00:00 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 00:13 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Rog Vam Fem Cha), 22030 points, T:9308, killed by an ettin mummy 00:13 I hate her so much 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an incubus, on T:3544 00:21 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Mon Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3748 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Mon Hum Mal Law), 9268 points, T:5176, killed by a jaguar 00:48 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 29083 points, T:23420, killed by a leocrotta 00:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:49 i hate that bitch so much 00:50 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 85 points, T:340, killed by a kobold 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8063 01:26 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 01:29 quick question: I rolled a lawful monk - on Dlvl:15 I came across rebatela-Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu, petrified by tasting chickatrice meat with an Eye of Aethiopica. Is there no way to pick this up? 01:31 Pickaxe the statue, if your question means what I think it might 01:31 Nope. EoTA requires you to be either neutral or a wizard. 01:31 Oh, and it doesn't mean what I thought it did 01:32 the wiki implies that there's some way of changing alignment by sacrificing at the altar (but only do it after completing quest) - but gives no details... 01:33 "Your character does not normally change alignments, but there are two ways. You could wear a helm of opposite alignment for a temporary change. You could also try to convert yourself permanently by sacrificing at a cross-aligned altar under certain circumstances. If you do this before doing your quest, however, the game will be unwinnable." 01:33 helm won't work in this case 01:33 There are two ways 01:34 http://www.steelypips.org/nethack/pray.html#p7 01:34 Either sacrificing at a cross-aligned altar with a negative ('insufficient') alignment record, or sacrificing a co-aligned unicorn at a cross-aligned altar 01:36 Andrio: so the plan would be, complete the quest, then do one of those 2 choices (possibly using enlightenment to check alignment record - I'm not sure it does)? 01:36 A unicorn's much easier 01:37 Can you reverse genocide those? 01:37 It does, yeah 01:37 yeah - I'd have to rev-geno one, methinks 01:37 A stethoscope is enough, too 01:37 oh - I have a stetho 01:38 and this all relies on there already being a neurtal altar somewhere in the dungeon. 01:39 ok - guess I'll annotate this level and revisit the plan after questing (prolly after castle first)... 01:39 Hmm... ...there's a cross-aligned one in Minetown - will have to check it out again 01:40 There might also be one in the quest... possibly at the end level, I can't remember exactly. 01:41 Tangles - good point - I'll look for it, in case - ty 01:41 Master Kaen has an altar. I can't remember what alignment it is. 01:42 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:42 Is it a random alignment different from yours, like the Dark One's altar? 01:43 Yeah could be. 01:43 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 2928 points, T:5702, quit 01:46 that rebatela death was a weird one, too - by tasting cockatrice meat... ...could it have been an egg or would an egg have yielded a different message? 01:46 Why is there a peaceful bat on Dlvl:5? 01:46 It could have been a tin or a corpse 01:47 oh, a tin is also lethal? I need to erase my assumption that tins are always safe (apart from slippery fingers)... 01:47 Maybe had a food ration in slot y, typed 'ey' not realising he was standiding on a c corpse. 01:48 ah - that sounds like a likely scenario 01:49 eraserhead97: with a tin, you will get the message "it smells like cockatrices, eat it?", so probably not that. I don't know if this gets skipped or masked when you're hallucinating. 01:49 It smells like chicken! 01:50 rofl 01:50 pro tip: don't eat it. ^^ 01:51 one c-death that I can't help but repeat is the one where I'm trying to use blindfold-telepathy to be extra careful... ...and then I walk onto a rubber chicken square (without gloves) 01:54 We've just stuck with forgetting we're not wielding a weapon and punching it 01:55 one weird death during my last run still has me puzzled - I rolled an Orc and ended up in Orcish Town - everyone's naturally friendly. I thought as Chaotic, I could same-race sacrifice, but I ended up incurring the wrath of the Gods. Was it from killing too many friendlies (and messing up my alignment)? 01:56 I was breaking statues with a pick axe once, and a c came along... better drop this pick axe so I'm not burdened for the fight... forgot to wield my regular weapon. 01:57 As luck would have it I found my own bones of that game. There was my statue with a convenient pick-axe :) 02:04 oh ya - neutral altar in Minetown ^^ 02:05 of course, there's a priest there so sac'ing a co-aligned uni there's going to be a blast 02:05 -!- wvc_ has joined #hardfought 02:06 but that's still far away - need to clear castle and Kaen, first... 02:06 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 458 points, T:2362, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:07 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:89, killed by a sewer rat 02:08 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:13 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 161 points, T:910, killed by a boulder 02:21 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 334 points, T:1474, killed by a falling rock 02:27 -!- sodastab has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in] 02:27 -!- sodastab has joined #hardfought 02:28 eraserhead97: If you convert yourself, and not the altar, the priest probably will not care. 02:29 probably - I have never actually done this. 02:42 Tangles: good point - I think you're prolly right 02:48 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 702 points, T:1888, killed by a fox 02:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:51 Tangles: I've done similar. Went skinny-dipping for water to bless, when a c came in the doorway. Naturally my Valkyrie's first reaction was to punch the interloper right in the face, forgetting that I had left my longsword on the floor so it wouldn't get rusty... 02:53 And my next game, I came upon a statuesque statue of a naked Valkyrie named attie. And a convenient pile of non-cursed gear on the floor ^_^" 02:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:09 haha nice one! 03:15 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:25 yeah, baby - led the mind flayer into the spider web ^^ 03:26 hate those dirty bastards 03:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:30 if I use a rubber-chicken on a D, does that eliminate the chance for a scale drop or is it like "carried" on the dragon so I can just chip the statue for it? 03:35 I think it eliminates the chance of the drop. 03:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:37 Mandevil: makes sense - thx 03:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:48 -!- vevais has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:17758 03:58 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:01 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:13 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:13 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 04:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:28 You see here a long sword named Demonbane (for sale, 13332 zorkmids). 04:28 well, not at least Quetz won't give it to me 04:29 s/not/now 04:43 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:44 how many ndnh games were played already? 04:44 maybe i can play secretly at work 04:44 but better not 05:07 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 05:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:13 K2: Is it intentional that some mines levels are completely lit, _except_ where there's water? This actually seems excesively evil. 05:14 oh that is like the grunt troll even more evil 05:15 Yeah it's a little heavy-handed. I was wondering why I kept falling into water on this lit level? Then I figured it out. 05:16 I suspect it's a bug, I don't think K2 is really that evil. 05:17 "You hear some cursing!" Yeah, that was me just now. 05:28 Tangles: I already complained about that yesterday :P stupid unlit water on lit mines levels! 05:28 then again, the variant is called EVILhack... if I were the maintainer I'd tell players that it's a feature :P 05:30 -!- vevais has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:44 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:45 !who 05:45 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] janekw [nh362] elenko [nh343] | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh362] 05:50 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:03 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 06:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:20 I suppose minetown is 95% orctown, 5% mastodon-town in evilhack. ;) 06:20 I haven't had orctown yet 06:20 but I have had zombie town 06:21 How about mastodon zombie town? 06:21 Or Dispater's Summer Retreat? 06:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:37 giant spider on T:34 (and it wasn't the first one) 07:10 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Fem Cha), 4706 points, T:1863, killed by a bullet 07:11 Tangles: no, water shouldnt still be unlit if the level its on is lit 07:12 lol 07:12 evil bug 07:12 but maybe a feature? 07:12 grunthack wasnt like that 07:12 if the mines was lit you could see the water 07:13 well yes 07:13 "dark water" 07:13 hence my statement that it's more evil than grunt 07:14 this is why i havent made an official announcement yet 07:14 i knew there'd be unforseen issues 07:15 welcome to the beta test 07:17 but sounds funny 07:17 I think you should turn dark water into a feature. Maybe make it more likely at deeper depths, less likely shallower. Maybe impossible before Minetown. 07:18 that would be a nice new terrain type 07:19 i should probably fix the handful of bugs that have been discovered first 07:19 ^ LarienTelrunya take notes 07:19 ? 07:19 bug fixing before new features 07:19 why do you always tell me that and not, I dunno, the devs of bugged variants like dnethack or dynahack? :P 07:20 they arent here? 07:20 and dynahack is abandoned 07:20 also, you know I'm planning to have a month of "public bug testing" for slex 2.50 before junethack starts 07:20 and chris hasnt updated dnh is about a year 07:20 as a single person I can't find all the bugs by myself, that's why I need playtesters 07:20 right 07:22 hey amy we found X number of bugs. great, lets add 27 new roles 07:22 :) 07:23 actually I also fix the bugs that were found 07:23 * K2 gasps 07:23 wooo... i got light headed there for a sec 07:23 bugfixes and new content don't have to be mutually exclusive! 07:24 heh 07:24 i wont be adding anything new that I have planned to evilhack until I can fix the known bugs 07:25 ok kiddo on the bus time 07:26 fixing *known* bugs has priority in slex development too, that's why there are basically no known bugs on the to-do list right now :P the problem are the unknown bugs, which no player has encountered yet 07:32 run a fuzzer. 07:42 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 07:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:57 * K2 pokes LarienTelrunya with the dev stick again 07:58 yeah I know, I only have 15 days left until I need to do the feature freeze 08:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) became Crom's Envoy of Balance, on T:15212 08:09 I don't have to feature freeze for the tourney this year, because I'm doing dev on the bleeding-edge branch now. 08:10 nice 08:10 .5 for junethack jonadab? 08:11 jonadab: holy shit you resumed fourk development? how long did you pause it, 2 years? :D 08:13 paxed: what fuzzer do you use for nethack development and testing? 08:14 wouldnt it be easier to just travel forward in time and run nethack through a 4 dimensional quantum flux supercomputer? 08:14 it could run all possible scenarios in 0.04 seconds 08:15 * K2 then woke up from his weird dream 08:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:16321 08:17 isn't that what swagginnnz did 08:18 probably 08:25 !who 08:25 K2: [hdf-us] Grouchy [nh362] | [hdf-eu] jt [evil] spontiff [nh362] janekw [nh362] | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh362] 08:34 good to go Andrio 08:34 Thanks 08:34 NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers) 08:34 was the discord bot fixed, i.e. can discordians see our messages again now? 08:35 what did you update K2? 08:35 362-hdf 08:35 latest updates from devteam 08:35 do you know offhand what things? 08:35 or is there a changelog somewhere 08:36 this is probably best thing to go by - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commits/NetHack-3.6.2-beta01 08:36 thx 08:36 until now I think I was about 8-9 days behind 08:36 Breaking the fourth wall is fun 08:39 brb 08:47 stunlocked till death 08:51 jilles - yeah, gnomish wizard types are a bit more deadly now. inline with sporkhack behavior 08:51 i may tweak that a bit 08:51 spork wizards stunlock you? 08:51 yes, that also happens in sporkhack 08:51 oof 08:51 * stennowork hates stunlocking like the pest 08:52 in vanilla it happens also but the timeout is much shorter 08:52 it doesn't happen that often 08:52 so in sporkhack or evilhack, if you get a pair of them on you, it can be rather interesting 08:52 one gnomish wizard plus one or two other monsters is often deadly 08:53 yeah i think i am going to tweak the stun timeout a bit 08:53 if you have a unicorn horn it's less dangerous 08:53 it wont be back to vanilla but it wont be ridiculous either 08:54 perhaps "You struggle to keep your balance." shouldn't increase the timeout cumulatively 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] chip (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:21151 08:55 in it now, running a couple tests 09:09 EvilHack updated (all servers) 09:10 ^ this - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/0d3aba46e23a4b73e51fb99fdfe699785d7b4dfc 09:10 plus latest vanilla updates 09:11 K2, this is just crazy 09:11 it's casting a spell every turn 09:12 yeah i am already looking at that also 09:13 jilles, wait until you meet the nazgul :P 09:14 so an explanation: monster spell timeout changes are a combo of sporkhack and grunthack, moreso gh 09:14 but in grunthack, monsters could use player spells, and have power for spells much like the player 09:14 so they could run out, use potions of gain energy, etc 09:14 thats not in evilhack 09:14 but the low timeout is... 09:15 the whole emphasis was/is monster/player symetry on certain things 09:15 so, lets tweak this a bit 09:16 stennowork: nazgul screaming is NOT like sporkhack/unnethack 09:16 it has to be able to see you, not can you maybe see it 09:17 and the timeout is not as ridiculous either 09:18 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:21 K2, also, I think the shop price changes are annoying 09:21 thats not changing 09:21 its based on your race + shopkeeper race 09:22 right from sporkhack 09:22 same formula 09:22 the hypothetical optimal player now looks up all the races and does priceid the same traditional way 09:22 if you do not want people to priceid, slex's approach of making all items of a type the same price seems better 09:23 if players want to price ID or not, doesnt really matter to me 09:23 this same price can then vary across races 09:23 i added this to give the game some more flavor 09:24 but using slex method of making the same type the same price regardless sounds boring 09:24 yeah this isnt changing 09:25 ok spell casting tweak in 09:25 instead of a spell every turn, it cant be lower than every other turn 09:25 or, maybe even better... make it random 09:26 short range of numbers but random 09:26 with every other turn still being the minimum 09:26 hmm 09:29 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 426 points, T:604, killed by a water elemental 09:30 ooh a hobbit tourist 09:30 now a hobbit zombie :-( 09:30 the walking and _ commands don't appear to know that zombies are extremely dangerous 09:31 here the zombie was just coming around a corner 09:32 but it also happens that I'm moving somewhere with ctrl+dir or _ and it stops just in front of a zombie so it can hit me 09:32 that would be vanilla behavior 09:32 i didnt touch travel code 09:32 yes, it happens in vanilla too 09:32 but vanilla has fewer monsters where it can be really bad if they get a single hit in 09:33 yup 09:33 thats true 09:33 <{Demo}4> waiting and zombies is dangerous 09:34 <{Demo}4> for the same reason waiting is dangerous 09:34 <{Demo}4> no monsters that early on should be able to kill you in a single hit, regardless of your health 09:34 <{Demo}4> delayed instadeath isnt cool 09:34 <{Demo}4> but it is pretty funny 09:37 in vanilla they already can {Demo}4 09:37 poison instadeath 09:39 <{Demo}4> i think its widely considered that poison instadeath big bad and thats like how rare? 09:39 <{Demo}4> also doesnt poison res AND magic cancellation block that? 09:39 <{Demo}4> but yeah good point 09:39 i know poison res does 09:40 not sure about cancellation 09:40 <{Demo}4> pretty sure magic cancellation blocks the poison attack alltogether 09:40 <{Demo}4> high MC vs killer bees = good i think 09:41 re the dark water in the mines: on a lit level, you cannot see water but if you see a dark square it will be water 09:41 <{Demo}4> but whys the water dark though 09:41 the water is annoying. you can't even dig around some of it 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] chip (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22344 09:41 <{Demo}4> like how is the level light but the water dark? 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] chip (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:22346 09:41 i don't know, ask k2 09:41 <{Demo}4> is it weird special light absorbing water? 