00:01 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 76580 points, T:19367, killed by a minotaur 00:01 finally, I can take a break from sucking every corpse dry 00:05 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: back later] 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:97 00:09 <@Shin Umbygashima> Fucking minotaurs! 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bugpowder (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8602 00:20 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Bar Vam Fem Cha) genocided vorpal jabberwocks dungeon wide on T:20036 00:22 (scrollback) you CAN dip something into a potion of polymorph. I've gotten some great spellbooks that way 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:40504 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1126 points, T:1824, killed by an Uruk-hai 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Andrio (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2570 points, T:1702, killed by a watchman 00:53 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:54 -!- honu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:24550 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43417 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:43436 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:43444 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:43690 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:43709 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:25638 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:25793 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25795 01:22 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 01:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Andrio (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5270 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] Andrio (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1716 points, T:5409, killed by a watch captain 01:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Andrio (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 97 points, T:411, killed by a boulder 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Andrio (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 152 points, T:361, killed by a wand 01:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:45428 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:45637 01:48 -!- NCommander has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:49 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 01:49 -!- NCommander has quit [Changing host] 01:49 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:45853 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:45883 01:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:45927 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] Andrio (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3096 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:46001 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2352930 points, T:46014, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/nh361/dumplog/1555364841.nh361.txt 01:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Andrio (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1256 points, T:4192, killed by a wand 02:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:14 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 02:37 -!- honu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:40 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:48 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 02:49 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 02:57 You hear Aigorog of Rukaigor reading a scroll labeled DAIYEN FOOELS. 02:58 oddly specific 03:04 EvilHack updated (all servers) 03:04 ^ mplayer monster actually spawn now. enjoy. 03:04 gnite o/ 03:07 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:33 * NCommander pokes LarienTelrunya with an emergency pair of +1 polearm of bait 03:42 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 03:52 yo NCommander! I'm planning to have a junethack-finalized (i.e. feature frozen) slex version ready in about 2 weeks :) 03:52 that way there'll be a whole month of time for bug hunting before the tournament starts 03:52 LarienTelrunya, excellent, I assume you have extended the dungeon to MAX_INT length, and increased the number of sexy pumps so it's impossible to ascend in a month? 03:52 hahahahaha 03:53 well I've added 15 new roles ;) currently I have an ongoing game on the esm server where I'm playing the dissident role 03:53 (clarification, not that you would make SLEX unwinnable persay, but the actual game would still take a longer than a month) 03:53 Cause knowing you, you'd probably end up doing that :) 03:54 heh. while I'm planning to add more branches and stuff to the dungeon, I've actually not done so in a long while because other stuff was more important 03:54 so the actual game length will be about the same as last year 03:54 LarienTelrunya, I'd probably end up playing SLEX if you removed sokoban. I've been really stupidly tempted to make my own variant for that alone 03:55 is slex soko more horrible than the rest of slex? or than other soko? and is it mandatory (unlike in vanilla and all other variants)? 03:55 ...what? just play the game like you would if sokoban wasn't there ;) just ignore the pink upstair leading to it! the game is very winnable without it 03:55 LarienTelrunya, incidently, I'm going to likely be your neck of the woods in June 03:55 If you'd like to do beer, food and *hack 03:56 raisse: slexoban can be very horrible, or it can also be easier than vanilla, depending on RNG; it's still optional 03:56 NCommander: cool :) you're welcome to join my team, of course 03:56 oh right it's got random puzzles 03:56 one of the most evil things about slexoban is that there are some levels that are just literally impossible to solve without cheating :D 03:57 I just dislike Sokoban in general 03:57 And I really dislike that the prize is good enough in general to be worth doing it :( 03:57 when soko was first added I said angrily on rec.games.roguelike.nethack "if I wanted to solve puzzles I'd play a puzzle game!" and had half the newsgroup over me saying nethack *is* a puzzle game 03:57 which I still disagree with 03:58 -!- airwolf-irc has joined #hardfought 03:58 I don't mind doing vanilla soko because I've done it so many times I know it by heart, just do it for the loot 03:58 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 04:00 raisse, I generally know the solutions but I occassionally screw up. Also, rgrn ... I miss USENET 04:00 Or USENET's heyday 04:00 yes 04:00 reddit isn't a useful substitute 04:02 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:02 yeah, reddit is basically USENET of this generation, but nowhere near as useful 04:04 * NCommander sighs 04:04 Writing grant applications is draining 04:04 * NCommander needs Stormbringer or another method of drain-resistance 04:05 /me hands NCommander the Staff of Aesculapius. "Use it wisely in my name!" 04:06 er, did I have a leading space? doesn't look like it 04:06 * raisse tests 04:06 gah 04:06 * NCommander invokes it, and hears in a raspy voice "Your medical copay will be 200 zokomids" 04:10 Actually, a few games ago, I saw the rare runesword since I got Stormbringer and found a bones that had it so it reverted to its base item 04:15 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 04:17 * Andrio offers NCommander a tin of werewolf meat. 04:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] widget (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:6017 04:19 Andrio, that doesn't really help, plus changing between human and wolf every couple hundred of ticks in real life would be really inconvenient. 