00:04 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 00:04 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 00:05 ___|\____\o/____ 00:07 <@Tone> Did one of the 362 commits a few weeks ago affect how monsters spawn awake vs asleep in special rooms? 00:15 lol bouquet 00:19 @tone yes, a nhmall commit 00:20 <@Tone> aosdict: Do you remember what that did exactly? Did it just prevent the cases where monsters were awake sometimes? 00:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:34 I think so 00:40 <@carlarc> what the heck 00:40 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/537506994303533056/unknown.png 00:41 <@carlarc> why am i hearing this out of nowhere in dlvl 6 00:41 <{Demo}1> a garo died 00:41 <@carlarc> what's a garo 00:41 <{Demo}1> weird brown dot thing 00:42 <{Demo}1> they explode, I think they are from like legend of zelda maybe? not sure 00:42 <@carlarc> oh i see 00:44 <{Demo}1> hmm maybe I'll remove them from ndnh cause they are kind of slex-like 00:44 I cut my nethack teeth on tiles so I'm kidding. 01:14 !who 01:14 Gaelan: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] Grouchy [nh362] jailbird [un] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 01:15 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 01:18 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4849 points, T:5651, killed by a Woodland-elf 01:27 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 03:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 272 points, T:2332, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse 03:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:48 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 60580 points, T:9794, poisoned by a spore cloud 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:57180 04:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Geryon, on T:57191 04:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:59129 04:59 -!- farfar_ is now known as farfar 05:05 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided class R, on T:59829 05:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:13 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 05:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:19 well, if you would vote on it, I would be surprised if there were more than 2 votes on not requiring C99 05:22 although I'd rather have proper header separation than C99. everything is dumped into hack.h 05:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 06:04 messages? 06:04 Nice :) 06:08 Messages can be nice. 06:11 Tangles: I have a message for you, it reads: "bundlebundlebundle" ♥ 06:12 Awwwwww Thanks Amy :) 06:13 heh, I have to thank you for the help in hunting down bugs! 06:13 without you I'd probably not have been able to track the cause of some of them 06:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:62891 06:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:62894 06:16 All good... This is just a flying visit - I've been offline because of hardware issues. Should be fixed in the next day or two. 06:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Primer81 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4920 points, T:6775, quit 06:26 Tangles, we have 3.6.2 tiles on hterm now 06:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:63474 06:27 Tangles, which technically means we can also have them for xnethack and splicehack now 06:27 stennowork: oh that's exciting! 06:28 yeah pretty cool, that should be a first 06:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:63171 06:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:63172 07:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:10 Tangles... I have a message for you too 07:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:11 'heartsheartshugsfleecybundlefleecy!!!1!!elevensies!!' 07:11 [hdf-us] [4k] rog (zor) (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 12120 points, T:3178, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:63548 07:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law), 2696404 points, T:63572, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/Wolfechu/nh361/dumplog/1546508223.nh361.txt 07:16 grats 07:16 thanks 07:17 wooo congrats Wolfechu 07:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:47 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:02 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 08:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 08:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:04 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 3530 points, T:4246, inhumed by a hill orc called Ugorai of Ulaiz 08:06 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 08:20 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:24 so when do we get xnethack/splicehack tiles? 08:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:33 heh 08:33 stenno is like 'HURRY UP' 08:33 i just want to see that it works too 08:33 but no reason why it shouldn't 08:34 exactly 08:34 aosdict has already done some preliminary work on it for xnh 08:34 how much, dunno 08:35 actually I have done nothing since talking about it yesterday 08:35 but the bar will be a lot lower than if I had been running splicehack and not making any tiles for new things 08:36 * K2 promotes stennowork to 'project manager overlord' and hands him a whip 08:36 I think I have to copy the scroll tile, make a slightly different ring tile, and draw up a grass tile. 08:36 woop 08:36 DO EET aosdict 08:36 * stennowork cracks whip 08:36 how can that work for splicehack? it has added new objects, aren't the numbers off in that case? 08:36 lol 08:37 bhaak, it would work in general, we just need a tileset 08:37 bhaak: is there a tileset for unnethack? 