00:01 Wand of sleep? 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11086 00:05 <@carlarc> silver dragon 00:07 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:08 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 00:13 <@carlarc> oh my god the knight quest is horrible 00:13 <@carlarc> i can't see the quasits from all that water 00:13 <@luxidream> FIQhack? 00:13 <@carlarc> yes 00:13 <@luxidream> Yeah FH dragons are busted 00:13 <@luxidream> get used to it 00:14 <@carlarc> what's with them? 00:14 <@carlarc> what changed 00:14 <@luxidream> really high speed, explosive breath 00:14 <@carlarc> oh yeah i was caught up in that 00:14 <@carlarc> very very lucky i had cold resistance 00:14 <@luxidream> You want cold immunity from a ring or armor 00:14 <@carlarc> definitely 00:15 <@luxidream> They are speed 20 00:16 <@luxidream> If they see you are immune to breath attacks they will close for melee 00:16 <@luxidream> Otherwise, will try to kite you at range 00:16 <@luxidream> Very nasty 00:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:23 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Kni Dwa Fem Law) defeated Ixoth, on T:21169 00:23 <@carlarc> wow that was actually pretty easy 00:23 <@carlarc> jousting is pretty good 01:02 <@carlarc> !tell FIQ wielding a lance makes this pop up 01:02 Will do, @carlarc! 01:02 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/534975793546133514/unknown.png 01:18 Beholder broke itself 01:19 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 01:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 01:24 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 01:44 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:17527 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 3196 points, T:3147, killed by a fire ant 01:45 <@carlarc> jesus christ getting gifts in fh is a pain 01:47 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Kni Dwa Fem Law) received Dragonbane from Lugh, on T:25113 01:47 <@carlarc> finally 01:53 <@carlarc> wow i have three sources of reflection 01:53 <@carlarc> that's annoying 01:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:13327 02:10 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Kni Dwa Fem Law) genocided cockatrices, on T:26574 02:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1289 points, T:2558, killed by a human zombie 02:35 [hdf-us] [fh] Wilehmina (permagreen) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 23732 points, T:1649, killed by a jaguar 02:36 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:38 -!- raisse is now known as Guest35119 02:38 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 02:39 -!- Guest35119 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:21 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 03:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Gaelan (Kni Hum Mal Law), 778 points, T:2541, killed by a magic missile 03:22 A goblin. 03:22 With a blindness potion. 03:22 In a shop. 03:22 -!- Gaelan has quit [Client Quit] 03:24 Accomplice. 03:28 EPI: hostile monsters in shops zap wands of make invisible at the shopkeeper. 03:29 Wouldn't that make the shopkeeper angry if the player did that? 03:29 But guys shoot up the shopkeepers all the time and they don't care 03:31 Andrio, LarienTelrunya: Shopkeepers are monsters, are they not? They just have a different, cleverer strategy for killing the player than the rest. 03:31 you mean zapping wands which don't always work? 03:32 The player is decieved into believing the shopkeepe isn't hostile to them, and as so doesn't murder them instantly like they would any other monster. The shk bides his time for the opportunity to spring his trap. 03:32 Mm 03:33 If the horse doesn't kill him first 03:33 technically shopkeepers are monsters, yes :) 03:33 I'm telling you, it all makes sense 03:34 they rip off the player with jacked up prices because they're part of the Wizard of Yendor's master plan to defeat the player, that's why they also enforce Rodney's fuel tax :D 03:35 EPI: every once in a while (e.g. once every 10k turns), the player character has to pay tax, which is 10% of the player's current amount of gold (including in containers) plus the deepest dungeon level reached * 100 plus the experience level * 1000. 03:35 You should write in a branch or something about the evil shk conspiracy 03:36 (EPI continuation) And the player has to pay those taxes in Minetown, within 2000 turns after receiving the bill, or the game will spawn tax collectors, which are very high-level K-class monsters that get stronger the more of them you kill and which respawn infinitely until you pay your bills. :P 03:37 Bonus EPI: if you are in Minetown while the tax collectors are after your hide, all the watchmen will be hostile. Even if you go there to actually pay up. They will try to kill you as you try to make your way to the tax master's office where you can pay. :D 03:37 but what if you don't use any fuel? 03:37 and you walk around in the dark 03:41 well the fuel tax will of course be added on top of the bill if you use fuel (it should become due if you ever light any ignitable item, and if you do it in the shop, the shopkeeper will collect his share of tax on top of it :D) 03:41 basically, because it's an EPI, it's all about ripping off the player as much as possible, draining their money supply. 