00:01 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 1449 points, T:1349, killed by an orc zombie 00:01 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4067 points, T:2429, killed by a human mummy 00:02 just noticed my cat name isn't what I usually set. 00:15 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 1741 points, T:2042, killed by a housecat 00:24 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:42750 00:59 Status of wizard (stridently lawful): Level 1 HP 11(19) AC 3, turning into a zombie. 00:59 fixed that bit 00:59 ^ Hekik thanks for finding that 01:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:00 <{Demo}2> botl updating a broken and weird in evil 01:01 <{Demo}2> had issues where I was burdened, it said burdened, mounted steed and then it said burd 01:01 its in vanilla too 01:01 <{Demo}2> forced refresh and the burd became ride 01:01 <{Demo}2> ah 01:01 <{Demo}2> so hopefully that'll get fixed then eventually 01:02 <{Demo}2> before 3.6.2 releases fornally 01:02 the main one i've seen myself and have had reported was termill going away 01:02 <{Demo}2> yeah 01:02 oh, mayyyyyybe if someone would report those things ... 01:02 checking inventory 'fixes' it 01:02 hi paxed ;) 01:02 <{Demo}2> that's the kind of bug I'd leave to the dt to fix 01:02 needed to make sure it wasnt just evilhack 01:02 <{Demo}2> cause it seems hard 01:03 <{Demo}2> there were a lot of dnh bugs in ndnh that Chris fixed in dnh after I'd report and I'd steal his fixes instead of fixing it myself 01:03 <{Demo}2> it's a really good strategy 01:04 paxed: statuslines:3 seems fine 01:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:04 statuslines:2 -> i become terminally ill (TermIll), cure myself, status goes away. become TermIll a second time right after, nothing shows that i'm ill 01:04 K2: don't tell me, i haven't paid attention to what pat did recently with it and the botl changes 01:05 if i refresh full screen in any way (change statuslines, check inv, etc), it comes back 01:05 ok 01:11 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 5222 points, T:6905, killed by a crocodile, while praying 01:12 need to see if i can reproduce that in curses mode too 01:18 seems ok in curses 01:20 yup just tty mode 01:20 Status of wizard (nominally lawful): Level 1 HP 4(16) AC 3, turning into a zombie, fast. 01:20 hahah 01:29 * NCommander rolls up another character 01:29 feeling better NCommander? 01:29 Fell asleep randomly 01:30 I need to do work but also need to unwind 01:30 I'm debating what I want to try and run in evilhack 01:30 Ranger seems like a decent choice for early ranged weaponry 01:30 three new races to try 01:30 hobbit, centaur, giant 01:30 K2, I'm assumign Stormbringer is still bloodthirsty? 01:30 * NCommander got used it in FIQhack being somewhat less annoying 01:31 yes 01:31 i made a fair amount of artifact changes and additions, but left stormy as evil as ever 01:31 !asc 01:31 NCommander: [hdf-us] NCommander has ascended 1 times in 49 games (2.04%): fh:1 (2.78%) 01:32 can't remember what I ascended as in FIQ 01:32 you can dual wield artifact weapons as well, under certain conditions 01:32 not a free for all like grunthack 01:32 priest 01:33 Never managed to ascend a ranger, seems like the early game is easier with a ranged weapon 01:33 fiqhack priest asc? nicwe 01:33 *nice 01:33 It was awhile ago 01:33 rangers tend to be squishy early/mid game 01:33 I've gotten rangers beyond the castle 01:33 Never got the amulet with one 01:34 their artifact is not exactly OP 01:34 Healer may also be worth it for the initial posion resistance ... 01:36 I've never ascended a barbarian 01:36 Might be interesting 01:36 barbarians can be fun 01:37 especially if you dont care about your pets and want to go crazy with cleaver 01:38 paxed: submitted a bug report, #H8609 01:38 K2: thanks 01:39 wish i could have provided a solution of sorts, but this one stumped me 01:39 as do most things ;) 01:39 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:306 01:47 I need to find a color scheme that makes things easier 01:47 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 01:47 Having trouble seeing the dark colors 01:48 maybe just play wth contrast? 01:48 might be a simpler solution 01:51 K2, in game option? 01:51 no 01:51 thinking terminal window 01:52 I adjsuted it but didn't help 01:52 * NCommander became a werejackal 01:52 Ugh 01:52 the server just sends numbers like 0, 1, .. 16 for colors, and your terminal interprets those numbers as colors. you pick what colors corresponds to what number in your terminal 01:56 paxed, I know, I just can't find a palette that works well, my LCD has issues with colors in general 01:58 * NCommander waits to become elf again 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) murdered Jack5, his faithful jackal, on T:1614 02:02 ugh 02:02 This is off to a wonderful start 02:03 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:07 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 569 points, T:2057, zombified by a kobold zombie 02:07 feck 02:07 That was painful 02:09 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4 02:16 K2, ... I discovered elves get itchy with metal items. Trying to figure out what that means in the source; looks like it disables natural regen? 02:17 yes 02:17 specifically: 02:17 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:17 elves are adverse to iron 02:17 if they come into diretc contact, cant regen hit points 02:17 *direct 02:17 same for orcs and mithril 02:17 ouch 02:18 Well this is going to be fun 02:18 * NCommander needs a mithril suite 02:18 but since object materials are a thing, you can wish for (or if lucky, find randomly) things like a mithril helm of brilliance 02:19 list goes on and on 02:19 there's racial bonuses also for like armor 02:20 so as an orc, wearing orcish armor isnt actually too bad 02:20 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 189 points, T:844, killed by a wand 02:21 ow 02:21 One hit kill 02:35 <@Shin Umbygashima> Sniped by offscreener? 02:35 <@Shin Umbygashima> Bad RNG can spawn wands in the wrong place and bootleg GWTWOD you 02:46 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1201 points, T:2567, poisoned by a bad case of the plague 02:46 Was going so well 02:47 So much crud gives termal illness it's realyl evilhack 02:48 bad case of the plague... 02:48 gray fern? 02:52 yeah 02:53 Didn't know they had illness and couldn't pray to escape it 02:53 *sigh* 02:55 i learned that the hard way too 02:55 comes from sporkhack 02:55 no ferns in spork 02:56 locusts 02:56 iirc 02:58 grey fungi 02:58 Was the killer 02:58 ah right 02:58 fungus not fern 02:58 thats unnethack i think 02:58 * NCommander dislikes taking his ascension record but kinda wants to beat evilhack 02:58 so many variants 02:58 It's hard, but not in a cheap way 02:58 thank you 02:58 #pray is pretty damn essential 02:59 :/ 03:00 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 03:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 03:00 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:01 one thing i did not mess with was prayer timeout 03:02 yeah, I need to keep careful track of how often I pray and I need a unihorn 03:02 Early game hell :) 03:03 after most/all of the bugs are addressed and after junethack, i want to start work on some optional side branches 03:03 i have a couple (what I think are) neat ideas 03:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:06 * NCommander thinks he needs food 03:06 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c4dd71583018901c44e559af4bc7236df2da0e5e 03:06 Off to the deli to get some real life %s 03:06 ^ hahah 03:06 i need to go to bed 03:08 Lack of early game E is fun 03:08 I need to eat more fortune cookies 03:08 ;) 03:08 gnite and have fun o/ 03:08 you too 03:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:50 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2559 points, T:1597, killed by a giant spider 03:58 uh 03:58 "There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game?" 03:58 I had the game crash, and getting that un relog 03:58 K2, you still awake? 03:59 LarienTelrunya, do you have server admin privs, I need someone to run Recover on my game 04:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha), 1609 points, T:1741, killed by a coyote 04:09 [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Rog Lyc Fem Cha), 841 points, T:1283, killed by a burbling blob 04:14 NCommander: only if you're playing on the esm server 04:14 there seems to be no "NCommander" user registered on the esm server though so I guess you played on hardfought; K2 and Tangles are the admins 04:14 LarienTelrunya, feck. I'm debating if I just want to delete, was just starting, or not. Im working on my slidedeck ATM 04:14 What variants are on ESM? 04:15 NetHack 3.6.0 Slash'EM 0.0.7E7F3 Slash'EM, with the SLethe patch Slash'EM 0.0.8E0F1 Slash'EM Extended GruntHack SporkHack DNHslex And some game—we're not quite sure what it is, the only thing we know for certain is that it isn't dNetHack 04:15 Ah, I've been digging evilHack which isnt there :( 04:16 everyone seems to be playing evilhack these days :P 04:22 LarienTelrunya, it seems interesting 04:22 Crashy though :( 04:22 but it's also evil :D 04:22 I may try xNetHack again 04:22 I'd like to ascend this year 04:27 ascend it during junethack for our clan! :) 04:30 * NCommander kicks his internet 04:32 NCommander's Internet reels from the kick. 04:32 NCommander's Internet spreads fake news about NCommander! 