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You feel like you are falling apart. 00:12 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 6432 points, T:4823, killed by a vampire lord 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:30874 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:30875 00:37 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12859 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Law), 28436 points, T:13094, killed by an ochre jelly 00:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:46 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Law), 107 points, T:717, killed by a kobold zombie 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 55 points, T:244, killed by a kobold 00:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:31684 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Pri Hum Mal Law), 466 points, T:2008, killed by a homunculus 01:04 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 01:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 01:06 [hdf-us] [slex] fooloffate (Ass Alc Mal Law), 421 points, T:326, killed by a monster (filthy street urchin) 01:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:23 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2202 points, T:3332, killed by a giant bat 01:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:53 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:54 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:2490 02:27 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 02:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 02:29 <@carlarc> @riker i ate the starting food and it didn't unbind andro 02:29 <@carlarc> also apparently the starting weapons are meant to be stolen? 02:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2315 points, T:4423, killed by a rabid rat, while praying 03:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 710 points, T:1774, killed by a rabid rat 03:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4 points, T:43, killed by a jackal, while praying 03:14 <@machinespray> In my defense, I stepped on a magic trap. 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1661 points, T:5875, killed by a wolf 03:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:33 @machinepray the prayer was clearly chanceless, though 03:34 too early 03:38 <@machinespray> yeah, definitely. I realized right afterwards. 03:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2433 04:08 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:21 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 05:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1552 05:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:41 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 05:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:49 when you get owned by polytraps (and n00biness) 06:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:01 Slashem question: 06:02 I am on Dlvl:61, the vibrating square is supposed to be on 62. The level is a maze made of iron bars, undiggable floor. I mapped it and canot find a portal ^ or a stairs > what am i supposed to find here? 06:03 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:03 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 06:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:05 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:05 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 06:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 06:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:11748 06:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:20 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:30 <@carlarc> portal? 06:30 <@carlarc> you can't map the vibrating square in slash'em @Luxor 06:31 <@carlarc> you need to individually find the tile 06:31 <@carlarc> its not a trap in 343, which is what slash is based on 06:31 <@carlarc> since you have iron bars for walls i imagine this is going to be very fun 06:33 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:55 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) defeated the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68457 06:59 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:68750 07:03 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 07:04 mooooooooorning 07:12 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 07:13 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) defeated the high priestess of Moloch, on T:69052 07:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:24 