00:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 818 points, T:1862, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:03 I hate to blow a wish on boots, but if I don't get them by the vibrating square I will 00:04 I even have poly spell so it should eventually materialize. 00:10 !tell AntiGulp noticed slicehack commit 7f055ba - I'm going the complete opposite route and taking out the ifdef and its deferred code. It's better balanced and ultimately more interesting if the player can't use wishes to specify the material of their object. 00:10 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3198 points, T:2864, killed by a gnome mummy 00:47 [hdf-us] [slshm] hempe (Nec Vam Mal Cha), 18241 points, T:10009, killed by a watch captain 00:51 -!- atrocityvoyeur has joined #hardfought 00:53 -!- atrocityvoyeur has quit [Client Quit] 01:17 -!- UsagiMero has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:26 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:20 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 02:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 03:25 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 04:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 119300 points, T:24997, killed by a fire ant 04:05 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 336 points, T:539, killed by a dretch 04:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:4221 04:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:18 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1469 points, T:1295, killed by a hill orc, while helpless 04:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1102 points, T:4753, killed by a fire ant 04:27 Konnichi wa Andrio, the null angelic Samurai 04:27 Rude 04:44 So I found one of the Gnomish Mines levels in Sokoban. 04:44 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1479 points, T:1457, killed by a wererat 04:45 It's also full of Team Ant 04:50 You see here an invisible invisible badguy corpse. 04:50 That's silly on so many levels 04:52 the monster is called "invisible badguy"? 04:52 Yep. 04:53 Also I couldn't see it when it was alive. 04:53 and apparently you have intrinsic see invisible, or you wouldn't see the invisible corpse 04:53 an invisible invisible badguy 04:53 oh! 04:53 so the corpse *is* visible but it's *called* invisible 04:53 mm 04:53 "you see here the visible corpse of a monster called invisible badguy which was invisible when it was alive" 04:54 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1902 points, T:1806, killed by a rabid rat 04:54 Does Slex actually have invisible items? 04:56 SLASH'EM does so yes 04:59 I might be stuck on this Sokoban level 04:59 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Val Hum Fem Law), 1700 points, T:2153, killed by a killer bee 04:59 remember, Luck penalties time out pretty fast 05:02 mm 05:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:06 Stuff solving this level. I'm just flying around the area where there should be a wall but isn't. 05:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1497 points, T:2908, killed by a parrot 05:10 it's one of the vanilla levels anyway. 05:29 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 335 points, T:694, killed by a gas spore's explosion 05:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 949 points, T:907, killed by a rabid rat 05:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 936 points, T:1020, killed by a dingo puppy 05:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2565 points, T:1697, killed by a dingo 05:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 410 points, T:600, killed by a kitten 06:02 I have scrolls which sells for 10zm, according to the wiki, the cheapest should be 20zm? 06:02 oh I am stupid 06:02 :D 06:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 13291 points, T:4688, killed by a wallaroo 06:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:57 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4098 07:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 674 points, T:4530, killed by a giant ant, while dressing up 07:12 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 07:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3345 points, T:2341, killed by a baby blue dragon 07:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 814 points, T:627, killed by a giant ant 08:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 281 points, T:776, killed by a gas spore's explosion 08:08 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2581 points, T:1418, killed by something while blind 08:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1683 points, T:942, killed by a dwarf 08:37 morning 08:37 morning 08:39 lol I like "killed by something while blind" (though it's frustrating that you will never know what killed you) 08:39 just like your valiant last stand and death at the hands of a horde of Uruk-hai will give "killed by an orcish arrow" 08:54 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 26819 points, T:6432, killed by a panther 09:17 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 41956 points, T:5055, killed by a blue jelly 09:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:31 xNetHack updated (all servers) 09:32 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 11585 points, T:3918, killed by a rabid rabbit 09:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Alrunes, on T:29284 09:35 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 11396 points, T:493, killed by a gnome 09:35 <@carlarc> i'm gonna keep using create monster until i kill off all summonable demon lords via conflict 09:35 <@carlarc> sounds fun 09:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 210 points, T:448, killed by a water moccasin 09:39 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 09:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:59893 09:48 K2: with what? the conflict.h update? 09:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] strangefella (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 256 points, T:524, killed by a little dart 09:50 yeah the one you mentioned to me yesterday but i neglected to get to it then 09:50 and no build errors? I guess you would have told me 09:50 right 09:51 no issues 09:52 one thing you might want to tweak during your next update (its minor) - in the default dumplog path, change 'nethack' to 'xnethack' 09:52 that way it wouldnt conflict with anyone have a local build of both vanilla and xnethack 09:52 *having 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:27198 09:53 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27219 09:55 -!