04:33 Well I do have Verizon ... 04:33 so accurate 04:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] NCommander (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 196 points, T:735, killed by a black pudding 04:43 oh that was stupid 04:45 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:50 pff I read from the corner of my eye "I've never ascended a librarian" 04:50 I thought "does that exist? WANT!" 04:50 A wizard? 04:50 but no, [07:36] I've never ascended a barbarian 04:50 in slex, librarian is actually a role :D I want to eventually try playing one again 04:51 * LarienTelrunya has also never ascended a librarian 04:51 but you've programmed one! 04:52 yes, the idea for it came from someone at gamefaqs :) 04:54 in these books librarians are a sort of wizards https://www.goodreads.com/series/145608-the-invisible-library 04:55 i've read the first one in that series. meant to get more, but haven't yet 04:56 I've read two or three and we actually have two more but I haven't got round to it, they're on paper and I have about 20 unread books on my ereader which is much easier to carry around 04:56 heh. yup. 04:56 i want to read a good book again 04:57 somehow for the last years i keep just recycle-reading the diskworld books 04:57 * LarienTelrunya always has at least one thick book in her backpack in case she is forced to hang around at a remote train station for 2 hours straight (it happens :P) 04:57 stennowork: try the craft sequence by max gladstone 04:57 yes 04:57 thanks for the tip, i will check it out 04:57 it's so frustrating to get stranded without anything to read 05:00 frigging bones 05:01 any reading matter? 05:01 if only a T-shirt 05:03 paper speed boots ... 05:03 Game ... 05:11 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:11 !lastgame MayoiSnail 05:11 NCommander: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MayoiSnail/xnethack/dumplog/1555959303.xnh.txt 05:12 looks like a double bones 05:15 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:20 * NCommander kicks his laptop's battery 06:21 that doesn't make it better 06:22 NCommander, killed by kicking a laptop battery 06:24 KAPOOM 06:24 *KABOOM 06:24 you survived that attempt on your life 06:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5978 06:40 * NCommander forgot to drop his holy water and lost it to a pyrolisk 06:40 *sigh 06:40 At least it was reflection 06:43 [hdf-us] [4k] rog (zor) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3375 points, T:281, killed by a gnome lord 06:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:51 * NCommander debates what to do next 06:54 NCommander: play slex on esm *bundlebundlebundle!* (or DNHslex!) 06:54 i assume they mean 'what to do next in this xnh game' 06:55 oh damn 06:57 well if I have to give a hint for xnethack, it would be to wish for a wand of detect door traps :D (unfortunately that doesn't exist though) 07:01 secret door detection also detects traps. it should also detect door traps, too. but that certainls needs extra code 07:01 * NCommander zaps a wand of detect traps at LarienTelrunya 07:02 You feel threatened. --More-- 07:02 * LarienTelrunya reveals her true shape! NCommander's sanity increases 07:02 . 07:16 * NCommander wonders what LarienTelrunya's true shape is 07:17 it is probably vaguely humanoid ;) 07:17 K2: my evil game crashed again 07:17 Is it an elf? 07:17 going downstairs this time 07:17 Andrio: nah that's my LarienTelrunya form 07:17 ah 07:18 !tell K2 my game crashed again, going downstairs this time 07:18 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, elenmirie. 07:19 !tell K2 my evil game also crashed and news recovery 07:19 Will do, NCommander! 07:19 [hdf-us] [4k] norg (zor) (Sam Gia Fem Law), 12705 points, T:2516, killed by a gnome lord 07:19 LarienTelrunya, I suppose it's the shape shoes take when sentient? 07:19 hahaha :D 07:20 * NCommander uses the opportunity to tie up LarienTelrunya with her own laces, and then runs away as my SAN score decreases 07:22 * NCommander closes xnh for now 07:22 made it to mine's end 07:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:38 * NCommander goes for some more % in RL 07:38 Make sure it's not tainted. 07:38 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Mer Nbn Neu), 135 points, T:409, killed by a wand 07:46 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Bat Mal Law), 1310 points, T:746, killed by a black unicorn 07:59 * NCommander returns with A - bread with guave filling 08:00 * NCommander applies A to m - microwave for T:100 08:00 * NCommander eats bread with gauve filling (hot) 08:00 That was extremely satisfying! You're having a hard time getting it all down. 08:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] NCommander (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7959 08:22 ... saves me from having to ID it :) 08:26 Price-IDing it isn't hard in many cases anyway 08:27 More so if you get the one with the mimics. 08:29 elenmirie ok one min 08:29 K2: Message from elenmirie at 2019-04-23 07:18 EDT: my game crashed again, going downstairs this time 08:29 K2: Message from NCommander at 2019-04-23 07:19 EDT: my evil game also crashed and news recovery 08:30 NCommander ok 08:30 its an issue with monster steeds and bones 08:30 Andrio, true but its still nice 08:35 ugh 08:35 bunch of spellbooks, no holy water 08:35 (all cursed, bones pile) 08:36 Got any remove curse scrolls? 08:36 Andrio, no, and havent identified it yet 08:36 game has been somewhat stingy with ?oI 08:36 There was one that was uncursed, got force bolt out of it 08:37 and I started with protection which is very powerful 08:37 * NCommander also got jumping and clarvionce 08:37 Got any unidentified scrolls of the right price? 08:37 Do you feel very jumpy? 08:40 Andrio, haven't checked, I'm just sorted out my inventory from Mine's End 08:40 I've been container-less thus far 08:40 Not even a sack :( 08:42 ah 08:43 Ah, ok, I do have one 08:43 Two actually remove cursed 08:43 since I know enchant armor 08:43 one is cursed, one is uncursed 08:44 Nice 08:44 You can bless the uncursed one and use it to uncurse the cursed one 08:45 No holy water 08:45 And I've been eating meat as a monk so I don't know if my alignment is good to safely convert an altar 08:45 May head down to the quest level and convert the unaligned altar, probably safest 08:46 also don't have a source of confusion :/ 08:47 Remember that a stethoscope or wand of probing will tell you that. 08:47 wait, potion of confusion 08:48 if you happen to have those. 08:48 Don't have either 08:48 mm 08:48 Thinking heading down the main dungeon is the safest move at this time 08:48 I'm stashing my cursed items in Minetown for now 08:50 I'm going to blank some scrolls and make water out of a bunch of potions 08:50 That should give me a good amount of inventory slots 09:06 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 09:07 NCommander, elenmirie - evilhack games recovered 09:07 sorry for delay 09:07 hi K2 *fleece bundle!* :) 09:07 monday has carried over into tuesday 09:07 LarienTelrunya it's not gonna be until later today, sorry 09:07 yesterday was public holiday here in germany 09:08 K2: alright, the repo will hopefully still be there later :D 09:13 portal located 09:14 K2, be nice if there was a way to do recovery from the menu :( 09:14 it would 09:14 in the sysconf there's an option to uncomment recovery but i have never tested it (3.6.x) 09:14 high time that happened i suppose 09:15 is that like autorecover for dnethack/slex/other crashy variants? 09:15 yes 09:18 woo, chaotic altar 09:21 K2: reading the code it seems only to output system specific recover instructions 09:23 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 09:24 Ok, accepted for the quest, know my alignment is good, and I have a few vials of holy water 09:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:32 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 09:33 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 09:33 Thinking backtrack, decurse those spellbooks and see what we get that's good 09:33 still no unihorn :/ 09:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:38 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Fem Cha) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:3821 09:40 never seen that announce before 09:45 neat 09:46 yeah its not common 09:48 I’m not sure if its some new status thing that happened to me or a botched part of the game update, but I cant remember any rooms I walk into. Maybe cause I have an Int of 5? 09:50 <{Demo}2> did a zombie eat ur brain? 