00:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] LittleBilly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 17063 points, T:9540, killed by a priest of Tyr 00:10 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 00:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 00:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:21147 00:13 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 00:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 00:13 . 00:13 AntiGulp: Messages from @luxidream, aosdict, Tangles, LarienTelrunya, K2, PavelB, and @carlarc have been forwarded to you privately. 00:14 I'm so sorry. 00:14 (hi antigulp!) 00:14 <@luxidream> F 00:14 oh god 00:14 Why did *I* send AntiGulp 00:14 honestly no clue 00:14 <@luxidream> This is what happens when you’re gone for a month 00:15 i hate beholder's PMing feature 00:15 This is my punishment 00:15 Thanks Beholder 00:15 PavelB: it was a wikimedia link to a drop bear 00:15 Ah 00:15 AGH 00:15 I remember that conversation now 00:15 I didn’t realize it was fullscreen 00:15 That was terrifying 00:16 you're welcome 00:16 I guess I should check beholder messages too 00:16 OK, I checked quite recently, so I think they were all celared out 00:16 *cleared 00:17 So, AntiGulp, drop bears in spl when? 00:17 Drop bears in splice since last version 00:17 ah 00:17 They drop like piercers but deal more damage 00:17 I think? 00:17 Did anyone !tell you about hdf tiles support 00:18 because that's a thing you should know about 00:18 No, surprisingly, I just found out about it through reddit. Apparently K2 didn’t know that Splice already has a tileset that I put together months ago. 00:18 <@carlarc> how in the hell do you open the vlad dnethack drawbridge 00:19 No K2 knew (I know about it because he mentioned it) 00:19 I think he'd want you to email him the tiles image file 00:20 * aosdict greps #hardfought log for '!tell antigulp' just to catch up 00:20 Ah, gotcha. 00:20 Yeah I’ve got like half a page of messages 00:20 <@luxidream> wand of striking 00:20 <@luxidream> Surely you have that 00:21 <@carlarc> i've tried force bolt, striking, knock, bell of opening 00:21 let's stop enabling K2 so he can learn the very easy way to build tiles 00:21 <@carlarc> and even mastermind 00:21 <@luxidream> try force bolting the iron bars 00:21 isn't there just a shellscript you do that spits out a png 00:21 <@luxidream> this sounds stupid but I remember it working during jnh 00:22 oh dang I reported a splice bug that tangles got to first 00:22 <@carlarc> uhh okay 00:22 <@luxidream> we were running characters to vlad 00:22 !whereis carlarc 00:22 PavelB: [hdf-us] carlarc [dnh]: (Tou Hum Fem Neu) T:61426 Vlad's Tower level: 3 00:22 <@luxidream> and using inc samurai 00:23 <@carlarc> wow it worked 00:23 <@carlarc> OH im dumb 00:23 regarding carlarc's tell about perm_invent, that was just the bug with it not rendering at game start 00:23 <@luxidream> what lol 00:23 <@carlarc> i didn't realize that that part of the level was unlit 00:23 <@luxidream> lmao 00:23 <@carlarc> so i didn't recheck after first zapping it with striking 00:24 the first time I force-bolted the drawbridge in vlads tower I was only standing 2 spaces away from it, and got smunched 00:25 <@carlarc> that would have made me so mad 00:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:22043 00:26 it's so dumb 00:26 How do I email K2? 00:26 your character can shrug off attacks from literal demons and can be instakilled by a glorified wood plank falling on him 00:27 I just used a github gist 00:27 as in, upload the file to a gist and send K2 a link over irc, rather than actually email 00:27 or we could yell at him "Hey K2, just cd into the util directory, run make tile2bmp, and run ./tile2bmp splice_tiles.bmp!" 00:28 <@carlarc> this nurse 00:28 <@carlarc> is trying to heal me, but she's wielding a scalpel so she only heals the damage she's doing 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:9196 00:32 > Legendary lichen corpses still rotting AAAARGH. I’ve fixed this bug like 80 times, and it just keeps coming back. 00:32 because you don't want to have to send k2 another tile image every time you add a monster or object 00:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:61912 00:32 AntiGulp: The part of that that most intrigues me is the existance of legendary lichen corpses 00:33 it's a new monster. 