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00:07 <K2> It smells sort of fleecy in here.
00:07 <K2> \o/
00:07 <K2> lol
00:13 <Tangles_> haha
00:14 <K2> ^ hallu msg from a trap in evilhack
00:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Pir Inf Mal Cha), 1514 points, T:4769, killed by a silver orcish arrow
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00:18 <{Demo}3> all sorts of bundled
00:35 <attie> Tangles_: they even roll up in the same way!
00:37 <attie> speaking of fax machines, I had a moment of enlightenment the other day when I saw "facsimile paper" in the store. Never even thought about where the name came from!
00:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 241 points, T:1099, killed by a coyote, while sleeping
00:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Asturias (Val Hum Fem Law), 7692 points, T:243, quit
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01:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2
01:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1888 points, T:1934, killed by a black unicorn
01:14 <rld> <@Umby the Tired> when you read up on another nethack server and saw someone died to Famine with the Amulet on them
01:14 <rld> <@Umby the Tired> :GWvictoriaNotLikeBlob:
01:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:45018
01:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed for the first time, on T:4580
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01:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2629
01:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 496 points, T:6746, killed by a paper golem
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01:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:45372
01:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:45378
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02:25 <raisse> if that left bones someone's lucky, I dropped my BoH to fight
02:25 <raisse> but I was out of Pw and wand charges
02:39 <raisse> What do you want to eat? [eKO or ?*] ?
02:39 <raisse> yes, I would :-)
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03:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:52202
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07:40 <Tangles_> Ugh my splice game crashed :(
07:47 <Grasshopper> Tangles_, splice it together again?
07:51 <Tangles_> not helping
07:51 <stennowork> how did it crash?
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07:54 <Tangles_> THere was some impossible() message about it placing one monster on another when I saved, which has happened before, now it doesn't load.  It says someting about failing to uncompress the save, then next time I try it, it goes to the new game screen (which is on the new version, because the .gz for the save no longer exisits - because it DID actually uncompress)
07:54 <stennowork> oh oof
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07:57 <Tangles_> Hmm I can start it by running the chroot command from the CLI.
07:57 <K2> splice issues again
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07:58 <Tangles_> Restoring save file...   placing monster over another?  Program in disorder! Hello Tangles, the male infernal Rogue, welcome back to SpliceHack!
07:58 <Tangles_> I guess save this and try again from dgl :/
07:59 <Tangles_> While saving I get: placing monster over another?  Program in disorder!  (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.)
07:59 <Tangles_> --More--
07:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:47334
08:00 <K2> damn
08:00 <Tangles_> Yeah that seemed to work.
08:00 <K2> i've been in contact with antigulp, she's aware of whats going on. she's just having a hard time finding the time to do anything about it
08:01 <Tangles_> Yeah no worries. THis might also be curses related.
08:02 <K2> damn you Real Life™
08:03 * raisse points at you, then curses.
08:03 <raisse> er, that was addressed to Real Life™
08:03 <K2> :)
08:04 <K2> i was about to say, 'take a number'
08:06 <Tangles_> Ok I know the problem.
08:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayer, on T:47381
08:07 <Tangles_> Well, part of the problem... First this happens: 1547725164 (name removed): impossible placing monster over another?
08:08 <Tangles_> that's just splicehack doing its thing... but if you try to restore a game using curses, then this happens: 1547725164 (name removed): panic impossible called impossible
08:09 <raisse> "impossible called impossible" lol
08:09 <K2> splice question (unrelated) when you play, do you get rivers randomly on regular dungeon maps?
08:09 <Tangles_> Not that I remember.
08:09 <Tangles_> dnethack has watery levels though.
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08:09 <raisse> I do remember rivers in junethack
08:10 <raisse> but yes, that was probably dnh, I played rather a lot of that for unique deaths
08:10 <K2> i ask because of this commit - https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/commit/4e3ece4bfa16bd59243e79fcb2fcce3329429d62 - but i wonder if antigulp removed it since then
08:10 <K2> ^ but this isnt important, just me wondering about things
08:11 <Tangles_> hmm so I need to stop impossible() from calling impossible() in the curses windowport.
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08:12 <Tangles_> K2: do you still have a branch for splicehack 0.6.1?
08:13 <K2> i should yeah
08:13 <Tangles_> Because I'll need to patch against that.
08:14 <K2> splicehack 0.6.0 to 0.6.2 is on the server
08:14 <K2> github branch, i think i just maintain current, but its easy enough to clone from a specific point in time i guess
08:14 <K2> yeah just latest and greatest
08:16 <K2> hmm look at this - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/f52e9865f283378359191d5ea186206d60129921
08:16 <K2> ^ vanilla 3.6.2 from april 6th
08:17 * K2 is about to update 362-hdf
08:19 <raisse> I'm not logged in and I suppose it won't break save
08:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:47525
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08:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:47913
09:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:48120
09:05 <K2> !who
09:05 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Hill [nh362] gatherer [nh362] Grouchy [nh362] | [hdf-eu] bubbles [dnh] janekw [nh362] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players
09:05 <stennowork> OT: we are establishing a javascript codegolf channel ##jsgolf
09:08 <LarienTelrunya> Evil Patch idea: if you dip a potion into something and get an "Interesting..." message, the potion is also used up even though nothing happened.
09:08 <Andrio> Interesting...
09:08 <stennowork> to be fair, that wouldn't be that evil
09:08 <stennowork> i kinda see it as a rule hole atm that the potion is not used up
09:09 <LarienTelrunya> yeah, makes it kinda trivial to test for e.g. sickness
09:10 <Andrio> Technically that's dipping things into potions, not dipping potions into other potions.
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09:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:31680
09:26 <hothraxxa> tangles: i just cleared splice votd last night and i had the same experience, at least 10 wraith corpses. i doubt this is intended
09:29 <hothraxxa> !tell antigulp at least 10 wraiths in the votd left corpses. is this intended?
09:29 <Beholder> I'm on it, hothraxxa.