09:50 yeah 09:50 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 12714 points, T:4487, killed by a panther, while praying 09:50 Bugpowder there was a recent update which slightly editied dungeon features assignment. already created dungeons and item will seem weird 09:50 thats my fault 09:51 moving forward, newly generated maps/items are fine 09:51 <{Demo}2> one time i #chatted an incubus and he told me "im not a zombie but i love getting brain" and that made me sad 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3192 09:54 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 09:55 !who 09:55 K2: [hdf-us] Bartlem [nh362] post163 [slex] Naltrac [4k] Hekik [xnh] | [hdf-eu] AlbertB [nh362] mightyquinn [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:56 [hdf-us] [4k] Naltrac (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2190 points, T:891, killed by a Mr. Bojolali, the shopkeeper 09:56 <{Demo}2> i think ill do more work on symbiote race 09:57 EvilHack updated (all servers) 09:57 ^ minor bug fixes, rumors update 09:57 <{Demo}2> what i just came up with 2 good rumors in the last couple days and i bet they didnt make it in :P 09:57 heh 09:58 I didnt feel '{Demo}2 can suck it' would have made for a good rumor 09:58 not appropriate 09:58 <{Demo}2> "You can't use Elbereth until you've learned it. Oh, wait..." this is a good one 09:58 :P 09:59 <{Demo}2> i should add some new rumors to ndnh and maybe remove some dumb ones that dont matter 10:04 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 10:05 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3701 10:12 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:23 <{Demo}2> so I'm researching some of the sheol monsters I want to adapt from un 10:24 yay sheol monsters 10:24 they are all cool imo 10:24 <{Demo}2> apparently chillbugs don't have a chill attack 10:25 @?chillbug 10:25 chillbug (x) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold poison acid | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: sheol | AC: 0 | Attacks: 6d5 bite physical, 6d5 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, poisonous 10:25 should be bite cold instead? idk 10:25 physical is usually harder 10:26 but they are super hard 10:26 because they share their HP 10:26 and have some weird other rules, idk 10:26 i assume adeon was high on salmiakki when he coded it 10:27 <{Demo}2> oh yikes there are gimmicks? 10:27 yes the infamous salmiakki high 10:27 best high ever 10:27 ^_^ 10:27 <{Demo}2> what kind of other monsters have gimmicks like that? 10:27 you just want to inhale all that white powder 10:27 like chillbugs? none, to my knowledge 10:27 Adeon, ikr 10:27 <{Demo}2> there seems to be a freeze thing, is that like paralysis that can be prevented by cold res? 10:28 chillbugs are beetles that have been painted blue 10:28 I think they were originally called blinkers 10:28 because I wanted them to teleport around like crazy 10:29 but that was just too crazy 10:29 <{Demo}2> ndnh's ice branch is a gnomish mines alternative so obviously all sheol monsters that get adapted are getting toned down but I wonder if the hp share for chill bugs isn't a bad idea 10:30 they all have regen 10:30 and equalize hp among them 10:30 so a big swarm of them is hard to kill 10:30 I suggest on downstairs you immediately have 8 around the player 10:31 lol 10:31 on d:2 10:31 and lock the door until they die 10:31 sounds legit 10:31 <{Demo}2> yeah ok hp regen will have to go 10:32 <{Demo}2> what is it exactly that white nagas spit? 10:34 @?white naga 10:34 white naga (N) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 14 | Res: cold poison | Confers: cold poison | MR: 40 | Generates: sheol | AC: 2 | Attacks: 2d6 bite physical, 0d0 spit cold | Alignment: 5 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, thick hide, oviparous 10:34 @?black naga 10:34 black naga (N) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 14 | Res: poison acid petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 10 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 2d6 bite physical, 0d0 spit acid | Alignment: 4 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, thick hide, oviparous 10:34 they spit skittles 10:34 oh i bet it's this strange drop of acid or so 10:34 taste the rainbow 10:34 that exists but is only wishable in wizmode and might crash the game in certain circumstance 10:34 s 10:35 i think in wizmode you can wish for it and throw it and then the dungeon collapses 10:35 oslt 10:35 Segfault venom 10:36 ah yes 'venom' 10:36 {Demo}2, check objects.c and grep for Venom 10:36 that should be the thing 10:36 grunthack had a similar issue 10:37 Tangles_ fixed it 10:37 <{Demo}2> I think I'll just replace winter wolf cubs and baby white dragons in the ice caves with white naga hatchlings and chillbugs 10:37 oh wait... not spitting itself, but wishing for the spit causes a segfault? 10:37 <{Demo}2> and maybe some white nagas 10:39 * NCommander blehs 10:39 stennowork, it's actually possible to get it in regular play, at least in 343 10:40 <{Demo}2> land it in water? 10:40 Yeah 10:41 Then get it with a bullwhip or other water item retrieve methods 10:41 hah nice 10:41 didn't know that 10:41 <{Demo}2> ndnh had that problem with lava balls 10:41 <{Demo}2> was a problem cause lava balls in water should just be rocks 10:43 <{Demo}2> players polyd into white nagas in un do indeed spit the appropriate projectile 10:49 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:49 * NCommander has to give a presentation in an hour and is fried :( 10:51 :( you'll make it! 10:52 you can DO EET 10:52 i'm fried too 10:53 i need to catch up on sleep but there's literally not enough hours in the day 10:54 <[Demo]> get more hours 10:55 i know right? 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 67 points, T:303, killed by a small mimic 11:12 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 11:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 660 points, T:1309, killed by a coyote, while praying 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 8132 points, T:6771, killed by a death ray 11:20 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 11:21 I've done that in 3.6.1 11:21 Good Bad Bugs 11:25 <{Demo}2> stupid and dumb infinite loops 11:28 Andrio, done what? 11:28 The venom in water trick 11:30 Andrio, well, having hacked on NetHack, it's amazing how fragile the codebase is and how any tweaks can easily cause it to self destruct :( 11:31 totally offtopic but 'venom' by little simz is one of my favorite tracks right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh8Q2iytzns 11:31 mm 11:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:42 <{Demo}2> hmm i need to figure out how to unwield a weapon 11:44 x 11:44 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2584 points, T:1541, struck down by a watch captain, while sleeping 11:44 or w- 11:44 <{Demo}2> nah programatically unwield appropriately 11:45 <{Demo}2> ugh yikes 11:45 just check with dowield how '-' is handled 11:46 <{Demo}2> a whole chain mess of helper functions that i already thought i ripped the proper shit from but no, artifacts are still being a problem 11:47 figures 11:50 !commands 11:50 jonathanhanes: available commands are !help !ping !time !pom !hello !booze !beer !potion !tea !coffee !whiskey !vodka !rum !tequila !scotch !goat !lotg !d(1-1000) !(1-50)d(1-1000) !8ball !rng !role !race !variant !tell !source !lastgame !lastasc !asc !streak !rcedit !scores !sb !setmintc !whereis !players !who !commands 11:50 !8ball will the maple leafs win tonight? 11:50 jonathanhanes: Better not tell you now 11:50 >.> 11:52 a leaf fan? really? 11:52 sounds like icehockey 11:53 k2: what have you done to wizards besides take away about half their weapons skills? 11:53 leaf fans are a special breed 11:56 * NCommander gets ready to present his talk on DNS security 11:56 this should be trivial compared to ascending ... 11:58 * LarienTelrunya read that as RNG security 12:00 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 12:01 k2: this ring of warning behaves strangely 12:03 i don't see any numbers. i see occasional dark Is but they don't move and when i get there i don't see any monster. 12:03 i do attack thin air 12:04 hm. that could be a side effect of this cornuthaum 12:07 ok the Is are from clairvoyance. scratch that part. ring of warning still isn't giving me any warning 12:07 you in right now still? 12:07 yes 12:08 did you do anything to compensate for taking away all those weapons? 12:08 yeah. wizards start with a really cool pet 12:09 plus, wizards arent melee fighters. they're lucky to know anything about any of them 12:09 yes but can it survive the zombies? 12:09 perhaps 12:09 i'm not complaining or asking for changes, i just wanted to know if you'd done anything else. couldn't find anything in the changelog 12:10 so the warning bit 12:10 can you show me whats happening? 12:10 i'll try. i need to get out of sight of these zombies 12:11 hm. or not. that zombie sholdn't be out of range should it? 12:11 kobold zombies are lvl 0 12:11 *facepalm* 12:11 btw some variants would tell me that 12:12 0 12:12 yeah grunthack does 12:12 anger your pet and blindfold yourself :) 12:13 ok. next question, will SYMBOLS=S_forge work? 12:13 i should just try 12:14 maybe 12:14 what do you want to change it to? 12:14 hah an ice box 12:14 LUCKY 12:15 i want it to be xf4, so it would be a red fountain 12:17 YASI: if you change the symbol for the forge to that of an ice box, it starts behaving like an ice box. 12:19 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Mal Law), 206 points, T:1212, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 12:22 is "unsuccessful polymorph" death due to system shock? I thought the message for that was "killed by system shock" 12:22 -!- wvc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:26 hothraxxa: xf4 is already supported for forge 12:27 unsuccessful polymorph is getting level-drained by a polymorph below XL1 I think? 12:27 what gfx mode are you using hothraxxa? 