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Like if I dig in a square with no adjacent water squares, I won't drown? 02:00 yep. 02:00 Don't dig next to water 02:00 diagonal squares do count as adjacent 02:00 Or lava 02:00 coolios - thx ^^ 02:01 Bringing a scroll of earth might help too. 02:01 ic - nice tip ^^ 02:01 giants with boulders are helpful too on Juiblex's level, there's usually a few 02:01 hn 02:03 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 12 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30808 02:18 The fiery blade burns the Totoro! wtf @@ - look down - Hallucination 02:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:21 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 02:30 do friendly demons stay friendly even if I'm holding the Amulet? (I'm a bit nervous about coming up with Yeenoghu and Juiblex on the same level - thinking about killing them before I attempt an ascension) 02:32 Pretty sure they do. 02:32 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:33 just don't accidentally hit them. 02:34 ok - sounds good 02:34 they do have a tendency to teleport right in the direction of movement - esp Yeenoghu 02:35 all of them have the same behavior, it's just more noticeable if they have more speed. 02:36 juiblex is so slow he teleports once in a blue moon. 02:36 yup - that's what I've been seeing w/Juiblex - sometimes, he blocks the way and takes forever to move out of the way 02:36 Murder. 02:37 Geryon is the same - last time he showed up, I killed him before he even accumulated enough action points to move. 02:38 is Geryon some demon in a variant of nh? 02:38 nah he's in vanilla 02:39 wow 02:39 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Geryon 02:39 I've never seen him! lol 02:39 He's really shy. 02:39 just very rare to encounter 02:39 Last time I encountered him, all the other lawful demons literally went extinct first 02:39 Except Asmodeus 02:39 I only did because I hung around for the achievement in tnnt 02:40 is Geryon gimped? I don't see any special abilities for him in the wiki... 02:40 I think he's the one with the stunning gaze attack 02:40 oh, ic 02:41 Geryon is the one bonus boss that no one ever worries about because he's so slow and even if he does get an attack off, he deals just a little more damage than a leocrotta ;) 02:41 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2019-02-11 18:50 EST: The pokedex for items comes from xnethack. 02:41 no, stun is baalzebub 02:41 Geryon does nothing. 02:41 good to know ^^ 02:42 ah 02:42 18:41:18 attie: Geryon does nothing. - he doesn't even show up 02:42 rofl 02:42 ^^ 02:42 and if he does, he still does nothing for an inordinately large amount of turns. 02:43 and then if he actually does bother to move, his attack barely does anything. 02:43 to be fair, Jubilex is fairly slow too, so if you have a unihorn you'll usually be able to cure the illness and attack him before he gets another turn. 02:43 an extremely anticlimatic demon prince. 02:43 yeah but the "Ill" status line at least gives you a hint of a frisson. 02:44 Makes it easy to escape him so you can do the Juiblex Express later. 02:45 what's up with the Juiblex Express? (what is it?) I think I came across that in the wiki somewhere... 02:45 and Juiblex' lair adds a drowning hazard (arguably the more dangerous bit.) 02:45 in one of my slex runs I used the Jubilex express to get past Demogorgon and some other prince that Demo had gated in :) 02:45 It's when you let him engulf you with the Amulet and have him warp to the upstairs with you across the no-teleport levels. 02:46 eraserhead: don't kill him, then let him swallow you on the way up. heal, hit him once, wait until he teleports to the upstair. 02:46 You can also drop the Amulet inside him and chase him up the stairs if you're not chaotic; he's affected less by the mysterious force 02:46 woohoo - finally found some c's - hopefully, I can get a drop to rubber-chicken Orcus 02:47 rofl - that sounds hilarious (Juiblex Express) - it still works in 3.62? 02:47 I might have to try it just for fun ^^ 02:48 He does a lot of damage though 02:48 if you let him 02:48 ah - I'm also chaotic - I have MKoT for half damage and a =oRegen to buy some time 02:48 maybe I can also use an amulet of LS for insurance 02:49 just got to keep an eye on the status-line for ILL? 02:49 Make it red and reverse video 02:49 (if playing NetHack 3.6.1) 02:49 hehehe 02:49 I'm playing latest HF, so I think it's 3.6.2? 02:50 mm 02:51 rubber chicken acquired - gonna rush upstairs and take Orcus up the rear 02:52 As long as it's not the wand of death. 02:55 oopsies - getting late - was Baalzebub, not Orcus - Orcus must be deeper - might as well stone B 02:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:33227 03:00 Hmm... ...Vlad's ladder seems to appear on Orcus' level quite often (at least for me)... 03:06 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:33666 03:09 didn't know Orcus had ToD... 03:10 Temple of doom? 03:10 hehe - touch of death 03:10 mm 03:10 thrust of darkness :P 03:11 hahaha 03:12 also, since magic resistance completely negates the touch of death spell, it's basically another wasted filler spell in the monster spell list once you have MR (and if you don't have MR, you're dead :P) 03:16 btw, what's the next easiest toon to ascend, after Val, Wiz, Kni, Bar, Sam? (trying to decide which one to try next) 03:17 I like Rogues 03:17 throw daggers everywhere 03:18 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:19 k - I'll try that next then, ty 03:20 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34240 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34241 03:35 -!