00:08 oh yeah asmo seems to have disappeared 00:09 ugh someday I'll figure out how to do Gehennom in one traversal up and down 00:10 presently my character is wearing the T-shirt that says something like "I'm not a pack rat--I'm a collector!" 00:16 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 00:20 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:26 -!- picaresquieu has quit [] 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Menche (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1370 points, T:2017, killed by a blue jelly 00:52 -!- hpardis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:16 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 01:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:33 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 01:40 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:14, killed by an electric shock 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 305 points, T:955, killed by a giant bat 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 152 points, T:404, killed by a burning book 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 288 points, T:2201, killed by a giant bat 02:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 160 points, T:714, killed by a wand 02:42 evil patch idea: make everyone die of trickery one day 02:43 Is that how there are trickeries on the scoreboard? 02:43 I don't know, but for splicehack, I know of one source of trickeries 02:46 oh? 02:46 actually, nevermind, I don't know how to get a trickery 02:55 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:12 argh new weapon syndrome 03:49 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:52 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:06 Thump! You hear a door open. 04:06 not quite the right sound 04:23 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:31823 05:25 It is not so easy to open this tin. You hear a strange wind. 05:25 must be a tin of beans 05:28 fuu- just when I was about to start polypiling to get it all started 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4520 07:15 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 07:47 -!- workimer is now known as lorimer 07:53 hah elenmirie__ 07:54 tin of beans 08:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9895 08:31 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:37 wooo look at this... a paxed commit 08:37 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/be40ff310485857780b8fa4c5590413ff686fe19 08:41 <@Tone> He did a lot of work on those cursor qol and accessibility options when 361 came out, I think 08:44 <@Winsalot> :( 08:44 have been on NAO already for a while 08:48 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:50 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:53 NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers) 08:53 ^ statuslines 3 in tty mode 08:53 among other bits 09:30 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1161 points, T:739, killed by a puppy called "" 09:33 The soldier thrusts his short sword named Sword of Tangles. 09:33 I don't think that belongs to you... 09:34 The Sword of Tsngles 09:34 +5 snuggles 09:34 Tangles 09:34 dammit 09:35 lol 09:36 ah hell... TAB with msgtype=alert isnt working 09:36 i can hit enter 09:36 or esc 09:38 tty mode 09:38 lemme check curses 09:39 ok curses mode is fine 09:39 hah its usually the other way around ;) 09:40 brb... damn you work 09:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:23101 09:48 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 09:50 !tell antigulp 2 minor bugs - pressing : on 2-headed hydra produces impossible() due to no description; monsters with choice of melee weapon and polearm will sand two spaces away and swap weapons indefinitely. 09:50 antigulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Tangles_. 09:54 that 2nd bug is prob from import of grunthacks intelligent monster code 09:54 i notice some same behavior in evilhack 09:54 stand, not sand obviously :) 09:55 also why is Croesus undead? Is that just a splice thing? 09:56 I only came to ludios for the dragons anyway, but they all turned out to be fell beasts and hydra (hydrae?) 