12:27 <{Demo}2> I should know I'm battling the polymorph code right now 12:33 sorry k2, i was called away. i'm using cp437 in kitty 12:34 no worries 12:34 dec or ibm graphics? 12:34 ibm 12:34 that should work... it does on my end 12:34 right now a forge is red { 12:34 forges look like the pretty fountains, just orange 12:34 i was about to change it when wife called me 12:35 lemme know when you're on again 12:37 i am now 12:37 but the forge is upstairs and i'm g=headed into the mines 12:38 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:39 oops 12:40 what kind of iron bars get blown apart by a simple force bolt from a level 2 wizard? i demand to know the name of this supplier 12:42 k2: this pseudodragon picks up the whole pile of zorkmids. is that intended behaviour? 12:43 hmm maybe... they like gold like big dragons do 12:44 i don't know yet if it picks the entire stack of anything else 12:44 and iron bars can be broken by force bolt/wand of striking if the wall its in is diggable 12:44 from xnh 12:44 this is handy if i ever get him to a shop 12:45 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Car Dro Nbn Cha), 2400 points, T:3220, defeated by a gnome king 12:47 so how is that venom thing supposed to work? 12:47 <{Demo}2> ideally the player never can pick up venom 12:47 good, forges now look like red fountains 12:47 well, i can't reproduce venom-in-water in 362-dev 12:47 <{Demo}2> but if venom is spit across water and reaches its max distance it can be thrown then it will land in the water 12:48 <{Demo}2> and not break cause it isn't hitting a hard surface 12:48 Talk complete 12:48 <{Demo}2> I have no idea if it is present in 3.6 but know it is in 3.4.3, if it has been patched I might want to steal the commit 12:49 LarienTelrunya, I'm involved in a project to reverse engineer the state of the Minecraft RNG via detention of lots and lots of TNT and calculating the angels in which it flies 12:49 {Demo}2, try it on Medusa 12:49 I can compile 3.6.2-dev and see if I can reproduce it locally 12:50 hm. i can see the venom objects with debugger, yes 12:50 <{Demo}2> ncommander java or bedrock? 12:51 {Demo}2, Java 12:51 {Demo}2, bedrock was written by monkeys as best I can tell. It's why redstone is so fucked up 12:52 <{Demo}2> wouldn't monkeys write a less secure prng? 12:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:53 hothraxxa, iron bars are made by the finest Yendorian Blacksmiths out of raw yasdism/iron alloy. 12:53 You see here 13 splashes of venom. 12:53 lol 12:53 yum 12:53 There's a YAFM with venom 12:53 they don't coalesce like globs apparently 12:53 need that for my magic potion 12:53 Try to engrave with it 12:54 (you can also grease venom blobs. I don't know how that works ...) 12:54 eat it 12:54 Don't think there's a message for THAT 12:54 <{Demo}2> I can't remember if I ever fixed lava spit in water in ndnh or not 12:55 paxed: in non-wizmode? 12:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] MayoiSnail (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 503 points, T:1902, killed by a little dog 12:55 hmm somebody submitted a simple 'it explodes' thing to the qdb 12:56 i mean we probably have a few of those already in the qdb 12:56 NCommander: oh so you do indeed research RNG, nice :) 12:56 stenno: in wizmode. but the splashes should get destroyed anyway 12:56 gotcha 12:56 and can you crash the game now :) 12:57 LarienTelrunya, if I was truly a masochist, I'd devise a way to determine the state of the RNG on Dl:1 on SLEX :) 12:57 stenno, I do wonder what proportion of the quotes database is SLEX quotes 12:57 <{Demo}2> I don't think acid splashes can crash the game? 12:57 heh, slex has a lot of RNG, so much in fact that using a CSPRNG would make it laggy as hell 12:57 a certain amount 12:58 <{Demo}2> how does one crash the game with an acid splash item? 12:58 {Demo}2: they can, similar to burning oil thingies 12:58 LarienTelrunya, you just have to reseed the standard one with a CSPRNG on regular occassions to make it safe. Say every 100 RNG rolls 12:58 lemme find the bug 12:59 hm 12:59 maybe variant paranoia, can't find it 13:00 It would crash if there was venom in a container when dumplog fired 13:00 I believe that was fixed 360 13:00 NCommander: IIRC I tried that and it was still unplayably laggy 13:01 fixed by not having dumplog at all in 3.6.0? :D 13:01 <{Demo}2> nao fixed that 13:01 Nah, someone just engrave Elbereth in the playground 13:01 <{Demo}2> after it was discovered 13:01 "The dumplog turns and runs" 13:01 *engraved 13:01 <{Demo}2> similar to burning oil thingies? 13:01 LarienTelrunya, compared to? :) 13:01 {Demo}2: search for 'oil' http://nethack.org/v343/bugs.html 13:01 NCommander: compared to without the CSPRNG 13:01 several bugs related to that 13:02 objects get destroyed in strange ways 13:02 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Law) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2505 13:02 LarienTelrunya, reseed it then once every 1000 T, or when levels change. 13:02 I remember there was a 343 bug relating to lava that could get you stuck outside time. 13:02 yes 13:03 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Law), 6603 points, T:2516, killed by a water moccasin 13:03 but i don't think anyone ever figured out how to reproduce it 13:03 well it's fixed so 13:03 SC343-18 13:04 Guess there's a TARDIS buried on the Plane of Fire 13:04 dr who theme song in my head, check 13:05 <{Demo}2> are you thinking of the cream pie bug? 13:05 a - sonic screwdriver (0:infinity) (wielded) 13:05 {Demo}2: no 13:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] MayoiSnail (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 105 points, T:709, killed by a burning book 13:05 <{Demo}2> the lava bug was figured out eventually 13:05 well it's probably similar 13:05 <{Demo}2> I forgot what it was but ais knows 13:06 iirc, it meant that if you were in lava, using any non-time-consuming commands would still {de,in}crement the time you were stuck in the lava 13:06 it was _not_ the other lava bug which made every action cost time 13:06 no i think that was another one 13:06 ah. i don't remember an other one 13:07 that was C343-231 fixed Time is distorted while sinking into lava. 13:07 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 2178 points, T:887, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 13:07 NCommander meant SC343-18 fixed Escaping from lava can leave hero outside of time. 13:08 <{Demo}2> yeah I swear ais knows about that one 13:08 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 852 points, T:470, killed by a water moccasin 13:08 <{Demo}2> either that or its a myth 13:09 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 13:11 ah 13:11 sc343-18 is commit d302e6252be60cbb63ef4ce7de7dc446ae710e64 13:13 <{Demo}2> ah 13:14 <{Demo}2> I bet this isn't patched in dnh and therefore not in ndnh 13:15 commit message implies that wizmode is neccessary to trigger it 13:16 <{Demo}2> wonder if a poly from a likes_lava monster back to human would trigger it and no stenno, that's only for water 13:16 <{Demo}2> actually I think that calls spoteffects 13:16 <{Demo}2> so poly/rehumanize wouldn't work 13:17 sc343-18 is #H260, to be more specific 13:17 oh maybe you are in lava but jump against an adjacent wall 13:18 what happens if you are stuck and put on fireproof ww boots 13:21 ugh 13:21 I'm tired, but want to play NetHack 13:21 this isn't a good combo 13:22 NCommander add alcohol to the mix 13:22 !booze NCommander 13:22 * Beholder passes NCommander a schooner of grog, prayed over by demogorgon at 35 degrees Fahrenheit. 13:23 * NCommander staggers 13:24 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) were saved from death by your amulet of life saving!, on T:4511 13:25 hm, I can see two things wrong with that message 13:25 perhaps three 13:25 "were" should be "was", "your" should be "their" and there should be only one punctuation mark after "saving" 13:26 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 10005 points, T:4704, killed by a gnome king 13:26 <{Demo}2> oh wait this has nothing to do with escaping time 13:26 no, just the beholder message 13:26 <{Demo}2> just being allowed to chill above lava 13:26 yes 13:27 its a bit dramatic 13:28 <{Demo}2> so the bug report text was just a dramatization of the bug? 13:29 * NCommander blinks 13:29 <{Demo}2> this is hardly a bug, pits act the same way 13:30 <{Demo}2> I have a way spicier lava bug I need to check if is patched in 3.6.x 13:53 * NCommander is reading LarienTelrunya's let's play to kill time 13:53 LarienTelrunya, why aren't you a fan of the curses interface 13:53 yay! thanks! :) 13:53 uhh, for starters, the multi-line message window means I constantly miss important messages 13:54 and yes I know this is gonna sound awkward, but I actually like to have a --More-- for each line of text 13:59 how do you help monsters out of pits again? 13:59 #untrap 13:59 LarienTelrunya, ah, that's fair. FIQHack made important messages pause the game and go purple. 14:00 tangles added a thing called MSGTYPE=alert 14:00 NCommander: that's actually even more annoying, because I have to always go out of my way to reach for the tab key! 14:00 you have to hit tab to continue 14:00 and in curses all the borders turn red 14:00 that's it, thank you 14:00 LarienTelrunya, >.