00:33 not, like, an artifact lichen corpse or something 00:33 Ah 00:33 Here I was hoping for an artifact corpse :/ 00:33 Luxidream has reported “My legendary lichen corpses are rotting” every single release. I think I fix it, and then it turns out I didn’t. It’s now a feature maybe? 00:33 <{Demo}1> it's corpse is not persistent 00:34 LarienTelrunya, when you read this, please add an artifact lichen corpse :) 00:34 <@carlarc> legendary partly eaten chickatrice corpse 00:34 !tell K2 The splice master branch has (in addition to some bugfixes) a tileset file. 00:34 I'm on it, AntiGulp. 00:35 I would definitely wish for a legendary cockatrice corpse 00:35 Searched for splicehack on gh, found slicehack: https://github.com/msearle5/slicehack 00:36 <{Demo}1> what 00:36 <{Demo}1> no 00:36 <@luxidream> pfft 00:36 WAIT 00:36 <@luxidream> hahaha 00:36 <{Demo}1> I reject this 00:36 <@carlarc> how hard is dn vlad? 00:36 No hold on this is actually amazing I have a story 00:36 <{Demo}1> he has escorts 00:36 So several months ago 00:36 <{Demo}1> he's weak 00:36 I see at least one case in the code where there's code for PM_LIZARD and PM_LICHEN but not PM_LEGENDARY_LICHEN 00:36 so maybe start by finding all the PM_LICHEN cases in the code 00:36 <@carlarc> he's not a follower right 00:36 <@carlarc> or warper 00:37 <{Demo}1> he warps 00:37 :D story time with AntiGulp 00:37 <@luxidream> he has sexy gaze 00:37 I’m dealing with this impossible to fix bug, and this user called “msearle05” with no github history pops in and posts a fix for it. 00:37 <@luxidream> I think 00:37 <{Demo}1> and follows 00:37 <{Demo}1> like usual 00:37 It was a REALLY obscure bug 00:37 Like required intimate knowledge of the source obscure 00:37 <@carlarc> yeah i haven't fought vlad all that much 00:37 <@carlarc> i'll just engrave some acherons 00:37 And I was like who IS this 00:37 microsoft earle (tm) 2005 00:37 AntiGulp: it could be someone who likes the project but hates github 00:37 I thought it was K2 or someone in this IRC 00:38 Now they’re back and have a variant of Splice? What???? 00:38 <@luxidream> you have fan girl 00:38 looks like the commits petered out around the beginning of november 00:38 Did they make any interesting changes(I can't even tell) 00:38 <{Demo}1> antigulp you didn't make this any better 00:39 <{Demo}1> with the backstory 00:39 <{Demo}1> just makes it worse 00:39 <{Demo}1> lol 00:39 oh well lol 00:39 <{Demo}1> I think they fixed some of your bugs maybe? 00:39 https://github.com/msearle5/slicehack/commit/8561b7ae59f5d7f1ae0cb0e48d29206344df14b9 00:39 > Legendary lichens don't rot 00:39 XD 00:39 <{Demo}1> look through the commits 00:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:23071 00:40 It’s a lot of bugfixes, and then a lot of interesting features 00:40 I feel inadequite, this is really good 00:40 AntiGulp: You could just make a macro that reports if a corpse rots or 00:40 time for splice to become a two person devteam? 00:40 Yeah you should get in touch 00:40 <@carlarc> wait, does vlad warp downstairs 00:41 Arguably if nearly everything in slicehack is really good and would be incorporated into regular splice, there's no need to encourage more fragmentation 00:42 heck, there's some stuff here I want 00:42 Like what? 00:42 Yeah, this is really good. 00:42 not sure but I want some of it 00:43 Didn’t add corresponding monster tiles 0/10 00:44 Hey AntiGulp if you merge slice I want to know how many merge conflicts it generates 00:44 Just curious 00:44 They fixed the “silver iron hook” bug that someone reported to me a week ago. In september. 00:45 <{Demo}1> jesus 00:45 <{Demo}1> someone make contact 00:45 well to be fair I fixed that too :P 00:45 <{Demo}1> figure out who this entity is and why they are doing what 00:45 <{Demo}1> get them on hdf 00:45 we need to talk to them 00:45 antigulp there's an email address given in the commits 00:46 or just leave a gh issue 00:46 and uh wait, the version is exactly the same as xnethack. 0.4.1 00:46 <@carlarc> does razing a door cause noise 00:46 Yeah, I would be very down with simply merging this and splice. There’s a lot there to unpack, but most of it is really good, and also well-documented. 00:47 :D 00:47 well you might disagree on for instance, "make mind flayers scary again" which takes your mind flayer amnesia removal and puts it back in 00:47 <@carlarc> it does not. 00:47 Yeah that’s why I said “most” 00:47 I’m on the “screw amnesia” trian 00:48 train 00:48 they implemented hacksplosion, oh my god 00:48 hacksplosion? 00:48 are mind flayers not scary enough without amnesia? 00:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:62491 00:48 <@carlarc> wow, that was pathetic 00:48 What is hacksplosion? 00:48 i think they're pretty scary either way what with the eating your brain and killing you thing 00:48 PavelB: https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2270 00:48 <@carlarc> i just zapped all his consorts with wands until they died, they didn't even wake up 00:49 [hyperbole] 00:49 amnesia isn't even scary, just annoying 00:49 Also some of the features they added are things that were in my design documents. Which are in a local file that I have never shared. I can’t overstate how surreal this is for me. 00:49 So what did slicehack actually do? 00:49 isha: I felt that the brain drain was scary enough, and I was trying to make amnesia a forgotten relic of the past. 00:50 PavelB: Tons of bug fixes, a lot of minor features that fit really well with Splice’s general theme. 00:50 (why have I never heard "brain drain" in reference to mind flayers before) 00:50 <{Demo}1> this is so weird 00:50 i meant in the context of hacksplosion 00:50 YANI: Hallucination message "Oh no! The brain drain!" that replaces "Your brain is eaten!" 00:50 "brain drain" lol 00:50 lol 00:51 hey AntiGulp now we're going to find that this guy already implemented that YAFM. Cue twilight zone music. 00:51 Instead of dying of brainlessness you should die of brain drain 00:52 <{Demo}1> this guy is actually nuts 00:52 <{Demo}1> the shit he's adding is dope 00:52 No kidding 00:53 I dug up the original bug they fixed. This was all the way back in July: https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/issues/28 00:55 AntiGulp: So, working theory is that when you're asleep, you open your computer and start coding cool new splicehack features, saving them in a hidden partition of your drive and posting them to github. Then you have no memory of this when you wake up. 00:55 I remember back when I said I was weirdly similar to Amy. Then this happens 00:55 <{Demo}1> no, this code is very different than antigulp's 00:55 <{Demo}1> and very very very different than amy's 00:55 Yeah, it’s low key much better 00:58 okay so I'm going to steal basically all the YAFM additions 00:58 who is this person? 00:58 K2: Message from AntiGulp at 2019-01-25 00:34 EST: The splice master branch has (in addition to some bugfixes) a tileset file. 00:59 i've spent last 15 min reading over their commits 00:59 https://github.com/msearle5/slicehack/commit/474b29f07c7af287c797874a69cd7a2c68b611bb 00:59 This is comedy gold 00:59 <{Demo}1> can we get an investigation? 00:59 AntiGulp kudos to you 00:59 AntiGulp: should go in quest.txt though 00:59 and use the com_pager system 00:59 variant based off of your variant heh 01:00 aosdict, you could borrow that artifact announcment it's neat 01:01 well maybe not the hallu ones 01:01 those are the best ones 01:02 All right, I need to go to bed, but I’m staying up so that I can message Msearle. 01:02 <{Demo}1> the halu ones are great 01:02 K2: did you see my very simple three step instructions for building your own tileset 01:02 yeah 01:05 there are some nice qol features here too 01:06 oh man ef113f0 is reaching into the ideas kicking around my brain and turning it into code... from last september... 01:08 Yeah the ctrl+k to see generation chances is an absolute godsend. 01:08 zombie apocalypse patch 01:08 didn't see that one, I started at the beginning and started working forward 01:08 kinda sorta what i pulled from grunthack but with a twist and implemented more betterly 01:09 ok going to bed now, but will be back with my gauntlets of stealing! 01:09 They have an entirely separate branch which is a ZAPM style variant as well. It’s crazy. 01:09 Night! 01:09 You know it's good when the commit it titles Explodier explosions 01:09 gnite AntiGulp 01:09 so splicehack and xnethack work when i wake up 01:10 nice 01:10 gnite all 01:10 Nite! 01:22 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 01:23 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 02:22 <@carlarc> wow i love that artifact announcement 02:22 <@carlarc> it's great 02:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:02 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 03:03 So... I found a grey stone. I was a good player, and kicked it. Load stone. I walked away. 03:03 Some exploring later, I hit i and it's in my inventory. 03:03 I mean, I'm sure I just did something stupid and hit , 03:03 but… 03:47 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 03:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:52 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 03:52 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 03:59 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 04:07 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 04:17 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:30 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:07 Auto-pick up is right next to # 05:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:35 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:22 and that is why you don't add * to your pickup_types! 06:29 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:70391 06:56 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:58 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 07:30 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:46 using symfony in the backend, there is a lot of bundling 07:46 bundle.. bundle? 08:22 come on Lady, I've already got vorpy 08:22 I don't need a *worse* sword 08:22 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 08:29 hah stennowork 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12493 08:45 K2: so is xnethack updated or not 08:45 did you see an annoucement? 08:45 :P 08:45 did not, but you made a comment about it working when you wake up 08:46 no... splicehack and xnethack work 08:46 he sleep-IRCing 08:46 as in work on 08:46 getting things settled here at work then i'll start in on both 08:48 being at work, working on nethack 08:48 don't judge me, it's compiling 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had battle-axe named Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:13236 08:50 doing splicehack first, that's quick/easy 08:56 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 08:56 ^ tileset will be enabled later today 08:56 ok xnh time 08:57 !who 08:57 K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] Karnac [nh362] AlbertB [nh362] oh6 [nh343] | [hdf-eu] jt [nh362] hilliance [nh362] Raisse [nh362] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] attie [nh362] 08:58 oo with tileset 09:02 how do you play with tileset? 09:02 via hterm 09:02 if online and if the variant supports it 09:03 -!- Kaiser7 has joined #hardfought 09:03 I didn't know splicehack maintained tiles support. Interesting. 09:04 splicehack is 3.6.2 and as such has native vt_tiledata support 09:04 !seen antigulp 09:04 jonadab: its very recent 09:05 jonadab: antigulp has been consistent with adding new tiles whenever new stuff is added 09:05 K2: thx 09:06 farfar, https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/ais0tu/playing_nethack_362hdf_using_tiles_online/ 09:09 Unix xNetHack Version 0.4.1-0 Beta - last build Fri Jan 25 09:00:26 2019. 09:09 (eb6011d63cbb0c8b86130d272a5d32e03fae7ee3,branch:master) 09:10 stennowork: nice thx :) 09:10 ^^ aosdict 09:10 hdf-us right now, working on other 2 09:10 awesome thanks 09:10 I was thinking about undefining BETA but ultimately didn't go for it 09:11 so do we have xnethack tiles now? 09:11 yes 09:11 right now just on hdf-us 09:11 nice nice 09:11 gj aosdict 09:11 but i'll have it and splicehack tiles on all three here soon 09:11 the savebreak was just in artilist so it didn't affect tiles 09:12 old ones should still work 09:12 YANI: tiles for artifacts (though I'm not volunteering to write the code for that...) 09:13 -!- Kaiser7 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:18 argh, in soko too, no bones 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 376 points, T:899, killed by a gray ooze 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlbertB (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1340 points, T:7242, killed by a rothe 09:25 !tell AntiGulp msearle apparently indents exclusively with tabs :/ 09:25 I'm on it, aosdict. 09:29 a programmer after my own heart 09:30 yeah well, if you add code to an existing project, you should ditch whatever your personal convention is in favor of that project's 09:30 because to do otherwise results in MIXED TABS AND SPACES 09:30 * aosdict shudders 09:33 mixed tabs and space is perfectly fine, if you use tabs for indentation and spaces for alignement :-p 09:34 it gets a problem with python where indentation actually has semantic meaning 09:34 if I wear a helm of opposite alignment, do I start right-justifying all my code? 09:35 no, you switch to use space if you used tabs and vice versa 09:35 xNetHack updated (all servers) 09:35 ^ version 0.4.1 09:35 :O 09:35 :D 09:35 thanks K2! 09:36 welcome ;) 09:36 i only have my code with text-align:justify; 09:36 now to update beholder so it sees 0.4.1 09:36 then we move on to tilesets for it and splice 09:36 stennowork: that's the neutral setting 09:36 ikr 09:39 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 09:39 -!- livingstone.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ Slash'EM updated, now includes statuscolors and MSGTYPE options (same as 3.4.3) 09:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 09:39 !ping 09:39 K2: Pong! 09:39 !whereis k2 09:39 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [xnh]: (Arc Hum Mal Law) T:2 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 09:39 !whereis k2 09:39 K2: k2 is not playing. 09:39 \o/ 09:39 !who 09:39 aosdict: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] Karnac [nh362] Bartlem [nh362] oh6 [nh343] | [hdf-eu] hilliance [nh362] jt [nh362] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] attie [nh362] 09:40 also don't joke about that. there are languages from the past like COBOL coming from the punched card era which have special columns and therefore a somewhat 2D layout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL#Code_format 09:40 ... I was not wild keen when Python reinvented this. Python fans say you'll get used to it but, spoiler alert, I didn't. 09:42 oh, also, msearle has no concern for maximum line lengths :\ 09:47 jonadab: there's at least one EPI implemented in slicehack 09:48 if you have any of a wide range of status afflictions or if a potion is cursed, you can randomly drop and break it when you try to quaff it 09:48 !lastgame galadriel 09:48 attie: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/galadriel/nh361/dumplog/1542726250.nh361.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/g/galadriel/nh361/dumplog/1548292266.nh361.txt 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1346 09:50 xNetHack tilesets enabled all servers now 09:50 thanks for killing that olog-hai before dying, galadriel! 09:59 and didn't even use up the throne, excellent 09:59 now I just gotta not die myself 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:25948 10:03 SpliceHack tilesets enabled all servers now 10:06 hah got all that done by 10am 10:06 * K2 flexes 10:07 * bhaak looks what time it is 10:07 it's almost beer time! 10:08 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 10:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:08 it's already beer time here 10:08 where beer time is defined as 'kein bier vor vier' 10:09 <{Demo}1> what time is beer time? 10:09 <{Demo}1> 5? 10:09 No beer for four? 10:09 4PM 10:09 it's all times 10:09 "no beer before 4PM" 10:09 I have a small portable yardarm which can be arranged such that the sun is always over it. :-) 10:10 <{Demo}1> 4 is a bit early for beer time 10:10 stennowork: I infer most of Germany is not entirely like Leipzig during the WGT where absinthe cocktails are a normal breakfast item 10:10 that's a correct assessment 10:11 stennowork: exactly 10:11 actually _real_ absinthe is illegal here 10:11 {Demo}1: not in Germany and not on Friday 10:11 <{Demo}1> on a Friday, 5 is the acceptable hr for beer time 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:978 10:28 stennowork: AFAIK Germany is now just like the rest of the EU - there's a 10mg/kg limit on thujone but it's actually not very clear that thujone had significant hallucinatory effects anyway 10:29 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:29 oh yeah seems liek it 10:33 <{Demo}1> what the fuck are these viking drinks? 10:34 This is a Bohemian poet drink 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2462 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3071 10:46 a few years ago (10-ish years ago?) i would travel to czech republic a lot because my father was living there 10:46 more like 8-ish years ago 10:46 and there i could buy the 'real' absinthe with tons of thujon in it 10:47 and 80% alc 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh343] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:14346 11:17 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:21 r a rodent (tame woodchuck called Fuggup) 11:21 i smell a polytrap 11:24 oracle level? 11:26 no, a couple of levels lower 11:37 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 11:39 -!- pellsson has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5409 11:49 aosdict: there's a fascinating collection of indentation styles in Perl core modules. Larry Wall's personal style used to be 4 spaces, then tab, then tab+4 spaces, then 2 tabs, etc. 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 17112 points, T:6260, killed by an energy vortex 12:00 whereas nethack source code sometimes goes with 'no identation at all' 12:00 anyway 12:00 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:8917 12:17 phew 12:24 <@carlarc> dnethack is weird 12:24 <@carlarc> dwarvish helms have lanterns that run out, but you can't charge or refill them with oil 12:24 <@carlarc> but maid monsters can 12:24 [hdf-us] [un] jailbird (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 42406 points, T:14695, killed by an owlbear 12:31 what's a good way to test an amulet to see if it's reflection? zap a ray wand at myself? Or should I do striking? 12:32 striking isnt reflected 12:32 so use something weak like magic missile 12:32 or use a wand of death if you're feeling frisky ;) 12:33 hmmm... "The missiles bounce!" but it didn't say they bounced off the amulet. 12:33 might be magicbane? 12:33 yeah 12:33 lose the MR 12:33 ya, "Idiot! You've shot yourself!" 12:33 not reflection! 12:33 \o/ 12:33 thanks! 12:34 :P 12:34 black dragon disintegrated my cloak of MR :( There's a gray dragon nearby but the black dragon is up in my grill. 12:34 <@carlarc> bait it into melee? 12:35 that's my plan. In Ludios they tend to hang around the moat, though. 12:35 maybe a ring of agravate monster would attrack it? 12:39 welp, now I'm a dude. 12:39 what's the drawback to putting on an amulet of change? 12:39 <@carlarc> uhh 12:39 <@carlarc> succubi will try to steal your adornment rings 12:39 they can have 'em 12:40 <@carlarc> and foocubi that were generated before changing gender will now cajole you 12:40 <@carlarc> also you can't create cockatrice eggs now 12:41 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Mon Asg Mal Neu), 155320 points, T:19119, killed by a monster (Detective Kaptain) 13:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:03 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 13:07 3.6.0 build system question: Is there a way I'm supposed to be running make depend? I've just been manually running it in src but that requires me to re-run it whenever I regenerate the makefile 13:13 <@carlarc> why is this maid wielding a unihorn over a katana 13:13 <@carlarc> bleh 13:13 <@carlarc> dnethack does good things for pets but not enough 13:13 Gaelan: I've never needed to explicitly run "make depend". Why do you need to? 13:14 If I don't, I get make[1]: *** No rule to make target `json_io.o', needed by `Sysunix'. Stop. 13:14 <@carlarc> "You throw the ring of conflict at Persephone." "Persephone mends the broken lock. Persephone drops the ring of conflict." 13:14 is json_io.c in the src folder? 13:14 <@carlarc> and then i read it and the game crashes 13:14 <@carlarc> hmm 13:14 no, win/json 13:15 (same structure as the other window ports) 13:15 so you put the json_io.o rule in Makefile.src? 13:16 Yes 13:16 Well, no rule. But it's in WINJSONOBJ 13:16 well there's your problem 13:17 you need to make a json_io.o rule for that specific .o file 13:17 just like there's a rule for e.g. wintty.o 13:17 (also do this for any other c files you added) 13:17 Yes, but that's under a comment that says # DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE OR CHANGE ANYTHING BEYOND IT (and is automatically generated by make depend) 13:19 I imagine when the author of the curses windowport added that, they needed to change stuff beyond it 13:19 since that's where the curses .o files rules live 13:19 No, make depend automatically generates all of those lines 13:19 not in makefile.src 13:19 If I run make depend, they're added to src/Makefile 13:20 I guess I just copypaste it back into Makefile.src? 13:21 I mean, if you're editing src/Makefile, don't do that because it won't work. Makefile.src is the intended thing that gets copied into src/Makefile 13:23 I know that, but make depend automatically makes exactly the edits I need, but does it to src/Makefile. I guess I just need to run the script and manually copy back 13:40