00:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:50723 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Menche (Mon Hum Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:3292 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Menche (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1818 points, T:3330, killed by a watch captain 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:35575 01:21 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:25939 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25940 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:35645 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:36138 01:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:39 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:36469 02:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:36557 02:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2129948 points, T:36566, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/nh361/dumplog/1549292374.nh361.txt 02:18 -!- lel has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:21 -!- lel has joined #hardfought 02:34 an innocuous-looking copper wand in a box on level 3 02:34 argh, too greedy, got it +0 02:36 +3 isn't that greedy, really 02:36 still too greedy for the RNG 02:38 mm 02:42 DEATH TO ALL ORCSES 02:42 ORCSES KILLED MY KITTY 02:43 * raisse goes into the mines hoping for orctown 02:45 argh elves 02:45 with a potion of sleep 02:45 of course *they* are immune 02:58 *now* I've got orctown 02:58 kitty is AWOL (found a levelport trap) 02:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 03:13 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:50 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 03:53 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:27 <@carlarc> rude 04:35 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 05:04 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:23 killed high priest of moloch, got the amulet of his getting-colder hands. Now I should just run to escape from dungeon level 1 ? 05:24 Ideally using a cursed PoGL to escape the Sanctum, 05:24 Don't forget to pick up the stuff you stashed here and there for this eventuality 05:25 that's my next question, are gems and gold a good addition to the final score? 05:25 the expensive gems i mean 05:25 Ascension score is meaningless. 05:26 Then the only thing i need to pick is some potions of holy water i stashed 05:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:26 Gold detection? Taming? Food? Full Healings? 05:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:34 grrr 05:35 I go upstairs (to a level I haven't been before, fell through a shaft on the way down) and run right into this leocrotta 05:37 -!- Tangles has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:38 Dispater's Lair is worse than Dispater 05:39 I never used Elbereth, but i hink i will make exceptions as soon as i see a leocrotta i will use one 05:39 I carve Elbereth while testing wands but never did defensively 05:43 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 05:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 05:45 Leocrottas are a joke by the ascension run stage 06:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:11 but not for a level 8 char coming back from mines end 06:15 raisse: Indeed, but Luxor said "as soon as i see a leocrotta i will use one" (of Elbereth) and it seems excessive in their case 06:16 ah right 06:16 I wish I'd seen it soon enough to do that though 06:16 but it was go upstairs, the leocrotta hits, you die 06:16 yes now they are 06:16 but when i am starting the game i will auto-elbereth any red q i see 06:17 i would see one and i am 60hp wih AC-3 and it still would kill me 06:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Kni Hum Mal Law), 38880 points, T:10436, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 06:22 Beware, there will be no return! Still climb? [yn] (n) 06:23 <@machinespray> Good luck! 06:23 tx 06:24 death wanded yendor 3 times to get here, which i thikn is reasonable, 06:24 got him 1 more time 06:25 what is my goal here where i am? 06:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed spellbook of identify", on T:18613 06:25 hmm 06:25 <@machinespray> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Plane_of_Earth The wizard always shows up on plane of earth 06:26 <@machinespray> there's a portal somewhere that takes you to the next elemental plane. You have to dig to it 06:26 <@machinespray> (I'm not the best person to be giving advice, I only got my first ascension the other day, so other people are much more experienced) 06:28 It can be fairly close, but I don't think it can be that close. 06:28 Luxor, what version? 