09:42 <{Demo}4> there should be weird things that live in it 09:42 <{Demo}4> that would be cool 09:42 * hothraxxa shurgs and simply doesn't step on dark squares 09:42 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Law) were saved from death by your amulet of life saving!, on T:2838 09:42 EvilHack updated (all servers) 09:42 ^ monster spell timeout tweak 09:42 i thought if you dug along a wall you could avoid the water. wrong 09:43 meaning, dug up the wall 09:43 {Demo}4 read the backscroll, we talked about the unlit water 09:43 its on the to-do 09:43 unlit water in a lit area was not intentional 09:43 and that stunlock thing with the wizard is even more insidious if he has healing 09:44 dance in the water and not get wet~ 09:44 hothraxxa: read the backscroll 09:44 <{Demo}4> it makes me want to add shallow ones to the archipelago branch in ndnh 09:44 already been addressed 09:44 i have read the backsroll. what are you referring to? 09:44 stunlock 09:44 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Law) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:2918 09:44 yes i know you just adjusted it 09:44 <{Demo}4> if yall think that is bad try fighting... some ice demon lord in dnh, its insane 09:45 <{Demo}4> he heals so fast you cant kill him 09:45 sorry that's a game design flaw 09:45 technically 3.6.1 vlad is also too fast 09:45 jilles you'll want to save and reload if you havent already to catch the latest update 09:45 <{Demo}4> i agree that 3.6.1 vlad is too fast 09:45 but he is weaker altogether so it doesn't really matter 09:46 2nd-fastest monster in the game after air elemental 09:46 <{Demo}4> cause he can hit you and tp back to stairs and you never see him in a turn 09:46 yep 09:46 bah. i've had no problems with 3.6+ vlad, even the time he escaped into the dungeon wasn't that bad 09:47 <{Demo}4> vlads branch is way too short 09:47 <{Demo}4> cut down hell, amp up vlad's 09:47 ok so 09:47 how to i tell the game 'if level is lit, make water lit' 09:47 *do 09:47 i can't think of fighting vlad without exca or other drli resistance 09:48 k2: i don't recall that being an issue in grunt. iirc i could see the water 09:48 right 09:48 <{Demo}4> vlad has 1/3 of the key to the sanctum 09:48 <{Demo}4> shouldnt he be more important? 09:48 i know... i assumed the code i was using would take level lit conditions into account 09:49 K2: Haha no. 09:49 :) 09:49 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Law), 9492 points, T:3658, killed by a werejackal 09:49 Actually, I was hoping to get .5 to save stable for this summer, but I may have to push it back, *again*. 09:50 {Demo}4, i think he is now much more stronger, then only thing that makes him still weak is that his lair is so small 09:51 jonadab :( 09:52 <{Demo}4> his lair is lame 09:52 K2: I had a rough winter, sorry. Spent a lot of time coughing. It's getting better now, but. 09:52 <{Demo}4> rodneys is 50x cooler 09:53 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 573 points, T:1063, killed by kicking a wall 09:53 jonadab I understand. this season was brutal flu-wise 09:53 i had the crud for a good long while too 09:53 <{Demo}4> there is no variant that has done sufficient work on vlads tower 09:54 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54 splicehack has 09:54 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:54 vanilla doesnt really have cool special levels 09:54 astral is a very cool level imo 09:54 i think the valley is neat too 09:55 esp as its sort of random now 09:55 <{Demo}4> what did splice do to vlads? 09:55 changed the tower 09:55 more like a castle 09:55 castle is also a cool design 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] chip (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:22825 09:55 anything else... eh 09:56 <{Demo}4> I'll take a look at it but I want some unique and memorable mechanic 09:56 <{Demo}4> like the wizards tower 09:57 <{Demo}4> with its weird double walls and strange portal hidden far away to enter 09:59 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 10:00 K2: 362-dev has integrated fuzzer 10:00 neat 10:01 {Demo}4: the lamp-hanger-uppers forgot to bring their WW boots so they could only light the land 10:01 oh that's answering somehting old 10:02 i'm looking at that bit now 10:02 the unlit water in lit mine 10:02 <{Demo}4> makes sense 10:02 K2: iflags.debug_fuzzer. currently only works in tty 10:03 ok thanks. good to know 10:03 * K2 doesnt normally play in curses mode anyways 10:03 paxed: the river making code on a map, its your code by the way :) 10:03 K2: i saw, in here 10:04 you know of a quick easy way to tell the game to make the water lit if the level its in is? 10:05 * K2 like show there's a 1 in 100 chance of water being lava instead - nice touch 10:05 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 10:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 10:05 *likes how 10:05 lol oh shit... i wonder if the lava is unlit also 10:06 one misstep and you're dead :P 10:06 good for unique deaths 10:06 heh 10:06 lava should always be lit regardless 10:06 its all glowy 10:07 oh i see, it IS lit 10:07 if (rn2(100) < chance && !t_at(cx,cy)) { 10:07 if (lava) { 10:07 levl[cx][cy].typ = LAVAPOOL; 10:07 levl[cx][cy].lit = 1; 10:07 yay... one less thing to worry about hah 10:08 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 773 points, T:1978, killed by a dwarf 10:18 K2: the river code was not meant to create lit rivers in the first place... 10:18 right 10:18 unless it made lava 10:19 so I put these random rivers in the gnomish mines, just like grunthack 10:19 well, you could put a check in that place for a "lit mines level" 10:19 in grunthack, if the mine level was lit, you could see the water from a distance (lit) 10:19 paxed: yeah thats what I am trying to do 10:19 playing with some settings now 10:21 not quite sure how to express 'if this level is lit' 10:23 fiyaaa 10:23 * stennowork dabs and yeets 10:23 fucking lit fam 10:23 am i doing this right 10:23 Things that are here: a small mimic corpse (no charge), an expensive camera (no charge) 10:23 that'd be a sucky camera. 10:24 K2: there isn't such a flag 10:25 ok 10:25 K2: closest you can get it lev_init->lit 10:26 Oh hey, it's actually +3 10:29 heh... nothing in the game even uses lev_init->lit 10:30 check splev_initlev 10:31 ah 10:33 <{Demo}4> splev sounds like an insult 10:35 bug: the priest got angry because of the gnomish wizard's spell 10:36 <{Demo}4> which spell? 10:36 yeah 10:36 <{Demo}4> explode? 10:36 its on the to-do 10:36 yes 10:36 explode 10:37 friendly shouldnt get angry if a monster atacks you and they get caught up in the damage 10:37 <{Demo}4> dnh has a bug that ndnh fixes that is the opposite of that 10:37 <{Demo}4> where you can kill friendlies with a certain attack and it isn't ur fault 10:37 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:39 <{Demo}4> dnh has a bug that ndnh hasn't fixed yet where a certain mvm spell? or attack? of some sort makes you sparkle if the monster resists instead of the monster 10:45 progress... 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] Roondak (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 369 points, T:1465, died of starvation, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:56 lol, that's a different starvation than "while fainted from lack of food" 10:57 <{Demo}4> that's funny 10:57 which answers the question I had a while ago, does anyone ever die of starvation while *not* fainted from lack of food 10:57 (perhaps they were, and the paralysis overrode it) 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] Moonwind (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1483 11:00 <{Demo}4> or some other multiturn action, yeah 11:00 <{Demo}4> does starving while x count as a unique death in jnh for all x? 11:00 <{Demo}4> or is the while cut off? 11:00 <{Demo}4> wait the while is cut off nvm 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Roondak (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 166 points, T:454, killed by a poisonous corpse 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:1676 11:24 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] Moonwind (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3511 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh343] Moonwind (Val Hum Fem Law), 8129 points, T:3515, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 11:37 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Bar Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of picaresquieu, the former Rhizotomist, on T:2604 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:23797 11:44 ugh 11:44 this hurts my head 11:47 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Roondak (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1340 points, T:3203, killed by a giant beetle 12:06 oh I got elenmirie's bones in grotto town. 12:06 Let's see if we can make it double-bones :) 12:06 :) 12:07 ...and some jerk zapped a wand of striking across the bones pile and smashed all her potions. 