00:02 saw the name in a pull request once before. That's all I know. https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/130/commits/01f40dcbfe6d83b80ae8d3d889349532453a916c 00:02 oh right 00:03 K2's ill advised "hey devteam you should merge all of splicehack unconditionally" pull request 00:03 that was an accident 00:04 oh 00:04 that looks like msearle provided a fix to antigulp 00:05 yep, early on 00:09 <{Demo}1> I feel like msearle has a pretty high value 00:12 this esxi setup in the florida exec office is possessed 00:13 i want to wipe them and rebuild it fresh 00:13 but i dont want to fly down there again 00:13 isaac 00:15 if you hook an ISAAC64 rng up to posix sockets code, do you get the bind()ing of isaac? 00:18 <{Demo}1> lmao 00:19 nerd humor 00:19 \o/ 00:30 -!- nhmall has quit [] 00:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:39 just one more orphaned VM to reclaim 00:39 bah 00:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:18 -!- quailchaser is now known as sodastabs 01:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2064 points, T:1640, killed by a black unicorn 01:52 some of the msearle stuff I do *not* like is making more effects that are dependent on Luck 01:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1239 points, T:1556, quit 01:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:4289 02:23 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 02:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4334 02:28 -!- Gaelan has quit [Client Quit] 02:35 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 02:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 02:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:09 [hdf-us] [fh] carlarc (Mon Hum Mal Law) let a gnomish wizard genocide white unicorns, on T:505 03:10 <@carlarc> The gnomish wizard reads a scroll labeled PRATYAVAYAH! The gnomish wizard has found a scroll of genocide! Wiped out all wiped unicorns. DYWYPI? 03:11 <@carlarc> @FIQ yeah maybe polyinit should make your polyform ungenocidable or something 03:11 [hdf-us] [fh] carlarc (Mon Hum Mal Law), 27915 points, T:505, wiped out by a monster's scroll of genocide, in polyinit mode 03:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:75790 03:15 * LarienTelrunya resists the urge to say something about monsters being able to read genocide :P 03:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:75843 03:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2462640 points, T:75864, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/arnibald/nh361/dumplog/1547516196.nh361.txt 03:35 <@carlarc> grats 04:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8330 04:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:27 6 temples to kos! never seen that many temples on a map 04:28 or have I just been playing far to little? 04:30 that is rather a lot 04:34 not impossibly lucky, but approximately three-wows-in-a-game lucky I'd say 04:35 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:39 good to hear, then I know I am not (that) unlucky 04:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5633 04:40 well, maybe the rng decided to spend all your luck on temples and now you find no wish sources other than castle :P 04:48 :D 04:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:52 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11988 05:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:12904 05:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:13311 05:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1224 points, T:1825, killed by a giant bat 06:06 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1573 points, T:1286, killed by a water moccasin 06:29 aosdict: the isaac64 thing is not that freaky. unnethack uses the 32 bit version of isaac (the main difference is performance, you can seed either with whatever you want). 06:30 it also took a different implementation. I used the one from the ccan 06:32 -!- j has joined #hardfought 06:32 -!- j is now known as rebatela 06:34 <@carlarc> hmm 06:34 <@carlarc> anyone know how i can ID a gray stone in a container 06:34 <@carlarc> other than #tippin 06:47 <@Tone> Pick up the container and see how heavy it is? 06:47 <@Tone> Destroy the container? 06:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:49 identify all other gray stones so the one you haven't got is the loadstone 06:49 and then when you find another loadstone name it on the floor so you can check whether you were right about the one in the container 06:50 why don't you want to #tip? 06:52 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:53 <@carlarc> playing a variant that doesnt have it 06:53 <@carlarc> you can't name loadstones 06:53 <@carlarc> btw 06:54 I assume you're playing a variant that doesn't have naming of things on the floor either, or you could 06:55 (if it's actually on the floor and not in a container) 06:55 <@carlarc> that's weird 06:56 what? that you can or that you can't? 06:56 #name, choose f for floor, point to the object, typename it 06:56 (you can only typename on the floor, not individual-name) 06:57 in vanilla (3.6.2), that is 07:32 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Master Kaen, on T:22815 07:33 !tell antigulp a ghoul left a corpse, which seems wrong since the pokedex itself says they don't 07:33 Will do, oh6! 07:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22860 07:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:15964 07:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:23156 07:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:23156 08:06 <@carlarc> >anachrononaut has a >1% chance of a Dread Seraph spawning on the quest 08:06 <@carlarc> bad. very bad 08:07 aren't they asleep until you have the amulet? Not that the ana quest is meant to be a picnic :) 08:07 Tangles: Message from aosdict at 2019-01-24 16:52 EST: The livelog should arguably not register "averted death" if you are dying to something like brainlessness where life saving won't help 08:07 blah 08:07 oh hey Tangles 08:07 hey 08:07 Hello Tangles, Welcome to #hardfought 08:07 hey beholder 08:08 yes yes... hello Beholder 08:08 ;) 08:08 more ESXi VMware shenanigans last night 08:08 aosdict: I was not aware of that issue. 08:08 you 'avert death' 08:08 then just die anyway? 08:09 yes 08:09 <@carlarc> "Quest guardians If #chatting before the quest is complete: "The sepulchers have opened! The Seraphs are rising to the surface!"" 08:10 [hdf-us] [spl] oh6 (Ran Dro Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24566 08:11 K2: I have to renew my VCP before feb 22 or thereabouts, to qualify for the delta exam. I don't know how much spare time they think I have. 08:11 oh boy 08:12 i have zero certs from vmware :P 08:12 when i started this job a lil over a year ago my then IT manager said 'here, figure this stuff out' 08:13 Unfortunately I work for a partner, and the partnershp level demands that a certain number of certs be kept current. 08:13 i wish we had that here 08:13 It would be ok if we were just VMware partners... 08:14 but unfortunately Nutanix, Fortinet, Veeam & co all have the same expectation. 08:17 those sound like pesticide manufacturers 08:17 we use fortigate firewalls here 08:17 again, 'here learn this stuff, good luck' 08:17 best way for me to learn actually 08:17 * K2 shrugs 08:17 heh 08:18 so you missed it 08:18 i had another astral splat on sporkhack yesterday 08:18 and i was sober 08:18 Nah... I saw it in the backscroll. 08:18 sad :/ 08:18 i know 08:18 death whupped my ass 08:19 so helm of B was a tinfoil hat this game which blocks all esp 08:19 Oh yeah that's annoying. 08:19 and invis/see invis times out in spork 08:19 so i couldnt see him except for warning 08:19 worse when it's helm of telepathy... literally no point. 08:19 right 08:19 so i zapped my wand of death at the first 5 i saw 08:19 of course it was Death 08:19 oh boy 08:19 here, have a boost 08:20 heh 08:20 so yeah no more tinfoil hats in my spork games 08:20 its been a nuisance before but this contributed to me dying in astral this time 08:20 blah 08:21 yeah... things can go downhill really fast on spork astral. One thing goes wrong, and it can spiral. 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24904 08:23 yup 08:23 i even deployed purple rain 08:23 was fairly clear 08:23 ah well 08:24 i will try again 08:24 yeah... just gotta start again 08:24 so whats new with you 08:25 {Demo}1: Samba and rsync were mostly developed by an Australian. 08:25 K2: I've been busy. 08:25 Sorry haven't been around much. 08:26 I noticed ;) 08:26 but yeah all good 08:27 I still haven't fixed the PSU on my dev box... but I'll get that done hopefully over the next few days. 08:27 do you need a psu? i have a couple spare 08:27 s/fixed/replaced/ 08:27 heh 08:27 you may need a plug adapter but the voltage range is universal 08:28 * K2 doesnt know the plug layout in australia 08:28 Should I just drop by and pick it up? ;) 08:28 heck yeah 08:28 we miss your face 08:28 come on by ;) 08:28 haha 08:31 Maybe you should have you guys over here. I'll have to flush the squatters out of my place first though. 08:31 would love to come down 08:32 we wanna take mini-me to hawaii in a couple years 08:32 could add aussie to the itinerary 08:32 Don't come in Jan/Feb though. The weather has been disgusting. 08:32 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 08:33 duly noted 08:33 i just texted the better half, told her we're going to australia too 08:33 lol 08:34 we'll see what she says 08:34 :P 08:34 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 08:34 oh hey speaking of travel... dublin this august? 08:34 worldcon! 08:34 \o/ 08:34 Oh yeah I have been thinking about that. 08:34 I think hothraxxa may go 08:34 he was seriously giving it a look 08:35 i've already booked my flights 08:35 and of course raisse and elenmirie are in 08:37 Yeah would be good to see those guys. 08:38 its gonna be a blast 08:38 might have to see if I can make it part of a larger trip... long way to fly for just a few days. 08:39 yeah 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:26531 08:44 but yeah I am keen. I'll try to get it booked soon. 08:44 Cannot install the vCenter Server agent service. Unknown installer error 08:45 * K2 sighs 08:45 heh 08:45 per the logs on these esxi machines in the florida office, i think there's a serious issue with the SD card or interface 08:45 read on forums for this model server they need to be swapped out 08:45 DAMMIT 08:46 sounds like you're going back to florida. 