00:04 -!- UsagiMero has joined #hardfought 00:07 It smells sort of fleecy in here. 00:07 \o/ 00:07 lol 00:13 haha 00:14 ^ hallu msg from a trap in evilhack 00:17 [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Pir Inf Mal Cha), 1514 points, T:4769, killed by a silver orcish arrow 00:17 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 00:18 <{Demo}3> all sorts of bundled 00:35 Tangles_: they even roll up in the same way! 00:37 speaking of fax machines, I had a moment of enlightenment the other day when I saw "facsimile paper" in the store. Never even thought about where the name came from! 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 241 points, T:1099, killed by a coyote, while sleeping 00:49 [hdf-us] [fh] Asturias (Val Hum Fem Law), 7692 points, T:243, quit 00:59 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 01:03 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1888 points, T:1934, killed by a black unicorn 01:14 <@Umby the Tired> when you read up on another nethack server and saw someone died to Famine with the Amulet on them 01:14 <@Umby the Tired> :GWvictoriaNotLikeBlob: 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:45018 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed for the first time, on T:4580 01:32 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:35 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2629 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 496 points, T:6746, killed by a paper golem 01:54 -!- theRaisse is now known as Raisse 01:54 -!- Raisse is now known as raisse 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:45372 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:45378 02:14 -!- sodastabbed has joined #hardfought 02:14 -!- sodastabbed has quit [Excess Flood] 02:15 -!- sodastabbed has joined #hardfought 02:15 -!- sodastab has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22 -!- sodastabbed has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:23 -!- sodastab has joined #hardfought 02:25 if that left bones someone's lucky, I dropped my BoH to fight 02:25 but I was out of Pw and wand charges 02:39 What do you want to eat? [eKO or ?*] ? 02:39 yes, I would :-) 03:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:52202 03:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:13 -!- UsagiMero has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:17 -!- Umby has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:27 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:35 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:37 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 06:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:59 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:07 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 07:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:40 Ugh my splice game crashed :( 07:47 Tangles_, splice it together again? 07:51 not helping 07:51 how did it crash? 07:54 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:54 THere was some impossible() message about it placing one monster on another when I saved, which has happened before, now it doesn't load. It says someting about failing to uncompress the save, then next time I try it, it goes to the new game screen (which is on the new version, because the .gz for the save no longer exisits - because it DID actually uncompress) 07:54 oh oof 07:54 -!- raisse is now known as Guest18133 07:55 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 07:55 -!- Guest18133 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:55 -!- raisse is now known as Guest76483 07:57 Hmm I can start it by running the chroot command from the CLI. 07:57 splice issues again 07:58 -!- Guest76483 is now known as raisse 07:58 Restoring save file... placing monster over another? Program in disorder! Hello Tangles, the male infernal Rogue, welcome back to SpliceHack! 07:58 I guess save this and try again from dgl :/ 07:59 While saving I get: placing monster over another? Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 07:59 --More-- 07:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:47334 08:00 damn 08:00 Yeah that seemed to work. 08:00 i've been in contact with antigulp, she's aware of whats going on. she's just having a hard time finding the time to do anything about it 08:01 Yeah no worries. THis might also be curses related. 08:02 damn you Real Life™ 08:03 * raisse points at you, then curses. 08:03 er, that was addressed to Real Life™ 08:03 :) 08:04 i was about to say, 'take a number' 08:06 Ok I know the problem. 08:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayer, on T:47381 08:07 Well, part of the problem... First this happens: 1547725164 (name removed): impossible placing monster over another? 