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09:36 <hothraxxa> reading back: so evilhack doors will be like grunt and xnh. thanks k2, i love checking every door three times for traps
09:36 <K2> :)
09:36 <LarienTelrunya> Evil Patch idea for evilhack: make it so that some door traps are just plain unfindable regardless of the amount of searching you do :P
09:37 <hothraxxa> did you add electric traps a la xnh? because exploding rings is always a treat
09:38 <hothraxxa> splice wards do the same thing and are even more evil because they can be anywhere
09:38 <{Demo}3> hmm today is suspiciously warm....
09:38 <{Demo}3> high of 81, i dont trust it
09:38 <LarienTelrunya> wards? what do those do? when I played splice those probably didn't exist yet
09:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Pir Inf Mal Cha), 1774 points, T:3667, killed by a jaguar
09:42 <{Demo}3> i have a big figuring that they dont work like dnh
09:43 <{Demo}3> im curious if they innovate the ward game in such a way ndnh might wanna steal some ideas from them
09:43 <{Demo}3> somebody investigate splice wards and report :P
09:46 <K2> hothraxxa i did not import electric door traps from xnh
09:47 <K2> in fact i prob wont import any xnh traps - aosdict did a complete trap refactor
09:47 * LarienTelrunya suddenly gets the idea of making a variant of evilhack that implements all the *really* evil stuff that evilhack didn't implement :P
09:47 <K2> dont feel like doing that much work for just one or two extra traps
09:50 <hothraxxa> bah. you are not evil
09:51 <stennowork> is evilhack eviller than spork?
09:51 <stennowork> because spork is already pretty evil
09:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 438 points, T:2180, killed by a wand
09:52 <K2> stennowork: perhaps
09:53 <K2> it's combining a lot of sporkhack and grunthack stuff
09:53 <stennowork> gotcha
09:53 <K2> so the potential is there
09:53 <stennowork> grunt zombies i assume?
09:53 <K2> yup
09:53 <K2> that was one of the first things i added
09:53 <stennowork> and the 7-times kill for astral call?
09:53 <K2> ?
09:54 <stennowork> er you get killed 7 times in a row when you try to attempt astral call
09:54 <stennowork> grunts way of 'fixing' this problem
09:54 <K2> oh
09:54 <K2> no
09:54 <stennowork> oh its probably based on 3.6.1 where astral call is already fixed
09:54 <K2> yup
09:54 <stennowork> right right
09:55 <K2> that reminds me... in gh if you eat a zombie corpse, you start to turn into one. i need to add that
09:56 <hothraxxa> what? zombie corpses are so yummy
09:56 <K2> yuk
09:56 <hothraxxa> deathly ill not evil enough eh
09:56 <K2> in 3.6.x you can sometimes eat a zombie corpse and be ok
09:56 <LarienTelrunya> K2: does it also have the grunthack effect where eating a tainted corpse still takes the full amount of turns? because I died that way from a giant zombie corpse in grunt once
09:57 <K2> LarienTelrunya: i havent changed any 3.6.x eating tainted corpse behavior
09:57 <K2> yet
09:57 <LarienTelrunya> i.e. try to eat it, "Ulch - that meat was tainted! You feel deathly sick. (20-something turns later) You die from your illness." with no way of stopping it
09:57 <K2> then dont eat giant xombie corpses
09:57 <K2> zombie
09:58 <K2> tin it
09:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:1537
10:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:61613
10:00 <{Demo}3> that's dumb
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10:07 <bhaak> hothraxxa: a design choice of not having an advantage due to timezones or physical location close to a public server
10:09 <bhaak> hothraxxa: there is only a handful of people that even qualify for the speedrun stuff and those would also be the likely winner for the "first ascension" trophies. although that has somewhat changed considering the insane number of variants that are being kept on life support by unnamed admins
10:10 <K2> o/
10:11 <K2> grunthack and sporkhack are now basically just bugfixes. i'm pretty much done adding anything ew to those
10:11 <K2> because evilhack
10:11 <K2> *new
10:11 <K2> sporkhack was just QoL and bugfixes anyways
10:12 <K2> amy and chris need to get with the program and port their variants over to 3.6.x
10:12 <K2> :P
10:12 <K2> speaking of which... unnethack 6 when?
10:12 <stennowork> have fun porting slex to 3.6
10:12 <LarienTelrunya> playing 3.6 is already about as fun as taking a hydrochloric acid bath, but PORTING slex to it???
10:13 <K2> stennowork: you mean 'amy, have fun porting slex to 3.6'
10:13 <stennowork> yes
10:13 <bhaak> K2: depends on when bitcoin reaches 1 million
10:13 <stennowork> bitcoin is on the rise agian
10:14 <K2> bhaak: its up lately
10:14 <stennowork> from 3.5k to 4.7k in a few days
10:14 * bhaak ...oooOOO(that'll give me some time and likely will never happen)
10:14 <K2> LarienTelrunya: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c0daba931051d58acc6b9d3c799a9730d8b7d962 - search for 'Amy'
10:14 <bhaak> that's only a pump
10:14 <K2> the next halving is next year
10:14 <K2> watch what happens
10:14 <paxed> really, hydrochloric acid bath? those must be a slex thing.
10:15 <LarienTelrunya> K2: lol? usually I don't use the adjective "fleecy" to describe a smell
10:16 <K2> i know
10:16 <K2> its why i added it
10:16 <K2> hallu msg
10:16 <LarienTelrunya> paxed: hi! you made dgamelaunch, right? what could be the cause if dgamelaunch crashes with exit code 77 upon trying to open the watch menu? is it a config problem, library problem or something else?
10:16 <K2> \o/
10:16 <K2> dtype made dgamelaunch
10:16 <LarienTelrunya> oh I see
10:17 <{Demo}3> they both arbitrarily start with d
10:17 <K2> d = paxed. i get it
10:17 <stennowork> daxep works as well as paxed
10:17 <paxed> LarienTelrunya: dgl error codes are documented in the README
10:19 <K2> paxed: last night I added your magic beam trap from sporkhack to the variant i'm working on
10:19 <K2> beams for everyone
10:19 <LarienTelrunya> paxed: yeah but all it says is it's a "sem_wait()" error, whatever that means... what is a sem_wait error?