09:57 it has to be a splice thing 09:57 croesus should not be undead normally 09:59 Tangles_ can you think of why msgtype=alert TAB isnt working in tty mode? 09:59 i'm looking in src/pline.c 09:59 oh 09:59 looks like... 09:59 case MSGTYP_ALERT: 09:59 iflags.msg_is_alert = TRUE; /* */ 09:59 . /* FT */ 09:59 case MSGTYP_STOP: 09:59 display_nhwindow(WIN_MESSAGE, TRUE); /* --more-- */ 09:59 break; 10:00 alert falls thru to the other types 10:00 i wonder if i accidentally omitted a line in the last couple merges with vanilla 10:00 wouldnt be first time... 10:00 * K2 goes to look at file history 10:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:02 tangles: just so you know, that splice bug with no description applies in a lot of cases 10:02 hothraxxa: Message from K2 at 2019-03-31 19:26 EDT: recovered your splicehack game, sorry i didnt notice sooner 10:03 k2: thanks, but it will only crash again i fear 10:04 yeah 10:04 hmm I cant see how TAB no loner works in tty mode 10:04 would have to have been something from here - https://github.com/NHTangles/NetHack36/commit/190c90e95edbab27d83c6699215cca262ca0e345#diff-2ca7040bfe251aa6af507835d764c31f 10:04 as this is fairly recent 10:05 putmsg() 10:05 maybe 10:05 oh 10:05 hi K2 10:05 i think maybe i see it 10:05 hi 10:05 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 10:06 can I get a restore on my last splice game? Same crash in Ludios. I hit "s" to search for landmines. 10:07 k 10:07 No rush. The meeting I intend to ignore isn't for another 2 hours :). 10:07 hah 10:07 nethack is like work therapy. 10:07 shit that didnt work 10:08 bouquet game recovered 10:09 Tangles: yeah I dunno why TAB isnt working in tty mode now 10:09 i tried what i thought was a fix and it didnt fix 10:10 thank you, K2 10:10 K2: There was a commit on Dec 11, 2018 10:10 I'm just trying to find a link to it. 10:10 looking in topl.c now 10:12 hmm 10:12 k2: prepare for recovery. i teleported below the level causing the crash, now let's see what happens when i go up 10:12 hmm no that's not it. 10:12 hothraxxa k 10:13 heh, I tried turning off curses and using tty but it still crashed. Restore, please :). 10:13 done 10:13 crashed as soon as i tried to farlook the white Q 10:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:13 hothraxxa done 10:13 !who 10:13 bouquet: [hdf-us] chip [nh362] Naltrac [4k] Delraven [xnh] | [hdf-eu] janekw [nh362] mightyquinn [nh362] Raisse [nh362] elenko [nh343] | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh362] Tangles [spl] 10:13 both of you... just hold off on splice for now imo 10:13 oh there's an idea. i'll disable curses 10:14 it didn't work for me. Same crash 10:14 i won't bother. the crash is caused by the amalgamation. she has bugs with that 10:14 that was at hothraxxa... 10:15 i don't even remember anything about this game, except that i have an orc wizrd that's done the quest 10:16 uhh... coding question: is there an alternative to the function "sqrt"? because slex fails to compile on unix when I added sqrt calls, although it compiles on windows 10:16 K2: https://github.com/NHTangles/NetHack36/commit/fa1d0351bd80f84385ca225018e62ef8c30f06a1 10:17 yeah 10:18 that code still exists in current form 10:18 as far as i have seen so far 10:21 LarienTelrunya: missing -lm linking? 10:21 uhh what? I'm afraid I have no clue about that 10:21 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.2-beta01/src/hacklib.c#L624 ? 10:21 <@luxidream> another reason to genocide amalgamations 10:22 Andrio: oh huh, is that basically a cloned sqrt function built in to nethack? so I can use that? :) 10:23 hey that's new 10:23 LarienTelrunya: a integer sqrt function. 10:23 ah so that's why it's called "isqrt" 10:24 oh, not new. I just never noticed it 10:25 Looks like it, yes, but 'integer square root'. 10:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:23719 10:26 it's a tiles world. you don't need floating points precision 10:26 From what I can see some of the special level code uses it? 10:32 and the spell code for calculating the spell success 10:34 huh, in slex "isqrt" is only defined and used in spell.c... I apparently need to externalize it 10:35 <{Demo}2> ndnh (retardedly) uses it for a monster special attack 10:36 slex will do so too! for the chokhmah attack specifically, which is from dnethack :P 10:36 <{Demo}2> oh well then I guess dnh already does it? probably for a dumb reason? 10:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:37 uhh no, I use it for something slex-specific 10:37 <{Demo}2> nope I only see it in one place (mine) in mhitu, at least 10:38 <{Demo}2> ah 10:38 in slex, the sin counter adds to the damage of AD_CHKH, but currently as a flat value, and one race starts with 100 sins... cue DYWYPI if a level 0 monster with chokhmah attack hits you even once :D 10:38 so I want to use the square root of the sin counter instead 10:39 <{Demo}2> a cool thing for a role could be where the more of a sinner you are, the stronger you are 10:43 Tangles_ i dont see any changes between initial commit and now in topl.c (msgtype alert) 10:43 still looking 10:44 Yeah just looking at that now. I can't see any reason it wouldn't work. 10:44 I have to crash anyway... I'll look some more tomorrow if you still haven't found it. 10:45 'night. 10:45 ok thanks. gnite 10:45 <{Demo}2> this could be a really dope role 10:47 LarienTelrunya: in 3.6 it got into hacklib.c 10:48 ah I see 10:54 wow. that's the 8th failure to convert an altar in a row. i've never had anything like this before 10:57 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 10:57 -!