K2: did you visit slash'em and polymorph into a cow? ;) 07:40 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:70357 07:41 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) had Plague bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:5949 07:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 94804 points, T:70536, drowned in the Plane of Water (with the Amulet) 07:55 mooo 08:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 16963 points, T:8914, killed by a leocrotta 08:04 <@machinespray> :( 08:06 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 08:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1671 points, T:1715, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 08:21 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a sewer rat, on T:9396 08:36 -!- machinespray1 has joined #hardfought 08:38 -!- machinespray1 has quit [Client Quit] 08:41 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 18622 points, T:10201, mowed down by an owlbear 08:43 'mowed down' 08:43 owlbear with a push mower 08:43 w/ bag attachment 08:44 because no one likes grass clippings 08:46 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 08:49 you can compost grass clippings 08:59 aosdict: grass in xnethack, is it maintained? or does it just grow wild 09:00 do owlbears come out to cut it? 09:00 and if so, do they bag it? 09:01 mulching blades are another option... 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3416 09:06 -!- stennowork has left #hardfought 09:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:16 one could assume that it's maintained on levels like the monk monastery 09:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] gatherer (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3995 points, T:4455, killed by a Green-elf 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 11 points, T:73, killed by a falling rock 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14438 10:14 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the ghost of krm26, the former Esquire, on T:2275 10:17 <{Demo}3> ndnh has grass too stolen directly from xnh 10:17 <{Demo}3> u can cut it with polearms and get hay 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:3132 10:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] machinespray (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1462 points, T:3301, killed by a large kobold, while fainted from lack of food 10:20 -!- MandevilTL has joined #hardfought 10:20 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2574 points, T:2347, killed by a killer bee 10:22 -!- MandevilTL has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:32069 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:32071 10:30 <@riker> @carlarc hm, no repro on dev, eating it instantly unbinds him 10:35 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 daggers on an altar, on T:3396 10:38 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:41 <@carlarc> weird 10:41 <@carlarc> does hay have any use 10:41 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 10:45 <@luxidream> !tell Mandevil is teamsplat going to play in 0.23 10:45 I'm on it, @luxidream. 10:47 0.23? 10:47 @luxidream Yes, it is. 10:47 Mandevil: Message from @luxidream at 2019-02-05 10:45 EST: is teamsplat going to play in 0.23 10:48 what is 0.23 10:48 DCSS 0.23 10:48 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:48 ah 10:51 OOTC will be participating in a very noob capacity. 10:52 TeamSplat was in top10 in last 5 or so tournaments. 10:52 <@luxidream> yeah none of us actually know how to play the game 10:52 <@luxidream> lmao 10:52 <@luxidream> so we won’t be competitive by any means 10:53 Well, it's a start. 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:32619 10:53 Since every one of us is new. 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:32902 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master lich), on T:16299 11:08 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:09 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33266 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33267 11:13 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:33464 11:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:25 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:33666 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33670 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34919 12:18 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:26 <@machinespray> 🤔 12:39 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:10 I have won dcss a few times, but I wouldn't exactly call myself good at the game 13:10 the wins were flukes more than anything 13:12 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:21 anyone has a witty project name for a low-level nethack API written in javascript/node ? 