10:19 <K2> i may play with it a bit, add disintegration as a possibility
10:20 <stennowork> K2, that is a not good possibility
10:20 <K2> hi. evilhack
10:20 <K2> evil
10:20 <LarienTelrunya> K2: do eeet, I already did in slex and no one complained about it yet *bundlebundlebundle* ♥
10:20 <{Demo}3> is using yy.mm.dd as a naming convention for nethack versions gonna break things?
10:22 <stennowork> xlog would be the only thing affected by it, right?
10:22 <stennowork> hopefully nethack doesn't use The Microsoft Way of Checking Versions
10:23 <bhaak> you will have problems when your variant is older than 100 years
10:23 * bhaak teaches you to think for the long run
10:24 <{Demo}3> yeah but I'll be dead by 2118 cause I started at 18.mm.dd
10:24 <stennowork> oh nethack will totally break in year 2038 btw
10:24 <stennowork> on 32bit systems
10:24 <paxed> LarienTelrunya: sem_xxx are semaphore calls, needed so only one dgl process accesses the shared memory at a time.
10:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33037
10:25 <LarienTelrunya> paxed: okay, but how are errors with them caused? maybe you encountered a sem_wait error so you'd know how to avoid it? that would be useful because right now trying to watch on the esm server throws that error
10:26 <paxed> LarienTelrunya: i can't recall offhand. you could take a look at the source yourself ...
10:28 <LarienTelrunya> if (sem_wait(&(shm_dg_data->dg_sem)) == -1) { 	debug_write("sem_wait"); 	graceful_exit(77); }
10:28 <LarienTelrunya> that's probably what happens
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10:32 <bhaak> {Demo}3: as a programmer, I totally hate those people that don't solve bugs right now and instead kick the can down the street
10:33 <stennowork> bhaak, it's called 'ergebnisorientiertes arbeiten' 
10:33 <bhaak> stennowork: das Ergebnis ist "mehr Fehler" :-)
10:33 <stennowork> wahr
10:37 <{Demo}3> fair point I guess next ndnh version will be 2019.04.xx
10:38 <stennowork> are you using dots as seperators to be version-like?
10:38 <hothraxxa> bhaak: makes sense to me, thanks for the reply
10:39 <{Demo}3> yes is that bad?
10:39 <hothraxxa> epi: on 4/20, anyone who starts a game gets stoned
10:39 <stennowork> {Demo}3, nope
10:40 <stennowork> well the bad thing would be that it wouldn't be a ISO 8601-valid date but that's more or less irrelevant
10:42 <bhaak> yeah and at least it's the right order
10:42 <stennowork> yes it's lexically sortable and thats the important thing
10:42 <{Demo}3> smallest to biggest makes alphabetical order work
10:42 <{Demo}3> yeah
10:43 <{Demo}3> wait no its biggest to smallest but the idea originally was it wouldn't be dumb when sorted alphabetically
10:44 <hothraxxa> demo: any date format other than iso 8601 is for idiots and americans
10:45 <{Demo}3> I disagree
10:45 <hothraxxa> feel free
10:46 <{Demo}3> if I'm looking at something informal usually that I wanna know when it was and it was within the year (as most relevant things are sometimes sort of) the first thing I wanna know is the month
10:46 <{Demo}3> or like better example, dates for upcoming events
10:46 <LarienTelrunya> the one true date format is dd.mm.yyyy :P
10:47 <{Demo}3> I like ydmy.yy.md, obfuscated date format
10:47 <stennowork> {Demo}3, the only problem would be that you'd have to wait a day for releasing a hotfix
10:48 <stennowork> if you still want to be semver-y
10:48 <rld> <@Umby the Tired> Hi
10:48 <Beholder> Hello @Umby the Tired, Welcome to #hardfought
10:48 <{Demo}3> nah the way the versions work is they are rolling
10:48 <{Demo}3> but they started their roll on that date
10:49 <{Demo}3> usually only get bug fixes rolled in and new shit goes to a non release branch
10:50 <stennowork> it would probably be relevant for junethack 
10:51 <stennowork> hm or not, idk
10:51 <{Demo}3> I still wanna try to get an effort to try to get ndnh into jnh this year but I need to do a few things first before I start that like wrap up current version and get a release
10:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5337
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11:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:33054
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11:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:33200
11:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1199 points, T:2090, killed by a pony
11:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 177 points, T:721, killed by a small mimic
11:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33321
11:38 <bhaak> hothraxxa: btw, I almost missed your question. if I don't reply, anybody can just poke me again. I will tell if I don't want to answer. I don't ghost people :-)
11:38 <bhaak> at least not intentionally. I tend to forgot to do stuff.
11:39 <hothraxxa> np. it wasn't important enough for !tell
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11:41 <bhaak> if there are lots of tell's, the messages get overlooked more easily :)
11:47 <rld> <@Umby the Tired> so what is !tell exactly
11:49 <LarienTelrunya> it leaves a message for someone and then, when that person talks the next time, they receive the message
11:50 <rld> <@bhaak> !tell bhaak your variant sucks!
11:50 <Beholder> Will do, @bhaak!
11:50 <bhaak> hi there
11:50 <Beholder> bhaak: Message from @bhaak at 2019-04-08 11:50 EDT: your variant sucks!
11:50 <bhaak> self flagellation should work, too
11:50 <bhaak> !tell bhaak you suck!
11:50 <Beholder> Will do, bhaak!
11:51 <bhaak> hi there
11:51 <Beholder> bhaak: Message from bhaak at 2019-04-08 11:50 EDT: you suck!
11:51 <bhaak> :-(
11:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 703 points, T:2088, killed by a rothe
11:53 <rld> <@Umby the Tired> lul
11:53 <rld> <@Umby the Tired> Thank you
11:54 <LarienTelrunya> !tell LarienTelrunya thank you for making slex, it's the best variant ever! ♥
11:54 <Beholder> Will do, LarienTelrunya!
