00:00 yeah yeah 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a water nymph, on T:6268 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 489 points, T:1533, killed by a gnome 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] koumakan (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 30 points, T:181, killed by a sewer rat 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 40348 points, T:9539, killed by a flesh golem 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:6999 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7715 00:43 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 01:12 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:18 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 2604 points, T:2709, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:33 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1758 points, T:2002, killed by a Woodland-elf, while sleeping 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] koumakan (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 420 points, T:1619, killed by a kitten 01:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:12 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:14 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:14 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 02:20 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2839 points, T:1912, killed by a white unicorn 02:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:38 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 4354 points, T:4481, killed by a watch captain 02:42 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of saxonysam, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2733 02:55 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:66995 03:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:33 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 03:33 well, that was fun 03:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3126 03:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3130 03:46 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:27 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:50 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:69229 04:55 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:69373 05:14 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:70134 05:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:32 K2: have you found out the cause for the botl display issue? 05:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:42 paxed: K2 is away now for the next weeks 05:43 raisse: i recognized/guessed all the other languages in petrusenpaulus tweet you retweeted. what's the one before georgian? 05:43 stenno: oh, he alraedy left... hm. 05:52 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:53 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:57 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 06:05 You don't need a gravestone. Yet. 06:10 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 06:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 06:12 i found a bug. 06:12 turns out, the second attack for monk doesn't check for gloves 06:13 so i just got petrified even though i wear gloves 06:16 Oops... 06:17 you made yourself into a grave marker 06:17 indeed 06:17 Something is engraved here on the statue. --More-- 06:17 turns out i didn't need a gravestone after all 06:18 But it is illegible, since cockatrices aren't very good at engraving. 06:18 i am my own gravestone 06:18 mm 06:20 i think the way the second attack is programmed will lead to other bugs too 06:20 it was a little bit careless 06:20 report, report! 06:20 or rather this is maybe a very obscure vanilla bug 06:21 gotta investigate 06:24 here is the relevant evilhack code https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/uhitm.c#L685-L696 06:25 so cockatrice touch_petrifies is not a passive attack, right? 06:26 [hdf-us] [nh4] Val4 (disb) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 38738 points, T:8171, killed by a white unicorn 06:28 shower thought: throwing/splatting eggs should break vegan 06:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:44 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:44 stenno: Of course you would discover this within minutes of K2 leaving for 5 weeks. 06:45 ikr 06:46 i am still somewhat thinking this is a super obscure vanilla bug 06:47 @v?cockatrice 06:47 cockatrice (c) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 6 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 30 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 1d3 bite physical, 0d0 touch petrification, 0d0 passive petrification | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous, touch petrifies, infravisible 06:48 the wiki lied - cockatrice stoning on touch is infact a passive 06:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:03 unfortunately this bug makes monk role unplayable atm 07:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:05 stenno: the 'monk gets 2nd hit with Grand Master' is an evilhack change, so it's not a vanilla bug. 07:05 this commit looks like the offender fce780e568d0ef35a23db9845774057bb053a5f0 07:05 Tangles: i know, but i wondered if the gloves check is not done for a presumable two-weaponing weaponless monk 07:05 the bug is already found 07:05 it wasn't my ball of cold! It was some jerk of a gnome shaman 07:06 Tangles: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/uhitm.c#L696 has to be called with AT_WEAP and not P_BARE_HANDED_COMBAT 07:12 Yeah I was just looking at that code. 07:12 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Fem Cha), 1562 points, T:1133, killed by a monster (Ms. Possogroenoe, the shopkeeper) 07:18 Tangles: should i make a PR? 07:18 do you have the appropriate rights to merge PRs? 07:19 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 07:24 Yeah I can, but I think there's more wrong with it than just that. 07:24 !uswapwep is wrong too 07:26 it should be something like passive(mon, uarmg, mhit, malive, AT_WEAP (seems wrong), FALSE) 07:27 i was thinking that a gloved offhand doesn't count as gloved (what i meant with the obscure vanilla bug) 07:27 because there is not yet a vanilla situation where it's relevant so it never popped up 07:28 No, it's probably because he's calling it with uswapwep as the 'weapon', which does not exist, so it's getting a null pointer instead. 07:28 and somehow that's causing it to bypass. 07:29 I'll play around with it and wiztest. 07:29 well, P_BARE_HANDED_COMBAT will never match in attk_protection 07:30 it's just not a valid value to call for attk_protection 07:33 Yeah correct, it needs to be AT_ something. Is there an AT_BAREHAND? 07:34 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:34 nvm I'm checking 07:36 yeah it's probably AT_WEAP. Same as whatever the first attack is, I guess. 07:36 I've not looked at this part of the code before. 07:36 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Car Gul Nbn Law), 182 points, T:658, killed by a gas spore's explosion 07:36 yes 07:36 AT_WEAP checks for bare-handedness in passive 07:36 (analog to the first attack) 07:41 Yeah ok I'm getting it now. 07:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Hea Inc Fem Neu), 220 points, T:560, killed by a grid bug 07:50 You feel light on your hooves! 07:53 The gnomish wizard blasts the ceiling with ice and curses! 07:53 that didn't quite hit the mark 07:55 Evilhack updated (all servers) 07:55 Hope I said that right :P 07:56 Fixes GrandMaster monks getting stoned on 2nd attack when wearing gloves. 