>; 14:00 362-hdf has it 14:00 LarienTelrunya, I find it hard to play without curses, even though I've ascended !colors. 14:00 as does evilhack, xnethack and maybe splicehack 14:01 NCommander: well slex supports curses mode ;) 14:01 Ugh, need to go see my roommate and give him shit he forgot 14:01 guess Ill play xnh when I get back 14:01 LarienTelrunya, maybe I'll try SLEX again 14:01 :D 14:01 if you're gonna do that, please either play on esm or wait until it's also on hdf, since you don't want to play the crappy old 2.42 version 14:01 LarienTelrunya, possibly in ironman, seems like its more straightforward though hard 14:02 ironman mode is actually one of the things that should *especially* be easier in the new version, due to some changes I made to special room generation! 14:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Ana Inc Fem Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1504 14:02 yeah I was catching up on your thread 14:02 * NCommander is just trying to unwind given he finds public speaking stressful 14:03 Talk is up on YT though 14:03 NCommander next time you have to speak to a large group 14:03 brb 14:03 imagine everyone naked except for wearing black socks 14:03 works like a charm 14:03 This was remote and no video feed of the audience 14:03 ah 14:04 And the audience might have LarienTelrunya's bundles hiding in it 14:04 :/ 14:18 [hdf-us] [sp] Lachtain (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 261 points, T:932, killed by a small mimic 14:21 Back 14:21 LarienTelrunya, evil patch idea: a trap that changes all the messages to a different language 14:21 NCommander: there are two playable races that change item names to different languages ;) 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh4] elr4 (yann) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 26171 points, T:1806, killed by a water moccasin 14:22 LarienTelrunya, Samuari and? 14:22 nah, races: soviet and ancient 14:22 samurai only changes a few item names; those two races change *all of them* 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2558 points, T:2698, killed by a pony 14:23 In Soviet NetHack, Amulet Ascends With You? 14:23 D 14:24 whoops 14:24 meant to type :D but windows ate the : for some reason 14:24 NCommander hah 14:24 english to hebrew, go 14:24 have fun with right to left 14:25 K2, ugh, that also requires full UTF-8 ... in a variant of C that was old when the first ones and zeros were etched into stones. 14:25 :) 14:26 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 14:26 Actually, thinking about it, opening up the NH source code is like looking into a time window in the past 14:26 archeologists today discovered an ascii handbook buried with the remains of homo erectus... 14:27 when we coded with ed, vi was a luxury item, and the C compiler cost $699 extra and segfaulted regularly 14:27 that better have been some awesome segfaults 14:28 You got a dump of core memory followed by a lp0 on fire error 14:29 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:34 LarienTelrunya, "chcp 437" - reading your LP makes me remember when that was a thing we did on DOS :( 14:34 NCommander: heh, there was a time when I thought I was playing a "dos version" of nethack because it ran in cmd 14:35 DOS codepages are best sent to /dev/null 14:35 LarienTelrunya, that must have been long ago before you entered the terror halls of a C programmer 14:36 why? I discovered nethack about 6-7 years ago and actually went ahead and said "hey here's a dos binary of slex!" on my first release :D 14:37 LarienTelrunya, the first version of SLEX probably was compilable on DOS 14:37 ... I should try doing that again if nothing else for the sheer lol factor 14:41 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: stealing from shopkeepers] 14:45 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:48 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:48 i was hungry and then i ate some chocolate and now i am not hungry anymore 14:49 should've gotten some actual food 14:50 stenno, I just did that with a bag of combos 14:50 >.> 14:50 whats that? 14:51 it's little preztels with a stuffing, in this case, pizzeria 14:52 oh yeah i see 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh4] ra1 (yann) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 23205 points, T:1051, killed by a water moccasin 14:52 that looks deadly 14:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Ana Inc Fem Neu), 19111 points, T:3427, killed by discharging wands 14:54 nice 14:55 jonadab: I've considered making pets seek intrinsics 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] mid (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3096 15:00 discharging wands? 15:00 cursed wand explosion? 15:03 bhaak: did unnethack ever have any issues placing up and down stairs in the same room? 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger on an altar, on T:3044 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3066 15:06 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 5252 points, T:4724, killed by a chameleon imitating a vampire bat 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] mid (Kni Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by consulting with the priest of Lugh, on T:5008 15:18 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Inf Nbn Cha), 2939 points, T:1832, dispatched by a dwarf king 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:778 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 303 points, T:925, killed by a small mimic 15:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1048 points, T:476, killed by a dwarf lord 15:34 k2: speaking of which, my game started with the downstairs right next to the upstairs 15:34 yeah 15:34 why i asked 15:35 why is that an issue? 15:35 the random vaults in evilhack... the cool looking rooms 15:35 mklev.c and mkroom.c 15:35 evilhack shares a lot of the same code with unnethack 15:35 i like evilhack levles 15:35 <{Demo}2> im gonna vault down the stairs 15:35 <{Demo}2> and take fall dmg 15:36 been looking at the code, comparing evilhack vs vanilla vs unnethack 15:36 no 'ah ah' moment syet 15:36 *ah hah 15:37 <{Demo}2> any haha moments? 15:37 daily 15:38 flipping hallucation 15:38 still can't find a unihorn :( 15:39 Team u is oddly unrespresented in this game 15:40 <{Demo}2> team u die now 15:40 <{Demo}2> not to be confused with team ahhhhhh i died 15:41 <{Demo}2> or team Lol ur dead 15:42 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Kni Ang Mal Law), 2350 points, T:2082, sent to the next life by a platypus 15:42 yay, found the portal to the fort 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29344 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 boots of speed", on T:29385 15:47 "The glowing lava glows for a moment." 15:48 wow 15:48 deep 15:48 <{Demo}2> im impressed as well 15:48 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 15:49 I'm debating if I want to advance Martial Arts past expert 15:52 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:53 !whereis NCommander 15:53 K2: [hdf-us] NCommander [xnh]: (Mon Hum Mal Cha) T:14005 The Dungeons of Doom level: 16 15:53 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 15:53 if going for weaponless? heck yeah you do 15:53 I'm waiting out a quaffed hallucation 15:53 yes 15:53 I think I broke that conduct 15:53 you can check with #conduct 15:54 I did 15:54 Hit with pickaxe 15:54 I'm Elberethless 15:54 though 15:54 nou 15:54 * K2 invents new monk martial arts attack - jedi hand trick 15:54 lol 15:54 but can we get gauntlets of force in every variant pls 15:55 they are maybe in evilhack? 15:56 I may invest the skill points ... 15:56 So few weapons are worthwhile 15:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:01 K2: the issue being that it happens or that it doesn't happen? 16:01 I have the feeling I'm going to hit medusa before I find a BoH 16:02 bhaak: that its happening 16:02 bhaak: it happens in evilhack 16:02 you see here a cursed -2 lead helmet 16:03 lead? 16:03 irc joke 16:03 :) 16:03 two people, same thought 16:04 k2: your eyes tingle for a brief moment 16:04 from a magic trap, what does it mean? 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh4] r2 (yann) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 31888 points, T:2672, killed by a watchman 16:05 gonna say i should have been blinded but i wasn't for some reason 16:05 you now have perm see invis 16:06 oh cool. it just negated one of my starting rings 16:06 -!- AlbertB has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:06 at least i didn't start with a ring of poison resistance 16:07 i tink that doesn't happen anymore in 3.6 based 16:07 +h 16:07 to orc wizards 16:08 pseudodragon pet is v. cool. where do i learn about them? 16:09 hothraxxa nope orcs wont spawn with ring of poison res in 3.6 16:09 hothraxxa https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a35c0cb282daf46c9338e66a0302ad3d00d38c49 16:10 i have an elder pseudodragon. is that half gron or full grown? 16:10 full 16:10 <{Demo}2> I have an elder minotaur how far is that? 16:10 full 16:11 I'm not sure. but if unnethack has it, shouldn't 3.6 have it as well? 16:11 <{Demo}2> oh that's a weak pet 16:11 <{Demo}2> in dnh pseudodragons grow up super far and have like 5 stages 16:11 ok thanks for that. how do i determine carrying capacity? 