06:28 tx, so i have to tracerse the 4 planes 06:28 Well, five. 06:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:36 <@machinespray> Andrio, I think they're playing slash'em 06:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:44 ah 06:51 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 06:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 06:56 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 06:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 07:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:13 ok,made it paste the last elemental plane of water 07:13 i go in and there is an angel of odin hitting me, my god is odin, any reason why his angel is attakcing me? shouldn't it be a pet? 07:14 Immediately? 07:14 If you have conflict, they'll do that. 07:14 It's probably still preferable to use conflict. 07:15 But normally then you get a message and >1 angel 07:15 yeah 07:15 ah just read it, i started in the level generating conflict 07:17 Luxor: And was there more than one angel? 07:27 @messages? 07:31 of course the first 2 altars i goto are not mine 07:32 death reduced my max from 948 to 869 07:37 <@carlarc> thats barely even close to a big deal 07:37 <@kritixilithos> huh that pinged a discord user, ais 07:38 no there was jjust 1 angel 07:41 my own bones with the woodland-elves 07:41 32 years to finish a game, not bad. 07:41 one of them is now my pet 07:41 "In return for thy service, I grant thee the gift of Immortality!" You ascend to the status of Demigoddess...--More-- 07:42 <@carlarc> grats 07:42 started playing it when i was 11 07:42 thanx 07:44 Congrats. :o 07:51 argh my tame elf won't wear this amulet of reflection I keep leaving in his path 07:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 19898530 points, T:242494, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1549049574.slashem.txt 07:54 hey congrats Luxor 07:54 wooo! 07:54 i got 19 mill score, i think i reeelly over-prepared this time 07:54 thank K2 07:57 <@Tone> grats Luxor 😄 07:58 Thanx Rid 07:59 I did try to avoid farming, the only thing i farmed couple times was incubus for levels, 07:59 Odd that the hiscore list lists conducts you failed 07:59 I'm not sure I'd have been Burdened with umpteen gems 07:59 yes, i was about to ask what that list is 07:59 <@machinespray> Congrats!! 08:00 i dont consider foocubus farming to be farming due to the high risk involved and that it does not take that much time. 08:00 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 08:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:13 2 major mistakes i vaporized my mjollnir and vorpal 08:13 1 minor mistake i dropped on the floor 8 potions of full H and 4 potions of Xtra heal and a demon pcked them and ran away with them 08:14 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 08:14 it would have been a major mistake if my max hp wasn't already high 08:14 K2, at some point i want to extend wstty a bit 08:14 ok 08:14 extend it in what way? 08:14 like... could it clean my house? 08:14 argh Thoth didn't think my cursed luckstone was a major problem 08:14 but I can't climb the stairs so for me it is 08:14 the 3.6.1 tiledata sends some flags 08:14 cursed *load*stone 08:15 they didn't get handled yet because they weren't in the 3.4.3-patch 08:15 :/ 08:15 stennowork ahh 08:15 what are those extra flags? 08:15 damn i should've added the list to the wike when i could 08:15 like, "pet", "statue", "ridden", "objectpile" 08:17 i see 08:17 so no extra functions then for washing the dishes 08:18 K2, https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/2b6b4c0833886d3ef9d2ace8a0caf831d1b7636a/include/hack.h#L76-L83 08:18 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 08:18 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:19 black and white lava 08:19 of course my elite nhllapi already supports it :v 08:19 ooh object piles 08:19 so in wstty you could create some css classes for 'effect' and then have a transparent overlay in a specific color for an effect 08:20 neat 08:32 i did so much sourcediving into windowports and display stuff yesterday man 08:33 as expected, it's rather chaotic 08:41 heh 09:04 aosdict I have a question about race variables 09:04 maybe you know 09:04 see https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.2-beta01/src/role.c line 637 09:04 { 2, 0, 0, 2, 1, 0 }, /* Hit points */ 09:04 { 1, 0, 2, 0, 2, 0 } /* Energy */ 09:05 what do those values mean exactly? 09:05 it looks as though maybe the numbers are paired, so 3 pairs each line 09:05 but i dont know for sure and i cant find any documentation about it 09:07 look in the corresponding entries in, uh, you.h? role.h? 09:08 struct RoleAdvance in you.h I think 09:08 the system is pretty complicated 09:08 The 1st, 4th, and 5th levels are HP/PW initially, gained at "low" levels, and gained at "high" levels 09:08 thanks 09:08 you and your common sense... ugh 09:08 i feel like i have the dumb this morning 09:08 for some unknown reason, there's an arbitrary pivot point at XL 12 09:09 It's not XL 12 for every class 09:09 It's not? ROLE_XLEV_CUTOFF is defined as 12 09:09 And; because it's a D&Dism 09:10 <@luxidream> it’s higher for healer 09:10 Not unless that changed since http://www.steelypips.org/nethack/343/hppw-343.html (and the old definitions of high level appearing after the energy bit are still present. 