07:57 oh yay 07:57 i can play another game now 07:58 credit goes to attie for actually finding the bug 07:58 Nice one attie :) 07:59 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Bin Sal Mal Non), 331 points, T:895, killed by a gecko 08:01 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Fem Cha), 12798 points, T:1485, killed by a monster (petty galltrit) 08:10 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 08:16 * NCommander begins to twitch and move 08:18 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Hum Fem Law), 797 points, T:840, killed by an acid blob 08:18 !role 08:18 NCommander: tnnt samurai 08:18 nope 08:18 !role 08:18 NCommander: nhfourk wizard 08:23 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Fem Cha) killed Moldoux, the Defenceless Mold, on T:40 08:24 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Fem Cha), 90 points, T:41, killed by a monster (great wyrm of power) 08:49 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Fem Cha), 218 points, T:510, killed by a filthy traitor 08:56 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1101 points, T:3573, zombified by an orc zombie, while praying 08:57 I seem to do best with healers but ugh 08:57 they're hard 08:57 gnome healers are the best 08:57 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:7, killed by a fox 08:57 the BEST jerry 08:57 except that one. that one was not the best 08:59 my healers depend heavily on good pets. pets don't do well in evilhack 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 293 points, T:801, killed by a wand 09:06 :( 09:06 hothraxxa, they've been alright at the start 09:06 !asc 09:06 NCommander: [hdf-us] NCommander has ascended 1 times in 80 games (1.25%): fh:1 (2.78%) 09:07 !role 09:07 NCommander: nh343 healer 09:07 ... 09:07 Yeah, time to get food 09:08 !role really likes healers 09:08 stenno: No variant really on server. 09:15 that's because they're virtual servers 09:30 -!- poppy has joined #hardfought 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law), 377 points, T:1906, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 09:38 I'm just not having any luck at getting a character going 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 14572 points, T:16060, killed by an air elemental 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 19604 points, T:11212, killed by a mumak 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 723 points, T:1314, zombified by a hobbit zombie 09:50 stupid zomibifes 09:51 <{Demo}1> ur a zombie 09:51 <{Demo}1> cause u got infected 09:55 :o 09:55 i was hanging around Asmo's lair waiting for him to bring in the other lawful demon lords (me: chaotic) 09:55 Dispater shows up and he's, uh, peaceful 09:56 what gives? 09:56 i almost feel bad for what I'm about to do to him 09:56 he's peaceful because he can still be paid off 09:56 ah 09:57 so i still to kill Baalzebub and Geryon, I've mapped out all of Gehennom and am ready for the ascension run but I just wanna take all the demons' souls with me this time 09:58 (already got Yeenoghu, Juiblex, Orcus, and Demogorgon with a conveniently placed chickatrice corpse) 09:58 should i get rid of Geryon now or what 09:59 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 10:00 assuming I have time to take off my displacement cloak and get out some cash, lol 10:03 -!- poppy has left #hardfought 10:05 i mean... Dispater. kill Dispater 10:06 geyron is probably the easiest demon prince to kill 10:06 I'm sorry, I'm wishy washy! 10:06 yeah I'm just trying to figure out what's most convenient 10:06 ah. dispater can be nasty 10:06 if I have both Asmo and Dispater zipping around then I'm statistically sooner to see Geryon 10:06 which variant? 10:06 un 10:07 i'm not _super_ worried about anyone, I'm at -46 AC and all the possible configurations of ascension gear 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 916 points, T:2279, killed by a kitten 10:07 dispater can have a nasty acid attack in some variants. not sure about un though 10:08 i have chromatic dragon SM 10:08 it defends against acid 10:08 oh. i love that stuff 10:08 actually i've never even seen dispater before and so when i read the spoiler that sez protect against acid I'm thinking, lol when has that ever been a threat? 10:08 i guess this is it 10:08 i mean, a threat to a late-game character 10:09 oof i don't have the chromatic dragon on right _now_ though, it's in my BoH 10:09 this one time, he nearly killed me in grunt with acid and i was decked out in all kinds of dragonhide 10:09 prepare to see me eat shit 10:09 ac -50 something 10:10 i've got 455/455 HP 10:10 why wouldn't you wear chromatic scale mail all the time? 10:10 because i love having displacement!!! 10:10 to have displacement i need to wear the magic dragon SM 10:11 and then the amulet for reflection 10:11 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:11 however the chromatic allows me to wear an amulet of flying, or yknow, lifesaving, if i'm unsure of myself 10:11 maybe i should do that instead of changing my suit 10:11 i'd wear cdsm and flying 10:11 yeah 10:12 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:12 i just have these traumatic memories from my first ascension of archon summonstorm 10:13 probably wouldn't have been so bad with displacement 10:13 get a tooled horn or a bugle, and a magic harp 10:13 i would never go to the planes without at least a bugle 10:13 i'm packing a tooled horn and maybe a drum of earthquake 10:13 oh wait, un. bugle prolly doesn't work 10:14 does drum of earthquake work on Plane of Air? seems like it shouldn't 10:14 never tried it 10:14 a tooled horn is all you need 10:14 i also have unnaturally many artifacts, and I'm gonna try double-BoH'ing them through 10:14 keep blowing it 10:14 i found Vorpy in the Black Market and used a troll from figurine to smuggle that bad boy out 10:15 double bag bohs? that's risky 10:15 do you need to do that? 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 286 points, T:753, zombified by a gnome zombie 10:15 yeah the wiki sez if i use seven intermediary sacks, then it's a 6.25% risk 10:16 i can handle that and if not, well, it shouldn't destroy everything, i hope 10:16 since in un it scatters the goods rather than outright obliterating them 10:16 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 10:16 ok so assmeble them in some place like soko 1 10:16 i may or may not have another BoH in reserve, I'm almost certain there's one in black market if i need one 10:17 yeah i've got all this put together in my stash spot, over 100K gold + my gem hoard and artifacts 10:17 i really want that top score spot lol 10:17 if it's like xnh you'll lose all your potions if the boh explodes 10:17 my first ascension i killed nearly 10k monsters because, yknow, i was finding my sea legs 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Rog Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:23 10:17 and it came within spitting distance of the #1 spot 10:17 i'm sore because i figure i would have made it if i hadn't used teh helm of alignment 10:18 oh ya it breaks all the potions 10:18 but i'm not going to bag it with potions 10:18 the inner bag will have just the stuff i'm taking for score purposes, the artifacts and gold and gems 10:18 also glass/crystal objects 10:18 (tins of Medusa and Rodney meat, etc) 10:18 glass and crystal? you mean like a crystal ball gives score? 