NCommander (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 351 points, T:979, killed by a bolt of fire, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 daggers on an altar, on T:3489 13:05 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 944322 points, T:44073, killed by a touch of death (with the Amulet) 13:08 bah 13:10 dang 13:10 Were you on astral? 13:11 It's always sad when an artifact ends up in a shop 13:11 no water 13:12 i was wearing eyes of overworld for MR and he stole it. I had cloak but was wearing robe 13:12 couldn't put it on fast enough 13:12 had eye of aethiopica as well, but was wearing reflection 13:12 rodney was a BITCH on that run. My luck wasn't good. Does that effect wands hitting ? 13:13 for some reason i missed over and over with wand of death every time he appeared. still, my own fault for relying on artifact 13:14 hrm 13:14 Managed to get snickersee out of the shop 13:14 Not sure if it's worth using 13:19 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh4] gWiz1 (disbtopia) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 34589 points, T:6550, killed by a rabid rat 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a winter wolf cub, on T:13822 13:36 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1108 points, T:1764, killed by a Keystone Kop 13:47 Boo! 13:47 I love when I update software and then everything stops working 13:52 <{Demo}1> never happens ever 13:52 <{Demo}1> :P 13:53 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] gallery (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:60356 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] gallery (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:60358 14:00 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:17117 14:05 aaa 14:05 Whoops, sorry 14:05 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:08 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 47584 points, T:7058, killed by a blast of frost 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:17385 14:11 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] gallery (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:61379 14:15 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 14:16 !booze 14:16 * Beholder throws jonathanhanes a fifth of booze, distilled by FCCBot at 44 degrees Celsius. 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5428 14:17 It would help if my brother didn't have to have the newest version every single year 14:17 I ran autocad 2009 for about 7-8 years before I updated to 2017 :P 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5962 14:19 gonna shut it all down 14:19 do a clean install 14:19 maybe bang my head against the wall a bit 14:24 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: stealing from shopkeepers] 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:6553 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:17719 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:17734 14:30 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:702 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Gaelan (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1096 points, T:1707, killed by a jackal 14:46 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: stealing from shopkeepers] 14:49 Polymorph-trap turned me into a silver dragon? I guess that's ok 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:1821 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 496 points, T:1808, killed by a rothe 14:57 bah 14:57 tengu gave me teleportitis and not teleport control 14:57 that'll be annoying 15:02 this is the first time I've come across the Castle generating just below Medusa's Lair. Caught me off guard 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:9956 15:08 and the RNG has sunsword 15:08 ... 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:6591 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] aa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master lich), on T:19965 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] NCommander (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 15660 points, T:10287, killed by a bolt of cold 15:15 mine flayer with wand of cold 15:15 :( 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11265 15:17 -!- sodastab has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 15:18 -!- sodastab has joined #hardfought 15:18 -!- sodastab has quit [Excess Flood] 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3642 points, T:4378, killed by a dwarf 15:18 -!- sodastab has joined #hardfought 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh4] dVal2 (disbtopia) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 44276 points, T:6144, killed by a giant spider 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:12255 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 402 points, T:1508, killed by a cave spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] NCommander (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 3917 points, T:4035, killed by an owlbear 15:40 $!