03:43 EPI: the player character starts out married, with their spouse supposedly being outside of the dungeon, and if the game goes on for long enough, that spouse will want a divorce and a NPC will visit you to tell you about that fact. If you refuse to pay alimony, the spouse will send hitmen (invisible high-level assassins with vorpal weapons) to kill you. :P 03:44 don't think being in the dungeon counts as a reason for divorce if you are the Chosen One and it has been known since birth that you would be sent off to the Dungeons of Doom. 03:44 even if you visit her every so often at the quest level? 03:45 since in nethack, unlike most roguelikes, your homeland actually does exist 03:48 yeah but you only ever visit a small area of that homeland 03:48 "You've changed. You're not the same person you were before you went off to hack ants and eat molds." 03:49 -!- phinxy has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:49 "I've heard that you were having intercourse with succubi in those dungeons, you unfaithful bastard! Face the wrath of my rolling pin!" :P 03:50 attie: Clearly you're not the Chosen *One*, there are bones, after all, so all nethack runs are in a continuous universe. I think it's more like, the gods go "Welp, that guy failed, time to give divine inspiration the next guy, hope he does better" 03:50 And then I guess they just keep losing the amulet after a while after someone actually does ascend 03:51 the gods just have an eternal game of capture the flag by proxy going. 03:51 whoever gains the amulet becomes the new moloch. 03:52 :O I like that theory 03:52 deep nethack lore exploration going on here 03:53 Only one chosen one allowed at any one time 03:53 per god 03:53 only allowed to designate as new chosen one anyone born after the last one died 03:55 chosen one has to be picked at birth, not allowed to wait and see which of them grows up extra strong/bright 03:56 wide-angle disintegration beam is your god ragequitting on you 03:58 when your god is being unhelpful, they're hoping you die quick because there's a really strong valkyrie pregnant over there and they have high hopes for her kid 04:00 Now, as we know when a hacker ascends, he achieves immortality 04:00 Say a hacker, call him "aozdict" or something, has ascended a few years ago 04:00 Maybe he got bored just watching the gods run their game of capture-the-flag, and proposes his own ideas to keep it interesting, say we call them ynethack or whatever 04:05 -!- pellsson has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:12 eternity does get a bit boring after a while. 04:12 -!- pellsson has joined #hardfought 04:13 LarienTelrunya, your variant has a chastity belt right? 04:14 bug_sniper: yes, but it doesn't actually prevent sex or pregnancy :D all it does is ward against the possibility of catching a STD 04:15 and what if you've had a gender change before you find your spouse again? 04:16 I guess there's its own challenges 04:17 *shrug* doesn't impede IRL couples either 04:17 (at least I have a trans friend who is still married to the woman she married when she was still passing as a man) 04:20 if a couple really loves each other, the partner's gender shouldn't matter :D 04:22 "shouldn't" and "really" makes that very no-true-scotsmany 05:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:14168 05:24 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 05:30 -!- stennowork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 303739 points, T:42736, choked on a quivering blob corpse 05:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14794 05:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:50 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:01 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 06:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 14799 points, T:6609, killed by a tiger 06:40 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:18397 06:59 -!- j has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- j is now known as rebatela 07:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3618 07:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4760 07:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:5004 08:02 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:35961 08:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6685 08:11 he kitten devours a fortune cookie. The kitten turns into an ogre mage! 08:11 *The 08:11 chameleons immitating kittens are more common than actual kittens in splice 08:14 regardless, it just wandered down the soko corridor and stayed there. Perfect behaviour for a pet. 08:15 Someone spilled potion of polymorph on the cookie 08:15 and got killed by the first monster it encountered. At least I don't have to figure out how to get it out of the corridor. 