11:55 <LarienTelrunya> (no, I'm not vain at all :P)
11:55 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-04-08 11:54 EDT: thank you for making slex, it's the best variant ever! ♥
11:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 21267 points, T:10422, slain by a crocodile
11:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:55761
12:04 <oh6> Couldn't load "asmodeus.lev" - making a maze.
12:05 <oh6> Program in disorder!  (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.)
12:05 <oh6> whaaat
12:05 <K2> blah
12:05 <K2> i just updated 362-hdf
12:05 <K2> as in 60 sec ago
12:05 <stennowork> i think your game is lost now?
12:05 <K2> no
12:05 <stennowork> or hm you can survive without asmo i guess
12:05 <K2> itjust made a maze instead
12:05 <stennowork> right
12:05 <stennowork> asmo will just not generate then
12:06 <K2> NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers)
12:06 <stennowork> hah
12:06 <oh6> yeah, I can't say I mind having to skip a no-teleport level with the longest walking path
12:06 <K2> !who
12:06 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] saxonysam [nh362] Hill [nh362] kincle [nh362] gatherer [nh362] hothraxxa [spl] | [hdf-eu] mightyquinn [nh362] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players
12:06 <K2> welp
12:06 <stennowork> new speedrun strat!
12:06 <K2> that's gonna affect a few ppl
12:06 <oh6> I saved and reloaded and it seemed OK
12:06 <K2> oh6: right it will
12:07 <oh6> OK, off to work
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12:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 12 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34354
12:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:34768
12:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8720 points, T:7025, quit
12:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9595
12:33 <LarienTelrunya> K2: wtf, you made actual rivers generate in the mines? IIRC in grunthack it was just single water tiles in seemingly random locations
12:33 * K2 wants to see the new excalibur livelog messages
12:33 <K2> LarienTelrunya: we mock what we don't understand
12:33 <K2> name the actor/movie
12:33 <LarienTelrunya> uhh sorry, I almost never watch any movies so I have no idea
12:34 <raisse> we should all play more valks?
12:34 <K2> Dan Aykroyd / Spies Like Us
12:34 <LarienTelrunya> yeah never heard of that before
12:34 <K2> raisse: wouldnt hurt hah
12:34 <K2> LarienTelrunya: awesome funny movie from the early/mid 80's
12:35 <LarienTelrunya> the last movie I watched was Oblivion with Tom Cruise, and that was 5 years ago or so
12:35 <stennowork> isn't dan aykroyd the blues brothers guy?
12:35 <K2> yes
12:36 <K2> him and joh belushi
12:36 <K2> john
12:36 <rld> <@luxidream> K2: if there are rivers in the mines, does that make it unplayable without levitation?
12:36 <K2> nope
12:36 <rld> <@luxidream> in grunt at least you can dig
12:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:34761
12:36 <K2> the river generation is random
12:36 <K2> sometimes it wont affect you at all, sometimes you'll need to get creative
12:36 <K2> just like grunthack
12:37 <K2> but this implementation is better imo, the river generation code is NOT from grunthack
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12:38 <rld> <@luxidream> so it's more like random water, and not a huge river like the lethe patch stuff?
12:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] k2 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 86 points, T:499, killed by a black pudding
12:39 <K2> @luxidream it varies
12:39 <K2> random
12:39 <K2> this isnt lethe patch code either
12:40 <K2> read - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3e85fb4aa4c8bb3f410bdfafd11ad75a40d94106
12:41 <LarienTelrunya> looks to me like L's rivers patch
12:42 * K2 shrugs
12:42 <K2> i havent seen L's river patch
12:42 <LarienTelrunya> what?! where did you get it from then?
12:42 <K2> maybe L took it from paxed
12:42 <rld> <@luxidream> is that where spl's river creation came from?
12:42 <K2> did you not read the commit?
12:42 <K2> @luxidream yes
12:43 <LarienTelrunya> hmm the commit says that a certain "Pasi Kallinen" wrote the patch... I think I heard that name before
12:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2149 points, T:6542, killed by a gnome king
12:46 <K2> LarienTelrunya: seriously
12:47 <K2> lol
12:47 <K2> sorry paxed you're not famous
12:47 <K2> LarienTelrunya doesn't have a clue who you are
12:48 <K2> if LarienTelrunya doesn't know you, might as well not exist ;)
12:48 <rld> <@luxidream> that just means she hasn't made fun of you in slex
12:48 <K2> hah
12:50 <rld> <@IceBox> i'm proud to say that i am in basically all variants of nethack
12:50 <K2> @IceBox!!!!
12:50 <K2> yes iceboxes for everyone heheh
12:50 <hothraxxa> i heard there's a selfie of pasi kallinen around where he's posing with an author
12:50 <rld> <@IceBox> yep, you may all begin your grovelling
12:51 <LarienTelrunya> K2: oh I see; most people I only know by their nickname
12:51 <K2> if you're not stocked with booze, please move along
12:51 <rld> <@Tone> The Ice Box?!
12:51 <rld> <@IceBox> yeah, send my your tired, your poor, your huddled masses and your corpses
12:51 <rld> <@IceBox> me*
12:51 <hothraxxa> there can be only one
12:52 <K2> Highlander - best movie EVER
12:52 <hothraxxa> oh wait, Viserion drops an empty ice box
12:52 <hothraxxa> i have a tame hundred handed one named viserion
12:53 <hothraxxa> he used to be a zombie red dragon but there was a polymorph accident
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13:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 562 points, T:1642, killed by a boulder
13:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "test", on T:3078
13:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed historic partly eaten fixed magic marker named prop. of blek le rat", on T:63380
13:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:10842
13:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:10843
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13:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 360 points, T:1150, killed by a gnome
13:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 677 points, T:869, killed by an orcish dagger
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14:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:12319
14:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 348 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:58110
14:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13261
14:18 <raisse> hothraxxa: lol
14:18 <raisse> that selfie was taken at worldcon in helsinki, I was there for some reason :-)
14:20 <paxed> raisse: we'll have to repeat it in Dublin, hm? :)
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14:20 <raisse> yes!