12:08 !who 12:08 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] post163 [slex] picaresquieu [un] | [hdf-eu] janekw [nh362] HotSauce [nh362] AlbertB [nh362] watermosaic [slex] | [hdf-au] Tangles [evil] Andrio [nh362] 12:08 bonesync still working, good heh 12:08 i love how you can just install a new variant on the server and it picks it up 12:09 yep :) 12:10 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 12:10 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:11 They were all clear potions anyway (potions of dark-water by the looks of them) and a bunch of thoroughly rusty gear to go with them. 12:12 there's a tinning kit and a gemstone dwarvish short sword that look familiar, maybe elenmirie found my bones from earlier :) 12:14 :) 12:14 EvilHack updated (all servers) 12:14 ^ rivers in gnomish mines are lit 12:14 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/79076a72ab645cc325737fe23a9859d8a4c23c96 12:14 K2: Yeah, I don't think what I had was flu. Flu doesn't last three months. I can't be sure, but I think it might've been pertussis. 12:14 LIT AS FUCK 12:14 ok it gets stupid now, sorry 12:15 ...and a gnomish wizard just fireballed me and burnt half elenmirie's carefully blanked scrolls :/ 12:15 jonadab oh damn 12:15 fun fact - fire/ice blast spells come from sporkhack 12:15 K2: "hi"? 12:15 another fun fact - they were set to not affect inventory in sporkhack 12:16 paxed: i removed that in the commit right after hah 12:16 it was a pline test line 12:16 if i entered a lit level, it'd say hi 12:16 the thought was 'ok, I can do things with lit levels here' 12:16 but i couldnt get it to light up pools if they existed 12:16 havent grokked that yet 12:17 another another fun fact - fire/ice blast spells do affect inventory in evilhack. on purpose 12:17 K2: Yeah I remember the fireball spells from spork - I see the behaviour of them attacking you point-blank and killing themselves also has not changed ;) 12:18 lorimer actually included some logic so they werent supposed to do that at close range, but it doesnt work 12:18 Yeah because it's evil. I get it :P 12:18 :P 12:18 lol 12:18 yolo wizards 12:18 I remember talking to lorimer about it, and I think he intentionally left it that way because it made him laugh. 12:18 for the glory of moloch! 12:19 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Bar Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of picaresquieu, the former Lookout, on T:3027 12:19 in the pen&paper RPG i play, there is a spell called 'wrath of the druids' which works similar 12:19 i believe it heh 12:19 the character just blows himself up and does tons of damage (but also dies of course) 12:19 big trouble in little china 12:20 s/wrath/revenge/ 12:22 well. at least I havent heard of any evilhack crashes yet 12:22 just odd behavior 12:22 * K2 now waits for all the crashes to start happening 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:13821 12:23 nice hothraxxa 12:23 there was no boh so the choice was easy 12:23 i assume there can be a boh 12:24 evilhack's soko, it'll either be boh or marker, 50/50 chance in that room 12:24 for the cloak its either MR or protection 12:24 the zombie adjustments seem just right to me 12:24 so I just angered a priest by engrave-testing a wand of light in a temple. 12:24 oh thats nice 12:24 and the amulet its either reflection or flying 12:24 hey but no reflection? 12:24 oh ok 12:24 partial reflection 12:24 Tangles yeah 12:24 sporkach :) 12:24 i already had one of those 12:24 sporkhack rather 12:25 Really? 12:25 yup 12:25 i actually made that a bit less harsh 12:25 Fair enough. Well that's a lesson. 12:25 Tangles: here's the commit - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/36c616f8076c62ca7bc71fad3c9eb4f6bd5e2a9b 12:25 i learned that lesson the hard way also in sporkhack 12:26 cost me a promising game (pissed of the quest leader) 12:27 upside is if you're surrounded by a mod of hostiles, a wand of light or scroll/spell has some utility 12:27 blind them all and escape 12:27 nope 12:27 *mob 12:27 bed time. 12:27 gnite o/ 12:28 \o good night. 12:30 ok... lets see if i can figure out the friendlies becoming angry if they take damage from a monster attacking you 12:31 thats not right 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:24781 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24782 12:44 aaahh there was a fix for this in sporkhack 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:4827 12:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:10 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:11 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:11 <@mtf> really sorry about that guys, wasn't able to get to my machine this weekend like I hoped =/ 13:11 <@mtf> It's coming back up now 13:11 <@mtf> @Tone @riker thanks for the pings tho guys 13:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:19 jilles: aww thanks for saying that you like slex's anti-price-identification feature :) of course a different approach would be to just have unidentified items all cost/sell for the same amount, but that would be harder to code 13:20 e.g. all scrolls sell for 10 when unidentified, but if you identify them they'll sell for their actual value 13:20 Eh, just make shopkeepers offer lowest-in-class price and charge highest-in-class price for anything unidentified. 13:21 Unidentified scroll labeled GARVEN DEH? Shopkeeper offers you 10zm, but wants to charge you 450zm. 13:21 Seems fair. 13:21 jonadab: ah thanks, I wanted to say the same but my way of describing it was sounding too convoluted :P 13:21 They already do that with gems. 13:22 that reminds me, when I added new gem types there was a bug with shopkeepers ;) (but then I fixed it) 13:27 K2: what does "you feel light on your feet" mean, that centaurs get at XL5? 13:31 elenmirie__: jumping 13:31 I guess you need to press j to use that 13:31 ah, ok, thanks 13:31 only know from reading the source though that it is the jumping intrinsic 13:34 elenmirie__ means you now have intrinsic jumping 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3244 13:34 cuz centaurs are half horse. lets jump 13:34 whee! I'm in the Grand National! 13:35 lol 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2481 points, T:3895, killed by a straw golem, while fainted from lack of food 13:46 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 13:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:57 should be 'by an orc zombie' 13:57 add to the to-do list 13:58 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:58 heh, I didn't even notice 13:58 my brain filled in the "an" 14:01 ;) 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2421 14:15 <[Demo]> orc zombie kill hard 14:24 thank god for geno ^^ 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) ate for the first time - food ration, on T:4233 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:24814 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) genocided class h, on T:24814 14:29 ah damn notre dame is burning 14:29 partly collapsed already apparently 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5560 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6113 14:36 <@Umby the Tired> Yeah, that's some shit 14:38 wow - that's sad 14:38 apparently there was an accident during construction work 14:38 the pics are terrible 14:39 <[Demo]> wizards can start with blessed geno, right? 14:39 [Demo]: yes 14:39 notre dame has been around for what? 8-900 yrs? 14:40 was build in 1160 and completed by 1260, 14:41 so, pretty old but not old-old 14:41 so... hothraxxa old 14:42 well. luckily normal fires dont burn hot enough to affect stone 14:42 at least i hope not 14:43 well there is a lot of ancient things in that church so hopefully they will be able to save it 14:43 luckily the fire broke out at the top 14:43 i mean yeah, the spire and whatnot can always be rebuilt 14:43 i wonder how much history inside is gone 14:44 also they probably need new bells 14:44 stenno: relative to anything in the US, it's ancient... 14:45 yes, relative to the US, most of the world is ancient 14:45 true 14:45 because somehow they managed to not only colonize the country but in the wake destroy anything of culture that has been tere 14:46 cultures as a whole have been doing that to other cultures since forever 14:47 it sucks but its nothing new 14:47 damn, I need some teleport control - there's a level with c-nest that's making me salivate - would make clearing castle so much easier... 14:47 maybe I should attempt to poly-rings to get conflict and TC (though I'm short on identify scrolls 8^P 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25982 14:58 !who 14:58 K2: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] IceBox [nh362] SkydiveMike [nh362] RedArrow [nh362] Bartlem [nh362] picaresquieu [un] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:58 <@Tone> eraserhead97 If you polypile the rings in a shop you could get by with price IDs instead of full IDs 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:36353 14:59 Tone: ah - thx for tip! 15:00 <@Umby the Tired> Just don't polypile the shop's rings 15:00 <@Umby the Tired> :B 15:01 EvilHack updated (all servers) 15:01 ^ addresses friendlies getting angry at the player when a monster casts an area of effect spell at you and they take damage from it 15:01 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/bf1387954632672d8823fdd7c178d047953d63ae 15:02 rofl - talking about poly-mishaps: once, after polypiling rings, I went back to my stash and found a single leash 15:02 hmm i forgot one bit 15:02 <@Umby the Tired> makes it easier to arrange a few "accidents" if you're in that particular mindset 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1020780 points, T:61337, quit 15:02 <@Umby the Tired> >quit 15:03 <@Umby the Tired> But why tho ;; 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 48729 points, T:17222, quit 15:03 I know exactly what you mean - only thing that brings more despair is putting a BoH in a BoH... 15:03 <@Umby the Tired> W h y 15:03 <@Tone> !lastgame every 15:03 @Tone: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/every/nh361/dumplog/1551183982.nh361.txt 15:04 <@Umby the Tired> Oh, was referring to K2's fix 15:04 why? 