08:16 mm 08:17 heh, YASI/EPI: food can be spiked with potions, which makes the food do stuff depending on the kind of potion if you then eat it. In the EPI version, food could generate already spiked and you have to formally identify it if you want to know in advance whether that fortune cookie will polymorph you. :P 08:17 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:17 EPI: having potions thrown at you might spike food in your open inventory 08:21 without telling you that it happened, of course. :) 08:22 yeah. 08:22 Though in vanilla, the range of potions monsters throw at you is a bit tame for that 08:22 at worst, you'd get paralyzed, which is common anyway 08:23 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:24 hi! 08:24 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:26 ...and got a "silver bejeweled amulet", which obviously I can't wear because it's silver. 08:26 1st world infernal problems :P 08:26 Hello 08:26 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 08:26 well I'm only doing soko early because I got orctown, so no point persisting there. 08:28 but I haven't been able to make any good starts stick, so maybe this will be the one. 08:29 so i rebuild our SANS from scratch 08:30 re-importing the last of the VM's now 08:30 i've got a 4TB one that's taking forever 08:31 the old setup had no read cache or dynamic spare 08:31 so many other things that was misconfigured... now it's good 08:31 s/was/were 08:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 18137 points, T:8944, killed by an energy vortex 08:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:44 or maybe not 08:46 :( 09:01 how many different death messages did antigulp make? and I assume its random 09:01 that's pretty cool 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 369 points, T:965, killed by a large dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 16 points, T:12, killed by a water demon 09:07 stick around, you'll eventually see them all 09:09 but not tonight. I'm off. g'night! 09:21 gnite Tangles 09:24 -!- asdf__ has joined #hardfought 09:25 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3354 09:37 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3400 09:42 -!- Gaelan has quit [Client Quit] 09:45 -!- asdf__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:57 PavelB: *removes fake mustache/nose/glasses* who is this "aozdict" and "ynethack" you speak of? 09:57 ;) 09:58 aosdict: were you going to make an object materials patch for vanilla? or was that just you thinking of things out loud 09:59 <{Demo}1> znethack 09:59 <{Demo}1> the final variant 10:00 wow I just saw that reddit post in #nethack. could you get any more dense 10:03 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 10:13 which post 10:13 oh 10:13 THAT one 10:15 why are people even replying? dont you know not to feed the trolls? 10:15 obvious he/she/it wants the attention 10:16 what post was that? 10:16 oh if it was a troll who cares 10:16 never mind 10:16 :) 10:17 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/agj0ol/is_there_a_way_to_tell_if_my_account_got_banned/ <--- because I know stenno really wants to know 10:17 well I did some research, and I now know the nao username of that person, and her previous reddit account (which seems to be disabled now), and also that she is a supporter of alt-right. If I were dtype or paxed, I'd not give in if she asks for an unban. 10:18 Didn't expect her to stoop so low though. 10:18 nothing stopping them from making a new account. unless they banned her IP 10:18 and there's ways around that too 10:19 I guess it was a matter of time until someone comes along and abuses the mail system :( 10:19 -!- pellsson has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:24 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 10:26 <{Demo}1> I mean it's kind of funny in a certain way 10:27 its funny in a 'you're an idiot' way 10:27 <{Demo}1> yeah 10:27 <{Demo}1> like I was expecting something a lot more boring 10:27 <@Tone> It sounds like their actions weren't very funny 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6009 points, T:3015, killed by a white unicorn 10:28 pretty sure that if she keeps posting on reddit she'll also fall back into her old (bad) posting habits there and annoy everyone 10:28 nope 10:28 played as 'feminist' bwahahaha 10:29 Edit the save to #name all their items "don't be an arsehole" and to guarantee death around the next corner. Unban account. Wait a bit. Reban account. 10:29 <{Demo}1> haha 10:30 <{Demo}1> that would be something I could see kerio doing 10:30 i have been pinged 10:33 now you've done it {Demo}1... 10:34 i thought he had to ping him three times 10:34 this is why we can't have nice things 10:35 <{Demo}1> ah fuck oops 10:41 LarienTelrunya: is the old reddit handle "ThatFeministGirl"? 10:41 -!