- Gaelan has quit [Client Quit] 09:58 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 32741 points, T:1586, killed by a magic missile 09:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Zuggtmoy, on T:29569 10:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:29574 10:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Aldinach, on T:29609 10:03 <{Demo}1> thats a low turn count for a non clkwrk 10:04 <{Demo}1> ah just playing altar games 10:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) averted death, on T:29700 10:04 <{Demo}1> why are you playing this altar game? 10:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:29731 10:04 <{Demo}1> or was it an accident? 10:04 <@carlarc> sacrificed one too many orc corpses 10:05 <@carlarc> and got stuck between demon lords lol 10:05 <{Demo}1> wont they come peaceful though? 10:05 <@carlarc> had to teleport one away 10:05 <{Demo}1> ah 10:05 <{Demo}1> and it got mad 10:05 <@carlarc> yah 10:05 <{Demo}1> yeah i would not fuck with dnh's demon lords at that level intentionally 10:05 <@carlarc> one dropped an Aldinach mask 10:05 <@carlarc> what does that do 10:06 <{Demo}1> nothing 10:06 <@carlarc> lame 10:06 <@carlarc> i can't poly into him? 10:06 <{Demo}1> nope 10:07 <{Demo}1> chris has considered making it give u poly immunity in the future 10:07 <{Demo}1> he may or may not do that 10:07 <{Demo}1> idk 10:07 <@carlarc> also apparently crystal gloves and gauntlets give no AC 10:07 <@carlarc> so that's lame 10:07 <{Demo}1> thats weird 10:07 <{Demo}1> that shouldnt be the case 10:08 <@riker> fixed in dev I believe 10:08 <@riker> and should be that enchanting it gives very good ac (if you can carry the weight) 10:09 <@riker> a crystal armored lvl 30 orc barb is tons of fun (crowning for resists) 10:09 <@carlarc> yeah thats what i wanted to do 10:09 <@carlarc> do crystal gauntlets and shoes also give extra ac like the armor does 10:09 <@riker> yes 10:09 <@riker> all crystal does 10:09 <@carlarc> nice 10:10 <@riker> and helmet fwiw 10:10 <@riker> though the helm is annoying it works like plasteel, no food/potions 10:10 <@carlarc> thats so dumb 10:10 <@carlarc> i hate it 10:10 <@carlarc> massive pain in the ass especially when it makes you press tab 10:10 <@carlarc> HEY LISTEn 10:10 <@riker> ? 10:10 <@riker> oh yeah the tab thing is super annoying 10:11 <@riker> the only two things that use it are hurt legs and that I think 10:11 <{Demo}1> ? i just press space and it works 10:12 <@carlarc> idk it makes me press tab not space 10:12 <{Demo}1> maybe thats a curses interface thing? idk 10:12 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 17359 points, T:352, killed by a gnome queen 10:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:30049 10:19 <{Demo}1> how should ndnh change barbs to make them less OP but still interesting? 10:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3498 points, T:3126, killed by a hobbit 10:20 <@carlarc> dunno 10:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 351 points, T:411, killed by a hobbit 10:21 <@carlarc> maybe read the conan stuff and find inspiration there? 10:22 <@carlarc> hmm 10:22 <@Tone> Demo: How about armor penalties? 10:22 <@carlarc> i can do basic flail skill and i have the three headed flail 10:22 <@carlarc> that means that at level thirty, i can do up to what, nine attacks in one turn? 10:23 <@Tone> And some barb focused ability to compensate, maybe a rage ability that uses pw 10:25 <{Demo}1> im thinking dmg overloading 10:25 <{Demo}1> to get your additional attacks you have to risk hurting yourself 10:25 <{Demo}1> and you can set how many you get 10:26 <@riker> demo: yeah no it's 100% a curses thing 10:26 <@riker> certain actions require tab not space, you have to press tab or it doesn't wokr 10:26 <@riker> it locks the screen as well, you can't do anything until you've hit tab 10:26 <{Demo}1> thats dumb and another good reason for me to not use curses 10:26 <@riker> meh it's only for 2 actions like I said so as long as you're not an ana it's ok 10:27 <@carlarc> i dont like how some things are balanced by being annoying to use 10:27 <@carlarc> at least in curse 10:27 <@carlarc> s 10:27 <@riker> honestly just dnh is such a mess 10:28 <@carlarc> lmao 10:28 <@riker> it was 'balanced' within itself but not compared to the rest of the code 10:28 <@riker> and many of the artifacts and similar are ripped off of other things (sailor moon, FF, etc.) which leads to things like werebuster 10:28 <{Demo}1> dnh is op in such a fun way 10:29 <@riker> if your'e interested I think hedrow shared still hasn't been ascended, drows are just annoying to play 10:29 <{Demo}1> shared 10:29 <{Demo}1> ? 10:29 <@riker> .s/shared/noble 10:29 <@carlarc> hedrow noble doesn't count as ascended in the main page yeah 10:29 <{Demo}1> hedrow noble isnt playable :P 10:29 <@carlarc> i guess that's why lmao 10:29 <@riker> why not? 10:29 <@riker> what's wrong with it 10:30 <@riker> i haven't tried it much 10:30 <@carlarc> wait are we talking male or female 10:30 <@riker> hedrow is male, "he-drow" 10:31 <@riker> drow is female, drow society is heavily matriachial 10:31 <@carlarc> yeah i just wanted to verify since the role difficulty page puts shedrow noble as way harder than he 10:31 <@riker> drow noble is just stupid yeah, chris went a little overboard with that one 10:32 <{Demo}1> shedrow noble starts with like -7 AC, whoever wrote that is dumb 10:32 <@riker> I edited the middle section a while back I don't think I touchhed the first 10:34 <{Demo}1> I need to ascend a proper drow 10:34 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 4343 points, T:2654, killed by a juggernaut 10:39 <{Demo}1> Giving drow a dark source defeats the purpose imo 10:40 <@carlarc> just bind ahazu 10:40 <{Demo}1> not all drows are binder 10:41 <{Demo}1> and by late game you probably have something else sorted out 10:41 <@carlarc> gotta roll for the book 10:41 <{Demo}1> I mean for early game 10:41 <{Demo}1> I would argue ndnh majorly changes drow early game 10:42 <@carlarc> how? 10:43 <{Demo}1> the adventure branch patch 10:43 <{Demo}1> instead of the mines just being the mines there are 4 other options and you get to choose one 10:43 <{Demo}1> and one of them is dark on every level 10:44 <@riker> Which is kinda stupid 10:45 <{Demo}1> why is that stupid? 