- Pavel is now known as sweval 11:03 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:04 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:08 attempt 9 works. attempt 10 fails 11:09 for the record, i am extremely lucky 11:09 well i was 11:09 i am again 11:09 90% failure to convert. something fucked up there 11:10 > For April Fool's Day 2019, NPM releases a stable build of its package manager and is forced to explain to distressed developers that their software working is only a temporary joke 11:23 <{Demo}2> I don't think it can be stable 11:24 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:25 hothraxxa what are you playing to have 90% convert failure rate 11:25 !whereis hothraxxa 11:25 PavelB: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [xnh]: (Arc Hum Fem Law) T:25880 The Quest level: 21 11:26 :O 11:26 xnh arc quest 11:26 one altar still unconverted 11:26 after i fixed my luck last time i gave up. i don't need that altar 11:28 i think in all my previous games ever the longest streak of conversion failures is three, at least as far as i can remember 11:33 i cant remember if aosdict nerfed saccing or not 11:34 He changed artifact-getting probabilities but I'm pretty sure convert probabilities were untouched 11:49 k2: i doubt that he changed altar conversions 11:56 "px4awiz4`afnwk~xp2koqmwa*u}2 B5 Look for a ...ic transporter." 11:56 Grasshopper: sounds like you're playing slex :D 11:56 !who 11:56 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] thelonious [nh362] | [hdf-eu] winsalot [dnh] elenko [nh343] | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh362] 11:56 Message I get in vanilla when descending into the Big Room, which also happens to contain the quest portal 11:57 It was right earlier, but now gone weird 11:58 maybe a virus from slex 11:58 a true STD 11:58 Slex-transmitted disease 12:00 Grasshopper: So the game just spat out some literal random garbage 12:00 LarienTelrunya: It must be S♥L♥E♥X 12:00 ♥S♥L♥E♥X♥ 12:01 PavelB, yes 12:01 -!- gareppa has joined #hardfought 12:01 lost track of variable telling it what to say 12:03 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1704 points, T:2153, killed by an ape 12:49 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:51 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 12:58 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:14 <@Winsalot> ffs got weeping angel contamination and lost my will to fight 😃 13:15 ? 13:15 <@Winsalot> yeah, there are weeping angels from doctor who in dnethack 13:16 Ah 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Tyr, on T:33832 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4847 points, T:2457, killed by a rothe 14:09 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:2312 14:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] kincle (Val Dwa Mal Law), 127567 points, T:35608, petrified by a cockatrice 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:15383 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5379 points, T:3320, killed by an ape 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 624 points, T:832, killed by a gnome 14:57 -!- roja-cat has joined #hardfought 14:58 any interesting changes for this year's junethack rules? 14:59 if name == K2 then ascend == TRUE 14:59 ^ that should be a new junethack rule 15:02 roja-cat on a serious note, I haven't seen bhaak mention anything new so far this year 15:02 not yet 15:02 if you have good ideas 15:02 i posted a good idea 4 min ago 15:03 i think regularly people have mentioned making the "do all the variants" things count variants minus 1 or 2, since there's starting to be so dang many variants 15:03 maybe split it into nh3 based vs nh4/dynahack 15:04 and even 3.4.3 based vs 3.6.x 15:04 yeah, I have been thinking about changing that to just "done n variants" achievements 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:18612 15:06 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 15:07 hm, k2. classic / nh4 / dev versions of each cheevo? could be nice. especially for "can't be arsed" people who hate dealing with whatever thingy is present/missing in the other categories 15:14 dont want to split it up too much though 15:14 imo 15:14 the user view already hides all that you haven't done 15:15 https://junethack.net/user/Therealsog 15:38 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 15:42 hol'up doesn't "do thing in all variants" include "do thing in slex" 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:21720 15:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:8684 15:46 all variants means all variants (except nethack 1.3d, which doesn't have most of those achievements anyway) 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:22055 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2718 15:51 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:56 <@luxidream> ban parking 15:57 no 15:58 i'm not going to spend time trying to figure out which saved games are parked or not 15:58 plus the tournament allows for anything the game can do 15:58 i can save a game ergo its allowed 15:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:22718 16:00 what's the advantage to parking? 