09:10 My guess is 12's the default, but that is pure guesswork 09:11 Also ofc some of these numbers mean n and some 1dn 09:12 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 09:24 * aosdict is tempted to start work on a "making this a sensical system" proposal 09:30 -!- Luxor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:33 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 09:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:35 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13150 09:40 Thranduil throws a crude dagger at someone! 09:40 (he's one of my two Elvenking sidekicks, brought him up from a Woodland-elf) 09:40 didn't name him until he was a king 09:41 oh, now I've got 3 Elvenking sidekicks, Haldir the elf-lord also got a promotion 09:41 <{Demo}3> if my kid was an elvenking I'd name him Charlie or something norma 09:41 I like them to have elvish names 09:41 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Fem Cha), 34909 points, T:13554, killed by a sonic beam, while helpless 09:55 name the next one LarienTelrunya 09:55 that's an elvish name 09:57 <@carlarc> no, it's an evilish name 09:57 I'd do that if female elves turned into ladies and queens instead of lords and kings 10:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:09 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 10:11 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:13 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 daggers on an altar, on T:3169 10:19 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "the blessed Master Key of Thievery", on T:4634 10:26 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 10:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 10:28 argh that was stupid 10:28 trying to kill it when I was at 0 Pw 10:29 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4200 10:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver triangular amulet on an altar, on T:3654 10:45 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law), 5006 points, T:5592, killed by a jabberwock 11:03 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 11:05 -!- Skylord_Guthix is now known as Guthix 11:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:16 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 11:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:42 yesterday i wrote about 500 lines of code from scratch from a mockup and i haven't tested it yet 11:43 now i am too scared to run it 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Set, on T:22491 11:43 dont be scared 11:45 <{Demo}3> yikes 11:45 worst that could happen is it triggers a global nuclear war. 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:22623 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:1411 11:57 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:02 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:12 Who runs NHQDB 12:12 I'd like to file a complain, the RSS feed loses the first newline in each entry, e.g. 12:12 what does the amulet actually look like can we get a canon appearance from the devteam 12:12 like this: " 12:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Law) tasted meat (cave spider) for the first time, on T:3928 12:25 PavelB: I believe that's probably paxed. 12:27 Thanks 12:28 doesn't seem to lose it for me, PavelB 12:30 Also: nhqdb has an rss feed? 12:30 nhqdb.alt.org/?rss 12:32 I guess it *could* be an Akregator bug 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:2443 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:5 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1033 points, T:2661, killed by a giant mimic 12:42 -!- barcabuona has joined #hardfought 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Ran Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 43 arrows on an altar, on T:4327 12:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:53 PavelB: i think the rss feed only contains the link to the qdb entry 12:53 If you curl nhqdb.alt.org/?rss you can see this is not the case 12:53 no wait 12:53 yeah just did it 12:54 The content is all shoved into the description tag 12:54 Rather than the content tag 12:54 Which might be the problem? 12:55 rss has a content tag? 12:55 Might be confusing it with atom 12:55 PavelB: description is required for rss. 12:55 title, link, and description, specifically, are the three required fields. 12:56 Yeah content is an atom thing 12:58 According to StackOverflow, is plain-text only with no markup, and nhqdb is trying to insert