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gauntlets of power", on T:26237 15:04 as in, why did i fix that? 15:04 <@Umby the Tired> Oh no 15:05 <@Umby the Tired> Was pondering the possibility of friendlies caught in the crossfire reacting appropriately towards guilty party 15:05 ah 15:05 yeah they just ignore and heal themselves 15:05 <@Umby the Tired> Yeah 15:05 <@Umby the Tired> I know, just YANI 15:06 <@Umby the Tired> probably been considered already 15:06 doop doop on the way to the quest HEY where'd my arch-lich get to oh here is on level 1, guess I'm consolidating stashes first after all 15:06 but if say a shopkeeper retaliated against the offending monster... that's too easy for the player. could set them up 15:06 heh 15:06 <@Umby the Tired> no no, see 15:06 <@Umby the Tired> that's what you call the cops for 15:06 <{Demo}4> where do migrated mons live? 15:07 on the migration list? 15:07 <@Umby the Tired> Keystones swarm in and mob the jerk, waste him, then bounce 15:07 <@Umby the Tired> and you get a reward if you bop them first P: 15:08 <@Umby the Tired> we're clearly firmly entrenched in the land of hypotheticals at this point but it's an amusing consideration 15:08 <{Demo}4> would be cool to pull pets from it 15:10 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8371 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:27563 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:27569 15:24 [hdf-us] [4k] n (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Law), 3810 points, T:2179, killed by a bolt of cold 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:40765 15:36 heh 15:36 damn you work, quit pulling me away from more important things. like nethack 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] kdg (Bar Orc Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1127 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a scorpion, on T:6647 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] kdg (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 322 points, T:1304, killed by a garter snake, while frozen by a potion 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 716 points, T:2628, killed by a giant bat 15:40 {Demo}4 you found a special staff earlier in evilhack right? 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:41211 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law), 13302 points, T:7622, killed by a wolf, while fainted from lack of food 15:44 <{Demo}4> yeah I did 15:44 <{Demo}4> found it in the castle armory 15:44 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/af7e06c40319b7eb97257c6b3df3f5a57c607b42 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) averted death, on T:10927 15:45 <{Demo}4> oh they don't do anything 15:46 yes, they do 15:46 <{Demo}4> (kidding) 15:46 passively 15:46 :P 15:46 <{Demo}4> I'm a knight and found an escape one 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) genocided class R, on T:29750 15:47 the staff of divination could become popular i imagine 15:47 <{Demo}4> yep 15:47 <{Demo}4> need that Identify cast 15:47 ;) 15:47 <{Demo}4> oo and mm 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5838 points, T:10946, killed by an ettin mummy 15:47 the staff of matter is lighter than the rest 15:48 staff of war has a to-hit bonus 15:48 ^ useful for low level wizards 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:41503 15:48 if they find one early 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 8 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30192 15:50 staff of pitching, enhances to-hit of thrown rocks :P 15:51 <{Demo}4> staff of bitching, makes everyone complain that it does 0 dmg 15:51 ^ hahahah 15:51 Can an unaligned altar in a Quest level be converted to a friendly? I've been trying to sac-fest on a Dlvl:1 altar (only one) w/no luck... 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:30241 15:51 i wanna say yes 15:51 but check the wiki 15:51 dont want to have you screw up your game 15:52 wiki on altars? 15:52 <{Demo}4> wiztest it lol 15:54 wiztest sounds like a good idea - I need to get a local build of nh, right? 15:54 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Convert 15:54 'The altar to Moloch in Orcish Town can also be converted' 15:54 and i imagine the unaligned altars on a quest level behave the same 15:54 i can wiztest real quick 15:55 K2: I'd greatly appreciate it if you could ^^ 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 2 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30725 15:55 <@kriptospicebox> man i love jipping the lords of hell 15:56 eraserhead97 what role are you playing? 15:56 K2: monk 15:56 k 15:57 rolled a lawful - trying to sacfest to unlock longsword for Excal. 15:57 Is Cleaver in UnNethack the 3.6.* version with arc attack? 15:58 <{Demo}4> AFAIK no 15:58 eraserhead97 go for it 15:58 you can safely convert an unaligned altar on quest 15:58 K2: vielen dank ^^ 15:58 si 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 708 points, T:1381, killed by a gnome lord 16:02 <@Umby the Tired> @bouquet It totally is 16:02 <@Umby the Tired> I had it on another tourist I lost recently 16:03 <@Umby the Tired> Caught between soldiers and a cube that ate a dead chameleon and became a blue dragon 16:03 <@Umby the Tired> Fucking Sokoban :GWvictoriaNotLikeBlob: 16:04 [hdf-us] [spl] Lachtain (Bar Mer Nbn Neu), 2552 points, T:3526, killed by a psibeam 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:31527 16:10 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Bar Vam Fem Cha), 23440 points, T:13567, died of starvation 16:11 speaking of dying in sokoban 16:11 if I can't get ahold of a =SD I pretty much get screwed. 16:11 had some sweet lewt too. I hate not leaving bones 16:12 imagine if soko allowed bones 16:12 sanity check: stalker isn't human, right? (want to sac) 16:12 is not 16:12 TY 16:12 <@kriptospicebox> stalkers are animals, but they do have souls 16:13 they're E which is Elemental I thought? Not sure why they'd be E. 16:13 <@kriptospicebox> Fun Fact: the E in PETA is a stalker 16:13 <@kriptospicebox> probably because they're magical animals? 16:13 well, that was interesting - since the altar is next to the quest leader, I can't get on the square without him booting me out for being Lvl:12 - I guess I'll try later when I'm 14 16:14 <@Umby the Tired> wait Sokoban usually has a lot of food 16:14 <@kriptospicebox> sure does 16:14 <@Umby the Tired> Ran through it that fast? 16:15 I'm a vampire 16:15 *was* 16:15 couldn't pray my way out of hunger and there's literally no other option besides the =SD 16:17 note to self: don't attack c's as a vampire lord (on the YASD(c) list, more than once 8^P 16:17 -!- hf_guest_11 has joined #hardfought 16:21 -!- hf_guest_11 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 660 points, T:2220, killed by an elf zombie 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:26437 16:27 live videos of Notre Dame looks unreal 8^P 16:30 <@kriptospicebox> yeah that's some sad stuff right there 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:26998 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 25 arrows on an altar, on T:3815 16:39 <{Demo}4> found some jt bones 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1602 points, T:2572, poisoned by an orcish arrow 16:46 <{Demo}4> ooh found a cool evilhack bug 16:46 <{Demo}4> "You aren't disintegrated, but that hurts!" but i took no damage 16:48 <{Demo}4> oh hmm happened again and actaully did damage weird 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 178670 points, T:28598, killed by an ogre king 16:49 MR 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:54665 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:54782 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 2793 points, T:2424, killed by a giant mimic 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 298 points, T:768, killed by a gas spore's explosion 16:57 tonight will work on having the random vault levels not spawn on levels that aren't appropriate for it 16:57 seen a few instances of an ogre or troll showing up on dlvl 1 16:57 bit too evil 16:57 time to get the kid, see you all later 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1948 points, T:4327, killed by a giant beetle 17:02 <{Demo}4> \o/ teleport control 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 61 points, T:231, killed by a kobold zombie 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:37840 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 977 points, T:3524, killed by a killer bee 17:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] kdg (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 9596 points, T:7608, quit 17:18 <{Demo}4> ugh a magical eye 17:21 -!