16:11 w00t 16:11 found genocide 16:12 * hothraxxa genocides NCommander 16:12 {Demo}2 comapred to a starting kitten or dog? i think not 16:13 i should add a third level to pseudodragons 16:13 that will save break 16:13 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 0 points, T:38, killed by a little dart 16:13 so... later version 16:14 <{Demo}2> in dnh they are weaker than kitten 16:14 <{Demo}2> but grow to stronger than dragons 16:14 yeah i saw what dnh did 16:14 <{Demo}2> it's dumb don't do it 16:14 didnt even want to get that crazy with it 16:14 <{Demo}2> yeah 16:14 <{Demo}2> it's not evil enough 16:14 i didnt even know dnh ad them until after i made it for evilhack 16:15 thought i had something unique 16:15 *had 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:30384 16:15 yes but how much can it pick up? (really important) 16:15 i dont know 16:15 <{Demo}2> that's a good question 16:15 i can't see in the code how that's determined 16:15 <{Demo}2> what size is it? 16:15 its same size as a cat/dog so roundabout there 16:16 MZ_SMALL 16:16 there's a big difference between housecat and dog 16:16 or large cat and large dog for that matter 16:16 dog is MZ_MEDIUM 16:17 housecat MZ_SMALL 16:17 large dog same size as dog 16:17 which... doesnt make sense 16:17 so same as a housecat, which is fair because wizards start with kittens, except kittens grow to large cats 16:17 yup 16:17 ok and means that carrying capacity isn't determined by size 16:18 but pseudodragons from ad&d never grew larger than your typical tabby cat 16:18 that's fine, i will hope it can lift as much as a large cat 16:18 you can show invweight now 16:18 but if it's just a housecat, well... 16:18 you knew that right? 16:19 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 16:19 h,. it's not on so i guess i didn't 16:19 i made it off by default (i personally dont want to see it unless I am testing stuff) 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:30677 16:19 shift+o look for invweight 16:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:20 hm, so it's the reverse of xnh 16:21 it shows in the inventory command but not in the curses inventory 16:21 Finally found genocide 16:21 er 16:21 unihorn 16:21 you still here? didn't i genocide you? 16:22 I'm a @, not genocidable 16:22 well i polyed you to a newt first 16:22 they are genocidable :P 16:22 the infamous 'master mindflayer' 16:22 ... 16:22 * NCommander stops existing 16:23 * stenno wants to make a witty comment about postmodernism but can't think of anything 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:30897 16:23 hothraxxa not in curses? 16:23 oops 16:24 Knife of Viture ... 16:24 Artifact? 16:24 <{Demo}2> is genociding h as an evil hack dwarf a viable strat? 16:24 <{Demo}2> if u r feeling lucky? 16:24 sure 16:24 k2: not with shift+o invweight true 16:25 i should change my rc 16:25 OPTIONS=invweight for the rc 16:26 hmm either aosdict didnt add invweight for curses either or i missed it in another commit 16:26 I'm playing xnh so it's genociding U here 16:27 ty k2 16:27 \o/ 16:27 that works 16:27 and down to medusa with no levitation 16:27 $!@#$ 16:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 1012 points, T:1285, killed by a hobbit 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] abzde (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3002 16:35 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 1699 points, T:1845, killed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food 16:36 i think i have a fix for the 'place monster here x,y crap 16:37 looked at what the DT did in same block of code concerning vault guards 16:37 had my 'ah hah' moment for the day 16:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1103 16:38 ok leaving, see you all from home 16:41 -!- ilbelkyr_ has quit [Quit: :tiuQ] 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:31267 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:31352 16:45 -!- ilbelkyr has joined #hardfought 16:50 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of picaresquieu, the former Adept, on T:2113 16:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Mon Swn Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1224 16:53 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Val Hum Fem Law), 92056 points, T:28306, killed by a leocrotta, while praying 16:56 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Val Hum Fem Neu), 173 points, T:498, killed by a small mimic 16:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] MayoiSnail (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2152 17:00 -!- Jonathan_ has joined #hardfought 17:01 -!- Jonathan_ is now known as jonathanhanes 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4516 17:02 hello 17:02 Hello jonathanhanes, Welcome to #hardfought 17:02 thanks beholderbot 17:03 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:03 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 17:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Brd Elf Mal Cha), 759 points, T:819, killed by a small aklys 17:06 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5605 17:12 I can't remember what translation I should be using 17:12 I thought it was CP437 17:12 but my interface is all wonky 17:12 cp437 is ibmgraphics 17:13 hmm, that's what I have set 17:13 Some setting must be different than what I have on my other comp 17:14 same OS? 17:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] MayoiSnail (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4364 points, T:3923, killed by a priest of Ptah 17:15 cp437 is usually for windows 17:15 decgraphics is usually for anything else 17:15 seems like it was just the font I had selected 17:15 which is odd 17:16 or maybe it isn't o.o 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 4677 points, T:3314, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 17:23 hmmmmm 17:23 I have no way to cross the water at medusa's 17:23 And I can't dig down because all of the tiles are adjacent to water 17:23 <{Demo}2> just drink it all 17:24 gulp gulp 17:24 I do have water breathing if only I had an oilskin sack 17:24 <@Tone> Have a scroll of earth? 17:24 Nope 17:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Brd Inc Fem Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1818 17:25 I will go explore the dungeon again because I haven't played this game in several months 17:25 SO I don't know how thorough I was 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Pri Hum Fem Law), 278 points, T:549, killed by a magic missile 17:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:28 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1777 points, T:3947, killed by a little dog 17:29 -!- {Demo}2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 40 points, T:198, killed by a sewer rat 17:32 jonathanhanes, wand of cold also works. 17:33 Yah I don't have any of that cool stuff 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 52 points, T:201, killed by a kitten called McGee 17:33 I'm curious why I don't have any earth scrolls though 17:33 That seems odd 17:34 Oh I guess I could check my stash 17:34 duh 17:37 Can you not get protection from differently aligned priests? 17:38 And yup, here's my earth scrolls right here where I left them 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:36456 17:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 450 points, T:1258, poisoned by a rotted cave spider corpse, while helpless 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:49594 17:56 -!- Jonathan_ has joined #hardfought 17:59 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:59 !ping 17:59 Jonathan_: Pong! 17:59 -!- Jonathan_ is now known as jonathanhanes 18:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Brd Inc Fem Neu), 15060 points, T:3488, quit 18:02 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 435 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:50026 18:06 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Pir Inf Nbn Cha), 451 points, T:2377, sent to the next life by a boar 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 17890 points, T:11242, petrified by a chickatrice 18:17 <@kriptospicebox> you can get protection from any priest jonathanhanes (in 362 at least) 18:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:24 [hdf-us] [4k] korr (zor) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 9807 points, T:2096, killed by a giant spider 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 717 points, T:2557, killed by an imp 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32145 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:32146 18:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 784 points, T:1506, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:28 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Bar Gul Fem Cha), 378 points, T:893, killed by an arrow 18:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1987 points, T:2948, killed by a soldier ant 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 239 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:51277 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 691 points, T:2368, killed by brainlessness 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32955 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32973 18:34 i don't think i'll survive this. somebody opened the minetown zoo and the mastodon is loose 18:35 the mob is forming up outside possogroenoe's and i'm only at 13 hp 18:36 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Pir Mer Mal Neu), 117 points, T:635, slain by a newt 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:33188 18:37 you got this hothraxxa 18:37 mastodons... pfft 18:38 9 hp 18:38 a gnome hit me. meanie 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:33272 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33273 18:39 meanwhile, someone else is having a bad day 18:40 The gnomish wizard blasts the ceiling with fire and curses! 