tags 12:58 The physical newlines are there as well, though. 12:59 So I'm not sure what else the feed could do to suggest a line break there, beyond that. 12:59 Must just be an Akregator bug 12:59 just \n ? 12:59 anyway i will run my code now 13:00 lets see 13:00 Given the "phrase or sentence" wording of the spec, I am guessing some rss readers will rewrap the description no matter what you do. 13:00 They might even be within spec to do so. 13:00 * PavelB is currently implementing Atom and RSS feeds for a personal project and is somewhat scared and confused 13:00 what kind of specs is that 13:02 stenno: I'm looking at https://cyber.harvard.edu/rss/rss.html because that's the first result when I google rss spec 13:02 yeah me too 13:02 oh i meant it like, "what kind of terrible spec is this?" 13:02 Eh, it's _simple_. 13:02 Which isn't necessarily bad. It was intended for a simple purpose. 13:03 so according to the description, html is fine in it 13:03 So, what I got is: Atom supports shoving the actual article content in the feed. RSS does not. 13:03 The obvious solution, therefore, is to bug paxed until he adds atom support to nhqdb? 13:03 PavelB: Yeah, I think RSS is intended mainly to give you the links. Hence link being one of the three required fields. 13:04 Description is supposed to be enough info to help you decide whether to go look at the content or not. 13:04 i mean "lol" is just a phrase too 13:04 Atom has a

and tag 13:04 it's a strange phrase but it wouldn't be against the specs 13:05 Note that the link-driven nature of rss makes it good for things like podcasts. 13:05 Where the content is not necessarily in a format the reader would understand anyway. 13:05 `mailto:username nethack on this domain` (from nhqdb.alt.org) is unclear. Is that nethack@alt.org or nethack@nhqdb.alt.org? 13:05 (So it just downloads the files and lets the user play them in a media player or whatever.) 13:06 Also who tf makes a mailto: link with not an actual email address 13:06 PavelB: putting an actual email address in a mailto: link guarantees no human will ever have enough time to read the email sent to that address ever again. 13:07 don't make it a maiilto: link, is what I'm saying 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1571 13:08 PavelB: Well, yes, there's that. 13:09 My current approach is to use CSS positioning to rearrange it into the correct order, so that something scraping the source won't see anything that resembles an email address and definitely won't get the _actual_ email address out of there. 13:10 Unless it's a very clever source scraper indeed. 13:10 doesn't that ruin copy-paste 13:10 Yes, unfortunately, it does. 13:10 at that point just make it an image and hope the scrapers don't have ocr 13:10 But I don't know of an approach that _doesn't_ ruin copy/paste. 13:10 And yes, using an image is another approach I've used. 13:11 The CSS approach can be seen here: http://www.galionlibrary.org/about/staff.html 13:11 The image approach can be seen e.g. here: http://bibleschoolmaterials.blogspot.com/2007/04/contact-us.html 13:11 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 13:12 -!- Skylord_Guthix is now known as Guthix 13:12 Actual image here: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xwRDq9Z_pic/S70jutotF1I/AAAAAAAAASg/hob5I7mrD-Y/s1600/edress-tw.png 13:13 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8jKRm9Cn/image.png 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 2740 points, T:4735, killed by invisible Ms. Akranes; the shopkeeper 13:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Pri Dop Fem Cha), 20482 points, T:12811, killed by a rabid rabbit 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3234 points, T:2440, killed by invisible Ms. Akranes; the shopkeeper 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (cockatrice), on T:81 13:26 PavelB: you could just direct message paxed on irc 13:29 Yeah I did that 13:30 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:33 PavelB: Heh. 13:38 <@luxidream> aosdict: "As of [[NetHack 3.6.1]], the speed of monsters that are not even multiples of 12 have less predictable movement. A monster gets (speed/12) moves per turn plus a (speed%12) chance to move an additional time. For example, a [[mimic]] at speed 3 would have a 25% chance to move per turn, while a [[fox]] at speed 15 would move once per turn with a 25% chance getting an additional move." 13:38 <@luxidream> do you think this is good enough 13:38 <@luxidream> I'm fixing the speed article 13:44 -!- barcabuona has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.3] 13:51 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 13:52 no 13:52 a normal reader won't know what speed%12 means 13:54 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:55 YANI (improvement to the speed system but probably overcomplicated): Every 12 turns, a monster populates an array of bits. Exactly speed % 12 of those bits will be set to 1. On each turn, if the corresponding bit is 1, the monster will get an extra move, and no extra move if 0. When all of the bits are used up, it re-generates a new set. 13:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51531 13:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51534 14:01 aosdict: How do you handle mons with speed>12 14:03 PavelB: That part's easy. 14:03 Nobody has any question really about how to handle the multiples of 12. 14:03 Ohhhh I get it and I'm blind 14:03 It's the leftover part that is controversial. 