08:37 K2: yes 08:37 oooh where 08:37 whenever i think of whips i have to think of smithers with his licorice whip 08:37 the repo? 08:37 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5teVixi8XLU 08:38 stennowork: still wrapping up changes for 0.5.0 08:38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QLzthSkfM 08:38 like, actual gameplay changes 08:38 priorities please :( 08:39 also I didn't want to do the 0.5.0 announcement on the same day as K2's webtiles announcemenet 08:39 bhaak: hey, if I want to post to rgrn, do I just email rec.games.roguelike.nethack@googlegroups.com or something? 08:40 do you have a google account? 08:40 somehow the webtiles hype was not as hype as expected :D 08:40 if so - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.games.roguelike.nethack 08:40 and you can start posting automagically 08:41 stennowork: build it and they will come 08:41 i mean it's not really new, the only new thing is that its also working with 3.6.1 now 08:41 K2: for example in the repo itself but there's a list in https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Tileset 08:41 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 774 points, T:2333, eliminated by a packrat 08:42 ah 08:42 thanks bhaak 08:42 aosdict: no. a Usenet posting looks mostly like an e-mail but it works with a completely different protocol. 08:43 bhaak: from all the different tilesets listed there, which do you like best for unnethack? 08:43 should i do a little writeup on how this all works 08:45 maybe not 08:46 K2: I'm the wrong person to ask, I hardly ever use tilesets :) I like those that are less playful, more abstract, that's why I based the default unnethack tileset on the Abigaba tileset. and although it is abstract, I find the geoduck tileset aesthetically lacking. 08:47 duly noted 08:47 i am going to use the one in your repo 08:48 this one is one of the more interesting ones: https://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/nethack/nhsshot/?dump=0&tileset=thmodern 08:48 ooh 08:48 K2: take unchozo32b.png the other one is IIRC still out of date 08:48 k 08:49 K2: ok yeah I have the aosdict@gmail account 08:56 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Dro Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:2711 08:56 aosdict nice 08:57 bhaak: unnethack tileset live on hdf-us 08:57 woot 08:57 have to go to a meeting in 3 min blah 08:57 will do eu and au after 08:57 and it does work? :) 08:57 oh and still the old square font heh 08:58 bhaak yeah 08:58 aw cute 08:58 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 147 points, T:989, dispatched by a small mimic 08:59 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Dro Fem Neu), 6416 points, T:2923, killed by a gas cloud 09:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 154 points, T:1098, murdered by a gecko 09:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1607 points, T:1854, killed by a dog 09:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:51 alrighty 09:51 unnethack tiles support all 3 servers 09:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:59 * jonadab idly wonders what it would take to get hterm webtiles working with NH4. 09:59 Architectural changes to libuncursed, probably. 10:00 <@luxidream> Tangles 10:11 hmm, no, I think libuncursed is already to late 10:11 libuncursed doesn't get glyph information, does it? it only gets color pair, character and position for the map? 10:14 Well, libuncursed draws tiles, when running in an SDL window. 10:14 At least, that is my understanding. 10:15 hmm, that clashes with my understanding that libuncursed is ncurses compatible :-) 10:15 as a ncurses drop-in, this shouldn't be able to work. someone is wrong 10:15 It's not *fully* ncurses compatible. It was designed to be easily swapped out for ncurses as NitroHack became NH4. 10:16 But I don't know the details. 10:16 The UI code is some of the code I've looked at least, in NH4. 10:17 There's probably only one person who does know these details, actually. 10:21 libuncursed.c is trying to be mostly ncurses compatible. but the plugins draw the characters/tiles. but the code itself doesn't know (at least most of the times, maybe there are exceptions) what backend is used. 10:22 somewhere the glyph information must be passed along, but I haven't found it yet 10:33 i feel like buying something today 10:33 today is 'buy something expensive-ish' day 10:34 hmm, seems the main libuncursed code calls the plugins with draw_tile_at and the plugins just draw it but the tty plugin reaches back into libuncursed with functions like uncursed_rhook_utf8_at, uncursed_hook_color_at to know what characters to draw. 10:34 i thought window manager things would be easier in nh4-like because of nitrohack 10:35 er 10:35 windowport* 10:35 somewhat. you only have to implement the graphics backend, not the whole UI 10:36 right 10:36 if you want another UI, that's probably harder than in vanilla. 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1151 points, T:2948, killed by a bolt of fire 10:42 <{Demo}1> stenno: buy a really cool rainhat 10:43 like johnny depp in fear and loathing? 10:43 https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/digital/video/hero/Movies/MiscCategory7/B000ID1J0E_FearAndLoathingLasVegas_UXNB1._RI_SX940_.jpg 10:43 <{Demo}1> that's just a dumb bucket hat, not a cool rain hat 10:44 http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/products/ar4-2_grande.jpg?v=1471025957 ? 