@# 15:43 !lastgame bouquet 15:43 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/unnethack/dumplog/1556464771.un.txt.html 15:44 two near ascensions in a row... I think I need a break from vampire wizards for a bit. 15:44 <{Demo}1> hmm might wrap up slashem game 15:45 I'd love to play slashem but I'm addicted to curses and I don't think it has that yet? 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:13939 15:46 !role 15:46 NCommander: sporkhack rogue 15:47 bouquet, ow, Demongorgon 15:47 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2842 15:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:57 * NCommander waves to LarienTelrunya 15:58 yo NCommander, just got home from a tour in the "assfuck express train" :P 15:59 sounds like a SLEX monster 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Hum Fem Law), 300 points, T:625, killed by a gnome lord 15:59 @le?express train 15:59 express train (8) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 25 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 70 | Generates: special | AC: -8 | Attacks: 6d12 trample physical, 6d12 trample displacement | Alignment: 0 | Flags: flies, phases, breathless, seeinvis, undead, vegan 16:00 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 16:02 ... how is an express train vegan? 16:02 <{Demo}1> fuck 16:02 <{Demo}1> he's good 16:04 {Demo}1, ? 16:04 LarienTelrunya, with dhslex, did you have a problem with the text on Windows being all screwy? 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1054 points, T:1947, quit 16:04 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 16:04 NCommander: no, but I didn't get hilitecolors working so I just threw them out for the windows build 16:05 sadly I don't have the source for that windows build on this PC and am waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too tired to get it from the other PC but if you remind me during the next days I'll put it up :) 16:05 LarienTelrunya, I got it partially working but it looks like the terminal code basically assumes you're on an ANSI terminal and does stupid shit 16:05 screenshot? 16:05 LarienTelrunya, I was able to get both the Linux and Windows build to work out of the single Makefile Chris has 16:06 don't know if I have one on had 16:07 LarienTelrunya, https://imgur.com/a/pHcXooe 16:07 uhh lol? yeah that doesn't happen on my end 16:08 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 16:08 maybe your terminal has weird dimensions? try setting them to 80x25 before you start the game :D 16:08 <{Demo}1> im really glad slashem is so well balanced 16:08 * NCommander is just glad SLASH'EM took portability seriously 16:09 a lot of variants need to be hit with a stick repeatively to get them to build 16:09 SLEX, and Un were thw two that come to mind that I've never had an issue building. xnh probably is fine but I never tried it on WIndows 16:11 heh, it's probably because the developer of slex always actually builds the game on both windows and unix :D 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3641 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2059 points, T:3814, quit 16:13 LarienTelrunya, :), I do worry I'm getting burned out on *hack games. Been really frustated as of late. Sorta debating trying ADOM or one of the *bands 16:13 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a winter wolf cub, on T:17256 16:15 NCommander: awwwwww... you should try ToME-SX if you want a starband :D 16:15 https://github.com/AmyBSOD/ToME-SX 16:15 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:15 I've never played any of the *bands, but I'm reading an interesting let's play of vanilla 16:15 LarienTelrunya, I'm expecting a DCSS-SX now 16:15 I've played vanilla Angband a little. I found it easier to get started in than ADOM, but it requires a large time investment to really go far. 16:16 well maybe you want an interesting let's play of ToME-SX? :D https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/lets-play-tome-sx-2-3-5-troubles-of-middle-earth-an-angband-variant.757480/ 16:16 NCommander: uhh I'm terribly bad at DCSS, it verges on being unplayable for me 16:16 Oh, dear. I think I need to seriously re-examine my life. 16:16 LarienTelrunya, out of curosity, why? 16:16 I agree with LarienTelrunya about something. 16:16 * NCommander hasn't played DCSS 16:17 no matter how high I enchant my weapons, I constantly miss in DCSS, and I never feel my char gets any better while the opposition does of course 16:17 Weird, DCSS seems to go fairly far in the direction of being easy to play 16:17 also you never find good gear in DCSS, or if you do, you can't identify it and unlike nethack, you can ONLY identify your shit with the scroll of identify and it only ever identifies a single item and is grievously rare to boot! Ack! 16:17 * NCommander notes for as much as I love NetHack, it's incredibly obtuse about it's mechanics 16:18 My DCSS experience can be summarized as "I explore mostly-empty mazes for a while, occasionally killing an enemy that does not seem dangerous. Then for no apparent reason, one of the enemies, the same ones I've been having no trouble with at all, one-shots me out of the blue." 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1797 points, T:2123, killed by a wolf, while praying 16:18 In NetHack, when I die, I can usually think of some things I did wrong. 