18:40 The gnomish wizard blasts the ceiling with ice and curses! 18:40 i hope he doesn't kiss his mom with that mouth 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:37827 18:41 i also don't want to meet that guy 18:41 crap the mastodon is trying to get into the shop 18:42 * hothraxxa clasps his unpaid item close to his chest 18:44 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 7066 points, T:7214, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:52154 18:52 new game, stuck in a hallway between two floating eyes 18:52 this is really absurd 18:53 my only chance of killing them is this spellbook of fireball... 85% chance to fail 18:55 * NCommander can't sleep :( 18:56 shouldn'a et that last elf 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:35226 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:35227 18:59 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:01 evilhack fixes on the way! 19:01 fuckin a right 19:01 figured some stuff out 19:01 sounds like that was satisfying 19:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:03 yes 19:03 it was 19:03 still doing some tests (want to be thorough) but so far so good 19:03 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 19:03 this has been pissing me off for days 19:07 sweet 19:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:07 just randomly generated about 500 different levels, not a single 'cant place branch' 19:07 the random vault 'ice room' was cauing it 19:07 causing 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:35616 19:09 i'm about to get dead 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:35667 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53171 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53172 19:12 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 2060 points, T:5405, killed by a rothe 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "partly eaten towel named get pinged by ma wish, son @luxidream#5629", on T:35687 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law), 1899510 points, T:35688, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/I/IceBox/nh361/dumplog/1555625622.nh361.txt 19:14 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 966 points, T:2778, sent to the grave by a bear 19:15 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1070 points, T:3185, killed by a bolt of lightning 19:15 i never shoulda dropped that dart 19:15 :( 19:16 also, i hate the minetown and it's the only one i've seen in evilhack 19:16 icebox congrats! 19:16 very suspicious 19:16 lol the zoo? 19:16 yeah 19:16 there's 6 19:16 5 or 6 19:16 you just have shit luck with evilhack minetown 19:16 it was a crap town. izchak only had mimics and candles 19:17 temple was co-aligned but that wasn't helpful 19:17 evilhack orctown you'll like better 19:17 <@kriptospicebox> thx K2 19:17 its like xnh - barracades shopkeeper 19:17 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 805 points, T:1354, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 19:17 barracaded 19:17 whatever 19:18 that's a decent orc town 19:18 yeah 19:18 as orc towns go 19:18 speaking as an orc 19:18 its tougher than xnh orctown tho 19:18 <@luxidream> smh 19:18 hothraxxa, my first ascension was a minetown that was only he priest and izchaks (343). It was depressing. 19:18 @luxidream you make me sad 19:19 <@luxidream> ? 19:19 already 2 evilhack ascension... where you been? 19:19 <@luxidream> I haven't played nethack in too long 19:19 <@luxidream> I'll give it a shot 19:19 hence the sadness 19:19 before you do, lemme patch it 19:19 <@luxidream> who was first? 19:19 my xnh game is stuck in an annoying area. Went down as far as medusa, no bags, no rings of levitation :( 19:19 <@luxidream> demo? jt? 19:19 i have a fix about to go live 19:20 jt then hothraxxa 19:20 <@kriptospicebox> luxidream has been forging his memes in the deepest fires of dungeon crawl stone soup 19:20 NCommander: if you can avoid starving, all things will come to you eventually 19:20 * NCommander watches K2 zap a wand at evilhack. The bugs in the code stop moving. 19:21 hothraxxa, I have =oSD. I've got a wand of cold so I'm tempted to try and cross Medusa and get down to the Castle and get the first two wishes 19:21 that's a decent plan 19:21 lol 19:21 NCommander i wish 19:21 First time seriously playing monk so it's a bit weird 19:21 just watch out for fire while you're on the ice 19:21 Not sure if I want to go for body armor or a weapon 19:22 3.6.1? 19:22 or 2 19:22 whatever 19:22 hothraxxa, xnh 19:23 ok. i think xnh was one of the variants that i couldn't hit anything reliably when wearing body armour, even at max luck etc etc 19:23 fully enchanted weapon 19:24 i gave up trying weaponless because pickaxe 19:24 hothraxxa, haven't tried since I haven't found any body armor worth shit. That being said, I got protection as my starting spell and +4 ring of protection 19:24 hothraxxa, heh, that happened to me too. 19:24 great for a monk 19:24 The only conduct I ever try is artifact wishless, mostly due to personal taste 19:25 xnh helps with weaponless but i haven't tried it 19:25 I don't ascend regularly enough to try conducts 19:25 i never use elbereth, that's the one i don't break 19:25 That one I still ahve, but more out of happenstance 19:25 I haven't needed it 19:25 hardly ever wish for an artifact 19:25 Got too used to E being nerfed in 360 19:27 i only care about conducts during junethack, otherwise it's by chance 19:27 I only played in junethack last year and I barely had time to play more than a few games. 19:27 * NCommander has only ascended three times, all on different variants and two astral splats 19:28 it's fun because it gets people playing all the variants 19:28 three different variants is a pretty decent record imo 19:29 343 Valk (two year old save game on NAO), 362-dev on NAO Samuri, and FIQHack here Priest 19:29 Splatted a Wizard ... and a Ranger I think? 19:29 I still have a 1/50 ascension record I just don't play that often 19:31 a fiqhack priest is something to be proud of 19:32 hothraxxa, it was almost a survivor too ... I got a bit of misleading advice, and broke Plane of Air 19:33 hothraxxa, https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/7l7e62/yaapfiqhackprielfchamale_the_ascension_where_i/ 19:33 nice, i shall peruse 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:39451 19:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:35 hothraxxa, after you finish that: https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/7eoo6n/yaap_wishing_for_two_blessed_scrolls_of_remove/ 19:36 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided vorpal jabberwocks dungeon wide on T:8416 19:37 Unusual genocide ... 19:38 Any reason to do that in un vs the usual suspects? 19:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:39 <@kriptospicebox> cuz they'll bite yer gosh dern head off maybe? 19:42 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2258 points, T:2383, killed by a gecko, while praying 19:43 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 17202 points, T:7577, killed by a gray unicorn 19:46 instadeath decapitation 19:47 so NCommander i remember when you were making that ascension 19:47 never played em 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 441 points, T:1421, killed by a werejackal 19:47 FIQHack one? 19:47 yeah 19:47 why did you call your A vex, do you remember? 19:48 Cause she showed up tame out of nowhere 19:48 how does that equate to vex? 19:48 My guess was the lich (Challenger) ran in, tamed her, and then she flew over. 19:48 Because I was vexed by it 19:48 ah 19:49 there's a fantasy series that i'm fond of that has a fire elemental named vex 19:49 in fact pavelb started reading it, not sure how that went 19:49 My pet names are usually fairly whimsyical aside from the starters 19:50 one of the reasons i stopped playing fiqhack is that you always have to fight two rodneys 19:51 Rodney with a brain is less than fun 19:51 another is that wand of death behaviour 19:51 i liked your creative approaches though 19:52 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 794 points, T:1558, killed by a rothe 19:52 i had a pet arch lich in fiqhack once, but it killed me because it kept casting spells that affected me 19:53 the famous magical explosions 19:54 hothraxxa, which creative approaches? 19:54 hothraxxa, I think one FH game, I saw darts of denotation. It was stupid. 19:55 those are in grunt. they're great if you have them, not so much when the mordor orcs throw them at you 19:55 creative as in exploiting the casting abilities of your pet 19:56 -!- oleum has quit [Quit: Bye!] 19:56 i don't think it would occur to me to give my pet taming 19:56 taming is extremely important in fiqhack imo 19:58 actually taming is important to me in every variant 19:58 i almost always wish for a magic harp for astral 19:58 I always forget the harp exists 19:59 -!