10:19 no i mean a bohsplosion will break them 10:19 oh oh rightr 10:19 so no mirrors 10:20 ya it's going to be just the artifact bag, wrapped in 7 layers of plain ol sack, going into an empty BoH 10:20 and _then_ I add all the useful junk 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 123 points, T:442, killed by a giant spider 10:21 *rage* 10:21 F 10:23 ok time to do this Dispater nonsense 10:23 i think I had better put on a lifesaving amulet before anything else, just to be certain 10:25 be cooler if he'd give me a sec to reach into my BoH for some "gold" to "pay" him with, but i suppose he didn't get to be lord of his domain by trusting every schmuck with a bulging bag of loot over his shoulder 10:28 keep your hands where he can see them 10:28 too late lol 10:28 !role 10:28 NCommander: grunthack rogue 10:28 !role 4k 10:28 NCommander: rogue 10:28 ... 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Mon Dwa Fem Law), 12801 points, T:7504, killed by a mountain centaur 10:28 !role 4k 10:28 NCommander: wizard 10:29 by the time i took my displacement cloak off the battle was already joined 10:29 (that's such a weird idiom) 10:33 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:74364 10:36 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 148 points, T:641, killed by a sewer rat 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law), 334 points, T:1176, killed by a giant mimic 10:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2407 10:51 oof!!! 10:51 condolences dgoddard 10:53 does silver actually damage liches. I guess they're not "corporeal" or whatever but then neither are shades or ghosts 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 363 points, T:1246, zombified by a gnome zombie 10:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] koumakan (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:41, killed by a water demon 10:55 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:56 picaresquieu, yes, but liches are not weak to silver 10:56 neither are ghosts. 10:56 Go team fountain! 10:58 so far as i can tell the only quick and dirty method for liches is to have a footrice around 10:58 that or else you have to do the stairway boogie 10:59 or be chaotic with a blessed Book of the Dead and gather them into a lich army 11:00 We usually just camp on the upstairs and whale on them. 11:01 Sometimes they show up while we're trying to map, and helpfully reveal where the stairs are so I can teleport there. 11:03 4hi 11:03 a great weapon 11:03 if your goal in life is to get bad artifacts 11:04 Giantslayer didn't even get a 3.6.0 buff like Ogresmasher did. 11:04 or 3.6.1 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] koumakan (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 235 points, T:676, killed by a jackal 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Pri Dwa Mal Law), 714 points, T:2112, killed by an elder pseudodragon 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Rog Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2 11:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh4] W1 (disb) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 28352 points, T:2193, killed by a gnome lord 11:16 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6210 11:19 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 5257 points, T:3578, killed by an Uruk-hai, while fainted from lack of food 11:19 !who 11:19 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] Demo [slshm] NCommander [evil] koumakan [nh362] dgoddard [nh362] oh6 [nh362] disb [nh4] picaresquieu [un] bouquet [un] | [hdf-eu] Muad [sp] elenmirie [evil] FlySamurai [nh362] locust [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 401 points, T:1259, killed by a dwarf 11:22 #!@$@! 11:23 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 11:23 <{Demo}1> 76k turns into slashem and i still havent made it anywhere near the castle 11:24 When they said extended, they weren't kidding 11:24 oh wait, that's not Slex 11:26 -!- hf_guest_2 has joined #hardfought 11:26 -!- hf_guest_2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27 <{Demo}1> it just dawned on me how stupid of a name slex has 11:27 Andrio: i had no good ideas for giantslayer 11:27 <{Demo}1> super lotsa added stuff hack extended magic extended 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:7227 11:28 Mm 11:28 well, I haven't really been taking Slex itself very seriously either 11:28 Sort of unlike vanilla NetHack. 11:29 Or even AceHack... until it crashed all the time 11:30 <{Demo}1> raiding grunts stronghold 11:30 <{Demo}1> i take too much dmg, im so squishy 11:30 <{Demo}1> but im well escorted 11:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:33 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] koumakan (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 192 points, T:849, killed by a brown mold 11:38 <{Demo}1> "The tin opens like magic! You succeed in opening the tin. It smells kind of like vortex.--More--" uhhhhh 11:41 <{Demo}1> ive found 1 identify scroll all game and im 78k turns in... 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2335 11:46 {Demo}1, tornado in a can? 11:47 <{Demo}1> idk i ate it and nothing bad happened 11:49 !ping 11:49 JonathanHanes: Pong! 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (gnomish wizard), on T:2497 11:50 Just used it to clear out a massive scroll shop 11:51 oh yall mentioned how bad Giantslayer still is 11:51 Giantslayer is good in un at least, it gives you 18/** STR when wielded even in off-hand 11:53 which is great/almost necessary if you play an elf like i always do, not only to make casting easier but because elves don't recover HP by normal means "while touching cold iron" 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 268 points, T:883, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 11:55 somehow i seem to find it lying around somewhere in many games 11:55 <{Demo}1> hmm, with 8 artifacts generated if i make 10 wishes for the artifact i want i have an over 90% chance of getting it 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed NCommander's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:2798 11:56 Something I noted from stth logfiles of some mammoth games was that... 11:56 with enough wishes, you can get heaps and heaps of artis 11:56 even as the odds keep stacking against you 11:57 <{Demo}1> its a shape theres no way to get infinite wishes in slashem :PPP 11:57 i have i think 8 artifacts generated in my present un game :x 11:57 <{Demo}1> i have at least 8. actually maybe more like 10? idk 11:57 but it's Un so i can't mess around with wishes :\ 11:58 <{Demo}1> i just want offhand grays 11:58 <{Demo}1> and my god hasnt been compliant 11:58 Luckblade as my first sacrifice gift, Stormy from crowning, found Vorpy in the Black Market and managed to sneak it out 11:58 i'm kind of tempted to convert to Lawful so that I can dip for Excal and ascend with the set 11:58 <{Demo}1> i think im gonna use excal as my primary 11:59 but my desire to get that #1 score spot is more pressing 11:59 <{Demo}1> and not go for fire/frost 11:59 plus i already got 11 points of protection and don't feel like going through all that again lol 11:59 which artifact is it you'd wish for now? 12:00 <{Demo}1> grays 12:00 oo you did say that 12:00 <{Demo}1> well first i need to wish for 2 cursed scrolls of genocide 12:00 <{Demo}1> hen some magic markers 12:01 i need to get a better IRC client or configure this one correctly, it's almost illegible 12:05 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:06 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 12:06 <{Demo}1> ooh, i can raid shelob and girtabs 12:08 Vorpy isn't intelligent is it? will it blast me? 12:08 I'm restricted in longsword but maybe if I put in another five dozen sacrifices I'll be gifted with one 12:10 of course that gift would be Fire or Frost anyway 12:10 but yknow, they just aren't as macabre 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered FedEx, his faithful horse, on T:4057 12:10 <{Demo}1> vorpy is kind of sum suck 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wi3 (disb) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 31518 points, T:2872, killed by a dwarf 12:17 <{Demo}1> i really like how balanced monadic devas are 12:20 -!