13:22 atm it's just 'nhllapi' which is boring 13:23 <@machinespray> NetHacked? 13:25 mmmh nah 13:29 a lot of node things love naming themselves something.io 13:29 or just something.js 13:29 The poisoned orcish dagger hits the Mordor orc! The poison was deadly... 13:29 wtf grunt 13:29 i mean i'm grateful but that's not right 13:29 .io would mean i could register a domain, for whatever reason 13:29 hothraxxa: Non-player orcs aren't poison resistant in vanilla either. 13:29 really? 13:30 Really. 13:30 hmm 13:30 really? well some are 13:30 they are in fh 13:30 Fourk changes this. 13:30 probably due to racial immunity 13:30 huh? 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5387 points, T:2765, killed by a leocrotta 13:50 [hdf-us] [un] pellsson (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21394 13:53 maybe i just have to take a cool word and then form a backronym 13:55 or maybe: 13:55 nhode.js 14:09 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 14:11 low level nethack api? What would that do? 14:14 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 4018 points, T:5069, killed by an Uruk-hai's magic missile 14:14 you know, i was an orc. orcs should have been nice to me 14:16 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 122 points, T:460, killed by a bolt of cold 14:17 <{Demo}3> I'm a start scummer 14:19 Welcome to Start Scummers Anonymous. 14:20 Mandevil: programmatically interacting with a nethack session, i.e. being able to comfortably write input to it and to comfortably read the state of the game windows 14:20 So, Interhack rehash? 14:21 yeah basically 14:21 It would be better if nethack itself would implement this API. 14:21 [hdf-us] [un] pellsson (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided disenchanters dungeon wide on T:21523 14:22 Mandevil: i agree 14:23 first sentence of the interhack readme: 14:23 Interhack is a layer that sits between you and your NetHack server (which we'll 14:23 call NAO) 14:24 Oh, Interhack also does the remoting? 14:25 The ideal architecture would separate the presentation layer from the game itself. 14:25 Then you could write your own presentation etc. 14:25 Mandevil: windowports are kinda like that 14:25 the 3.6 display code at least tries to move in that direction 14:25 but it's very complicated (at least for me) 14:26 'windowports' are ... ? 14:27 Mandevil: like, tty, x11, win32, qt 14:27 curses 14:28 which i assume is capsuled from the rest of the code 14:29 That's still too lowlevel. 14:30 curses are just abstracted away terminal primitives. 14:31 what i mean is that you can implement a window port which is geared more towards being easily parsable 14:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:44210 14:32 -!- stenno has quit [Killed (herbert.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 14:33 -!- Guest57118 has joined #hardfought 14:33 -!- Guest57118 is now known as stenno 14:33 And what I mean is that it still needs to be parsed. 14:34 I think optimally the core would talk to other in something that doesn't need to be "parsed" at all. 14:34 But that's just fantasy, I know 14:39 well Gaelan is working on some sort of JSON windowport 14:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:44579 14:40 Mandevil: well if the windowport is at least capsuled, it somehow has to interact with the core game through an API of sorts 14:40 but maybe it's coupled more tightly 14:41 6 lovely weapons from my diety... too bad I'm going weaponless. 14:41 oh there is the vt_tiledata code lol! what a lucky coincidence 14:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:46 why does everyone spell it "diety" when everything else including nethack spells it "deity" 14:46 *cough* 14:47 let me show you something in a narrower brush 14:56 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 211 points, T:236, killed by a dwarf 14:56 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:57 me squishy :( 15:00 because I sux at typing fast. 15:00 my brain knows it's deity but my fingers want to type DIE DIE DIE 15:06 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 361 points, T:327, killed by a falling rock 15:10 where is ROWNO and COLNO defined? :v 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:20715 15:13 hm found it 15:23 stenno: are you going to make BIGnethack? :D 15:24 <{Demo}3> BIGHACK 15:24 have i found my project name 15:24 probably 15:25 [hdf-us] [4k] yeouch (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1290 points, T:1485, killed by a force bolt 15:25 well you might want to look at the slex commits that I did for BIGslex ;) (I put it all in a define) 15:25 BIGHACK WITH CHEESE 15:26 wait, what's BIGslex? all output is all_caps? 15:27 what, you didn't hear of bigslex yet? 15:27 one moment 15:27 - Added a BIGSLEX define to config.h that can be turned on to make the dungeon levels much bigger. 