- pellsson has joined #hardfought 10:41 aosdict: yep 10:41 yeah I remembered that 10:42 always knew that there was something wrong with her, but this is a new low (I watched the ttyrec of the nao player who got those messages and... wow... yeah instant ban with no possibility of appeals I'd say) 10:42 man the original swagginnz post now has less upvotes than the repost 10:42 what is this shit 10:42 reddit 10:43 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:43 at some point i will just leave reddit for good 10:43 most of the communities are just circlejerks and noobs 10:43 the subreddit for my favorite band death grips is one of those circlejerks 10:44 death grips is a meme band but most of the memes posted are terrible 10:44 stennowork: join r/slashemextended then! we're also a circlejerk but at least we jerk off to a nethack variant! :P 10:44 sure why not 10:44 i assume it's relatively low-traffic anyway 10:44 yeah, 27 subscribers right now 10:45 <{Demo}1> I refuse to use reddit cause bad 10:45 but warning: "bundlebundlebundle" may appear randomly throughout my posts there :D 10:45 * stennowork is fine with bundling 10:45 <@luxidream> why is every subreddit eternal September 10:45 Because the whole internet is. 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1014 10:46 seriously the programming related subreddits are a bunch of shit 10:46 * hothraxxa sends luxi a cd with 300 free hours 10:46 just because there are so many noobs on it 10:46 we appologize. 10:46 now, there is nothing wrong with it as such, but as soon as you delve deeper into language, your only choice basically is IRC :D 10:47 somehow all the pros hang around on freenode, which is nice 10:47 I've seen some good stuff in programming reddits. 10:47 Like the only good explanation of fronted tooling so far. 10:47 frontend 10:49 like, webpack + babel + react and stuff? 10:49 Yeah. 10:49 How it all comes together. 10:49 Which for a newb is quite inscrutable. 10:49 yes, the JS ecosystem is.. confusing 10:49 And most devs are totally unable to break free from their daze. 10:49 thats true 10:49 And explain things lucidly. 10:49 <@luxidream> I mean, the internet is capable of having more in-depth discussions. Just not reddit 10:50 Reddit is huge. 10:50 There are good parts too. 10:50 yeah, they are rather few and far apart. 10:50 But still better than random internet browsing. 10:52 for me ##javascript has been the most help - it depends a bit who is online at the moment of your question being asked of course 10:52 the inpermanence is probably the biggest problem with IRC support 10:52 Hm, might have try it sometimes. 10:52 I guess it's quite busy? 10:52 but like, ##javascript has ~1k members 10:52 yeah, often 10:53 #perl on Freenode is amazingly helpful though. 10:53 It full of really knowledgeable people. 10:53 oftentimes you will find regulars arguing about best practices and patterns/antipatters 10:53 If ##javascript is 50% of that, it would be worth joining. 10:53 Mandevil, one thing is to find a knowledgable person, then other thing is finding one that is also willing to explain it to you with patience :) 10:54 it's much more noob-friendly than, say, #html for example 10:55 the op of #html is quite trigger happy 10:55 Well, HTML isn't really something I'd have much trouble with. 10:55 there are a few basic rules that you have to know, and then you can look everything up easily 10:55 HTML is also fairly simple, compared to CSS. 10:56 coolest thing i learned there was:

<- invalid in HTML4, valid in HTML5 10:56 i guess yeah 10:56 Hm, really? 10:56 yeah because html5 doesn't have this block vs inline thing anymore 10:57 html5 has display : inline, block and inline-block 10:57 yes but that's css :) 10:57 Yes, but those are implicit display's for the elements. 10:57 div is implicitly block. 10:57 a is implicitly inline. 10:58 that is a recommendation from the CSS UA specs 10:58 it's not mentioned anywhere in the actual HTML5 spec 10:58 (however it was part of HTML4) 10:58 Like a compliant browser can have div inline by default? 10:58 Mandevil, actually, the `initial` value is for display is "inline" 10:59 for any element 10:59 Interesting. 10:59 as usual with whatwg specs, they are always super vague 10:59 But can I reasonably expect DIV to be block? 10:59 yes 10:59 so, why? 10:59 <{Demo}1> just use flexviews 10:59 <{Demo}1> for everything ever 11:00 Mandevil, why what? 11:00 Why can I expect DIV to default to display: inline. 11:00 I mean block 11:00 because in the CSS spec, they give a recommendation that UA (like browsers) should provide this default UA stylesheet, which says that DIV is display: block 11:01 lemme find it actually 11:01 Should... but not must. 11:01 yeah 11:01 Hey, I gotta go home. 11:01 oh ok 11:01 And this discussion doesn't belong here anyway. 11:02 <{Demo}1> hdf has no topic 11:02 See you later. 11:02 Mandevil, just here is the intro sentence in the rendering section: User agents are not required to present HTML documents in any particular way. However, this section provides a set of suggestions for rendering HTML documents that, if followed, are likely to lead to a user experience that closely resembles the experience intended by the documents' authors. 