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:22741 16:01 most asc in 24 hrs 16:05 <@Tone> It means the leaderboards are pointless until the tourney ends 16:06 then lose that trophy 16:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9021 16:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:26368 16:09 <@luxidream> I agree 16:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26369 16:10 <@luxidream> get killed by foo trophy also needs a fix 16:10 would there be an incentive to park without that trophy? 16:11 or change it to 'most asc in 24 hrs in variant x' 16:11 wouldnt be able to count nh4/dynahack based 16:12 <@luxidream> And Medusa kills in dnethack 16:12 roja-cat no there wouldnt 16:13 not strictly true 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4545 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:23584 16:13 if you wanted to sandbag so another clan wouldn't put on a last-minute push to catch you 16:14 -!- sweval has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14 so without that trophy (which i would call the luxidream cup) i think there'll still be parking 16:15 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 16:15 -!- Pavel is now known as sweval 16:16 not as much 16:16 well... no way to know unless rule is changed 16:16 definitely not 16:16 and tourney starts 16:18 msg k2 is the luxidream ddos ready to go? 16:18 oops 16:18 hahah 16:19 so, the tourney has 2 or 3 phases. at the start, people enthusiastically jump out of the starting gate, sometimes grabbing "first person to do thing" trophies, but generally playership is high. there's a long middle phase where slowbies try to get one ascension, dedicated players grind out several ascensions, and less motivated veterans don't play very much. then there's an end-of-tourney big push. what if achievements took that into account? 16:20 instead of "most ascs in 24 hours" being activel all tourney long, there was a 48 hour window at the end of the tourney, and only games started and finished in that final bit counted for most asc trophies 16:20 and trophies which don't suffer as much from parking or other annoying behaviors, are the ones that stay active all tourney long 16:20 <@Tone> The "get killed by x in the fewest number of turns" needs to be rethought too 16:20 there'd still be luxiparking 16:21 they'd just pull the trigger sooner 16:21 bhaak ^ 16:21 <@Tone> The way it worked with statue doppelgangers completely broke the skill aspect of it 16:21 the nature of nethack players is such that it doesn't matter what the rules are, there will be much effort put into finding ways to game the system 16:21 of course 16:22 and some methods will be worth squashing, some wont 16:22 aye 16:22 <@Tone> and even then getting killed by the oracle or izchak turned into who would get lucky enough to fall through a hole and land next to them 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:23725 16:34 <@luxidream> just checked irclog 16:34 <@luxidream> Bot went down again 16:35 <@luxidream> @mtf 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:24194 16:37 <@Pavel> everything shows up on the irc end 16:40 <@luxidream> yeah that's how I saw it in irclog 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a gnome corpse on an altar of Anhur, on T:3316 16:43 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:25227 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4000 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25287 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2834 points, T:4631, killed by a crossbow bolt 16:52 roja-cat, @luxidream I think the parking is actually not a problem. look at how devnull always tampered off towards the end as it was obvious who would win. in junethack, some of the most hilarious action happens on the last day, sometimes even the last hour. junethack often went out with a bang, not a whimper 16:52 -!- unhold has joined #hardfought 16:52 and as there are so many trophies, you can't do all of them at the last day, so the clan leaderboard is not completely useless. 16:53 I'm really sad that the "get killed by foo" trophy is unsalvagable, it's a really nice idea. but it just doesn't work in nethack. 16:54 how was the end days of tnnt? 