00:00 <bug_sniper> so, just walking up stairs is an ascension in splicehack. Is that a seperate bug?
00:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 141 points, T:499, killed by a contact-poisoned spellbook
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00:08 <aioe> found a marker on a death drop pre castle, got one from a wand, now got -18 AC without any DSM as an atheist so no protection
00:09 <aioe> +5 leather gloves, +5 CoMR, +4 speed boots, +7 elven leather helm
00:09 <aioe> and a +1 leather armor :D
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00:28 <bug_sniper> !who
00:28 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Leggman [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] oh6 [nh362] RedArrow [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
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00:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:31869
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00:55 <aioe>  o - [ a +1 sleep dragon scale mail (being worn - also nice for a vegan
01:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1933 points, T:3447, killed by a plains centaur
01:17 * oh6 ditches this tame arch-lich after fetching the mines stash
01:18 <aioe> ooo. think thats my first time beating the (one of?) new castle level(s) in unnethack
01:44 <bug_sniper> @un?dark one
01:51 <Andrio> Dead
03:00 <PavelB> @? dark one
03:00 <Beholder> Dark One (@) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 claw amulet steal, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -10 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible
03:00 <PavelB> bug_sniper: ^
03:00 <bug_sniper> oh, I see
03:00 <PavelB> Yeah un is the default
03:01 <bug_sniper> the dark one actually looks easy
03:02 <PavelB> Depengs on what that 0d0 cast spell is
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03:06 <bug_sniper> @?archlich
03:06 <Beholder> archlich ~1~ arch-lich (L) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: sheol gehennom | AC: -6 | Attacks: 5d6 touch cold, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -15 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, regenerates, poisonous, undead, covetous
03:06 <bug_sniper> the archlich's spell is probably a lot worse
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03:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1463 points, T:1589, killed by a dwarf
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05:12 <bhaak> aioe: what was that throwing bit? could you elaborate?
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05:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] AmyBSOD (Car Dro Nbn Neu), 8 points, T:3, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/splicehack/dumplog/1552210611.splice.txt
05:37 <LarienTelrunya> rofl
05:37 <LarienTelrunya> it's true :P
05:37 <LarienTelrunya> what a loophole
05:37 <LarienTelrunya> lol I ascended a cartomancer in splice!
05:37 <rld> <@luxidream> quick! "streak" 50 games before it's patched
05:37 <LarienTelrunya> how the hell does such a loophole happen???
05:38 <LarienTelrunya> I mean, how do you mistype "done(ESCAPED)" as "done(ASCENDED)"? especially since in vanilla it already is the former and there is no reason why you would change it...
05:38 <LarienTelrunya> !tell AntiGulp lol I ascended a cartomancer in splice!
05:38 <Beholder> I'm on it, LarienTelrunya.
05:39 <bug_sniper> well, technically you do ascend a staircase
05:39 <LarienTelrunya> "2 blessed super rare spell cards of create monster" hahahahahahaha create monster is "super rare"?!
05:40 <bug_sniper> !who
05:40 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
05:40 <LarienTelrunya> !tell AntiGulp also, in the dumplog says that I'm "AmyBSOD, neutral nonbinary droven (null)"
05:40 <Beholder> Will do, LarienTelrunya!
05:43 <bug_sniper> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Bug_Hall_of_Fame slicehack has now earned a place there
05:43 <bug_sniper> splicehack
05:46 <LarienTelrunya> heh, I edited the page ;)
05:52 <LarienTelrunya> alright I see what happened there
05:52 <LarienTelrunya> apparently the bits got all shifted by one; if I #quit, it says that I escaped
05:52 <LarienTelrunya> let's see what it says if I get killed by a monster
05:53 <LarienTelrunya> hmm that actually says "died"
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05:57 <LarienTelrunya> oh god is there a way to disable all the starting message spam in splice? even escaping past them does not work, unlike the MOTDs in slex that can be skipped that way!
05:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] AmyBSOD (Wiz Wer Nbn Neu) performed their first genocide (wizard), on T:1
05:57 <LarienTelrunya> rofl
05:57 <LarienTelrunya> Goodbye AmyBSOD the (null)...   You panicked in The Dungeons of Doom on dungeon level 1 with 0 points, and 0 pieces of gold, after 1 move. You were level 1 with a maximum of 12 hit points when you panicked.
05:57 <LarienTelrunya> !tell AntiGulp if I genocide myself I get: "Goodbye AmyBSOD the (null)...   You panicked in The Dungeons of Doom on dungeon level 1 with 0 points, and 0 pieces of gold, after 1 move. You were level 1 with a maximum of 12 hit points when you panicked."
05:57 <Beholder> Will do, LarienTelrunya!
05:59 <LarienTelrunya> seems that splicehack is the ultimate bugfest right now
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06:36 <stenno> oof
06:36 <stenno> well that is surely a hall of fame bug
06:40 <LarienTelrunya> fairly sure an actual ascension wouldn't be counted as one because of this bug and might even crash, if "ASCENDED" is the last entry in that bitfield (because it's shifted by one, and would therefore go out of the array)
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07:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] winny (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:15942
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08:40 <Tangles> I've temporarily disabled access to splicehack until the ascend/escape bug is fixed and K2 gets back and decides what to do with the recent xlogfile entries.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
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09:07 <stenno> i just realized that with nodehack, you can have true multiplayer nethack
09:08 <stenno> as in, multiple parties can input into the same session at the same time
09:37 <aosdict> Andrio: [backscroll] Nonbinary blocks all foocubus encounters. As I pointed out on that wiki thread, it probably makes that an optimal configuration for speedrunning or tournament play...
09:37 <Andrio> mm
09:37 <Andrio> that seems a bit offensive.
09:37 <Andrio> Unless you are doing a speedrun or tournament.
09:38 <LarienTelrunya> why would not being able to reach XL14 in time be good for speedrunning, or is that no longer needed in splice?
09:39 <aosdict> LarienTelrunya: Does standard speedrunning rely on foocubus farming?
09:39 <aosdict> Seems like it's too random to work properly.
09:39 <LarienTelrunya> aosdict: dunno, but in my regular games it takes forever to reach XL14 by killing monsters
09:40 <LarienTelrunya> like, sometimes I'm still not XL14 after clearing out castle and valley
09:40 <aosdict> Andrio: Yeah, that's a reason why I see problems with an asexual/bisexual option as I said there
09:40 <LarienTelrunya> and that's with Excalibur's drain res preventing me from losing the levels to the 200 V
09:40 <aosdict> in splicehack the XL threshold is 10
09:40 <aosdict> I think
09:41 <LarienTelrunya> ah, well 10 can be reached fairly easily by normal means :)
09:41 <stenno> i use votd wraiths to level up to xl 14
09:41 <stenno> usually xl 12 after castle
09:42 <LarienTelrunya> well I eat all the wraith corpses too, but sometimes the RNG goes "hahaha you don't get any wraith corpses today" or "hahaha all wraith corpses rot away to nothing today"
09:42 <stenno> i found it to be so reliable that its part of my standard strategy :P
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:2493
09:47 <raisse> The gnome falls into a pit!  The gnome is killed!  A shiver runs up and down your spine!
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10:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:33774
10:35 <raisse> why?
10:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:34393
10:53 <farfar> hah "The goblin escapes the dungeon!" he ded
10:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 111 points, T:361, killed by a sewer rat
11:03 <raisse> wow, another altar
11:03 <raisse> anyone short of altars? I think they were all teleported to my game
11:03 <aoei> dont need 'em
11:03 <aoei> vegan atheist
11:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 985 points, T:1420, killed by a gnome
11:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4165 points, T:4079, killed by a bolt of fire
11:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Mal Law), 5185 points, T:4953, killed by an ochre jelly
11:54 <oh6> so in my last tourist game, I drowned on medusa's level by running across it when my levitation spell was about to run out
11:54 <oh6> and in this game, I'm at medusa with no other means of crossing water
11:55 <oh6> well I guess I have magical breathing
11:56 <oh6> and if I could get a saddle for this black dragon that would be another way
11:58 <{Demo}5> are you skilled or better at it?
