00:00 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:77809 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2507 points, T:4237, killed by a hill orc 00:14 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:18 I'm famous for famous last words 00:21 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Dra Dro Nbn Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a jaguar, on T:8037 00:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:24 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Dra Dro Mal Neu), 7067 points, T:8098, inhumed by a giant mummy 00:24 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Menche (Kni Hum Mal Law), 330 points, T:2233, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 00:47 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55 Did K2's forge change turn existing fountains to forges in anyone else's game, or do weird stuff to terrain and traps on the map you can't currently see? 00:55 yes 00:55 Ah there you are :) 00:56 only for those which were already made pre-forge patch 00:57 K2: I think there's still a bug though. All my lava did not turn to ice, just the lava I can't see. The game still knows it's lava, but it's like there's an off-by-1 when it's rendering unseen parts of the map. 00:58 yup 00:58 because there's a one-off in include/rm.h 00:58 .... yeah 01:07 <{Demo}1> uh oh 01:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:08 game isnt broken. just some already made features will look different.. rofl 01:08 yeah my bad 01:08 anything new generated will be fine 01:09 i tested this with an old save and it was fine... 01:09 didnt see the lava to ice bit 01:09 its always something 01:10 <{Demo}1> is my sokoban gonna be brokoban? 01:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:12 shouldnt 01:13 <{Demo}1> does striking still not work on iron bars? 01:13 not on undiggable levels, I believe 01:13 <{Demo}1> cause it said in the changelog it did but then that turned out to be alternative facts 01:13 <{Demo}1> ah 01:13 yes demo it works 01:13 probably user error ;) 01:14 <{Demo}1> a strange contingency 01:14 <{Demo}1> because acid should still work there I think? 01:14 its supposed to 01:14 thats vanilla behavior 01:14 <{Demo}1> so acid can cut undiggable bars but not striking cause they r too thick to strike? 01:15 but yeah, on undiggable levels the force bolt striking bit doesnt work on iron bars 01:15 <{Demo}1> cool 01:15 <{Demo}1> so I can break out the black dragon from the middle of the room 01:15 <{Demo}1> and 1v1 him hard 01:15 i had spent some time trying to work out some feedback so the player would know it wasnt working 01:15 but initial coding wasnt doing what i wanted 01:16 K2: It's not remembering any newly explored parts of the map at all. 01:16 same map or new map? 01:16 Same map still 01:16 right. those objects have already been created 01:16 new map, issue goes away 01:17 blaaaaaah 01:17 dammit 01:17 I did eventually find the stairs (luckily I can remember where they were), so I can try a new map. 01:17 i cant wait til hothraxxa spins up his current game 01:17 This seems worse than a mis-mapping of terrain features. Can you watch my game for a sec? 01:18 yup 01:18 see how the walls/floor/lava everything disappears when I walk away from it? 01:18 yes 01:18 gdamn 01:18 oh... i wonder 01:19 if there's a curses component i neglected 01:19 possible. 01:20 which file would i look in 01:20 cursinit? 01:20 curswins maybe? 01:20 I'll have a look. 01:21 translation: dont touch anything else 01:21 :) 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1151 points, T:1043, killed by a giant ant 01:24 in cursmain.c curses_print_glyph() is a wrapper around mapglyph(), which should be the only place. 01:24 but there's nothing there that would need changing 01:24 let me reproduce the issue in tty 01:25 the next level down looks normal so-far btw, except that it _also_ has lava. 01:25 i may need to tweak the rivers in mines code 01:25 lava seems to be appearing more often than 1% of the time 01:25 If it really is 1 in 100, that's fine. I am just extra lucky with it. 01:26 when I return to the previous level. It remembers the floor I've discovered since the change, but not the walls or lava. 01:27 or objects/ 01:27 i see it 01:28 looks the same in tty. 01:28 yep. same. 01:28 expected... include/rm.h 01:29 hah holy shit... ozzy was sleeping on the remote, when he got up he toggled the on button, stereo just came blaring on 01:29 ok. As long as you understand the behaviour based on what you changed :) 01:29 1:30am here 01:29 yeah. i am bad and must be punished ;) 01:30 Lol I bet that woke him up faster than expected :) 01:30 seriously, i made a point to test save break with this. it was fine so i was like 'ok lets go' 01:31 i need a no-shit guide, if you change this this or this file, Things™ and Stuff™ will happen 01:32 Who's it affecting? The problem is rolling it back will impact levels created after the change. 01:33 right... no turning back 01:33 bugpowder is at medusa level 01:33 i made him aware 01:33 not sure if he's gonna survive medusa, he took her on with zero reflection 01:33 wut 01:34 yeah 01:34 I’m going to run 01:34 :) 01:34 was watching you before you saved ;) 01:34 I have a amulet of flying should be able to escape 01:34 might be wise to dig down get reflection before coming back up. and some lizard/acid corpses 01:35 you discovered her slow stoning bite 01:35 Tangles: hothraxxa is late game. dunno if he's done invocation yet or not, if not he's close 01:35 acid corpses, good idea 01:35 acid blob corpse hah 01:35 already. drank 2 pot 01:36 pots 01:36 yeah 01:36 I need a real ranged weapon 01:36 fyi- medusa hates fire 01:36 heh. 01:37 annoyed that I blanked all those scrolls with a misstep 01:37 :/ 01:37 had to save before tilting 01:37 I got a lava level in the mines too btw 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Menche (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 62 points, T:109, killed by a bear trap 01:38 night night 01:38 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 01:46 K2: It looks like the remembered map of this level is unchanged since the update. It's not remembering newly discovered places, but it's also remembering walls that I have since dug out. 01:47 There might be somewhere int he code where the map gets updated that is not working properly, and that may be fixable. 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1875 points, T:2167, killed by a sewer rat, while disrobing 01:48 hmm 01:55 lava level in the mines? 01:56 not exactly 01:56 rivers generate in the mines, 1% chance its lava instead of water 01:56 oh really? wow. is this vanilla? 01:56 lol no 01:56 evilhack 01:56 (and grunthack, but just water) 01:56 omg is it on hf 01:57 yup 01:57 * winny playtests evilhack 01:57 read the changelog ;) 02:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:01 K2: It'll be something in recalc_mapseen() in dungeon.c 02:05 very interesting 02:05 btw was it intended for shopkeepers to not greet you? 02:06 if a shopkeeper is orc or gnome, the sound flag assigned to them doesnt allow them to talk 02:06 they nod at you instead when you buy things 02:06 and mind flayer 02:06 oic 02:07 Tangles: i dont see how changing anything in dungeon.c would help. everything past forge/fountain was incremented by one 02:07 include/rm.h 02:08 plus if we did change something for existing games, what will that do to new games? 02:08 there's only a handful of pre-forge patch games out there 02:09 No I'm not talking about changing anyting, just fixing why recalc_mapseen does not work. 02:09 oh 02:09 so you're saying that block of vanilla code just doesnt work period 02:16 No it works in normal situations, I'm just wondering if there's a way to fix it to still work even if someone rearranges the dungeon features mid-game. 02:17 ah 02:19 ooo found a bug 02:19 maybe? 