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14:21 <raisse> I may have been too late to tell them I want to do it, though
14:21 <raisse> the application form intimidated me so I don't remember if I actually sent in a definitive version
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14:21 <K2> save a pic for me paxed. i'll be there too
14:21 <raisse> tried to contact the organization but haven't got an answer yet
14:21 <paxed> K2: oh? nice
14:21 <K2> \o/
14:22 <raisse> we'll have to do it informally if it's not in the program, worked for the conlang meet in dublin too
14:22 <raisse> er, in helsnki
14:22 <paxed> raisse: hm. well, it doesn't have to be an official thing anyway
14:22 <K2> right
14:22 <raisse> I can actually spell "helsinki"
14:23 <paxed> i still need to figure out accommodation for the 4 days after the con
14:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Rog Orc Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a rothe corpse, on T:3508
14:28 <K2> i think stenno is gonna be there also
14:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] richards (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 2191 zorkmids of merchandise from the liquor emporium of Krnov on T:16378
14:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Malcanthet, on T:63813
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14:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:63990
14:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:16798
14:56 <{Demo}3> what is the most important level in nethack?
14:58 <{Demo}3> nevermind, what are the three most important levels in order of importance
14:59 <Muad> subjectively? castle, sanctum, astral maybe?
15:00 <Muad> each one changes the game
15:01 <hothraxxa> those are good choices
15:01 <{Demo}3> yeah just looking for opinions
15:01 <{Demo}3> vibe square lvl is sort of important?
15:01 <hothraxxa> i agree with muad
15:02 <hothraxxa> well if you go there, so is quest goal and top of vlad's and top of rodney's
15:03 <hothraxxa> still standing under muad's banner
15:05 <{Demo}3> I like that answer as well
15:05 <{Demo}3> just from previous example
15:05 <rld> <@luxidream> Minetown is important
15:06 <{Demo}3> variants that change those are annoying
15:07 <rld> <@luxidream> assuming we’re talking about vanilla ice nothing exists after castle
15:08 <rld> <@luxidream> vanilla*
15:08 <K2> {Demo}3 that's pretty much every variant
15:08 <rld> <@luxidream> so most important levels are castle, minetown, Medusa
15:09 <rld> <@luxidream> soko4 gets an honorable mention
15:09 <K2> starting level is in top 3. how to start off sets the tone for the entire game
15:09 <K2> *how you
15:09 <rld> <@luxidream> YANI: crawl ambush vaults
15:11 <K2> sokoban is quite a bit more important in evilhack than in other variants
15:12 <K2> because 1) magic markers will never randomly generate and no role starts with one and 2) there's a chance of a magic marker showing up as a sokoban end prize
15:13 <rld> <@luxidream> Ah
15:13 <rld> <@luxidream> The best feature of spork
15:13 <K2> you can still polypile/wish for them though
15:13 <K2> hmm... if an object is flagged as not randomly generated, will one pop up via polypiling?
15:13 <{Demo}3> fuck soko
15:14 <{Demo}3> no
15:14 <K2> alrighty then
15:14 <K2> wishes only then :P
15:14 <K2> and soko
15:14 <{Demo}3> u ever get a runesword polypiling?
15:14 <K2> not that i recall... i normally dont polypile weapons
15:15 <rld> <@luxidream> Nope
15:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:64424
15:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:4104
15:19 <hothraxxa> i polypile weapons in variants that have materials because silver weapons
15:19 <{Demo}3> katanas
15:19 <{Demo}3> +9 katanas
15:20 <hothraxxa> i polyed up a silver long sword for my xnh arc, then dual-wielded that with excalibur
15:20 <K2> Grasshopper usually spends the time and effort for a +9 excalibur
15:20 <hothraxxa> both only +6 but gehennom was a cakewalk
15:20 <hothraxxa> i know. nice if you have patience
15:21 <raisse> and enough raw material
15:21 <hothraxxa> once i get to +6, i stop worrying
15:21 <hothraxxa> the difference is not significant imo
15:22 <raisse> I inadvertently had the +9 Grayswandir once
15:22 <raisse> forgot to change weapons for enchanting my offhand weapon, not ONCE but TWICE
15:22 <hothraxxa> i got a ridiculously overenchanted weapon in some variant. i think it was fourk
15:23 <hothraxxa> i get you enjoyed the bibrations
15:23 <hothraxxa> er bet
15:23 <raisse> yes
15:23 <hothraxxa> vibrations
15:23 <hothraxxa> wow
15:23 <raisse> moar vibrations!
15:23 <hothraxxa> i cab't typ
15:23 <raisse> did you overindulge in something?
15:24 <hothraxxa> i'm wearing -11 gloves of mistyping named prop. of mavis beacon
15:24 <raisse> lol -11, no wonder you can't type
15:24 <raisse> mine are only -1
15:24 <raisse> makes me drop a vowel occasionally
15:26 <{Demo}3> mine are like at worst -127 at most -5
15:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 14538 points, T:4871, killed by a kobold, while praying
15:33 <jonadab> I think I have an intrinsic -3 typing penalty; at home I mostly compensate with a +2 keyboard.
15:42 <K2> LOL jonadab
15:42 <K2> link to +2 keyboard please kthx
15:42 <K2> lol hothraxxa
15:42 <K2> errrmahgerd
15:43 <jonadab> K2: https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Natural-Ergonomic-Keyboard-Business/dp/B004SUIM4E/
15:43 <jonadab> There are much better keyboards available, but they cost a lot more.
15:43 <{Demo}3> i would curse that keyboard out
15:43 <jonadab> This is, objectively, Microsoft's best product.
15:44 <raisse> I hate a palm rest on a full-sized keyboard
15:45 <raisse> also I don't like a keyboard with numpad, makes me type too much to one side and that fucks with my muscle memory
15:45 <K2> ergomonic keyboard/mouse is like my kryptonite
15:45 <jonadab> raisse: Does Microsoft make another product you like better?  I thought not.
15:45 <jonadab> (Though, they also make passable mice.)
15:46 <jonadab> The _best_ keyboard I've ever owned was an Avant Stellar.  That's at least +5.  But it costs real money.