10:48 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 34462 points, T:2021, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 10:52 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:02 !who 11:02 PavelB: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] carlarc [dnh] Grouchy [nh362] rootkit [nh362] Leggman [nh362] AlbertB [nh362] Delraven [un] hothraxxa [spl] KaiHerd [nh343] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 11:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:04 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3406 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:39179 11:10 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2716 points, T:3918, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 11:12 -!- Gaelan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:39276 11:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 5052 points, T:8508, killed by a mumak 11:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:01 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:8030 12:13 <@carlarc> @riker dumb bug: you can continually kill priests of an unknown god for death drops 12:13 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 2049 points, T:3555, eliminated by a wallaby 12:18 <@carlarc> why the hell is putting on a ring of levitation making me burdened 12:21 it shoudl do the opposite! 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2182 12:28 <{Demo}1> because 3.6.0 is bugged as fuck 12:28 <{Demo}1> 3.16.0 12:29 <{Demo}1> sets your max weight to 1000 12:29 <{Demo}1> this is fixed in ndnh and 3.16.1-devel 12:46 <@carlarc> oh shiit 12:46 <@carlarc> book of lost names 12:50 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 182716 points, T:19127, killed by an ettin mummy 12:53 <@carlarc> damnit 12:53 <@carlarc> dn is missing a lot of irc-announcey things 12:53 <@carlarc> like genocide 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:3202 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4435 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:6909 13:07 <@riker> Carlarc: it's better than that 13:07 <@riker> You can clone them easily 13:07 <@riker> It's not hard to get 5 or so on the same level 13:07 <@carlarc> ? 13:07 <@riker> If a pet kills them they interact weird 13:07 <@riker> Don't remember the specifics 13:08 <@carlarc> what are you talking about 13:08 <@riker> You can kill the priests of unknown gods then the pet does 13:08 <@carlarc> oh 13:08 <@riker> 2 corpses, 2 priests 13:08 <@riker> You pinged me :p 13:09 <@carlarc> i forgot what i pinged u for 13:09 <@riker> Lmao 13:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:17 argh I read the scroll of stinking cloud instead of the scroll of identify to identify the stinking cloud with 13:17 and I was in a (small) shop 13:17 ah well 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed charging", on T:12165 13:18 <@luxidream> this is like my 5th 0:1 wand in a row 13:18 <@luxidream> wtf 13:19 <@luxidream> this game is so dumb ffs 13:19 Does "2 blessed charging" work? 13:19 yes 13:19 "2 holy charging" works too 13:19 wish parser works in mysterious ways 13:19 there's no foo of charging except a scroll of charging, that's how 13:20 if you wish for just "levitation" I don't know what you get 13:20 holy chargings would work too i think 13:20 for 2 13:20 potion, ring, boots or spellbook 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:12335 13:22 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed scroll of genocide", on T:12846 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15256 13:26 @luxidream interestingly, the chance of five WoW finds being all 0:1 is just about the chance of a random wand being a WoW 13:27 <@luxidream> so I guess it was bound to happen eventually 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 92309 points, T:13382, quit 13:28 <@luxidream> revgeno wraith, get 1 corpse lol 13:28 <@luxidream> gg 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:2677 13:39 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2998 points, T:4106, killed by a mastodon, while sleeping 13:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7576 points, T:4217, killed by a hobgoblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 789 points, T:2301, killed by brainlessness 13:45 <@luxidream> wtffff 13:46 <@carlarc> wot 13:46 <@carlarc> how did that happen 13:46 <@luxidream> minesflayer 13:46 <@carlarc> ah 13:47 <@luxidream> screw this stupid unfair game I'm going back to dcss 13:54 <{Demo}1> minesgayer and u got gayed 13:55 wtf 14:05 <@carlarc> hmmmm 14:06 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/540608694920937473/unknown.png 14:06 pretty foggy in there 14:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:07 <@carlarc> hmm 14:07 <@carlarc> you'd think mindflayers would be spellcasters 14:07 <@carlarc> since they're such big brained guys 14:11 in D&D they're powerful psionics 14:13 <@luxidream> well since they're eating idiots like valkyries I can't imagine they're getting much smarter 14:27 <@carlarc> YANI: trolls are guaranteed 4 revives instead of 75% chance of revival per death 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1797 14:30 would probably require a savebreaking change to the monst struct 14:30 YASI: cats will revive exactly 8 times 14:31 <@carlarc> splice has that 14:39 <@luxidream> nah it has some kind of cat lord boss 14:39 aosdict that should be YANI 14:39 <@luxidream> that I've never seen in my life despite ascending splice 3 times already 14:40 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 14:41 <[Demo]> hmm, showscore is a thing in dnh? 14:42 <@carlarc> well i can see my score right now 14:42 <@carlarc> also demo 14:42 <@carlarc> how the hell did you get 4000 power 14:42 <@luxidream> inc 14:42 <@carlarc> oh 14:42 <@carlarc> durr 14:43 <[Demo]> carlarc: are u gonna go for the silver key now or come back later? 14:45 <@carlarc> trying to do so now 14:45 <@carlarc> keep forgetting how goddamn long the quest is 14:46 <@carlarc> what for? 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 14727 points, T:9223, killed by an energy vortex 14:48 <@carlarc> well there goes that cloak 14:49 <@carlarc> ripped away into the lethe via a nightgaunt 14:49 @luxidream but does it have the Cartouche of the Cat lord? no it does not 14:49 <@luxidream> splice isn't dnethack 14:49 <[Demo]> dnh is well played with a slashem mindset 14:50 <@carlarc> every time you engrave cartouche it gives you 9 extra lives 14:51 who wants the rest of these chocolate chip cookies I shouldn't have bought but did anyways 14:52 * bhaak raises hand 14:52 <[Demo]> man id eat em 14:52 * K2 gives bhaak the rest of his cookies 14:52 i ate one too many 14:53 <[Demo]> ha jokes on bhaak those were poison cookies 14:53 * bhaak is poison resistant 14:54 <@luxidream> what did u expect 14:54 <[Demo]> but not sickness resistant 14:54 <@luxidream> all & are poison resistant 14:55 <[Demo]> actually dont kill bhaak or the dungeon might collapse 14:56 <{Demo}1> what would happen if my pet archon killed bhaak in tnnt? 14:56 that wont happen 14:56 <@luxidream> nothing 14:56 <@luxidream> some of the paci games seemed to have devteam kills 14:57 what happens if you kill off everybody but me? does tnnt turn into unnethack? 