04:19 And it's really hard to cure in real life without breaking conducts since wolfspring is posionous 04:26 NCommander: but any catholic or orthodox church worth its salt could give you holy water 04:27 *I* could give you holy water! 04:27 #chatting with the priest breaks the athiest conduct :) 04:27 that's true 04:27 it's strange(ish) that using holy water for any purpose doesn't 04:27 And where I'm live, the taps have unholy water. 04:28 So I'd need at least two blessed scrolls of remove curse 04:28 yes, one to uncurse and one to confused-read 04:28 Confused read can directly bless unholy water ... I believe. 04:29 Confusion is easy enough. *points to the spellbook of IBM manuals" 04:29 I thought it only affected uncursed stuff, nothing that's already either blessed or uncursed 04:29 er, blessed or cursed 04:29 Though that specific spellbook might permaconfuse 04:29 just quaff some booze 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] widget (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:6590 04:36 raisse: Is this gameplay advice or for RL? 04:36 *shrug* general advice for confusing yourself 04:36 works in both contexts 04:37 And a nutrituous breakfast is important 04:37 raisse, breaks the soberity conduct :( 04:37 I had home-baked bread with hummus and a cup of strong milky tea and the juice from 2 fresh oranges, probably nutritious enough 04:38 raisse, fortunately there are pretty good ways to get confused without booze 04:38 * NCommander opens the sourcecode to NH's rnz 04:38 NCommander was never seen again, another tragic loss 04:39 [irl] [nh362-dev] NCommander (Prg Hum Mal Neu) ascended to the devteam, on T:201904170439 04:39 are you sure you're Neu and not Cha? 04:40 b - cursed helm of opposite alignment (being worn) 04:41 Actually, I'm probably Unaligned 04:41 I've forgotten half this stuff but isn't Neu the one thing you can't be with that on? 04:41 It doesn't change your base alignment so if you ascend I think it still reports Neu vs. Cha 04:41 vs. altar conversion. 04:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:41 no, if you ascend with a HoOA on it reports the alignment it makes you 04:41 -!- airwolf-irc has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:41 it also makes it possible to ascend on the "wrong" altar 04:41 I never actually used HoOA to ascend 04:41 * Pinkbeast grumbles about HoOA ascensions 04:42 I always knew it was possible but never done it 04:42 Also all three of my ascensions have been artifact wishless :) 04:42 I did it exactly once, in a tournament (where I'm much less strict on myself) 04:42 Opposite alignment or artifact wishless? 04:42 opposite alignment 04:42 I only wish for artifacts with lawful priestesses 04:42 Yeah, that always felt like a cheese for me. 04:43 *an* artifact: the Sceptre of Might 04:43 If I ever get to another ascension this year, I'd probably do a troll wish for The Heart of Ahriman ... or Trollsbane 04:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:49 the healer killer 04:49 weak as a kitten, those healers 04:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] widget (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7261 04:53 raisse, healers in general can't do much about caved in skulls. 04:56 true 04:57 but I meant "so squishy that the first kitty killer kills them" 04:58 raisse, I'm used to thinking of puppy crushers vs. kitty klombers 05:11 * NCommander sighs 05:12 Maybe I *should* try coding my own variant with the "Liberator" role I sketched a design for 05:13 NCommander: what, you designed a nethack role? may I see your design document? maybe I'll put the role into slex ♥ *bundlebundlebundle!* 05:14 LarienTelrunya, it's a few roles but it basically takes the idea that you're Unaligned, and start with the Bell of Opening as your quest artifact, and have no gods to help you. You goal is to get the amulet and use it to destroy all three quest altars on the astral plane 05:14 *few loose notes 05:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] widget (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:8213 05:15 oh I see, and I hoped it was a full-fledged role with ideas for quest leader, nemesis, special abilities and so on 05:15 the rough mechanic is that you get randomly attacked by others seeking the amulet to stop you, rating up to full ascension kit. 05:16 LarienTelrunya, well, I was going go retool the bell to have additional functionality when you're a Liberator, plus the ability to use the Amulet to destroy altars. 05:18 ah I see 05:20 LarienTelrunya, I could design some sorta quest for it although the concept is that the Bell of Opening "opened your mind" so you're unrestricted in all skills, but have no quest artifact. 05:20 heh, sadly slex already has roles that are unrestricted in all skills so that wouldn't be new :( 05:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:23 LarienTelrunya, I'd probably implement it as a standalone patch so it would be relatively easy to add to SLEX. Then again, I don't think you ever applied my wafer thin mint patch 05:23 @le?wafer-thin mint 05:23 wafer-thin mint (W) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 15 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 1d6 touch level drain | Alignment: -6 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, unsolid, undead, stalker 05:23 :D 05:23 and yes, the creosote special-casing when eating its corpse is there 05:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:27 lol 05:27 I'm happy to see it's there. 05:28 I need to git checkout the slex source code, but loading monst.c makes almost all my code editors cry 05:28 how many MB is it now? 05:28 11.1 05:29 hah 05:29 i think even vscode would struggle with that 05:29 I actually tried to compile the DOS port of SLEX 05:29 stennowork, it did 05:29 It was hilarious, and blew up spectarually on monst.c 05:29 Compiler ran out of address space. 05:30 lmao 05:30 oh yeah 32bit 05:30 or even 16bit? 05:30 1 GiB actually 05:30 There's issues on x86 actually using mem past 1 GiB without some additional brain damage 05:30 oof i see 05:31 Both Windows and the Linux kernel can use up to 4 GiB with MMU hacks, but most DOS extenders don't support it 05:32 Cross-compiling nethack/slex could be done (I actually did that to build nethack with OpenWatcom as an unrelated experiment) but it's painful 05:32 Mostly because dgen's output is platform depndent 05:32 NetHack's codebase is a wonderful example of late 80s/90s coding, aka, dumping memory blobs to disk. 05:33 ... actually now that I think about it, it would probably be trivially easy to pop a shell with a modified save/bones file. 05:37 LarienTelrunya, I also vaguely thought about building a role built around the StarCraft Marine :) 05:38 or possibly the ghost 05:38 NCommander: heh, the new slex version just happens to have added a "space marine" role, but it's based on the ZAPM role 05:39 Well, I'd probably add new dungeon features for creep, and if I go for Marine, the quest artifact would be Dominion Stimpacks. Ghost - Tactical Nuke. 05:39 Complete with "Nuclear Launch Detected" 05:39 haha, the nuclear launch is one of the few things I remember about starcraft 05:40 my brother always wanted to badger me into playing SC but its interface is SOOOOOOOOO terrible!!! if I want to play a RTS I play my modded age of empires 2 :P 05:43 LarienTelrunya, StarCraft II's interface is a lot better. If you ever want to do co-op, I'd be in. You can get the free Starter Edition, or the original 05:43 (the original is free to play now) 05:44 * NCommander might actually have a reverse engineering thing he might do this weekend 05:44 uhh it's been ages since I played multiplayer over the internet 05:47 You hit the purple worm. It shrieks. 