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38499 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:38501 16:57 was fine 16:57 parking is a non issue since its just the one version of the game 16:57 there were a couple trophies we changed i think afterwards 16:58 need to revisit 16:58 i killed off those brain cells awhile back 16:59 I mean, were the end days interesting for the players? 17:01 i imagine just the same as junethack... trying to get in that last trophy or achievement 17:02 1st yr tnnt was a close race between 2nd and 3rd place 17:02 came down to wire 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:51918 17:06 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:08 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:38756 17:10 <@IceBox> the bot rarely goes down, right? I'm pretty sure that people on the IRC side can still see these messages 17:10 <@IceBox> like little voyeurs they're just watching, always watching 17:11 yes 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 6207 points, T:5615, killed by a Grey-elf 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dizzylizzy (Val Fem), 664 points, T:704, hobgoblin 17:21 [hdf-us] [slex] dizzylizzy (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 806 points, T:170, killed by a monster (thieving girl) 17:33 -!- roja-cat has quit [Quit: roja-cat] 17:36 @IceBox What is worse, there are fifty-some people in this channel on the IRC side. Though not all of them speak. 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] HAD848 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 16 points, T:218, poisoned by a rotted human corpse 17:52 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:52 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 17:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Menche (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1737 points, T:1809, fell into a pit 18:26 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Rog Vam Fem Cha), 4012 points, T:3386, killed by a giant beetle 18:37 K2: is splice off limits still? 18:37 -!- Lymia has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:02 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 8946 points, T:13441, killed by a winter wolf cub 19:11 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 19:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "uncursed historic greased diluted magic marker named prop. of e.c. segar", on T:27678 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] anestis (Val Hum Fem Law), 871 points, T:2710, killed by a giant spider 19:34 <{Demo}2> happy mixed drinks monday 19:35 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 19:37 and then hangover Tuesday 19:40 <{Demo}2> not if u daydrink pro tip 19:40 <{Demo}2> or earlyevening drink 19:41 -!- unhold has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] anestis (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2778 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:714 20:02 hangover tuesday? 20:02 wut? :P 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 365 points, T:810, killed by a hobbit 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] anestis (Val Dwa Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating an egg, on T:3076 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] anestis (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3102 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] anestis (Val Dwa Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating an ape corpse, on T:3192 20:11 this is ridiculous. dlvl 19, done the quest, been to mine's end, and finished sokoban. not a single unicorn of any kind 20:11 <{Demo}2> ur a healer. right? 20:11 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 20:11 <{Demo}2> oh u did quest nvm 20:11 right now i'm an arc 20:12 <{Demo}2> if a healer does quest they dont turbo need unihorn anymore 20:12 but i'm not. this is xnh and he's nerfed unihorns anyway, but it's annoying 20:14 btw for the record, in any 3.6 variant, the aklys is now a superb weapon 20:14 <{Demo}2> fuck akyls 20:15 <{Demo}2> why is it so good? 20:15 <{Demo}2> the thing it draws on the screen is dumb 20:15 any role except knight can get skilled, and it returns to your hand 99% of the time 20:16 <{Demo}2> how much dmg it do? 20:17 1d6 i think 20:17 1d6/1d3 20:17 beginning game its decent 20:18 for roles like arc and healer, it's now the weapon to get early 20:18 hothraxxa did you see what I did with the archeologist artifact for evilhack? 20:18 if you're like me and not shy about enchanting it, it's great. 