14:57 oh man 14:57 mind blown 14:57 <{Demo}1> what happens if u kill off everyone but lorimer? 14:57 <{Demo}1> does it all turn into orctown? 14:57 or does it turn into nethack4 if ais523 is the only one left standing 14:57 <@luxidream> nah it turns into spork 15:01 <[Demo]> lol carlarc ur in the danger zone 15:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:02 <@carlarc> i think someone got a wand of create monster 15:02 <[Demo]> doesnt look like it 15:02 <[Demo]> or there would be hella U 15:02 <@carlarc> i really like how i was trying to sneak past them and all of a sudden "you hear creaking below you" 15:02 <@carlarc> that was funny 15:03 <@luxidream> oh, cthulhu level 15:03 <@luxidream> can the mfs wake him up 15:03 <@carlarc> wow, the telepathy blasts are outdamaging my regen 15:03 <@carlarc> that's annoying 15:03 <@carlarc> what the hell do i do about that 15:05 K2: what happens if you kill everyone but paxed 15:05 <[Demo]> r'yleh is a lvl that requires careful planning to be safe 15:05 <@luxidream> fills the corridor with spiderwebs 15:05 <[Demo]> u dont just waltz in unless u have a deathwish 15:05 <@luxidream> every corridor 15:05 aosdict it turns into NAO 15:06 <[Demo]> you learn this best by dying 15:06 <@luxidream> demo: last time I did I didn't wake anything up and everything went fine?? 15:07 <[Demo]> yeah its a roll of the dice 15:07 <[Demo]> if you want it to be done safely you need to follow certain procedures 15:07 <[Demo]> otherwise you are chancing 15:07 <@carlarc> i like it 15:08 <[Demo]> r'yleh raid is one of the best/worst parts of dnh 15:08 <@carlarc> also demo, is the heart of ahriman's remove curse BUC-dependent 15:08 <@carlarc> i mean ingame i know it is, but the wiki is Wrong so im about to fix it and dont want to mess up like i did with the black crystal 15:09 <[Demo]> if it is cursed and u invoke it uncurses itself 15:09 <[Demo]> otherwise it is buc dependent 15:17 . 15:17 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2019-01-30 22:58 EST: Disruptor was asking how to build slashem on windows, got some advice about trying it in cygwin, but no one has direct hands-on experience doing it 15:18 aosdict: uhh I never tried to build anything with cygwin, I only use mingw 15:18 !tell Disruptor uhh I never used cygwin, I build slex with mingw; one important pitfall of doing that is that if you forget to run both setup.bat and nhsetup.bat, it won't build 15:18 Disruptor shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 15:22 LarienTelrunya: Yeah, the only advice available at the time was "try it in cygwin it'll probably work" 15:24 yeah it should obviously also be possible with cygwin, I just don't have any experience with that; with mingw I could probably walk him through the install if we were online at the same time 15:24 <{Demo}1> does xnh still overbuff wizards? 15:24 <@luxidream> not as much as fiq but they still have crazy regen 15:26 <{Demo}1> Regen is relative to monster spawn rate 15:26 <{Demo}1> and when you lower that.... 15:28 <@carlarc> accidentally break a wand of death trying to unlock a door, damn you muscle memory 15:28 <@carlarc> also, i zapped a wand of create monster over and over but nothing spawned in r'lyeh 15:29 <@luxidream> pw regen 15:29 <[Demo]> interesting 15:30 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Quit: :q] 15:31 <[Demo]> that shield is highly enchanted carlarc 15:32 <[Demo]> from the deepest one, it is +9 15:33 <@carlarc> ooh nice 15:33 <@carlarc> thanks! 15:33 <@carlarc> i was thinking about what shield to use later on 15:34 bhaak! 15:34 i thought you were gonna eat those cookies 15:34 why am i shoving one into my face right now 15:35 <[Demo]> he knew they were poisoned 15:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:10928 15:42 <[Demo]> i need a minute to decompress 15:42 <[Demo]> carlarc, you do know about cthulhu being covetous but with only a 1/20 chance of warping to you every turn he makes, right? 15:42 <[Demo]> apparently that was commented out in this version and i didnt know it 15:43 <@carlarc> that sounds horrible 15:43 <[Demo]> so ive been waiting for you to die and wondering why you havent 15:43 <[Demo]> cause i had no idea that was changed 15:43 <[Demo]> this greatly complicates things for me 15:43 <[Demo]> this makes ryleh too easy 15:43 <@carlarc> oh 15:43 <@carlarc> that definitely should be in the wiki, what the fuck 15:43 <@carlarc> i did not know that "should" have been a thing 15:43 <[Demo]> the wiki is so outdated 15:44 <[Demo]> for specific info like that 15:44 <@carlarc> i mean its specific but it's still really important 15:44 <[Demo]> im just gonna make that change and then nerf the shit out of the key 15:44 <[Demo]> anyway ur safe, he cant warp to u on the version ur on 15:44 <@carlarc> noooo 15:44 <[Demo]> or he would have already 15:44 <[Demo]> and u would die 15:44 <[Demo]> oh dont worry, im moving the key to elsewhere 15:45 <[Demo]> well splitting it up a bit too maybe 15:45 <@carlarc> does ctulhu mindblast? 15:46 <@carlarc> i'm getting strong blasts but all flayers are dead 15:47 <[Demo]> yes he does 15:47 <[Demo]> and it stuns u i think 15:48 <@carlarc> yeah 15:48 <@carlarc> very annoying 15:51 <@carlarc> demo what do you think of dragonbreath reflection being limited to scales? 15:51 <@carlarc> if the intention of buffing the other scales is to make them useful it kinda ruins that some since acid and lightning dragons are still a big threat 15:52 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 11405 points, T:6562, killed by a warg 15:54 <{Demo}1> they aren't that big a threat late game 15:54 <@carlarc> hmm 15:57 [backscroll] Imagine if you had to update the wiki with every commit you made. 15:57 On the variant's page _and_ all relevant other pages. 