05:48 purple F thing? 05:48 whatsitcalled 05:48 shrieker? 05:48 shrieker 05:48 Mm 05:48 yes, they shriek and attract worms 05:48 worms don't shriek afaik 05:48 LarienTelrunya, so we can both suck together, I'm horrid at RTS games 05:48 I zapped it with the wand of sleep and stopped its digestive system. 05:49 heh. actually I prefer to play RTS games offline, where there is no lag 05:49 also it's a bit saddening that i already forget the name of those iconic monsters 05:49 mm 05:49 i should really play more again 05:49 NCommander: sorry but I don't think me playing online would be a good idea, even if I have fast internet now 05:49 I remember rushing with the mounted troops in Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds 05:50 Which is heavily based on Age of Empires II. 05:50 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:50 LarienTelrunya, fair enough :), suppose it could be worse if you had a WoW addiction. 05:51 Oh god 05:51 Oh ElberethElberethElberethElberethElbereth 05:51 course, there's always Diablo if you wanted a rogue-like experience multiplayer 05:52 diablo is quite crawl-like iom 05:52 imo 05:52 my diablo 2 is also heavily modded and I wouldn't be able to stand playing vanilla again (same for aoe2) 05:54 I actually never played Diablo, although I believe it's possible to do modded multiplayer (or I could *make* it possible. Fear my reverse engineering skillz) 05:54 I think she'll sacrifice my corpse to Moloch now, it was in the orctown temple 05:55 NCommander: modded d2 multiplayer is possible if, and only if, all players have the same mod installed and are using "other multiplayer" (open laggelnet or a lan connection) 05:56 LarienTelrunya, or PvPGN which is a private Battle.NET instance and can accept modded games. 05:56 * NCommander did that for modded StarCraft 06:01 Was pretty neat to sign into PvPGN and appear with the B.NET icon or Blizzard icon for server ops 06:01 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 06:05 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:09 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:11 That's right 06:11 Steal the cursed daggers from a bones pile 06:38 unfortunately blizzard is now merely mediocre with only a single decently popular franchise, overwatch 06:38 the good people have left, the assholes from activision are taking over 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] widget (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14201 06:43 stennowork, StarCraft II still seems pretty active although the lore has been frozen since 2016 07:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:32 NCommander, it's somewhat active, yes 07:32 but a far cry from the heyday 07:32 hayday 07:32 w/e 07:32 that thing 07:36 it's heyday, apparently "an alteration of heyda (1520s), an exclamation of playfulness, cheerfulness, or surprise something like Modern English hurrah" 07:36 i got to wondering 07:37 so it could as well be yay-day 07:37 far cry from the hurrah times 07:37 =) 07:37 "last hurrah" sounds pretty similar, but it implies being closer to The End 07:39 i am ok with 'far cry freom the last hurrah' 07:50 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:52 \o/ 07:55 how nice of odin 07:55 i read that as 'encrusted' 07:55 to entrust you with his valuable plate mail 07:55 dunno why, i'm the one that wrote it 07:55 <--- weird 07:56 lol 07:56 actually, in evilhack (and sporkhack) any regular gear you get from saccing is blessed, enchanted and fooproofed 07:56 it can actually help a lot in the early game if you get the right stuff 07:57 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 08:00 aww, it doesn't say what it was 08:01 hmm 08:01 maybe it *could* 08:01 * K2 has a look 08:01 it does for 362 I think 08:01 hmm i dont think so, this is the same livelog code from it 08:01 plus a few things i added 08:02 oh, I'm thinking of the altar message 08:02 i can compare tho 08:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:05 hmm 08:05 so, what if the polymorphed object is in a pile 08:06 whats the first object? 08:06 does it report the old object, or what it turned into? 08:07 I'd say don't bother :-) 08:07 I was mistaken, okay? 08:07 ok 08:07 :) 08:07 just looking at the code made me ask those questions 08:07 first object should be the one on top of the pile? 08:08 I don't know why I thought I remembered it 08:08 its not a bad idea 08:09 maybe something like 'elenmirie (Val Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, turning a newt into a balrog, on T:16155' 08:09 hah 08:09 polymorphed her first object, creating a glass golem? 08:10 I wouldn't call a newt an object, and anyway I don't think polying creatures even breaks the conduct 08:10 correct, it doesn't 08:11 well its just an example 08:11 i thought newt -> balrog was chuckle worthy 08:12 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 08:13 <@Tone> You'd have to make sure it doesn't give out identification information too 08:13 <@Tone> Could be fun though 08:14 raisse is correct though... looking at the code some more, i dont think the juice is worth the squeeze 08:15 ok, back to trying to fix bugs and such 08:15 and work 08:15 nethack stuff > work 08:16 fixed a big one a few hours ago 08:16 mplayers werent being generated except in astral. turns out its all about placement in monst.c 08:16 mostly 08:19 <@Khor> @stennowork ayaya 08:19 CmonBruh @khoR 08:19 you changed to the dark side? 08:19 as in, discord instead of irc 08:24 <@Khor> Well, the only reason I was in IRC was because of Nethack 08:24 <@Khor> How are you? Still arround I see 😛 08:25 yeah but i didn't do much in the last year or so either, regarding nethack 08:25 currently coding something silly using the new nethack vt_tiledata and node 08:25 but in my private life, everything is fine :D 08:25 can't complain 08:26 are you still living in barcelona? 08:26 stenno's jedi training is progressing well 08:26 -.- 08:26 o.O 08:27 <@Khor> Yeah 08:27 <@Khor> Started working again recently 08:27 yay! 08:27 progress all around 08:27 <@Khor> Which has made me... Kind of depressed actually. But it's what I gotta do I guess. 08:27 <@Khor> Te place is nice. 08:28 eh you will get used to it again 08:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:49 @sl?sabot appropriable 08:49 @le?sabot appropriable 08:49 No such monster. 08:49 lies 08:51 !who 08:51 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] widget [nh362] samiam [nh362] Leggman [nh362] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] janekw [nh362] spontiff [nh362] Andrio [nh362] AlbertB [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 cloak of protection", on T:54245 09:17 new weapon syndrome 09:24 There is a grave here. Something is engraved here on the headstone. You read: "Beware the ...". You see here a bag. (loot the bag) It develops a huge set of teeth and bites you! 09:24 beware the carnivorous bag! 09:25 is that the opposite of 'saved by the bell' :) 09:26 eaten by a bag? 09:26 hm, I ran away from some rothes and got killed by a garter snake 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:19269 09:34 YANI: small chance a bag of tricks will engulf and digest you 09:36 when you loot it, or when you apply it? 09:37 and will the message then say "devoured by a carnivorous bag"? 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:5240 09:58 raisse lol that'd be awesome 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 6574 points, T:6392, killed by a hill orc 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:38337 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30707 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:38552 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:38591 10:20 nice hothraxxa 10:20 how was the healer quest? 