- unhold has joined #hardfought 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:57395 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 88 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:57543 17:24 <{Demo}4> why cant i bribe demogorgon :( 17:30 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:31 <{Demo}4> hmm i have no way to attack mind flayers... 17:32 <{Demo}4> eh time to wish for a spellbook of magic missile? 17:33 \o/ magic lamp drop from yeti 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:58087 17:35 i was going to say in vanilla it's not impossible to write an unkown lvl 2 spellbook if your luck is maxed (and you have a full marker), but no idea about evilhack 17:35 it's not a bad wish though considering how useful the spell is 17:36 rebatela: thx for your bonez on Dlvl:15 - rebatela-Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu, petrified by tasting chickatrice meat. 17:36 <{Demo}4> magic markers are turbo limited 17:36 there's an EYE OF AETHIOPICA that I can't pick up tho (I rolled a lawful monk) 17:37 no problem 17:37 i thought it was a pyrolisk 17:37 sucks about the eye tho lol 17:37 monks with both eyes kick ass ! 17:38 yeah - I have a cunning plan for that - I'll need to rev-geno a white unicorn and sacrifice it on quest altar 17:39 oops - I meant the Minetown neutral altar 17:39 just make sure you are admitted to quest first i think ? 17:39 the quest altar I need for sac-festing for a weapon (so I can dip for Excalibur - if that fails, I'll go for the alignment change to neutral) 17:40 I've read about people doing that with knights. And there actually IS a neutral altar in the knight quest 17:41 re: quest altar, I almost got away with it w/Lvl:12, but unfortunately, the altar is right next to the QL so stepping onto the altar was an automatic port-out 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Kni Hum Mal Law), 27169 points, T:11490, killed by a leocrotta 17:41 yes - I need to finish the quest first, before any alignment-change attempts - or it's a lost game 17:42 right.. i think you might just have to have the door unlocked (because you get the bell without dealing with the quest leader again) but i'm not sure 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) averted death, on T:58669 17:43 <{Demo}4> motherfucker 17:43 anyhoo - I got a =oConflict and I've geno'ed L's and h's - so I'm heading down to do castle before quest (tho, I'm going to cheat with scroll of SM on Kaen - I hate that bastard) 17:44 <{Demo}4> i started dying of stoning so i took a bite of my lizard corpse and choked to death 17:44 yeah, that's what i do... he used to be much harder in 3.4.3 cuz that didn't work 17:44 damn 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Mon Hum Fem Law), 91 points, T:462, killed by a newt, while reading a book 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed amulet of life saving", on T:58679 17:44 Demo: I think I'm gonna take off my ring of SD 17:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:45 that's the most frustrating way to day (one of them at least). I've choked on many a wraith corpse right after eating a dragon 17:45 <{Demo}4> i didnt even think to check food 17:45 yeah - choking on wraith corpse is just SO EVIL 8^P 17:46 <{Demo}4> wait wtf vlad has casting? 17:46 vlad is buff now 17:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:58847 17:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:58848 17:48 <{Demo}4> what a bad time 17:51 if I'm >NOT< wielding a rubber chicken, but it's in open inventory, and I fall into a pit, will I get stoned? 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33778 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33779 17:51 I'm wondering, because I always put it in a bag, but no sure if I need to... 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:59287 18:05 oh, fun - Ludios 18:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) bribed Geryon with 180 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:59963 18:06 <{Demo}4> if only i could pay a few hundred for safe travel through hell 18:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:38599 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) bribed Dispater with 154 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:60712 18:21 two sets of silver dragon scale drops in Ludios... ...and I'm a monk 8^P 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:6182 18:24 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6484 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:30750 18:27 <{Demo}4> 3 arch lichs have randomly spawned on this level while ive been trying to find the stairs down 18:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Pir Dro Mal Neu), 777 points, T:1390, killed by a dwarf 18:28 damn 18:30 so in the evilhack mines, there is no guarantee that there is a path from up stairs to down stairs that doesn't require some way to cross water 18:31 correct 18:31 just like grunthack 18:31 sometimes you're lucky, sometimes not 18:31 i have a ring of levitation 18:31 \o/ 18:31 the thing is, sometimes you can't even dig a path 18:31 <{Demo}4> gehennom sucks k2 can u make it less mean? 18:32 amulet of flying is a thing too 18:32 {Demo}4 prob not 18:32 <{Demo}4> im not even sure how its just mean 18:32 <{Demo}4> maybe im too weak 18:32 <{Demo}4> how do i be less weak? 18:32 you havent genocided liches yet? 18:32 <{Demo}4> i havent found geno 18:32 doh 18:32 <{Demo}4> ok so heres my shitlist 18:33 <{Demo}4> L, V, h 18:34 <{Demo}4> wish i had branchporting 18:35 surprised bribe prices arent higher for bribes in vanilla yet 18:36 {Demo}4 i'm curious, have you read the readme for evilhack at all? 18:37 <{Demo}4> I've glanced at and skimmed some shit, what's the most important shit to know? 18:37 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/README - 3rd paragraph 18:38 oh yeah... how many mplayers have you seen so far? 18:39 you don't have grunt-style mplayers do you? 18:39 i do 18:39 oh cool. i like those 18:39 dangerous buggers 18:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Shazam (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 732 points, T:2500, crushed by a falling boulder 18:40 they're kitted out like gh too 18:40 that's why i like them 18:40 can be dangerous but if you kill one, you basically have most of an asc kit 18:40 also why you never take the bag from grunt soko 18:40 well, i never do 18:40 thats why i asked demo if he's come across any yet 18:41 <{Demo}4> I've seen 0 18:41 how far are you 18:41 oh 18:41 geryon 18:41 <{Demo}4> I've cleared all purple & but demo 18:41 hmm 18:41 should have seen some by now 18:41 you should have seen some much sooner 18:42 around dlvl 12-14 or so 18:42 in grunt you start seeing them before the castle 18:42 ok i'm putting on this lead helmet 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8420 18:43 i'll have a look at mplayer generation later... if they dont show up until astral still thats ok, but they should have been seen well before now 18:43 low on list of priorities to fix 18:44 <{Demo}4> this is way harder than grunt 18:44 yup 18:44 its more inline with sporkhack imo 18:44 <{Demo}4> yeah 18:44 <{Demo}4> but with a mandated demo fight 18:44 <{Demo}4> not sure how to do that 18:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9012 18:45 bah 18:45 <{Demo}4> anybody know how to do that? 18:46 <{Demo}4> at this point all I can see viable is to clear up to demo and then altar scum for a very long time 18:51 i thought you already figured out altar scumming isnt the same as vanilla 18:52 but, to take out your namesake - find some potions of paralysis 18:53 gonna drop T corpses in the moat (to see if they reincarnate) 18:56 dropped 4 of them into the moat 18:56 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Con Vam Fem Cha), 89 points, T:475, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 18:56 <@Umby the Tired> !ping 18:56 @Umby the Tired: Pong! 18:56 <@Umby the Tired> Oh goddamnit 18:56 <@Umby the Tired> @mtf 18:57 <{Demo}4> i spent the first 25k turns altar scumming or something like that 18:57 <{Demo}4> it was fruitful as hell 18:57 <@mtf> dude wtf... 18:58 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 18:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:59 <@Umby the Tired> You feel that the IRCBot is ignoring you. 19:00 heh 19:00 <@mtf> hmmm 19:00 HMMM 19:00 @mtf you see this? 19:00 <@mtf> https://pastebin.com/hWTcNKi2 19:00 <@mtf> I do k2 xD 19:00 \o/ 19:00 <@mtf> but it looks like I'm getting registration errors again 19:00 <@mtf> wtf is karatkievich.freenode.net 19:01 <@mtf> didn't we use another before 19:02 <@mtf> !ping 19:02 @mtf: Pong! 19:03 @mtf unless you specify a server, freenode will randomly assign you a server to connect to 19:03 <@mtf> ah I see 19:03 <@mtf> well why is it still upset about the bots IRC account... 