10:44 <{Demo}1> hmm maybe an umbrella hat would make for a cool rain hat 10:45 ah yes that would be cool 10:45 it would surely give me the respect of my coworkers 10:45 edgelord https://www.airsoftworld.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/r/brolly-head2.jpg 10:46 <{Demo}1> get an ultra wide one 10:46 <{Demo}1> so you can keep other people dry too 10:47 found it https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/2552241619/TB2h5Ctb5C9MuFjSZFoXXbUzFXa_!!2552241619.jpg 10:48 oh this is the perfect one https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51DVq4pC0nL._SY355_.jpg 10:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 23199 points, T:5256, killed by a winter wolf cub 10:50 ^ wouldn't have happened with an umbrella hat 10:52 <{Demo}1> hmm might add umbrella hats to ndnh and they protect from water blast monster attack and acid rain monster spell and tourists start with one 10:53 sounds good 10:53 and rust traps! 10:56 <{Demo}1> maybe shopkeepers will occasionally comment on it and make fun of u 11:04 {Demo}1: add the umbrellarinas from Pokemon Emerald :D 11:07 {Demo}1, so it would have a sucker penalty like t-shirts ? 11:07 <{Demo}1> the kids hiding under the sand umbrellas? 11:07 <{Demo}1> no, worse, you just get bullied for it 11:07 <{Demo}1> shopkeepers occasionally comment, MS_CUSS has dedicated messages for it 11:08 {Demo}1: nah, actual women who have parasols 11:09 <{Demo}1> oh the beauties or whatever they are? 11:10 https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hoenn_Route_113#Pok.C3.A9mon_Emerald Madeline ♥♥♥ 11:13 <{Demo}1> yeah those aren't umbrella hats, sorry 11:27 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:36 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 5734 points, T:2288, killed by a dagger 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering an orc-captain corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:5853 11:45 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 11:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:47 <@luxidream> !ping 11:47 @luxidream: Pong! 11:47 <@luxidream> . . . 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 9050 points, T:6237, killed by a lynx 11:48 <@luxidream> @mtf 11:48 hello @luxidream 11:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:00 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:00 this online shop has all articles sold out 12:00 unfortunate 12:04 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 12:10 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 13:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:06 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 244 points, T:746, killed by a newt 13:08 [hdf-us] [un] jailbird (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 36310 points, T:13407, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 13:19 <@carlarc> why has no variant fixed the bug that makes smart monsters pick up 300 useless armor and weapon things off the ground 13:19 I thought only trolls did that. 13:19 it gives monsters busy work 13:19 otherwise they get bored 13:20 patches welcome 13:20 is that really a bug though 13:21 if the monster picks up armor and doesn't wear it, why should it have picked it up? 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 126 points, T:430, killed by boiling potions 13:23 it's shiny? 13:24 would you generalize that as 'monsters should not pick up anything they wont actually use'? 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 695 points, T:1446, killed by a dart 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 43 points, T:130, killed by a water demon 13:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:112 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 289 points, T:683, killed by a water demon 13:44 dear devs: please do not eliminate the monster floor cleaning service. thank you and have a great day! 13:45 hothraxxa: what if I keep it in the game but bill you 200 zorkmids per hundred turns of service 13:45 sure. zorkmids are easy to come by 13:45 lying on the floor everywhere 13:46 not if paxed has anything to say about it 13:49 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 13:57 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:13224 14:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:12 K2: _intelligent_ monsters 14:12 heh 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3474 points, T:3076, killed by a wolf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:15 * aosdict starts playing splicehack again and immediately needs to open the code to source dive 14:21 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:22 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 14:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 14:22 <@mtf> !ping 14:22 @mtf: Pong! 14:22 <@mtf> oh there he is 😃 14:22 <@mtf> hi beholder 14:23 eventually luxidream is going to !ping when beholder is down on this end and conclude that the bridge is down 14:25 YANI: Increase the price of a magic whistle; blocking price id for them is pointless anyway. 14:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:29 YANI: Another sort of magic whistle that summons a temporary ally, who disappears after a while. 14:30 This type would probably have to be charged. 14:32 * aosdict finds a +5 light armor lying around in splicehack 14:32 !lotg aosdict 14:32 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, aosdict! 14:37 I just entered a new level, fought and killed a packrat, and got "You kill the packrat! Pierre eats a kitten corpse." 