- Ytteb has quit [Quit: Ytteb] 03:35 damn, Vlad's buff now - took me down from Xp:15 down to Xp:11 (then back to 12 after kill) - I got sloppy and had to burn a #pray at the bottom of the tower 03:39 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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;) 10:30 and i think i need to start increasing font size on my desktop 10:31 nearsight keeps getting worse 10:31 i have reading glasses en route 10:31 <{Demo}4> why not sleep 10:31 <{Demo}4> should have done a sleep 10:31 cuz i was up fiddle fucking with that last commit 10:31 <{Demo}4> now u have intrinsic restful sleep for the day 10:31 -!- Ytteb has joined #hardfought 10:31 wasnt gonna sleep until i got it working 10:31 heh 10:32 raisse: I didn't say that I didn't believe you. I just said that I (with emphasis on I) couldn't reproduce that with a simple check in wizmode with a wish. don't stop voicing about bugs. if somebody else runs across this behavior, we might be able to pin down what's the missing bit to trigger this bug 10:32 <{Demo}4> if it's fucked, go to sleep and wake up a bit early cause it'll make sense in the morning usually 10:32 never 10:32 progress through suffering 10:33 raisse, you don't have terminal logs, do you? 10:33 no, though hdf probably has a ttyrec 10:33 (don't know which game it was though, I play lots of short games) 10:34 lemme see if i can reproduce it on my test build 10:34 bhaak: I have to apologise about my overreaction because I have bad anxiety about a RL thing right now, and it impacts my thinking 10:34 I can imagine that it doesn't show in wizmode because in wizmode you know more 10:35 <{Demo}4> there are vanilla bugs regarding lava I still need to report 10:35 you are *supposed* to know more 10:35 Wizard mode shouldn't mess with identification, though, unless you use Ctrl+I, right? 10:35 I don't know, never use it 10:35 i can reproduce it 10:36 :o 10:36 wished for a cursed -1 leather jacket, put it on, I see my AC goes up by 1, look in inventory, still just says 'leather jacket' 10:36 I think it is because it doesn't change your AC (but then -2 leather or -3 studded leather or -5 elven mithril would give the same effect) 10:36 err stays same 10:36 not up by one 10:36 but yeah 10:36 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:36 its definitely -1 10:37 raisse: don't worry. I'm more worried about losing a bug reporter than about being the target of an overreaction now and then. 10:37 *does* -2 leather or -5 mithril do the same thing? 10:37 lemme check 10:37 testing with my hobbit :P 10:37 poor hobbit 10:38 wizmode does have a few changes to normal play, but I wouldn't be aware of it affecting AC 10:38 *AC display/discovery/etc 10:38 <{Demo}4> is there a ttyrec? 10:38 I was racking my brain for a way in which wizmode could affect AC 10:38 <{Demo}4> of the incident in question? 10:39 {Demo}4: I think so but as I said I don't know which game it was, I've been killing dozens if not hundreds of gnome wizards lately 10:39 -!- Ytteb has quit [Quit: Ytteb] 10:39 ok -5 shows for elven mithril 10:39 but if K2 can reproduce it at least I'm sure I wasn't hallucinating 10:40 -2 cursed leather jacket still just shows as 'leather jacket' 10:40 the RNG hates leather jackets 10:40 it's a leather jacket bug 10:40 lets try leather armor 10:41 I *think* I had a -2 leather armor a while ago that showed as -2 10:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:41 (it wasn't cursed when I put it on, read a blessed scroll at a whole pile of stuff to try on) 10:42 cursed -2 leather armor shows in inv as -2 10:42 bhaak! you broke leather jackets! 10:43 something that doesn't change AC at +0 (like a T-shirt) does show normally as +0 10:44 I should go back to not doing any commits. this way I 10:44 this way I can't be responsible for any bugs 10:44 hah 10:44 too late 10:44 noooo we like seeing you do ciommits 10:44 commits even 10:45 is it a *vanilla* vanilla bug, or a hdf-only bug? 10:45 if the former I'll report it so there's a record in the proper place 10:47 i would say vanilla 10:48 my build of evilhack is current with 3.6.2 vanilla as of sunday 10:48 same with 362-hdf 10:49 * raisse reports 10:49 K2: keep a vanilla install around for testing purposes. checking now... 10:49 thats too much for my caveman brain 10:49 what steps are you guys doing to reproduce? 10:50 I wished for an uncursed -1 leather jacket and it shows as -1 upon wearing it 10:50 i start a new game in wizmode, wish for a cursed -1 leather jacket, put it on 10:50 i do not ID it first 10:50 cursed one also shows as -1 upon wearing 10:50 hmm 10:50 this build is pure vanilla from git 10:50 how current? 10:50 jan 22 10:51 update it and try it again 10:51 362-hdf build is from feb 10th 10:52 my build is from feb 12th now, beat that! :P 10:52 * K2 gasps 10:52 :P 10:52 weird yeah now I see that 10:52 so something between jan 22nd and feb 10th 10:52 oh, I wasn't up to date with vanilla 10:52 looks like 128d1628a 10:52 cursedness doesn't matter 10:53 done 10:53 oh, I shouldhae waited 10:53 delete that bug please bhaak? 10:54 or make it so it shows -20 every time 10:54 freak ppl out 10:54 the wind blows, you take damage 10:54 the newt looks at you, you take damage 10:54 standing still - take damage 10:54 *shrug* I can stop wearing leather jackets any time 10:55 * raisse surreptitiously pockets a potion of holy water 10:55 heh 10:56 it's definitely this commit but I can't see why 10:59 <{Demo}4> hmmm 10:59 <{Demo}4> looks unpleasant 10:59 leather jackets should increase your CHA as if you're suddenly James Dean. 11:00 ^ that 11:00 <{Demo}4> or terry pratchett 11:00 or The Fonz' 11:01 did terry pratchett usually wear a fedora or was it some other sort of hat 11:01 or indiana jones 11:06 i'm thinking of adding one more player race to evilhack, and I'd like to add something that isnt in any other variant (slex does not count) 11:06 any ideas that you all think would be fun? i'm leaning towards adding trolls 11:07 grunthack already has ogres and kobolds 11:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:10 