- wvc_ has joined #hardfought 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 17 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27764 12:23 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:24 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:25 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:29 -!- Lymia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3387 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 3162 points, T:3706, killed by a dagger 12:41 sokoban frustats me 12:43 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:45 <{Demo}1> dammit i need genocide 12:45 <{Demo}1> not even sam has it 12:46 <{Demo}1> :/ the guild of disgruntled adventurers 12:47 Are you disgruntled with it? 12:47 {Demo}1: did you see how my evilhack game ended 12:48 BTW, today is the best time to find bugs in EvilHack. Especially serious ones. 12:48 yes, i found a really serious one 12:49 but luckily tangles fixed it already 12:49 Ah. 12:49 (the fix was easy) 12:50 <{Demo}1> no i didnt stenno what happened? 12:50 also, a bug that's been present since at least 3.4.3, and is still in vanilla 12:50 <{Demo}1> im actually appreciative 12:50 <{Demo}1> they have so much loot 12:50 another bug, that is, not the same as the evilhack oen 12:50 <{Demo}1> what was the bug? 12:50 <{Demo}1> whats going on? 12:51 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 12:51 !booze 12:51 * Beholder throws JonathanHanes a glass of moonshine, decanted by demogorgon at 128 degrees Fahrenheit. 12:52 Oooh, a new 3.4.3 bug? 12:53 yes 12:53 didn't check out further than that, could be it's been present even longer 12:53 The only reason to check further back than that, would be if Amy needed to know if she should check slex. 12:53 And frankly who cares. 12:54 pets get doubled attack at hero 12:54 ouch 12:54 Ah. 12:54 only noticed because a quantum mechanic hits once, teleports player, and then nethack issues impossible when the qm tries to hit again 12:55 Actually, that is probably in the category of 3.4.3 issues that would likely NOT be relevant for NH4/Fourk/FIQHack. 12:55 Because our pets are different. 12:55 Your position suddenly seems very impossible! 12:55 Heh. 12:55 {Demo}1: evil monks get a second attack at grand master martial arts, which is like twoweaponing, but the second attack doesn't check properly if gloves are worn against cockatrices 12:55 s/doesn't/didn't/ 12:56 Crud 12:56 White unicorn spawned behind the boulder 12:56 ugh 12:56 -5 luck :( 12:56 so i turned to stone in the votd, quite surprisingly 12:56 <{Demo}1> damn 12:56 NCommander, couldn't have zapped teleport at it? 12:57 Andrio, I didn't see what it was, I just fired a wand at an I, and then found the corpse 12:57 ah... 12:57 <{Demo}1> good lord so much loot from the guild 12:57 jonadab: so, basically, conflicted monsters have been deadlier than they should've been. 12:58 Interesting. 12:58 i found another bug in vanilla today: throwing/splatting eggs doesn't break vegan 12:58 as it should 12:58 report, report! 12:58 yep, on it 12:58 I thought vegan conduct specifically referred to the diet, but perhaps 12:59 vegan means to not use animal produce 12:59 so no unihorn, then? 12:59 hmm actually in that sense they probably shouldn't wear any leather 12:59 by that logic, does attacking using a worm tooth or wearing dragon scales also violate it? 12:59 mm 12:59 yes 12:59 but i mean splatting an egg 12:59 i mean thats a bit more straightforward 13:00 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 13:00 * stenno retracts his bug report for now 13:01 The door opens. The giant zombie scratches the cockatrice. The giant zombie turns to stone!--More-- 13:01 lol 13:02 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:77003 13:02 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:77006 13:06 <{Demo}1> whoa, a gift that doesnt suck! 13:06 <{Demo}1> wallet of perseus get! 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a dusty cloak, on T:9007 13:09 <{Demo}1> god the wallet is nuts 13:10 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:77187 13:10 phew 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh4] Va3 (disb) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 30698 points, T:2682, killed by a rothe 13:11 damn that took a minute 13:11 now i'm ready to PREPARE for the ascension run 13:11 laying out my trail of breadcrumbs 13:12 MR is not a bad soko prize 13:15 <{Demo}1> sword of justice... 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3015 13:27 [hdf-us] [4k] netd (zor) (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1622 13:36 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:36 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 13:43 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:47 This BLT sandwich is delicious. That satisified your stomach 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh4] Ro1 (disb) (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 26487 points, T:1837, killed by a water demon 13:52 Go team { 13:54 [hdf-us] [4k] netd (zor) (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the ghost of mio, the former Rogue, on T:3287 14:03 <{Demo}1> yey first gypsy wish 14:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 10063 points, T:4747, killed by a gnome 14:09 Is there a Town branch in evilhack? 14:10 <{Demo}1> dammit i ran out of money 14:10 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:10 <{Demo}1> why am i even doing this 14:12 -!- Lymia has quit [Quit: Hugs~ <3] 14:15 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 14:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:20 [hdf-us] [4k] netd (zor) (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 16020 points, T:5346, killed by a gnome lord 14:24 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:26 !who 14:26 NCommander: [hdf-us] sflicht [ndnh] NCommander [evil] hothraxxa [evil] Bartlem [nh362] dgoddard [nh362] Gaal [nh362] leonard [nh362] habib [nh362] disb [nh4] zor [slex] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh362] 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh4] Barb1 (disb) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 23818 points, T:1835, killed by a water moccasin 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:30008 14:31 [hdf-us] [slex] zor (Drd Lep Mal Law), 246 points, T:830, killed by a monster (man eating plant) 14:34 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Con Orc Mal Cha), 113 points, T:361, killed by a jackal 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:12718 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 48204 points, T:12718, killed by a jabberwock 14:40 how do you make the game recognize that you've changed your terminal size? 14:40 I got an evilhack wish ... 