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:2303 14:37 this could be bones but I doubt it 14:38 !tell AntiGulp YANI: packrats always generate carrying some random item (not when revived or stone-to-fleshed though) 14:38 I'm on it, aosdict. 14:38 oh it is bones 14:38 more noah bones 14:39 <@carlarc> i think i have a 3x bones in the first or second mines level 14:40 <@carlarc> i might have cleared it though 14:40 has antigulp been told about infernals leaving corpses in bones? 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2342 points, T:2460, killed by a soldier ant 14:56 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 72 points, T:298, killed by a sewer rat 15:01 <@luxidream> teleport them 15:01 FIQ: Message from @carlarc at 2019-01-22 20:35 EST: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280051925154660363/537445161056075821/unknown.png 15:01 you just mentioned teleportation not working on astral :P 15:01 <@luxidream> I was explaining what purple rain was 15:01 <@carlarc> your astral is evil 15:01 <@carlarc> >:( 15:02 also 15:02 conflict makes a huge difference 15:02 <@luxidream> better than spork lmao 15:05 @luxidream ah 15:05 @carlarc you didn't use conflict 15:05 that made the biggest difference I think 15:06 <@carlarc> probably 15:06 <@carlarc> can riders push enemies out of the way in fiq 15:07 no 15:07 I am going to add it at some point I think 15:07 but I haven't yet 15:07 <@carlarc> nooo 15:07 <@carlarc> what does spork do to astral though 15:07 anyone remember what splicehack masks do? 15:07 are they like majora's mash? 15:07 mask 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3770 15:08 <@carlarc> "Can be worn on the face like a blindfold. When worn, you transform permanently into the type of creature the mask is of. Any time the mask is taken off degrades its BCU status. Cursed masks will break and damage you when used. Due to their power, this can be a useful wish target." 15:08 <@carlarc> this reminds me that blindfolds should be able to be worn over lenses 15:08 <@luxidream> That’s dumb 15:08 ok so this wolf mask isn't all that great 15:09 <@luxidream> I can’t wear a blindfold over my glasses irl 15:09 <@carlarc> why not 15:09 hm 15:09 dnh masks are different 15:09 you would need to make a separate slot for it, and that's really not worth it 15:09 <@carlarc> the only problem would be that it makes your glasses slightly foggy 15:09 they force polyforms 15:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7991 15:09 which is useful as another defense against polytraps 15:10 <@carlarc> aos maybe you can throw it at an enemy to poly them into a weak wolf 15:10 <@carlarc> if they wear it 15:10 FIQ: I could see splice adding that for cursed masks maybe 15:10 but it is nice to have a polyself source that isn't tied to general poly magic 15:11 <@luxidream> splice boss idea: weak human who puts on a unique mask 15:11 that would just encourage blasting him with death rays before he gets the chance 15:11 <@carlarc> maybe the mask doesn't break 15:12 <@luxidream> Still more interesting than the failure eidolon 15:13 what is that, I forget 15:13 <@luxidream> A quantum mechanic in a no teleport zone 15:13 <@carlarc> amazing 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3985 15:15 any advice on where to go after minetown for splice dwa val? 15:15 can I tough out the deeper mines? 15:16 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16160 15:18 <@luxidream> yeah there aren’t any new threats yet except for dinosaurs 15:18 <@luxidream> beware of dinosaurs 15:20 <@luxidream> oh splice has genetic engineer now. Huh 15:20 <@luxidream> Guess I’m genociding Q even harder 15:20 <@carlarc> you genocide Q? 15:21 <@luxidream> In splice 15:21 <@carlarc> ah 15:21 yellow mold warrior? wat? 15:21 and it's wielding a weapon? 15:21 <@luxidream> That’s a thing yep 15:21 <@carlarc> oh there's some other new qs 15:21 <@luxidream> Not very strong 15:22 it's strong because of passive stun 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3473 15:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Tou Hum Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:16850 15:29 <@luxidream> aosdict: maybe you should just leave 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4120 15:30 <@luxidream> I was sitting here eating lunch watching you kite that mumak for a while :p\ 15:30 it was a valiant stalemate 15:30 <{Demo}1> meanmak 15:31 desert jinn generated with a silver sword 15:31 <@luxidream> hey look 15:31 I *still* don't know whether this cloak is reflection or MR 15:31 <@luxidream> an xnh floating eye 15:31 it's one of the two 15:31 <@luxidream> I mean 15:31 <@luxidream> whirling sphere 15:32 <{Demo}1> I wonder if some of my splice cheeses have been patched yet 15:32 * aosdict looks up whirling sphere 15:32 <@carlarc> can't you just zap a wand of magic missile at yourself and see if it gets reflected or not 15:33 yes I could if I had one 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:4381 15:34 <@luxidream> splice cheeses? like demogorgonzola? 15:35 <{Demo}1> like minor things to do for prestige in next jnh 15:35 lol demogorgonzola 15:35 we had pasta with gorgonzola sauce for dinner 15:36 I think that was demigorgonzola though, half mild and half sharp 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:9053 15:36 <@luxidream> I take no credit: https://alt.org/nethack/dudley/?816 15:36 * raisse cheers for watery tarts 15:37 so a legendary lichen is still totally nonthreatening right 15:37 <@luxidream> yeah the corpses still rot 15:38 <@luxidream> fix this antigulp reee 15:38 lichen corpses shouldn't! 15:38 [hdf-us] [spl] aosdict (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a skeleton, on T:4702 15:38 I already had a skeleton thanks very much 15:39 now you can be your skeleton's skeleton! 