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) had long sword named Sunsword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7985 16:18 In Brogue, I don't always know what I should've done differently, but I generally at least know why I was in trouble. 16:19 In DCSS, I usually have _no idea_ what it was about my situation in the last few turns, that made it any more dangerous than any other encounter. 16:19 my DCSS experience can be summarized as "I explore mazes for a while and encounter both easy and hard enemies, then get bored and go down to the next level where the enemies get harder but my gear and stats get no better, repeat 5-6 times, and then I die to an enemy that is too strong having no idea how I could have gotten powerful enough to handle him." 16:19 If you're making it down 5-6 levels in DCSS, you're better at it than I am. 16:20 in my opinion DCSS tries to go in the direction of being easy to play, but fails horribly at doing so :P 16:20 jonadab: depends on the char I'm playing. With some I die on floor 2 :D 16:20 generally it's the melee roles that I'm doing best with, which is the case in most RPGs I play 16:20 DCSS fans always _claim_ that DCSS gives you plenty of information about what is going on. They usually specifically say that it gives you more info than NetHack, about what is going on. But it's lies. 16:20 Yeah, one thing I've appericated from Angband is it's a lot clearer on it's mechanics and such. NetHack, I usually have to keep a tab open 16:21 DCSS gives you the clear information "he looks extremely dangerous" if you farlook a gnoll... but it doesn't tell you how to kill him and there are basically no escape items so you either race to a stair and hope he doesn't follow or it's game over :P 16:22 Wait, should I be farlooking every single enemy? 16:22 and then there are adders and orc shamans and other early game-enders in DCSS 16:22 That seems tedious. 16:22 no idea how to handle those 16:22 also if Sigmund appears, I always race to the next stair immediately 16:22 anyway, I'm afk for a bit 16:23 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 16:24 * jonathanhanes twitches 16:25 * NCommander points a wand of undead turning at jonathanhanes 16:26 LarienTelrunya, on the plus side, I got rogue36 working on Linux. It's a bit hilarious unpatched, it generates the dungeon the size of your terminal 16:27 I think everything is working 16:28 as intended 16:28 We'll see if that changes overnight when the gremlins go inside my computer and change the settings 16:34 <{Demo}1> "You displaced the invisible master lich of Amaterasu Omikami." 16:34 {Demo}1, polymorph? 16:34 no wait, that's a god 16:35 <{Demo}1> genetic engineer got my planetar good 16:40 !whereis Demo 16:40 NCommander: [hdf-us] Demo [slshm]: No details available 16:40 <{Demo}1> can i levitate over the plane of water in slashem? i forgot. i think i can 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:35824 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35827 16:42 {Demo}1, yes, since it's 3.4.3 (or 3.3.1) based 16:42 <{Demo}1> thats not how that works 16:42 <{Demo}1> 3.6 wasnt the first to make levitating over water not allowed 16:42 <{Demo}1> i canr remember if slashem makes the change or not 16:44 <{Demo}1> uhhh shit 16:44 <{Demo}1> how do i get the book from my pet lich? 16:44 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:45 <{Demo}1> im so screwed 16:45 beat it with a rolled up newspaper until it forks the book over 16:45 <{Demo}1> i wish it worked like that 16:45 <{Demo}1> unfortunately due to how slashem polymorph works and minion AI im turbo fucked 16:46 <{Demo}1> if i kill him to get him to drop it, he will revert to a planetar 16:46 <{Demo}1> and minions do not pick up or drop items 16:46 <{Demo}1> so i will have to kill the planetar 16:46 <{Demo}1> planetars op af and my other pets wont help me because they wont aggro it 16:47 <{Demo}1> even with conflict 16:47 <{Demo}1> cause minion ai 16:49 you could poly into a nymph and steal it from him 16:50 <{Demo}1> yeah very not ideal, idk 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:21104 16:51 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 16:57 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 16:58 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21655 16:59 wtf - finally found a key at T:36941 17:01 <{Demo}1> kill a shk 17:01 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 17:02 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 17:02 {Demo}1: whoa shit really? covetous minions don't give you the macguffins back? 17:03 i was wondering why he wasn't dropping it lol 17:03 but... slashem polymorphs are temporary, so he should poly back into a planetar eventually anyway 17:03 <{Demo}1> yes but he wont drop his shit 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:21448 17:03 <{Demo}1> cause hes a minion 17:03 <{Demo}1> minions do not pick up or drop items 17:03 what if you use a cockatrice corpse and turn him to stone? 