14:40 I don't know if dragons are randomized 14:42 what happens if you wish for scale male? 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:13463 14:42 like you almost did 14:42 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 14:43 bug_sniper, it likely kicks it back 14:43 That[s why I checked the spelling :) 14:43 what I really need is an altar 14:43 The only one I've found is in minetown 14:43 and I really don't want to kill the priest 14:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:52 <{Demo}1> hmm my slashem game has had 6 wishes, no WoW 14:53 I'm seriously going to have to debate killing the minetown priest 14:53 <{Demo}1> 2 aols, 1 mm, 1 cursed geno, 1 reflection, 1 mr 14:55 <{Demo}1> wonder if gold duplication is patched in slashem 14:55 {Demo}1, probably not, base slash'em hasn't been updated in a long time 14:56 <{Demo}1> without it gypsies would be a far stretch from infinite wishes 14:58 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 14:58 * NCommander hrms 14:58 I should probably retrieve Mine's End luckstone 14:58 -!- bobbyd has joined #hardfought 14:58 soup 15:01 -!- bobbyd has quit [Client Quit] 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh4] wiz3 (disb) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 26907 points, T:2163, killed by a hobbit 15:02 Looks like Ifound a BoH in a bones file 15:02 Need holywater though :( 15:03 <{Demo}1> #tip ? 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Magician, on T:15128 15:03 that will still vanish objects tho 15:03 {Demo}1, want to use ti as an actual bag, and I think #tip still causes items to poof 15:03 <{Demo}1> oh 15:03 <{Demo}1> that's bad 15:03 It's light enough to lift, I just need to decurse it 15:04 I might have some scrolls of remove curse 15:04 Ahhh 15:04 Mind flayer 15:04 *mine flayer 15:06 <{Demo}1> I wonder if items poof from cursed bohs when a monster uses it 15:06 <{Demo}1> or if k2 either didn't implement or thought he implemented but never tested and it's actually broken that 15:06 <{Demo}1> words 15:07 Ok, now I have a co-aligned altar on mine's end 15:07 That's a really inconvient place for it 15:07 but at least I haveit 15:07 <{Demo}1> nah 15:07 <{Demo}1> khorend is an epic base 15:08 <{Demo}1> just live there for 100k turns 15:09 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:09 <{Demo}1> take that back 15:09 <{Demo}1> it's an epic base for dnh binders 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a wooden long sword entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:15527 15:11 ... 15:11 what the heck? 15:11 <{Demo}1> haha a wooden sword 15:12 I ... 15:12 I don't even ... 15:12 <{Demo}1> what? 15:14 <{Demo}1> why r u confused? 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:31803 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31804 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3964 points, T:9754, killed by a dwarf lady 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15991 15:20 {Demo}1, I can't figure out what use a wooden long sword would be 15:21 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:23 hothraxxa, trying orc wizard again? 15:23 <{Demo}1> killing things? 15:24 <{Demo}1> elven knights start with a sword made of wood 15:24 {Demo}1, I have excabiler 15:24 <{Demo}1> an elven long sword 15:24 <{Demo}1> offhand weapon 15:24 At least give me Orcrist, at least it would feel slightly less :P 15:24 <{Demo}1> nahhh thats a suckier offhand weapon 15:24 I'll ID it, but I'm hoping Demonbane is a lance in this variant 15:24 Since I plan to burn a wish for a ki-rin 15:25 I need to go get my collection of potions and make holy water now though 15:25 <{Demo}1> i have 2 ki-rins in slashem rn but i cant ride either 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:16466 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] toneLive (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:30379 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] toneLive (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:30380 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wiz2 (disb) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 18255 points, T:1536, killed by a bat 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1791 points, T:2933, killed by a killer bee 15:40 <{Demo}1> hmm ki-rins are some suck compared to monadic devas 15:42 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:43 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:43 paxed: syrian 15:44 <{Demo}1> damn, brought 2 monadics and 2 ki-rins to siege the castle 15:44 <{Demo}1> so far 1 of each has died 15:44 paxed: (the one before georgian) 15:44 paxed: we have some syrian people in the parish 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a plate mail entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:17174 15:45 paxed: I run the petrusenpaulus account too (mostly by scheduling things on tumblr) 15:45 I feel like Lugh is just giving me random junk at this point 15:45 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:45 well, did he already give you useful stuff? 15:46 paxed: we don't have any finnish people in the parish but I do that one for *me* 15:46 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 15:47 jeez, you can piss off your pet by engraving with a wand of light next to it (evilhack, of course) 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:17409 15:50 a pair of dragonhide gloves named Dragonbane 15:50 ... 15:50 what? 15:51 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51 <{Demo}1> yeah they r dope 15:51 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:51 You are jolted by a surge of electricity! Your ring of free action turns to dust and vanishes!--More-- 15:51 flip 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Kni Hum Fem Law), 865 points, T:1421, killed by a gnome lord 15:53 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wiz2 (disb) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 15537 points, T:1192, killed by an invisible Ms. Havic, the shopkeeper 15:53 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:55 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 15:56 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:56 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:57 <{Demo}1> yikes 15:57 <{Demo}1> i still need a free action ring 15:57 <{Demo}1> it is mandatory in slashem i think 15:57 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 15:58 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Fem Cha), 36160 points, T:12139, killed by a monster (Mr. Akhalataki, the shopkeeper) 15:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a orcish short sword entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:17850 16:03 ... 