15:46 <raisse> yes, we have a micorosoft mouse lying around somewhere which I use when I need a real mouse
15:46 <raisse> it's okay
15:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:19852
15:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) averted death, on T:3135
15:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 871 points, T:3141, killed by a giant ant
15:53 <K2> getting close to an evilhack release
15:53 <K2> maybe by this weekend?
15:53 * K2 knocks on wood
15:54 <{Demo}3> i think non beta actual ndnh release is gonna be tonight
15:55 <K2> NICE
15:55 <K2> congrats {Demo}3
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16:00 <K2> oh my... rofl
16:00 <K2> bhaak - see anything worth mentioning here? https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/commit/dee16d50744540f91f0a45fccc07094e1f46d304
16:01 <{Demo}3> it says paxed but its bhaak what
16:01 <K2> dingdingding
16:02 <K2> the extra castle levels were supposedly made by paxed, maybe antigulp was on a roll and copy/pasted title
16:02 <bhaak> hehe
16:02 <K2> :)
16:02 <K2> or maybe the mistake was initially made by Kered13
16:03 <K2> ah well
16:03 <K2> adding these to evilhack, going to credit hothraxxa
16:05 <{Demo}3> wait are they any good?
16:05 <LarienTelrunya> K2: also add dnethack's elder priest, and credit LarienTelrunya since he's her bane :P
16:05 <{Demo}3> oh yeah the minas tirith one is dope
16:05 <bhaak> I think the one with the frozen river works gret
16:05 <{Demo}3> these are both dope actually im surprised i havent stolen them yet
16:06 <bhaak> how is winterly fort ludios a dope?
16:06 <K2> not a dope
16:06 <K2> just 'dope'
16:06 <K2> slang for way cool
16:07 <{Demo}3> wait crap my tooled horn has an enchantment value what yikes
16:07 <bhaak> you yound cray cray people
16:08 <K2> supercray
16:08 <LarienTelrunya> hmm it seems that lately K2 and myself are the only ones doing serious work on their respective variants, but the two of us are both cranking out commits at a rather good pace :D
16:08 <{Demo}3> yikes i tried to (!rnd(10)) and got owned for it
16:09 <K2> !rn2(2) :P
16:09 <K2> ^ nerd joke
16:10 <stenno> lol K2 
16:11 <{Demo}3> "some food spills out of your Hunting Horn.  o - 2 straw tripe rations."
16:15 <rld> <@IceBox> hey folks, what do you call a jelly that's just not really that good at anything?
16:15 <rld> <@IceBox> mediochre jelly
16:16 <LarienTelrunya> yay a new slex monster, and for a relatively small team too! team jelly is one of the teams that want to become bigger :)
16:16 <{Demo}3> oh wow i found somewhere i forgot a period in some text
16:17 <rld> <@IceBox> EPI for slex: the mediochre jelly is actually the strongest jelly
16:17 <{Demo}3> what if a weapon that automatically magic whistled every time u hit an enemy with it? would that be cool or lame or dumb? you can turn it off if you want
16:18 <K2> its always something little like that
16:18 <K2> forgot a .
16:18 <K2> or put a , instead of ;
16:18 <LarienTelrunya> {Demo}3: it should also sometimes cursed-magic-whistle when cursed :D
16:18 <K2> team jelly
16:18 <{Demo}3> good idea
16:18 <K2> giant k-y jelly monster
16:19 <K2> greases everything it touches
16:19 <rld> <@IceBox> haha, make everything slip from your hands
16:19 <K2> hahah
16:19 <{Demo}3> hand greasing is a monster spell some demon lords have in dnh
16:19 <K2> heh
16:19 <{Demo}3> its mean and i hate it
16:20 <K2> i've been hand-greased! ok 10 min break
16:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:21244
16:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21247
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16:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:60978
16:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:60980
16:43 <{Demo}3> hmm seems my versioning scheme wont work oh well
16:46 <{Demo}3> oh hey, amy's delete save file on version mismatch confirmation works
16:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:22445
16:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:22445
16:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Ran Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a panther, on T:3661
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16:56 <{Demo}3> yey ndnh is official release
17:01 <stenno> woop woop
17:01 <stenno> congrats!
17:02 <stenno> still not on hardfought smh my head
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17:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 3283 points, T:6046, killed by an owlbear
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17:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 110 points, T:644, killed by a wand
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18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4212 points, T:3884, killed by a soldier ant
18:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Pir Gul Mal Cha), 23 points, T:133, killed by boiling potions
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18:52 <K2> HI
18:52 <Beholder> Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought
18:52 <K2> :)
18:53 <K2> stenno ndnh is going on hardfought
18:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Buer, on T:65461
18:53 <K2> it plus evilhack... gonna have to redesign the variants page dgl
18:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:65480
18:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:65482
18:57 <K2> [Demo] repo link?
18:58 <K2> or is it on the wiki
19:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4318 points, T:2272, killed by a psionic bolt
19:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law), 233 points, T:304, killed by a gnome, while sleeping off a magical draught
19:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:48510
19:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:48529
19:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Fla Dro Fem Cha), 28 points, T:106, killed by a kobold
19:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:48580
19:18 <K2> its been so long since i've compiled dnethack...
19:18 <K2> looks like ndnh is the same method
19:19 <K2> oh nice its working
19:20 <PavelB> is ndnh gonna be on hdf now?