15:39 oh, pity skeletons don't have two weapon attacks, I could take advantage of that recent bug I found 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2334 points, T:5327, died of starvation, while helpless 15:39 <@carlarc> what is it 15:40 <@luxidream> I miss the 3.4.3 days when I got to attack four times as an elvenking while twoweaponing 15:40 if you're polyed into something with two weapon attacks, you hit with your offhand weapon without actually needing to wield it 15:40 <@luxidream> good days 15:40 this lets you twoweapon artifacts 15:40 <@carlarc> cool 15:40 fixed now in vanilla but not in splice 15:41 <@luxidream> doesn't splice pull all the 3.6.2 changes 15:41 yeah but antigulp's been MIA for a month and I only reported the bug a few days ago 15:42 also I feel like as a skeleton I shouldn't be *able* to eat and digest things 15:42 <@carlarc> are skeletons inediate 15:42 <@carlarc> if not, that's dumb and bad 15:42 <@luxidream> you can eat anything while polymorphed 15:42 <@luxidream> even as a lich 15:42 doesn't whatever you eat come out right away? 15:42 <@luxidream> or something that wouldn't eat normally 15:43 yes but do you need to? 15:43 <@luxidream> like air elementals can eat 15:43 <@luxidream> you don't have to. but you can 15:43 <@carlarc> that'd be funny if you ate stuff and it inmediately dropped to the ground 15:43 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 15:43 <@luxidream> makes you wonder how a dust vortex eats anything. at least skeletons can chew the food 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 235 points, T:866, killed by a newt 15:44 a bone mask of a drop bear 15:44 so, a skull 15:44 <@carlarc> it could be carved out of the bones of something else 15:44 <@carlarc> which would be kinda weird if you think about it 15:45 <@luxidream> ooo a substance warper 15:45 I'm glad all the G are peaceful 15:45 sounds dangerous 15:46 because splice has not fixed OOD problems 15:46 how about two substance warpers then 15:46 <@luxidream> I think they change object materials 15:46 <@luxidream> deepest one lmao 15:46 why is this random wall brown 15:46 <@carlarc> aosdict what about gnolls 15:47 <@carlarc> is it an open door maybe 15:48 !tell antigulp a random wall in the mimic of the mines is brown 15:48 Will do, aosdict! 15:48 <@luxidream> you should totally fight the substance warper 15:49 <@luxidream> there's got to be some kind of way to exploit that to get all mithril armor or something 15:50 <@carlarc> just whack it repeatedly with the armor until it turns into mithril 15:51 <@carlarc> hmm it doesn't show up in the spl monster list? 15:51 <@luxidream> https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/blob/ff97d8a6c9413d7b8c396fe16ec23b63b8c3630e/src/monst.c 15:51 <@luxidream> control+f substance warper 15:51 <@luxidream> fairly weak it seems 15:52 <@carlarc> wow it just turns your stuff directly into mitril 😛 15:52 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/537736273738334218/unknown.png 15:53 @carlarc that stands for material not mithril 15:53 <@carlarc> that's the joke 15:55 based on my reading of warp_material this might be possible to transform artifacts 15:56 !tell AntiGulp warp_material looks like it is capable of transforming artifacts and thus letting you get silver Excalibur and such. 15:56 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 15:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6933 16:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 16:06 <@carlarc> is hardfought acting up for anyone else 16:10 <@carlarc> "Engraving "The Yellow Sign" will cause bad things to happen to you and those around you." does this actually work? i can't seem to get it to do so 16:19 [hdf-us] [fh] Farol (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 6560 points, T:125, quit 16:23 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 16:28 [hdf-us] [dyn] Hraskulm (mysteradio) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:206, killed by a sewer rat 16:43 aosdict: did you change anything about pets picking up stuff in shops? 16:45 nm. dog finally picked up the bag. took forever 16:45 then the asshole immediately dropped it 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] toneLive (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14710 16:53 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 16:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 17:01 hothraxxa: nope 17:13 i know, it was just a long run of bad rng 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1276 points, T:2335, killed by a water moccasin 17:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 32 darts on an altar, on T:9648 17:15 <{Demo}1> a true athiest would have only dropped 31! 17:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:18 i was tired 17:24 hothraxxa: are you playing with new tiles? 17:25 also I feel like I should tell you that I've ended development for 0.4.0 with a savebreak. it will get updated later today 17:32 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 17:41 i am not playing with tiles 17:42 you waited for me to start a game before you did this didn't you 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] LittleBilly (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 43 points, T:140, killed by a water moccasin 17:47 aosdict how's the vanilla merge going? 17:53 aosdict: so my current wizard will lose his xnh game after the update? 17:53 <@carlarc> you gotta rush it now 17:54 bouquet: assuming K2 does the same thing as always, you will continue playing the version without the new commits 17:54 it's a deal! I'm deep into this one ready to ascend! Currently at turn 1311. 17:54 figures that the whole week goes by with barely anyone playing xnh and then the day I decide to push out a new version... 17:55 K2: merge is going awful 17:55 PatR did a recent commit that shoves in a bunch of silver-specific logic so I have to reconcile that with object materials 17:55 oh damn 17:57 in vanilla world, you can just make edge cases for silver directly since it's the only material that has effects. in xnh you can't 17:57 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:02 hahahah daaaaamn... so Hardfought has existed for 6667 days now (including today) 18:02 that means yesterday was day 6666 18:02 ultra mega number of the beast 18:02 \o/ 18:02 DIRGE 18:03 sorry... got carried away 18:03 uptown beast, higher house number. 18:03 <{Demo}1> \o/ 18:03 <@carlarc> must be why i lost both of my ascension-worthy characters that day 18:03 both? 18:04 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:04 <@carlarc> yeah, elven/vampire wizard in un, dwarven magic knight in fiq 18:04 magic knight? 18:04 <@carlarc> bluh 18:04 <@carlarc> normal knight 18:04 <{Demo}1> like magic johnson 18:04 <@carlarc> but with Magic 18:05 <@carlarc> do people actually play non-spellcaster knight or was the wiki lying to me once again 18:05 <@luxidream> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ac/MagicKnightRayearth.jpg/220px-MagicKnightRayearth.jpg 18:06 <@luxidream> also the wiki was lying 18:06 <@luxidream> most knights are melee 18:06 I didn't use magic missile until the endgame 18:07 <@luxidream> Oh I actually have this manga 18:07 still don't get why the devteam thought knights should be the ones to get the uberpowerful double spell damage effect 18:07 <@luxidream> A relic of a family member’s collection 18:08 knights are better than you and they know it 18:08 <@luxidream> I can get on a horse without dying 18:08 i can ride my bike with no handlebars 18:08 <@luxidream> me 1, knight 0 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3019 18:09 no one got the Flowbots reference? 18:10 man 18:11 <@carlarc> the hecks that 18:11 <@carlarc> also wizard with merlin mirror would be insane 18:11 hmmm. i was playing unnethack, and bouquet was playing unnethack. now i'm playing xnethack, and bouquet is playing xnethack. very suspicious 18:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLUX0y4EptA 18:12 ^ flowbots 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] LittleBilly (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 420 points, T:1938, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:12 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 18:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 11680 points, T:8563, killed by a troll 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 12 daggers on an altar, on T:4236 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] LittleBilly (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 353 points, T:780, killed by a dwarf 18:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a sasquatch, on T:11906 18:31 bleh 18:31 there went my robe 18:32 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:42 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 55782 points, T:12077, choked on a tin of spinach 18:47 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 18:52 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1320 points, T:1828, killed by a giant mimic 19:02 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 19:09 [hdf-us] [4k] Smooph (Ssach) (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 3909 points, T:1422, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted bugbear 19:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12958 19:27 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:31 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 19:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 8888 points, T:4589, killed by something while blind 20:05 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane7 (catthedd) (Val Hum Fem Neu) received Ogresmasher from Odin, on T:17553 20:06 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 20:07 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Mon Asg Mal Neu) killed Emperor Sankis, on T:13109 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1050 points, T:1928, quit 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1423 points, T:1533, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hill orc 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2319 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5480 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6186 20:40 "You feel tough! Your movements are now unencumbered. You must have been leading a healthy life-style." 20:40 That's weird, you'd expect the first and last messages to always be right together 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7522 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:8558 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:5 20:46 Hmm. Yeah, adjattrib() displays both the "You feel %s" and the encumbrance change, the exercise message is queued up back in the calling function 20:48 (Nethack has some 10/10 function names. Was it conventional back in the day to keep names at 8 characters like DOS filenames?) 20:49 I believe it was. 20:50 It might have even been required by some old compilers, and as we all know, gotta keep those old compilers happy... 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed charging", on T:10614 20:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane7 (catthedd) (Val Hum Fem Neu) defeated Lord Surtur, on T:19906 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:10615 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:10973 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:10973 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] scheijan (Sam Hum Mal Law), 9931 points, T:6295, killed by an invisible xorn 20:59 I wonder if you could have sensible function names and #define them down to 8 chars when on an old compiler 20:59 (Assuming, of course, that the compiler doesn't also limit #define length…) 21:00 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 357 points, T:976, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 22594 points, T:15190, killed by a death ray 21:12 that was amelie bones 21:12 went downstairs, heard a nearby zap, yadda yadda 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:12391 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:12393 21:13 hey at least I don't have fiqhack player monster bones yet 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 380 points, T:1101, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:13 i was on dlvl 11 21:14 yup, same death ray got her 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased magic marker", on T:12783 21:15 the curse of bagoban 21:17 shit if i'd checked the dumplog i'd still be playing 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed greased scroll of genocide", on T:13384 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:13385 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:13670 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:13882 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:14571 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:14845 21:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] hempe (Nec Vam Mal Cha), 1861 points, T:2782, killed by a dwarf 21:26 !whereis Luxidream 21:26 PavelB: [hdf-us] Luxidream [nh362]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:14859 Vlad's Tower level: 36 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:14995 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:14997 21:27 Interesting touch with Vlad being "destroyed" and not "killed" 21:28 well, he is undead. 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 698 points, T:1459, killed by a giant bat 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:15307 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 291269 points, T:15418, killed by a minotaur 21:30 <@luxidream> no I didn't react in time 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 10 points, T:12, killed by a jackal, while sleeping 21:35 -!- ynoom is now known as moony 21:38 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Mon Asg Mal Neu) killed Aram, on T:17179 21:46 My poor cat 21:46 it's not dead 21:46 I just have no idea where it is 21:51 Gaelan: [backscroll] Based on some of the old surviving defines, I would guess that no compiler for nethack ever limited define length (to an unreasonable amount). 22:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2032 points, T:4067, killed by a little dog, while fainted from lack of food 22:09 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Cav Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:73732 22:16 Good news, found my cat. Bad news, accidentally cannibalismed. 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 506 points, T:833, killed by a gnome lord 22:18 <@carlarc> does dnethack remove polypiling 22:18 <@carlarc> entirely 22:18 !who 22:18 PavelB: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] carlarc [dnh] Gaelan [nh362] bouquet [un] jailbird [un] KaiHerd [nh343] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:18 ello 22:21 <@luxidream> you can't polypile blank scrolls in dnh 22:21 <@luxidream> @carlarc 22:22 <@luxidream> other than that it should be ok 22:25 <@carlarc> i was zapping a wand of polymorph directly at a line of stuff and it wasn't working 22:25 <@carlarc> no shuddering, no golems, no changes 22:26 <@carlarc> did it thrice 22:26 <@luxidream> what stuff 22:26 <@luxidream> maybe @riker or demo would know something 22:27 <{Demo}1> oi what 22:28 <{Demo}1> was it actually a wand of polymorph? 22:36 was it a wand of fools' polymorph? 22:36 was it a wand that gives you a wish if you zap it at yourself, polymorphs an engraving if engraved with, and does nothing when zapped in any other direction? 22:38 <@luxidream> wand of inconsistency: has a random, predetermined effect for each possible action you can take with it 22:42 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:44 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:46 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Bar Hum Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2406 22:55 <@carlarc> @Demo well i engraved with it and the engraving changed 22:56 <@carlarc> "the engraving now looks different" or whatever the poly wand's message is 22:56 <@luxidream> formal ID it? 22:56 <@carlarc> can't yet 22:57 <@carlarc> i should carry it on me in case i die though 22:57 <@luxidream> go to some shop and pay them 22:57 <{Demo}1> weird 22:57 <@luxidream> to do it 22:57 <@carlarc> minetown had no good shops 22:57 <@carlarc> ill roll my luck with the id 22:57 <@luxidream> no general store? rip 22:57 <@carlarc> if a id fails, will it always fail on that specific item 22:57 <@carlarc> ? 