10:20 i polyed the cyclops 10:20 it's bloody hard 10:20 rofl 10:20 ooh into what? 10:20 into what? a newt? 10:20 a stone giant 10:21 close 10:21 a bowl of cereal? 10:21 lol still H 10:21 oh 10:21 :P 10:21 he got me once with the staff 10:22 oof 10:22 once isnt bad 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "ice box named ice box for icebox", on T:38622 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2128462 points, T:38624, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/I/IceBox/nh361/dumplog/1555107165.nh361.txt 10:24 oops. just realized the blessed potion itook out wasn't fh it was holy water 10:24 good thing i didn't need it 10:25 grats icebox! 10:26 <@Tone> grats @kriptospicebox 10:31 <@kriptospicebox> thanks, that was the 2nd time i forgot wands of teleport resurrect riders and put them next to you, haha 10:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:35 <@luxidream> gg ez 10:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:41 apparently, to enter the castle i must play the right tune 10:41 hermes is an idiot. i almost never play a tune to get in 10:43 50+ ascensions and i've never played the tune 10:43 I like the sound of crushed bodies in the morning. 10:43 lol 10:45 I've mostly given up the passtune in favor of wand of striking and boulders. 10:45 yeah that's what i do 10:45 i go round the back, mostly 10:46 actually went around the back for the first time this morning 10:46 I tend to forget to bring in the scroll of earth. 10:46 then smash the drawbridge because that sucker is dangerous 10:46 i thought it would be like sneaking in but they all just ran and make that one choke point 10:46 And also, scrolls of earth are dangerous. 10:46 I died to one. 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:27355 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayer, on T:27642 11:03 was that the fiqhack bug? 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:31479 11:23 that was unexpected 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:23306 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23308 11:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 894 points, T:2342, killed by a guard 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] widget (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:20899 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] widget (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20905 11:41 <@Tone> huh, I actually use the castle pass tune most games 11:42 back door, dude. it's the best 11:42 a scroll or two of stinking cloud, maybe a ring of conflict 11:42 the passtune is nice if you don't care about the soldiers' loot 11:43 <@Tone> or if you aren't strong enough to fight through them 11:44 I usually stand in the opening of the maze to fight the soldiers and other monsters one at a time if I don't have anything to play the passtune with 11:47 here's something truly evil, imported from grunt: killed a long worm hp42 that was really a chameleon. it changes back and is now hp97 11:48 pretty sure i don't get full hp if i poly and revert 11:49 let's see if it changes again because if it does, it will get full hp 11:50 you do get full hp if you poly and die in polyform, afaik (disclaimer: in vanilla) 11:50 oh wiki says "the HP and Pw you had when you polymorphed" which is ambigious 11:50 ambiguous, even 11:51 right. i had this discussion with aosdict. you won't get full hp, but the chameleon does, at least in grunt and i think in xnh 11:52 anyway the cruel thing in grunt and i assume evilhack is that the shapechanger will take another form with full hp as you kill it 11:52 not in evilhack no 11:52 so you have to kill it several times 11:52 ah. well thank you for that 11:52 <@Tone> Yeah in vanilla you go back to the hp you had beforeyou polymorphed 11:53 an early chameleon in grunt is a terrible thing 11:53 in evilhack one you kill the form of the shapechanger, it reverts to its orignal form but wont change again 11:53 so a bit evil 11:53 but not gh evil 11:53 an early chameleon is always a terrible thing apart from maybe xnethack or unnethack which have in-depth poly 11:54 really surprised some of you dont read the change log 11:54 i've linked to it several times here 11:54 but hey, i like mystery and suspense too 11:55 i've read it. there's a lot to remember 11:55 also a lot of it is pretty vague unless you read the commits 11:55 lol 11:55 yeah, and it's not always explicit what changes were made 11:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:55 tweaked zombies 11:55 oookay.... 11:55 well 11:55 i tweaked the zombies 11:55 get offa me 11:56 :P 11:56 not complaining. just pointing out why your suggestion doesn't always help 11:56 details are in the commit notes 11:56 which are not directly linked from the changelog 11:56 perhaps my suggestions are also... evil? 11:57 muhahahaha (holds pinky to edge of mouth) 11:57 damn i loved the austin powers movies 11:57 so dumb and so funny 11:59 rough crowd 12:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 23 points, T:351, killed by life force drain 12:10 austin powers was great 12:10 https://imgur.com/r/FULLCOMMUNISM/gnPIoZo 12:12 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:13 k2: did you ever check out mario frustration? it's the mario equivalent of evilhack 12:13 no i havent 12:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR0HhI-nG6c pardon the horrible commentary.. there are videos of people actually completing it 12:17 There's a whole genre of bullshit-hard mario platformers, I beleive the most well known is Cat Mario? 12:17 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 12:18 oh ok 12:18 yeah smb and smb3 are two of my favorite games 12:18 Eryi's Action is on steam and is much more polished than your average flash game or romhack (It doesn't actually feature *mario*, per se, but the game is clearly in the same spirit) 12:19 PavelB: the most well-known one is, of course, super kaizo mario, there's even speedruns of that 12:19 It might just be because of my age 12:20 Not many people *I* know have heard of it 12:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv5Lpzzjf6s 12:20 -!- wvc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:23 played the lost levels for the first time yesterday thanks to Amazon Prime's free switch online 12:24 ahh, lost levels was part of my childhood :) and when I eventually discovered that lets plays are a thing, I was shocked that everyone complained like "omg the game is SOOOOO hard!" 12:25 as a child I never found it that hard... 12:27 Wait, were you somehow able to get that when it was released in Japan, or are you actually so young that "as a child" can refer to the time when that existed in the West? 12:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:28 "as a child" = about 1998 in my case 12:28 * jonadab feels old. 12:28 i.e. I had the all-stars version on the super nintendo 12:28 (which is noticeably much easier than the original lost levels) 12:29 Hmm, I was not aware of that distinction. 12:29 in the japanese version you start with 3 lives and if you run out, the entire world you were in starts over; on the SNES you start with 5 lives and only get set back to the start of the current level if you run out 12:30 that makes all the difference! 