19:20 <{Demo}3> yes it is the same
19:21 <K2> yeah
19:21 <K2> it compiled
19:21 <K2> lets install
19:21 <{Demo}3> ive tested it to make sure it works on dgl (at least the last version)
19:21 <K2> lots of compile errors/warning [Demo]
19:21 <{Demo}3> those r chris's fault
19:21 <{Demo}3> the shitload of warnings are cause its dnh
19:22 <K2> :)
19:22 <K2> is this based off of dnh 3.16.0 or .1
19:22 <{Demo}3> 3.15.1
19:22 <K2> oh snap
19:22 <K2> ok
19:22 <{Demo}3> mid roll
19:22 <{Demo}3> but merged a lot of shit from upstream
19:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:48678
19:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] firra (zor) (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 540 points, T:30, killed by a boulder
19:23 <{Demo}3> and got a lot of shit into dnh upstream (bug fixes) :P
19:23 <K2> alright its installed
19:23 <K2> just need to setup dgl
19:24 <K2> make take a quick min... kid stuff
19:24 <K2> *might
19:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] grok (zor) (Cav Gia Mal Cha), 4440 points, T:2003, killed by a force bolt
19:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 657 points, T:1393, killed by a small mimic
19:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Death, on T:48820
19:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine (5 times), on T:48865
19:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3557932 points, T:48939, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/nh361/dumplog/1553747467.nh361.txt
20:06 <hothraxxa> i still think grouchy should be a dwarf
20:09 <hothraxxa> consequence of an excess of wraith corpses in the valley: a vampire mage at the top of vlad's cast summon nasties and brought in an archon
20:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2764
20:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:69729
20:30 <rld> <@Umby the Tired> GL tangles and oh6
20:31 <Tangles_> cheers :)
20:37 <K2> sorry [Demo]
20:37 <K2> couple min turned into almost an hour and a half hah
20:37 <K2> 'daddy i'm hungry' *makes food* 'daddy I dont like that (even tho she just asked for it)' etc etc
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20:41 <K2> so 'n' is taken
20:41 <K2> so is d
20:41 <K2> ah... 'o' for not
20:42 <K2> \o/
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20:46 <Grasshopper> K2, I'm hungry
20:46 <Grasshopper> guess I'd better go get breakfast then
20:46 * K2 makes Grasshopper a grilled cheese sammich
20:47 <Grasshopper> YUM YUM
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20:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 13500 points, T:9591, killed by a bolt of lightning
20:56 <{Demo}3> 'o' for not lol
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21:06 <K2> Hello k2, welcome to notdNetHack!  You are a lawful incantifier Priestess.
21:06 <K2> --More--
21:06 <K2> that took longer than necessary
21:07 <K2> install script was still using dnethack and not notdnethack hah
21:07 <K2> [Demo] ndnh is on hdf-us
21:07 <K2> hit 'o' from variant menu
21:07 <K2> i still need to get the menu configured
21:08 <K2> 9 or ( to edit rc cfg
21:08 <K2> brb
21:08 <{Demo}3> wait is there an install script i missed updating?
21:14 <K2> yeah there's no install anything on your repo. i just modified the one we have for dnethack
21:14 <K2> there's GNUmakefile
21:14 <K2> but no instructions
21:14 <K2> for me doesnt matter but for others it might be a thing
21:17 <{Demo}3> wheres the one for dnethack from?
21:17 <{Demo}3> and is it distributed as with dnethack?
21:17 <{Demo}3> err remove the word as
21:18 <K2> no
21:18 <K2> its a script Tangles_ made
21:18 <K2> i'll hook you up in a bit
21:19 <K2> [Demo] two files:
21:20 <K2> both of these go in the root build directory
21:20 <K2> first one is called local.mk
21:20 <K2> this is mine for hdf - https://termbin.com/bbmn
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21:21 <K2> second is the install script called 'install-to-chroot.sh' (can call it whatever, chmod 755)
21:21 <K2> https://termbin.com/lr52
21:21 <K2> first file is just instructions for make that override whats in GNUmakefile
21:22 <K2> second is a script that assumes you've installed within a chroot jail
21:22 <K2> and are using dgl
21:23 <K2>  a) Demo             ndnh048   237x 62  2019-04-09 01:10:17            0    D5
21:23 <K2> woot
21:23 <K2> your version convention is odd
21:23 <K2> i get it... but hah
21:24 <{Demo}3> its more practical i think
21:24 <K2> hey whatever floats your boat
21:27 <picaresquieu> where the FUCK DID ALL THESE GIANT SPIDERS COME FROM
21:27 <picaresquieu> like 6 of them
21:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1891 points, T:2754, killed by a giant spider
21:39 <K2> picaresquieu its a unnethack thing
21:39 <K2> *an
21:40 <{Demo}3> ah yeah shit i think livelogs work so the bot should be hooked to those
21:40 <K2> bhaak's patronus becomes stringer everytime someone dies to a horde of giant spiders inunnethack
21:40 <K2> {Demo}3 yeah i still have bits to do still
21:40 <{Demo}3> shit i left a debug pline in oh well
21:41 <K2> *stronger
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21:49 <{Demo}3> man this large dog is nuts... tearing up trolls and ogre mages
21:51 <K2> ok i think I know how to redo the menu
21:51 <K2> with ndnh out and evilhack soon to follow, i need to rearrange
21:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:66338
21:59 <{Demo}3> hmm this magic whistling on hit weapon is actually pretty neat
22:03 <K2> ndnh is on the menu
22:04 <K2> had to split it up between 3.x and 4.x version variants
22:05 <K2> i really should reorder them by alphabetical order
22:06 <K2> eh
22:08 <hothraxxa> hm. wand of death in one of the shops in orcus town
22:08 <K2> neat
22:09 <hothraxxa> yeah but i already have a few. one of them got blown up by an exploding yellow ward, along with my ring of slow digestion
22:09 <hothraxxa> i just took one from orcus
22:09 <K2> gimme dat
22:10 <hothraxxa> meet me at the swap chest
22:10 <K2> {Demo}3 have you discussed junethack with bhaak? or is that something you want ndnh to be a part of this year?
22:11 <{Demo}3> that is something i intend to do after ndnh is on hdf
22:11 <{Demo}3> so probably ill talk to him tomorrow
22:12 <K2> cool
22:12 <K2> the xlogfile, is it tab delimited?
22:14 <{Demo}3> colon and newline delimited
22:14 <K2> k
22:15 <{Demo}3> whoops xlog says DNH not NDNH
22:17 <K2> hah
22:17 <K2> levels in ndnh are they the same as dnh
22:17 <K2> and i'd fix the xlogfile bit now
22:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Hippocrates, on T:75475
22:19 <K2> and roles/races
22:19 <K2> they same also?