- oleum has joined #hardfought 19:59 I need to try the purple worm trick on astral 19:59 But I usually have little to no ink to spare for spare genocide scrolls 19:59 what do you write? 20:03 usually a lot of enchant armor/weapon, changing and some magic mapping, 20:03 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 171 points, T:714, killed by a jackal 20:05 hothraxxa, I've always bene kinda eh on object modifiers. On one hand, I like things like magic gloves, but then you get silliness like leather gloves of brillance 20:07 those aren't silly, those are great! 20:07 i want some 20:08 anyway, i try not to write enchant weapon/enchant armour because the rng will give those to you 20:08 they are common results from polypiling too 20:09 of course everything depends on context 20:09 !who 20:09 K2: [hdf-us] kdg [dnh] RedArrow [nh362] picaresquieu [un] Lachtain [spl] lizardo [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 20:09 evilhack is really stingy with markers so you have to be selective 20:11 EvilHack updated (all servers) 20:11 ^ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ed8203b63bec50208ebbcb2b57b122e2fef7ce4c 20:11 \o/ 20:11 still more things to fix 20:11 but, progress 20:15 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3220 points, T:2169, killed by a lance 20:29 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 20:30 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1272 points, T:2079, killed by Mr. Croagh, the shopkeeper 20:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1862 points, T:3284, killed by a watch captain 20:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 16225 points, T:4226, killed by a blast of fire 20:51 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:54 where's aosdict 20:54 I've got a bug in xnh to report 20:54 oh wait it sez to reach out to K2 20:55 i dont know, im here 20:55 but im probably not that useful 20:55 just accessing a novel from the inventory menu, it gives me what looks like an exception catch 20:56 oh dear 20:56 aosdict is hiking 20:56 K2 u in 20:56 "Unknown spell skill, 0; --More-- 20:56 hi bhaak 20:56 hi 20:56 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 20:56 hi aoei 20:56 satana 20:56 * K2 pets Beholder 20:56 "Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem."--More-- 20:57 hrm 20:57 "Please report these messages to..." 20:57 for some reason i decided bhaak was finnish... bhaak's hostname would suggest otherwise 20:57 picaresquieu 20:57 yes 20:57 I'm as good at shooting as any finn 20:58 so reading a novel in your inventory causes the program in disorder? 20:58 bhaak, but do you chase away bears by shouting 'satana' at them? 20:58 well that's what it says 20:58 and this is xnethack 20:58 that's correct 20:58 it says "program in disorder" but I'm guessing maybe yall never got around to writing this particular code for the novels, obscure a class of items as it is 20:58 bhaak, deutsch oder französich? 20:59 aoei: we don't have any free roaming bears here at the moment. a few wolves, but they are not near. 20:59 yawn, boóooring 20:59 that's all aosdict 20:59 then again we have no bears or wolves for that matter 20:59 if you're lucky you might see a fox 20:59 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of picaresquieu, the former Acolyte, on T:2242 21:00 it gives me this data: "Level 1 spellbook, in the school. Ray spell. | Takes 0 actions to read. | Base cost 20, weighs 20 aum. | Takes 5 to 9 ink to write. | Normally made of paper." 21:00 aoei: je ne parle pas français 21:00 !tell aosdict picaresquieu reports a 'program in disorder' error when reading a novel in open inventory (xnethack) 21:00 No worries, K2, I've got this! 21:00 bhaak, gott sei dank 21:00 ich hasse französich 21:00 that's the price for living in a proper civilisation. no wild animals 21:00 who doesn't? 21:00 habe erstmal in der Schule gelernt aber 21:01 exactly. who doesnt hate french 21:01 the french? 21:01 or do they also hate their own language... 21:01 I think it's mostly a prank language 21:02 es ist aber einfacher als deutsch zu lernen 21:02 deutsch ist zu kompliziert :( 21:02 too much case, too many gender 21:03 fuck off with all that shit please 21:03 ob 2 oder 3 Geschlechter, macht keinen grossen Unterschied 21:03 Deutsch hat wenigstens eine anständige Orthographie, die nicht teilweise auf 2000 Jahren alten Worten beruht 21:03 aber auf Deutsch hat alles ein Geschlecht 21:03 auf Französisch auch 21:04 genau Frenzösisch ist doch nicht viel besser an diesem Punkt 21:04 every language sucks 21:05 i dunno exactly how much more complicated german is to french 21:05 but mark twain said you could learn french in a few months and german in a few years 21:06 nein! schnell! 21:06 he says so in his book Die schreckliche deutsche Sprache 21:06 all you need to know 21:06 ha 21:06 that might be because although he loved German, he maybe loved French women more? 21:06 K2, also maybe 'HALT' 21:06 :) 21:07 'das geht nicht da-drin' 21:07 bhaak, maybe? 21:08 I don't actually know if he had any french love affairs :) but the best way of learning a language is having a native speaker of the target language as a love interest 21:09 i dunno if that always works 21:09 my fiance is danish 21:09 i still suck at danish 21:09 but danish is also hard 21:09 have you tried speaking it with a potato in your mouth? 21:09 yes, oh my god!, it helps so much 21:10 fiancé hates these kind of jokes or when i make fun of her language xD 21:10 :-D 21:10 one time she met a swede at a party and he was saying similar stuff much to her chagrin 21:11 little bit of scandy rivalry 21:11 but its also kind of fun once you know a little bit of danish you hear it everywhere 21:12 at least round these parts they're not uncommon 21:13 its also a game you can play at airports (spot? hear? the dane) 21:13 I think the Germans play that game with Netherlanders 21:14 im not sure anyone is playing it with danes except other danes or people who've lived in denmark 21:15 rng leaves me hanging for dozens of games then suddenly drops 5 rings of slow digestion on me before lvl10 21:15 not a bad ring... defnitely not the best ring 21:15 essential for vampire player race, though 21:15 ahhh 21:15 right 21:16 not really tried playing those 21:16 as long as you have a =SD it's super easy mode. 21:16 doesnt that make it boring and defeat the challenge of it? 21:16 well... it's UnNethack so that makes is a little harder. 21:17 right 21:17 * aoei has only ascended unNH once 21:17 I agree, it is harder 21:17 aoei: have you managed to learn the danish numeral system? 21:17 bhaak, yes 21:17 i have no problem with the numbers, backwards and illogical though they are 21:17 you are already a demigod 21:18 how the hell is 70 half of 80 21:18 explain this to me please 21:18 also, 23 is something like 'threey twenty' 21:18 I can't 21:19 its backwards 21:19 yes, that's also how it's in German 21:19 but then for triple digit numbers 21:19 they do this dance 21:19 423 becomes 4 hundred and 3 and twenty 21:19 oh right i forgot you germans are also BACKWARDS and WRONG and IDIOTIC 21:20 but back to the oddities of denmark in particular 21:20 they have a mythical number called 'fems' as well 21:20 but im not sure anybody has ever used this number or knows what it really is 21:20 except that '90' is half way to it 21:21 i am intrigued by your numerical knowledge and wish to subscribe to your newsletter 21:22 also if your beer is 'halv-fems kroner' it better be a really good beer 21:22 you might not know in what order to read the newsletter 21:22 or you are being ripped off 21:23 stay tuned for future episodes about how many words the danes have for 'pig' or 'pork' 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:54184 21:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:38 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:40 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of saxonysam, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2595 21:49 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Rog Vam Fem Cha), 8150 points, T:3296, killed by a gnome 21:57 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 308 points, T:980, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:59 3 in a row! 21:59 streak 22:00 \o/ 22:02 hahaah 22:03 pro tip, don't tip your BoH for the ?oSM while levitating 22:10 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1900 points, T:2370, killed by a rothe, while vomiting 22:17 bloody finally 22:17 * aoei found the vibrating square 22:46 boo 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 402999 points, T:27316, quit 22:49 !dumplog 22:50 :( 22:50 gnite o/ 22:50 gnight K2 23:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:10 sup stenno 23:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:14 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4174 points, T:3212, killed by a rothe 23:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 844 points, T:1814, killed by a hill orc 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Menche (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 857 points, T:2459, killed by a little dog 23:26 cave spider is not a particularly good pet 23:33 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5487 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6666