12:30 That was the era when I was multibooting and focused on learning computer things, especially *nix things; I didn't personally know anyone with a game console during that time. 12:30 and many levels don't even have a mid-level checkpoint, so for those the lives are actually meaningless on the SNES unless you're going for a highscore :P 12:31 My cousin whose family had a Nintendo, and my other cousin who had a Sega, were both off to college about then. (They were quite a bit younger than me.) 12:32 and now they're older than you? 12:32 So I was playing Freeciv and Wesnoth and such, and occasionally whipping out an old 386 for some DOS gaming, but mostly I was doing other things. 12:33 Apropos of this I remember the day we first got a copy of the SNES Mario Kart and all went home with the accellerator button embossed in our thumbs 12:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:26160 12:41 LarienTelrunya: Heh, no. 12:41 Derek is still younger than me. 12:44 oh so only one of them overtook you age-wise, I see ;) (sorry, I just can't resist) 12:48 i played NES and SNES at my friends place 12:48 because i wasn't allowed to have a console at home 12:53 What were computers like at the time of the NES 12:53 intel pentium was new 12:53 200 MB hard drive 12:54 233Mhz CPU 12:54 I mean like, were your gaming options more like nethack or more like the incredible machine 12:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Bar Hlf Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2578 12:54 i played the lion king, hocus pocus and skyroads 12:54 i think doom was out already 12:54 wolfenstein 12:55 settlers 1/2 12:55 the original Lemmings didn't work on my machine 12:55 but Lemmings 2 did 12:56 oh lemmings was great too 12:56 yeah thats another one of those old classics 12:56 *cough*colossalcave*cough* 12:56 that was before my time i think 12:56 well i'm old you know 12:56 yes.. 12:56 how about zork? 12:57 I can relate to fond memories of playing doom, at least 12:57 One of the few games that would actually run on our ancient school computers (where ancient is Windows XP at the time Windows 7 was coming out) 12:57 <{Demo}4> we have a bunch of 3.5 in floppies in my office still 12:57 doom was a gamechanger 12:57 (see what i did there) 12:57 :D 13:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 818 points, T:1237, killed by a dwarf 13:04 we used to play duke nukem 3d on the school computers ;) 13:05 oh duke nukem was the first shooter i played 13:05 with cheats 13:05 gta 1 was awesome too 13:06 GTA2 I played the hell out of, but nowadays the only GTA I still occasionally fire up is san andreas 13:07 gta 2 was also great 13:07 maybe gta2 was the most iconic 13:07 'elvis has left the building' etc 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 7481 points, T:10389, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3685 13:08 gta 2 aged really well 13:08 it could be a modern-day indie game 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:57565 13:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 894 points, T:1233, killed by a dwarf 13:31 woo, colossal cave 13:32 I played that off of a mainframe at stanford via a printing terminal with an acoustic coupled modem that my father brought home 13:32 when the voodoo 3dfx cards came out, and ID software released the gl patch for quake 13:32 that was a game changer too 13:32 true 3d 13:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Pir Elf Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:2117 13:47 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 15318 points, T:8852, killed by a mumak 13:52 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Bar Hlf Fem Cha), 17240 points, T:5166, killed by a phase spider, while praying 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6374 points, T:6897, killed by a wolf 14:02 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2015 points, T:1844, killed by a soldier ant 14:03 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 302904 points, T:28660, killed by a red dragon 14:12 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 150 points, T:275, killed by a sewer rat 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2360 14:20 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 14:21 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1304 points, T:910, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:23 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 51 points, T:121, killed by a sewer rat 14:23 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:23 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:26 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 93 points, T:387, killed by a fox 14:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:35 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 472 points, T:1054, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 14:44 wow, just found Fire Brand laying around in the Mines 14:44 nice 14:45 <{Demo}4> lucky find 14:45 luck like this always makes me nervous 14:46 -!- probablymoony has quit [Quit: Bye!] 14:46 as it should 14:46 :P 14:53 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 14:56 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:58 !who 14:58 K2: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh362] Hekik [nh362] samiam [nh362] every [nh362] widget [nh362] kincle [nh362] saxonysam [un] Lachtain [spl] | [hdf-eu] wvc [xnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:56192 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:56194 15:11 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 15:11 -!- livingstone.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ EvilHack official release, now available for play here! 15:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 15:11 !ping 15:11 K2: Pong! 15:12 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Bar Mer Mal Neu), 584 points, T:2035, exterminated by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 40 points, T:153, zombified by a kobold zombie 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 0 points, T:19, zombified by a kobold zombie 15:13 ^ testing 15:14 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Cav Gno Nbn Neu), 625 points, T:1623, inhumed by a killer bee 15:18 <@Shin Umbygashima> Checks out, looks like 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 234 points, T:1827, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 15:22 weee hah 15:22 yeah we're good 15:25 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:26 !lastgame k2 15:26 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1555528436.evil.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/splicehack/dumplog/1544556994.splice.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/splicehack/dumplog/1553965296.splice.txt 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4283 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:4287 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:58454 15:46 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 8700 points, T:6123, killed by an ogre 15:49 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hekik (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10143 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] widget (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:23660 15:52 EvilHack updated (all servers) 15:52 ^ version 0.3.1 15:56 * elenmirie__ joins the We Hate Vampire Mages Society 15:56 tame one 15:56 they make wicked awesome pets 15:57 tamed the gelcube he summoned 15:57 ha 15:57 rofl 15:58 there, got him with the second scroll 15:58 Have you got the scrolls? No, I always walk like this. 15:58 ;) 15:58 !whereis elenmirie 15:58 K2: [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil]: (Val Cen Fem Neu) T:22244 Gehennom level: 32 15:59 oh, and got a silver dragon pet as well 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hekik (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:10298 15:59 nice 15:59 * elenmirie__ retrieves magic whistle from bag 16:01 hm, fire brand or cleaver? 