17:04 <{Demo}1> i may have had a poly control ring in the ole wallet 17:04 what if you just poly him into something else 17:04 that is probably not a minion 17:04 <{Demo}1> i burned an aols 17:04 <{Demo}1> thats not how minions work 17:04 <{Demo}1> he already got polyd 17:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:04 <{Demo}1> he was a planetar and then got polyd to a master lich 17:04 StatueSurfer: it will probably still be a minion, as it already says "master lich of Amaterasu Omikami", i.e. it's still a minion 17:04 <{Demo}1> but he will revert in some amount of turns 17:04 okay so the planetar is the minion 17:04 <{Demo}1> no 17:05 and it keeps that behavior no matter what 17:05 <{Demo}1> being a minion is like being gay 17:05 <{Demo}1> if i was gay and u turned me into a moose id be a gay moose 17:05 .-. 17:05 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:21538 17:05 oh my god I must add that as a random message to slex :D 17:05 <{Demo}1> i turned into a brownie and stole his shit but then got disintegrated by a black dragon 17:05 <{Demo}1> so yeah 17:05 oof 17:05 <{Demo}1> burned an aols there 17:06 <{Demo}1> ^this is why i always wear aols 17:06 <{Demo}1> cause otherwise id be dead 17:06 well as I said, he can probably be turned to stone... got any wishes left? wish for a cockatrice corpse and whack him with it :P 17:06 <{Demo}1> i already did the deed 17:07 <{Demo}1> made it to the sanctum and saved cause i got bored 17:07 oh so in brownie form you managed to get your stuff back? 17:08 but why were you disintegrated in the first place, are you playing reflectionless??? if so, why? do you want to die? :P 17:08 if he wanted to die that bad he'd play slex instead 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 316 points, T:654, killed by a gnome lord 17:09 StatueSurfer: you should play slex! *bundlebundlebundle* the new version 2.50 is actually much nicer to the player than previous ones :) 17:09 <{Demo}1> no when i turned into a brownie my armor fell off 17:10 * NCommander is so cold he'd use a scroll of fire in RL right now 17:10 !role 17:10 NCommander: nhfourk samurai 17:10 !role 17:10 NCommander: evilhack barbarian 17:11 <@Johannes> Does that command work from discord? 17:12 try it! 17:13 probably not 17:15 woooo!!! i got red dragon scales from one of the castle dragons 17:15 now i can has fire resistances for gehennom 17:15 <@Johannes> !role 17:15 @Johannes: sporkhack tourist 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] aa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 62100 points, T:20648, killed by a minotaur 17:16 <@Johannes> k it does 17:16 thanks for testing. now you have to play a spork tou though 17:19 Those minos are mean 17:19 <@Johannes> i dont got spork 17:19 <@Johannes> so im just gonna run a tourist 17:19 holy teleport control? 17:20 holy teleport control batman! 17:20 <@Johannes> LOL 17:25 <@luxidream> !role 362 17:25 @luxidream: No variant 362 on server. 17:25 <@luxidream> !role 361 17:25 @luxidream: caveman 17:25 <@luxidream> !role dyna 17:25 @luxidream: barbarian 17:26 two 0:3 wishing wands in this game (one from castle), and now a throne wish at the quest 17:26 i guess marker 17:28 so is there anything really major in 362 17:29 <@luxidream> Orctown 17:29 what's happening with that 17:29 is it going away 17:30 <@luxidream> It now scatters orcs deeper into the mines 17:30 <@luxidream> guarantees a pair of gloves 17:30 <@luxidream> some other minor loot 17:31 interesting 17:31 people might stop #quitting at orctown now 17:32 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:35 <@Johannes> !role 361 17:35 @Johannes: ranger 17:35 wait how the hell did i just pick that up 17:35 i'm a vampire lord 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 677 points, T:1641, killed by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 17:36 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 17:36 are you wearing gloves? 17:37 the bell is only silver plated 17:37 oh right gloves 17:37 duh 17:37 ':D 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:23510 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 115 points, T:680, killed by a boiling potion 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:23651 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] NCommander (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 2382 points, T:3893, killed by a soldier ant 17:58 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 295593 points, T:25405, killed by Master Kaen, while paralyzed by a monster 18:04 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 12 points, T:79, killed by a jackal 18:07 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 18:10 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1689 18:10 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: stealing from shopkeepers] 18:19 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Kirigan, the former Monk, on T:1912 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger named Sting on an altar, on T:9459 18:22 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of l, the former Barbarian, on T:2132 18:24 first time I've ever seen a bones in a vault 18:25 yeah and killed by a guard of all things 18:26 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Naltrac, the former Wizard, on T:2442 18:26 Lots of bones 18:27 i had three in the game i just died in 18:28 -!