00:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "greased fireproof +3 helm of opposite alignment", on T:41894 00:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:41901 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42021 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:42024 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44708 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:44954 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Cha), 697037 points, T:45025, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nh361/dumplog/1547433962.nh361.txt 00:33 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:39 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 01:10 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Ice Vam Mal Cha), 7832520 points, T:94799, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Disruptor/slashem/dumplog/1546915114.slashem.txt 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6025 01:10 -!- Disruptor has joined #hardfought 01:10 glorious victory 01:11 -!- Disruptor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 01:22 * Gaelan forgot that elbereth exists. Also, that's a double bones now—other guy was killed by the ants too 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Gaelan (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 1032 points, T:2823, killed by a giant ant 01:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 15090 points, T:7315, killed by an Uruk-hai 01:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:21 -!- stenno__ has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:44 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 02:55 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 03:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:02 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 03:40 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:19 -!- stenno__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:44 aosdict: double wide characters are not even that big of a problem. just don't use them :) there is not much of a loss if you don't support them. OTOH combining characters would be really neat. 04:47 aosdict: but that is hard to shoehorn into nethack's glyph system. that's why UTF8graphics of unnethack and 3.4.3-nao only supports single codepoints. that's still many more characters than DECgraphics and IBMgraphics provide 04:49 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 04:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Mal Neu), 275611 points, T:28721, killed by a giant spider 04:54 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:55 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 243 points, T:282, killed by a gas spore's explosion 05:08 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:27 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 06:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 35512 points, T:8474, killed by a deep gnome 06:47 <@carlarc> YANI to make two handed weapons a bit less dismissable: blessed gloves allow you to handle cursed weapons without having them weld to your hands 06:57 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:58 Eh, I think #tip already does a decent job of that. just keep a potion of holy water in a spare sack. 07:02 I guess there's still the edge case where you are levitating when your weapon gets cursed... 07:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:13 Kos gave me the Plague. 07:13 Tangles: Message from @luxidream at 2019-01-13 18:07 EST: curses bug I found, when engraving dulls a weapon, it doesn't update in perm_invent 07:13 @luxidream yeah I know. 07:14 Not a curses bug. I need to put together a list of places update_inventory() needs to be called for the devteam to fix. That is one of them. 07:16 I can't actually think right now what the others are... but I think there are a couple. 07:22 gotta be better than getting the plague, right? 07:24 ;) 07:25 -11° F this morning... time to go wait for the school bus :D 07:26 thats super cold man 07:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:50 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 07:52 morning 07:52 hi K2 07:53 hi raisse o/ 07:53 * raisse is on a train (in Germany) about to have an IRC meeting :-) 07:53 where in germany? 07:53 or rather, what's your destination? 07:53 between nuremberg and frankfurt 07:53 are you bassing through Braunschweig? 07:53 oh, then not 07:53 destination of this train = frankfurt, then arnhem, then home (deventer) 07:54 we'll be home about 9 tonight 07:54 yeah you are only in the south-southwest and not in northwest 07:55 we're in the Bordbistro now because our reserved seats were warm and uncomfortable and there's nobody in the Bistro anyway so we have a 4-person table for the 2 of us with laptops and beer 07:55 [hdf-us] [spl] carlarc (Arc Ang Nbn Law), 3210 points, T:4106, killed by an orcish arrow 07:55 very comfortable moving office 07:55 o7 07:55 hehe 07:55 but a bit expensive too ^_^" 07:55 <@carlarc> ow 07:55 well, we have tickets for this train anyway and we'd have wanted a beer anyway :-) 07:55 <@carlarc> forgot bat meat stunned you even if tinned 07:56 yes, that's not poison but a characteristic of it 07:56 footrice meat petrifies you even if tinned 07:56 <@carlarc> annoying 07:56 <@carlarc> just like how bats are always stunned, cockatrices are always stoned 07:57 <@carlarc> wait no 07:57 well, they're petrification-resistant and not acidic, so I'd argue they're sort of stone (like a gargoyle) 07:58 being stone*d* doesn't prevent being petrified, worse luck 07:59 raisse: the great thing about working in open source is IRC meetings :) 08:00 <@carlarc> hallucination making you stoning immune (because youre stoned) is equally as dumb as it is a good idea 08:00 <@carlarc> kind of like touch of death 08:01 yes, it's a ridiculous but perfect idea 08:03 "You are already stoned." 08:04 <@luxidream> hallu already protects against touch of death 08:04 <@luxidream> isn't it already OP 😉 08:06 it would be fun to chug down a potion of hallucination before attacking a cockatrice nest 08:06 that's "an out-of-body experience" right? 08:07 <@luxidream> you can't get purple L cheesed if you're hallucinating, clearly this means purple L are balanced? 