15:27 i see lol 15:27 https://abload.de/img/bigslexbabyccfzj.png 15:28 thats really cool 15:28 if you intend to make vanilla's dungeon levels bigger, my advice would be to grep the slex source for all occurences of "#ifdef BIGSLEX" so you can avoid a bunch of pitfalls ;) 15:28 that makes me think that BIGHACK and BIGslex are not following the same fundamental principle of bigger levels 15:28 for example, I had to add special code that ensures you don't spawn in a wall on the plane of air or the castle 15:29 LarienTelrunya: nah i don't plan on doing something like that 15:29 and I also had to make a code change so that maze levels work correctly 15:29 huh? what are you going to do with ROWNO and COLNO then? 15:29 i am just source-diving the windowport code 15:29 oh I see 15:29 i want to write an API in node.js 15:29 nethack api, a decent one 15:29 and here I thought you wanted to make a vanilla nethack with 125x41-sized dungeon levels ;) 15:30 no, but it is very awesome 15:31 <{Demo}3> it's a BIG thing 15:32 bigslex can be played on the em.slashem.me server; recommended terminal size is 125x45 (those exact dimensions, not smaller or bigger) ;) 15:32 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:34 <@luxidream> Bighack should prefix every monster with “giant” 15:34 and any object too 15:35 GIANT FIRE GIANT 15:35 <@luxidream> Decrease its speed, double corpse nutrition, increase damage 15:35 GIANT GIANT ANT 15:35 <@luxidream> everything weighs twice as much 15:35 GIANT PAIR OF GLASSES 15:35 that would be so funny 15:35 GIANT LITTLE DART 15:36 @le?giant pygmy 15:36 giant pygmy (h) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 16 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: -1 | Attacks: 2d8 weapon physical, 2d8 weapon physical | Alignment: 4 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 15:36 lol 15:36 GIANT DWARF 15:37 hmm 'giant dwarf' sounds familiar 15:37 <@luxidream> All corpses can increase strength 15:37 @luxidream double weight would imply everything scales up by only the cube root of 2 ~= 1.26 15:40 <@luxidream> We didn’t say how giant 15:41 your short sword is now a long sword but deals double shortsword damage! yay! 15:44 <@luxidream> YOUR GIANT LEG IS IN NO SHAPE FOR GIANT KICKING. 15:45 all monsters can destroy doors by walking into them 15:45 <@luxidream> THE GIANT DEATH RAY HITS YOU! 15:45 THE GIANT WIZARD OF YENDOR CASTS A SPELL! GIANT DOUBLE TROUBLE... 15:46 YOU FEEL LIKE SOMEONE GIANT IS HELPING YOU. 15:46 A GIANT CHOIR OF GIANT ANGELS SINGS 15:47 <@luxidream> THE GIANT MIND FLAYER HITS! YOUR GIANT BRAIN IS EATEN! 15:48 WAIT GIANT ASMODEUS! THIS GIANT PILE OF GOLD IS REALLY GIANT STENNO 15:49 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 5342 points, T:3796, killed by a shattered potion 15:49 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 461 points, T:1065, killed by a kobold wererat 15:50 You turn into a giant grid bug! You break out of your giant armor! 15:51 imagine being secuded by a giant foobicus 15:51 dammit 15:51 *seduced 15:51 have fun walking afterwards 15:51 <@luxidream> It’s fine you’re also giant 15:52 not in my version 15:52 it'd be like a st bernard trying to mate a chiuawaha 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Bar Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:22167 15:55 <@luxidream> Anything already giant should just take up 4 squares instead 15:56 <@luxidream> There is one upside - giant giantslayer becomes the best weapon in the game 15:57 SEVEN AT ONE GIANT BLOW! 15:58 GIANT DIRGE 15:59 Is DIRGE actually spelled all-caps ingame or is that just part of the meme 16:00 <@luxidream> DIRGE 16:00 Correction: THE GIANT MIND FLAYER HITS! YOUR _TINY_ BRAIN IS EATEN! 