16:01 fb 16:02 <{Demo}4> fire cleaver 16:02 cleaverbrand 16:03 The Count is destroyed! 16:03 aw. 16:03 yeah, going to stick with fire brand, even though I have no skill. Need the AC of that shield 16:03 <{Demo}4> firebrand is nice cause u can neuter ur dog and cauterize the wound all in one 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] abzde (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3038 points, T:6233, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:04 tried to cast force bolt, failed, walked into a floating eye .. 16:04 bummer 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 155 points, T:562, killed by a falling rock 16:05 {Demo}4 is one sick pup 16:06 EPI: instead of a falling rock trap, make it falling cockatrice eggs trap 16:06 Gel of the Purple Hair (my gelcube) is down to 2 HP 16:06 give it some product 16:06 so it can heal 16:07 wow it still works to smash a potion of extra healing on their head (does she have a head?) and back up to full HP 16:07 essence of vidal sassoon 16:07 yeah we boiled him down and extracted the bone marrow 16:07 :) 16:07 !o restore ability will do the same i think 16:08 right 16:09 Serebro the Silver Dragon still is 127(221) after all that fighting 16:09 poor old count though, he didn't make it 16:10 you notice you can feed your pet dragons like a purple worm? 16:10 yeah 16:10 burrrrrp 16:10 ah, the sound of nethack! 16:10 the theme tune 16:10 heh 16:15 Gel of the Purple Hair is disintegrated! 16:15 :( 16:15 black dragon 16:16 <{Demo}4> that's also a form of neutering that cauterizes wounds 16:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 6765 points, T:4216, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted Uruk-hai 16:17 <{Demo}4> don't have to worry about a gel of the purple hair jr any time soon 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:24974 16:17 lol {Demo}4 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:24974 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] widget (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:23810 16:19 The wolf turns to flee. You hear some cursing! 16:19 yep, mine. G-d minotaur! 16:20 just me and Serebro the Silver Dragon now. 16:21 See how long she lasts 16:22 !who 16:22 FIQ: [hdf-us] kdg [dnh] Hekik [nh362] rebatela [nh362] every [nh362] widget [nh362] kincle [nh362] Leggman [nh362] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:25 a mithril stethoscope 16:25 we've made the big time now! 16:26 do you get that when you've been a healer for $SO_MANY turns? 16:26 I'm a valk 16:26 hm 16:26 oh yes, still the centaur valk 16:26 but I feel like a doctor now that I've got a mithril stethoscope! 16:27 even my doctor doesn't have a mithril stethoscope! I think hers is stainless steel 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8027 16:27 stainless steel is a mundane and very poor substitute for mithril 16:27 yes 16:30 Serebro swallows the minotaur. "Burrrrp!" The minotaur is killed! 16:30 well done dragon! 16:30 good dragon. have a dragon treat! 16:31 wasn't that minotaur the dragon treat? 16:31 yes :) 16:31 I just had another player monster 16:31 dead now 16:34 ok, Jubes casts spells 16:35 didn't help him much, though 16:35 when you finish this game and try another, it'll be 0.3.1 16:35 what spells? 16:35 less mplayer spawns and correct names/labels 16:35 well, he hit me with a geyser and healed himself 16:35 thats clerical spells 16:35 priest spells 16:35 yes 16:38 oh, there's Penny the Swashbuckler 16:39 she's been running from me for a while 16:39 the female names I made for the mplayer array, its mostly the girls in our girl scout troop 16:40 she's still got charges in her wand of digging, I see 16:40 lemme know if you run into a Kathryn, my kid will lose it hah 16:40 hehehe 16:40 I will 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 9024 points, T:6922, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted sergeant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:41 oh, wait, no Penny died here 16:41 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41 I don't know who killed her, it wasn't me 16:42 Oh, a magic beam trap 16:42 heh 16:42 elenmirie, what's the level of those player monsters compared to yours? 16:43 they're not much 16:43 I didn't see Penny's level (she kept running away) 16:43 but she was no match for me 16:43 i'm an obsessive stethoscope applier 16:44 yes, i have one now (made of mithril) 16:44 but most of my game I didn't 16:44 I'll check the next one 16:44 hothraxxa: ive watched you (and others) play where you literally apply the stehoscope every turn right ? 16:44 yeah 16:44 does it take a game turn? 16:45 no it's a free action that's why i do it 16:45 yeah 16:45 you get one free stethoscope action per turn 16:45 right 16:45 if you do it again it's not free 16:46 you learn interesting things if you pay attention 16:46 i always pick up them up and tell myself i'm going to learn to use it, but never do it 16:46 so if you're surrounded by several difficult monsters, think carefully 16:46 eg a dwarf with ac -4 16:46 yes, and also you can search for secret doors with it 16:46 if you're surrounded by several difficult monsters, just improvise with your tooled horn named elenmirie 16:47 and apparently, in evilhack, unlock iron safes 16:47 heh 16:47 right. i think that's the only way you can unlock iron safes 16:47 * elenmirie__ wanted to be a musician, not a horn player! 16:47 wand of opening, spell of knock, stethoscope 16:47 oh right, magic 16:48 Yes, keys don't work 16:48 it's a combination lock I suppose 16:48 i usually learn knock at some point and forget i have it 16:48 so using the stethoscope is the equivalent of lockpicking 16:48 I'm a valk with a shield of reflection. I can't cast jack manure. 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 325 points, T:941, killed by a water moccasin 16:49 I hadn't actually tried a lockpick - but K2's notes (that none of us bother to read) say only those three ways 16:50 \o/ 16:50 ;p 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 37 points, T:110, killed by a water moccasin 16:52 working on the 'burnt partly eaten' bit now 16:52 i see why its happening 16:52 heh 16:52 need to wrap my brain around a decent fix 16:52 keep it - barbecue gone horribly wrong 16:54 ^^that guy has the name of a particularly evil boss I used to work for 16:54 there's a book called "The Fallen Eagle" the very first bit is about him 16:55 doh 16:59 Sorry I got that wrong "Falling Eagle" 16:59 the other one is about much more evil things 17:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> Yeah I just about discovered as much 17:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> I was very worried for a second 17:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> :GWmythiMonkaT: 17:01 sorry about that! misremembered 17:01 * raisse elects not to investigate 17:01 The one I meant to refer to is about the history of Barclays Bank 17:01 the other one is about Hitler 17:02 faux pas! 17:02 I never worked for Hitler 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2055 17:04 I don't think you and he were alive at the same time. 17:04 no 17:07 right, off to bed now, before I say anything even stupider. 17:07 good night, all! 17:10 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:15 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had a leather faded pall entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:33044 17:16 *facepalm* 17:16 but its fooproof! 