08:08 that's just splicehack doing its thing... but if you try to restore a game using curses, then this happens: 1547725164 (name removed): panic impossible called impossible 08:09 "impossible called impossible" lol 08:09 splice question (unrelated) when you play, do you get rivers randomly on regular dungeon maps? 08:09 Not that I remember. 08:09 dnethack has watery levels though. 08:09 -!- stennowork has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:09 I do remember rivers in junethack 08:10 but yes, that was probably dnh, I played rather a lot of that for unique deaths 08:10 i ask because of this commit - https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/commit/4e3ece4bfa16bd59243e79fcb2fcce3329429d62 - but i wonder if antigulp removed it since then 08:10 ^ but this isnt important, just me wondering about things 08:11 hmm so I need to stop impossible() from calling impossible() in the curses windowport. 08:11 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 08:11 -!- stennowork is now known as Guest75420 08:12 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:12 K2: do you still have a branch for splicehack 0.6.1? 08:13 i should yeah 08:13 Because I'll need to patch against that. 08:14 splicehack 0.6.0 to 0.6.2 is on the server 08:14 github branch, i think i just maintain current, but its easy enough to clone from a specific point in time i guess 08:14 yeah just latest and greatest 08:16 hmm look at this - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/f52e9865f283378359191d5ea186206d60129921 08:16 ^ vanilla 3.6.2 from april 6th 08:17 * K2 is about to update 362-hdf 08:19 I'm not logged in and I suppose it won't break save 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:47525 08:32 -!- Guest75420 has quit [Changing host] 08:32 -!- Guest75420 has joined #hardfought 08:33 -!- Guest75420 is now known as stennowork 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:47913 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:48120 09:05 !who 09:05 K2: [hdf-us] Hill [nh362] gatherer [nh362] Grouchy [nh362] | [hdf-eu] bubbles [dnh] janekw [nh362] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:05 OT: we are establishing a javascript codegolf channel ##jsgolf 09:08 Evil Patch idea: if you dip a potion into something and get an "Interesting..." message, the potion is also used up even though nothing happened. 09:08 Interesting... 09:08 to be fair, that wouldn't be that evil 09:08 i kinda see it as a rule hole atm that the potion is not used up 09:09 yeah, makes it kinda trivial to test for e.g. sickness 09:10 Technically that's dipping things into potions, not dipping potions into other potions. 09:17 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 09:18 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Client Quit] 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:31680 09:26 tangles: i just cleared splice votd last night and i had the same experience, at least 10 wraith corpses. i doubt this is intended 09:29 !tell antigulp at least 10 wraiths in the votd left corpses. is this intended? 09:29 I'm on it, hothraxxa. 09:34 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:36 reading back: so evilhack doors will be like grunt and xnh. thanks k2, i love checking every door three times for traps 09:36 :) 09:36 Evil Patch idea for evilhack: make it so that some door traps are just plain unfindable regardless of the amount of searching you do :P 09:37 did you add electric traps a la xnh? because exploding rings is always a treat 09:38 splice wards do the same thing and are even more evil because they can be anywhere 09:38 <{Demo}3> hmm today is suspiciously warm.... 09:38 <{Demo}3> high of 81, i dont trust it 09:38 wards? what do those do? when I played splice those probably didn't exist yet 09:41 [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Pir Inf Mal Cha), 1774 points, T:3667, killed by a jaguar 09:42 <{Demo}3> i have a big figuring that they dont work like dnh 09:43 <{Demo}3> im curious if they innovate the ward game in such a way ndnh might wanna steal some ideas from them 09:43 <{Demo}3> somebody investigate splice wards and report :P 09:46 hothraxxa i did not import electric door traps from xnh 09:47 in fact i prob wont import any xnh traps - aosdict did a complete trap refactor 09:47 * LarienTelrunya suddenly gets the idea of making a variant of evilhack that implements all the *really* evil stuff that evilhack didn't implement :P 09:47 dont feel like doing that much work for just one or two extra traps 09:50 bah. you are not evil 09:51 is evilhack eviller than spork? 09:51 because spork is already pretty evil 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 438 points, T:2180, killed by a wand 09:52 stennowork: perhaps 09:53 it's combining a lot of sporkhack and grunthack stuff 09:53 gotcha 09:53 so the potential is there 09:53 grunt zombies i assume? 