15:57 <@carlarc> big things like that are definitely worth it 15:58 <@carlarc> and also, i meant the fact that he used to warp to you every 20 turns or so 15:58 <@carlarc> that sounds pretty important to me 16:01 <{Demo}1> the fact that he doesn't anymore 16:01 <{Demo}1> I needed to know that too 16:01 <{Demo}1> he's also pretty slow 16:01 <{Demo}1> and it's every 20 of his turns 16:02 <{Demo}1> roughly 16:02 <{Demo}1> so not as bad as it sounds if ur very fast 16:02 <@carlarc> oh of his turns 16:02 EPI: Cthulhu's attacks can hit you from anywhere on the level. Then he doesn't need to be covetous anymore. :D 16:02 <{Demo}1> this makes r'yleh no longer a stealth op 16:03 <{Demo}1> and just an all guns blazing attack like everything else 16:04 <@luxidream> EPI: cthulhu kills you by just existing 16:04 EPI: Cthulhu covetous-warps near you, but always so that there's a wall between you and him, and then he spam-spam-spams those mind blasts. Whenever there would be no obstruction between you and him he'll warp again. 16:06 <@carlarc> EPI: every time ctulhu hits you, he just sends you to SLEX instead 16:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 19393 points, T:4177, killed by an invisible gnoll 16:09 I think the desire to have the wiki updated sits uneasily with playing a game that is notoriously undocumented 16:11 <{Demo}1> the game is well documented 16:11 <{Demo}1> just look at the code 16:12 ah yes functions all over the place with confusing variables and no comments 16:12 <{Demo}1> yeehaw 16:12 <@luxidream> EPI: unique monster SLEX dev. does little damage, but each attack causes a random SLEX monster to be added to the pool of randomly generated monsters 16:12 boolean parameter; /* So I can't think up of a good name. So sue me. --KAA */ 16:13 <[Demo]> ndnh is gonna make the netural quest "longer" cause fuck u lol 16:14 <@carlarc> but it's already like 10 levels 16:14 <@carlarc> reeee 16:14 <{Demo}1> it's gonna be a hidden optional part 16:14 I think making unpopular changes with that particular justification means that nobody is gonna want to play it. 16:14 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 16:14 <{Demo}1> nah that's not the reality of the change 16:14 <{Demo}1> it's groundwork for something more 16:14 <@luxidream> I mean people still played vanilla when paxed put in spiders 16:14 {Demo}1: pull a slex and make it 100 levels long and mandatory :P 16:14 well vanilla has a ton of momentum 16:15 <{Demo}1> basically fuck you if you feel a need to play through every level possible 16:15 also disallow levelporting and digging down if that's still possible in there 16:15 a new variant doesn't have any 16:15 <{Demo}1> if you bitch about how long the neutral quest is, easy fix 16:15 <{Demo}1> don't fucking play through it all 16:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2042 points, T:1832, quit 16:17 <@carlarc> the silver key is too useful not to 16:17 ooh even better idea (EPI): {Demo}1: not only make the neutral quest 100 levels long and nolevelport and nodiggingdown, but also make it so that on a randomly chosen level out of those 100 there is a magic portal that leads to a mandatory area. And that portal cannot be detected via crystal balls or searching or anything, but only by stepping on it. :P 16:18 Bonus EPI: and the portal can also be in water or inside a diggable wall. 16:18 doesn't slex already have that 16:18 <[Demo]> which is why im gonna effectively move the key 16:19 <[Demo]> probably to the law quest 16:19 <[Demo]> beneath illrgrd 16:19 aosdict: not exactly; the regular quest portal still gives a "faint telepathic message" if you enter the level it's on, and the alignment quests aren't strictly necessary 16:20 <@carlarc> thats a good idea 16:20 <[Demo]> whats a good lawful evil race/species other than illithid? 16:20 <@carlarc> what about those evil dwarves 16:21 <[Demo]> are those lawful? 16:21 <@carlarc> dunno 16:21 <@carlarc> probably not 16:21 <[Demo]> oh hmm they are 16:22 <@carlarc> oh they are 16:22 <@carlarc> yeah 16:22 <[Demo]> might also consider not doing the lawful evil thing and just doing a big formian ant hill 16:23 !tell AntiGulp porting parts of slicehack 14c82f3 and noticing some big deficiencies in how it was ported regarding permapoisoning grimtooth - vanilla assumes that only thrown projectiles are poisonable, so there are uhitm, mhitu, AND mhitm cases that don't cover its poison. 16:23 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 16:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:31 <@carlarc> YANI: barbarians and cavemen gain other things instead of spellbooks as a favor 16:32 <@carlarc> perhaps a small stack of highly enchanted arrows 16:33 <{Demo}1> Inc barbs are nasty casters 16:33 <@carlarc> well not inc barbs then 16:34 <{Demo}1> Inc caveman should be banned imo 16:34 <@carlarc> idk 16:34 <@carlarc> dont play it 16:34 <@luxidream> banned lol 16:34 <@luxidream> too op 16:35 <@luxidream> ban dwarven valk in tnnt 16:35 <@carlarc> wouldnt people play human valk then 16:36 <{Demo}1> Inc caveman just makes no sense 16:37 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 16:37 <@carlarc> incs are supposed to be like, royalish 16:37 <@carlarc> dunno why barb is an option for them 16:37 <{Demo}1> what 16:37 <@carlarc> kinda? 16:37 <@carlarc> at least not barbaric 16:38 <@luxidream> hey K2: what were most played roles in TNNT 16:38 <@luxidream> aside from startscums 16:38 no idea 16:38 <{Demo}1> oh yeah they wear robes 16:38 <@Tone> Arcs for sure 16:38 <@Tone> Cause of the other scum trophy 16:39 <{Demo}1> what roles should be inc banned? 16:39 <@Tone> Pull zen arcs out of the data too 😄 16:39 <{Demo}1> barb, cav, convict, binder, rogue 16:39 <@carlarc> why conv? 16:40 <{Demo}1> convicts are low life scum 16:40 <{Demo}1> not turbo magicers 16:41 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:42 <@luxidream> hm I can't even filter by server on scoreboard 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 106 points, T:504, killed by a goblin 16:54 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:20858 16:57 <@Tone> Yeah the scoreboard is static 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41685 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41700 16:59 <@luxidream> aosdict: "If you have a scroll of charging and a stack of blank scrolls, a newly generated magic marker can get you intrinsic teleport control about 83% of the time." 17:01 <@luxidream> I haven't checked this statistic but it feels kind of sketchy, it's also very poor strategy advice 17:02 <@John Keel> I mean, that's 4-5 reverse genocides on tengu 17:02 <@John Keel> numbers sound about right 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21362 17:05 @luxidream It's also bogglingly indirect. You need to be a fairly experienced player to make the jump from "charging + fresh