17:16 i guess he already forgot that +5 cloak 17:16 and the +5 cloak of protection that i'm actually wearing as i sacrifice to him 17:18 they never give you gloves, do they 17:19 thoughtless bastards 17:22 K2, how do I get into the diagonal pass in mimic of the mines as a centaur? 17:23 <@Shin Umbygashima> Can you jump through? 17:23 <@Shin Umbygashima> Otherwise pet has to some retrieval somehow 17:23 poly into something smaller? 17:23 <@Shin Umbygashima> Polymorph might work but feels too drastic 17:24 I suppose you've checked all the other places? 17:24 do you have teleport control? teleporting in and out should work 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman lying in a pond, on T:4252 17:24 ooh that's my message 17:25 how did you do it? 17:25 centaur ranger seems so appropriate 17:26 some gnome had picked up the luckstone 17:26 did you thank him before you bopped him on the head? 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:26770 17:27 (or her as the case may be) 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:26770 17:28 why would a lawful dwarf valk want Stormbringer? (can't think of another reason to name both Sting and Orcrist) 17:28 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Elf-Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1819 17:30 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] testuse (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 112 points, T:788, poisoned by a rotted fox corpse, while helpless 17:35 <@Shin Umbygashima> Enemy retrieval is pretty sweet strategy 17:35 -!- Frederic has quit [Client Quit] 17:35 <@Shin Umbygashima> Also idk about the naming, trying to game the artifact spawning system somehow? 17:38 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 17:39 it's nh362, so naming orcrist and sting reduce your odds when artiwishing 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:60775 17:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6827 17:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> So trying not to get artifacts? 17:55 hmm, all items in this shop cost 3 zorkmids 17:55 so I'll just buy all these scrolls 17:55 that sounds like a bug k2 said he had 17:55 i thought he said he fixed it 17:57 <@luxidream> whoa 17:57 <@luxidream> someone ascend evilhack before it's patched 17:58 i can assure you that not all shops are like that 17:58 besides, isn't that your job? 17:58 where's demo? he should have ascended by now 17:59 <@luxidream> haven't played in a while 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:61299 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:61300 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 speed boots", on T:61332 18:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:06 <@Shin Umbygashima> ; 18:07 <@Shin Umbygashima> Hmmm, what is 18:07 <@Shin Umbygashima> Oh, sea monster class 18:08 <@Shin Umbygashima> Would've been my third guess 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:61340 18:09 <@Shin Umbygashima> Now what could those be 18:09 <@Shin Umbygashima> P: 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:8917 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2843 points, T:3599, killed by a giant spider 18:26 So some zombies got loose in minetown, and zombified one of the shopkeepers. 18:28 <@Shin Umbygashima> Well fuck. 18:28 <@Shin Umbygashima> That a contact thing or just if they kill someone 18:31 -!- Frederic has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33 @Umby I don't really know how it works. Evilhack! :) 18:33 all living things grudge zombies and fight them. sometimes they lose 18:37 why am I awake :( 18:40 hothraxxa: I started aklys-ing a hobbit zombie to death that was in the doorway of a shop. Then I realised it was Semai the hobbit zombie. He had lots of gold and some potions, which was nice :) 18:40 You finish eating the tengu corpse. You feel very jumpy. You feel in control of yourself. 18:41 whut? 18:41 double intrisics :D 18:41 is that intended? 18:42 evilhack has partial intrinsics, maybe you're only partially jump and partially in control 18:44 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:45 hothraxxa: not sure. THe same happens in dnethack, where some intrinsics time out (those two don't though) 18:45 oh this is jt bones again. 18:45 second set this game :) 18:47 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 18:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11226 19:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Elf-Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:4196 19:14 sometimes I wish I could leash a monster to drag it closer to the damn altar 19:15 they're so reluctant to follow. Maybe I should smear some animal entrails on myself? 19:18 -!- UsagiMero has joined #hardfought 19:20 bug (possibly shared with vanilla): trying to target a leprechaun in iron bars says it's illegal, but actually works 19:23 "it's illegal to attack a leprechaun in a bar…", sounds like one of those silly laws that people like to laugh at 19:31 if it's on the books then you better abide 19:32 the dude abides 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11640 19:49 kill stealer! "The stone giant throws a boulder! The boulder hits Croesus! Croesus is killed!" 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 28534 points, T:11760, killed by a troll 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:35557 19:59 jilles: what was the race of the shopkeeper where everything was 3 zm? 20:00 sounds like a missed another spot to add a break; statement 20:00 K2, some kind of mind flayer 20:00 ah ok 20:00 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:03 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:03 * hothraxxa sighs 20:03 hmm 20:04 one day i will get through ludios without triggering a land mine 20:04 i'll need to test this, all the case: break; blocks are closed 20:04 no fallthru 20:04 i had that 3zm bug earlier with hobbir shopkeepers 20:04 hobbit 20:06 oh... i see it 20:07 yup, easy fix 20:07 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 23074 points, T:6633, killed by a rabid rat 20:07 early on it didnt click that PM_ is 'int' 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19756 20:07 equals some number 20:08 case SCROLL_CLASS: 20:08 case SPBOOK_CLASS: 20:08 srace = PM_MIND_FLAYER + rn2(4); 20:08 break; 20:08 the rn2(4) is way way wrong 20:08 its sometimes choosing something other than a mind flayer 20:08 3zm spellbooks and scrolls for everyone ;) 20:08 a roll of 0 gives you mind flayer, of 1 gives you master mind flayer 20:08 of 2 would be, what, manes? 20:08 yup 20:09 homoculus i think 20:09 (sp) 20:09 ah right, it has to be some weak i 20:09 because we've gone past the end of the most powerful h 20:09 (IIRC the PM_ constants are sorted by ASCII representation first and power second) 20:09 (although I'm not 100% sure on that, alphabetical is the other possibility) 20:09 yeah it took me awhile to learn that. the racial shopkeepers is one of my earlier commits 20:10 I'm trying to work out what you thought that line of code would do 20:10 its sometimes frustrating and takes awhile but i learn and grasp things a lot better that way 20:10 honestly it was a direct copy from sporkhack and i just changed the monster 20:10 it used to be a lich 20:11 oh, I see, and the liches are in order 20:11 yes 20:11 well, so are the mind flayers, there just aren't as many of them 20:11 exactly 20:11 so yeah, easy fix 20:12 i wish they were all easy fixes ;) 20:12 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1804 points, T:2448, killed by a giant spider 20:13 how have you been ais523? been a little while 20:14 not great, to be honest, but nothing unfixable 20:14 I often find it hard to focus on anything, so pretty much all the time I can concentrate I've been spending on my day job 20:15 and Nethack hasn't been that high in terms of hobbies, when I have time for hobbies 20:15 I have plentty of others 20:15 *NetHack 20:15 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 292 points, T:491, killed by a coyote 20:15 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 20:15 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 20:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 20:15 back 20:16 I've been spending most of my hobby time designing programming languages and running forum games 20:16 (these hobbies aren't connected, but maybe they should be?) 20:18 !ping 20:18 ais523: Pong! 20:18 <{Demo}4> I spend time drinking and eating pizza 20:18 OK, I am connected again 20:18 <{Demo}4> those r connected 20:18 heh 20:19 ais523 what kind of forum games? 