09:53 yup 09:53 that was one of the first things i added 09:53 and the 7-times kill for astral call? 09:53 ? 09:54 er you get killed 7 times in a row when you try to attempt astral call 09:54 grunts way of 'fixing' this problem 09:54 oh 09:54 no 09:54 oh its probably based on 3.6.1 where astral call is already fixed 09:54 yup 09:54 right right 09:55 that reminds me... in gh if you eat a zombie corpse, you start to turn into one. i need to add that 09:56 what? zombie corpses are so yummy 09:56 yuk 09:56 deathly ill not evil enough eh 09:56 in 3.6.x you can sometimes eat a zombie corpse and be ok 09:56 K2: does it also have the grunthack effect where eating a tainted corpse still takes the full amount of turns? because I died that way from a giant zombie corpse in grunt once 09:57 LarienTelrunya: i havent changed any 3.6.x eating tainted corpse behavior 09:57 yet 09:57 i.e. try to eat it, "Ulch - that meat was tainted! You feel deathly sick. (20-something turns later) You die from your illness." with no way of stopping it 09:57 then dont eat giant xombie corpses 09:57 zombie 09:58 tin it 09:58 [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:1537 10:00 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:61613 10:00 <{Demo}3> that's dumb 10:03 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 10:07 hothraxxa: a design choice of not having an advantage due to timezones or physical location close to a public server 10:09 hothraxxa: there is only a handful of people that even qualify for the speedrun stuff and those would also be the likely winner for the "first ascension" trophies. although that has somewhat changed considering the insane number of variants that are being kept on life support by unnamed admins 10:10 o/ 10:11 grunthack and sporkhack are now basically just bugfixes. i'm pretty much done adding anything ew to those 10:11 because evilhack 10:11 *new 10:11 sporkhack was just QoL and bugfixes anyways 10:12 amy and chris need to get with the program and port their variants over to 3.6.x 10:12 :P 10:12 speaking of which... unnethack 6 when? 10:12 have fun porting slex to 3.6 10:12 playing 3.6 is already about as fun as taking a hydrochloric acid bath, but PORTING slex to it??? 10:13 stennowork: you mean 'amy, have fun porting slex to 3.6' 10:13 yes 10:13 K2: depends on when bitcoin reaches 1 million 10:13 bitcoin is on the rise agian 10:14 bhaak: its up lately 10:14 from 3.5k to 4.7k in a few days 10:14 * bhaak ...oooOOO(that'll give me some time and likely will never happen) 10:14 LarienTelrunya: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c0daba931051d58acc6b9d3c799a9730d8b7d962 - search for 'Amy' 10:14 that's only a pump 10:14 the next halving is next year 10:14 watch what happens 10:14 really, hydrochloric acid bath? those must be a slex thing. 10:15 K2: lol? usually I don't use the adjective "fleecy" to describe a smell 10:16 i know 10:16 its why i added it 10:16 hallu msg 10:16 paxed: hi! you made dgamelaunch, right? what could be the cause if dgamelaunch crashes with exit code 77 upon trying to open the watch menu? is it a config problem, library problem or something else? 10:16 \o/ 10:16 dtype made dgamelaunch 10:16 oh I see 10:17 <{Demo}3> they both arbitrarily start with d 10:17 d = paxed. i get it 10:17 daxep works as well as paxed 10:17 LarienTelrunya: dgl error codes are documented in the README 10:19 paxed: last night I added your magic beam trap from sporkhack to the variant i'm working on 10:19 beams for everyone 10:19 paxed: yeah but all it says is it's a "sem_wait()" error, whatever that means... what is a sem_wait error? 10:19 i may play with it a bit, add disintegration as a possibility 10:20 K2, that is a not good possibility 10:20 hi. evilhack 10:20 evil 10:20 K2: do eeet, I already did in slex and no one complained about it yet *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 10:20 <{Demo}3> is using yy.mm.dd as a naming convention for nethack versions gonna break things? 10:22 xlog would be the only thing affected by it, right? 10:22 hopefully nethack doesn't use The Microsoft Way of Checking Versions 10:23 you will have problems when your variant is older than 100 years 10:23 * bhaak teaches you to think for the long run 10:24 <{Demo}3> yeah but I'll be dead by 2118 cause I started at 18.mm.dd 10:24 oh nethack will totally break in year 2038 btw 10:24 on 32bit systems 10:24 LarienTelrunya: sem_xxx are semaphore calls, needed so only one dgl process accesses the shared memory at a time. 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33037 10:25 paxed: okay, but how are errors with them caused? maybe you encountered a sem_wait error so you'd know how to avoid it? that would be useful because right now trying to watch on the esm server throws that error 10:26 LarienTelrunya: i can't recall offhand. you could take a look at the source yourself ... 