23:00 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane7 (catthedd) (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:22252 23:02 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane7 (catthedd) (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:22258 23:06 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane7 (catthedd) (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:22275 23:08 [hdf-us] [fh] Stane7 (catthedd) (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:22281 23:09 <@luxidream> oh no 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:8230 23:14 heyo 23:15 just blasted Rodney 9 times with a /oDeath and none hit. Is there something I'm missing? I usually one-shot him 23:16 Wand to-hit is independent of your stats, and he has good AC 23:17 <@carlarc> bad ingame luck maybe 23:17 <@luxidream> unlikely things happen in nethack.jpg 23:17 <@carlarc> and yeah nethack is nethack 23:17 <@carlarc> what does the potion of starlight do in dnethack? it doesnt show up in the wiki 23:18 <@carlarc> oh nvm 23:18 <@luxidream> starlight: Cures sickness and lycanthropy, as with holy water. Deals 3d20 silver damage to lycanthropes and silver-hating polymorph forms. Quaffing breaks Marionette's seal. (potion.c, 550) Also acts as a light source (2 tiles) 23:18 <@carlarc> i'm dumb 23:18 <@carlarc> i hate how you can't call IDed things 23:19 <@carlarc> also, apparently the wand of "polymorph" i found earlier was a wand of draining even tho it changed the message, so that's confusing 23:20 <{Demo}1> it didnt change it to a random message 23:20 <@luxidream> the wand of draining removes part of the message 23:20 <{Demo}1> it degraded the shit out of it 23:21 so you zapped draining at items? oof 23:21 <@carlarc> only polfodder 23:22 <@carlarc> yeah i guess i just didn't pay attention to the engrave id 23:22 <@carlarc> can enemies use wands of draining? 23:22 <{Demo}1> yes they can 23:22 <@carlarc> ugh 23:23 <@carlarc> that just makes level drain resistance "necessary" just like reflect and MR is, i hated slashem for that 23:23 <{Demo}1> and its annoying as shit when ur a lvl 30 binder and ur clearing out the city of dis and one of those legionnaires spawns with one and unbinds numina on you 23:23 <{Demo}1> nahhh 23:23 <@carlarc> it was annoying then and is going to be annoying now 23:23 <{Demo}1> its pretty rare 23:23 <{Demo}1> like wayyyyyy more rare than slashem 23:23 <@carlarc> it's still bad, even if it's only rare 23:23 <@carlarc> that's good 23:23 drain resistance would be less necessary because it won't enable an enemy to instakill you. 23:24 <{Demo}1> i dont usually roll drain res 23:24 if you don't have it. 23:24 <{Demo}1> and ive never had a real problem 23:24 <{Demo}1> its annoying for binders at most 23:24 MR is highly necessary because the game provides lots of stuff that instakills you if you don't have it. 23:24 <{Demo}1> dnh gives out some of thoses res like candy though 23:25 <{Demo}1> like, barb's quest artifact gives slotless reflection, mr and drain res 23:25 <@carlarc> hmm 23:25 <{Demo}1> (wiz cant steal ur quest arti in dnh) 23:25 <@carlarc> wizard stealing quest artis was always a dumb design chocie 23:26 <@carlarc> how do you get the essential resistances in dnethack? 23:26 <@luxidream> crown 23:26 <@carlarc> it times out there from corpses 23:26 <@carlarc> lame 23:26 <{Demo}1> depends, what role are you? 23:26 <@luxidream> tou 23:26 <{Demo}1> you can snag a few from chaos orbs 23:26 <@carlarc> tourist 23:26 <@carlarc> aren't those massively heavy 23:26 <{Demo}1> yeah crown, but crowning in dnh is changed 23:27 <{Demo}1> no 23:27 <{Demo}1> you must have completed your quest and talked to ur QL, and have 13 luck 23:27 <{Demo}1> as well as pious obviously to be crowned 23:27 <{Demo}1> you can offset their weight with like, the tie die shirt or something 23:28 <@carlarc> wow that shirt is really good 23:28 <@carlarc> how do you get it 23:28 <@luxidream> wish 23:28 <{Demo}1> you can get it from sac or wish 23:28 <{Demo}1> or it can randomly gen 23:29 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Cthulhu, on T:77157 23:29 <{Demo}1> hiking boots base item type in dnh give +100 carry cap 23:30 <{Demo}1> blessed scrolls of resistance give you all the resistances temporarily for quite a bit of time 23:31 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:77326 23:37 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77976 23:38 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 11072 points, T:6498, killed by an owlbear 23:45 well, cthulhu and rodney went down with 1 shot the next few encounters. What an awful streak of bad luck 23:45 I thought maybe it was a phase of the moon thing. 23:48 well, there was just a lunar eclipse... 23:50 <{Demo}1> mars is bright tonight 23:55 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 23:57 <@luxidream> The Karnak complex gives its name to the nearby, and partly surrounded, modern village of El-Karnak, 2.5 kilometres (1.6 miles) north of Luxor. 23:57 <@luxidream> 🤔 23:58 <@carlarc> YANI: normal marker, can appear early on and can be used for semipermanent engravings, has more charges than magic marker 23:58 <@luxidream> grunthack already beat you to that 23:59 <@carlarc> damn 23:59 <@luxidream> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Felt_marker 23:59 <@carlarc> more variants should have it though