splicehack already has demon (infernal) and undead (ghoul), a few variants have vampire as a player race 11:10 hmm 11:10 reaching into the archive, there's a "revenant" race which is a sort of undead 11:11 death-magic resistance and all starting gear is scattered around dlvl1 instead of being in your inventory 11:11 <{Demo}4> ndnh has salamander race 11:11 <{Demo}4> im not sure why 11:11 heh 11:11 <{Demo}4> they can do stuff like swim in lava and secrete it 11:11 woodchuck is the obvious answer 11:11 or a nymph race (automatic theft, INFINITE carry cap, but fragile) 11:11 <{Demo}4> woodchuck race! 11:11 was about to say nymph 11:12 omg woodchuck 11:12 <{Demo}4> no do woodchuck and u start with carl as ur pet as well 11:12 no tree glyph is safe 11:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:13 that makes me think of 'Rocket' from guardians of the galaxy 11:13 <{Demo}4> actually fourk already has woodchuck race 11:14 yeah was about to say 11:14 i was looking it up 11:14 scurrier 11:14 Corgi? 11:14 all who see you are instantly charmed. 11:15 centaur might be fun 11:15 <{Demo}4> omg 11:15 <{Demo}4> i was about to suggest that 11:15 :P 11:16 <{Demo}4> i looked out the window, thought man, centaur could be cool, and looked back and it was on my screen 11:16 its 'bare-handed' attack would be neat 11:16 fists plus front hooves 11:16 centuar monk 11:16 *centaur 11:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:17 hmm 11:17 HMMMM 11:17 if you have a humanoid pet, it can ride you 11:17 <{Demo}4> if you add some oddly shaped races, you might want to consider implementing dnh's different shaped armours 11:18 i dont think i'm gonna delve into that 11:18 i like the challenge of giants not being able to wear everything 11:18 oooh i need to test something with hobbits 11:19 and i was debating making them too small for body armor 11:19 <{Demo}4> it gets boring though when all races that cant wear normal armor are basically the same 11:19 but decided against it 11:19 <{Demo}4> like how is grunt giant really that different from grunt ogre? 11:19 well giants can throw boulders, ogres cant 11:19 <{Demo}4> so ogres r literally just suckier giants 11:19 yup 11:20 <{Demo}4> thats boring as shit 11:20 and chaotic, so worse artifact selection too 11:20 <{Demo}4> i figure DIRGE can't be gifted from normal sac? 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] satori (Val Dwa Fem Law), 256 points, T:540, killed by a fox 11:21 You try to move the boulder, but in vain. However, you can squeeze yourself into a small opening. <---- hobbit 11:21 sweet, game already knows hobbits are small 11:21 regardless of carry cap? 11:21 monflags.h 11:22 {Demo}4 no it cant 11:22 you have to sac same race on altar to get it 11:22 <{Demo}4> and be a knight? 11:22 yes 11:22 dark knight (chaotic) 11:22 <{Demo}4> lame 11:22 nope 11:22 aosdict: regardless of carry cap? in what sense 11:22 i dont follow 11:23 <{Demo}4> like say ur a hobbit carrying hella shit 11:23 like, you can always squeeze past a boulder regardless of how much stuff you have? 11:23 oh 11:23 lemme see 11:23 in that case, better prepare for people getting mad about typoing into a sokoban boulder in a wall and losing luck 11:23 no, same restrictions like dwarves 11:24 <{Demo}4> its evilhack 11:24 <{Demo}4> they will have other shit to be mad about 11:24 yeah i dropped all but one piece of armor, cant squeeze 11:24 getting mad because of interface screw is a different type of anger 11:24 <{Demo}4> true 11:25 how about race "Gambler". You luck wildly fluctuates all across the spectrum every turn. One level is full of magic lamps, the next is full of arch liches. 11:25 giants can walk over/push aside boulders that they dont want to pick up, but i added a yes/no to that while in sokoban 11:25 <{Demo}4> bouquet, that sounds like slex 11:25 I guess squeezing is rare enough that you could just unconditionally prompt for "Squeeze into it?" 11:25 its same behavior as a dwarf 11:25 bouquet: gambler sounds more like a role 11:25 i dont see a need to add a paranoid prompt for it 11:26 oh right 11:26 yeah i dont want to add any new roles 11:26 races are enough 11:27 i'm starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel 11:27 in regards to public play 11:27 <{Demo}4> k2 heres something for u to consider https://etherpad.net/p/dNethack_Descendant_Race 11:27 K2: I'm revisiting the hardfought phpbb3 post you made when xnethack first came out 11:28 most of the points now fall under stuff I've done or stuff that I'm not interested in 11:29 [hdf-us] [4k] d (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 2874 points, T:1741, killed by a pony 11:29 or things i've added to evilhack 11:29 yes :) 11:29 i totally forgot about the nazgul thing 11:29 that post is almost a year old 11:29 if you want monsteeds you can get it from splicehack 11:29 already added it 11:30 awhile back 11:30 but nazgul don't ride on dragons 11:30 they ride on weird creepy "fell beasts" 11:30 or black horses 11:30 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/bffbf698ff0990d80d8467ed132f62f6ba745b58 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] satori (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Spot, her faithful kitten, on T:1072 11:31 and then splicehack grabbed that and added it 11:31 [hdf-us] [4k] no (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1025 points, T:566, escaped 11:34 [hdf-us] [4k] stop (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 690 points, T:468, killed by a force bolt 11:34 what is waab's deal 11:34 goofing off 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] satori (Val Dwa Fem Law), 837 points, T:1688, killed by an Elvenking 11:36 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 11:39 wow L has more patches than I thought, and some are really good 11:41 they up at bilious? 