- OmNyomNyom has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2023 18:32 * NCommander goes for pizza 18:33 quick someone make a variant with pizza 18:36 3rd wand of wishing 18:36 i officially declare this game ridiculous 18:36 i give up 18:37 only in nethack do people give up from getting TOO MUCH insane loot 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 9067 points, T:10150, killed by a black unicorn 18:41 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:43 play evilhack 18:44 first reverse genocide of kraken 18:44 I thought that scroll might be cursed 18:45 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:49 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:49 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:27559 18:58 * NCommander strechs 19:00 -!- LovelyKittenz has joined #hardfought 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Val Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:4105 19:01 -!- LovelyKittenz has quit [Client Quit] 19:01 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1402 points, T:2321, killed by a killer bee 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:27968 19:07 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 19:08 shield of reflection on DL1 19:08 i wonder what horrible way i'm going to die this time 19:09 Never trust the RNG. 19:09 RMG, or whatever it's called. I forgot 19:10 what exactly would you think it is that RMG stands for 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:9822 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 250 points, T:1669, killed by a dagger 19:18 <@Johannes> how was he killed by a dagger? 19:19 because i had 3 health 19:21 <@Johannes> was it thrown by something? 19:22 yeah 19:22 a gnome 19:24 <@Johannes> then why is it shown that you died to the dagger 19:24 <@Johannes> aaaaa 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:2631 19:37 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:5434 19:40 Fourk;s new soko levels aren't bad 19:40 still dislike Sokoban, but these were more forgiving 19:40 didn't need spoielrs 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) consumed animal products (floating eye) for the first time, on T:3385 19:49 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had a runed dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:4463 19:49 i'm an orc, doofus. we hatess elveses 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:4555 19:56 brilliant choice 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1945 points, T:5113, killed by brainlessness 19:57 why do mind flayers spawn in the mines 19:57 just why 19:58 shapeshifter? 19:58 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Mind_flayer#Generation 20:07 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Semilg, the former Valkyrie, on T:6767 20:08 The bones keep on coming 20:09 !lastgame Semilg 20:09 NCommander: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Semilg/nhfourk/dumps/2019-03-02%2015%3A10%3A14%2C%20Semilg-Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Semilg/nhfourk/dumps/2019-04-06%2014%3A27%3A48%2C%20Semilg-Bar-Dwa-Mal-Law%2C%20died.txt 20:09 !lastgame 4k Semilg 20:09 NCommander: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Semilg/nhfourk/dumps/2019-03-02%2015%3A10%3A14%2C%20Semilg-Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Semilg/nhfourk/dumps/2019-04-06%2014%3A27%3A48%2C%20Semilg-Bar-Dwa-Mal-Law%2C%20died.txt 20:12 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:6946 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 197 points, T:1981, killed by a gas spore's explosion 20:20 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 20:21 hello 20:21 Hello JonathanHanes, Welcome to #hardfought 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:39561 20:26 That kraken just tried to kill me 20:26 they do tend to do that 20:31 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14430 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1734 points, T:2020, killed by a hill orc 20:34 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:34 That nice L cursed my boh 20:37 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 20:41 * NCommander blehs 20:42 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:44 what happened 20:51 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll labeled ABRA KA DABRA on an altar, on T:4186 21:05 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 21:06 An L cursed my boh so I dropped it on level 42 and had to walk back up through gehennom. 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3426 points, T:4663, killed by a white unicorn 21:13 But I think I'm good now 21:13 I'm actually in pretty good shape ATM 21:13 * NCommander needs to find a unicorn horn but otherwise is happy with his loadout 21:14 MR/Reflection, AC -10 21:18 [hdf-us] [slex] Elronnd (Wiz Rod Fem Neu) killed the Aobe, on T:4915 21:19 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1931 points, T:3173, killed by a blue jelly 21:22 i just don't have it today 21:27 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 21:30 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:30 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Val Cen Fem Neu), 45210 points, T:4987, killed by a cobra 21:34 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 21:36 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 21:40 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5198 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8729 points, T:5594, killed by a bolt of cold 21:59 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:40760 22:21 8^P Firebrand on the floor of VotD, but I'm a ranger - will prolly have to sac-fest to get skill... 22:21 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 22:21 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 53 points, T:131, killed by a black pudding 22:26 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:11147 22:27 random wand of wishing on Dl:14 22:27 wtf - a Vorpal Blade next to VotD altar 22:27 <@riker> wow nice 22:27 <@riker> I was just about to suggest crowning to get long sword unrestricted 22:27 yeah found it by engrave testing 22:27 heading back to stash to see what it is 22:28 yeah - I need to get long unrestricted somehow 22:28 <@riker> crowning! 22:28 <@riker> go get yerself crowned while wielding either vorpal or fire brand 22:28 I've never been crowned before - reading wiki now - ic - thx for tip riker ^^ 22:31 looks like fourk makes wands start recharged 22:31 it's 1:0 22:31 Hrm 22:33 Trying to figur eout what to use that wish for 22:33 speed boots, helm of brillance ... 22:33 None of my armor is really worth enchanting up 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] StatueSurfer (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "+2 blessed greased fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:1012 22:36 <@riker> eraserhead: as long as you're not super prayer happy you should be good 22:37 riker: so, essentially just hold FireBrand and sac-fest as usual? 22:37 <@riker> nope 22:37 eraserhead97, it's praying on an altar 22:37 <@riker> crowning happens when you pray 22:37 <@riker> what variant? 22:37 You may also get random spellbooks and some interistics 22:37 !who 22:37 NCommander: [hdf-us] Bugpowder [evil] Karnac [nh362] jonathanhanes [nh362] StatueSurfer [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] Elronnd [slex] saxonysam [un] NCommander [4k] oh6 [nh343] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:37 <@riker> also you don't have to be on an altar 22:37 oh 22:37 <@riker> oh yeah ok vanilla, yea just be super lucky (extrememly) 22:37 <@riker> and pray anywhere 22:37 <@riker> it's a bit tedious since its' effectievly a sacfest 22:38 anywhere north of VotD? 22:38 <@riker> anywhere you can pray so yes? 22:38 No, it has to be an altar, you can't get the high rolls needed for prayer 22:38 er, crowning 22:38 and maxed out luck 22:38 but there's still the prayer timeout - so sac-fest to speed it up (in between)? 22:39 <@riker> you only need 10+ but yea sounds right 22:39 got it - ty riker, NCommander 22:39 <@riker> 10+ luck I mean, 20 align 22:39 <@riker> I forgot, I think dnh changed that (first successful max-luck prayer post-quest, anywhere) 22:40 <@riker> also in 4k ncommander wands of wishing start recharged so you can't do that again, but there are scrolls of wishing (single use) 22:41 argh, I accidently pissed off my god 22:41 riker: I can the the wrest wish, and learning charing was worthwhile 22:41 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 22:41 <@riker> RIP 22:41 <@riker> oh well, just get magic markers 22:42 My gear isn't worth enchanting 22:43 Thinking of wishing for speed boots or helm of brillance 22:43 <@riker> fair, except you can always use scrolls 22:43 although I haven't found any amazing spellbooks yet 22:43 <@riker> !whereis ncommander 22:43 @riker: [hdf-us] NCommander [4k]: (Mon Hum Mal Cha) T:11503 The Dungeons of Doom level: 7 22:43 <@riker> hm what can 4k monks get in matter? enough for poly? 22:43 <@riker> or div / id 22:44 Not sure, I can get skilled in clereic, basic in div 22:44 <@riker> yeah poly is useless likely 22:44 and basic in matter 22:45 My monk has garbage stats in that department 22:45 hence why I'm debating on the helm of brillance 22:45 I do have Protection and haste self as useful spells 22:46 <@riker> neither of those are top notch though 22:46 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:46 <@riker> can you maintain haste self easily? 