02:22 hi K2! in case you were planning to put slex on hdf, please hold off for now; there's a bug in monst.c that I have to fix first :) 02:28 winny: there's a handful of bugs still, we're aware of (hopefully) the biggest ones, but please let me know if you come across any 02:28 [hdf-us] [evil] winny (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 350 points, T:1370, zombified by a gnome zombie, while helpless 02:28 ^ not a bug 02:29 K2: so got TermIll from hobbit zombie, prayed to restore, then got bit again, it said i feel deathly sick, but didn't set TermIll status indicator 02:29 (didn't say TermIll the second time, only the message when getting bit) 02:29 tty or curses 02:29 the default i didn't copy over any config 02:30 ok 02:31 i'll double check the ttyrec just to be sure, cuz who knows , could have been user errror lol 02:31 i think demo mentioned it too 02:33 oh no ttyplay gives me garbage 02:34 i just reproduced it 02:34 nice 02:34 nm this then :) 02:34 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Hum Fem Law), 107 points, T:484, zombified by a kobold zombie 02:40 i think i see it 02:40 testing 02:43 ok so with statuslines: 3 no issue 02:44 when i switched back to statuslines: 2 (normal) and became termill again, no notification 02:44 i switch it back to 3, there it is 02:44 whywhywhy lol 02:44 anyways i think i see it 02:50 shit no thats not it 02:51 hmm ok... if i refresh the screen without changing statusline setting, it comes back 02:52 in other words, select something that draws full menu 02:57 for all i know so far , this could be vanilla issue 02:57 they released recent changes to the bottom line (src/botl.c) may be related, evilhack is fairly caught up with latest 3.6.2 02:59 yeah if i do something that redraws the entire terminal space (like viewing inventory) the missing statusline pops right back 02:59 ok i gotta sleep, 3am here 02:59 nite 03:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:08 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:35 cheers 03:53 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 04:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:30 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 04:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:28154 05:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:18 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 06:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:38 <@Winsalot> !tell LarienTelrunya: you ever watched JoJo anime? Im normally not anime person, but started wathcing it because of memes and damn it's good. It also reminds me of slex because it's just as colorful ❤ 06:38 No worries, @Winsalot, I've got this! 06:39 @Winsalot (in the hopes that the discord bridge works this time): nah I didn't watch it 06:39 LarienTelrunya: Message from @Winsalot at 2019-04-22 06:38 EDT: you ever watched JoJo anime? Im normally not anime person, but started wathcing it because of memes and damn it's good. It also reminds me of slex because it's just as colorful ❤ 06:39 <@Winsalot> it's bassicaly anime slex 😃 06:40 <@Winsalot> doesn't make sense and has all the psychedelic colors 06:40 fleecy colors ♥ 06:40 <@Winsalot> also has vampires, phasing monsters, and way too many life drain attacks 😃 06:40 <@Winsalot> just like slex 06:41 really? maybe they stole everything from slex :D 06:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:32479 06:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32489 06:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master lich), on T:32547 06:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Noah (Rog Hob Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:41 08:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Noah (Rog Hob Fem Neu) murdered Taco, her faithful kitten, on T:510 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Noah (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 146 points, T:519, killed by a boulder 08:39 !tell K2 alright I fixed the bug with slex's monst.c and it should now really be ready for the server :) 08:39 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 08:57 well. i'm nervous about restarting my game now, since i have lvls 1-54 already. i assume the only level left is the vs level 08:58 anyway i'll just leave this here: https://youtu.be/3Zw58knC9zI 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 8270 points, T:10612, poisoned by an orcish arrow, while sleeping 09:18 hm. i had two piles of rocks in a row. cast stf, nearest pile is still rocks but the other one is meatballs 09:28 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 09:30 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:35 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:38 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 09:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 09:40 <{Demo}1> does having a shiny head grant reflection irl and will it protect u from surprise Medusa encounters? 09:41 <{Demo}1> would this make a good false rumor? 09:44 If I take off amulet of flying while polyed into J, I “float gently to the floor” but im still flying 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Bar Cen Fem Neu) averted death, on T:12689 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Bugpowder (Bar Cen Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:12689 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Noah (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:48608 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 571 points, T:1114, killed by a dwarf 09:57 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 09:58 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 10:00 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Noah (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:48940 10:02 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Noah (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:49008 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Noah (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:49082 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Noah (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4195986 points, T:49118, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Noah/nh361/dumplog/1552583692.nh361.txt 10:12 grats 10:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:38, on T:37176 10:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:37179 10:22 congrats Noah 10:22 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-04-22 08:39 EDT: alright I fixed the bug with slex's monst.c and it should now really be ready for the server :) 10:22 they arent here 10:22 \o/ 10:22 ok LarienTelrunya 10:22 <{Demo}1> I wouldn't be here either if I had just ascended 10:22 <{Demo}1> I'd take a break 10:22 <{Demo}1> and cry for hours cause I miss my char 10:23 <{Demo}1> they grow up so fast 10:23 heh 10:23 here's hoping it doesn't result in the game spawning a blessed cursed partly greased very eaten glorkum 0 -58 NaN that causes a dump segfault kernel stack collapse :P 10:25 <{Demo}1> hate when that happens 10:26 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 10:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:32 K2: might be in here under another nice 10:32 nick 10:33 maybe 10:33 noah you here? 10:33 congrats! 10:33 oh i think they use discord 10:33 i cant remember 10:33 i am willing to take that ris 10:33 k 10:34 if they use discord, we probably need to write @Noah congratulations! 10:34 but maybe the bridge is down again 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hekik (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:20658 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57153 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:57164 10:36 Wow, I'm building up quite the collection. Fire Brand, Cleaver, and now Giantslayer 10:37 <{Demo}1> open an artifact emporium 10:37 And have it robbed by a kitten 10:38 Odin: "Use my gift wisely!" Me: "I wonder if I can charge admission..." 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:39651 10:38 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:57178 10:39 <{Demo}1> first invocation? 10:40 <{Demo}1> for evil? 10:40 jilles already ascended 10:40 <{Demo}1> yeah and I Astral splatted 10:40 i think he had to do the invocation 10:40 <{Demo}1> oh 10:40 he did 10:40 <{Demo}1> damn 10:40 anyway i'm bypassing demo. should be interesting 10:41 <{Demo}1> I did that 10:41 <{Demo}1> it worked out fine 10:41 well it's luck of the draw when i quaff the cursed gl to go up to his level 10:42 assuming the priests don't get me 10:45 <{Demo}1> they aren't so bad 10:45 <{Demo}1> I had issues there due to a broken fell beast 10:45 <{Demo}1> that didn't exist but could still attack me 10:46 <{Demo}1> in the doorway to the priest chamber of the sanctum 10:46 <{Demo}1> and I was getting summon swarmed from the opposite side 10:46 i almost want to disable monsters riding steeds until its fixed 10:46 <{Demo}1> it was really bad 10:48 <{Demo}1> why doesn't war have a horse? 10:48 they do 10:48 Probably because it was killed by a Minetown shopkeeper. 10:48 if your alignment is shit you dont get your steed 10:53 <{Demo}1> wait what 10:54 <{Demo}1> I was piously aligned and I didn't get no steed 10:55 hmm 10:55 that's the second pm who read teleportation and vanished 10:56 i should not of let that happen 10:58 so here's the dilemma. is this really a no-teleport level? 10:58 how many turns do i get? 10:59 looks like 3 10:59 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 t-shirt named Totally Awesome!", on T:10805 11:01 <{Demo}1> oh hmm maybe I did get a guardian steed 11:02 <{Demo}1> I think it just instadied cause it was weak and I didn't know it was a steed and thought it was an angel? 11:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:46, on T:37458 11:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:08 k2: placing defunct monster onto map? 11:08 yes 11:08 same type of issue from before with zombies and monsters riding other monsters 11:08 <{Demo}1> k2 extern.h has gain_guardian_steed commented as in minion.c but it isn't 11:09 <{Demo}1> that means a dead monster didn't get cleaned up 11:09 <{Demo}1> or rather a monster with 0 hp or less 11:09 the steed has always shown up when i play test 11:09 hmm 11:10 demo: if you're talking about your astral splat, then yes you did get a steed 11:10 <{Demo}1> yeah I think it did and I missed it and assumed it was an angel 11:10 <{Demo}1> give the steed mr 11:10 <{Demo}1> or it just gets shredded by angels 11:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:37501 11:11 so does it matter what order things are listed in extern.h? 11:11 <{Demo}1> no 11:11 <{Demo}1> it works fine 11:11 or is it just for good housekeeping 11:11 <{Demo}1> yeah bad housekeeping 11:11 trivial to move it under right comment section 11:11 good catch 11:12 <{Demo}1> cause I was looking for it in minion.c and couldn't find it 11:12 <{Demo}1> and got confused 11:12 <{Demo}1> but I had a unihorn so I'm fine 11:12 yeah i had to move all of that out of minion.c now that i remember 11:12 hah 11:24 K2, in https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f031d3c6a7c2049b123e28bae6ab83e2892d132c#diff-8792895241cf9edd8b237d6d1f6b667aR3680, 11:24 if (!BSTRCMPI(bp, p - 7, "forge")) { seems wrong 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of enchant weapon", on T:16258 11:24 related to wishing for a forge in wizard mode 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:57666 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:57673 11:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:47, on T:37677 11:42 jilies: would explain why i cant wish for one 11:42 i cant see the problem though 11:42 what seems wrong about it? 11:42 (was a direct copy from splicehack, just changed 'furnance' to 'forge' 11:42 ) 11:42 The 7 should be changed to 5. 11:43 ... 11:43 hah 11:43 number of word characters? 11:44 i had no idea what that meant... looking at this at 2am, it didnt click 11:44 spent a few hours trying to figure out why i couldnt wish for one but it otherwise worked 11:44 ffs 11:45 which means its wrong in splicehack too... 11:46 at that point, p points to the end of the string 11:46 i see 11:46 i think you could wish for daforge ;) 11:47 * K2 renames 'forge' to 'daforge' 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh4] moxana (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 29127 points, T:1761, killed by a gnome king 11:47 * K2 renames 'daforge' to 'Geordi La Forge' 11:49 i'll fix and push it after hothraxxa's game is over 11:49 thank you folks 11:49 well that was a bad idea 11:49 tried to walk out of the sanctum 11:50 met my first beholder 11:51 i missed it 11:51 how'd that go? :P 11:52 started turning to stone, et some of larry (i have four partly eaten lizards now) and took out my cursed gl potions 11:52 i'm on the level above demo now 11:52 nice 11:52 yeah i changed beholders instastone gaze to slow stone 11:53 wand of speed doesn't fix my slowness :( 11:53 try again 11:53 wand of speed monster doesnt always work by design 11:53 as in, vanilla design 11:53 doesn't matter it timed out 11:56 * winny snorts wand of speed monster 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:4366 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:41868 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41869 12:18 K2: made another small adjustment to slex; do you already know when you'll have time to put it up? ;) 12:19 -!- wvc_ has joined #hardfought 12:20 tonight my time 12:20 ah, well chances are I'll be sleeping then 12:21 hopefully everything will go well, but if not, I'll see it in the backscroll tomorrow :) 12:21 ok :) 12:21 also thanks for being such a great pet in my current slex run :D 12:21 sleep is a crutch 12:21 you dont need it 12:22 hah 12:22 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:23 hmm. evilhack doesn't have a pinobot command yet, right? 12:23 @e?magical eye 12:23 correct 12:26 @g?magical eye 12:26 No such monster. 12:26 @u?magical eye 12:26 No such monster. 12:26 uhh what's the one for spork again 12:26 @sp?magical eye 12:26 @s?magical eye 12:26 magical eye (e) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 6 | Res: fire cold shock | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Attacks: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d6 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze stun, 4d6 gaze fire, 4d6 gaze cold, 2d4 bite physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: flies, breathless, nopoly, infravisible 12:26 that thing has too many damn gazes :P 12:28 Change them all to psychic-range attacks. 12:29 who maintains pinobot? 12:29 i forget 12:29 uhh, I think Adeon? 12:30 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 12:32 I deny everything 12:33 Adeon: *bundlebundlebundle!* slex 2.50 is out now; you asked a while ago when would be a good time to update the monster list for pinobot and that time is now :D 12:33 * NCommander unbundles LarienTelrunya 12:33 as in, that version is feature frozen now, and will not have any new monsters, flags etc. added to it for a good long while 12:34 hi NCommander! slex 2.50 is out, but so far it's playable only on the esm server; chances are it'll come to hdf soon too! 12:34 I'm in enough pain that I don't want to stab myself with sexy pumps while gaming as well :) 12:35 aww! but this new slex version is actually quite a bit easier than earlier versions, or at least that was my intention 12:35 Wait ... easier? 12:35 "good long while" means, what, two weeks, until the next batch of new monsters is added? 12:35 NCommander: yeah, though whether it's really the case remains to be seen 12:35 * NCommander wonders what happened to Amy and who is impersonating LarienTelrunya 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 shield of reflection", on T:42237 12:35 jonadab: oh I will probably work on a savebreak branch if I get bored, but the junethack version is officially feature frozen 12:36 NCommander: "easier" probably means more blinking colors. 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:42240 12:36 Or more shoes. 12:36 Maybe it's easier because now the player is always a shoe. 12:36 jonadab, we're soon going to need to put an epilepsy disclaimer whenever someone loads up SLEX for liability sake. 12:37 jonadab: once the new slex version is on hdf, I'll say "play slex 2.50 as the shoe race! *bundlebundlebundle*" to you :D 12:37 I once knew what bundles were, but I seem to forgot. ndbqb suggests that's a good thing 12:38 NCommander: it means she wants something from you. 12:38 I'm not crazy enough to try building SLEX on 16-bit operating systems ... again ... 12:38 here's a girl with two bundles: https://abload.de/img/fallout3ng2018-10-0910wisu.png ♥ 12:39 ... I can't decide if I want to click that link 12:39 it's a screenshot from Fallout 3 ;) 12:40 LarienTelrunya, there are so many things that girl has two of, it's hard to isolate what the bundle is :P 12:40 the hair bunches hanging down to the left and right of her head, of course! 12:40 so many inappropriate things i could say... 12:40 sooooo many 12:40 K2, LarienTelrunya is active in chat, isn't that par the course? 12:41 heh 12:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:42 The few times I've played SLEX, I had to keep the source code open in VSCode so I could figure out what the hell anything actually was 12:42 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:42 It's always a bad sign when VSCode starts lagging ... and it lags with SLEX :) 12:44 NCommander: What about 8-bit OSes? 12:45 NCommander: slex on zedex spectrum, go 12:45 jonadab, nethack gets unhappy when int can only be a range of -127 to 127 12:46 No problem, just do #define int long int 12:46 I'm fairly sure x86_16 real mode is the only >32-bit architecture nethack has actually been ported to 12:47 What could go wrong? 12:47 jonadab, 20+ instructions to do a load/store :), address space is one heck of a limitation 12:47 Wasn't SPARC 64-bit? 12:47 Less-than 32-bit 12:47 Ah. 12:47 and SPARC is 32/64-bit 12:48 shit when will i ever learn to take off my levitation ring before dropping potions 12:48 <{Demo}1> doesn't vscode lag inherently? 12:48 and segmented mode still has 1 MiB addressable in total which was fine for older nethacks. 12:48 I'm pretty sure _older_ versions of NetHack ran on other <32-bit systems. But in practice those ports may be fully dead now. 12:48 <{Demo}1> because electron wants more ram than it deserves 12:48 {Demo}1, not if you have 32G of RAM. Most of the lag is paging. 12:49 Wait, how many bits is Amiga? That port hasn't been dead long. 12:49 jonadab, I need to look at the ports list, but classic Mac OS was 32-bit ... ish 12:49 32-bit 12:49 m68k is inhertiedly 32-bit, but Apple used to tagged pointers so Mac OS was 24-bit de facto until System 7. 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:36088 12:51 jonadab, I've been tempted to try to point a wand of undead turning at some of the ports. 12:52 NCommander: It's probably only worth attempting ports to systems that have enough of a hobbyist community to have a modern C compiler running on the platform. 