19:03 <@mtf> does registration expire or something? 19:04 for beholder bot, the main one connects to us.freenode.net (and then it's randomly connected to a server in the US) 19:04 same for eu and au beholder (those run behind the scenes) 19:04 <@mtf> hmm 19:04 <@mtf> maybe I can specify 19:04 <{Demo}4> yikes, got pranked out by a boojum 19:05 eating those gives some disint res by the way 19:05 <@mtf> looks like my config has chat.us.freenode.net specified 19:05 <@Umby the Tired> was gonna say about the cathedral, damage doesn't seem as extensive as it could've been 19:05 <@mtf> should that just be us.freenode.net instead? 19:06 <@Umby the Tired> which, thank goodness at least 19:06 @mtf yeah i'd stick with that 19:06 chat.us 19:06 <@mtf> ah ok 19:06 <@mtf> hmmm 19:06 <@mtf> well I had these issue before, then I enabled SASL 19:07 <@mtf> I thought that was supposed to stop these "You have not registered" errors 19:08 @Umby the Tired i havent checked news about notre dame recently, so the damage isnt as bad then? 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:33237 19:16 Aside from the spire and the roof, the structure appears more or less intact 19:16 i just read, all of the interior woodwork is gone 19:16 but yeah there's enough left intact, they can rebuild 19:16 I think Macon said they would 19:17 but damn... some of that woodwork dated back to the 1100's 19:18 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Bar Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of picaresquieu, the former Dresser, on T:3369 19:19 <{Demo}4> is a priest healer a cross dresser? 19:26 <@Umby the Tired> :GWmemetownLULLLLLLLLLLL: 19:26 Sunsword doesn't seem to be that bad - maybe I won't dip of Ex 19:26 won't dip for Excal 19:26 <@Umby the Tired> I'd still go for Excal if it were me tbh 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13203 19:33 <@luxidream> sunsword sucks 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bugpowder (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:2080 19:33 -!- unhold has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:38 <{Demo}4> sucksword 19:41 rofl - I've been bullied into dipping for Ex ;^) 19:41 you guys are a riot 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:40802 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40804 19:47 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:33517 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 118 points, T:348, killed by a gnome mummy 19:54 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an Olog-hai, on T:34086 20:04 crapola - polytrap - lost +4 robe 20:05 excalibur auto-searching drain resistance. that's all i'm sayin 20:05 yeah 20:05 hehe, omw to dipping - just stopped by LH to get teleportation 20:05 luckily, I have a spare robe in the stash 20:07 I think Olog-hai must be resistant to teleportitis - I at 4 @ 50% each without getting it 8^P 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:34233 20:09 <@luxidream> aww 20:09 <@luxidream> no watery tart? 20:09 rofl 20:10 @luxidream it rotes now 20:10 rotates 20:10 5 random msgs 20:10 <@luxidream> oh cool 20:10 this Olog-hai's kinda sneaky - it bites sometimes (gotta watch out for c) 20:10 all from the holy grail hah 20:10 <@luxidream> 👍 20:10 watery tart is still in 20:10 now it has 4 cousins 20:10 !who 20:10 K2: [hdf-us] sflicht [dnh] hothraxxa [evil] rebatela [nh362] oh6 [nh362] Bugpowder [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] post163 [slex] saxonysam [un] picaresquieu [un] | [hdf-eu] HotSauce [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 20:11 hothraxxa can i get you to save your evilhack game real quikc? applying another significant patch 20:11 quick 20:14 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:16 x - a dragonhide mummy wrapping. 20:16 sure 20:16 it took me a while before i even got the monty python ref w/ excalibur lol (i'm a little slow) 20:16 hothraxxa thanks 20:16 almost done 20:17 EvilHack updated (all servers) 20:17 ^ random vault room edits 20:17 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/782be9931d51e4ae25ed59c518fba0b703706ad3 20:18 <{Demo}4> is this gonna break everything? 20:18 no 20:18 <{Demo}4> oh good 20:18 it does not break saves 20:18 <{Demo}4> but just in general 20:18 it shouldnt 20:19 when will you continue again {Demo}4? 20:19 <{Demo}4> probably not tonight 20:19 aww 20:19 you're on track for 1st asc 20:19 potentially ;) 20:19 <{Demo}4> i might retreat fully 20:19 <{Demo}4> really wanted to make it to demo before i took the tele train out of there 20:19 <{Demo}4> but theres too many purple Ls spawning 20:20 any wishes left? 20:20 <{Demo}4> no 20:20 <{Demo}4> i want one for a dragon hat 20:20 next wish, get a marker 20:20 <{Demo}4> i have a marker 20:20 ok 20:23 <{Demo}4> ok time to altar scum 20:23 ;) 20:23 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 20037 points, T:5931, killed by a minotaur 20:24 <{Demo}4> oh hmm i do have geno Id what do you know 20:24 <{Demo}4> this uncomplicates a step 20:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:61779 20:24 you'll prob need a 2nd one 20:24 <{Demo}4> uh what the hell 20:24 depending on how that went 20:24 <{Demo}4> ur mean 20:24 <{Demo}4> but i got lucky 20:24 :P 20:24 <{Demo}4> took out master and arch liches 20:25 it leans towards the highest level ones 20:25 but not always 20:25 <{Demo}4> if i try again will it take out the other two? 20:25 yes definitely 20:25 hmmm the orc mine's end 20:25 <{Demo}4> is it maximum 2? 20:26 wooo nice hothraxxa 20:26 you got the new mines end map 20:26 demo yeah 20:26 i've had this in xnh and fourk 20:26 yup 20:26 oh xnh? 20:26 i didnt think aosdict added this one 20:26 yes 20:26 i pulled it from dnethack 20:27 only thing from dnh i pulled 20:27 this one is edited slightly 20:27 i think he did, unless my memory is playing tricks 20:28 <{Demo}4> k2 you do realize that this is actually a buff? 20:28 <{Demo}4> in some ways 20:28 hothraxxa: nope aosdict added the gnomish swamp to mines end 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:61898 20:28 {Demo}4 the new genocide behavior? 20:28 <{Demo}4> no, dont give me gifts, bad 20:29 <{Demo}4> yeah 20:29 <{Demo}4> very useful for V 20:29 <{Demo}4> if you get lucky and take out vamp lord and mage 20:29 oh, ok i knew it was something from fourk 20:29 <{Demo}4> then all you get is weak vampires 20:29 <{Demo}4> instead of random repalcements 20:29 ahh 20:29 well... there ya go 20:29 <{Demo}4> that could be mean dragons or something 20:38 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Dra Elf Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (dwarf), on T:714 20:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Ana Dwa Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11338 20:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) had a knife entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:62901 20:50 <{Demo}4> dickbag 20:52 k2: i have the placing monster over another bug at mine's end and there are no zombies here 20:52 also i've never had amnesia so that's not a factor either 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:35934 21:00 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:06 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18364 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:22398 21:11 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 2230 points, T:3931, inhumed by a brown mold warrior 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:63960 21:14 <{Demo}4> bad bad bad bad go away 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Cha) had a copper long sword entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:64038 21:15 <{Demo}4> i said no 21:15 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Bin Hum Mal Non), 147 points, T:193, killed by a jackal 21:15 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 21:17 dammit blessed the wrong gray stone :( 21:17 anyone want a blessed flint stone? going cheap 21:18 <{Demo}4> monster generation rate seems super high 21:18 haha wait until you start the ascension run 21:19 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:28625 21:19 <{Demo}4> does evilhack make it more turbo? 21:19 <{Demo}4> or is this normal for this far in? 21:20 i don't know i haven't been that far 21:20 <{Demo}4> this feels weird 21:20 haven't you played spork? 21:21 <{Demo}4> never made it to turn 50k in spork 21:23 i don't think k2 has messed with monster generation frequency. spork is insane and that is a part of the reason i don't like to play it 21:23 <{Demo}4> you dont think he implemented sporks monster generation changes? 