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wiz2 (disb) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 12767 points, T:551, killed by a small mimic 16:06 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:07 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 16:07 soup soup 16:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:11 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:12 oooh, elenmirie had a magic marker 16:12 mmmmmmmmm 16:12 REcovering that BoH was worthwhile 16:12 that one might have an amulet of flying too 16:13 elenmirie, I thnk thats the amulet of flying you got off of one of my bones biles 16:13 *piles 16:13 and it is :) 16:15 elenmirie, you also had a magic lamp 16:15 * NCommander has one too now that I blessed ID your body 16:15 well, enjoy the loot! 16:18 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6715 points, T:4935, killed by a bolt of fire 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] toneLive (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:31638 16:22 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Fem Cha), 1032 points, T:905, killed by a monster (Mr. Bandjar, the shopkeeper) 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1516 points, T:2183, killed by an Uruk-hai, while moving through the air 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:4, killed by a falling rock 16:32 elenmirie, darn, you used up the marker 16:33 * NCommander is still sorting through it 16:33 did I? must be a game other than the one I thought it was, then 16:34 elenmirie, or the marker just generated with 3 charges :/ 16:35 whereis NCommander 16:35 !whereis NCommander 16:35 elenmirie: [hdf-us] NCommander [evil]: (Kni Hum Mal Law) T:18272 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 16:35 hm 16:36 elenmirie, I also don't know why you had two tins of humanmeat 16:36 I found your bones on Mines:10 16:36 from tinning zombies and not dumping the tins 16:39 oh wait, your marker had 44 charges 16:39 I misread 16:46 <{Demo}1> Status of the long worm (neutral): Level 10 HP 127(270) Pw 71(71) AC 5. thats a long ass worm, thats a lot of hp 16:49 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 16:51 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Fem Cha), 956 points, T:945, killed by a monster (camo dwarf) 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] Rog1 (disb) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 30688 points, T:3959, killed by a water demon 16:54 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 16:58 NCommander, did you reverse genocide nurses? 16:58 bug_sniper, yeah 16:59 might be the easiest way to do nurse dancing 16:59 bug_sniper, it's how I always do it 16:59 knights have crap for HP 16:59 I should try doing that in slex 17:00 !who 17:00 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Demo [slshm] NCommander [evil] Bartlem [nh362] jonathanhanes [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] oh6 [nh362] RedArrow [nh362] disb [nh4] MaxLunar [slex] | [hdf-eu] aoei [nh362] | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh362] 17:00 bug_sniper, make sure you're on a no-teleport level 17:00 yeah, that's the best place to do it 17:01 bug_sniper, I'm burning elenmirie's marker to do it, my AC is down to -31, overkill for clearing the Castle 17:02 that's one of the best places for nurse dancing 17:02 those wand rooms in the castle 17:03 Never done it in the Castle 17:03 funny how this game started with a genocide of gnomish wizards ... 17:06 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 17:08 I'm going to get some chinese 17:08 Then Knox -> Castle 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1300 points, T:1695, killed by a dwarf 17:16 I like to can my enemies and eat their pickled flesh 17:17 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh4] Valk1 (disb) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 23646 points, T:1704, killed by a water demon 17:21 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: sleep-bundle-wing!] 17:25 nice patch idea: vinegar potions. Applying it to food before tinning it gives you pickled tins. 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 350 points, T:1319, killed by Ms. Kinnegad; the shopkeeper 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wiz5 (disb) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 13384 points, T:930, killed by an acidic corpse 17:32 bug_sniper, you see here a tin of pickled herring 17:36 e,a 17:39 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh4] Cavl1 (disb) (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1738 points, T:62, killed by a jackal, while praying 17:40 "Medusa hits! Medusa hits! Medusa bites! Your leg feels better." 17:41 Ahhhhh, Medusa's soothing bites 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2478 points, T:4065, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:48 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:59 <{Demo}1> got my blades enchanted 18:04 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh4] barc2 (disb) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 26239 points, T:2071, killed by a water demon 18:10 <{Demo}1> "The ghoul mage casts a spell at you! A pool appears beneath you!" never forget your lev ring 18:14 * NCommander returns 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:19361 18:22 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:27 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 18:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:35 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:50 !tell LarienTelrunya how do you make the game recognize that you've changed your terminal size? 18:50 I'm on it, bug_sniper. 18:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8144 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:23588 19:18 That was hard 19:19 K2, ya really buffed medusa 19:19 <{Demo}1> just dont melee her 19:19 <{Demo}1> its like dnh elder priest 19:20 <{Demo}1> if u melee u dumb otherwise ez 19:40 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:40 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:8956 19:47 <{Demo}1> got really bad orcus placement 19:47 <{Demo}1> at the start of hell 19:48 {Demo}1, yeah I didn't know that at first, and got stuck in a stoning circle 19:50 <{Demo}1> ah yeah yikes 19:50 <{Demo}1> good job not dying 19:52 <{Demo}1> man i forgot slashem doesnt buff demonlord health 19:52 <{Demo}1> so you just shred them i think 19:52 <{Demo}1> well the ones that dont get xp lvl boosts 19:53 <{Demo}1> yikes, demo's lair, i will return later but now is not the time 19:54 <@riker> why don't you want to go home? 19:54 <{Demo}1> free action is needed 19:54 <{Demo}1> and id like to roll up with a fleet of solars 19:54 <{Demo}1> going home in style is preferable 19:55 <{Demo}1> oh nevermind hes probably a pushover 19:56 <@riker> remember demo, that wimpy kid without stoning resistance? this is him now, feel old yet? 19:56 <{Demo}1> free action isnt important at all for him 19:56 <{Demo}1> im not gonna stone demon lords 19:56 <{Demo}1> its turn 106k 19:56 <{Demo}1> i dont need to 19:58 <@riker> !whereis Demo 19:58 @riker: [hdf-us] Demo [slshm]: No details available 19:58 <@riker> oh this is stock slashem? not even slex? lol 19:59 <@riker> I was wondering why demo was 'easy' 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 243 points, T:602, killed by a hobbit 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:1 20:00 <{Demo}1> demo down! 20:00 <@riker> !tell LarienTelrunya EPI for slex: Demogorgon in slex gets all his dnh buff (idk if he has them already) but also can randomly be replaced with a buffed elder priest 20:00 No worries, @riker, I've got this! 20:00 <{Demo}1> slashem has my least favorite demo liar 20:00 <{Demo}1> dnh has my favorite 20:01 <{Demo}1> ndnh has my favorite demo tribute level 20:01 woo 20:01 Got the wand of wishing 20:01 <@riker> yeah I like ndnh's honestly 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 14 points, T:143, killed by a kitten called McGee 20:01 <@riker> dnh is just kinda annoying when you get demo I'll be fair, ndnh is much better with its options 20:01 <{Demo}1> and u get to interact