11:58 <{Demo}5> if you aren't it could last as little as 10 turns
11:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:38266
12:00 <oh6> I'm skilled and I wasn't an idiot this time so there was no problem
12:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 81 points, T:689, killed by a sewer rat
12:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] GEC (Kni Hum Mal Law), 210 points, T:736, killed by a black pudding
12:06 <bouquet> glad to see it's not just me failing at splicehack
12:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 413 points, T:1435, killed by a plains centaur
12:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:4761
12:30 <raisse> had to go back and pick up the BoH to get teh message :-)
12:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3141
12:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4098
12:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4065 points, T:4100, killed by a watchman, while praying
13:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:3124
13:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] GEC (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:3946
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13:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1009 points, T:2129, poisoned by a killer bee
13:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:7620
13:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7970
13:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3438 points, T:8231, killed by a fire elemental of Thoth, while praying
13:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1888
13:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] muzska89 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1218 points, T:2425, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze
13:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6089
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14:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:6259
14:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3188 points, T:6284, killed by a spear
14:12 <aoei> ooo i got a different VotD this time
14:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Hum Fem Neu), 575 points, T:1942, killed by a water moccasin
14:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:36531
14:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:36532
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14:32 <eraserhead> any devs online?
14:33 <eraserhead> I think I bumped into a bug (but not sure) - I think owlbears are now Y in hdf-362, but when I geno'ed h's, I think the message is still including owlbears.
14:33 <eraserhead> The log has already scrolled past, so I'm not sure if this bug's really there.
14:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2545
14:34 <LarienTelrunya> maybe it said "bugbear"
14:35 <eraserhead> LarienTelrunya: lol - I think you're right (makes a lot more sense)!  plz ignore my note ^^
14:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:8049
14:39 <hothraxxa> [12:06] <bouquet> glad to see it's not just me failing at splicehack
14:39 <Beholder> hothraxxa: Message from K2 at 2019-03-09 06:28 EDT: gh game recovered
14:39 <hothraxxa> bouquet: would you like to guess how many splice games i've lost due to finding save-breaking bugs?
14:39 <hothraxxa> also thanks k2
14:40 <LarienTelrunya> hothraxxa: bouquet and me won some splicehack games due to game-breaking bugs :D
14:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8562
14:42 <hothraxxa> yeah i saw that
14:42 <hothraxxa> good luck with that in june
14:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:6376
14:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] GEC (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:7760
15:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 28314 points, T:10160, killed by a red naga
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15:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:9757
15:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:14520
15:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:11976
15:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered PROF, her faithful kitten, on T:397
15:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12312
15:35 <hothraxxa> G       a gnome (tame gnomish healer called Foo Trice)
15:45 <hothraxxa> Foo Trice picks up a pick-axe. Foo Trice wields a pick-axe.
15:45 <hothraxxa> there's a mithril mattock here. this is what he chooses
15:46 <raisse> wearing a shield?
15:46 <raisse> that would impede wielding a mattock
15:46 <hothraxxa> no, he's not wearing anything
15:46 <raisse> too heavy perhaps?
15:46 <hothraxxa> probably was messing around with a nurse
15:47 <hothraxxa> i was hoping he'd cast healing, at least on himself
15:47 <hothraxxa> so far no soap radio
15:47 <raisse> but did the nurse heal him?
15:47 <raisse> and/or raise his maxhp?
15:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Ran Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3252
15:48 <hothraxxa> heh. that was a joke
15:48 <hothraxxa> i haven't seen any nurses yet
15:48 <hothraxxa> he's got 66 hp
15:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1400 points, T:3265, killed by a kobold lord, while sleeping
15:49 <hothraxxa> i've led him to some nice armour but again, not getting anywhere
15:50 <hothraxxa> anyway, if anyone was gonna have a gnome healer pet, it would be me
15:50 <hothraxxa> he'll get zombified soon i reckon
15:50 <hothraxxa> grunt doesn't like your pet
15:52 <hothraxxa> Foo Trice returns to its original form!
15:53 <raisse> what was it earlier?
15:53 <raisse> a footrice?
15:53 <hothraxxa> no, all my cats are foo something
15:53 <raisse> ah, a cat
15:54 <hothraxxa> so the first one is foo, the second one is foo too, the third one is...
15:54 <raisse> foo trice!
15:54 <raisse> foo quattro?
15:54 <raisse> foo cinque?
15:54 <raisse> foo hex?
15:54 <raisse> foo septem?
15:54 <raisse> don't mind my mixing of languages
15:54 <hothraxxa> the fourth one is usually foo yoo
15:55 <hothraxxa> then foo me, then foo off, then foo de trolls
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16:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1401 points, T:2606, killed by a killer bee
16:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:20095
16:27 <aoei> i really like the fun of identifying the dragon types in unnethack
16:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (mind flayer), on T:21111
16:35 <aoei> oh dear. there's a demogorgon lair level here
16:37 <bhaak> unnethack doesn't have a demogorgon lair
16:37 <bhaak> I think
16:37 <aoei> really?
16:38 <aoei> nethackwiki says In UnNetHack Demogorgon does NOT respect Elbereth. He sometimes appears in his own lair in Gehennom, but this is not guaranteed; the lair takes the form of a small self-contained maze surrounded by a moat of ice. 
16:40 <bhaak> oh, you are right. it's part of the heck^2 levels ... I didn't know that
16:40 <aoei> i thought you made this game
16:41 <aoei> you ought to know xD
16:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 128 points, T:845, killed by a water moccasin
16:42 <K2> another drill weekend done. yay
16:43 <bhaak> that was 10 years ago and I obviously didn't check the large heck^2 patch in detail
16:43 <aoei> fair
16:43 <bhaak> I removed some un-hellish levels later on but never noticed that it has a demo lair
16:43 <K2> also, daylight savings time can suck it
16:44 <bhaak> which is somewhat hilarious as it is the first level in the heck^2 patch :-)
16:44 <K2> grunthack has a lair level for each demon lord/prince
16:44 <K2> i dont recall unnethack having that
16:44 <{Demo}5> not for you, k2
16:44 <{Demo}5> you demon you :P
16:44 <K2> rofl
16:46 <aoei> i think the only extra demon lair for unnethack is Demo, and it's not guaranteed you'll get it in a given game
16:47 <aoei> slash'em also has a lair for each demon lord/prince
16:49 <bhaak> the slash'em ones are boring, though
16:49 <bhaak> grunthack's are better
16:50 <bhaak> if you consider "having demo in every game" a good thing :-)
16:50 <aoei> I'm not sure I consider it a good thing, really, no :P
16:50 <{Demo}5> i belong in every game, put me in instead
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16:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Val Hum Fem Law), 1472 points, T:2754, killed by a gnome king
17:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bag called sack containing 33 items on an altar, on T:4539
17:06 <raisse> lol so specific
17:07 <raisse> next thing: make the altar buc-check every item in the sack, like in xnh (or whatever)
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17:41 <K2> woot
17:42 <K2> permanently deleted facebook account
17:42 <K2> hadnt accessed it in over a year, but it was still in a 'disabled' status
17:42 <K2> pfft
17:44 <bhaak> you're american, so it's still disabled, it just shows "deleted" :-)
17:45 <hothraxxa> k2: i still have a splicehack save with the buggy amalgam in it. perhaps it might help antigulp track down the bug
17:45 <K2> yeah
17:46 <K2> Tangles disabled splicehack earlier this weekend because of the weird 'ascend in one turn' thing
17:46 <hothraxxa> iirc i'm standing on the steps and the white Q is in sight, so the save should know what it is
17:46 <K2> bhaak: dont ruin it ;)
17:47 <bhaak> come and live over here and they have to really delete it
17:48 <K2> !tell AntiGulp message me when you see me next, we need to discuss some splicehack stuff
17:48 <Beholder> AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2.
17:48 <bhaak> that sounds like a good slogan "come and live in Europe and make Facebook hate the GDPR even more!"
17:48 <K2> americans will need a visa to visit the EU now starting in 2021
17:49 <K2> you hear about that?
17:49 <bhaak> no
17:49 <K2> was news over last day or 2
17:49 <K2> when i first read it i was like 'oh shit dont ruin my worldcon trip'
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17:52 <hothraxxa> ok i have a weird grunt bug
17:53 <bhaak> ah, but that's not VISA, that's the same as the EISTA thing the US has
17:53 <hothraxxa> Foo Trice hasn't moved for several hundred turns, but she follows me up/down stairs
17:53 <hothraxxa> she's been zombifying now for about 50 turns
17:54 <hothraxxa> stethoscope shows she's recovering hp 
17:57 <K2> weird
17:57 <K2> in process of being zomby-fied?
17:57 <K2> zombie fied
17:57 <K2> zombie fries
17:58 <hothraxxa> yeah a zombie nearly killed her 
17:58 <hothraxxa> this started a long time before that though
17:58 <hothraxxa> i was in minetown and she attacked a gnomish mage
17:58 <hothraxxa> i didn't see what spell he cast but she's been frozen ever since
17:59 <hothraxxa> i cna whistle her to the stairs and when i go down or up she follows
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law), 355 points, T:1715, killed by a large kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] GEC (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12754
18:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:41628
18:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41630
18:14 <K2> how odd
18:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:8763
18:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:41025
18:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3863 points, T:4460, killed by a soldier ant
18:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3106
18:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3422
18:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 946 points, T:1618, poisoned by a little dart
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19:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11421
19:08 <oh6> #ad
19:08 <oh6> 5ZCCiCJFNNjK0
19:08 <oh6> #ad
19:08 <oh6> 5ZBCiBJFNNjK1
19:08 <oh6> #ad
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19:09 <oh6> um, I'm guessing I pasted piles of macros into the channel and got disconnected again
19:10 <Pinkbeast> <oh6> #ad <oh6> 5ZCCiCJFNNjK0 etx
19:10 <oh6> ah yes
19:10 <oh6> sorry
19:11 <oh6> looks like the server intervened before I actually flooded the channe;
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19:11 <bouquet> K2: did you update splice recently? I just compiled the most recent commit and there wasn't any eating bug for my test monk.
19:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had orcish dagger bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:17534
19:16 <hothraxxa> asshole
19:16 <bouquet> Kos gave me a gift certificate to Applebees. Total dick.
19:17 <hothraxxa> heyyyy, that's what i gave him! he's a re-gifter
19:19 <bouquet> Proves it.
19:20 <hothraxxa> yeah how many applebees gift certificates can there be?
19:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:26106
19:36 <hothraxxa> hm. i'm carrying 42 daggers. that might be too many
19:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] GEC (Kni Hum Mal Law), 90823 points, T:16811, killed by a bolt of lightning
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19:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had runed broadsword named Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:18145
19:41 <hothraxxa> yay!
19:41 * hothraxxa does the happy stormy dance
19:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:27287
20:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:28844
20:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44123
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20:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] Dragonsploder (Gun Bat Mal Cha), 97 points, T:114, killed by a rock
20:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:45050
20:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] Dragonsploder (Div Unm Mal Cha), 3342 points, T:957, killed by a monster (mutant human)
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20:39 <eraserhead> will a cursed tele scroll work on castle lvl?
20:39 <{Demo}5> yeah
20:39 <eraserhead> ty ^^
20:40 <hothraxxa> there's a shop over there with 10 mimics in stock
20:40 <{Demo}5> buy the mimics and resell them to rodney at 100x markup
20:41 <hothraxxa> nah, i have ch 7. he won't even look my way
20:42 <K2> bouquet no i havent. it may break saves
20:42 <K2> plus there amy be some other more serious issues
20:42 <K2> *may
20:42 <aosdict> what do you need to talk to antigulp about?
20:44 <eraserhead> as a vampire lord, I seem to bite >everything< - guess that means I need to avoid c's...
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20:46 <K2> aosdict: there's a significant bug, you can ascend in one turn by escaping
20:46 <K2> did you see Tangles msg in the dev channel?