16:01 <@luxidream> all players are big brain 16:01 <@luxidream> clearly : ) 16:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:45674 16:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 16:11 PavelB its just me being excited about... DIRGE 16:12 <@luxidream> K2: aren't you the spork maintainer now 16:13 pretty much 16:13 <@luxidream> you could very reasonably make it DIRGE 16:13 ;) 16:16 <@luxidream> YANI: Giantslayer will deal damage to all insects adjacent to the player, leading to a potential "Seven in one blow" 16:41 huh 16:41 what is this about 16:41 THE GIANT KIRIN WITH A LIZARD CORPSE KICKS STENNO!!! 16:41 D: 16:41 GIANT LIZARD* GIANT STENNO* 16:48 Porkman: You see here a giant wand of wishing (1:-1). 16:51 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:53 Amy: you *perfectly* know what I would use it for. 16:54 * K2 dry heaves 16:54 YASI: wands (1:-1) cancel out and become (0:0) 16:56 -!- machinespray has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:57 Porkman: For a giant moment, you feel something in your giant hands, but it disappears... into a giant cloud of nothingness with a giant speech bubble over it that reads "Muahahahaha I'll keep the giant orb of fate!" 16:58 anyway gotta go to bed; have a giant load of fun guys! :) 16:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:59 gotta go to *giant* bed, have a giant load of *giant* fun *giant* guys 17:42 i am off to get giantly bundled 17:47 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 18:18 I am having a hard time in slashem locating the vibrating square 18:19 I am in an iron bar maze 18:19 cast a confused gold detection and detected all the ^ 18:19 None of them vibrates when i stand on it 18:19 <@luxidream> doesn't work 18:19 <@luxidream> go walk over every square 18:20 welcome to 3.4 hell 18:20 <@luxidream> then come back and talk to us 18:21 it's slashem, was hoping its different 18:23 <@luxidream> why would slashem add qol 18:23 was not sure if it is a feature or a bug 18:23 <@luxidream> I feel like that's not in its design philosophy 18:36 aosdict - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/04d024756d4dbd9e0ed222361aa96a58041960d0 18:36 good catch 18:36 i wrote that before tweaking the macro and neglected to go back and tweak 18:49 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 149 points, T:311, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 293 points, T:700, killed by a gnome lord 19:18 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cloak of protection on an altar, on T:3793 19:51 -!- Luxor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3969 points, T:3140, killed by a warg, while sleeping off a magical draught 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:35277 21:17 -!- Luxor has joined #hardfought 21:18 What wands are good for after the incantation? 21:18 <{Demo}3> teleportation 21:18 I have 4 Death wands, 4 xtra healing, 4 fire/lighting, 4 teleports, 1 open, 1 search. 21:19 4 death/teleports enough? 21:19 i have 1 create monstger to generate food 21:20 and of course an untouched wand of wishing 21:20 and a blessed charge scroll for it 21:22 couple wands of poly, i guess they can always be used aggressively, 21:22 Are wands of Draining and undead turning of any use? 21:29 <@carlarc> no 21:30 <@carlarc> undead turning does piddling damage to undead, who you won't see in the endgame 21:30 <@carlarc> and nobody uses pets that later on 21:30 <@carlarc> wands of draining aren't useful for players either 21:31 I lost over 20+ levels to monsters using wands of draining on me 21:31 <@carlarc> yes 21:31 <@carlarc> they're bad for you 21:31 in nethack each neu t chaos law uses their own anti drain weapon, in slashem this is a luxury 21:32 <@carlarc> you don't get any use from them 21:32 <@carlarc> their draining effect is never worth it 21:32 To the point now each level in Gehenom i run detect treasure just to see if there are wand of drainig around, and I caught 4 of them before they were used on me 21:33 and caught one cancellation, lucky for me they had unique colors 21:33 <@carlarc> why don't you have drain resistance 21:34 <@carlarc> use deep dragon scale mail, amulet of reflection, MR cloak 21:34 i have an amulet for it, i also have the hand of vecna if i wield it i get resist but can do no damage 21:34 I thought of that combination, 21:34 <@carlarc> well wear the amulet 21:34 either way i lose my amulet 21:34 <@carlarc> use the wand of wishing to get that combo 21:34 as a doppleganger i can not twoweapon 21:34 so i have the shieled of ref 21:35 <@carlarc> you don't need 7 wishes 21:35 <@carlarc> oh 21:35 <@carlarc> nice 21:35 <@carlarc> that means you can get deep dragon scale