11:42 hmm i see 5 11:42 I'm looking at L's site, not all of them are on bilious 11:43 annoyingly, bilious search won't let you search for "L" because it's only one character :) 11:43 i searched by author 11:43 whats his website? 11:44 http://l.j-factor.com/nethack/ 11:45 hah i had to override the work firewall to access it 11:45 IT benefits I guess 11:45 \o/ 11:45 i control it so yeah ;) 11:46 <{Demo}4> lol 11:46 i've seen this site before, its been a long time 11:46 montser ring patch 11:46 sweet 11:47 some of these patches i see in grunthack 11:47 either verbatim or modified 11:47 <{Demo}4> monster ring patch? wonder if fiq has that 11:47 that does sound FIQ-ish 11:48 I doubt it has that implementation 11:48 polysink patch 11:48 thats in vanilla now yeah? 11:48 Losing an ascension candidate to the amulet of unchanging burns a bit :) 11:49 *materials patch* 11:49 <{Demo}4> why did L call nethack brass a demi-variant? 11:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1635085 points, T:119403, killed while stuck in creature form 11:53 Luxor :/ 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] satori (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered the baby crocodile, her faithful kitten, on T:1586 11:54 oh hey vanilla includes a minimal reservoir sampling algorithm in at least one place 11:55 <{Demo}4> does vanilla have the coin flipping patch yet? 11:55 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 49 points, T:49, killed by a rabbit 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] satori (Val Dwa Fem Law), 500 points, T:1809, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 11:55 don't think so, because I added it to xnh and don't recall any merge conflicts 11:55 aosdict I looked at reservoir sampling. compiled some test code 11:55 neat 11:57 L's Itlachiayaque patch is in unnethack 11:57 hah the resistance patch 11:57 sporkhack took it and changed it up 11:57 <{Demo}4> spork took that one to the next level 11:58 <{Demo}4> yeah 11:58 and its in evilhack too 11:58 love that 11:58 <{Demo}4> go away 11:58 one of sporks better features imo 11:58 makes tinning kits a lot more valuable 11:58 <{Demo}4> no, bad 11:59 we fear what we dont understand 11:59 <{Demo}4> we also fear what kills us :P 11:59 heheh 12:00 so... it looks like L had a significant impact on several different variants 12:00 <{Demo}4> yes, i see things that dnh took 12:01 L is active on twitter 12:01 last post 4 hrs ago 12:01 really? 12:01 what handle 12:01 https://twitter.com/webbedspace 12:02 aosdict: it was in fact based off that implementation 12:02 in terms of behaviour 12:02 but code is my own 12:02 those tweets are sort of wonky 12:03 monster ring patch I mean 12:03 L has made several influental patches 12:03 but he has... some views on game design that I strongly disagree with 12:03 such as? 12:04 L probably supports soldiers not being skilled with wands 12:04 well I don't know his views per *se* 12:04 but there are patches that do ridiculous things 12:04 hold on let me get his patch list 12:04 for examples 12:04 was a while back I saw it 12:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:05 well as a patch author and not a variant author, he's free to put out a patch that he wouldn't like himself but would be popular among some players 12:05 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1063 points, T:1868, killed by a jackal 12:05 or vice versa 12:06 and same holds true as a variant author 12:06 you do what ya want 12:06 <{Demo}4> man, L is an entity 12:06 I guess if a variant author is in the same place they could put out a patch and not incorporate it into the variant 12:07 aosdict: of course 12:07 but I think it's rare that authors design patches that they disagree with 12:09 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 351 points, T:572, killed by a gnome lord 12:09 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:09 -!- phinxy has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 93 points, T:273, killed by a fox 12:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 522 points, T:881, killed by a gnome 12:19 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 12:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed magic marker", on T:20385 12:22 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 774 points, T:1314, killed by a grid bug, while helpless 12:30 which file dictates what monsters can/cant wear? 12:32 i see some bits in do_wear.c if you're poly'ed into something 12:32 It's complicated. Their size in monst.c is one of the factors, but no thte only one. 12:32 I have Fourk commits that would be relevant to tracking some of that down. 12:33 grep my git log for armor, especially on the bleeding-edge branch. 12:33 k thx 12:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 962 points, T:1508, killed by a giant ant 12:34 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 24 points, T:113, killed by a goblin 12:37 Hmm, I think I was particularly thinking of commit 0ba2f7f9147d4, not sure if that is actually what you want to know. 12:37 i found some bits in src/mondata.c 12:37 breakarm(ptr) and sliparm(ptr) 12:38 too big (breaks out of it) or too small 12:40 spork doesn't have Itlachiayaque, does it? 12:40 i cant remember 12:40 lemme look 12:40 k2: i was offline for a bit. what's the state of splicehack? 12:41 hothraxxa: it's still splicy 12:41 bhaak: nope it doesnt have it 12:41 i've had some bad luck eith splichack bugs and advnaced characters 12:41 argh 12:41 dnethack has it 12:42 hothraxxa: 0.6.2 is on hdf-us but i havent announced it yet nor added it to the other 2 servers. there's some issues on start up 12:42 i've had some bad luck with typoing 12:42 ok so my game is lost, that much is certain right 12:43 fraid so 12:43 damn 12:43 slex and slashthem has it, too 12:43 was my understanding the fix broke saves? 12:43 better than the one in junenethack though 12:43 ok i am giving up typing for lent 12:43 *junethack 12:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:44 bhaak - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/bc3bd722080a103e08d4534e0ed282c27ed64671 12:44 yes i know. my fingers have been informed 12:44 speaking of... can someone unsticky the november nethack tournament post on reddit? 12:44 yeah 12:44 chop them off one by one. that'll teach them 12:44 unless it's so epic we should leave it? 12:44 cool. then i'l have a use for these fingerless gloves 12:45 K2: why another sword? 12:45 finally read through those L patches. THe magic boomerang is my favorite. 12:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:20412 12:47 bhaak: aztec/mayan legendary artifacts are far/few between 12:48 and its a saber 12:48 K2: no, rather, why another sword artifact, there are already too many of them 12:48 as if a saber by itself isn't already great enough! 12:48 did Chris go back into hibernation? 12:48 i dunno 12:48 artifact tin opener please 12:48 maybe i'll change it so its more like what it was in real life 12:49 but that seemed boring at the time 12:49 last commit in june. at least on master. I need a tool that shows the activity of a git repository over all branches 12:49 he's doing commits to 3.16.1 12:49 there was one earlier today i think 12:50 hmm, I don't see that ... oh, he's committing on dNAO 12:51 Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO 12:51 ah you found 12:57 nice blizzard we're having 12:57 hasnt hit here yet 12:58 soon 13:01 <{Demo}4> ha cold sky ppl 13:06 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:07 we're supposed to get over a foot of snow 13:07 hope so 13:07 loves me some snow 13:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- eraserhead has joined #hardfought 13:13 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:14 Seattle turns into a pumpkin if a single flake hits the I5. 13:15 <{Demo}4> it's sad and rainy here :( 13:15 <3 the rain! 13:16 <{Demo}4> cold rain 13:21 <{Demo}4> someone add weather to nethack 13:22 <{Demo}4> wait a minute this isn't dwarf fortress nevermind don't do that 13:26 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:32 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 882 points, T:1672, killed by a kitten 13:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 115 points, T:266, killed by a jackal 13:34 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 13:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:35 i come home from coding and just start to code more until i fall asleep, and then i go to work again for more coding 13:35 hell yeah 13:36 <{Demo}4> ow 13:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 190 points, T:613, killed by a hobbit 13:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 150 points, T:205, killed by a goblin 13:40 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 13:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 324 points, T:762, killed by a coyote 13:41 coding my own project is the shit though 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:34601 13:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:12521 13:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:12522 13:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 2071 points, T:1687, killed by a hill orc 13:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 16 points, T:262, killed by a fox, while helpless 13:53 sounds like a fun life 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6517 13:54 yes 13:57 i have now finally learned how to continue coding for fun after returning from coding for 8 hours for money 13:57 and that's super awesome 13:57 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 531 points, T:1094, killed by a homunculus 13:57 woooot 13:58 might probably sound super bland for anyone else though :P 13:59 it's your life, only you decide what you want to do with it 13:59 that is a fundamental truth, but enacting this law in reality can be difficult 14:00 if you think you have to do a ranking, there's people who collect their ear wax. those people have lost the control over their life 14:01 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 14:01 ew :/ 14:03 -!- Anerag_ has joined #hardfought 14:04 -!- lonjil2 has joined #hardfought 14:04 -!- probablymoony has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 -!- Anerag has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 -!- lonjil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:05 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 14:05 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 14:05 rip freenode 14:06 i'm afraid to think of what they do with it 14:06 this reminds me of something that showed up on 4chan once 14:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1377 points, T:2060, killed by a baby gray dragon 14:06 never a good thing 14:07 no, and i just decided to elaborate on that any further 14:08 <{Demo}4> stenno that sounds temporary 14:08 what now? 14:09 the programming after programming thing? 14:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 515 points, T:1310, killed by a dretch 14:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a small glob of black pudding, on T:15226 14:15 damn - black pudding counts as meat - LoL 14:15 do you know what black pudding is? :P 14:15 is that some kind of inedible British food? 14:15 yes 14:15 rofl 14:16 there is not much i don't like, but black pudding is one of the things 14:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 578 points, T:1036, killed by a gnome 14:17 it's just an euphemism for 'disgusting black sausage thing (no innuendo intended)' 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:6871 14:17 in Taiwan, there are cakes of pigs blood that are supposedly as popular as hot dogs in the states - tried it once - has strange texture and no taste - never ate it again... 14:18 that doesn't sound good, yeah 14:18 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 114 points, T:668, killed by a rabbit 14:20 black pudding is black because it has blood in it 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased ring of conflict", on T:34809 14:21 yeah it's called 'blood sausage' in german 14:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 239 points, T:600, killed by a hobbit 14:21 Blutwuerstchen? 14:21 lecka 14:21 Blutwurst 14:21 blutwurst 14:21 ah - danke ^^ 14:21 nix lecka 14:22 ekelich! 14:22 sea lecka 14:22 Blut- und Leberwurst und Sauerkraut 14:22 auf keinsten 14:22 now, I know what to avoid if I ever visit Germany - hehe - don't eat all the Wursts! 14:22 i think black pudding is the name for the british variant of blood sausage 14:22 Leberwurst is liver? 14:22 leberwurst is awesome 14:22 the worst liver 14:22 yes, liver sausage 14:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 181 points, T:525, killed by a sewer rat 14:23 my wife loves leberwurst, but then she's german 14:23 I guess I'll try a little bit of Leberwurst once to see if I like it 14:23 leberwurst is great 14:23 if you like liver 14:23 no, not neccessarily 14:23 i like liver, but many don't 14:24 generally, I like liver 14:24 my father is a hunter, we had lots of liver 14:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 25 points, T:179, killed by an orcish spears 14:24 I especially like Ankimo (steamed monkfish liver in sushi restaurants) 14:25 ...unfortunately, monkfish is fugly 14:26 black pudding, durian and some, uh, grilled innards of.. something i ate in japan, are my 3 food items of death 14:26 liver's super-nutrient-rich - actually very healthy for you, if the animal it came from was healthy 14:26 i heard terrible things about marmite too 14:27 liver's like a natural version of a multi-vitamin pill 14:27 liver can be toxic thanks to vitamin a 14:28 yeah - especially polar bear liver 14:28 somehow, the Inuit sussed that out... 14:28 i'm partial to chicken livers with pineapple wrapped in bacon 14:29 why would you kill a polar bear unless you are an eskimo 14:29 we call them inuit 14:29 hothraxxa: that sounds good - thx for the recipe - I'll try that out ^^ 14:30 inuit and eskimos are not the same 14:30 thats like saying holland and the netherlands are the same :P 14:31 well as i understand this issue here, nobody wants to be called eskimo 14:31 In Canada and Greenland, the term "Eskimo" is predominately seen as pejorative and has been widely replaced by the term "Inuit" or terms specific to a particular group or community.[2][5][6] This has resulted in a trend whereby some Canadians and Americans believe that they should not use the word "Eskimo" and use the Canadian word "Inuit" instead, even for Yupik speakers 14:33 * hothraxxa shrugs 14:33 the word is looked down upon by our native peoples and i can't help the way people react to that, but canada stopped using the term some time ago 14:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 2624 points, T:2075, killed by a gnome 14:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 301 points, T:553, killed by a hobbit 14:43 but not everybody who would have been called Eskimo is an Inuit. 14:44 of course, calling them "not Inuit but we don't care enough to find out how you northern ice people who are not scandinavians would like to be called" is also not a good idea 14:44 that's true, and i'm not saying that yupik should be called inuit 14:44 i will not use it if it is offensive 14:45 i'm not sure about how offensive it is. some people think it is but others just prefer it not be used 14:45 Inuits have better PR, I didn't even know until now that there are Yupik 14:45 either way, in canada this has been a big public issue and they've made their feelings know. please don't call us eskimo 14:46 i will also not use it if it isn't supposed to be used 14:46 -!- eraserhead has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:46 what if some would like it to be used and some don't? :-) 14:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:47 bhaak: i would challenge you to find them 14:47 eeh 14:47 i wouldn't take the risk to offend someone over that :P 14:48 this reminds me of the 60s when black people in na wanted people to stop calling them negroes 14:49 well, eskimo seems to be a much less controversial term than negro or nigger 14:49 it probably is 14:51 reading the wikipedia article, I get the impression that you have to find out if somebody likes or dislikes the term by using it. there doesn't seem to be a wide spread consensus 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8933 14:52 fwiw I love black pudding but I hate liver 14:53 I like most German food (unless there's liver in it) 14:54 not for long though, when we were in the Harz for a week when the kids were preteens we all craved pizza after a week 14:54 (so we went to the nearest decent-sized town and had pizza, problem solved) 14:55 s/for a week/on holiday/ 14:56 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:58 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 15:07 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 647 points, T:1701, killed by a dingo puppy 15:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1053 points, T:1163, killed by a small mimic 15:18 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 983 points, T:1412, killed by a homunculus, while helpless 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law), 36772 points, T:12178, killed by a Grey-elf 15:27 more in the leather jacket saga: even my +0 leather jacket (which does change my AC though not by much) shows up in my inventory as "a leather jacket" 15:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:31 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1549 points, T:2906, killed by a giant mimic 15:41 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) murdered Otis, his faithful little dog, on T:912 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 667 points, T:912, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:47 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1147 points, T:1932, killed by a rabid rat 15:56 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3942 16:06 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:10591 16:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:22387 16:10 -!- Muadd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:10 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 16:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22461 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 9936 points, T:5362, choked on a yeti corpse 16:14 Huh, there are a bunch of MR2_* monster intrinsic constants defined, but none are ever used. 16:19 yup 16:19 i tried to use them, once when i started in on evilhack, couldnt get them to work 16:19 but that was when i was just beginning 16:19 aosdict: if you wanted to give the player an extra attack in the same turn, say in src/uhitm.c 16:19 how would you do that 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 440 points, T:1144, killed by a kobold lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:20 i'm trying to grok it 16:23 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:23 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 16:25 i cant see where monsters get their N number of attacks per round on the player (mhitu.c 16:25 ) 16:25 hmmmm 16:27 Isn't it just in the monster stats 16:27 well right 16:27 but whats the function 16:27 having a hard time figuring it out 16:27 I mean, there isn't a function 16:28 so in monst.c you can see how many attacks are assigned to each monster. but where in the code does it execute that? 16:28 i was assuming mhitu.c 16:28 Oh, I see what you mean 16:28 sorry 16:30 I would expect there's a fundamental assumption that the player only gets multiple attacks if polymorphed. 16:30 It could be significantly difficult to refactor uhitm routines to make them work for multiple attacks. 16:31 hmonas() is the function that handles polymorphed-hero-vs-monster combat, including probably multiple attacks 16:32 thanks 16:32 K2: It's mattacku in monst.c that does for(i = 0; i < NATTK; i++) { 16:32 aahh 16:33 reason I ask - kicking around a couple ideas. one is for monk at master or grandmaster martial arts skill (at that level they gain an extra punch or maybe a kick every other round) 16:34 another is for centaurs - just made them a playable race in evilhack. about to push, wanted to see if its possible so that if they attack bare-handed, they use their front hooves along with their fist 16:34 mhitm.c has a mattackm with a bunch of very similar code 16:35 thanks both of you 16:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1572 points, T:1460, killed by a soldier ant 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 742 points, T:1948, killed by a giant bat 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1123 points, T:2718, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping off a magical draught 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 524 points, T:1400, killed by a dwarf 17:21 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Set, on T:64495 17:45 -!- eraserhead has joined #hardfought 17:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:17960 17:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1189 points, T:1511, killed by a rothe 18:00 -!- Porkman has quit [] 18:05 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 363 points, T:941, killed by a dingo puppy 18:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:19125 18:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) genocided vampire lord, on T:19129 18:10 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 409 points, T:1032, killed by a bolt of lightning 18:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 139 points, T:950, killed by a bat 18:18 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Arc Gno Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:39373 18:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:19828 18:34 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 18:35 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 18:38 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 18:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:20096 18:46 weird. I always through free action protected from being grabbed by eels. Wiki says it "doesn't Protect you from any grabbing attacks, including drowning". 18:49 "doesn't Protect you"? 18:49 what page 18:50 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Ring_of_free_action 18:50 under the "does not protect you" section. 18:50 oh that's not a direct quote 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36014 18:51 so... yeah. it doesn't protect you from eel grabbing. 18:51 pretty close to direct. How's this "Free action does not...Protect you from any grabbing attacks, including drowning" 18:52 in any case, TIL. 18:52 Guess I'll hold onto those eelskin cloaks 18:52 lol, oilskin 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:36027 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:36211 19:03 which of you noobs is streaming nethack in ASCII? 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:36314 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:36317 19:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 2605 points, T:3443, killed by a Woodland-elf 19:11 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 470 points, T:982, killed by a rabbit 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased wand of death", on T:36995 19:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed spellbook of charm monster", on T:21318 19:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 297 points, T:931, killed by a small mimic 19:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 450 points, T:1009, killed by a brown mold 19:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 72 points, T:355, killed by a sewer rat 19:28 like, on twitch? 19:31 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 545 points, T:928, killed by a little dog 19:31 yeah 19:32 I've always wanted to try. I could set it up if you want to watch. 19:39 well, it gets all setup then when I go to stream it just crashes. 19:40 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 654 points, T:1205, killed by a werejackal 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:38296 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:38469 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:2818 19:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed Orb of Fate", on T:21893 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3432 19:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:22036 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 4310 points, T:3447, killed by a soldier ant 19:50 aosdict: you said you did something with colors. Is the VoD supposed to be black and white now? 19:50 -!- eraserhead has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 742 points, T:1699, killed by a marilith 19:53 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2107 points, T:3912, killed by a mumak 19:53 two mumakil ambushed me! 19:54 on dlvl 7. seems unfair. i want a rematch 19:54 no wait. a do over 19:55 -!- Ytteb has joined #hardfought 19:58 -!- eraserhead has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:03 -!- eraserhead has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:15 bhaak: I got streaming to work 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 6428 points, T:5302, killed by a snake 20:16 no idea how to point you to my stream, though :P 20:16 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Arc Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:40776 20:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:22908 20:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:26 https://www.twitch.tv/bucket_of_truth/ apparently 20:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:23248 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:50155 20:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:23367 20:35 bouquet: yes, the valley is supposed to be enforced monochrome, rather like the Rogue level 20:35 cool 20:35 except allowing black and white colors 20:36 very chic 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5921 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:41636 20:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:23763 20:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:04 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 31721 points, T:7187, killed by a bull 21:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:43 -!- lonjil2 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 207 points, T:398, killed by a gnome lord 21:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:30365 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1837 points, T:1830, quit 21:49 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] davidkent (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 56 points, T:401, killed by a jackal 21:51 -!- lonjil has joined #hardfought 21:52 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:55 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 21:58 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 14420 points, T:5893, killed by a soldier ant 22:03 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:24469 22:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:24471 22:12 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:17 -!- Ytteb has quit [Quit: Ytteb] 22:19 [hdf-us] [fh] Booda (catthedd) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the ghost of Bletch, the former Novice, on T:1882 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 daggers on an altar, on T:6054 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6093 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:6349 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7186 23:04 -!- sweval has joined #hardfought 23:14 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:26574 23:26 ha! I went through all this trouble to find a 'c' to stone Orcus so he wouldn't waste any charges from his wand of death and a black dragon disintegrates him in 1 shot. Including the wand :( 23:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:26617 23:28 -!- eraserhead has joined #hardfought 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:38742 23:33 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:24842 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:38812 23:38 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:39, on T:27284 23:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:27286 23:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:44, on T:27554 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:38864 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:24862 23:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:27641 23:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:47, on T:27643 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1743776 points, T:38889, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nh361/dumplog/1549736909.nh361.txt 23:46 -!- sweval has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 23:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:27915 23:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:27917 23:47 That was strange. Is there a stretch of time before it's recorded here? https://scoreboard.xd.cm/players/e/eraserhead97.all.html 23:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:38, on T:28328