10:28 if (sem_wait(&(shm_dg_data->dg_sem)) == -1) { debug_write("sem_wait"); graceful_exit(77); } 10:28 that's probably what happens 10:31 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:32 {Demo}3: as a programmer, I totally hate those people that don't solve bugs right now and instead kick the can down the street 10:33 bhaak, it's called 'ergebnisorientiertes arbeiten' 10:33 stennowork: das Ergebnis ist "mehr Fehler" :-) 10:33 wahr 10:37 <{Demo}3> fair point I guess next ndnh version will be 2019.04.xx 10:38 are you using dots as seperators to be version-like? 10:38 bhaak: makes sense to me, thanks for the reply 10:39 <{Demo}3> yes is that bad? 10:39 epi: on 4/20, anyone who starts a game gets stoned 10:39 {Demo}3, nope 10:40 well the bad thing would be that it wouldn't be a ISO 8601-valid date but that's more or less irrelevant 10:42 yeah and at least it's the right order 10:42 yes it's lexically sortable and thats the important thing 10:42 <{Demo}3> smallest to biggest makes alphabetical order work 10:42 <{Demo}3> yeah 10:43 <{Demo}3> wait no its biggest to smallest but the idea originally was it wouldn't be dumb when sorted alphabetically 10:44 demo: any date format other than iso 8601 is for idiots and americans 10:45 <{Demo}3> I disagree 10:45 feel free 10:46 <{Demo}3> if I'm looking at something informal usually that I wanna know when it was and it was within the year (as most relevant things are sometimes sort of) the first thing I wanna know is the month 10:46 <{Demo}3> or like better example, dates for upcoming events 10:46 the one true date format is dd.mm.yyyy :P 10:47 <{Demo}3> I like ydmy.yy.md, obfuscated date format 10:47 {Demo}3, the only problem would be that you'd have to wait a day for releasing a hotfix 10:48 if you still want to be semver-y 10:48 <@Umby the Tired> Hi 10:48 Hello @Umby the Tired, Welcome to #hardfought 10:48 <{Demo}3> nah the way the versions work is they are rolling 10:48 <{Demo}3> but they started their roll on that date 10:49 <{Demo}3> usually only get bug fixes rolled in and new shit goes to a non release branch 10:50 it would probably be relevant for junethack 10:51 hm or not, idk 10:51 <{Demo}3> I still wanna try to get an effort to try to get ndnh into jnh this year but I need to do a few things first before I start that like wrap up current version and get a release 10:52 [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5337 11:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:33054 11:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:33200 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1199 points, T:2090, killed by a pony 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 177 points, T:721, killed by a small mimic 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33321 11:38 hothraxxa: btw, I almost missed your question. if I don't reply, anybody can just poke me again. I will tell if I don't want to answer. I don't ghost people :-) 11:38 at least not intentionally. I tend to forgot to do stuff. 11:39 np. it wasn't important enough for !tell 11:39 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:41 if there are lots of tell's, the messages get overlooked more easily :) 11:47 <@Umby the Tired> so what is !tell exactly 11:49 it leaves a message for someone and then, when that person talks the next time, they receive the message 11:50 <@bhaak> !tell bhaak your variant sucks! 11:50 Will do, @bhaak! 11:50 hi there 11:50 bhaak: Message from @bhaak at 2019-04-08 11:50 EDT: your variant sucks! 11:50 self flagellation should work, too 11:50 !tell bhaak you suck! 11:50 Will do, bhaak! 11:51 hi there 11:51 bhaak: Message from bhaak at 2019-04-08 11:50 EDT: you suck! 11:51 :-( 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 703 points, T:2088, killed by a rothe 11:53 <@Umby the Tired> lul 11:53 <@Umby the Tired> Thank you 11:54 !tell LarienTelrunya thank you for making slex, it's the best variant ever! ♥ 11:54 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 11:55 (no, I'm not vain at all :P) 11:55 LarienTelrunya: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-04-08 11:54 EDT: thank you for making slex, it's the best variant ever! ♥ 11:55 [hdf-us] [spl] kdg (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 21267 points, T:10422, slain by a crocodile 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:55761 12:04 Couldn't load "asmodeus.lev" - making a maze. 12:05 Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 12:05 whaaat 12:05 blah 12:05 i just updated 362-hdf 12:05 as in 60 sec ago 12:05 i think your game is lost now? 12:05 no 12:05 or hm you can survive without asmo i guess 12:05 itjust made a maze instead 12:05 right 12:05 asmo will just not generate then 12:06 NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers) 12:06 hah 12:06 yeah, I can't say I mind having to skip a no-teleport level with the longest walking path 12:06 !who 12:06 K2: [hdf-us] saxonysam [nh362] Hill [nh362] kincle [nh362] gatherer [nh362] hothraxxa [spl] | [hdf-eu] mightyquinn [nh362] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:06 welp 12:06 new speedrun strat! 