with his two heads 20:01 <@riker> ye 20:01 <{Demo}1> which have hard to spell names 20:01 <{Demo}1> that i dont think i ever fucked up the spelling of 20:02 {Demo}1, I haven't played dnethack but from what I've seen from the changelog doesn't really excite me 20:02 <@riker> nice 20:02 <{Demo}1> "P a pudding or ooze (tame green slime of Amaterasu Omikami)" 20:02 <@riker> ncommander it's way better than vanilla IMO 20:02 <@riker> it's just got wayy more content 20:03 TBH, it's not that hard to improve upon vallina 20:03 Now that I got a game past the starting point, I'm rather enjoying evilhack 20:03 But $#@@ it's hard 20:03 The castle was abusive 20:03 <@riker> huh I wonder why 20:04 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Fem Cha), 84831 points, T:11279, killed by sinking in shifting sand 20:04 <@riker> maybe you should ask if that was the point, I'm not sure something named evilhack was supposed to be hard, might be a major bug 20:05 <{Demo}1> fuck shoggoths 20:05 <@riker> accurate 20:05 <@riker> come back with acid res 20:05 <{Demo}1> just geno 20:06 <{Demo}1> its so gross that slashem doesnt give demo a throne 20:08 <{Demo}1> im glad slashem buffs vlad 20:13 <@riker> hey demo is dnh compileable rn on windows? 20:13 <@riker> from 3.16.0 20:17 <{Demo}1> no but amy made it happen 20:17 <{Demo}1> interrogate her plz 20:17 <{Demo}1> need to steal the knowledge 20:18 <{Demo}1> she got a slightly broken? dnhslex build running on windows somehow 20:18 <@riker> !tell LarienTelrunya htf did you get dnethack working on windows explain this wizardry 20:18 I'm on it, @riker. 20:18 <{Demo}1> chris seemd to think getting dnao to build on windows was unreasonable 20:18 <@riker> it was tbf 20:18 <@riker> it barely compiles on unix 20:18 <{Demo}1> but amy did it tho so maybe not 20:18 <{Demo}1> true 20:19 <{Demo}1> like the fact that it was done at all and when i asked her it seemd like a 5/10 bad not a 9/10 bad 20:19 <{Demo}1> whereas how chris described it i was thinking 9/10 bad 20:20 <@riker> dude, it literally doesn't compile on mac and that's a unix based system 20:20 <@riker> also are we really using amy's opinion as a sanity barometer 20:21 <{Demo}1> true good point 20:24 if dnh doesn't build on Windows, that's somewhat sloppy programming given NH builds out of the box 20:24 <{Demo}1> dnh does 20:25 <{Demo}1> dnao doesnt 20:25 <{Demo}1> dnao is built on nao which isnt meant to run on windows 20:26 I got NAO to build on Windows back in the day 20:26 I can probably fix if anyone actually cares 20:27 <{Demo}1> dnh is turbo fucked 20:27 <@riker> yes 20:28 {Demo}1, in what way? 20:28 do you want a Windows build? 20:28 <@riker> ncommander imagine if the code was made by 14 different people, each with slightly different goals and ideas in mind 20:28 <@riker> and each working on their own part 20:29 <@riker> and each aiming for a different kind of game 20:29 <@riker> this is basically chris, don't be like chris 20:29 <{Demo}1> if u could get a working ndnh windows build id be highly appreciative 20:30 <{Demo}1> ndnh shouldnt be any harder to get to work on windows than dnao 20:30 <{Demo}1> i think i tried at some point but i dont remember anymore 20:30 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:31 do you want dnao or base ndnh? 20:31 <{Demo}1> the only reason id care about building dnao on windows is so i could try to figure out what had to be done so i could get an ndnh build working on windows 20:32 <{Demo}1> cause ndnh is a dnao fork 20:34 oh ndnh is notdnethack 20:34 I can't even find what the difference is 20:34 <{Demo}1> https://github.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/blob/2019.04.08/changelog.txt 20:35 <{Demo}1> very poorly documented partial changelog 20:35 ha, just discovered something pretty cool. As a vampire player race riding a horse I can still fly while mounted. 20:38 bouquet, I think that's actually vanilla behavior. I vaguely remember doing that with a polyself to mind flayer 20:39 cool. I guess I'll leave the Kirin parked in the garage. 20:39 Flying has a bunch of edge cases where the devteam didn't quite think about it, and the player can't get flying aside from self-polymorph 20:39 !who 20:39 NCommander: [hdf-us] Grouchy [nh362] disb [nh4] ebrizzlez [nh4] MaxLunar [slex] saxonysam [un] bouquet [un] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 20:39 {Demo}1, let me reboot under Windows and see if I can coax ndnh into building 20:41 * NCommander returns 20:43 <{Demo}1> good luck and thaks 20:44 {Demo}1, trying to remember how you build nethack normally 20:44 it's been awhile 20:44 <{Demo}1> the player gets flying while riding a flying steed 20:44 <{Demo}1> oh lol 20:44 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 18298 points, T:11479, killed by a gray unicorn 20:45 {Demo}1, assuming you don't care about tiles? 20:46 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 87 points, T:92, killed by a jackal 20:46 <{Demo}1> not at all 20:48 {Demo}1, preference of visual studio vs mingw? 20:50 <{Demo}1> mingw 20:50 give me a sec, need to get msys setup on this laptop 20:54 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 618 points, T:1274, killed by a boiling potion 20:55 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Dea Ang Fem Cha) averted death, on T:815 20:56 installing MSYS sucks 20:58 <{Demo}1> i have an msys install on a vm somewhere and yeah 20:59 it's just really slow 21:00 Mostly because POSIX file operations (and general IO I find) on Windows are slower than Linux 21:00 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:12429 21:00 {Demo}1, what is your intent with notdnethack? is it a continutation or rebalance? 21:00 <{Demo}1> little bit of both 21:01 <{Demo}1> more continuation but definitely some rebalance 21:01 is dnh dead or? 21:01 <{Demo}1> no 21:02 its the variant I know the least about 21:02 <{Demo}1> chris will return before june and wrap up 3.16.1 21:02 It seems like its a rather radicaial set of changes 21:02 <{Demo}1> its a lot of new shit 21:03 <{Demo}1> a lot of shit with a lot of depth 21:03 <{Demo}1> its a whole lot of fun 21:03 <{Demo}1> its well thought out cool shit based on weird nerd shit that idk much about 21:03 <{Demo}1> its like the opposite of slex 21:04 <{Demo}1> slex is random aids from the mind of a maniac, dnh is well thought out cool niche shit 21:06 <{Demo}1> hell, dnethack makes vanilla slashem look like a shitty lazy amateur work 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1312 points, T:1568, killed by a wand 21:17 back 21:18 <@riker> demo: 'well thought out' but not 'well-implemented' tbh 21:18 {Demo}1, well, Amy is the author, although there are a lot of things I actually do like about slex 21:18 <{Demo}1> yeah sometimes the implementation gets iffy 21:18 ugh, I honestly forgot how bad the NetHack build system is 21:18 <@riker> I have/had a nice infinity's mirrored arc thing 21:18 a lot of variant makers aren't great C programmers 21:18 <@riker> which i meant to report to chris 21:18 <{Demo}1> i love slex but for very different reasons than i love dnh 21:18 <{Demo}1> the turbodmg? 21:19 <{Demo}1> where hes using a pointer as an int value for dmg boost leading to doing fuckloads of dmg? 21:19 ugh, I forgot this quirk 21:19 nethack doesn't like to build if sh is in the path 21:19 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG sometimes mcasting magical darkness + you casting light + light sources (lamps) can do some funky things with IMA, getting permanently fully lit IMA and also getting lvl -1 IMA, segfaulting, zero clue how to repro other than fight drow, I think it has to do with darkness spells removing the ambient (dim) light + your lamp at the same time 21:19 I'm on it, @riker. 