marker + scrolls (+ curse source...) = teleport control" 17:06 <@luxidream> to be fair, it's right below: "This table shows how many cursed scrolls of genocide you must read to have the listed chance at feeling controlled:" 17:15 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:19 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:20 well, I think I may have gotten to the bottom of at least one cause of extra memory allocations in this code 17:20 what a circus 17:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4493 17:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:41917 17:29 <@carlarc> huh, mind flayers have drow vision apparently 17:29 <@carlarc> that's weird 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19104 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6193 17:38 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 17:41 <@carlarc> ugh 17:42 <@carlarc> hmm 17:42 <@carlarc> where do i report dn bugs 17:44 you hope that Chris_ANG pops in for the first time in months 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:42289 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:42292 17:45 <@carlarc> guess i'll just tell demo 17:45 <@carlarc> for ndnh 17:45 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:46 <@carlarc> hmm 17:46 <@luxidream> like I said isn't Chris_ANG teaching rn 17:47 <@luxidream> he only checks in during breaks 17:47 I think there are also etherpads where you can put down bugs 17:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:49 <{Demo}1> what bug 17:50 <@carlarc> the Andromalius mark apparently can't be hidden; wiki says it makes your face look like a bad disguise, yet i have both a mask and a helmet on and shopkeeps blacklist me 17:51 <@carlarc> also using stolen items does not in fact unbind it 17:51 <@carlarc> what the hell 17:52 <{Demo}1> ah fuck so much shit regarding that is broken 17:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:55 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 15131 points, T:8675, killed by an energy vortex 17:58 <@carlarc> oh what the fuck 17:58 <@carlarc> how did this shopkeep die 17:58 <@carlarc> do orcs have a grudge to shopkeepers now? 17:58 rip 18:00 <{Demo}1> no 18:00 <{Demo}1> shk will fight undead 18:00 <{Demo}1> did some crazy zombies spawn 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:6359 18:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:09 <@carlarc> dunno 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] carlarc (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1476 points, T:2381, killed by a giant ant 18:24 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:33 are streaks only same-game concurrent wins? 18:34 like my back to back un/xnh ascensions don't count, but if I manage 2 xnh in a row then that's counted as a streak? 18:37 yeah 18:38 and the server rule is that the first game you begin on any server after your last win is the candidate for continuing the streak; other games started on servers when there's an "in-progress" streak game don't count towards it either way. 18:39 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 18:41 bouquet - the un/xnh back to back asc, you get to just pat yourself on the back 18:41 ouch, my back! 18:41 high fives 18:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQir5rAAes 18:41 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] UltimateThule (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:82713 18:48 so my dad is pretty obsessed with Ultima Thule stuff since new year's eve. It'd probably tickle him to see that player name. 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Bar Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:30141 19:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43672 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class ;), on T:30158 19:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:26598 19:32 <@riker> @carlarc just ping me or demo, I'll try to fix it later 19:32 <@riker> did you confirm it's definitely andro 19:32 <@riker> (re: bugs) 19:33 <{Demo}1> gonna remove the silver key's invoke 19:33 <@riker> why though 19:33 <{Demo}1> and put it on a separate item in the sigil 19:33 <@riker> fair 19:33 <{Demo}1> working on disassembling the silver key 19:34 <{Demo}1> so that the only reason to feel a need to go that deep into neu quest is cause u need it for the invocation 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Bar Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:31130 19:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:63675 20:01 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane12 (catthedd) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the ghost of Stane10, the former Conjurer, on T:1617 20:11 <{Demo}1> hmm, not sure what base object to make this artifact 20:11 <@carlarc> The Other Eye Of The Aethiopica 20:12 <@luxidream> The Other Hand of Vecna? 😛 20:12 <@riker> why not just the thumb 20:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13 <@carlarc> well demo whats the branch its in like 20:13 <@carlarc> if it related somehow to it thatd be nice 20:14 <{Demo}1> the spire 20:14 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 20:14 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:15 <{Demo}1> specifically the top 20:15 <{Demo}1> http://www.rilmani.org/timaresh/Sigil 20:25 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 17708 points, T:577, killed by a small mimic 20:32 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 13054 points, T:363, killed by a sewer rat 20:34 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane12 (catthedd) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Staff of Aesculapius", on T:5055 20:36 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 21192 points, T:721, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt, while sleeping 20:36 The werewolf wields a silver spear! 20:36 *facepalm* 20:40 You are caught in a sonic blast! Your emerald ring resonates and shatters! 20:40 what is this fuckery? 20:45 sonic damage: a new way for you to destroy wands and rings! 20:46 my beef is that i don't think there's any way to prevent this, not to mention i have no idea what equipment is vulnerable 20:46 <{Demo}1> sonic resistance 20:46 oh wait, splicehack has the earmuffs 20:46 yeah sonic resistance. you got some? 20:46 that prevents damage to yourself but probably not to items unless it was coded wrong 20:47 yeah i'd think so 20:47 not to mention unless she changed it, no one in their right mind wears earmuffs because they use the helmet slot 20:47 !whereis hothraxxa 20:47 PavelB: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl]: (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) T:10545 Fort Ludios level: 3 20:48 uhhh no 20:48 > fort ludios level 3 20:48 uh 20:48 new feature? 