12:06 that's gonna affect a few ppl 12:06 I saved and reloaded and it seemed OK 12:06 oh6: right it will 12:07 OK, off to work 12:07 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 12 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34354 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:34768 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8720 points, T:7025, quit 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9595 12:33 K2: wtf, you made actual rivers generate in the mines? IIRC in grunthack it was just single water tiles in seemingly random locations 12:33 * K2 wants to see the new excalibur livelog messages 12:33 LarienTelrunya: we mock what we don't understand 12:33 name the actor/movie 12:33 uhh sorry, I almost never watch any movies so I have no idea 12:34 we should all play more valks? 12:34 Dan Aykroyd / Spies Like Us 12:34 yeah never heard of that before 12:34 raisse: wouldnt hurt hah 12:34 LarienTelrunya: awesome funny movie from the early/mid 80's 12:35 the last movie I watched was Oblivion with Tom Cruise, and that was 5 years ago or so 12:35 isn't dan aykroyd the blues brothers guy? 12:35 yes 12:36 him and joh belushi 12:36 john 12:36 <@luxidream> K2: if there are rivers in the mines, does that make it unplayable without levitation? 12:36 nope 12:36 <@luxidream> in grunt at least you can dig 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:34761 12:36 the river generation is random 12:36 sometimes it wont affect you at all, sometimes you'll need to get creative 12:36 just like grunthack 12:37 but this implementation is better imo, the river generation code is NOT from grunthack 12:37 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:38 <@luxidream> so it's more like random water, and not a huge river like the lethe patch stuff? 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] k2 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 86 points, T:499, killed by a black pudding 12:39 @luxidream it varies 12:39 random 12:39 this isnt lethe patch code either 12:40 read - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3e85fb4aa4c8bb3f410bdfafd11ad75a40d94106 12:41 looks to me like L's rivers patch 12:42 * K2 shrugs 12:42 i havent seen L's river patch 12:42 what?! where did you get it from then? 12:42 maybe L took it from paxed 12:42 <@luxidream> is that where spl's river creation came from? 12:42 did you not read the commit? 12:42 @luxidream yes 12:43 hmm the commit says that a certain "Pasi Kallinen" wrote the patch... I think I heard that name before 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2149 points, T:6542, killed by a gnome king 12:46 LarienTelrunya: seriously 12:47 lol 12:47 sorry paxed you're not famous 12:47 LarienTelrunya doesn't have a clue who you are 12:48 if LarienTelrunya doesn't know you, might as well not exist ;) 12:48 <@luxidream> that just means she hasn't made fun of you in slex 12:48 hah 12:50 <@IceBox> i'm proud to say that i am in basically all variants of nethack 12:50 @IceBox!!!! 12:50 yes iceboxes for everyone heheh 12:50 i heard there's a selfie of pasi kallinen around where he's posing with an author 12:50 <@IceBox> yep, you may all begin your grovelling 12:51 K2: oh I see; most people I only know by their nickname 12:51 if you're not stocked with booze, please move along 12:51 <@Tone> The Ice Box?! 12:51 <@IceBox> yeah, send my your tired, your poor, your huddled masses and your corpses 12:51 <@IceBox> me* 12:51 there can be only one 12:52 Highlander - best movie EVER 12:52 oh wait, Viserion drops an empty ice box 12:52 i have a tame hundred handed one named viserion 12:53 he used to be a zombie red dragon but there was a polymorph accident 13:00 -!- workimer has joined #hardfought 13:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v workimer] by ChanServ 13:02 -!- remirol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 562 points, T:1642, killed by a boulder 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "test", on T:3078 13:21 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed historic partly eaten fixed magic marker named prop. of blek le rat", on T:63380 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:10842 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:10843 13:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 360 points, T:1150, killed by a gnome 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 677 points, T:869, killed by an orcish dagger 13:56 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:12319 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 348 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:58110 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13261 14:18 hothraxxa: lol 14:18 that selfie was taken at worldcon in helsinki, I was there for some reason :-) 14:20 raisse: we'll have to repeat it in Dublin, hm? :) 14:20 -!