21:24 i think he used whatever spork uses 21:24 i did for endgame yeah 21:24 ask him 21:24 no mysterious force 21:24 but the trip up with the amulet will be fun 21:24 right and crazy stairs 21:25 also 21:25 <{Demo}4> this isnt endgame 21:25 my normal run involves almost no combat. can't do that in spork 21:25 <{Demo}4> its turn 64k and monster spawn is turbo 21:25 <{Demo}4> not stair oriented 21:25 if you fiddle fuck around and waste turns, monster generation starts to creep up 21:25 lol turn 64k 21:25 <{Demo}4> any idea when it caps? 21:25 yeah 21:25 around 70k 21:25 <{Demo}4> this is too much lol 21:26 you might as well be on the ascrun now 21:26 <{Demo}4> no im dlvl 2 bashing rats 21:27 just go and face demo already 21:27 <{Demo}4> not prepared 21:27 what do you have to do? 21:28 hothraxxa: the monster placing error msg doesnt have to do with amnesia 21:28 or zombies apparently 21:28 prob related to monster riding another monster, or a dead monster reviving 21:28 ah. lots of riders here 21:28 <{Demo}4> i need free action and a lot more hp 21:28 whats your hp? 21:29 <{Demo}4> 153 21:29 ok i would definitely want free action 21:29 because the 1-2 is paralysis-silver damage 21:30 and more hp 21:30 MOAR 21:30 <{Demo}4> i think im gonna use frostbrand on him 21:30 i don't think he laid a hit on me last time 21:30 frostbrand is good, he doesn't like cold 21:31 dirge would be good too 21:31 acid == bad 21:32 <{Demo}4> yeah the plan is dirge/frost 21:32 i'm guessing demogorgon is stoning resistant? (he's not in vanilla) 21:32 <{Demo}4> hes not 21:32 <{Demo}4> lol 21:32 but 21:32 BUT 21:32 spellcasting types like demo can cast stone to flesh on themselves 21:32 lol 21:33 it can buy you a turn, maybe two 21:33 gotcha 21:33 slow stoning is a thing for monsters just like the player 21:33 they often have potions of acid too 21:34 hothraxxa did you say earlier that you feel alright with the way zombies are now 21:37 i did 21:37 they're a nuisance but they're not out of control 21:38 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:39 hey this balrog figurine is cursed 21:39 yup 21:40 no freebies 21:40 i odered for blessed 21:40 argh 21:40 i ordered blessed 21:40 this aint burger king 21:40 the service here sucks 21:40 :) 21:41 i think there's been a co-aligned unicorn on every level below minetown 21:41 now that i've blessed the correct gray stone, i shall get me some luck 21:41 damn - lost my robe somehow in VoD I think - gonna have to kill a priest now 8^P 21:42 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 21:44 [hdf-us] [4k] frea (zor) (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 10740 points, T:1594, killed by a soldier ant 21:45 if I don't have 21:45 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:45 if I don't have MR, could a disintegration breath from a black D take out a robe? 21:46 I had reflection, though... ...hmm... 8^P 21:46 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/567526390048489472/Capture_2019-04-15-21-47-08.png 21:47 <@Umby the Tired> ^submitting to quote DB, just aharing the image for others' amusement 21:47 <@Umby the Tired> well I MIGHT submit but hm 21:49 hah 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 759 points, T:2397, killed by a giant ant, while praying 21:52 <@Umby the Tired> !gt a 21:52 <@Umby the Tired> Christ, what was it 21:52 <@Umby the Tired> Also probably won't work on this end lmao 21:54 !gt isnt a function in this channel 21:54 just the nethack channel 21:55 <{Demo}4> !gt lol u just died hahaha 21:55 i almost did nethack 21:55 that pages just about everyone on discord side 21:56 <{Demo}4> i dont thing # do that, just @ 21:58 <{Demo}4> at this point my strategy is to horde extra healing potions cause they r smoky 21:58 good call 21:58 <{Demo}4> and to pick them off of monsters with the turbo slamming speed monster generation 21:59 <{Demo}4> im not sure what to do about trying to navigate through hell with monster generation this fast 21:59 <{Demo}4> might just blow a good bit of my marker on genociding shit i dont like 21:59 be careful 21:59 <{Demo}4> eh? 21:59 too many genocides, wind up with archon storm in the planes 21:59 and you're chaotic 21:59 <{Demo}4> thats invevitable 22:00 <{Demo}4> with the monster generation rate 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 robe", on T:37759 22:00 how many beholders have you come across 22:00 <@Umby the Tired> Archon storms only happen because they replace shit what got genocided 22:00 <{Demo}4> a big way to prevent that is to geno anything that can summon that you can geno 22:00 <{Demo}4> none yet 22:00 <{Demo}4> a few magical eyes 22:02 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Car Hum Mal Cha), 106 points, T:284, sent to the grave by a goblin 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:37766 22:05 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Gul Nbn Neu), 106 points, T:505, sent to the grave by a sewer rat 22:06 wooot! i figured out the ghost bones killing livelog bit 22:06 i can re-enable it, no more regular ghost spam 22:06 <{Demo}4> nice 22:07 later on i want to expand that to cover mummies, zombies and spectres that aride from a player death 22:07 arise 22:07 but for now ghosts will do 22:08 eraserhead97: I happen to like sunsword. I got it as a priest once and cleaned out the quest graveyard lickedysplit 22:09 <@Umby the Tired> Sunsword is designed for that more or less since it ruins undead 22:09 bouquet: yeah - it didn't feel that bad (but I hadn't gotten down to VoD/G yet) - if I hadn't gotten a magic lamp, I might've stayed with it, just to see how it'd go 22:10 i like sunsword also 22:10 and its even more bad ass in evilhack 22:10 if you hate zombies, sunsword is for you 22:10 how did u buff it up some more in evil? 22:10 <{Demo}4> it makes zombies not come back to life 22:10 if wielding sunsword, zombie corpses burn up and disappear 22:10 no revival 22:10 <@Umby the Tired> It's viable, just more for specialized stuff 22:11 nice 22:11 and its silver 22:11 even better! 22:11 <@Umby the Tired> And by VoD you might've kitted more damaging weapon combo together 22:11 !who 22:11 K2: [hdf-us] sflicht [dnh] Leggman [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] picaresquieu [un] bouquet [un] zor [spl] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:12 well, I'm running a monk, so no dual-wield - almost anything is better than no-weapon combat after midgame 22:12 <{Demo}4> can i make a silver weapon into excal? 22:12 that'd be brutal 22:12 no 22:13 <{Demo}4> can i make a gold weapon into excal? 22:13 <@Umby the Tired> probably no 22:13 <{Demo}4> lol 22:13 <@Umby the Tired> also no, you can't make horseradish into excal either 22:15 <{Demo}4> worth a try 22:15 damn - u read my mind on that horseradish! 22:17 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 830 points, T:1237, killed by a wand 22:20 oops - I buffed the shuriken too early - iirc, there's lotso them in the Monk quest... 22:21 doh - never got this b4: "You have an eerie feeling... A ghost appears next to you. You are frightened to death, and unable to move. You regain your composure." 22:21 on entering QL room 22:25 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 576 points, T:937, killed by a dagger 22:27 -!- bobbyd has joined #hardfought 22:29 EvilHack updated (all servers) 22:29 ^ killing players ghost from bones livelogging correctly 22:31 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 653 points, T:723, killed by a gnome lord 22:34 -!- bobbyd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:38951 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 608 points, T:1226, killed by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38953 22:37 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Dro Nbn Cha), 510 points, T:803, offed by a gnome, while reading a book 22:41 <@Umby the Tired> should've shared the book with him 22:48 is Kaen human? 22:52 <@Umby the Tired> Yes 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 612 points, T:1191, killed by a manes 22:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Pir Dro Mal Neu), 378 points, T:980, killed by a coyote 22:58 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:39550 23:13 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3739 points, T:2760, killed by a gnome lord 23:14 picaresquieu: your bones from aphrodite is brutal. She's wearing your amulet of reflection :( 23:16 when lvl-teleporting down, do I need to stop at VotD or can I go all the way down to G in one shot? 23:17 the rules are confusing - I think going up, I can do one shot, but going down, I need to stop at VotD, right? 23:18 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 114 points, T:486, killed by a small mimic 23:25 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:31 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Bar Vam Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:8325 23:32 finally! 23:32 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of zor, the former Conjurer, on T:1303 23:36 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2573 points, T:1710, killed by a giant spider 23:50 <@riker> !tell LarienTelrunya line 5564 in tech.c and 4439 in spell.c in the slex codebase say 'targetted' when it should say 'targeted'. have this super pointless thing I just noticed. apparently tt is a possible variant but not common, i'd argue it qualifies as a misspelling but hey slex is a bundly and unique™ variant 23:50 Will do, @riker!