20:48 ludios has only one level even in splicehack 20:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was given Cleaver, on T:54818 20:48 no i'm in sokoban 20:48 AntiGulp isn't around 20:49 YANI: a multi-leveled fort ludios where the upper floors are smaller copies of the footprint of the fortress on the entry level 20:49 Unless it's a K2 bug? 20:50 i remember the k2 bug. had everyone scared shitless 20:50 My guess is that some branch was added or moved but not updated in some branch-name-labeling data 20:50 if you spell Y2K backwards, you get K2Y. COINCIDENCE?? 20:51 hothraxxa, what does it say in the dungeon overview 20:51 dungeon overview is correct 20:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was given Fire Brand, on T:54919 20:54 <{Demo}1> uh hmm... shouldnt random monster placement from des use goodpos? 20:57 <@carlarc> i've been rubbing this blessed magic lamp like 60 times and it hasn't come out yet 20:57 <@carlarc> what the ehll 20:58 <@carlarc> how unluck can i get 20:59 <@carlarc> okay what the hell is going on 20:59 <@carlarc> i have rubbed this magic lamp for like 5 minutes 20:59 <@carlarc> it's supposed to be a 1/3 chance 20:59 <[Demo]> haha 20:59 <[Demo]> its cancelled 20:59 <[Demo]> you got it from the first level of the depths 20:59 <[Demo]> its a prank magic lamp 21:00 <@carlarc> oh my god 21:00 <@carlarc> that is so evil 21:00 <@carlarc> is it still a permanent light source 21:00 <{Demo}1> try to light it :P 21:04 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11582 21:05 <@luxidream> polyfodder 21:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:55940 21:09 <{Demo}1> "You start bashing it with your quarterstaff. You succeed in forcing the lock. In fact, you've totally destroyed the Treasury of Proteus." 21:09 rip 21:10 <@carlarc> oh my god what 21:10 <@carlarc> that's amazing 21:11 <@luxidream> lmfao 21:11 <@luxidream> hahahaha 21:12 <@luxidream> why though 21:12 <{Demo}1> debug testing 21:12 <{Demo}1> cause it can generate with traps so im fixing that 21:12 <{Demo}1> and now im fixing destroying artifact containers by forcing them 21:15 <@carlarc> the treasury can generate with traps? 21:18 <{Demo}1> someone here said it happened to them and it got destroyed 21:18 <@luxidream> imagine getting the proteus 21:18 <@luxidream> wtf boom 21:18 <@luxidream> no more proteus 21:18 <@carlarc> that is amazing 21:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Nightmare, on T:56829 21:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:56875 21:19 <@carlarc> nightmare keeps dying to random zombies and vampires 21:20 <{Demo}1> yeah that is meant to be tweaked in the future according to chris 21:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:57009 21:22 <@carlarc> turns out that a weapon with iterative attacks synergizes really well with the role with iterative attacks 21:23 <{Demo}1> you only get the weapons iteration bonus on your first attack 21:23 <{Demo}1> its addition, not multiplication 21:23 <@carlarc> shame 21:23 <@carlarc> still, it's like what, six attacks in total? 21:23 <@carlarc> three from the first, and two more from the iterative 21:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 t-shirt named Totally Awesome", on T:67110 21:23 <@carlarc> seven if at 30 21:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:67119 21:24 bouquet: pfft, everyone knows the Really Cool Shirt is where it's at 21:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:57115 21:25 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:57325 21:28 I had a shirt in elementary school that said Totally Awesome and it was serious. 21:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Garland, on T:57806 21:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:57811 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 204 points, T:548, killed by a Kop Sergeant 21:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:43, on T:67600 21:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:43, on T:67601 21:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67606 21:43 double trouble there? 21:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:67863 21:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:58892 21:45 <{Demo}1> :( rip oona 21:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:67929 21:46 party in the sanctum 21:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:68207 21:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:68212 21:56 <@carlarc> wow, weeping angels have -125 AC 21:56 <@carlarc> that's insane 21:56 <{Demo}1> that is if you are looking at it 21:56 <{Demo}1> if you arent looking at it then it goes down 21:56 <@carlarc> neat 22:08 <@carlarc> i found a weird-looking cavern room with an engraving next to the upstairs that said "BEWARE OF GRUE", what's up w/that 22:09 ya, double trouble right out of bed. 22:09 You will likely be eaten by a Grue. 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:34816 22:10 <@luxidream> are there like maggots everywhere 22:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Grue, on T:60957 22:10 <@luxidream> ok 22:10 <@luxidream> yep 22:10 <@carlarc> he deals a lotta damage 22:11 <@carlarc> the level would probably be a bit harder if it didn't have 30 candles 22:11 <@carlarc> wait, why is there a maze in the next level 22:11 <@carlarc> did it replace medusa? 22:11 <@carlarc> neat 22:13 <@luxidream> it does 22:13 <@luxidream> does he do anything special in the dark? 22:14 https://xkcd.com/91/ 22:14 I think in the dnethack implementation it can instakill you in the dark, but not sure about splice 22:15 <@carlarc> no 22:15 <@carlarc> he flees from you in the light 22:16 <@carlarc> and in the dark he deals a lotta damage and engulfs 22:17 silly, a medusa-equivalent monster should have a medusa-equivalent instakill threat 22:18 <@carlarc> yeah its a bit underwhelmign 22:18 <@carlarc> hmm 22:19 <@carlarc> right below the mazes there's a level that kinda looks like the castle, but it's mostly filled with a forest, rivers, and player monsters 22:19 <@carlarc> what's up w/ that 22:24 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:70167 22:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor in the End Game, on T:70169 22:26 <@carlarc> "What monster do you want to genocide? master lichen" A thunderous voice booms through the caverns: "No, mortal! That will not be done." 22:26 <@carlarc> does this mean that they actually exist in the code 22:26 Try it with another made-up name 22:26 <@carlarc> nope 22:26 <@carlarc> arch-lichen did the such creatures do not exist 22:26 <@luxidream> probably parsing as "master" 22:27 <@carlarc> oh right 22:27 <@carlarc> shame 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 177 points, T:583, killed by a coyote 22:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:70436 22:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:70488 22:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:70505 22:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2952988 points, T:70517, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/xnethack/dumplog/1548642367.xnh.txt 22:34 <{Demo}1> ncie 22:35 !streak bouquet 22:35 bouquet: [hdf-us] bouquet Max[xnh]: 2 (2019-01-22 - 2019-01-31)(current). 