- isha has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20 yes! 14:21 -!- isha has joined #hardfought 14:21 I may have been too late to tell them I want to do it, though 14:21 the application form intimidated me so I don't remember if I actually sent in a definitive version 14:21 -!- rojacat has joined #hardfought 14:21 save a pic for me paxed. i'll be there too 14:21 tried to contact the organization but haven't got an answer yet 14:21 K2: oh? nice 14:21 \o/ 14:22 we'll have to do it informally if it's not in the program, worked for the conlang meet in dublin too 14:22 er, in helsnki 14:22 raisse: hm. well, it doesn't have to be an official thing anyway 14:22 right 14:22 I can actually spell "helsinki" 14:23 i still need to figure out accommodation for the 4 days after the con 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Rog Orc Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a rothe corpse, on T:3508 14:28 i think stenno is gonna be there also 14:30 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 2191 zorkmids of merchandise from the liquor emporium of Krnov on T:16378 14:33 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Malcanthet, on T:63813 14:40 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 14:49 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:63990 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:16798 14:56 <{Demo}3> what is the most important level in nethack? 14:58 <{Demo}3> nevermind, what are the three most important levels in order of importance 14:59 subjectively? castle, sanctum, astral maybe? 15:00 each one changes the game 15:01 those are good choices 15:01 <{Demo}3> yeah just looking for opinions 15:01 <{Demo}3> vibe square lvl is sort of important? 15:01 i agree with muad 15:02 well if you go there, so is quest goal and top of vlad's and top of rodney's 15:03 still standing under muad's banner 15:05 <{Demo}3> I like that answer as well 15:05 <{Demo}3> just from previous example 15:05 <@luxidream> Minetown is important 15:06 <{Demo}3> variants that change those are annoying 15:07 <@luxidream> assuming we’re talking about vanilla ice nothing exists after castle 15:08 <@luxidream> vanilla* 15:08 {Demo}3 that's pretty much every variant 15:08 <@luxidream> so most important levels are castle, minetown, Medusa 15:09 <@luxidream> soko4 gets an honorable mention 15:09 starting level is in top 3. how to start off sets the tone for the entire game 15:09 *how you 15:09 <@luxidream> YANI: crawl ambush vaults 15:11 sokoban is quite a bit more important in evilhack than in other variants 15:12 because 1) magic markers will never randomly generate and no role starts with one and 2) there's a chance of a magic marker showing up as a sokoban end prize 15:13 <@luxidream> Ah 15:13 <@luxidream> The best feature of spork 15:13 you can still polypile/wish for them though 15:13 hmm... if an object is flagged as not randomly generated, will one pop up via polypiling? 15:13 <{Demo}3> fuck soko 15:14 <{Demo}3> no 15:14 alrighty then 15:14 wishes only then :P 15:14 and soko 15:14 <{Demo}3> u ever get a runesword polypiling? 15:14 not that i recall... i normally dont polypile weapons 15:15 <@luxidream> Nope 15:17 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:64424 15:19 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:4104 15:19 i polypile weapons in variants that have materials because silver weapons 15:19 <{Demo}3> katanas 15:19 <{Demo}3> +9 katanas 15:20 i polyed up a silver long sword for my xnh arc, then dual-wielded that with excalibur 15:20 Grasshopper usually spends the time and effort for a +9 excalibur 15:20 both only +6 but gehennom was a cakewalk 15:20 i know. nice if you have patience 15:21 and enough raw material 15:21 once i get to +6, i stop worrying 15:21 the difference is not significant imo 15:22 I inadvertently had the +9 Grayswandir once 15:22 forgot to change weapons for enchanting my offhand weapon, not ONCE but TWICE 15:22 i got a ridiculously overenchanted weapon in some variant. i think it was fourk 15:23 i get you enjoyed the bibrations 15:23 er bet 15:23 yes 15:23 vibrations 15:23 wow 15:23 moar vibrations! 15:23 i cab't typ 15:23 did you overindulge in something? 15:24 i'm wearing -11 gloves of mistyping named prop. of mavis beacon 15:24 lol -11, no wonder you can't type 15:24 mine are only -1 15:24