14:04 And there is no way to resolve the controversy, because fundamentlly there are people who specifically want it to be predictable so they can kite because they think that's interesting tactics, and there are people who specifically want it to NOT be predictable so you can NOT kite because it's tedious. 14:05 Irreconcilable differences of opinion. 14:05 so paxed got back to me 14:05 he replied with a link to the github pull request 14:05 *from 14:05 *form 14:05 which, you know, fair 14:05 but it's written in php 14:06 Rewrite it in Perl, from scratch, and submit a pull request that just completely swaps out the PHP source for Perl source :-) 14:07 you know 14:07 it might just be simplistic enough for that to not be too unreasonable 14:11 there's already a pull request about rss being broken? 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2658 points, T:2892, killed by a gnomish wizard 14:14 aosdict: it got merged already though 14:14 I think this is just something rss doesn't support 14:15 So, atom 14:15 -!- Skylord_Guthix1 has joined #hardfought 14:17 so why is it, when i go into wizmode specifically to find a altar, i'm 17 levels deep and there's no altar anywhere to be found 14:17 I dont remember seeing the memo that stated the RNg could affect wizmode 14:17 -!- Skylord_Guthix1 is now known as Guthix 14:18 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:19 #wizsummonaltar should be a alt command 14:19 now i have 2 holding bags 14:19 :P 14:20 heh 14:20 oh hey an altar 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1095 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1968 points, T:1532, killed by invisible Ms. Akranes; the shopkeeper 14:38 yayyy cold resistance :D 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 380 points, T:237, killed by a wand 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 310 points, T:642, killed by an iguana 14:51 woo, i now know what cancellation is; fingers crossed i don't forget it's there 14:51 it's highlighted orange so hopefully that's a good enough reminder haha 14:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:53193 14:56 brutal. 0:32 mm. 14:56 should have blown the wish on the dang spellbook I wanted anyway 15:00 Need a sanity check for the end game... polyself into a master mindflayer (role=monk), wear body armor, amulet of unchanging, success? 15:01 wiki says there's no penalty for monks if they're poly'd into another monster. 15:01 body armor penalty, that is 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:27902 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27903 15:08 adsf~. 15:08 `. 15:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:25 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Sam Hum Mal Law), 490 points, T:853, killed by a dingo puppy 15:55 leocrotta 15:55 !zap leocrotta 15:56 oh, wrong channel for !zap 15:56 ;-; 15:56 oh well :P 16:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:20 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 6770 points, T:4858, killed by his own magic missile 16:24 HI 16:24 Hello bouquet, Welcome to #hardfought 16:24 woah, hi 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:17845 16:31 -!- Guthix has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had athame named Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:18391 16:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5776 points, T:2795, quit 16:49 <@carlarc> "athame named magicbane" 16:49 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:50 <@carlarc> wait what 16:50 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 75095 points, T:19116, killed by a jaguar 16:53 i cannot disable stdin in a pty 16:53 stdin echo 16:53 rip the project 16:54 this is the most stupid bullshit of all times 16:54 <{Demo}3> owned/rip 16:56 i can't actually believe it so i wasted the last 5 hours or so thinking about how to fix this 16:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1125 points, T:1148, killed by a gnome, while helpless 16:58 so far, looking back at ~30 hours of wasted time just because of this little thing 16:59 <{Demo}3> oh well 16:59 <{Demo}3> wasting time is what keeps things interesting 17:01 no, i am super super pissed off 17:01 it must be solvable 17:01 it's unbelievable that it isn't 17:10 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Cha), 341 points, T:351, killed by a jackal 17:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:22 if my pet worm eats a peaceful priest do I lose divine protection (xnh, specifically)? 17:24 <@carlarc> 99.99999999999% no 17:25 does killing Keystone Kops cause me to lose divine protection? 17:25 <@carlarc> no 17:25 my worm cleared out minetown for me. I never laid a finger on any shopkeepers or watchmen. (I stole something poorly) 17:25 <@carlarc> generally you only need to worry about divine protection if you pray when the timeout is too early 17:25 <@carlarc> then you lose all of it 17:27 weird. I'll have to keep an eye on it. Not sure where it all went. Fortunately, there's a few more priests in case I need to get my money back from the last one. 17:28 <@carlarc> if you get the message "your god is displeased" when praying it all goes away 17:28 <@carlarc> kinda dumb 18:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4442 18:32 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Cha), 23352 points, T:8401, killed by a water elemental 18:37 -!- UsagiMero has joined #hardfought 18:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed Orb of Fate", on T:56949 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 512 points, T:1102, killed by a magic missile 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:6054 18:46 <{Demo}3> im gonna drink a floating eye's eye juices 18:50 !who 18:50 PavelB: [hdf-us] gatherer [nh362] catthedd [fh] bouquet [xnh] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] galadriel [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 19:38 K2: [backscroll] You know you can just wish for altars in wizard mode, right? 19:39 @carlarc There are other ways to lose divine protection (in vanilla); specifically angering _any_ god will lose it. That includes stuff like attacking priests. 19:42 aosdict: but gods are a-ok if my pet kills the priest, right? 19:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:50 <@luxidream> aosdict: weirdly enough, fighting the priests of other gods doesn't remove divine protection, but you're right about other means of angering them, like sacrificing pets, etc 19:51 <@luxidream> I kill priests all the time to get my money back 19:58 just trying to figure out where my divine prot went earlier. I managed to get it all back, fortunately. 19:58 only naughty thing I did was stealing. 19:58 bouquet: As far as I know, you're never held responsible for your pet's actions. 19:59 that's a tenet in vanilla, that I didn't change obviously 20:13 -!- Cullran has joined #hardfought 20:13 -!- Cullran has left #hardfought 20:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:18 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:33 YANI: Some charged items recharge themselves slowly over time (up to some reasonable max). Good candidates include horns of plenty, crystal balls, probably most charged tools, but not rings or wands. 20:35 Other YANI: If the above is implemented, magic whistles can be made a charged tool that recharges fairly fast. 20:37 aosdict no i didnt know that 20:37 cool 20:48 <@carlarc> dunno why magic whistles need to be charged 20:48 <@carlarc> pets are already tedious as-is 20:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:43, on T:58564 20:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:58566 20:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane (catthedd) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 43784 points, T:8465, killed by a blast of disintegration 20:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:59062 21:00 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had orcish dagger bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:9793 21:01 *facepalm* 21:03 oh it has warning. i'll take that 21:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:59407 21:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:59415 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4343 points, T:2958, killed by a gnome 21:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:49, on T:59527 21:09 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:40, on T:59900 21:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:31, on T:60285 21:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 21:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:09 -!- ogru has joined #hardfought 22:09 -!- ogru has left #hardfought 22:39 -!- Strozill has joined #hardfought 22:39 -!- Strozill has left #hardfought 22:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] phyphor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3616 points, T:1845, killed by a soldier ant 22:41 K2: you can even wish for its alignment 22:41 "lawful altar" etc 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 583 points, T:1516, killed by an elf zombie, while fainted from lack of food 22:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] phyphor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 209 points, T:323, killed by a bat 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 544 points, T:1081, killed by a gnome lord 23:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:60964 23:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:61777 23:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor in the End Game, on T:61780 23:28 !whereis bouquet 23:28 PavelB: [hdf-us] bouquet [xnh]: (Mon Hum Fem Neu) T:61777 The Elemental Planes level: -1 (with Amulet) 23:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor in the End Game, on T:61883 23:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor in the End Game, on T:61934 23:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:62131 23:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:40