22:35 first streak ever! 22:35 <@carlarc> grats 22:35 that was a very rewarding run. Had to fight for everything. 22:36 aand gray dragon scales 22:36 also my least number of genocides. Only the Lich family this time. 22:36 congrats, bouquet! 22:36 <@Tone> grats bouquet! 😄 22:36 thanks! Glad I wrapped that up tonight so I can just sit in meetings and drink beer all day tomorrow. 22:37 my game has been the same 22:37 the most annoying part has been the total lack of any kind of bag 22:37 I was hoping for the xnh fire/frost brand dual wield opportunity but my deity was stingy and only granted stormy. 22:37 oh6: that's such a PITA 22:38 it's pretty annoyin 22:38 g 22:38 I've had games like that before. I hate blowing a wish on a BoH 22:38 this game has been wishless so far - if I find gauntlets of power I may just use a large box 22:38 Well, since I'm done soaking up all the RNG good luck I shall grant you the remaining luck 22:39 * oh6 pulls out a luckstone and aims it at the luck 22:39 I had to wish up my GDSM for MR. Didn't find any other source all game. 22:42 that was the fewest rodney encounters ever. Only fought him twice (not counting double trouble) in the dungeon, then the oblig plane of earth appearance. 22:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed 2 scrolls of charging", on T:62620 22:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:62621 22:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +4 Shield of the Resolute Heart", on T:62622 22:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed greased fixed amulet of life saving", on T:62852 22:54 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 46617 points, T:6307, killed by a leocrotta 23:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:30 -!- Canadian92 has joined #hardfought 23:30 -!- Canadian92 has quit [Client Quit] 23:30 <@carlarc> oh my god 23:30 <@carlarc> what a fucking 23:30 <@carlarc> shitty death 23:31 <@carlarc> jesus christ 23:31 <@carlarc> i hate gugs 23:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1854048 points, T:66065, killed by a skeleton, while paralyzed by a monster 23:31 <@carlarc> yeah just steal my free action and paralyze me 23:31 <@carlarc> that's fucking stupid 23:32 @dnh?gug 23:32 <@carlarc> also steal my amulet of life saving 23:32 <@carlarc> yes 23:32 @d?gug 23:32 gug (Y) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 18 | Res: cold poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 15 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Attacks: 2d6 weapon physical, 1d6 claw physical, 1d6 claw physical, 1d12 hug physical, 3d6 bite paralyze, 1d6 claw item steal | Alignment: -4 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, tunnels, thick hide, poisonous, stalker 23:32 yeah, nasty monsters those gugs are 23:32 @sl?gug 23:32 @se?gug 23:33 !who 23:33 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] LittleBilly [nh362] catthedd [fh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 23:33 @slshm?gug 23:33 @sm?gug 23:33 could someone help me with using beholder here? 23:33 @slex?Gug 23:33 @s?gug 23:33 gug ~2~ dog (d) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 16 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Attacks: 1d6 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 23:34 @sx?gug 23:35 <@carlarc> !lastgame Carlarc 23:35 @carlarc: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/carlarc/dnethack/dumplog/1548856472.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/c/carlarc/slashem/dumplog/1546940608.slashem.txt 23:36 <@carlarc> wait that wasn't a gug 23:36 <@carlarc> i'm dumb 23:37 <@carlarc> it was a wombo-combo of invisible nymph and shade 23:37 <@carlarc> thats what 6 charisma does i guess 23:40 well, for slashem's gug, I can check the wiki 23:40 @le?pikachu 23:40 pikachu (r) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 13 | Res: shock | Confers: shock | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 7 | Attacks: 3d3 bite shock, 3d3 breath shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, oviparous, infravisible 23:40 thanks 23:40 @le?gug 23:40 gug (Z) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 18 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 15 | Generates: special | AC: 5 | Attacks: 2d6 claw physical, 2d6 claw physical, 3d6 bite paralyze | Alignment: -4 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, tunnels, thick hide, poisonous, undead, stalker 23:41 but yeah, that item stealing attack added in dnethack makes them really nasty 23:41 i was not previously aware slex has pikachu 23:41 but i just assumed it did 23:41 really evil patch idea: monsters steal items in order by their value 23:41 @le?pichu 23:41 pichu ~2~ Micha (k) | Lvl: 17 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 12 | Res: disintegrate petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: unique | AC: 5 | Attacks: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d4 kick physical, 2d8 lashing blind | Alignment: 4 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, stalker 23:41 amulets of life saving and free action first 23:42 <@carlarc> honestly that felt real at the moment lmao 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] LittleBilly (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 192 points, T:776, killed by a dwarf 23:45 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane12 (catthedd) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the ghost of Qi, the former Excursionist, on T:16574 23:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] LittleBilly (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 124 points, T:799, killed by a sewer rat