mail, reflection shield, MR cloak 21:35 <@carlarc> and then get some amulets of life saving 21:35 i have mirrorbright which based on a shiled of ref 21:36 i have 5 amulet of life saving 21:36 The only thing left for me is to up some deep dragon scales 21:36 i had to wish for the cloack of MR 21:37 I give up displacement for Dain resist 21:38 <@carlarc> displacement is nice but not worth it over essential resistances 21:38 Currently my stat for Valk Doppleganger is: 21:38 HP:938(938) Pw:156(434) AC:-37 Exp:30 21:38 <@carlarc> nice 21:38 I have a setup for casting which is: 21:39 Robe of power, Gloves of Dex, Helm of Brilliance, amulet/shield of ref 21:39 when I cast i have to take of the shield 21:40 I only cast when I enter a level and before I leave it 21:40 utility spells 21:40 If I go into melee mode then: 21:40 <@carlarc> you don't really need spellcasting as a valk 21:41 GDSM, gauntlets of power+7, deluder, amulet of drain/ fly / life saving 21:41 <@carlarc> everything can be supplanted with wands or potions 21:41 <@carlarc> you're overthinking this 21:41 <@carlarc> that doesn't matter 21:41 I wanted to experiment for myself 21:41 I only really needed ID and remove curse, for which i have tons of leftover scrolls to do it 21:41 <@carlarc> how much food do you have 21:42 i have 20 Lembas 21:42 <@carlarc> nice 21:42 converted a stack of 20 food 21:42 <@carlarc> tip: you can do n1e to eat in a single turn 21:42 <@carlarc> which will ofc halve your nutrition and leave half of the wafer 21:43 <@carlarc> try not to spellcast if possible because that drains hunger 21:43 u mean click 1 then click e then the food ? 21:43 <@carlarc> depends on your settings 21:43 <@carlarc> it's either 1e or n1e 21:45 i think it's 1e for me, nice 21:45 <@carlarc> get a leather drum or a bugle for the plane of air 21:46 <@carlarc> so every time an air elemental gets close you just spam it 21:46 <@carlarc> and it runs away 21:46 <@carlarc> it's extremely effective 21:46 <@luxidream> bugle only works in 3.6 21:46 <@carlarc> oh 21:46 <@carlarc> well drum then 21:46 i have drums of earthquake 21:46 <@luxidream> tooled horn is cool too 21:46 dont htink it does that 21:46 <@luxidream> empty the drum 21:46 <@carlarc> drum of earthquake has too weird of an effect to be useful, but its the same as a drum uncharged 21:46 <@luxidream> then it becomes normal 21:47 <@carlarc> luxi are you sure the bugle only scares in 3.6 21:47 <@carlarc> cause im gonna fix that for the wiki 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1650 points, T:1384, killed by a dwarf 21:50 i have 4 blessed scrolls of genocide 21:50 but i thikn i genocide all things that are dangerous 21:51 all L, V, h, n, ; , Z (queen & mage), 21:52 disenchanters, static blobs, 21:52 <@carlarc> dont genocide any more 21:53 <@carlarc> if you genocide too many monsters you may end up with archons summoning archons over and over 21:53 <@carlarc> it's funny but also incredibly deadly 21:53 i figured as much 21:53 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 21:53 When nothing is left to spawn, the game will spawn what i could not geno 21:54 <@carlarc> remember that wands of teleport are practically MR-bypassing wands of death against all monsters in the endgame except for riders and the wizard 21:54 so been sitting on those 4 scrolls since before Gehennom 21:54 <@carlarc> maybe curse them for nurse dancing 21:54 nurse does not work if you have more than 25 x your level 21:55 and very inefficient between 15-25 x you level 21:55 I am at level 30 with 938hp, nurses dont do much, i should have tinned them 21:55 <@carlarc> well 21:55 <@carlarc> do so 21:55 <@carlarc> blessed tins are potions of full healing that take 2-3 turns to eat 21:55 <@carlarc> and can be carried in open inventory 21:56 good idea, i also have 2 cursed geno scrolls 21:56 <{Demo}3> what race are you? 21:56 was going to use one for gypsies but i got so many of them spawning 21:57 Valk Doppelganger 21:57 <{Demo}3> don't eat nurse tins 21:57 neutral 21:57 <{Demo}3> that's cannibalism 21:57 <@carlarc> better to live with cannibalism than to die 21:57 If I have some blessed potions of ESP will it matter? 21:57 <@carlarc> no 21:57 <@carlarc> blessed monster detection is ESP+ 21:57 <@luxidream> potion of esp? 21:58 <@carlarc> what a redundant potion 21:58 yes, the blessed version is like eating floating eye 21:58 <@luxidream> Yep that’s a thing 21:59 6 blessed scrolls of scare monster, 21:59 what's the deal with the riders, 21:59 how many times I will have to kill them? 22:00