20:19 <{Demo}4> yeah I am curious about forum games 20:19 <{Demo}4> I've seen a lot of bad forum games 20:19 right now I'm running a game where I play FTL on my own computer according to instructions given to me in the forum by four different players, each of which only knows a fraction of what's happening to the ship 20:20 it's going surprisingly well, all things considering, we reached sector 7 20:20 and are still going 20:20 <{Demo}4> dang 20:20 <{Demo}4> I'm glad forums r still alive enough for forum games to still be a thing 20:20 pretty sure i saw that on star trek: discovery 20:20 it doesn't end well 20:21 nice 20:21 advanced edition or custom? 20:22 AE + a balance/replayability mod I wrote (unreleased, so none of the players know the stats of anything) 20:22 :) 20:22 FTL sort of reminds me a of the first starflight 20:24 at least with my mod, it's about "what sort of convoluted plan can I come up with to blow up the enemy ship" 20:24 vanilla FTL is rather centralised around a few simple strategies, I wanted to open things up somewhat 20:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Ana Dwa Mal Cha), 33810 points, T:13257, quit 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:2061 20:37 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:52 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 20:53 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 3317 points, T:3376, struck down by an Uruk-hai called Ogunuz of Grisogunai 20:55 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:57 -!- dexap has joined #hardfought 20:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v dexap] by ChanServ 21:02 -!- paxed has quit [*.net *.split] 21:08 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2483 points, T:2047, killed by a lynx 21:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 21:12 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman lying in a pond, on T:4674 21:22 hm. i seem to have acquired jumping and regeneration but i have no idea how 21:29 -!- tonehack has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:34 d'oh. regeneration from the staff 21:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> And jumping? 21:46 <@Shin Umbygashima> Probably boots/spell 21:48 !who 21:48 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] oh6 [nh362] samiam [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 21:50 i am wearing jumping boots now but i wasn't then. i don't know the spell 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:62988 22:00 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:6, killed by a falling rock 22:30 maybe you got intrinsic jumping by eating the boots? 22:33 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:40064 22:37 hothraxxa did you melee medusa at all? or just reflect her gaze back 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:40128 22:38 i opened the dorr she turned to stone 22:38 door 22:38 pfft 22:38 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:38 i got jumped by two master lichs when i went down 22:39 i bet that was eciting 22:39 exciting 22:39 one of them deteriorated my dragonhide gloves, the other one drained me 22:39 * K2 cant type and eat girl scout cookies at the same time 22:39 om nom nom nom 22:39 :) 22:40 Are they made with real girl scouts? 22:40 have you found 'repair armor' spell yet? 22:40 hah no 22:40 i have 22:40 these are the s'mores cookies 22:40 but i also have more dragonhide gloves 22:40 ... oh, god, Wednesday Addams told that joke last century 22:40 the yendorian army is well kiyyed these days 22:40 you rang? 22:40 kitted 22:41 kited? 22:41 doesnt matter i knew what you meant 22:41 well kitted 22:41 fortunately the scroll took out master lichs and demilichs 22:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:42 i can handle lichs and arh-lichs are not likely yet 22:42 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 22:42 sadly i do not know charging :( 22:42 i've fixed the mind flayer shopkeeper price bug 22:42 just havent pushed yet, working on one last bit 22:43 was detoured (had to put kiddo to bed, fell asleep reading her a story) 22:44 i'm out for the night. in the morning i have to walk back up to my stash since i have no teleport control 22:45 alright, gnite hothraxxa 22:52 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 22:56 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 22:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 22:57 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 22:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 23:02 K2: I was working in the server room of a girlscouts HQ once long ago. They were storing extra boxes of cookies in there. I was hungry... I'll never eat a gs cookie again. 23:02 I ate an entire box of thin mints in about 10 minutes. 23:03 um yeah 23:03 bad move 23:03 * K2 has learned that the hard way 23:03 thin mints are vegan 23:03 might as well have eaten 3 bowls of Colon Blow™ 23:04 server room is a GREAT place to store cookies tho 23:04 nice and cooool 23:07 and this is why we test folks. almost fixed :P 23:13 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 23:14 If it compiles, it probably works 23:14 you keep saying that 23:14 that is what we refer to as 'alternative facts' :) 23:15 More seriously I appreciate enormously the work done by the author of "qw", the Crawl bot, which tests my stuff when it just compiles 23:15 The great Jeff Lait had a less good POWDER bot, more of a fuzzer, but some infrastructure to launch it in many situations 23:17 this was years and years ago... i read once this engineer/programmer had written a simulation program. its sole purpose was to find the optimal antenna shape/size/material for the best signal possible. it was some sort of quasi-AI thing, it could learn and adapt to a certain degree 23:17 it came up with this really odd shaped antenna 23:17 you'd never guess or even think that wopuld be an ok design 23:17 but apparently it was correct 23:18 * K2 wants that for nethack 23:18 i want an odd-shaped but optimal running nethack 23:18 Does anyone test with TAEB? 23:19 i dont even know what TAEB is 23:19 Tactical Amulet Extraction Bot; a bot that won NetHack once or twice. 23:20 (I think?) 23:20 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:20 neat 23:20 It grew out of a wrapper program to protect you from bullshit typo deaths. 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bugpowder (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12062 23:24 [hdf-us] [un] nutterbutter (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Executioner, on T:69455 23:58 !who 23:58 K2: [hdf-us] bouquet [un] picaresquieu [un] nutterbutter [un] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 23:59 EvilHack updated (all servers)