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I read the log and thought evilhack were playable now :P 02:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:67648 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4212 points, T:6768, killed by a dwarf 02:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:47074 02:45 @Luxidream: re your YANI that uncursed food shouldn't be rotten: wouldn't it make much more sense if that were the case for blessed food (which is coincidentally also how I implemented it in slex :P)? it makes no sense that blessed food has the same chance of "Bleech! Rotten food!" as uncursed food! 03:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:08 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:30 *killed by my own magic missile :P 03:32 stenno: why did you put archeologist in my mind? :P 03:32 i am sure you will like it 03:39 farfar: human archaeologist is probably the most difficult combination in the early-to-mid game 03:39 but in the endgame they are super OP 03:40 but yeah you will suffer a lot in the early game 03:40 anyway time to go to work 03:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:56 * stennowork at work now 04:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:33 evil idea (won't use the abbreviation in order not to trigger people's filters): cursed throwies get stuck in your quiver 04:35 that's evil indeed 04:38 I got the idea when quivering known-cursed (but not identified-cursed) darts 04:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18611 04:42 heh, I still think there should be two quivers :P you should be able to have a sling in one hand and a bow in the other, assuming that the bow is (somehow) one-handed 04:45 LarienTelrunya, talking about quivers, i have something for you https://i.redd.it/oja3cmggk0721.png 04:46 YEEEEEEEEAH! ♥♥♥ that's fucking awesome!!! 04:46 :D 04:47 -!- UsagiMero has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:43 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:46 stenno, hah 05:46 saw on reddit and had to think of amy immediately 05:46 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:46 =) 05:47 just a coincidence that we happened to talk about quivers right the next day 05:54 also lol, an actual hacker appeared in the nethack subreddit, normally those only ever show up on the #nethack IRC :P 05:56 yeah i reported it 05:56 lets see when it gets removed 05:56 and it's gone already 05:56 gj reddit admins 05:59 for https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2649 I want to add: "EPI: poison damage has a not-even-all-that-low chance of being instantly fatal, because omegalulz we're so gonna laugh our butts off when the players complain". :P 06:00 yeah that would be a valid addendum :P 06:00 also "EPI: hey how about we add a wand of death, which INSTANTLY KILLS THINGS! and monsters can use it too and they can generate anywhere at random! we are teh pwnz0rz!!!!!!!1111einself" 06:39 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed greased fixed magic marker (0:99)", on T:22960 07:15 lol 07:15 just read about slashem gnolls and that they can't actually wear the armor they generate with 07:15 lol why? 07:15 they're large; in order to wear them they'd have to be medium-sized instead 07:16 ah, they're generated with their outgrown baby gnoll armor 07:17 huh, and apparently "gnoll" was originally a misspelling and they're supposed to be a gnome/troll hybrid called "gnole"? 07:19 but 'gnoll' is a perfect hybrid word for 'gnome' and 'troll'! 07:20 * raisse watches elenmirie do the astral grand tour 07:21 wondering why she doesn't have showrace on 07:21 originally, when I first saw that a showrace option exists, I thought it would print something like "gnome" on the bottom status line, instead of transforming the @ into something that looks like a monster! :D 07:22 Why not call them tromes? 07:22 jonadab: Message from aosdict at 2019-02-26 13:39 EST: Should the variant history graph have an arrow from NetHack brass to Fourk? 07:22 aosdict: I'm gonna say probably no. 07:22 In fact, definitely no. 07:22 jonadab: because that looks too much like 'tropes' 07:23 jonadab: will we ever see new monsters added to fourk, like the jitterbug? *bundlebundlebundle* 07:23 raisse: "tropes" isn't actually a word though. 07:23 it is! 07:23 LarienTelrunya: the jitterbug is in Fourk already. 07:23 jonadab: yes, that's why I ask whether you will make other new monsters, considering you already made some :D 07:23 raisse: Only in the peculiar dialect of English spoken on tvtropes.org or whatever that site is. 07:23 the plural of "trope" https://www.thefreedictionary.com/trope 07:23 I've never seen it anywhere else except in reference to that website. 07:24 no, tvtropes used an already existing word 07:24 then you probably don't hang out with writers 07:24 LarienTelrunya: Adding monsters breaks save compat hard, so it can only happen on the bleeding-edge branch, or feature branches that only get merged to bleeding-edge. 07:25 The term trope derives from the Greek τρόπος (tropos), "turn, direction, way", derived from the verb τρέπειν (trepein), "to turn, to direct, to alter, to change". Tropes and their classification were an important field in classical rhetoric. The study of tropes has been taken up again in modern criticism, especially in deconstruction. 07:25 LarienTelrunya: The next set of monsters I want to add are bears; the main thing holding me back is that I am having a really hard time drawing tiles for them. 07:25 jonadab: ah yes, savebreaks, I can actually see how those would be a problem; in fact, they are one whenever I make new monsters for slex :P 07:26 congrats elenmirie__! 07:26 τρέπειν, the infinitive form? Who the hell cites the _infinitive_ form of Greek verbs? 07:26 thanks raisse 07:26 but uggggghhhhhhhhh you voluntarily took the burden of having to draw tiles for every new monster you want to add??? doesn't that slow down the process of adding new monsters to a crawl? :D 07:26 LarienTelrunya: I don't want to add fifty thousand monsters. 07:27 Just a small handful of meaningful ones. 07:27 * LarienTelrunya is happily coding a variant that adds many thousand meaningful monsters ;) 07:27 And yes, Fourk doesn't merge anything that lacks tiles support, on the principle that I don't want to get behind and be in a situation where I have to draw a ton of tiles to get tile support back. 07:28 LarienTelrunya: Yes, Fourk is not slex though. 07:29 oh damn, now I made the mistake of looking at the fourk commits and saw "do not generate lucern hammer", gaaaaaah 07:29 quick! I should play some slex to distract me from negative thoughts! 07:30 LarienTelrunya: Did I mention that "melon" is the default appearance of customizable fruit in Fourk? 07:30 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat you removed the regular melon, whyyyyyy :( 07:30 It was redundant. 07:30 why do you hate variety so much :( 07:31 and flavor 07:31 I am trying to *improve* variety and flavor. 07:31 By making them less redundant. 07:31 ... 07:31 yeah I'm not the type of person who can follow that sort of logic 07:31 Specifically, I want each item and each monster in the game to be *meaningfully* different from each other one. 07:31 So there is *real* variety. 07:31 Not just word salad. 07:32 but it's variety if you kill a nurse and find two melons 07:32 slex managed to make the melon meaningfully different from the pear, apple and asian pear :D 07:32 Muad: That is theoretically still possible. 07:32 LarienTelrunya: And the umeboshi? 07:32 And the plum? 07:32 And the prune? 07:33 And the dried plum? 07:33 heh, I think I did add some fruit types, but not those particular ones 07:34 Let me put it to you this way: I don't feel that most of the new monsters Slash'EM adds, contribute any actual meaningful variety. 07:34 There are exceptions. 07:34 in slex there are, among others: "onion", "welsh onion", "watermelon", "white peach", "bota mochi", "sakura mochi", "kibi dango" etc. etc. I don't even know what those japanese ones really are :P 07:35 also annoyingly I have to leave now to catch my train home, but when I'm back I want to know why e.g. gnolls (yes they exist in slashem) aren't meaningful ;) 07:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:38 morning morning blah 07:51 [hdf-us] [un] ynket (Val Hum Fem Law), 318 points, T:577, killed by a coyote 08:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:24037 08:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of protection", on T:24180 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] tanderson (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1980 points, T:2427, killed by a Woodland-elf, while fainted from lack of food 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] tanderson (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 628 points, T:1731, killed by a giant bat 08:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:26351 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26353 08:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (electric eel), on T:26897 09:07 argh died of new weapon syndrome 09:07 couldn't hit with it 09:10 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22461 09:24 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 09:34 [hdf-us] [4k] Naltrac (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2634 points, T:1527, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28135 10:11 -!- Gaelan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:3584 10:33 <{Demo}5> highcalibur 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 13 darts on an altar, on T:3783 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2760 points, T:3822, killed by a bolt of cold 10:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5622 10:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:3466 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 627 points, T:1537, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:7542 11:04 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:29570 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:9242 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] grumlin (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 249800 points, T:29753, choked on a wraith corpse 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:1364 11:16 -!- oleum has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:18 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 38255 points, T:10025, quit 11:18 -!- oleum has joined #hardfought 11:19 -!- j has joined #hardfought 11:19 -!- j is now known as Guest13741 11:20 -!- Guest13741 is now known as rebatela 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 430 points, T:1002, killed by a manes 11:23 The soldier jabs his spear. The soldier impales you! 11:23 The soldier thrusts his spear. The soldier gores you! 11:23 hahah 11:24 I was playing nethack in class and my english teacher chewed me out for doing my compsci homework in her class 11:24 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 11:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 11:24 "The soldier impales you" sounds like it does a lot more damage than "The soldier hits" 11:24 good 11:25 does it only print "impales" if the damage is high? 11:25 its not damage dependent (yet) 11:25 [hdf-us] [4k] Naltrac (Sam Gia Mal Law), 7326 points, T:1836, killed by a gnome, while unconscious from rotten food 11:25 PavelB: did you reply that you are training your English skills by playing a text based game? 11:26 -!- gareppa has joined #hardfought 11:26 I think you would get *more* chewed out for admitting it's a game 11:26 I rapidly switched terminal tabs to a vim instance where I was talking notes and tried to explain it's possible to write things down in applications that aren't word 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10560 11:27 <{Demo}5> lol 11:27 *taking notes 11:27 aosdict: i'm redoing the descriptive hit messages implementation for evilhack, the original code doesnt fit, especially since vanilla recently setup some framework to do just that 11:27 using (mostly) whats been made available 11:27 PavelB: wait, aren't you in college? what sort of class is a generic "english" class? 11:28 Nope, highschool senior 11:28 Technically it's "World literature" though 11:29 Which is a dumb name because the books we've read so far are *Into the Wild* (American), *Pride and Prejudice* (English), and Hamlet (Also English) 11:29 man now that I'm noting what changes on my personal xnh todo list cause savebreaks, there are a lot of them 11:30 I don't actually know what kind of "english" class they have in college 🤔 11:30 jonadab: Also for the variant graph, would you have an arrow from NetHack: The Next Generation to Fourk (scrolls of consecration)? 11:31 PavelB: Krakauer's into the wild? 11:32 yeah 11:32 interesting. I wouldn't have classified that as world literature 11:32 good book, but I'd expect a class titled world literature would have more diversity in reading material origins 11:33 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34 maybe there will be an australian one next? :) 11:36 I just hope I don't have to read lord of the flies again 11:37 -!- hothraxxa_ is now known as hothraxxa 11:37 I was in different schools for 8th, 9th, and 10th grade and read it each time for class 11:37 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:38 I remember a year where all the literature was themed around DEATH (which the teacher told us with some glee at the beginning of the year) 11:38 [hdf-us] [4k] Naltrac (Rog Syl Fem Cha), 3963 points, T:1202, killed by a giant bat 11:43 I think my most memorable English class was in grade 7 - "speed reading and great books" 11:43 i liked when we read 'kiss kiss' by roald dahl 11:43 penguin books 11:44 including a classrood discussion of "Harrison Bergeron" which concluded that the story was happening on some other planet, and listening to Jeff Wayne's "War of the Worlds". 11:44 classroom* 11:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:45 I like dahl 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 9173 points, T:7647, killed by a leocrotta 11:49 14000 turns and no enchant armor scroll 11:51 Time to max luck and just write it 11:52 and i'm sure i'll find it right after blowing out a marker lol 11:52 how about polymorph 11:53 oh6, isn't that from orwell though? 11:53 er wells 11:54 no polymorph 11:55 i'm trapped in sokoban with a leocrotta blocking my way as well as on the upstair to the branch 11:55 (not really 'trapped' because i have the eye, but -1 ac) 11:57 is there a way to tell your luck without enlightenment? I haven't found a coaligned unicorn yet, but if I sacrifice and stop getting the clovers does that mean it's maxed ? 11:58 or if i get a weapon does that mean anything with regards to luck ? 12:04 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:12 YANI: Non-magical book (encyclopedia?) containing the Horseman's Word. Once you read this book, you can then tame any type of horse by #chatting to it, your riding skill is effectively raised by 1 while you're on a horse (unless you already have Expert), and makes you immune to various riding failures while on a horse. 12:13 <{Demo}5> but why 12:13 possibly replace "horse" with "any u" 12:13 <{Demo}5> I'm a unicorn rider 12:18 stennowork: this was a music album that more or less follows the story of the book 12:20 I recall one bit where the martian's cries of "ulla ulla ulla" were turned into this chorus that broke in several times in one of the later tracks 12:21 i see 12:22 anyway off to work 12:22 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Sam Clk Mal Law), 850 points, T:1803, zapped himself with a wand 12:39 aosdict: I'd say a dashed line from 3.6.1 to unnethack 5.2.0 is missing 12:39 k2: splicehack big room crash again :( 12:39 ok 12:39 one min 12:40 bhaak: that's the one from this year? 12:40 aosdict: yes. actually 5.3.1 in disguise 12:40 heh, xnethack 0.4.1 is 0.5.0 in disguise... 12:41 stenno: there is a very good German conversion of Jeff Wayne's War of the World musical with Curd Jürgen as German narrator. I can give you a copy if you want to. 12:41 oh that sounds great 12:41 that would be apprechiated 12:42 but richard burton... 12:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver triangular amulet on an altar, on T:3442 12:46 anyway stenno, if you haven't heard it i think you'll like it. 12:47 well i know wells' war of the world 12:47 isn't it worlds? plural? earth and mars? 12:47 pedant 12:48 stenno: the music is prog rock sorta. i liked it 12:48 nice 12:48 the plot follows the book fairly closely, unlike the movie versions 12:48 the english version is narrated by richard burton 12:52 wow. reading the wiki article on it. i didn't realize it had taken off like that 13:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 31049 points, T:5653, killed by a caterwaul 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 20494 points, T:6478, killed by a black naga 13:09 aosdict: I was not aware that NetHack:TNG had scrolls of consecration. I invented them independently. 13:10 In fact, the primary motivating factor was the confused effect of creating a magic chest. 13:10 well that's good, because it was tying the graph in knots to have an arrow from the 90s to 2015 13:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Mal Neu) murdered Sirius, his faithful little dog, on T:4113 13:11 aosdict: So what you're saying is, I should pull some stuff from Hack 1.0 for the next version? 13:12 I don't think Hack 1.0 is even on there. 13:12 It starts with NetHack 1.3d. 13:12 Ah. 13:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 415 points, T:836, killed by a giant bat, while helpless 13:13 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:13 I must be thinking of the all-major-roguelikes one that shows "inspired by" arrows from Rogue to Hack and from Rogue to Moria and goes from there. 13:13 ooh I haven't seen that 13:14 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 13:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 292 points, T:385, killed by an acidic corpse 13:16 hothraxxa game recovered 13:17 sorry for delay, work pulled me away 13:19 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:21 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 13:25 phew. found unicorn, maxed luck, wrote EA first try 13:34 stenno: https://bhaak.net/unnuetz/mp3/krieg.der.welten.zip 13:35 downloading 13:35 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:35 thanks a lot bhaak ! 13:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 432 points, T:1003, killed by a gnome 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:17011 13:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:45 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/9d6991c7f07a2999808f845d67f39c3de96a4f54 13:46 ^ new and improves descriptive hit messages 13:46 *improved 13:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:47 > bashe 13:47 > punche 13:47 yes 13:47 why 13:47 look at the code 13:48 %s %ss you! 13:48 some words, plural is just an s 13:48 Ah, %ss kinda blended together in my mind 13:48 others its es 13:49 i'm open to suggestions to improve the description selections 13:49 smashe 13:49 ... yes 13:50 rewrite all the messages in Esperanto 13:50 you don't have it 13:50 smashe was the suggestion 13:50 i dont even know what that is heh 13:50 it's possible that you already know the main theme. it's quite iconic. or even other bits. 13:50 PavelB ah 13:50 i thought i did... ugh 13:50 * PavelB slaps PavelB around a bit with a large blue triggerfish 13:51 uh, nvm 13:51 but slap is also a thing you don't have yet 13:51 i'll move 'strike' to the slash array, add smash to whack array 13:51 oh snap 13:51 slap! 13:52 hmm 13:52 i might add slap to the special martial arts you vs monsters array instead 13:52 already have backhand 13:53 ah slap would go under no weapon 13:53 jab 13:53 [hdf-us] [4k] d (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 5265 points, T:2684, killed by a kitten called "Tigger" 13:53 jab is part of the action description for pierce 13:53 wallop 13:54 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 13:55 esperanto la ultima ola 13:57 piche guey callberone! 13:57 dammit 13:57 'pinche' 13:57 K2: Do you take weapon-specific hit messages 13:58 Because if you hit someone with Cleaver you should butcher them 13:58 a special case could be made 13:58 dunno if i want to go that far 13:59 oh smite 13:59 as it stands, weapons are grouped into their three types of attack damage (pierce/slash/whack) 13:59 whack being your blunt weapons 13:59 smite is reserved for barbarian 13:59 Bonvoro alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo! 13:59 ah 14:00 isn't it usually the paladins (knights) that do the smiting though 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6354 14:01 if you do do artifact specific cases vorpal should snick-snack 14:02 heh 14:03 snickersee would get jealous 14:03 K2: What are bows 14:04 bows and arrows dont fall under this 14:04 in src/objects.c they dont have a P/S/B designation 14:05 devteam defines it as WHACK in objclass.h but the label is B for blunt in objects.c 14:05 heh 14:05 The arrow smacks you! 14:05 ooh... i could create a fourth designator 14:06 you *could* 14:06 currently if it doesnt fall under P/S/B its just 'hit' 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 10217 points, T:7209, killed by a horse 14:06 actually i'd have to make 2 14:06 projectile blunt and projectile tipped 14:07 hmm 14:07 HMMMM 14:09 aosdict alluded to a different message based on the amount of damage it did 14:10 not sure how to do that 14:11 The bugbear slaps you! 14:11 heh 14:12 (rolls natural 1) 'The bugbear lightly caresses your hair' 14:13 LOL, I want evilhack to have messages like "The elf-lady caresses you with her high-heeled leather boots" if she rolls a natural 1 ♥ 14:13 hahahah 14:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3309 14:14 set it up so if there's three critical failures in a row, the monster you're attacking becomes tame 14:14 uncomfortable/curious/new best friend 14:16 PavelB: not sure I like 'slap' as a hit message 14:16 ah ok 14:16 still thinking 14:16 'slap' should be the default hit message for female humanoid monsters without weapons :D 14:16 but it makes me think i'm in a pillow fight or something 14:17 when you nat 1 an intimidate check and seduce your target on accident 14:17 yaaaaaaaaay you should totally add monsters that throw lovely cuddly huggable heart pillows at you! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 14:17 aaaaaand we've gone over the edge 14:17 such a cuddly pillow ♥ "Schmusekissen" ♥ 14:18 LarienTelrunya: Have you considered the fact that you have your own variant in which such features may be implemented 14:19 lol PavelB you're ruining the moment :P I'm just being silly, of course I don't really expect those features to be implemented in evilhack, but I can dream :D 14:19 LarienTelrunya slaps you with a heart pillow! You feel awkward!' 14:19 no you should do it 14:19 port the patch to slex 14:19 extend it 14:20 K2: thanks, implemented that message in slex :) 14:20 (coding right now, that's why I could do it so fast) 14:20 if you wield a ; corpse you should get the /slap message 14:20 @le?trout 14:20 trout (;) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 4 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 1d3 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, swims, amphibious, oviparous, vegetarian 14:21 <{Demo}5> fish kill! 14:21 am I about to find out it does the message already 14:22 oh hey 14:22 darts and shurikens are coded as P 14:22 hmm 14:23 lets see what that looks like 14:24 [hdf-us] [4k] s (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 5940 points, T:3139, killed by a magic missile 14:24 ah the monster would have to wield it 14:24 AND have AT_WEAP 14:24 thrown messages are handled differently 14:25 yup 14:26 src/mthrowu.c 14:26 hmm this is neat - exclam(dam) 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:23895 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 oilskin cloak", on T:23895 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:44985 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44990 14:38 [hdf-us] [4k] Naltrac (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 2430 points, T:871, killed by a Ms. Ennistymon, the shopkeeper 14:39 -!- sweval has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:45184 14:47 [hdf-us] [4k] uhgyti (Tinybehemoth) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2685 points, T:2856, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food 14:48 [hdf-us] [4k] Naltrac (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 1728 points, T:1312, killed by a large kobold, while fainted from lack of food 14:49 ahahah found a bug 14:49 a few objects in objects.c are coded as both P|S 14:49 like knives 14:50 i have an attacker hitting me with a knife, there's no descriptive message at all 14:50 hmm 14:50 couple different ways to fix, one is easy 14:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu), 10589 points, T:7507, killed by a rothe 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:45505 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:45510 14:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Ana Vam Mal Cha), 0 points, T:16, killed by a water demon 14:52 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:53 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:59 [hdf-us] [4k] guthyri (Tinybehemoth) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4719 points, T:1719, poisoned by a rotted floating eye corpse 14:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Ana Hlf Mal Cha), 1144 points, T:2354, died of starvation 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:34559 15:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Ana Dwa Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1784 15:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Ana Dwa Mal Cha), 5550 points, T:3399, killed by a watch captain 15:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 24 points, T:30, caught himself in his own blast 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:24670 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:47361 15:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Kni Hlf Mal Law), 96 points, T:321, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted sewer rat 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1397 points, T:2945, killed by a gnome king 15:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Sam Hlf Mal Law), 176 points, T:190, killed by a water moccasin 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:47587 15:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:47595 15:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:47641 15:39 ok ppl i have decided how i implement --More-- handling 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 709 points, T:1447, killed by a werejackal 15:40 it will be terrible but also cool 15:40 <{Demo}5> I really hope I find time to dick around with nodehack soon 15:40 it's not even feature complete yet 15:41 but --more-- handling is a very important step 15:41 [hdf-us] [un] Som (Val Hum Fem Law), 91162 points, T:13705, killed by a death ray 15:42 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:47799 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:23786 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:47887 15:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Sam Clk Mal Law), 260 points, T:1025, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 15:50 k2: crashed again. i think it has to do with farlook 15:50 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:51 ok 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2532890 points, T:47927, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bartlem/nh361/dumplog/1550614760.nh361.txt 15:51 recovered 15:51 grats! 15:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Sam Clk Mal Law), 591 points, T:743, killed by a water moccasin 15:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Sam Clk Mal Law), 447 points, T:803, killed by a water demon 16:04 thanks. i'll try not using farlook 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:27473 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27476 16:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:6609 16:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Ran Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a winter wolf corpse, on T:6615 16:12 k2: and again 16:12 not farlook this time 16:12 recovered 16:12