11:02 the typical whatwg/w3c vagueness :D 11:02 anyway, see you later o7 11:02 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:02 stennowork: Lol! 11:04 -!- Gaelan has quit [Client Quit] 11:05 <{Demo}1> "K[two]: [no ping plz] so there's no misunderstanding - <#389212978030968832> will always be 'anything goes' as far as topics go" 11:05 Mandevil, to finish this: the 'display' value makes no statement about in which context a html element is valid 11:05 <{Demo}1> ah oh well the weird shit is supposed to say the channel name 11:06 Mandevil, however the html5 content category/permitted content does. maybe lets talk more about it later when you are back (and interested anyway) :D 11:17 -!- every has joined #hardfought 11:22 -!- every has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:33 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed historic fixed +5 oilskin cloak named prop. of the crisco kid", on T:36839 11:34 in the prop of the crisco kid.... 11:34 AaaAAA 11:34 aaahaaa 11:34 (var. King Crimson - In the court of the Crimson King) 11:35 it's the 21st century 11:35 SCHIZOID 11:36 such a great album 11:36 outstanding album 11:36 aye 11:36 with greg lake as singer! 11:36 your taste in music seems to be a generation behind your age 11:36 i see that as a good thing 11:36 i like a lot of music 11:37 i also listen to 2018 industrial/experimental hip hop :P 11:37 which tbh pretty much fits in with acid 11:37 shrug idk 11:39 oh crap another unnethack smoky potion wish 11:39 what to get, t-shirt? 11:39 silver saber? 11:40 100 +3 poisoned silver arrows? 11:40 a javelin 11:40 or maybe some nice plate mail 11:41 got a t-shirt and werebane 11:41 actually i think i'll get a nice crystal pick 11:41 world peace 11:41 oh nice 11:43 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "holy historic +3 crystal pick named !meth", on T:36845 11:44 <@Tone> stennowork: heh, I noticed the swagginz article was on the reddit frontpage as three different submissions the other day 11:44 yeah annoying 11:44 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:45 <@Tone> Are there active mods there? Duplicates should probably be deleted, unless there's too much discussion already by the time it is noticed 11:45 <@luxidream> If I ever beat Adeon’s record, I guarantee you there will be people who will say “lul that isn’t WR beat 7 minutes!!!” 11:45 <@Tone> lol lux 11:46 yeah i saw that one of the admins actually posted in a duplicate post 11:46 skeeto 11:47 he linked to hackernews in the repost 11:47 <@Tone> Ah, yeah they responded pretty quickly a while back when a submission of mine was caught in the spam filter 11:47 hothraxxa: your prop of the crisco kid cloak made me think of The Frisco Kid 11:49 @Tone also ais523 is a mod I think, so if he's online you can ask him for stuff 11:49 he is not a reddit mod 11:49 <@Tone> @luxidream I'd suspect that you could probably ascend in well under an hour if you had a stuffed bones file, which feels equivalent enough to unlimited wishes 11:50 <@Tone> You wouldn't have the benefit of knowing the future or bot automation though 11:50 could just play a few explore mode games for fun i guess 11:50 yeah, still couldn't crack sub 7 minutes I think 11:51 <@luxidream> Assuming perfect bones stuffing probably less than 30 min 11:55 <@luxidream> Actually, would it be reasonable to make explore mode a config option in hdf? 11:57 I'm fairly sure you still get regular bones levels in explore mode, so that could be used to "purge" a variant of existing bones files with no real risk 11:58 <@luxidream> Does it work that way in NH4? 11:59 <@luxidream> Explore mode is allowed on server there 11:59 7 minutes is sooo long :( if we turned off rendering i bet you she would ascend in sub 10 seconds. 12:01 (not that there is anything to prove at this point, just trying to defend the lousy time ;)) 12:01 <@luxidream> I’m lucky to be at minetown in less than a minute 12:02 you are presumably human though :) 12:02 sub 1 min to minetown is crazy 12:06 <@luxidream> pellsson: question though, why was it necessary for a human to find the fountain that could be manipulated 12:14 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:17 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 12:20 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided arch-liches dungeon wide on T:36958 12:20 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided master liches dungeon wide on T:36960 12:25 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) had athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:24676 12:26 \o/ 12:26 1st gift! 12:27 need to fix that livelog formatting 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5885 points, T:2840, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 12:32 [hdf-us] [un] pellsson (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 33408 points, T:11047, killed by a leocrotta 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 268 points, T:529, killed by a hobbit 12:48 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:58 tfw i should be able to play nethack at my parents now 12:59 no >2s lag over cellular, or 40% packet loss internet + massive >1s jitter 13:00 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 13:05 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:15 -!