08:47 dont talk like that 08:47 i thought we were friends! aaaaarrrrghh 08:47 :P 08:47 but florida is nice this time of year! ;) 08:48 i'm going to curl up into the fetal position now... 08:48 lol 08:49 i'll send our helpdesk guy 08:49 he's only been once 08:49 i've been down there 4 times already 08:50 lol yeah delegate that shit :) 08:50 muhahaha 08:50 the SAN down there needs to be redone too 08:50 its all jacked up like the one here was 08:50 *was* 08:51 no spares 08:51 no read ahead cache 08:51 shit show 08:52 If you need to replace hosts and storage... maybe have a look at hyperconverged. 08:52 hmm 08:52 I work for a Nutanix partner. I can get you a good deal ;) 08:53 ...and no I do not (and never will) work in sales. 08:53 hahaha 08:53 execs wont shell out money for that 08:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Ana Dwa Fem Cha), 135400 points, T:19693, killed by an invisible myrkalfar warrior 08:54 its like pulling teeth just to get more HDD's for the array 08:54 hah yeah. 08:54 <@carlarc> nice that peaceful monsters cast invisible while you can't see invisible 08:54 no its ok if we run out of space 08:54 sure... 08:54 our internal infrastructure is a bit like that. 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:27159 09:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:05 Anyway, K2... it's 1am here so I'm going to bed. 09:05 alrighty 09:05 gnite! o/ 09:05 Good luck with the ESXi hosts. 09:05 thanks 09:05 'night 09:08 <{Demo}1> wait k2 aren't you in polar vortex hell? 09:08 <{Demo}1> where it's like -30? 09:08 no thats the midwest 09:08 <{Demo}1> oh 09:08 its a balmy 15° F here 09:09 <{Demo}1> that still sucks 09:09 <{Demo}1> Florida was 60 yesterday 09:09 <{Demo}1> if there's ever a good time to have to go to Florida for work it's when it's cold as shit 09:10 this is exactly what I was saying! 09:10 * Tangles proceeds to stay up for another hour writing a song about a girl... 09:11 relocate virtual machine stuck at 26% 09:11 fml 09:12 just checking hardware status on one of the boxes: A general system error occurred: Retrieve IPMI SEL request to host failed 09:12 woot 09:14 Bootbank cannot be found at path '/bootbank' (2019-01-30T14:03:38.480Z cpu0:111286) <--- that's the log entries that concern me 09:19 so it turns out regular elves count as own race sacrifice if you're a drow in splicehack 09:19 at least I have a robe now 09:20 ;) 09:21 <@Tone> Yeah it's about 100° warmer here in FL than it is in places like Chicago today 09:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:35 <{Demo}1> jesus 09:36 <{Demo}1> by like -5 if the air is too dry I can't breath right 09:36 <{Demo}1> I can only imagine -40 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:31154 09:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4185 09:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 helm of brilliance", on T:31192 09:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:47 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 51944 points, T:13685, killed by an ettin zombie 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:31797 09:50 [hdf-us] [spl] oh6 (Ran Dro Fem Neu), 123748 points, T:29425, killed by a death ray 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 903 points, T:1428, killed by a rabid rat, while praying 09:51 !tell antigulp using pokedex for a monster without an entry causes program in disorder 09:51 I'm on it, hothraxxa. 09:53 What doesn't have an entry? 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 304 points, T:628, killed by a Keystone Kop 09:53 a hopkeeper for example 09:53 shopkeeper 09:55 !tell antigulp actually it's more complicated than that. using it for a gem or rock, for example, which does have an entry. error is curses-associated: curses_display_nhmenu: attempt to display empty menu 09:55 I'm on it, hothraxxa. 09:57 !tell tangles using pokedex on some items (eg rocks) in splicehack causes program in disorder. error is curses-associated: curses_display_nhmenu: attempt to display empty menu 09:57 Will do, hothraxxa! 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1162 09:57 NetHack points at you, then curses. 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:32276 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:32304 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "nx", on T:3848 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:32741 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4584 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:33791 10:32 this is definitely nsfw but absolutely hilarious: http://wolvesofodin.ca/ 10:33 yes, we have white supremacists in canada. apparently they let their domain lapse. oopsies! 10:34 <{Demo}1> ahhhh 10:55 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:55 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 11264 points, T:6248, quit 11:07 !lastgame Luxidream 11:07 PavelB: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nh361/dumplog/1548860029.nh361.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 11:07 Dumplogs for 362 end in nh361.txt 🤔 11:08 <{Demo}1> I don't understand why quit? 11:08 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:09 @Luxidream y tho 11:09 PavelB: Technically they're playing 3.6.1 since 3.6.2 isn't out yet. 11:09 <@luxidream> nothing to beat castle 11:09 <{Demo}1> ah 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 954 points, T:1364, killed by a giant spider 11:10 rip 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1806 points, T:1850, quit 11:18 !lastgame Luxidream 11:18 PavelB: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nh361/dumplog/1548864613.nh361.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 11:18 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 11:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:35414 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 741 points, T:1891, killed by a hill orc called Omathoz of Abolishorctownin3.7 11:32 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 520 points, T:923, killed by a hill orc called Toorwcn of Orctown%SpeedrunWorldRecord 11:36 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 448 points, T:1718, killed by a magic missile 11:38 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:41 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4285 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4288 11:51 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/540212490714480663/Screen_Shot_2019-01-30_at_8.50.14_AM.png 11:52 <@Tone> heh, nice 😄 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35869 11:52 <@Tone> Yeah shops are pretty common on the first four or five floors 11:53 but… all general stores? 11:53 <@Tone> Yeah that's just lucky 11:53 <@Tone> Although I assume they are one of the more common options 11:54 Certain types of stores get converted into general stores if they are larger than a certain size. 11:55 This is why you never see e.g. a large wand shop. 11:55 So yes, the chance of general stores is larger than other shop types. 12:00 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36336 12:06 i) a pair of paper fingerless gloves 12:06 does not inspire confidence with c corpses 12:06 nevertheless, searching! 12:07 I think fingerless gloves indeed do not protect you from c corpses. 12:07 they shouldn't imo 12:08 kind of screws over the starting rogue tho 12:08 what does it have to do with starting rogues 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8525 12:09 i thought splicehack rogues started with fingerless gloves 12:09 instead of leather as per vanilla 12:09 well they could be leather fingerless gloves of course 12:09 but fingerless 12:09 I thought fingerless was a randomized description 12:11 oh so it is. rogues start with rogues gloves, which provide searching. so these are probably useless 12:12 I mean, if you want to wield a c corpse, you've probably found some non-fingerless gloves by that time that you can forfeit your searching for, temporarily 12:12 no doubt. i don't have any gloves right now so i got overexcited 12:13 so that explains why bookstores and ring shops are never all that big 12:15 how big would you like? i know i've had a 5x12 bookstore. where's the cutoff jonadab? 12:15 I've seen some *fairly* big ring shops. 12:15 hothraxxa: used bookstore or new bookstore? (mainly scrolls or books?) 12:15 used 12:15 yeah, it's the mainly-books store that gets turned to general if it's too large 12:15 are there new bookstores? i don't think i've ever noticed one 12:16 whatever it's called 12:16 rare books 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a human zombie, on T:11238 12:16 the reasoning is because you don't want a wizard to find every single spell at once on level 2 12:16 i've had large bookstores and used armour shops, but i don't recall any large hardware stores 12:17 large hardware stores are fine 12:17 alos had pretty big liquor stores. maybe it's level dependent? 12:18 no, it's a simple rule: if it's a rare books store or a quality apparel and accessories store, and the room is larger than 20 spaces in area, it turns into a general store. 12:18 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 12:18 https://abload.de/img/giantbookshoprae0m.png :D 12:18 ah, *rare* bookstore. i've seen those 12:19 er 12:19 the level doesn't factor into it at all 12:19 rare books store 12:20 I think that means the largest possible rare books or apparel store would have 16 items: a 4x5 room where the door is on a wall with 4 spaces. 12:20 no wait 12:20 hothraxxa: I don't recall the cutoff. 12:21 it could theoretically be a 10x2 store with the door on a wall with 2 spaces, giving you 18 items 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:13280 12:22 <@Tone> Outside of that requirement, is shop type completely random? 12:23 Looks like it's isbig(sroom) 12:23 <@Tone> Health food stores seem rare too but maybe that's just my games 12:23 int area = (sroom->hx - sroom->lx + 1) * (sroom->hy - sroom->ly + 1); return (boolean) (area > 20); 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 84650 points, T:13750, quit 12:25 And yeah, it's wand and spellbook shops that get converted. 12:26 (And rare item shops, in Fourk) 12:35 <@luxidream> rare item shops? 12:35 <@luxidream> are they just stocked with wow? 12:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:43 !tell antigulp program in disorder when using pokedex on fizzy gel 12:43 Will do, hothraxxa! 12:45 hothraxxa: I think "fizzy gel" isn't actually a monster, there's a single "gel" monster that has its name randomized" 12:45 minus " 12:46 ok. using pokedex on whatever it is causes program in disorder 12:46 jonadab: I don't see a rare item shop listed in fourk. Is it a relatively new feature? 12:46 nothing on gels in the wiki 12:47 the splice page is lagging far behind 12:47 she said that 12:47 anyway what they do is they give you random potion effects when they hit, or something like that 12:47 vapor effects? don't remember 12:47 hm. i killed it with force bolt, not wanting to hit it 12:48 sometime here soon i'm going to rename nh361 to just 'nh' or 'nethack' 12:49 seeing nh361 irks me 12:49 its not 361 ;) 12:49 actually they engulf you and then give you potion (not vapor) effects 12:49 which could be good i suppose? 12:49 K2: didn't 3.4.3 used to be "nh" 12:50 hothraxxa: so, it'll never be the blessed effect, and it will be cursed effect 50% of the time 12:50 call it vnh 12:50 3.4.3 was always nh343 12:50 also, the potion will never be gain level, any healing, gain energy, or gain ability; if it picks one of those it will be acid instead 12:53 ok so stay back from gels 12:54 <@Tone> Too bad it can't be cursed gain level then 😄 12:54 !tell AntiGulp Since gels use m_id to determine their potion effect without any hashing or anything, it seems like you could exploit monster creation to cause a gel of a certain potion type to be created. 12:54 I'm on it, aosdict. 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh343] UltimateThule (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:81567 12:57 !tell AntiGulp there's a commit somewhere in xnh that adds hashing routines for this purpose; git log hacklib.c should find it. 12:57 No worries, aosdict, I've got this! 12:58 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 18484 points, T:13067, sent to the grave by a monstrous spider 12:58 that was pretty sudden and disappointing :( 13:00 hugs 13:01 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 13:02 the spider wanted hugs too 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1412 points, T:2696, killed by a water demon 13:03 hugs for everyone 13:03 (and everything) 13:04 reminds me of my old idea for giant spiders to be able to stick you in a web 13:05 (and I suppose other spiders in splice) 13:06 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:07 so what happened was i fought a green mold warrior, who multiplied by infecting a corpse (hi aosdict molds) 13:08 uh what 13:08 my molds can't multiply by actively infecting corpses 13:08 i killed both of them but the acid splashes took me down to abou 15 hp and this monstrous spider was too fast to get away from 13:08 no they grow on corpses 13:08 who needs zombie apocalypse when you can get mold apocalypse 13:08 I guess in splice, the random F that grows on a corpse could be a mold warrior though 13:08 seems like it could 13:15 new shirt message: "It is easier to light the darkness than to curse a candle" 13:15 Is that a reference or..? 13:16 no, it's riffing on two of the existing shirt messages in vanilla 13:16 "It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" / "It is easier to curse the darkness than to light a candle" 13:17 ah 13:24 <@luxidream> that should be a true rumor, aosdict 13:24 yeah but it fits in with shirt messages 13:25 meh it can be both I guess 13:27 !tell AntiGulp was porting slicehack 0c2a300 and noticed that some of its cases do x = somex(); y = somey(); if ACCESSIBLE(x,y) make_some_object(somex(), somey()); which is a bug 13:27 I'm on it, aosdict. 13:28 why's it a bug? 13:29 because when it actually makes the object it ignores the x and y it already calculated and picks new random ones 13:29 oh, dur 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:36877 13:50 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:03 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 14:06 do you feel bad when you re-watch an anime because you think to yourself that you could watch a new one in that time? 14:06 so according to the devteam, probabilities of 0.2^100 are impossible 14:06 according to javascript, 2^1024 is infinity 14:08 According to Wolfram, it's 12*^-70 14:09 But, .2^1000 is General::munfl: 0.2^1000 is too small to represent as a normalized machine number 14:09 anyway it makes it possible to print "Program in disorder" when the program is not in any disorder, just the exceptionally unlikely happened 14:10 according to my kid, 10 minutes is an infinity 14:10 aosdict: I think that's a reasonable assumption to make 14:10