22:46 <@riker> also what about MKOT or does 4k change artiwishing 22:48 Don't know if it changes artiwishing, but I sorta dislike doing it in general 22:48 <@riker> fair, half phys dmg is nice tho 22:50 yup 22:50 <@riker> also ncommander there's a wish in vlad, orcus, and the real wiztower, remember that (scroll each place) 22:51 I'm really torn on what to use this wish for 22:51 I also have a magic lamp but I'm using it for light 22:51 <@riker> have you done the quest yet? 22:51 No 22:51 I'm only 10k turns in, I'm not even going to try it until after the Castle 22:51 <@riker> ah 22:51 <@riker> I'd probably keep going 22:51 ANd then probably polyself into a black dragon and hope to fry Master Kaen 22:51 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:51 <@riker> eh he's not THAT bad 22:52 He nearly smoked my last monk in xnh 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1960 points, T:2164, killed by a dwarf 22:52 <@riker> yea sure he'll annihilate you unprepped 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (cockatrice), on T:10 22:53 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 22:54 oooh, spellbook of magic missle 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 81 points, T:184, killed by a contaminated potion 22:55 contaminate potion ... never seen that one before 22:55 I have a blessed luckstone - to get crowned, essentially #pray, sac-until-4-leaf, and then #pray, repeat... (while holding long sword), right? 22:55 eraserhead97, bingo 22:55 And I can cast it at %0 fail with a robe 22:55 NCommander: ty ^^ 22:56 eraserhead97, remember if you get a spellbook or artifact (or any sorta of gift), it resets the prayer timeout 22:56 <@riker> sac until no more 4 leaf 22:56 <@riker> but yes 22:56 <@riker> you want to no longer get luck since you maxed 22:57 I guess I should go to a deeper altar - Dlvl:4 yields week mobs 22:57 <@riker> so no more 4 leaf when you are sacrificing something that should give you luck, so not like a newt 22:57 <@riker> yea 22:57 sacing anything can give you luck 22:57 As long as your god isn't ticked off at you (which mine is) 22:58 but I'm sac'ing to increase luck and cut down time-out, right? 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 492 points, T:281, killed by a dwarf 23:00 eraserhead97, yeah, basically every time pray timeout is zero, you should pray 23:00 you'll get it fairly quick 23:00 Ugh, my AC is really garbage .. I think I lost divine protection even though I wasn't smtied 23:03 yeah, I need a magic marker 23:03 No way around it 23:04 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:12210 23:06 <@riker> ncommander: this one I'm pretty certain about: you can't get luck from anything at high xp levels, so you can't just sac 10k newt corpses for luck 23:07 <@riker> it's like 1/5 of difficulty lvl rounded down 23:08 possibly, usually when I get crowned, it's in the early game 23:10 Ok, that helped somewhat 23:10 +4 gloves, +5 robe 23:10 er, +5 CoMR 23:10 Might as well enchant the junk I have, so I'm less squishy 23:13 Ok, that was worth it 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 353 points, T:1456, killed by a bolt of cold 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1156 points, T:2399, killed by a rock mole, while praying 23:20 near death experience 23:20 got down to 1 HP 23:24 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:28 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 23:30 [hdf-us] [4k] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:13378 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:43313 23:36 ok - I didn't get crowned, but Giantslayer will unlock ^^ 23:37 ugh, team h came out to play 23:42 oops - Fire Brand can rust? I thought all arti-blades were foo-proof... 8^P 23:42 How did you get the non-rustproof Fire Brand? 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6396 23:43 it was lying on the ground in VotD 23:43 Ah 23:43 got rusted by Rust-monster 23:43 did I get a cheap knock-off? 23:44 Randomly generated ones aren't erodeproof; gifts from your god or dipped Excalibur are 23:44 Your sacrifice is consumed in a burst of flame! Huan Ti seems mollified. 23:44 yay 23:44 and of course you can wish for it to be erodeproof 23:44 Nice 23:44 * NCommander managed to magic missle team h 23:44 Andrio: ic - I'll have to erode-proof it myself then - thx ^^ 23:44 Go team +! 23:45 and then used a scroll of consecration to make a chaotic alter and sacced it 23:45 woo 23:47 ... a violet fungus dropped demonbane 23:47 O_o; 23:47 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of saxonysam, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4407 23:48 Nice 23:48 <@riker> ncommander: the violet fungi is colored by silver chloride 23:49 Demonbane isn't silver though, is it? 23:49 <@riker> nah not in vanilla 23:50 The blood covers the altar! You have summoned Juiblex! 23:50 yay 23:50 You are jubilant! 23:51 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 15424 points, T:4858, killed by an owlbear, while sleeping 23:51 a long sword named Sword of Punition 23:51 lot of new artifacts in 4k 23:51 never played this variant and got this far before 23:51 Is one of them a trident or pruning fork? 23:52 <@riker> don't think that's an arti 23:52 Too late. 23:55 <@riker> ncommander: pretty certain that player monsters in 4k just get nice enchanted/proofed weapons with some names it's not an artifact 23:56 <@riker> codediving says this can apply to any good sac gift too looks like 23:56 The gods deal in counterfeit artifacts? 23:56 <@riker> i mean this doesn't even TOUCH amy's fake artifacts 23:57 <@riker> also hey they give out how many gifts? it's not a surprise the quality is getting lower 23:57 ^^ 23:57 Medusa level 23:57 dunno if Medusa is buffed or not in 4k 23:59 <@riker> changelog says naw 23:59 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought