00:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:60900 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:60901 00:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:5192 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 T-Shirt", on T:60930 00:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Ring of conflict", on T:60930 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "ring of free action", on T:60931 00:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:61000 00:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:61021 00:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 16041 points, T:8365, killed by a giant zombie 00:42 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 336 points, T:463, killed by a coyote 00:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1116 points, T:1305, quit 00:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 52 points, T:153, killed by a poisonous corpse 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 19950 points, T:11856, killed by an ettin mummy 00:57 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2203 points, T:1608, killed by a statue gargoyle 01:03 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:14 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 01:33 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:35 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:50 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:34779 01:55 EPI: the cursed scroll of remove curse, obviously, curses your items. (It already does that in slex's evilvariant mode, for obvious reasons :D) 01:56 I mean, in vanilla, the cursed potion of gain ability takes away attribute points, and the cursed scroll of charging discharges something 01:58 ...what? since when does the potion do that? I thought it did nothing 01:58 <@luxidream> gain ability just tastes bad 01:58 I mean, once again, in slex's evilvariant mode the cursed potion actually does that, but I had to specifically code that 02:00 EPI: if you read a cursed scroll of charging, there is a chance that the game picks the item that can be discharged, instead of letting you pick. Or bonus EPI: it discharges everything in your open inventory, and if we're really evil, everything in your containers as well :P 02:00 <@luxidream> what if it discharged every item in the game?? 02:01 you mean including ones that haven't even been generated yet? so you come to the castle and the wand of wishing will spawn without charges? 02:02 oh, I thought it did 02:02 never mind 02:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Sam Clk Mal Law), 1081 points, T:1156, killed by a gnome 02:49 [hdf-us] [un] Severian (Sam Hum Mal Law), 67 points, T:111, killed by a black pudding 02:49 [hdf-us] [un] Severian (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:65, killed by a newt 02:58 [hdf-us] [spl] Severian (Dra Hum Mal Law), 8 points, T:18, done in by a sewer rat 03:02 [hdf-us] [spl] Severian (Dra Hum Mal Neu), 319 points, T:258, killed by a magic missile 03:06 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:45 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 03:45 -!- Tangles has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 03:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu), 1718 points, T:2262, quit 04:14 gave it to my pet Elvenking 04:15 he preferred it to the +1 quarterstaff he was wielding 04:15 (this Elvenking is called Poes, he used to be a kitten) 04:15 the Cat King 04:25 R - an uncursed magic marker (0:81). 04:25 quite magic! 04:25 not extremely magic but magic enough 04:26 I was still wielding +0 Magicbane 04:30 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:32 What do you want to eat? [ceo or ?*] ? 04:32 eat the rich! 04:33 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:33 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:34 E - the blessed rustproof +7 Magicbane (weapon in hand) 04:34 that's better 04:35 no, no. we've been through this. who knows what diseases these rich may have. compost the rich and make fertilizer! 04:35 * raisse concedes 04:36 vegetables are yummier anyway 04:48 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:49 next thing to implement in my node bindings are composable actions 04:49 and this will be annoying 04:49 i actually have to _think_ a lot about it :( 04:52 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:59 now I realise I could have written teleport on a cursed scroll (was stuck below medusa) 05:00 but I needed unholy water anyway and I've got plenty of wishes 05:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4338 points, T:3740, quit 05:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5152 06:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7597 06:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 840 points, T:1043, killed by a killer bee 06:25 is the message window the only window with a --More-- prompt? 06:25 i guess it is, right? 06:26 yes 06:26 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:26 thanks 06:26 that makes things a bit more easy 06:27 and only in tty, i think ;) 06:27 yeah i am only considering tty here, thank eris 06:27 (as i am parsing from vt_tiledata) 06:28 i have a few ideas on how to extend the tty code, i will make a feature request once i have a bit of time 06:29 !tell antigulp I farlooked a yellow z and identified as 'it, hiding on the floor'. 06:29 Tangles: Message from @luxidream at 2019-02-24 22:22 EST: known curses bug? armor enchantment doesn't seem to update properly anymore 06:29 Will do, Tangles! 06:30 specifically considering special flags from mapglyph() https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.6.1/include/hack.h#line75 . maybe a MG_PLAYER would be nice, to identify the player character 06:30 right now i think i have to deduce the player tile from specific hilight settings 06:30 something like that 06:32 Hmm I'm going to assume luxidream is talking about the perm_invent window. There's lots of places that need to call update_inventory() that don't. I was going to make a list, but I didn't :/ 06:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9935 06:34 !tell antigulp 'it' turned out to be a drop-bear (still hilarious btw). probably should have been hiding on the ceiling. 06:34 No worries, Tangles, I've got this! 06:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 791 points, T:2448, killed by a dretch 06:43 -!- Luxor has joined #hardfought 06:49 !whereis tangles 06:49 Tangles: [hdf-au] Tangles [spl]: (Rog Inf Mal Cha) T:13002 The Dungeons of Doom level: 11 06:50 infinite rogue 06:50 That's not accurate. I was on level 16 and I just went through a portal to somewhere. No idea where. 06:51 save then reload? 06:51 (and then whereis) 06:51 haha I almost got owned by a walrus. 06:52 coo coo ca choo 06:52 Might come back to that branch when my AC is better :) 06:52 wut it's actually "Goo goo g'joob" 06:52 mind blown 07:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 330 points, T:917, killed by a little dog 07:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 276 points, T:355, killed by a giant rat 07:08 -!- stennowork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 07:22 gah, polyed a pile of rings almost out of existence, and now I'm out of poly charges as well 07:22 at least I got levitation and free action out of it 07:22 a bit fed up with having to kill every V in the valley twice 07:26 sorry, dwarves and hobbits 07:26 didn't have the marker to write two scrolls 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2114 points, T:4207, killed by a dwarf lord 07:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a warhorse, on T:13105 07:36 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 07:44 morning 07:44 morningmorningmorning 07:59 evening 07:59 afternoon 07:59 :) 08:02 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14733 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:17443 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17523 08:13 !asc Noah 08:13 stennowork: [hdf-us] Noah has ascended 2 times in 369 games (0.54%): nh362:1 (5.56%), 4k:1 (0.76%) | [hdf-eu] Noah has not ascended in 1 games. 08:13 nice nice 08:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 25282 points, T:6056, killed by a panther 08:29 *whew* that was hard 08:29 chased him down to the dungeon and had a very hard time getting a scroll of scare monster on the upstairs 08:29 took about 4 potions of holy water to keep it blessed, too 08:30 yeah he can be a pita these days 08:30 Mmm, pita bread. 08:31 worst is when he has a cursed scroll of (uncontrolled) teleport 08:31 oh yes 08:31 or if you confuse him and he then reads an ordinary one 08:32 is xnethack/splicehack on HDF compiled with vt_tiledata? 08:32 oh yeah i tis 08:35 Poes removes a burnt mummy wrapping and puts on a faded pall. 08:35 after he'd been carrying it around forever 08:36 he's now wearing elven mithril, an elven cloak, and dwarf hat & boots 08:36 and wielding Trollsbane, which I'll enchant for him as soon as I get a bullwhip 08:36 it's probably +0 08:57 why trollsbane 08:58 -!- stennowork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01 FIQ: because Thoth gave that to me when I sacrificed to see if I could do a water prayer, and I happened to have it in inventory when the cat tripped the poly trap 09:02 so I gave it to him because it was better than the club he'd picked up 09:03 -!- Guest43536 has joined #hardfought 09:03 -!- Guest43536 is now known as stennowork 09:16 Trollsbane doesn't prevent troll revival if someone else is wielding it, does it? 09:17 aren't the spfx flags only for the player? 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:18754 09:18 troll revival blocking isn't a spfx flag 09:18 oh hm 09:19 ok 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:19339 09:24 so then it's a question of it being implemented in mhitu/mhitm, right? 09:28 he's eating all his trolls so I never see on revive or not :-) 09:28 once a pet starts eating a troll it can't revive anyway 09:28 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:18742 09:32 ...&& uwep->oartifact == ART_TROLLSBANE 09:32 stennowor it's not mhitu or mhitm, yeah 09:33 if the player is wielding Trollsbane when a troll would revive, it doesn't 09:33 the equivalent of what Andrio posted would be looping through all monsters on the level and seeing if any is wielding trollsbane 09:33 and you may see it twitch, so you'll know it tried ti 09:33 to* 09:33 Mm, or keeping track of Trollsbane separately and checking whether it's wielded 09:34 like Sunsword 09:34 that also glows when monsters wield it 09:34 oh i see now 09:34 i understood now, it's not an issue of mhitu/mhitm 09:34 because the code checks when the monster will get revived, not when it dies 09:34 lol I have 3 very different pets and they're all purple 09:34 Is one of them a purple worm? 09:34 the Elvenking, a worm and an Olog-hai 09:34 yes, called Wormy 09:35 or a people-eater? 09:35 heh 09:35 * raisse calls the Olog-hai Tiny (because he isn't) 09:36 they're all people-eaters but I don't think any of them miss an eye or have a horn 09:36 or fly, for that matter 09:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:66406 09:54 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha) wished for "blessed fixed spellbook of identify", on T:19607 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 speed boots", on T:28814 10:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha) polymorphed their first object, on T:20186 10:11 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:13 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha) destroyed Croesus, on T:20274 10:31 [hdf-us] [4k] Gnot a Gnoblin (Naltrac) (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 4140 points, T:1379, killed by a giant ant 10:31 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 10:32 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:29761 10:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu), 498 points, T:1601, killed by a water demon 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:68802 10:50 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:56 [hdf-us] [4k] Cunt (Naltrac) (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 1923 points, T:1252, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food 11:00 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 11:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Sam Clk Mal Law), 872 points, T:1856, killed by a water demon 11:08 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 11:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 gauntlets of power", on T:398 11:18 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:24 [hdf-us] [4k] Stacy (Naltrac) (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 882 points, T:607, killed by a large mimic 11:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:34 ok time to continue with nodehack 11:34 today i will see that i get proper --More-- handling and a base for Actions (which should be composable, but idk how yet) 11:35 fun fact: if you remove certain letters from the "notdnethack" variant name, you end up with nodehack :D 11:36 lol 11:36 in fact, I guess I should put notdnethack on the variants page, after all it has not only been ascended but even streaked 11:37 by whom? 11:37 porkman; he ascended twice in a row, but then unfortunately died on his next game 11:37 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:38 ah yeah that fucker is a really good variant player 11:38 probaly one of the best 11:38 also there's a bug: if you ascend notdnethack, the game segfaults on dumplog creation :P however, the crash happens late enough that the ascended message appears in the chat, so it probably gets written to the xlogfile before crashing 11:39 oh i guess that's still the buggy 3.4.3 dumplog 11:40 huh? you know how that bug is caused? how can we fix it? 11:40 i don't know how it is caused, all i know is that the original dumplog patch is super hacky, and that that was apparently also a reason why it wasn't included in 3.6.0 11:41 i _think_ they completely re-coded dumplog from scratch for 3.6.1 11:41 so maybe just using the 3.6.1 dumplog already fixes the problem? 11:45 'just' 11:45 backporting it to 3.4.3 might be nontrivial >_> 11:45 [hdf-us] [4k] Grunt (Naltrac) (Cav Orc Mal Cha), 3939 points, T:1847, poisoned by a rotted iguana corpse 11:48 * stenno thinks about working around '--More--' by telling DGL that he has in infinitely wide terminal 11:48 mh maybe not 11:48 but that would solve some problems 11:49 infinitely high, infinitely wide 11:49 no more --More--, no more multipage menus 11:50 heh, the dumplog patch in ndnh should actually be the same as in dnethack, and I've not heard about dumplog crashes in regular dnethack 11:50 so it should work... hmm... 11:50 I used to have an 'infinitely' tall terminal, because I misconfigured it to make it report as the height the most lines the terminal would store to scroll up too 11:53 LarienTelrunya: what i mean is that this patch appears in the strangest places and writes stuff to files, so if notdnethack changed something somewhere, this might cause crashes because you wouldn't expect dumplog to do something at that point 11:53 oh I see 11:59 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:23240 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1299 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:29898 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of conflict", on T:29921 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3122 points, T:3488, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted fire ant 12:25 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2337 12:28 LarienTelrunya: I'm debating changing the format of the variant page from a giant table into one section per variant (to get a proper TOC as well as other things) 12:28 aosdict: sounds good to me :) 12:29 cool 12:29 also would you mind if dnhslex was moved lower than position two, I'd prefer to have variants first and then variants of variants second 12:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:30 aosdict: sure, and notdnethack should probably be added in proximity to dnhslex ;) 12:31 iirc LarienTelrunya was of the opinion 3.6.x is a variant of 3.4.3 12:31 rofl 12:32 lol I still am, although that's kind of a joke :P just my way of expessing my discontent with a bunch of 3.6's changes 12:32 *+r 12:32 lol 12:34 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of iron shoes on an altar, on T:4150 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:30975 12:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:39785 12:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) genocided class z, on T:39792 12:44 !tell antigulp asking for more info on bubbly gel results in curses_display_nhmenu: attempt to display empty menu program in disorder 12:44 Will do, hothraxxa! 12:48 <{Demo}5> I am able to ascend ndnh in wiz mode locally and get a dumplog 12:48 <{Demo}5> the ascension doesn't cause the crash 12:48 <{Demo}5> one of the many many many things porkman did in the duration of his play that is reported in the dumplog causes it 12:48 <{Demo}5> a needle in a haystack 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:20639 12:49 that's it, blame the victim 12:50 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:26048 12:50 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26049 12:55 <{Demo}5> what else am I gonna do? I can't blame Chris for this one 12:57 {Demo}5: tell Porkman that the next time he gets close to ascension, he should save the game and then Elronnd or I can give the savegame to you for testing purposes? 12:58 <{Demo}5> I have a save game 12:58 <{Demo}5> I don't think I can use it though 12:58 <{Demo}5> cause yall on freebsd 12:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:03 lol. what did i do? 13:03 destroyed all thing things 13:03 {Demo}5: It's worth a shot, by lucky chance all of the types will be the same number of bytes 13:04 TIL googe translate translates 'spawn' as 'laichen' 13:04 (to german) 13:05 that isn't a cognate of lichen is it? 13:05 <{Demo}5> you played the game 13:06 <{Demo}5> aos I tried 13:09 laichen is the thing that frogs do when they distribute their eggs 13:09 or fish, rather 13:10 SPAWN - [zool] (collection of eggs as deposited by some fish) Laich 13:10 <{Demo}5> can any ; in nethack lay eggs? 13:11 YANI: a frog monster that lays couple million eggs. 13:11 (well, maybe thousand or so) 13:11 <{Demo}5> would be nice on Astral 13:12 {Demo}5: seems like all ; minus kraken and jellyfish 13:15 paxed: and then polyself into the frog monster and flood the level with pets? 13:15 aosdict: wait they can? 13:15 like, #sit ? 13:15 dunno if that works, I'm reading M1_OVIPAROUS flags 13:16 and then equip them all with unicorn horns and lizard corpses to freak the hell out of stenno 13:16 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 13:16 lol Porkman 13:16 i guess i can test that with polyinit 13:17 polyinit into electric eel and then #sit 13:21 [hdf-us] [4k] hi (Tinybehemoth) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2325 points, T:1212, killed by a little dart 13:24 don't see why it shouldn't work 13:25 well isn't that amazing, i learned something completely new about nethack today 13:27 do monsters ever lay eggs on their own volition? 13:27 no 13:29 apparently the fact that an eel doesn't have extremities as such doesn't hinder it to sit down and lay an egg 13:30 YANI: antholes contain eggs of that type of ant 13:32 ^ that mkaes perfect sense 13:32 apparently it explicitely does _not_ work when the eel is in water because then it wont go into the egg-laying block but just print 'you sit in the water' 13:32 stenno: I would have said, you only need an ass to sit :) 13:32 ever dig up an anthill and find a brood chamber/nursery? 13:32 hah true 13:32 <{Demo}5> I hate bugs 13:32 don't mind me, just an eel sitting in the water 13:32 <{Demo}5> gos 13:33 stenno: pls report the bug. 13:33 lmao 13:35 <@strangefella> made it to astral as a caveman 13:35 <@strangefella> mildly very scared 13:38 <@strangefella> ay ascended 13:40 woot 13:42 <@strangefella> 3rd ascension 13:42 <@strangefella> and all of my ascensions, i won at the first altar 13:42 playing online or locally? 13:44 <@strangefella> local 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3987 13:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:39975 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3159 points, T:4095, killed by a coyote 13:46 [hdf-us] [4k] fdnvovjgtgjssipe (Tinybehemoth) (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 1596 points, T:662, killed by a jackal 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:32360 14:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:40001 14:05 grats @strangefella 14:09 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon them by Anhur, on T:28818 14:09 <@Tone> grats strangefella 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:36522 14:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:40034 14:13 [hdf-us] [4k] ouyifgjvhkjiytdkjcgvgyfjgc (Tinybehemoth) (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 6783 points, T:1329, killed by a gray unicorn 14:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Death, on T:40044 14:22 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 540 points, T:811, killed by a giant rat 14:27 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Seafoam bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:25594 14:27 seafoam, huh 14:28 That doesn't sound like a particularly "metal" name for a weapon. 14:29 yay amulet of reflection 14:29 well it's a rustproof trident that grants water breathing, says the wiki 14:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:30 i'm not sure if that's distinguished from magical breathing 14:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:40055 14:32 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:33 Hmm, maybe water breathing doesn't prevent choking on your food? 14:34 (Or drowning in other fluids? Lava? Does Splice have others, e.g. pools of oil?) 14:34 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 764 points, T:1662, killed by a dretch, while helpless 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:32887 14:40 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:37090 14:44 paxed: fyi submitted a bug report regarding oviparous water monsters, ID #H8270 14:45 yup, i saw 14:45 thanks 14:46 ^_^ 14:47 hm i guess i gave slightly the wrong reference 14:47 it's on line 120, not 124 14:47 but the result is the same 14:49 issues with caviar 14:49 yes, or lack thereof 14:51 oh wow: 14:51 C361-111 fixed Monster wearing armor giving resistances loses them during shape change. 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:33508 14:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2615 14:55 oh no the window code got touched recently 14:55 lets see if anything relevant for me was changed 14:56 oh wow SWAGGINZZZ got blown to pieces with those rng changes 14:59 and the dev branch was called 'countermeasures' oof 14:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:11749 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1435 points, T:2595, killed by a rothe, while praying 15:00 damn, a silver scale mail. so close 15:01 <{Demo}5> silver-gray dragon scale mail 15:02 of magic resistance and reflection 15:02 <{Demo}5> what if there was a sandwich race 15:02 <{Demo}5> and your intrinsics were based on the ingredients inside of you 15:04 [hdf-us] [4k] a (Kneejello) (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1604 15:04 and if a cook showed up, you'd have to kill it 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:37756 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an elf zombie, on T:24564 15:06 <{Demo}5> and if ur something gross like peanut butter and pickles then purple worms spit u out 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:33718 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 815 points, T:1701, killed by a gnome king 15:27 hothraxxa: jonadab: Pretty sure it's just magical breathing. Which is a little interesting in the context of a water themed artifact.\ 15:36 it is, i checked the code 15:36 i'm a wizard so not much use to me 15:38 <@luxidream> unwield it underwater and see if you die 15:39 that would depend on where i was 15:41 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 15:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu), 16132 points, T:6900, quit 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:27436 15:53 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:54 @luxidream what normally happens if you take off magical breathing underwater? 15:55 <@luxidream> Never tried it 15:55 okay, you die if not next to land, otherwise you crawl out 15:56 EPI: underwater horned devils that can bullwhip away your Seafoam. 16:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Kni Clk Mal Law), 1024 points, T:4228, quit 16:09 I'm imagining a horned devil in a submarine 16:13 C361-105 fixed Vault guard can get stuck repeatedly saying "Move Along" 16:13 somehow this is funny to me 16:15 nothing to see here 16:16 <{Demo}5> move along 16:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Fem Neu), 277 points, T:970, killed by a brown mold 16:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Death, on T:40085 16:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu), 15103 points, T:4388, killed by an unwound spring 16:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:40087 16:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu), 212 points, T:1014, killed by a water demon 16:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu), 770 points, T:1268, killed by a gnome lord 16:43 aosdict bhaak - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/8cb18162882e9a3b52508a487b37d6c06ebaa661 16:43 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 16:46 great. an artifact spear 16:47 it was either that or a tin opener 16:47 (aztecs also had a thing for tin openers) 16:47 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:28423 16:48 but it being an atlatl is historically correct 16:49 bhaak if you were to create another artifact weapon, what would you choose? 16:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law), 3141676 points, T:40114, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Delraven/xnethack/dumplog/1549399937.xnh.txt 16:51 If I were to create other artifacts, I'd try to focus on tools or armor, probably. 16:51 eh 16:52 there's more than enough powerful armor that exists already 16:52 hmm i know what i'm going to do with dragonbane now 16:52 i switched it to be a spear like every other variant author has 16:53 but i know what i'm going to make it now 16:53 (hint: it rhymes with 'gin fopener') 16:53 a tin opener that gives reflection when wielded 16:53 I can't tell if this is idiotic or brilliant 16:54 hah 16:54 allows eating of medusa tins without concern 16:55 anyways.. gotta go, see you all tonight 16:55 K2: is your dragonbane already a spear, too? 16:55 yeah 16:55 i'm changing it (again) tonight 16:56 (not into a tin opener) 16:56 yasi, Legendary fumble boots, sometimes you trip and fall on top of small enemies crushing them instantly 17:09 -!- greqrg is now known as toneLive 17:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:10 -!- Lymia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 17:14 @luxidream: EPI: an underwater monster that uses a bullwhip. 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] phyphor (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 251 points, T:885, killed by an exploding wand 17:16 -!- sweval has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 27270 points, T:7460, killed by reverting to unhealthy doppelganger form 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh4] Drozdahl (mysteradio) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 20960 points, T:1473, killed by a brown mold 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] phyphor (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 407 points, T:1460, killed by a fire ant 18:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15142 18:49 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 503 points, T:970, killed by a small mimic 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] Drozdahl (mysteradio) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 21432 points, T:2302, killed by a wererat 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:71310 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:34506 19:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17495 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:71573 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:72542 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:36147 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36148 19:36 and magic resistance, finally 19:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh4] Drozdahl (mysteradio) (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 7776 points, T:494, killed by a sewer rat 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 412 points, T:1270, killed by a dwarf 19:45 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:74136 20:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:23462 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 14789 points, T:8786, killed by a mumak 20:01 Curse that mumak. 20:01 It was my fault by waiting 100 turns tho 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:37273 20:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Severian (Mon Clk Mal Neu), 14590 points, T:2724, killed by a spotted jelly 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 4591 points, T:3328, killed by a giant beetle 20:07 Xaleth: when I wait for 99. turns it always stops when a monster appears. 20:07 maybe that's an xnh thing, though? 20:08 Well, vanilla is generally not optimized for QoL stuff, so yeah 20:08 not an xnh specific thing 20:09 <@Tone> Maybe they were waiting next to a corner 20:09 <@Tone> Semi-related: I really dislike how nethack handles stopping for fast travel 20:09 <@Tone> I pretty much never use it because it is disadvantageous 20:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:13 [hdf-us] [fh] phfn (catthedd) (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 5549 points, T:27, quit 20:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:23 [hdf-us] [fh] phfn (catthedd) (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 29871 points, T:1520, killed by a magic missile 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 6870 points, T:4439, killed by a bolt of fire 20:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:48 going to stream some hot "Croesus kills Bouquet" action if anyone wants to see my secret to doing stupid shit and YASDing 20:48 :) 20:48 finally home 20:48 i hate the car dealership 20:48 I LOVE haggling with car salespeople. 20:48 They absolutely hate me. 20:48 hah 20:49 I love being at the car dealership when I'm not the one paying \o/ 20:49 I have allllllll day and they need to sell a car. I can wait patiently and wait for them to arrive at the price I told them I was going to pay when I first got there. 20:49 so my wife bought a new car, got the price all settled yesterday. we go to get it tonight and finalize everything, they tried to slip in an extra 1000 dollars to the total cost 20:49 * PavelB got his first car monday 20:49 *last monday, that is 20:49 hey PavelB congrats! 20:49 grats PavelB. Pop a wheelie! 20:50 if its front wheel drive, do reverse donuts 20:50 Hmm, I actually don't know 20:50 what is it? 20:50 I just know it doesn't have 4-wheel drive 20:50 the new dick move is they don't give you floor mats (even the cheap ones) or a spare tire any more. You have to buy them separately. 20:50 It's a prius 20:50 oh 20:50 its front wheel drive 20:51 no wheelies or donuts in a prius, unfortunately. 20:52 or acceleration 20:52 but, 193.4 mpg 20:52 I have a Chevy Volt and that little thing launches like a rocket when you hit to GO pedal. 20:52 My favorite bit is when they throw in those floor mats "for free" and then as you're haggling they go "Well, we did give you those floor mats" well then they weren't free now were they 20:52 Like, you know they're not actually free, we know they're not actually free, so don't say they're free 20:52 i want the tesla model S that has ludicrous speed 20:53 0 to 60 in WTF 20:53 bouquet: :D go team plugin hybrid 20:53 K2: I would have gotten one of those, but the price is dumb and I needed the room in my garage for my bike trainer. Priorities. 20:54 i tried to talk my wife into getting a tesla 20:54 but she wants an SUV type vehicle 20:54 one of my friends recently told me a story about buying a new car and says he won a tough negotiation by putting his phone back in his pocket 20:54 The model 3 is reasonable. 20:54 and the model X is ridiculous in price 20:54 i'm waiting for tesla to put out a pickup truck 20:54 the X is dumb if you actually take people skiing or biking. There's nowhere for a rack on the roof and a rack on the back isn't going to cut it for all circumstances. 20:55 From what I can tell teslas are the iphones of cars 20:55 imagine 4x4 with that kind of torque 20:55 They looks really flashy but are expensive as fuck and you can get the same thing or better with a less expensive high-end model from another manufacturer 20:55 I got a Highlander hybrid - seats 8 and all the ski gear fits in the roof rack. 20:55 PavelB not all electric you cant 20:55 and not anywhere near the range 20:56 wife just got a new nissan pathfinder tonight 20:56 its got a LOT of room inside 20:56 I guess that range is the real attractive bit, I suppose 20:56 the torque is crazy. Unfortunately my volt tires are skinny little things and can't hold onto the road when I punch it so it always spins out. 20:56 hah 20:56 get phat tires 20:56 racing slicks 20:56 I should! 20:57 next tire change. 20:57 that'll kill your mileage tho 20:57 whevs 20:57 I barely drive 10k/year. 20:57 the volt is all electric right 20:57 plugin hybrid 20:58 bummer 20:58 I think those are a lot better though 20:58 electric engine with a gas powered alternator to charge the batteries when they get low. 20:58 our plan eventually - solar roof with battery array, all electric car. recharge car from power stored in battery 20:58 aboutas clean as you can get 20:58 no gas powered drive train in a volt. 20:59 so yiu * could* recharge the volt from an outlet then if you wanted 20:59 you 20:59 traditional "hybrid" has a gas power train along side a little electric motor. 20:59 That's what plugin hybrid means 21:00 I have 7.5kw solar on the roof that charges everything. I get a check from the gubmint for the excess that I feed back into the grid. 21:00 My Prius goes 25 miles on only electricity but has a range of over 500 miles for those rare cases I need to go somewhere outside the local area 21:01 does it have a gas engine that powers the drive train or a gas powered alternator that generates electricity to charge the batteries? 21:01 when we do the addition to the house in a couple years, the entire roof is being replaced. i want a tesla solar roof 21:01 You know, I'm not sure 21:01 the shingles are the panels 21:01 I cared more about neat features rather than internals 21:01 pop the hood! 21:01 want want want 21:01 (to be in debt forever) 21:01 K2 do they offer tesla roofs in your area? 21:01 why shouldnt they? 21:02 My dream car is a cheap, quirky, and easy-to-fix car that just works and is capable of long distances. 21:02 the sun shines here so.... 21:02 depends if they have installers in your 'hood 21:02 oh 21:02 "certified" installers. 21:02 well. thats what cars are for 21:02 bouquet, I don't have the car until the 10th, actually. I say I got it, but while it's paid for, it's still in the process of being delivered from another state 21:03 that's code for "we need to use it to deliver contraband across state lines while it's in someone else's name" :) 21:03 Hah 21:03 Hah, my neighbor bought a BMW car from craigslist. it took three months for the car to get from Tennessee to Texas. 21:04 My neighbor is remodeling his house and wanted the tesla roof but there weren't any certified installers in our area. I believe there are now, or soon. The people who did my panels are selling tesla batteries and I think they're selling the roof now. 21:04 basically he mailed the original owner cash, and the owner just put off driving to Texas. 21:05 Anyway, it being plug-in hybrid is all cool and all but here's the real killer feature 21:05 heated fkn steering wheel 21:05 hah 21:06 5:55:30 PM PavelB: hardfought.org doesn't keep its credentials in sync and leaks authentication details. 21:06 ^ My failure to convince someone they should switch to hdf from nao 21:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:23915 21:10 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:11 thats fake news 21:11 how exactly, are we leaking auth details 21:11 ask them how it leaks auth - that 21:11 everything is over ssh 21:11 You could also ask them in #perl 21:11 if s/he can prove that, then i'm interested in correcting it. but i dont think they're correct 21:11 *gasp* you publicly made it known that you can get ssh access to hardfought with user "nethack" and no password! 21:12 that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. 21:12 * K2 shrugs 21:13 probably complaining that SSH banner says "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.6p1 Ubuntu-4ubuntu0.2". Must be one of those security through obscurity people. 21:14 if you find out I want to know what their reasons are. Professional curiousity. 21:14 and the dgl credentials are in sync 21:14 i just checked 21:14 eu and au syncs with us every 5 min 21:14 US not us 21:14 you know what i mean hah 21:16 WTF: 21:16 6:13:40 PM PavelB: Because when I try to log in using a username that doesn't exist I get a different response from that which I get when I try to login using a username that does exist but with the wrong password. 21:16 6:13:56 PM ie. I can determine which usernames are extant and which aren't. 21:16 6:14:48 PM The correct response - the *only* correct response - to providing an incorrect username *and* secret combination is "permission denied". 21:16 6:14:48 PM ChoHag: That's public data tho, even on NAO: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/userdata/ https://alt.org/nethack/plrlist.php 21:16 6:14:56 PM Anything other than that is credential leakage. 21:16 K2: any idea if Tangles has a nethackwiki account? 21:16 that's just dumb 21:16 aosdict i dont know 21:17 PavelB yes agreed 21:17 There's also the thing with nao still not supporting passwords over 8 chars 21:18 sounds like someone who makes their living by running nessus scans. 21:18 PavelB we fixed dgl to allow passwords up to 20 characters and its properly hashed 21:18 did that during tnnt tournament 21:18 Yeah but nao didn't 21:19 nao also allows telnet connections 21:19 ease of use 21:20 Meanwhile, I just discovered I can make my life 2x easier by setting NOPASSWD in the sudoers file two days ago 21:22 hey PavelB 21:22 ChoHag messaged me 21:22 Yeah I heard 21:22 he said he's mostly messing with you 21:22 Ah 21:23 heh 21:23 PavelB: that'll change your threat model a bit; if you don't expect anyone to ever get access to your machine while logged in, then great 21:23 K2: you should turn on port knocking to make sure everything is "super extra secure" for your public nethack server! 21:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:25 I *definitely* didn't used to accomplish this by having a plaintext script in my homefolder that executed `echo ` and set that to be my SUDO_ASKPASS for sudo -A 21:26 hmm now that I'm working on the variant wiki page directly... 21:26 "GruntHack is a variant [...] intended to extend and enhance the game's existing behavior rather than altering it in any thoroughly substantial way" 21:26 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:34533 21:27 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34535 21:27 that's actually a lot closer to xnethack's goals than I thought 21:27 maybe xnethack is the good twin and grunt is the evil twin 21:28 aosdict that may have been grunts initial mission statement 21:28 its obvious he drifted away from that a lil bit 21:28 :) 21:28 then https://nhqdb.alt.org/?1494 happened, you mean? 21:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:30 heh 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:38863 21:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:38 -!- toneLive has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:07 [hdf-us] [fh] phfn (catthedd) (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 46185 points, T:5432, quit 23:27 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 23:45 !pom 23:45 bouquet: The moon is at last quarter; new moon in 7 days. 23:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:25696 23:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought