00:02 <@luxidream> you would have to replace choking with some penalty, otherwise the dominant strategy becomes "eat every food ration and corpse as soon as you find it to lighten your load" 00:03 <{Demo}1> uhh choking abuses con 00:03 <{Demo}1> and nomul for some time 00:03 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:03 <@luxidream> oh, you mean just removing the death? 00:03 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 00:03 <{Demo}1> yes 00:03 <{Demo}1> you just vomit 00:04 @luxidream well, if you kept a cap at 2000 food, you would still have to carry stuff around so you don't starve later 00:10 <@luxidream> that's fine 00:10 <@luxidream> I've died enough times by choking on food to be embarassed about it 00:18 -!- Lymia has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:10 -!- PavelB has quit [K-Lined] 01:10 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 01:12 -!- Pavel has quit [Client Quit] 01:13 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 01:14 -!- Pavel has quit [Client Quit] 01:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:20 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 11906 points, T:13769, killed by an ochre jelly 01:42 -!- Skippy_ has joined #hardfought 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] UltimateThule (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:47155 01:46 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:04 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:18 {Demo}1: what the fuck do you mean with "the amy approach would remove nutrition altogether", did I do that in slex? no :P do I plan to do it in future versions? hell no! why would I remove nutrition from the game 02:18 LarienTelrunya: Message from @Winsalot at 2019-01-14 17:29 EST: hey, first of all in my current game I have found 7 implants so far. I thinks that's a little excessive. Also, what does "full nutrients" intristic do? 02:19 !tell @Winsalot the RNG probably rolled implants to be the item class that's more frequent in that game; works as intended ;) full nutrients means that everything that reduces your nutrition only reduces it by half the usual amount, so you have longer until you become hungry. 02:19 No worries, LarienTelrunya, I've got this! 02:20 aosdict: why do you not like the "amy approach" to carry cap? I've mentioned it on reddit already: weight micromanagement and having to build stashes are an absolutely anti-fun feature, I'd much rather stack boxes IRL for 8 hours straight than having to go back and forth between stashes in nethack 02:23 inventory should be limited to one item tbh, up to you if you need armor or a weapon more ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) 02:24 heh, in the pokemon mystery dungeon games you start out with a 1-slot inventory; the first time I played one of those, I thought "what the hell are they serious? you can only ever have one item?" 02:24 lol 02:24 but thankfully it gets increased to 20 slots rather soon :) 02:35 aosdict: also my fixation on samurai playability or lack thereof in non-slex variants is because if I already have to suffer through having to play a non-slex variant (because I want the junethack trophies), I want to do it with a role that I actually know how to play. And the samurai is the only one for which that is the case. Tried barbarians and died horribly. 02:35 <@carlarc> suffer 02:36 <@carlarc> how can you say such a thing 02:37 @carlarc: slex has everything I ever want from a variant, and the things it doesn't have, no other variant has either (because they only exist on my slex to-do list :P). In fact, SLASH'EM is basically the real vanilla for me, it has so much quality of life stuff that other variants simply don't have... 02:37 for example the ability to shift-K to see which monsters you have already killed! 02:37 or the ability to #force doors (dnethack at least has that too), or of course #technique, or the better way of handling the eating menu... 02:40 Pinkbeast: whaaaaaat, who are "we", and why did they try to make Jubilex remove assault rifles from slashem??? WTF? good thing they didn't succeed :P 02:41 *removing* stuff from SLASH'EM??? heresy! 02:47 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:38 -!- Skippy_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:25 python --version 04:25 no 04:25 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:39 Python hits. Python bites. Python chokes on whitespace. 04:57 also 3.4.3 does not seem to have have indefinite article 04:58 (not that I chose to play a knight, typoed into random 3.4.3) 04:58 got killed by a pack of rothes in minetown (new weapon syndrome) 06:48 reading again. I should really not do that. 06:52 [hdf-us] [dyn] Qi (krm26) (Val Hum Fem Law), 6223 points, T:14061, killed by a fire giant, while sleeping 06:58 !tell antigulp "A carving of this room depict a battle between wumpuses and foxen." - not sure if you're just messing the grammar up to be ironic, but it should be 'depicts' and 'foxes'. Correct plural of wumpus I cannot help you with. 06:58 antigulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Tangles. 07:01 Wumpi? 07:01 Wimpi wumpi 07:01 ah yes... I forgot about the silver thing. 07:02 oops~ 07:03 well, (vanilla) NetHack says 'wumpuses' 07:06 It's an exception to the 'us -> i' rule 07:16 Tangles: "foxen" is a geek joke 07:17 but I agree that it should be 'depicts' 07:21 Tangles: splicehack is just behind on pulling vanilla (over a month I think), so it doesn't contain the foxen fix I submitted. 07:23 LarienTelrunya: Slex's approach to carry cap takes one of the dimensions of the game that provides some interesting decisions and axes it entirely. So there's nothing important about carrying around a big heavy box as opposed to a bag, there's no downside in wishing for a heavier artifact, there's no interesting tradeoff with armor AC versus weight... 07:24 wumpora (like corpora), wumpodes (like octopodes), wumpus (like, well, Latin fourth declension, can't think of an example) 07:24 aosdict: eh, you make it sound like the player's carry cap was limitless in slex, which it isn't; especially if you carry around reserve gear and stuff in that box, it's still very possible to reach the cap 07:32 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 07:35 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:47 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 07:53 that's 3 to the leocrotta now. 07:53 same one every time? 07:53 I wonder if it gains levels 07:54 "trampled by an arch-leocrotta" 07:57 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 07:59 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: also, how do you imagine implants in slex? As breast implants or brain implants? :) 07:59 @Winsalot: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-01-15 02:19 EST: the RNG probably rolled implants to be the item class that's more frequent in that game; works as intended ;) full nutrients means that everything that reduces your nutrition only reduces it by half the usual amount, so you have longer until you become hungry. 07:59 you could stick "arch-" onto the beginning of any monster that starts with l 07:59 arch-lemure, arch-leprechaun 08:01 @Winsalot: I imagine them as slex implants :D but actually I imagine the implant as kind of a pair-of-tweezers-like thing that you plug into your head slightly above your ears; since you only have two ears, you can only install one such implant :) 08:08 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:16 raisse: yeah same one 08:17 sounds like that sort of implant would interfere with helmets 08:23 <@Winsalot> I often think that I could make a variant that it is pretty much slex but better. But then I remember that it would take a lot of work and effort and then I know that I will never make anything at all :( 08:24 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Wiz Inf Fem Cha), 76 points, T:244, killed by a fox 08:24 <@Winsalot> I have lots of ideas though :) 08:25 morning 08:27 <@Winsalot> Hi 08:27 Hello @Winsalot, Welcome to #hardfought 08:30 @Winsalot Depends largely on your views on game balance. Do you agree with slex that the game is unbalanced if it can be won consistently? 08:31 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:31 I guess the phrase "slex but better" could go in nearly any direction, whether it be adding more stuff, cutting out stuff a la SLASHTHEM, changing randomhard things to not be so, etc etc 08:33 if a game could be won consistiently all the time by *anyone* that might be a problem... but just because a handful of players have honed their skill of the game and can win more often than not does not make it unbalanced imo 08:34 K2: well yes, that's the conventional every-variant-except-slex view on balance. 08:34 yup 08:35 bu tthat's the beauty of open source. dont like the way the original game plays? make your own. if people like it, they'll play it. if they dont, they wont 08:38 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 724 points, T:1496, eliminated by a parrot 08:39 also Amy doesn't program _her_ game to please _you_ 08:40 I guess she would be perfectly happy if no one but herself played the game 08:40 ^ that 08:40 and there's nothing wrong at all with that 08:40 totally perverted BTW. a programmer playing and enjoying their own game. who ever heard of that? 08:40 and i'd be a liar if i said my work on evilhack wasnt geared towards my likes and dislikes 08:41 but i'd like to see play and enjoy it as well 08:41 if i can ever get it ready for public consumption 08:44 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 151 points, T:570, overpowered by a small mimic 09:34 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 09:41 <@Winsalot> aosdict: I have no problem with game balance, though I think some mechanics are slightly too cruel. Also I don't like pokemon references and high heels in slex. Also I have a problem with lack of documentation, but I guess that I wouldn't bother documenting my own game if I ever created one. 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1287 09:43 No longer banned from freenode feelsgoodman 09:44 High heels> you're onto a loser with that one 09:44 Apparently 3 pipes in a row tripped the spam filter 09:44 * Pinkbeast unwisely types ||| 09:45 So just fuck everyone using F# (it's the bitwise or operator) 09:45 > The sequence of pipe characters you sent tripped an over-excitable ASCII-art spam detection trigger, from back when the spammers were posting ASCII-art spam all over the network. 09:45 > I've disabled that now, as that's clearly a little too sensitive :) 09:45 Er, well, it seems I can type ||| as much as I like. 09:49 <@Tone> Now we're going to start seeing triple-pipe ascii art spam 09:50 PavelB: Ah, right - that crossed with your message saying the filter was removed. 09:50 I guess at least here if you do get false-positived you can hop onto Discord to complain about it 09:51 <@Tone> a|||ah is doing 09:57 haha 09:58 Pave||B is not doing a|||ah is doing 10:02 So I was typing out a Perl substitution command to correct a typo, s/foo/bar/. Except the words were urls with slashes, so I was like dangit should have used the s||| form and not the s/// form 10:03 hop onto Discord> just don't say "Hey, I typed ||| and got kickbanned", thus causing rld to get kickbanned. 10:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:14 @Winsalot: the lack of documentation is indeed a part of slex I should be working on more, but there's basically only the wiki as far as documentation goes 10:14 PavelB: s{...}{...}; 10:14 LarienTelrunya: Eh, at least you've got a monster memory. 10:14 yeah and in-game item descriptions, but no in-game trap descriptions for example 10:15 and with about 500 different trap types, even I can't remember the effect of every single one ;) 10:15 Also, it's possible that the anti-spam bot also considers things like whether you're authenticated with NickServ. 10:15 And how long you've been connected. 10:15 <{Demo}1> hey amy i cant connect to esm 10:15 Traps in general aren't so bad, the name "trap" generally hints that standing on it is bad. # yes, doubtless SLEX has 65 traps you do want to stand on 10:16 {Demo}1: yeah me neither, probably the certs expired or something? 10:17 <{Demo}1> that wouldnt cause an issue with ssh 10:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:19 Right, ssh is less concerned with getting sites to pay the registrar cabal for new certs every year, than with warning the user if the site they're connecting to unexpectedly isn't the same one they connected to yesterday. 10:20 Very different model from https. 10:25 <{Demo}1> Web browsers should support http over ssh 10:25 If an https site accidentally lets its domain expire and gets taken over by low-life bottom-feeding scum advertisers, your browser is mainly concerned with checking that the low-life bottom-feeding scum advertisers paid money to Verisign or whoever. As long as that's the case, you get no warning. 10:25 Granted, you can usually _tell_, immediately, as soon as you look at the site. 10:25 But still. 10:25 I see we're back to the hyperbole channel 10:26 (Also, the spamvertisers who take over expired domains don't usually bother with ssl certs, in my experience.) 10:26 (Because they're on thin margins.) 10:27 thin... profit margins? 10:28 but you can get let's encrypt for free? 10:28 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:31 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 10:39 -!- Andrio has quit [Quit: while already on Charon's boat.] 10:39 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law), 829 points, T:1291, killed by a giant bat, while praying 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:2606 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 2994 points, T:2895, killed by a bolt of fire, while sleeping 11:09 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Cav Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:7549 11:09 !who 11:09 PavelB: [hdf-us] k2 [sp] Luxidream [nh362] bouquet [un] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 11:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:2293 11:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8407 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3948 11:38 jonadab: there is a somewhat recent system that solves the issue you bring up 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf lord, on T:11367 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12692 11:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4199 11:48 -!- every has joined #hardfought 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Anu, on T:18398 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 cursed greased scrolls of genocide", on T:18405 11:50 I can hear the nurses giggling now... 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law), 48582 points, T:18569, killed by a gray dragon, while dressing up 11:51 And now they're sad... 11:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:57 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:58 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:02 @luxidream does speed running lend itself well to nurse dancing? 12:02 <@luxidream> no, I was trying to get GDSM, unfortunately I forgot that vanilla doesn't interrupt you putting on armor if you get hit 12:03 <@luxidream> usually I don't think you have the resources to 12:08 4 hours in this channel and still no @luxidream ascension smh my head 12:09 oh oops you died 12:09 sorry >.< 12:09 <@luxidream> lol 12:09 <@luxidream> I'll try again when I'm feeling less stupid 12:09 fair :) 12:12 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 12:13 gah, the "for sale" in shops annoys me no end 12:13 @Luxidream: will you do a slex speedrun *bundlebundlebundle*? ;) 12:15 <@luxidream> "speedrun" as in under 24 hours? 12:17 heh, how fast is humanly possibly still has not been found out yet ;) 12:20 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:22 <{Demo}1> I mean tariru did it in under a month 12:22 <{Demo}1> that's faster than anyone else can do 12:26 <@Tone> So the current world record is around 4 weeks? I suppose there's room for improvement 12:26 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: are slex sokoban rewards randomized, or do they depend on final floor type? 12:27 <@luxidream> amy has WR actually 12:27 <@luxidream> at 32 hours 12:27 <@luxidream> older version though 12:29 <@Tone> Ah, nice 12:29 @Winsalot: levels generally don't depend on each other in slex, i.e. every single level is randomized 12:29 !who 12:29 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] k2 [sp] luxor [slshm] Bartlem [nh362] every [nh362] carlarc [fh] | [hdf-eu] winsalot [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:31 I'll be kind of afk now though because I'm preparing some döner kebab in the oven :D will check the chat intermittently 12:31 FIQ: I don't suppose you consider ssh to be "somewhat recent"? 12:31 ;-) 12:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:46 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 142 points, T:366, inhumed by a small mimic 12:56 doener in the oven smh my head 12:56 actually thats fine if it's cold already 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh343] UltimateThule (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an elf-lord, on T:54468 12:57 There's a doner kebab chain in Seattle. Kind of a novelty around here. 12:58 its a stock fast food in germany 13:00 And in the UK, even if takeaway doners are typically ghastly 13:03 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: I have a christmas miracle for you in progress: my current Golden Saint Anarchobinder 13:03 <@Winsalot> still in progress 😃 13:03 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/534794752319815700/golden_saint_WIP.png 13:06 @Winsalot: yaaaaaay you drew another char ♥♥♥ looks great! I guess that's him wearing the starting gear? 13:07 and I guess later versions will have a javelin, shield, cursed greased gloves (curious what those will look like) and other stuff? :D 13:08 <@Winsalot> Nah, that will be scale mail. But my character is too badass to wear the top part of this armor 😃 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3057 13:09 Winsalot: if I had abs like that I'd probably go around shirtless too 13:10 wait, does slex have anachronounbinder? 13:10 aosdict: I guess I should let {Demo}1 answer that :D 13:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5229 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a water nymph, on T:6263 13:21 Watery tart indeed... 13:23 <@carlarc> is there a way to blank stuff without moats that doesn't cause the source to evaporate/requires a pick 13:26 <{Demo}1> it does but it's way different from ndnh 13:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:28 @carlarc swamp 13:28 Pools 13:29 In general it's easy enough to get a pick in the Mines 13:32 <@carlarc> yeah but i'm playing lawful knight and don't want to nuke my alignment 13:33 <@carlarc> hmm 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 69893 points, T:10246, killed by an invisible golden naga 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 385 points, T:905, killed by a sewer rat 13:40 wait, what do picks have to do with blanking stuff? 13:40 oh, digging a fountain? 13:42 <@carlarc> yeah 13:42 <@carlarc> doesnt matter now, i remembered that i found a mattock earlier on 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1961 13:43 <@Tone> I think you can use a wand 13:44 carlarc: Even if you don't have a pet, it doesn't nuke your alignment. 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4799 13:47 <@Winsalot> Done. Golden Saint anarchobinder (me :)) vs some fungus type dungeon citizen 13:47 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/534805757133324288/golden_saint.jpg 13:47 <@carlarc> amazing 13:47 <@Winsalot> Thanks. It turned out a lot better than I expected. I also used mouse to draw this 😃 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:5362 13:49 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: done ^ 13:50 @Winsalot: awesome! whoa that fungus is huge :) and yay, a javelin! plus I guess the blue thing protruding from his head is the ferocious implant? 13:52 <@Winsalot> yeah, it's the implant 13:52 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 daggers on an altar, on T:3148 13:53 <@Winsalot> This armor offers great protection as well as stun. what does this mean? 13:53 <@Winsalot> does this armor stun me if I wear it? 13:53 it means that you probably don't want to use it, because yeah it'll stun you until you remove it 13:54 yaaaaaaay your god is Demo :D he's the best god ever! 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7470 13:56 <@Winsalot> Also, how do slex's skills like devices, polymorphing, implants and others get trained? 13:56 <@Winsalot> do I need to get messages that my implant blocks attack to train implant skill? 13:57 your implants skill trains slowly while you wear an implant, and significantly faster whenever it blocks an attack 13:57 devices trains whenever you zap a wand, read a scroll or spellbook, quaff a potion, or use a chargeable tool 13:57 in all cases where the item in question can have charges, it needs to actually have charges for the skill to train 13:57 and polymorphing trains only if you change form, i.e. your character has to polymorph, and then it trains according to the base level of whatever monster you turned into. 13:58 e.g. polymorphing into a level 20 monster will allow you to go from unskilled to basic 13:59 <@Winsalot> nice to hear how polymorphing is trainable 13:59 <@Winsalot> also what benefoits are from higher poly skill? 13:59 yeah the skill's name is misleading I guess; it specifically governs polyself 14:00 higher skill levels makes your polymorphs last longer and you deal more damage with your polymorphed form's attacks, have a lower risk of breaking your armor if you polymorph into something large, and a couple other benefits but I forgot which ones :D 14:00 ah right, also an increased chance of not dropping your gear if you polymorph into something that can't wear them (but you get a yes/no prompt in case you want to drop them anyway, e.g. if it's a cursed item you no longer want) 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:10122 14:03 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: I have found 10 implants so far 14:04 <@Winsalot> in this particular game 14:04 nice haul! 14:04 they're definitely more common in your game due to the RNG 14:04 your end-game enlightenment will probably read "The RNG decreed that this item class is more frequent: implants (freq bonus 100)" or something 14:09 @Winsalot I think your drawings mean that statistically slex gets more fanart than nethack itself :D 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a large dog, on T:12891 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 41951 points, T:13098, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:15 <@luxidream> _aaaaaaaaaaaaaa 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 577 points, T:1215, killed by a gnome lord 14:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:20 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:29360 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh343] UltimateThule (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:60707 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh343] UltimateThule (Tou Hum Mal Neu) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:60709 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fireproof +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4612 14:33 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: take a look at what is happening 14:34 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Cav Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker named Ticonderoga", on T:13709 14:34 @Winsalot: well I see a lot of undead; what's so special about them? 14:34 <@Winsalot> I think I got lucky to receive priest's quest floor 14:34 yeah looks like it 14:34 can you take them on? 14:34 <@Winsalot> gg 14:34 <@Winsalot> no 14:34 I mean, you're in the town branch, which is optional; can you just take the stair back down? 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:5694 14:35 <@Winsalot> strair down is in the temple 14:35 oh damn 14:35 how'd you end up outside? 14:36 <@Winsalot> I teleported 14:36 <@Winsalot> 😃 14:36 well you obviously need to get away from that throng of monsters; are your teleports controlled? 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6203 14:37 <@Winsalot> nah 😃 14:37 ugh 14:37 this is a situation where a confused scroll of taming could work wonders 14:37 also, if you had a wand of fire, it would be super-effective against most of the undead 14:38 awwwwwww rip :( 14:39 <@Winsalot> In this game, Eevee's evolution was flareon. 14:39 <@Winsalot> why is this always listed in the end 14:40 because it's randomized at game start what eevee will evolve into 14:40 it's slightly relevant if you decide to use one as a pet :D 14:41 <@Winsalot> oh 14:41 <@Winsalot> are they good pets? 14:41 <@Winsalot> 1Implants (freq bonus 85).` heh 14:41 @le?jolteon 14:41 jolteon (r) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 16 | Res: shock | Confers: shock | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d14 bite shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 14:41 hmm not all that powerful... 14:41 @le?flareon 14:41 flareon (r) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 10 | Res: fire | Confers: fire | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 5 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d12 bite fire | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 14:41 uhh yeah their damage output sucks 14:42 @le?umbreon 14:42 umbreon (r) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 11 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d16 bite remove-light | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 14:42 heh the umbreon would suck even more because every time it bites something, the area becomes unlit 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:7671 14:43 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: could you add option to turn off the 'features' where skills become untrainable if trained or not trained until some point 14:43 <@Winsalot> I really hate this feature 14:43 lol 14:44 sorry, this is slex, there is no easy mode :P 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 23786 points, T:7971, quit 14:48 -!- every has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 537 points, T:973, killed by a kitten 14:52 heya, I'm a selfpoly amateur and have a question... I have an opportunity to choose what I polymorph into just now. LVL10 Cavelady. Any suggestions or limitations I should be aware of? I don't want to destroy my armor. 14:53 UnNethack, btw 14:55 hm I don't know anytihng about un but for vanilla I'd say vampire lord 14:55 only take care not to bite any c 14:56 <@carlarc> c is also good for emergencies 14:57 hmmm... I'm currently hungry but vampire lords can't eat regular food, right? I have to drink their blood via #monster? 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1254 points, T:1666, killed by a gnome lord 14:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:58 <@luxidream> mmf 14:59 I should poly into Luxidream 14:59 <@luxidream> don't do that I'm currently failing hard rn 14:59 bouquet: that's the un thing I don't know 14:59 I went for vampire lord, thanks raisse 14:59 <@luxidream> yeah you get vampire mechanics as a vampire in un 15:00 I've only ever done xorn when =prot were edible. Polypiled a bunch of those and chowed down. 15:00 <@luxidream> mmf > vampire lord 15:01 <@luxidream> all the benefits of vampire lord, more powerful, better nutrition 15:01 good point. I was worried that the default attack of a mmf would suck cockatrice even if I have a wielded weapon. 15:01 <@luxidream> doesn't vampire bite cockatrices too 15:03 dang, I can't feed on gnomes and now I'm fainting :( 15:03 had to pray back to normal. 15:03 should have done mmf 15:03 next polytrap 15:07 nice, now a mmf 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 17111 points, T:10516, killed by a xorn, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:09 you have poly control but nothing to poly at will? 15:11 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 316 points, T:1117, killed by a dwarf 15:19 ya, got a ring. I won't go below minetown withour MR or a polycontrol ring due to the abundence of polytraps. 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:35409 15:34 I think it's overrating them to call them an abundance. 15:34 Also, remember it's DL 8+, not below Minetown necessarily. 15:48 seems like when I don't have polycontrol or MR they're everywhere. Variant paranoia cha cha cha. 15:49 @le?espeon 15:49 espeon (r) | Lvl: 11 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 11 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 3 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d15 bite confuse | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 15:49 @le?leafeon 15:49 leafeon (r) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 12 | Res: magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 1 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d18 bite magic missile | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 15:49 @le?glaceon 15:49 glaceon (r) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 10 | Res: cold | Confers: cold | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -1 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d22 bite cold | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 15:49 @le?sylveon 15:49 sylveon (r) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 12 | Res: magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -4 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d25 bite random breath | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous 15:49 wrong color 15:52 ehat type is it in pokemon 15:52 fairy 15:53 based on the name I would have guessed grass 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 2244 points, T:2108, killed by an invisible titan 15:58 <@luxidream> wouldn't leafeon be obviously the grass type though 16:02 how does sylveon speak "grass" to you? 16:02 sylv- = woods 16:02 @luxidream I'm not familiar with all the eevee evolutions 16:02 sylvan adjective 16:02 Definition of sylvan (Entry 2 of 2) 16:02 1a : living or located in the woods or forest 16:02 b : of, relating to, or characteristic of the woods or forest 16:02 2a : made, shaped, or formed of woods or trees 16:02 b : abounding in woods, groves, or trees : WOODED 16:03 aosdict: We call them eeveelutions :P 16:04 <{Demo}1> isnt sylveon the fairy one? 16:08 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:09 Yes 16:09 That is the point 16:09 12:53:25 PM <25B100+ aosdict> based on the name I would have guessed grass 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3347 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1704 points, T:3354, quit 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1341 points, T:3323, killed by a bat 16:29 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:31 you have a curious way of showing a timestamp 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3407 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3222 16:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4822 points, T:4689, killed by an ogre, while sleeping 16:52 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6903 points, T:5047, killed by a leocrotta 17:12 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 17:16 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:27 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 52326 points, T:14894, killed by a death ray 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 755 points, T:950, killed by an elf zombie 17:51 -!- boxest has joined #hardfought 18:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 7099 points, T:3734, petrified by a chickatrice 18:23 [hdf-us] [fh] Umberto the Unnicknamed (permagreen) (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 23344 points, T:2130, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 18:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 288 points, T:219, killed by a dwarf 18:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 210 points, T:488, killed by a hobbit 18:51 m) ? a scroll of teleportation named Word of Recall 18:52 Heh. 18:52 is there something special about named teleportation scrolls in unnethack? 18:52 Not that I'm aware of? 18:52 But note that "Word of Recall" is an Angband scroll. 18:52 i did not know that 18:52 Which (after a few turns' delay) returns you to the shop level. 18:52 i.e., the starting level. 18:53 Which is also where your stash is, because it's the only level where you can leave anything and not have it disappear immediately. 18:55 well now i have two of them. very suspicious 18:55 If it's not a bones level, there may be something Un-specific I don't know. 18:56 If I had to *guess*, I'd guess it's a cursed teleport scroll and thus will do levelport. 18:56 But that is a guess. 18:56 oh. i'm on the moria branch, so i'm assuming that has something to do with it 18:57 i also et a tengu. i are in control of me 18:59 <@luxidream> un moria branch 18:59 <@luxidream> they're just named for flavor 18:59 <@luxidream> they're all cursed 18:59 yeah I remember seeing those 18:59 hothraxxa: Oh, yes, Moria is to Angband as Hack is to NetHack, so that is definitely relevant. 19:00 just guaranteed cursed teleport scrolls that happen to be named 19:07 [hdf-us] [fh] Slyntle Slantle (permagreen) (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 19932 points, T:1941, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 19:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3885 points, T:2293, killed by a soldier ant 19:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1472 points, T:543, killed by a gnome lord 19:20 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 19:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 625 points, T:674, killed by a giant bat 19:24 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:32879 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 1201 points, T:1621, killed by a gnome lord 19:58 -!- boxest has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4823 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4840 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5875 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law), 579 points, T:743, killed by a wand 21:12 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (War Red Mal Neu), 4657 points, T:2367, quit 21:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law), 782 points, T:1858, killed by a gnome lord 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 190 points, T:656, killed by a small mimic 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law), 282 points, T:1321, killed by a wand 21:19 <{Demo}1> luxiderpee 21:19 <{Demo}1> d 21:25 <@carlarc> i'm a lawful knight and i already have far too many alignment losses to warrant just plowing through a throne room full of sleeping monsters, what are some ways of waking up monsters that won't just wake everyone up 21:25 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Zyb Asg Mal Neu), 733 points, T:1065, killed by a monster (spacewars fighter) 21:28 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 31260 points, T:7854, killed by a white dragon 21:31 @carlarc kick the air 21:32 oh wait you want a way that only wakes up one thing 21:32 uh.. kick the monster and hope it wakes up? 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "", on T:3380 21:33 generally things that wake up monsters are noise based so they can't be used on just one thing 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3381 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3381 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased spellbook of identify", on T:3528 21:38