12:52 jonadab, so OS/2, Amiga, BeOS ... 12:53 If I really wanted to make LarienTelrunya happy, I'd upgrade the SLEX port for Android so she can abuse herself on her phone :) 12:53 heh, my phone doesn't run apps 12:54 LarienTelrunya, ... what phone are you running? 12:54 a dumbphone :P 12:54 Most dumbphones support J2ME or BREW 12:55 LarienTelrunya, you should come join us in the smartphone future, we have awesome ringtones :) 12:55 can't find a good screenshot but it looks a little like this one: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41KS9khdbyL._SX355_.jpg 12:55 ... wow 12:55 now I challenge you to port slex to that :P 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of magical breathing", on T:42244 12:56 LarienTelrunya, what scares me is I could probably do it by reverse engineering the OS and making SLEX run as a bare metal application. 12:56 haha :D 12:56 Course then I'd need to make the phone parts work in game. SMSes could be scrolls of mail. 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 hawaiian shirt", on T:42246 12:57 "A phone call suddenly jumps into view." "J - an unanswered phonecall". "Suddenly, the phone call disappears out of sight!" 12:57 Maybe phone calls should auto-ID when picked up so at least you dont have to burn scrolls of identification to know who's calling. 12:57 NCommander: Hmm, a look through the ports lists for some historical versions suggests you may be right: x86 may be the only <32-bit platform it ever ran on. I mean, that's Xenix and Linux and BSD as well as DOS, but still. 12:58 Xenix was 32-bit except for the 8086 port. 12:58 This is weird to me, I'm used to thinking of stuff from that era as being ported to 30+ 8-bit micro platforms. 12:58 Zork certainly was. 12:58 jonadab, nethack was developed on *nix platforms. It's a lot harder to take 32-bit code and go down vs. the other way around. 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of enchant armor", on T:42357 12:59 Ah. 12:59 Well, also, NetHack has to be able to do dynamic memory allocation. 12:59 jonadab, Zork was also a VM. You just needed a z-machine; the story files were platform independent 12:59 Some of the cartridge-based systems wouldn't have allowed that. 12:59 NCommander: Yeah, I know. 12:59 But still. 12:59 malloc() can be implemented on anything, it just might not be useful :) 12:59 I'm just... used to thinking of games from that era as running on TRS-80 and Apple II and so on. 13:00 NCommander: on the z-machine, malloc isn't useful. 13:00 Most of those used bank switching TBH. 13:00 One of the core design principles is that if the game will start, it can run to completion. 13:00 To go beyond 64 kilobytes. 13:00 It's pretty conceptually similar to x86 segmenting 13:01 but most of the z-machines were coded in raw assembly; it's a LOT easier to do bank switching in assembly than in C 13:02 x86_16 was the only real platform C was ever semi-popular with, and even then, the language and the CRT needed a lot of hacks to deal with it 13:02 near/far/fat pointers 13:03 (granted, fat pointers are far pointers, but you had to do a lot of hoops to make pointer arthritic work) 13:04 Segmenting also meant the entire program was in the address space, you just had to change the base addresses, bank switching meant code was actually leaving memory and being replaced, and loaded at the same offset 13:04 am i a disrespectful traitor when i just play vanilla instead of ndnh or eh 13:04 (granted, you could do bank switching in real mode, that's how EMS worked, a new segment of RAM was banked into the EMS area; on the XT it was does with hardware, on the AT and the 80386 it was done with smoke and magic with the MMU) 13:05 ... I really feel old cause I remember this shit ._.; 13:05 punished 13:05 stenno, instant karma 13:06 stenno, remember to genocide h on your next run. 13:07 jonadab, non-flat address space really makes C cry, hence the lack of NetHack ports to things with less than 32-bit address space. 13:09 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 96578 points, T:44408, killed by a minotaur 13:09 Unrelated, but AIX can run under QEMU now 13:09 neat 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed historic holy diluted magic harp named prop. of loreena mckennitt", on T:59100 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed historic burning greased magic marker named prop. of donald trump", on T:59101 13:12 hothraxxa, be careful with that marker, it might refuse to write a scroll of gold detection 13:16 only thing you can write with it is 'NO COLLUSION!!' 13:17 or 'covfefe' 13:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:21 <{Demo}1> or rocket man is something something something 13:21 <{Demo}1> idk the rocket boy tweet was funny 13:21 <{Demo}1> whatever it was 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:7036 13:30 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:59434 13:34 * NCommander blehs 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:59505 13:37 go hothraxxa go! 13:40 * NCommander tunes in to watch 13:41 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4087 points, T:2259, killed by a human zombie 13:41 <{Demo}1> !lotg hothraxxa 13:41 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, hothraxxa! 13:43 why does the game say he's on Fire when that water? 13:44 bug 13:48 ... easiest portal ever :P 13:54 so much for the red horse 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:19961 13:54 yup known bug (fire instead of water) 13:54 i randomized the planes like in grunthack 13:55 then DT put out a code change that actually labels each plane 13:55 need to address that 13:55 <--- me 13:56 <[Demo]> damn nice purple rain 13:56 purple rain! ... purple rain.... (singing) 13:56 I've never done the purple worms on Astral before 13:56 it is glorious 13:57 first time i saw it was a Grasshopper asc 13:57 I've made it Astral four times, and splatted twice 13:57 er, five times 13:57 Once in n343, 362-dev, and FIQ 13:57 <[Demo]> man hothraxxas screen is so big i had to full screen and zoom out 13:57 Splatted in NH4 and ... 360? 13:58 i've splatted astral prob 3-4 times in sporkhack 13:59 Nothing more depressing than an astral splat 13:59 yup 13:59 I know LarienTelrunya splatted in Astral in SLASH'EM ... I think 13:59 *slex 13:59 yeah, one tile from the high altar 13:59 I used to do the "break a wand of teleport" to scatter them, but now I just magic whistle them around me and they act as a buffer of chewy purple monsters 14:00 fight the archangel hothraxxa 14:00 LarienTelrunya, ouch, what was the cause of death 14:00 <[Demo]> ive only splatted in astral once and it was k2 dumb variant named meanhack 14:00 NCommander: Famine 14:00 Ow 14:00 (yeah, dying to a vanilla monster in slex :P) 14:01 [Demo] you went in way underprepared 14:01 even for other variants 14:01 he was covetous and immune to death rays, which can happen sometimes in slex but is generally not common 14:01 all my astral splats have been due to not knowing I was terminally ill because I use curses or it was prior to regular tty having 3 status lines. 14:01 I don't remember what killed my Wizard in NH4. In my Samuari ascension, I had to go to all three altars, but I was overprepared, I had already destroyed Demongorgon after getting bogged down in VotD 14:02 my one astral splat in vanilla was to Pestilence because I completely underestimated him 14:02 that guy sux 14:02 FIQHack astral is evil 14:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:37770 14:02 Fraking create monster 14:02 <[Demo]> yes i did thats true 14:02 I think FIQ nerfed that 14:02 <[Demo]> i inteded to die before i got there 14:02 <@kriptospicebox> anyone else having a UI problem in 362 where "lev" status isn't showing up? 14:02 <[Demo]> somehow i didnt 14:02 i think FIQ toned that down 14:02 yeah 14:03 @kriptospicebox yes 14:03 <@kriptospicebox> aight, so i'm not cray 14:03 been meaning to log a bug report 14:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:37776 14:03 if you cause a full refresh of your terminal it pops back up 14:03 <@kriptospicebox> where do we log? didn't see any links on actual nethack.org 14:03 check inv, etc 14:03 <@kriptospicebox> yeah i saved/quit and came back and saw it 14:04 oh geez hothraxxa 14:04 the grand tour 14:04 <{Demo}1> wow 14:04 Oooh, grand tours suck 14:05 he's doing alright so far though 14:05 Still tempted to make my own variant, seems like everyone in here already has one though :P 14:06 will NCommanderHack add the firefighter role from slex? ♥ 14:06 Firefighter wasn't original to SLEX, was it? 14:06 And I ight 14:06 *might 14:06 nah, but the original firefighter role was from a time when there were no quests and maybe also no skills yet 14:07 i.e. back when elf was still a role 14:07 Mostly if I make a variant, it would be to reduce player aggrovation. Sokoban would get replaced with a level I'd like to call the Minotaur's Maze. and probably add additional branches 14:07 hahaha slex plans to add a minotaur's maze branch eventually, and it will be designed to make the player's head explode :P 14:07 i have two separate optional branch quests planned for evilhack 14:08 but that will wait until current bugs are fixed 14:08 I think my design document for that branch says: 20+ levels of mazes, can't dig through the floor, can't levelport, can't intra-level teleport, and permanent map amnesia. 14:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 103420 points, T:24750, choked on a stone giant corpse 14:08 LarienTelrunya, ow 14:08 If you'd be really evil, you'd regenerate the mazes 14:09 so you can't use screencapture 14:09 naaah, it should still be possible in theory :D 14:09 ... why am I giving her ideas ... 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:21462 14:09 not sure whether I also want to make the walls undiggable for that branch, probably not 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21465 14:10 LarienTelrunya, regenerating the mazes going up/down would still make it possible 14:10 rubber chicken time? 14:10 NCommander: yeah but I actually have no idea how to regenerate dungeon levels, because it's never done in vanilla 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed partly eaten historic diluted unlit figurine of a woodchuck named carl", on T:59696 14:10 hahah 14:10 rofl 14:10 #wizmakemap 14:11 LarienTelrunya, ... I could write a patch for you. 14:11 * NCommander must be crazy >.>; 14:11 paxed: that's 3.6-exclusive, right? 14:11 congrats hothraxxa! 14:11 LarienTelrunya: yes 14:11 wait, hothraxxa ascended impossiblehack? 14:11 Go Team hothraxxa 14:11 that's asc #2 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 2837225 points, T:59698, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/evilhack/dumplog/1555264127.evil.txt 14:11 thanks all 14:12 LarienTelrunya, why is it impossiblehack? 14:12 \o/ 14:12 * hothraxxa checks off another first gnome healer ascension 14:12 NCommander: uhh, because it's a mix of two variants that are already hard enough by themselves? :D 14:12 LarienTelrunya, says the author of SLEX 14:12 k2: congrats on a really tough variant 14:12 hothraxxa: congratulations! now please ascend slex in evilvariant mode next, considering you're apparently the master of playing the evil variant :) 14:13 nah, i'm not the master 14:16 * NCommander has a disturbing moment of debating to play SLEX but it passes 14:16 NCommander: hold off until 2.50 is on the server, please :) 14:16 thank you hothraxxa 14:17 I have an alt account for SLEX just in case I play so I don't tank my !asc 14:18 well either way I'd recommend waiting because the new version is a major update that fixes sooooo much stuff 14:18 actually... I have an idea 14:19 is it a fleecy idea? 14:19 K2: kind of ;) 14:19 NCommander: instead of constantly trying to swoon over 2.50, I'll present you the changelog! https://raw.githubusercontent.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/master/history2.txt ♥ 14:19 such a fleecy changelog! :D 14:19 * NCommander reads a scroll of teleportation to escape. 14:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:43, on T:37926 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of identify", on T:43964 14:22 * NCommander should probably call his variant nhack :) 14:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:40, on T:37981 14:25 <{Demo}1> belated congrats 14:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] Shazam (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 154 points, T:360, killed by a system shock 14:29 LarienTelrunya, so what is the big change for 2.5? 14:29 hothraxxa 14:29 how many times did you see the WoY during the asc run? 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:23318 14:29 or in the planes? 14:29 i dont see any livelogs for killing the wiz 14:30 NCommander: uhh there's so many changes :D 15 new roles, several thousand new monsters, couple mechanical changes to make the game less difficult including loosening some clocks that make the game harder over time... 14:30 dumplog shows you killed him twice 14:31 LarienTelrunya, I forgot SLEX is a timed mission. I should roll wizard until I start with +oI, and hope nothing evil gets blacklisted 14:31 spellbook of invisibility? 14:33 Identify, unless you removed it 14:33 heh, I'm not sure how helpful a spellbook of identify would be 14:33 that said, it does still exist 14:36 LarienTelrunya, to help prevent putting on a cloak of inventoryless 14:36 :P 14:37 haha I actually nerfed the inventorylessness effect because it was too crippling! 14:38 Wait, Amy nerfed something? 14:38 ITS THE END OF DAYS 14:38 in fact I nerfed several interface screw traps for being too hard to deal with 14:38 yes, Ragnarok is coming near :D 14:38 * NCommander sighs 14:38 This report is stealing my soul 14:39 oh, in case you're worried that slex is now too easy, play evilvariant mode and it'll go back to being unfairly difficult :P 14:39 Is that a boss monster in slex? :) 14:40 Ragnarok is the apocalypse in north mythology; in slex it's an event that can be triggered by certain monster attacks, among other things 14:40 if it happens, random floor and wall tiles become lava and a lot of out-of-depth dragons, giants and devils (all hostile, of course) are spawned everywhere 14:40 NCommander: the Amiga port suffers from the problem that the C compilers back then died out. m68k Amiga doesn't have an easily usable current gcc implementation. also, current AmigaOS version are no longer m68k based but powerpc. for that, you could probably easily compile a working version but IMHO that's a boring target. then you could equally well just compile for x86 AROS. 14:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:41 having grown up on an Amiga, I'd still say it would be easier to just let that port die. 14:41 bhaak, I thought GCC was available for m68k Amiga 14:41 then again, most of m68k doesn't get love. 14:41 not out of the box. they removed the m68k a few versions back. 14:42 Ouch 14:42 there's a github repository that tries to patch it back in for current versions but I don't know how well that works 14:42 Well, binutils, GCC still supports m68k, but you need to readd hulk support 14:42 And binutils/GCC's source code makes NH look like fucking gold. 14:43 hehe 14:44 bhaak, we were always an IBM PC house when I was growing up; I used to place PC-Rogue on a monochrome display 14:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 920 points, T:1989, killed by a giant ant 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:37322 14:53 hello hardfought gang 14:57 <{Demo}1> howdy 14:58 heya jonathanhanes 14:59 that feeling when you go around exploring an ENTIRE dungeon level looking for the upstair... when all you'd have had to do was to dig out ONE tile - http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1555959463505.png 14:59 <{Demo}1> owned 14:59 <{Demo}1> by big slex 15:02 lots of new variants 15:02 <{Demo}1> play notdnethack 15:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] MayoiSnail (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 912 points, T:862, killed by a gnome lord 15:15 * stenno seconds ndnh 15:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Bin Bat Mal Non), 1240 points, T:1950, killed by a dwarf 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:25111 15:41 <{Demo}1> hmm yeah vision is broken 15:41 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1057 points, T:1177, killed by a giant ant 15:42 <{Demo}1> ugh yikes fountains r red 15:42 <{Demo}1> err orange 15:43 <{Demo}1> what i cant explore new corridors? 15:45 <{Demo}1> k2 you destroyed my altar! 15:45 <{Demo}1> :( 15:46 aww 15:46 how? 15:46 <{Demo}1> your forge bullshit 15:46 <{Demo}1> altars are now graves 15:47 <{Demo}1> whyd u break saves and then not revert? 15:49 it didnt 'break' saves... some dungeon objects just look like something else. its only on already discovered maps 15:49 if i had known that was gonna happen, i would have bumped up the patchlevel 15:50 <{Demo}1> yeah it did 15:50 <{Demo}1> my save was fine, i had a fine altar 15:50 <{Demo}1> now its broken 15:50 your saved game still loads 15:50 <{Demo}1> and now i have a grave 15:50 it didnt break saves 15:50 <{Demo}1> the save itself is broken 15:50 <{Demo}1> fine, damaged 15:51 sorry bout that 15:51 are you on astal? 15:52 he just finished soko 15:52 aw 15:52 that would've been hilarious 15:52 <{Demo}1> my coalgined temple is ruined 15:52 <{Demo}1> and yes that would have been 15:54 i take this seriously {Demo}1, I apologize 15:54 yet 15:54 i cant help it... 15:54 u mad bro? 15:54 :D 15:55 <{Demo}1> ive made it past the first phase 15:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:00 <{Demo}1> damn these ninjas are shredding each other 16:01 oh they're shooting each other in the back with shurikens? 16:01 <{Demo}1> yeah also have you tested any of the mplayer kitting changes with samurai quest? 16:01 <{Demo}1> are the mplayers on that quest gonna get turbod weird cause of it? 16:02 <{Demo}1> actually i think they are supposed to 16:02 <{Demo}1> at least thats how it is in grunt 16:02 basically the same behavior from grunthack and some sporkhack thrown in 16:02 that will get refined over time 16:07 <{Demo}1> do monsters have more hp in evil? 16:07 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 63 points, T:189, mowed down by a small mimic 16:07 <{Demo}1> lurker above had nearly 100.... that seems high 16:10 <{Demo}1> uh oh 16:12 {Demo}1 yes 16:13 the formula for determining monster HP is a modified version of what sporkhack uses 16:13 size plays a factor 16:16 time to plytest evilhack some more 16:16 <{Demo}1> :( 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Sam Hum Fem Law), 94399 points, T:28083, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 16:17 <{Demo}1> !lastgame Demo 16:17 {Demo}1: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/evilhack/dumplog/1555882419.evil.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/dnethack/dumplog/1533070765.dnh.txt 16:17 <{Demo}1> " You were 97% poison resistant." 16:18 <{Demo}1> " The poison was deadly..." 16:18 hrm 16:19 * NCommander feels tired and miserable :( 16:19 <{Demo}1> why am i doing this 16:19 you like helping 16:19 Does evilhack have the thing where you level up resistances? 16:19 yes 16:21 Interesting 16:21 * NCommander might try it although I barely can see straight at the moment :( 16:21 {Demo}1 that obviously shouldnt have happened. i'll have a look 16:21 sleep time NCommander? 16:21 <{Demo}1> why wont i just giveu 16:23 K2, I haven't been awake that long 16:23 I just feel really crummy 16:23 oh 16:23 :/ 16:23 <{Demo}1> theres a giant spider just chilling on dlvl1 16:23 <{Demo}1> not cool 16:24 <{Demo}1> oh a whole gang of em? 16:24 2-4 16:24 <{Demo}1> 3 of them it seems 16:24 yeah... i wish i could hold that random vault off until dlvl 4 or so 16:24 <{Demo}1> got realllllly lucky 16:25 unnethack has that capability (custom level compiler) 16:25 <{Demo}1> first scroll i found was scare monster 16:25 <{Demo}1> so i lived 16:25 i had to pull a few of the more interesting random vaults because i cant specific a level depth 16:25 *specify 16:25 kept the spiders 16:26 dropped it from 3-9 to 2-4 16:26 but yeah they stayed 16:26 because evil 16:26 current test with spiked pit, at 100% poison res, get 'The poison doesn't seem to affect you.' 16:26 so there's that 16:26 now lets try 90%+ 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Hekik (Val Dwa Fem Law), 397 points, T:1287, zombified by an orc zombie 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 461 points, T:382, zombified by a kobold zombie, while praying 16:27 i should create a 'death by zombie' tracker 16:27 see how long it takes some players to alter tactics 16:27 <{Demo}1> and realize it is 50% of deaths? 16:27 or more 16:28 <{Demo}1> zombiehack 16:28 heh 16:28 the 'zombie apocalyse' is why i decided to add the forges 16:29 What can you do about the sickness in the early game besides praying? Or are you just supposed to keep your distance from zeds? 16:29 <{Demo}1> u r just supposed to die 16:29 range attack them if you can 16:29 <{Demo}1> its rng based whether u live 16:30 <{Demo}1> just hope for good rng to make it through early game 16:30 dont listen to demo 16:30 having a helmet helps as their bite attack is the most dangerous 16:30 K2, so if I were to play evilhack, any tips? 16:30 The stethoscope said I was "dying from." Bug? 16:31 read the changelog so you know what you're getting into 16:31 What's up with people playing on these truckhuge terminals?? 16:31 thanks, I will for next time haha 16:31 Hekik yeah it should have said 'turning into a zombie' 16:31 !lastgame 16:31 Hekik: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/evilhack/dumplog/1555964599.evil.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/C/CardGirlGamer/splicehack/dumplog/1555945788.splice.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grasshopper/evilhack/dumplog/1555879967.evil.txt 16:32 ndhethack does not seem TOO much different from regular dnethack looking at the changelog 16:32 !lastgame Hekik 16:32 Hekik: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/Hekik/evilhack/dumplog/1555963469.evil.txt 16:32 !lastgame jonathanhanes 16:32 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/nh361/dumplog/1540951750.nh361.txt 16:32 <{Demo}1> zombies r dumb, punch em in the lungs 16:32 "Status of Hekik (devoutly lawful): Level 3 HP 29(38) AC 6, dying from." 16:33 adding to list 16:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] Shazam (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 55 points, T:167, killed by a fox 16:33 <{Demo}1> evilhack is for ppl that like the early game 16:34 <{Demo}1> cause ur gonna be playing a lot of it :P 16:34 hah 16:34 i think jilies has only played a handful of evilhack games before he ascended 16:35 <{Demo}1> god i hate 3.6 speed randomizations 16:35 that makes me love them even more 16:35 knowing that you hate them 16:35 thank you 16:35 * K2 high-fives {Demo}1 16:36 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 16:37 heh 70% poison res, 'the poison was deadly' 16:37 K2, I did, but I'm less than familiar with Spork or Grunt 16:37 you know what... i think this is the same as sporkhack 16:37 NCommander ok 16:38 the readme i made basically states things you'd normally take for granted in vanilla can and will get you killed in evilhack 16:39 monsters generally have more HP, fight smarter and can use a lot more items and weapons and such against the player 16:39 <{Demo}1> basically u play, u die 16:39 but I didnt neglect the player either, there's some neat cool things for player roles and races too 16:39 <{Demo}1> play stupid games win stupid prizes, the game 16:40 {Demo}1 you're quickly going from being sarcastic to snarky to being an asshole. give it a break 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:12956 16:41 K2, looking at the deadly poison code it doesn't seem to work as intended 16:41 i = resist_reduce(!fatal ? 1 : rn2(fatal + (thrown_weapon ? 20 : 0)), POISON_RES); 16:41 if (i == 0 && typ != A_CHA) { 16:41 if you're more resistant, resist_reduce() will reduce it to lower values 16:42 K2, a lot of it reminds me of FIQhack, at least with the monster AI 16:42 so it's more likely to be 0, deadly poison 16:42 so the 20 and 0 are backwards 16:42 or 16:42 the 1 and the rn2 statement 16:43 i need to see the whole block 16:43 which file are you looking at jilies? 16:43 poisoned() in attrib.c 16:43 thanks 16:44 A_CHA is charisma right? 16:44 yes 16:45 typ != A_CHA ah ok 16:47 * NCommander will try evilhack after waiting for food to arrive 16:48 so basically 16:49 1-99% poison res, instakill 16:49 100% res you're ok 16:49 hmm 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2350 16:51 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 21374 points, T:13681, killed by a fire vortex 16:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:53 k2: i saw rodney only once on the way up, and he didn't show up on the planes. i'll guess that's because i got air first 16:53 hrm no he's supposed to show regardless 16:53 i had a bunch of cursing and monster mobs 16:53 I had plane of water first, with Rodney 16:53 jilles i see where i went wrong with the poisoned code 16:54 hm. maybe my memory is faulty 16:54 this was pulled from sporkhack, the partial resistances. looking at sporkhacks same code block, lorimer made an update or some such that I didnt catch 16:54 i can fix this rather easily 16:55 being a healer a poisoning bug would not have affected me 16:55 in 3.4.3 this bit in arrtib.c used to be in mon.c 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:47905 16:55 hothraxxa correct 16:55 *attrib.c 16:56 hey i didn't kill a rider. that's a first for me 16:56 hah wow 16:57 considering i did the grand tour 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 27081 points, T:14306, killed by a wererat, while sleeping 17:02 Bad time to be sleeping on the job 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:4227 17:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:17 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Gul Nbn Law), 3292 points, T:1843, killed by a bolt of fire, while frozen by a potion 17:20 ooh, bummer 17:23 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:40, killed by a fox 17:24 k2: my memory is flawed. apparently i never saw the wizard on the way up. the two times i killed him were in his tower and when i entered the planes. 17:25 for some reason i thought i killed him on geyron's level 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:50069 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:5590 17:32 thats still... not a lot 17:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Law), 8426 points, T:5613, poisoned by a rotted glob of brown pudding, while helpless 17:32 maybe the RNG decided to smile upon you today 17:32 ^ hothraxxa 17:33 it's happened to me before 17:33 -!- j has joined #hardfought 17:33 -!- j is now known as reatela 17:33 it's just luck as you say. i don't think there's anything wrong with evilhack 17:34 well 17:34 not that part anyway 17:34 evilhack is off to a great start 17:34 Brain got eaten and my dog died on Dl:1 17:34 it is really hard 17:34 you can forget keeping a pet in the early game 17:35 takes a lot of work 17:35 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1346 points, T:1087, killed by a gnome 17:35 if you don't have at least a leash, you can't stop them from trying to kill zombies 17:37 K2, eek, I ran into Program in Disorder 17:37 yeah 17:38 you can keep playing, known issue 17:40 does vanilla still say 'perhaps you better quit' instead of 'perhaps you better save and reload'? 17:42 no 17:42 k2: did you see that i had two piles of rocks lined up, and when i cast stf the nearest one was still rocks but the farthest one turned into meatballs? 17:43 no 17:43 when was this 17:43 when? this morning before i did the invocation. i was at my stash and was preparing to polypile 17:44 i wasnt watching you then 17:44 i can't think why that would happen. rocks don't get a saving throw 17:45 you missed? 17:46 its like falling down and missing the ground 17:46 i guess, but i've never missed with stf before. i thought it was a beam 17:46 it is a beam 17:47 anyway something you can easily wiztest 17:48 i will 17:48 thing is, if both had stayed rocks i'd just assume i accidentally pressed the wrong direction 17:48 i've... seen that happen 17:48 watching a friend 17:49 i would not be surprised that you won't reproduce, because surely i must have done similar before in that game 17:50 * hothraxxa was making a lotta meatballs 17:51 thats one spicy meatball! 17:53 one of my favourite things about healers is the meatballs 17:53 of course, not as much use in grunt and evilhack 17:54 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 17:55 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 17:56 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:25188 17:57 i love polypiling rocks. is that what you guys are talking about ? oh6 does it a lot too 17:57 Bloody zombies in K2 17:57 in evilhack 17:58 Never wanted to genocide Z before 17:58 -!- Joonaa has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:58 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:59 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:50958 17:59 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:59 -!- Joonaa has joined #hardfought 18:00 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:00 -!- ilbelkyr_ has joined #hardfought 18:00 yup. zombies are nasty 18:00 -!- ilbelkyr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00 <{Demo}1> not as the rapper role cause u can spit mad fire at them and then they die and if they make u ill ur rhymes just get sicker 18:02 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 18:03 lol 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:51228 18:05 mind flayer on dl2 bah 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:51259 18:06 oh mindflayer shopkeep lol!! well done, sir 18:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:06 and he be taxing me like 10 fold 18:07 yup 18:07 thats on purpose 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:51284 18:08 reatela: we were talking about turning rocks into meatballs with the stone to flesh spell 18:08 -!- Joonaa has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:08 -!- rld1 has joined #hardfought 18:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld1] by ChanServ 18:08 -!- {Demo}2 has joined #hardfought 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 803299 points, T:51311, poisoned by Demogorgon 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] NCommander (Ran Gno Mal Cha), 1318 points, T:3880, killed by a winter wolf cub 18:11 Bah 18:11 how was it? 18:12 -!- abzde_ has joined #hardfought 18:12 -!- beetcoin_ has joined #hardfought 18:13 hothraxxa: yes. it's one of my favorite things to do ;) 18:13 -!- dograt_ has joined #hardfought 18:14 -!- Joonaa has joined #hardfought 18:15 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Mon Clk Fem Neu), 92207 points, T:6166, killed by a dreadblossom swarm 18:15 so resistance i get from corspes is temporary? 18:15 -!- bouquet_ has joined #hardfought 18:15 -!- Adeon_ has joined #hardfought 18:15 K2, I see why you called it evilhack 18:15 it adds to it ? 18:16 ;) 18:16 reatela no not temp 18:16 its not binary (all/none) 18:16 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:16 -!- dograt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:16 -!- rld has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:16 -!- {Demo}1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:16 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:16 -!- abzde has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:16 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:16 its percentage 18:16 based on corpse weight 18:17 eating a killer bee will give you 5% poison res 18:17 -!- rld1 is now known as rld 18:17 whereas eating a green dragon corpse will confer 50% 18:17 and it adds up 18:17 you gotta work for full 100% resistance 18:17 reatela: get crowned 18:17 makes tinning kits more valuable 18:17 aye and i never found one 18:18 finally one showed up in my final polypile, but it was uselss by then 18:18 anyway my strategy was to get crowned asap 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:28145 18:20 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 4067 points, T:2166, killed by an owlbear 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:28145 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:28147 18:21 triple bones on lv4! 18:23 k2: i went down stairs and it crashed and i can't restart (not a big deal just letting yhou know ) 18:23 ok thanks 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:28290 18:24 dammit 18:24 -!- Adeon_ has quit [Quit: bye] 18:24 should i destroy game ? 18:25 <@Shin Umbygashima> Why is there a wand of death of level 4 though 18:25 <@Shin Umbygashima> :GWmythiMonkaT: 18:25 lol you'll see 18:25 <{Demo}2> google cloud shell is so funny to me 18:26 * NCommander is seriously deating sleep 18:26 *debating 18:26 reatela game recovered 18:26 but hold off 18:26 wanna check crash log 18:27 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Quit: stealing from shopkeepers] 18:27 i need to fix my rc file 18:27 there's erros from that 18:27 errors* 18:27 i didn't know google cloud shell was a thing? 18:28 same crash as elenmirie 18:29 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:29 <{Demo}2> oh man its amazing 18:29 reatela try not to go upstairs heh 18:29 gotta figure this out 18:29 <{Demo}2> cause its free no strings attached 18:30 yeah well i think i get like 300gb from google on my 'drive' or whatever. i can acess that ?? 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1438 points, T:3066, killed by a water demon 18:32 <{Demo}2> yeah its free for even accounts with nothing 18:32 they want a credit card? 18:32 <{Demo}2> nope 18:32 i just tried signing up 18:32 <{Demo}2> https://console.cloud.google.com/cloudshell/editor?shellonly=true 18:32 <{Demo}2> cloud shell not cloud platform 18:32 ahhh whoops 18:33 that is what i googled, but i went to the wrong thing 18:33 ahh ok . no it's them. it keeps going to the try platform for free page 18:33 <{Demo}2> weird 18:34 <{Demo}2> maybe its regional 18:36 well that suck s 18:37 <{Demo}2> yeah i wonder why that is 18:38 they assume i'll pay for it 18:38 it was all ready for me to click ok. but fuck that. i wanted to try it 18:39 <{Demo}2> yeah no i dont get any upsell prompts or anything and never have with any of the 3? or 4? accounts ive used it with 18:39 i've been with gmail since it was invite only!! i feel like an angry old man right now 18:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 8528 points, T:6116, killed by a gremlin 18:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:47 hah, just got revenge on the kobold with a wand of death that snotted me in the last game 18:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:51 had to kill both raisse and grasshopper ghosts 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1852 points, T:2807, killed by a giant bat 19:00 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:07 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 19:13 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 19:15 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 4103 points, T:2388, killed by a dwarf 19:15 so many awesome bones in the mines right now 19:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:22 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:32 [hdf-us] [fh] rog (zor) (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 27288 points, T:1256, killed by an invisible priestess called "phfn" 19:35 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Hea Inc Fem Neu), 145 points, T:227, killed by a goblin 19:49 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 19:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 19:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Hea Inc Fem Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1863 19:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:57 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Hea Inc Fem Neu) was given the Scalpel of Life and Death, on T:2516 19:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:04 [hdf-us] [evil] winny (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 3 points, T:126, killed by a falling rock 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5491 20:21 yeah fuck the djini that doesnt give me a wish but steals my pickaxe and i have to kill him 20:23 <{Demo}2> thats a meanie not a djini 20:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Hea Inc Fem Neu) completed Lokoban, on T:5460 20:28 {Demo}2 - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3448044e3bf632c3ed9d779eb515579d81a2bcb4 20:29 thanks for pointing out the 97% poison res still instakill 20:29 <{Demo}2> lol "pointing" it out 20:29 <{Demo}2> cause get it the sticks in the pit were pointed 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5697 20:30 i didnt know you were funny 20:30 hah 20:39 !who 20:39 K2: [hdf-us] fcloud [nh362] rebatela [nh362] saxonysam [un] hothraxxa [spl] MayoiSnail [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 20:39 NetHack 362-hdf update will go into effect later tonight 20:44 <{Demo}2> ha i dodged the who 20:45 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 20:48 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 20:52 <@riker> k2: what is this, reducing instakill chance in evilhack? something doesn't seem right there 20:53 <{Demo}2> nah it was broken so the more poison res you had the more likely you were for it to instadeath 20:59 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Hea Inc Fem Neu), 70965 points, T:9216, killed by a dream quasielemental, while taking off clothes 21:14 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Pri Elf Mal Neu), 608 points, T:1722, killed by a bolt of fire 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 32 points, T:104, killed by a falling rock 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 14077 points, T:6146, quit 21:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 277 points, T:530, killed by a gnome 22:06 worst monkeytown ever. izchak and a hardware store that only sells keys! 22:14 doh 22:14 no magic lamp either i bet 22:15 !who 22:15 K2: [hdf-us] fcloud [nh362] Karnac [nh362] picaresquieu [un] bouquet [un] | [hdf-eu] Kejchi [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 662 points, T:882, killed by an iguana 22:17 NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers) 22:18 <{Demo}2> now you can key the minetwon altar 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:39014 22:27 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 539640 points, T:69098, killed by a crystal ice golem 22:28 wow 22:28 just wow 22:28 oh geez 22:28 those hit *hard* 22:28 yeah 22:28 and i had like 10 pets around me 22:29 ... preventing my escape 22:29 :/ 22:30 i've had a lot of really stupid and needless deaths but that one was special 22:30 which is what I think every time 22:30 go out in style 22:32 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Cav Bat Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2319 22:33 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Cav Bat Fem Law), 4067 points, T:2347, killed by an air elemental of Ishtar 22:33 <{Demo}2> !lastgame Demo 22:33 {Demo}2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/notdnethack/dumplog/1555986016.ndnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/dnethack/dumplog/1533070765.dnh.txt 22:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Cav Bat Fem Law), 911 points, T:1308, killed by a water moccasin 22:45 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Cav Bat Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1746 22:47 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Cav Bat Fem Law), 2918 points, T:1996, killed by a fire elemental of Ishtar 22:49 <{Demo}2> !8ball should i go to bed? 22:49 {Demo}2: Very doubtful 22:49 <{Demo}2> wrong 22:51 found some bouquet bones 22:51 in Minetown 22:52 picaresquieu: I never go into icetown. Everything in there is 1000x harder than any other monster 22:52 I dropped the BoH before I died. 22:52 so it should be safe 22:54 well, it was cursed 22:54 <{Demo}2> wait icetown is a thing in un? 22:54 fortunately I'm a priest so I had the means to uncurse it 22:54 <{Demo}2> from the cold place branch? 22:54 <{Demo}2> what should i rename ndnh icetown? 22:54 <{Demo}2> to make things less confusing 22:55 name it the sahara 22:55 make ppl think its hot 22:55 but its ice 22:55 <{Demo}2> that would be a good prank but nah 22:55 call it 'the hurt locker' 22:55 ^ worst military movie ever 22:57 i had never thought of it as Icetown but I guess that's what it is 22:57 because there are four store areas 22:57 no shopkeepers but plenty of loot 22:57 it's called something else. I call it icetown. 22:57 sheol? 22:58 <{Demo}2> oh thats not its formal name good 22:58 <{Demo}2> also icetown is a dumb name 22:58 <{Demo}2> icetown should have that ice slidey puzzle that would be cool 22:58 sounds like a place where disney characters skate around 22:58 <{Demo}2> idk rn icetown is kind of boring 22:58 <{Demo}2> needs work 22:59 mega icetown 22:59 <{Demo}2> im pretty happy with the black forest and dismal swamp midpoint 22:59 <{Demo}2> and minetown is minetown 22:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:59 <{Demo}2> the archipelago mindpoint is also pretty cool actually 22:59 <{Demo}2> but icetown is just grottotown + ice - temple + shop 22:59 <{Demo}2> and lit up i think 23:00 call it the north pole and make santa a boss surrounded by all his elves 23:00 <{Demo}2> that would be a good ice caves end level 23:00 <{Demo}2> but we already have the abominable snowman 23:00 lol 23:00 make santa tougher than demogorgon 23:01 <{Demo}2> dnh demogorgon is insane 23:01 the end of Sheol is kind of anticlimactic 23:01 <{Demo}2> like orders of magnitude worse than vanilla 23:01 woohoo, crystal ice pick 23:01 and... a magic marker? 23:01 i cleared sheol and all i got was this lousy t-shirt 23:02 Do you at least get big points for killing the executioner? 23:02 <{Demo}2> why is there binding of isaac shit in sheol? 23:02 because Sheol is like Jewish hell. 23:03 <{Demo}2> ah 23:03 matzah should be a comestible. Provides 20 nutrition and takes forever to eat. 23:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:03 <{Demo}2> must be consume with a potion of water 23:05 <{Demo}2> hmm i might add chillbugs and white nagas to ndnh 23:05 <{Demo}2> but as way weaker lower level things 23:06 <{Demo}2> cause currently ice caves are... kinda weird 23:10 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 14376 points, T:6238, killed by a Green-elf, while sleeping 23:10 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 3335 points, T:3861, killed by an invisible plains centaur 23:10 >:( 23:10 step around the corner and there he is 23:10 with his like 4 attacks per round 23:10 <{Demo}2> are blue slimes scary? 23:12 not by the time you see them 23:14 wow, molten lava on dlvl2. 23:14 The kitten burns to a crisp. 23:15 <{Demo}2> what sheol monsters are scary? the unique ones and the crystal ice golems? 23:17 yes 23:26 picaresquieu: did you die right after you swiped my bones? 23:26 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 2002 points, T:1467, killed by an invisible plains centaur 23:26 same centaur got me :( 23:31 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1425 points, T:2542, killed by a pony 23:32 the grave marker said it was an owlbear 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3488 23:35 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 213 points, T:697, killed by a newt 23:37 yes of COURSE I should wield this cursed orcish dagger to cast remove curse on it, why shouldn't i? no of COURSE I don't have enough magic power to cast the spell, why would I? no of COURSE the useless god wouldn't help me out, why would it? 23:40 a stone giant on dlvl:2 :\ 23:40 killing my pet and throwing a boulder to lock me into this shop to starve here :\ :\ :\ :\ :\ 23:41 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 98 points, T:720, killed by a stone giant, while disrobing 23:42 it wasn't COMPLETELY dumb ok, i was looking for jump boots and i had found them, too 23:42 god i'm awful at this game 23:42 eh, I've seen worse. 23:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 12911 points, T:4658, killed by a giant beetle 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 4886 points, T:4447, killed by an owlbear 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Arc Hum Fem Law), 211 points, T:288, killed by a dwarf 23:54 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 144 points, T:538, killed by a small mimic 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:40415