22:19 <K2> I'm asking because I am updating beholder
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22:23 <Tangles_> lol oh6 - put the old guy out of his misery!
22:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36948
22:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] k2 (Pri Inc Fem Law), 0 points, T:71, killed by a goblin
22:25 <K2> ^ {Demo}3
22:26 <K2> !whereis k2
22:26 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] k2 [ndnh]: No details available
22:26 <K2> hmm
22:26 <{Demo}3> pushed
22:27 <K2> ok
22:27 <K2> notdNetHack updated (hdf-us)
22:28 <K2> !whereis k2
22:28 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] k2 [ndnh]: (Ana Elf Fem Cha) T:68 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2
22:28 <K2> there we go
22:28 <{Demo}3> wild
22:29 <K2> {Demo}3 roles/races, levels... they the same as dnh or different?
22:29 <{Demo}3> thanks
22:29 <K2> no prob
22:29 <{Demo}3> no they are different, see changelog.txt for some of it that I thought to document
22:30 <K2> some? lol
22:30 <{Demo}3> most
22:30 <{Demo}3> it's not throughly detailed cause then it would be too long to read
22:30 <K2> !whereis k2
22:30 <Beholder> K2: k2 is not playing.
22:30 <K2> perfect
22:31 <K2> for whereis to work properly, i'll need an in order list of every level
22:31 <K2> otherwise it will start to report incorrectly depending on the level
22:32 <{Demo}3> how was the one used for dnh generated?
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22:33 <K2> https://github.com/NHTangles/beholder/blob/master/beholder.py#L268
22:33 <K2> for now I just copied dnh for ndnh
22:33 <K2> trying to remember the file you crack open
22:34 <Tangles_> It's just branches, not levels.
22:35 <K2> right
22:35 <{Demo}3> !whereis Demo2
22:35 <Beholder> {Demo}3: [hdf-us] Demo2 [ndnh]: No details available
22:35 <K2> hop down a level
22:35 <K2> or up
22:36 <{Demo}3> !whereis Demo2
22:36 <Beholder> {Demo}3: [hdf-us] Demo2 [ndnh]: (Acu Sal Fem Law) T:33 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2
22:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:25606
22:36 <K2> Tangles_ I cant remember which file has all the branches laid out in the right order
22:38 <K2> oh wait
22:38 <K2> dat/dungeon.def
22:38 <K2> \o/
22:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo2 (Acu Sal Fem Law), 743 points, T:362, killed by a snake
22:42 <{Demo}3> !whereis Demo2
22:42 <Beholder> {Demo}3: [hdf-us] Demo2 [ndnh]: (Acu Sal Fem Law) T:501 The Lost Cities level: 4
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo2 (Acu Sal Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:554
22:43 <K2> lol lokoban?
22:43 <{Demo}3> oh hey that livelog actually works, nope, dismal swamps
22:43 <K2> yeah i am updating it
22:44 <rld> <@luxidream> adventure time in adventure town
22:44 <Tangles_> Are wands of death actually just more expensive wands of nothing in splicehack?
22:44 <Tangles_> they don't work on Rodney or the high priest.
22:45 <rld> <@luxidream> wat
22:45 <rld> <@luxidream> when was this changed?
22:45 <rld> <@luxidream> honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it were a bug
22:45 <K2> {Demo}3 what about roles/races
22:46 <rld> <@luxidream> "destroyed"
22:46 <rld> <@luxidream> maybe he's a zombie now
22:46 <Tangles_> the high priest may have had a CoMR.
22:46 <Tangles_> he's a statue now.
22:46 <rld> <@luxidream> no, I mean the livelog says "destroyed" rather than "killed"
22:46 <rld> <@luxidream> suggesting he's undead?
22:46 <K2> nm i see
22:46 <Tangles_> yeah that too. I noticed that with Croesus also.
22:47 <{Demo}3> roles/races - sal Salamander acu Illithanachronounbinder
22:47 <{Demo}3> mon Mystic
22:47 <Tangles_> he actually said 'undead' in the pokedex.
22:47 <{Demo}3> hmm that unique kill and "luckstone" pickup didnt livelog...
22:48 <Tangles_> nope, high priest had a robe, no CoMR.
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22:51 <K2> {Demo}3 ok beholder should be good to go with all ndnh races/roles and levels
22:51 <K2> !who
22:51 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] saxonysam [nh362] SkydiveMike [nh362] Bartlem [nh362] Qwesti [nh362] Spooky [nh4] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Tangles [spl]
22:53 <{Demo}3> thanks
22:54 <{Demo}3> !whereis Demo2
22:54 <Beholder> {Demo}3: [hdf-us] Demo2 [ndnh]: (Acu Sal Fem Law) T:897 The Dismal Swamp level: 11
22:56 <K2> !who
22:56 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] saxonysam [nh362] SkydiveMike [nh362] Bartlem [nh362] Qwesti [nh362] Spooky [nh4] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Tangles [spl]
22:56 <K2> hmm
22:57 <K2> !who
22:57 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] k2 [ndnh] saxonysam [nh362] SkydiveMike [nh362] Bartlem [nh362] Qwesti [nh362] Spooky [nh4] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Tangles [spl]
22:58 <K2> ok
22:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] k2 (Ana Elf Fem Cha), 196 points, T:265, killed by a hobbit
23:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 724 points, T:1702, killed by a wand
23:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:37540
23:18 <rld> <@luxidream> !tell AntiGulp did you make the wizard and priest undead?
23:18 <Beholder> AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, @luxidream.
23:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:37885
23:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] kdg (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 146 points, T:742, killed by a little dog called Idefix
23:24 <Tangles_> The invisible hex dragon casts a spell at you! Oh no, they's using the touch of death! Lucky for you, it didn't work!
23:25 <Tangles_> lucky they's didn't know I have magic resistance.
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23:38 <Tangles_> You finish eating the master mind flayer corpse. You feel a strange mental acuity.
23:38 <Tangles_> T:43030
23:41 <Tangles_> oh wow... the constant poison gas attacks that blind you for 4/5 turns are way easier to deal with now.
23:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:38063