20:49 <K2> just watched the movie 'Willow' with mini-me
20:49 <K2> she really liked it
20:49 <K2> peck! peckpeckpeckpeck PECK
20:50 <K2> be back in a bit, mini-me's bedtime
20:51 <eraserhead> V Lord is surprisingly fun
20:52 <eraserhead> wonder if I'm still getting xp's while polymorphed
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20:54 <aosdict> K2: Yeah, it just sounded like a "come into my office we need to talk" thing :P
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21:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:45916
21:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:45945
21:04 <eraserhead> lucked out - got 2 from castle throne
21:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a panther, on T:20753
21:21 <eraserhead> Noob-rogue question:  GoP or GoD?
21:22 <eraserhead> I guess GoP...
21:22 <{Demo}5> i always GoP
21:22 <rld> <@Tone> Power
21:22 <eraserhead> ok - thx ^^
21:22 <{Demo}5> might not always be best call
21:22 <{Demo}5> but damn are they nice
21:24 <rld> <@Tone> You might take dex if you wanted more to-hit (why?) or non-metal armor
21:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Mon Hum Mal Law), 2125 points, T:2090, killed by a gnome king
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21:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:46580
21:43 <eraserhead> 8^P  I hate burning a wish for =oLev, but once I reach castle/VoD, it's hard playing without one (no OoWeight, etc...)
21:43 <eraserhead> I'll try my luck to see if I can't find one in VoD before burning a wish
21:43 <{Demo}5> i burn wishes for it while better players (like stenno) dont
21:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 901 points, T:3991, killed by a pony called Belle, while fainted from lack of food
21:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:47116
22:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 404 points, T:1596, killed by a small mimic
22:08 <eraserhead> crapola - got lazy and put on an unIDed helm of opposite alignment (lost all my protection) - do I have to donate $ from the start will donating once bring me back to previous level?
22:09 <Muad> from the start, and you don't get the 2-4 for the first one, I think.
22:09 <eraserhead> well, that sucks 8^P - guess I'll have to make do
22:09 <Muad> there used to be a bug where the change didn't reset to 100%, but iirc that was only relevant in some special case
22:09 <Muad> change=chance
22:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law), 109 points, T:403, killed by an arrow
22:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire giant, on T:13172
22:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] looselystyled (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 786 points, T:1608, killed by a dwarf king
22:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 348 points, T:1087, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze
22:39 <rld> <@Tone> eraserhead: Rings are a great target for polypiling, if you want to try that before using a wish. And the water walking boots at Vlad's could probably make due for a while.
22:41 <eraserhead> Tone: thx for tip ^^
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Urc (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15249
22:50 <eraserhead> Tone: just IDed a polywand - what config/piles do you usually use for ring-poly?
22:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:49333
23:01 <eraserhead> Tone: polypile worked!  It took 1+ wand and many lost rings, but better than a wish - ty ^^
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23:24 <aosdict> What would people think of a change that totally removes price identification (e.g. by making all base prices from an object class the same, like amulets)?
23:25 <aosdict> I feel like half the people would go "thank god, no need to go drop everything in a general store and calculate tiers and name the types" and the other half would go "this is the worst thing ever, how am I supposed to figure anything out now"
23:26 <eraserhead> price ID's kinda annoying, but I'd rather have it than not
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23:28 <rld> <@luxidream> there's still a bit of depth in price ID, imo
23:29 <rld> <@luxidream> I'd rather not have crawl identification in nethack
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23:29 <rld> <@luxidream> scrolls and potions in nethack are fairly dangerous
23:32 <aosdict> define crawl identification
23:32 <rld> <@luxidream> read the biggest stack and hope it's identify
23:35 <aosdict> I mean, I would personally bundle a price ID removal with strengthening of identification mechanics. Making the scroll of identify known from the outset seems reasonable.
23:37 <rld> <@luxidream> you also aren't able to use your identify scrolls as effectively without price ID
23:37 <rld> <@luxidream> since you no longer know item price classes, you can't try to look for specific items
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