21:20 <{Demo}1> ^^^ shit like this is why im glad i havent merged that 21:20 <@riker> yep 21:20 <@riker> it was a fun bug though 21:20 <{Demo}1> just 1 more thing to be broken :( 21:21 <@riker> I think the issue was dim light not counting for IMA's brightness normally, but then when it's removed it tries to remove a level from IMA's brightness but that brings it to -1 brightness or something 21:21 <@riker> with 1 being source, 2 being strong ambient, 3 being both or smth 21:22 <{Demo}1> ima is cool but WHY 21:22 <{Demo}1> like why is it a thing 21:22 <{Demo}1> why are any of those new neutral quest artifacts a thing 21:23 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 21:28 {Demo}1, I'm going to see if I can build with VS Community 21:28 It really dislikes MSYS 21:33 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:37 <{Demo}1> ok 21:39 <{Demo}1> " The white naga spits venom! The snowball hits the saddled pony. The cold freezes the saddled pony!" 21:41 having fun riding a frozen pony now? 21:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:41 <{Demo}1> nah the white naga killed it 21:43 <{Demo}1> why is chillbug without a space? 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:11795 21:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:48 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 21:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 21:51 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 262 points, T:598, killed by a bat, while fainted from lack of food 21:52 <{Demo}1> hmm should i add snow dwarves? 21:52 <{Demo}1> whats a snow dwarf? 21:56 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 21:56 Been a long time since I have played on HDF and when I just tried to connect, I got something I've never seen before. 21:56 "Warning: possible DNS spoofing detected" 21:59 introsp3ctive: since last time you played, hardfought likely moved to a different IP 21:59 so ssh is warning you that someone seems to have overriden the IP that "hardfought.org" refers to 22:00 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 487 points, T:1112, killed by a gas spore's explosion 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 cursed greased scroll of genocide", on T:28233 22:02 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:03 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:28563 22:04 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:28783 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:29561 22:10 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 750 points, T:1309, killed by a hobgoblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:29816 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:29844 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:30165 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:30167 22:12 {Demo}1, making headway 22:13 {Demo}1, definitions compiler gets built now, but I'm only getting this to work at all with MSC 22:13 not GCC 22:13 <{Demo}1> ah nice 22:13 <{Demo}1> damn 22:13 <{Demo}1> whoa, theres a brine-4 in dnh 22:13 {Demo}1, I can try harder for GCC 22:13 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 304 points, T:372, killed by a sewer rat 22:14 <{Demo}1> wonder if brine-4 would merge into the vibe square level well... 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:31020 22:19 <{Demo}1> adding the first part of the sheol palace as an ice town alternative town 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:31882 22:23 {Demo}1, ok I figured out what was wrong 22:23 mingw32-make SHELL=cmd 22:23 -f Makefile.gcc is needed 22:23 or it will try to run shit with sh even if you tell it not to 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:31909 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:31937 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:32159 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:32160 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:32167 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15054 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:32230 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:32233 22:27 <{Demo}1> hmm 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:32348 22:34 * NCommander makes progress 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:34436 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:35011 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:35217 22:40 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:41 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:35615 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) averted death, on T:35634 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 807516 points, T:35654, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nh361/dumplog/1556391227.nh361.txt 22:44 grats lux 22:45 hmm, NetHack 3.6.2 is generating dumplogs in the nh361/ subdir 22:45 I guess that's not a major issue 22:45 <@luxidream> thanks 22:45 <@luxidream> gotta get back in shape I guess 22:45 <@luxidream> june is coming up 22:46 Lluxidream: nice 22:48 WP Luxi <3 22:48 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49 <@Johannes> nice one lux! 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:6604 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6606 22:52 <@luxidream> thanks guys 😄 22:53 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 22:55 <{Demo}1> hmm removing altar from minetown - how dick of a move? 22:56 <@luxidream> why? don't want the player to BUC test 22:56 <@luxidream> ? 22:56 {Demo}1, fairly dick unless you put an altar somewher else beside VotD 22:57 <{Demo}1> so they wont go to the mines 22:58 <{Demo}1> i think i might reinstate the altars, no temple, and unaligned 22:58 <{Demo}1> and then make converting unaligned altars a Bad Idea 23:02 <{Demo}1> uh yikes dnh has a serious issue with the mechanic i wanted to use 23:04 {Demo}1, I got it building fails to links 23:04 <{Demo}1> hmmmm 23:05 Trying to fix it now 23:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:07 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:16913 23:08 <{Demo}1> hmm salamanders can slither through bars, shit, now i know where a "bug" came from 23:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:15 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:18 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Con Vam Fem Cha), 5693 points, T:8670, killed by a giant rat 23:22 {Demo}1, what's the bug 23:25 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 23:29 <{Demo}1> I thought there was a bug where burning bars with lightsabers getting interrupted could lead to the bars being marked as movable but the glyph never updating 23:29 <{Demo}1> I forgot I was salamander race and could therefore just slither through bars 23:30 {Demo}1, I'm mostly dealing with menucolors having issues on windows 23:30 then I should have a working build 23:32 <{Demo}1> hmmm 23:33 {Demo}1, I may just try disabling them 23:40 * NCommander screams 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:7651 23:52 <{Demo}1> I think that's what Amy did 23:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 23:53 {Demo}1, yeah, this is really messy how they did it 23:53 I dunno if this is a dnh, a dnao thing, or something else