- Anerag has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:23 LarienTelrunya, K2: I responded on that reddit thread 13:24 dtype: hopefully banning her(?) closes that case, trolls like that are known to make new accounts to continue trolling 13:24 LarienTelrunya: hopefully this just ends it. Will see. 13:24 don't have these problems often 13:25 but yes, I banned the account 13:25 -!- Anerag has joined #hardfought 13:25 stennowork: ^^ 13:25 good dtype 13:25 just the account? no ip ban? 13:26 I didn't bother to go look for the IP. I don't log all session IPs I think, so would have to catch them online. 13:26 ah 13:26 we'll see what goes from here. hopefully doesn't come to IP banning 13:26 the racial slurs would be a perm ip ban here 13:26 but the particular insults and harassment being thrown were first order and didn't deserve a warning 13:27 yeah can confirm, I saw the ttyrec with the slurs and I'd have given an immediate ban with no possibility of appeals too 13:27 yeah from the description, we're past a warning 13:28 i've only ever had to perm ban someone once since hosting nethack 13:28 when i was running FPS type game servers, it was a couple every month or more 13:28 I actually waited for the second person to report it 13:29 but after the second for the same user, with same type of first order unacceptable, pulled the trigger 13:29 yup 13:29 the person also didn't register with a valid email address, so not as if I could send a warning anyway 13:30 dunno if they still exist or not... way back in the day (original counterstrike, quakeworld, quake2, etc) there was an online clan called myg0t. their sole purpose for existience was to cheat and grief players on as many servers as possible 13:31 they would target servers with pro-active admins and communities and try to take over a server and chase everyone away. i had a run in with them like that a couple times 13:34 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:43 <@carlarc> poor grey-elf 13:43 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/535167331853402112/unknown.png 13:46 luxidream: Not per se necessary, but otherwise pellsson would have to have written a bot to explore the first few dungeon levels (in a fair game, as a Tourist) to look for one. 13:51 K2: Judging by (ugh) reddit, myg0t is effectively dead 13:51 i should hope so 13:51 otherwise 20+ would be an amazing run for such a 'clan' 13:51 20+ yrs 13:53 Eh, SA Goons (who, for the avoidance of doubt, I am not suggesting are similar) are coming up on their 20th birthday :-) 13:53 heh 13:54 i didn't even know the salvation army had goons 13:54 their bell ringing is just brutal 13:54 i guess they hit you with their tubas 13:55 I hear salvation army is pretty shit 13:55 They're pretty near the bottom in terms of what percent of your donation actually goes anywhere 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 839 points, T:1772, killed by a gnome 13:57 wtf? what's this about nastygrams? 13:57 somebody sending nastygram mails? 13:57 in nh 14:13 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1839 points, T:2688, killed by a killer bee 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 974 points, T:1790, killed by a dwarf 14:15 i was told that the salvation army is some sort of fundamentalist christian organization which are very aggressive against lgbt 14:15 oh yeah 14:15 that 14:15 Honestly it feels like every charity is crap 14:16 i am sure that there are bona fide charities 14:19 but fuck the fundamentalists 14:19 My smile.amazon.com and Humble Bundle are set to Child's Play 14:19 or as illuminatus! puts it, DEATH TO ALL FANATICS 14:21 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:24 Croesus wields a cursed crude dagger! The crude dagger welds itself to Croesus' hand! 14:24 * hothraxxa snickers 14:25 <@carlarc> how does that even happen 14:25 <@carlarc> doesn't he generate with a sword 14:25 a two-handed sword 14:25 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:39792 14:30 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:34 * aosdict starts xnh debug game, cursed silver magic lamp right next to stairs 14:35 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 14:39 <@carlarc> !tell FIQ apparently dipping a potion of acid into water makes it both explode and corrupt the save 14:39 No worries, @carlarc, I've got this! 14:39 good old acid bugs ^_^ 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:46, killed by a water moccasin, while reading a book 14:41 <@luxidream> aosdict: YANI - Special full-screen message for Vlad if the player is wielding a bullwhip 14:49 > full-screen 14:49 Shame nethack only supports one font size 14:49 wat 14:49 NetHack supports any font size my terminal does 14:49 ^ 14:49 Only one font size *at a time* 14:50