20:18 k2: i don't recall 20:19 meaning no, i guess 20:19 initially i changed it to an obsidian saber 20:20 but i changed it again, drastically 20:20 <{Demo}2> nerf grays 20:20 <{Demo}2> nerf sac 20:20 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/8cb18162882e9a3b52508a487b37d6c06ebaa661 20:20 <{Demo}2> lol u think im gonna read that nice try 20:20 di it 20:20 do it 20:20 * K2 waves his hand 20:20 <{Demo}2> add atlatls, those things r dope, my dad made those years ago and learned to use them 20:20 you want to read the link 20:20 READ IT lol 20:20 <@luxidream> seems good 20:21 <@luxidream> the only problem is you'll be wearing a blindfold the whole game to avoid dying to beholders 20:21 <@luxidream> so realistically you'll never throw it 20:21 <{Demo}2> wait u did add it i think 20:21 omg demo 20:21 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 20:21 read it 20:22 @luxidream i modified beholders yesterday 20:22 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 20:22 <@luxidream> yes, I saw that, they seem to retain disintegration gaze 20:22 <{Demo}2> dude i cant read i already told u 20:22 @luxidream yup they do 20:22 <{Demo}2> what does deft hand mean? 20:23 <{Demo}2> oh a quickie 20:23 go back to school weirdo 20:23 <@luxidream> so they are just as dangerous before 20:23 <{Demo}2> zoinks its tethered 20:23 <@luxidream> as before 20:23 @luxidream yes and no 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:55961 20:24 the stoning attack 1) happens much less than in grunthack and 2) it's not instant 20:24 <{Demo}2> whys it tethered 20:24 why not 20:24 <@luxidream> right but the disintegration gaze still kills you instantly on sight 20:24 <{Demo}2> cause thats not how atlatls work 20:24 <{Demo}2> u throw atlatl bolts 20:24 <@luxidream> so what's the point 20:24 @luxidream no it doesnt if you're wearing armor 20:25 i changed that too quite awhile back 20:25 <{Demo}2> atlatls are more like slings or bows than akyls 20:25 <@luxidream> it follows disintegration bolt rules? 20:25 demo yup 20:25 <@luxidream> that's weird but it works 20:25 two words - creative license 20:25 <{Demo}2> two words, thats sad 20:26 whats sad 20:27 <{Demo}2> ur improper creative license 20:27 <{Demo}2> throwing an atlatl at someone is like throwing a bow at somone 20:27 dont use it then if you play evilhack 20:27 anyways 20:27 @luxidream - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/91977c174a5248c956a417380c240bb20180a150 20:28 <{Demo}2> it misrepresents old people 20:28 read at line 2347 in src/mhitu.c 20:28 <{Demo}2> more like cant read cause i never learned lol 20:28 <@luxidream> I feel like gold dragon scales should be badass, they're the best armor in crawl 20:29 <@luxidream> but when I play unnethack it just makes light lol 20:29 fire res too 20:29 permanent light is sort of a big deal yeah? 20:29 <@luxidream> it's a nice convenience, yeah 20:30 <@luxidream> in crawl it gives fire, cold, poison resistance, which is a bigger deal since resistances aren't binary 20:30 hah wow 20:30 semi-chromatic dragon scales 20:31 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:31 evilhack resistances aren't binary either, amirite? 20:32 correct 20:32 they are like sporkhack 20:32 its one of the coolest features in sporkhack imo 20:32 anyway i hope you're getting the balance right, k2. i'd hate to get the unpleasant late game of spork without the redeeming charm of late game grunt 20:33 <@luxidream> I thought the point of evilhack was to screw over the player 20:33 the plan is to release for public play before end of april 20:33 i found spork so annoying in the late game that i won't play it again 20:33 @luxidream no 20:33 well , except for junethack 20:33 its aim is be more challenging than vanilla but not virtually impossible like slex 20:34 challenging but fun 20:34 slex isn't impossible. tariru has won all four of his games 20:34 <@luxidream> are any of us willing to win it? 20:34 <{Demo}2> same hothraxxa 20:34 <{Demo}2> slex is impossible 20:34 i suppose there will be issues upon release; i'm a fledgling coder and no one has played it yet to shake out the bugs 20:34 <{Demo}2> tariru was a plant 20:34 i test often tho 20:34 <{Demo}2> i was gonna work on ndnh today 20:35 <{Demo}2> but then some shit came up 20:35 hothraxxa I said virtually impossible 20:35 tariru isnt human 20:35 <{Demo}2> and then i decided it was mixed drink monday 20:35 <{Demo}2> and now we'ere here 20:35 anyways 20:36 currently working on medusa revamp 20:36 she's boring and weak 20:36 <{Demo}2> do what chris did 20:36 no 20:36 make her pretty 20:36 <{Demo}2> and add a bunch of other brothers 20:36 <{Demo}2> or that 20:36 i dont know what was done in dnh 20:36 doing my own thing 20:36 <{Demo}2> so basically chris wants to add a bunch of other brothers to battle 20:36 which variant gave vlad four wives? 20:36 hah 20:36 <{Demo}2> like echo, symphonia, asswolver, medusa prime 20:36 <{Demo}2> thats dnh hoth 20:37 ah. well that sucked 20:37 <{Demo}2> hothraxxa more like gothraxxa 20:38 hothraxxa you remember that movie from the early 80's, clash of the titans? 20:39 indeed i do 20:39 a mixed bag, that 20:39 <{Demo}2> do u remember when they invented dinosaurs? 20:39