08:07 <@luxidream> don't tell the devteam this, they'll actually believe it 08:07 haha 08:07 @luxidream did you have another sub-2h ascension yesterday? 08:08 <@luxidream> stenno: the dyna would have been sub 2 but it took 55 minutes to recover the save 08:08 oof 08:08 <@luxidream> the other two runs were 2:34 and 2:27 08:08 thought i saw a vanilla one 08:08 nice nice 08:08 so then 08:08 4 ascension on one day when 08:09 <@luxidream> I mean I can 08:09 <@luxidream> not today though, I'm starting to have classes again 08:10 classes 08:10 playing nethack is more important 08:10 <@luxidream> nah 08:10 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:10 (no, do your classes) 08:10 <@luxidream> I can play nethack whenever :p 08:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:16 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 08:18 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 08:20 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:30 * raisse is now eating yummy rice pudding 08:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 167 points, T:388, killed by a boulder 08:41 The rock mole eats 5 blessed silver daggers named +7ish Dagger of Virtue! 08:41 just great. 08:41 oh crap 08:41 was that all of them? 08:42 yep 08:42 NOOOOO 08:42 I didn't know rock moles ate silver! 08:42 ranged weapons suck 08:42 * K2 hands Tangles a scroll of genocide rock moles 08:44 silver daggers are more common in splice... I should be able to find more. Was just nice that that stack came pre-enchanted to +7. 08:45 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:46 I think monsters being able to eat a whole stack of things at once is probably a bug anyhow. 08:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:46 <@luxidream> These 10 food rations satiated your stomach! You choke over your food...You die. 08:50 just found all 3 vanish wands on 3 consecutive soko levels. 08:51 lol @luxidream 08:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3463 points, T:1686, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 09:04 [hdf-us] [spl] carlarc (Arc Ang Nbn Law), 1154 points, T:2996, killed by a mithril orcish arrow 09:04 <@carlarc> triple bones 09:04 <@carlarc> bfgbfgf 09:04 So in handling the sokoban zoo, I literally have no choice except to step into a spider web surrounded by hostile monsters and take my chances. 09:04 <@carlarc> you could get sting 09:05 <@carlarc> and cut the web down 09:05 yeah except that doesn't work 09:05 <@carlarc> why not 09:05 it does, the bug got fixe 09:05 d 09:05 because it says "sting cuts through the web" but it doesn't 09:05 <@carlarc> hm 09:05 that bug got fixed afaik 09:05 in vanilla, yes. 09:06 ah right 09:06 I didn't know you were playing something else atm 09:06 but the issue that caused the spider webs everywhere also got fixed there. 09:06 sting not working *and* spider webs everywhere was a pain in the unmentionables 09:07 You escape a web. The fire ant bites! The fire ant bites! You're on fire! (but of course the web isn't) 09:08 <@carlarc> can't you just leave sokoban for later 09:08 escaped the web but not the owlbear 09:08 no longer an option 09:08 and of course the web didn't catch the owlbear? 09:08 "defeated", mice 09:08 nice, even 09:08 (train is playing Movers and Shakers with me) 09:08 well no, I had to step on the web to fight the monsters because they would not 09:09 that was a shit run anyway after the rock mole got my daggers. 09:09 and Kos gave me the plague. 09:09 <@carlarc> wasn't there a command that made you automatically explore the entire map 09:09 Go team rock mole^W^W ant! 09:11 I think some vairants have autoexplore 09:11 Go team web 09:11 dnethack afaik 09:11 I think the nh4 variants may have it as well (nh4, fiqhack, fourk) 09:12 unnethack has it too 09:16 so I have already found both types of lamp, but not the downstairs on DL1 09:17 autoexplore> I think in NetHack-sized levels more useful is to be able to definitely see the borders of the explored area & to list all the objects on a level including unobserved stacks 09:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:19 auto explore is super useful in crawl, but not so useful in nethack imo 09:19 <@luxidream> great for speed running 09:19 <@luxidream> vvvvvvvvvvvv 09:19 seems like a waste of resources (i.e. food) 09:20 <@luxidream> It actually gets you more resources 09:20 <@luxidream> since you would be pickaxing through those levels without autoexplore 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1028 points, T:1355, killed by a gnome king 09:20 stennowork: Indeed - but I see it as doing three things; taking you into all the nooks and crannies you can't see on the screen (irrelevant in NetHack), taking you into nooks and crannies you didn't notice (solved by actually making the borders of exploration visible), making sure you see all the drops (addressed by being able to list objects) 09:22 <@luxidream> It also lets variants keep gehennom as a maze without extreme tedium 09:23 idk i have problems with not having direct control about where i run to 09:23 s/about/over/ 09:23 its a bit different with travel because there i know what the destination is at least 09:23 stennowork: It's not too bad for trap avoidance because it will always traverse a given room from door A to door B on the same path 09:24 [hdf-us] [spl] carlarc (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 141 points, T:1259, overpowered by a newt 09:25 <@carlarc> wands of create horde are annoying 09:25 overpowered 09:25 why is everyone splicing nowadays 09:25 (not that i have a problem with that but just wondering) 09:29 I still haven't actually played splice outside of wizard mode testing. 09:37 variants? I didn't know 3.6 fixed Gehennom :-} 09:38 hahah 09:39 Pinkbeast: one interesting pro for autoexplore is mobile play. the tablets versions are much more playable with it (the smartphone ones are still unplayable but for other reasons) 09:41 welp that's bedtime for me. 09:41 no! 09:41 err gnite! 09:41 :P 09:41 * K2 goes back to working on windows PDC migration stuff 09:41 got multi-shafted that game... was never going to end well. 09:42 yeah i've had spork games like that. best to just be put out of your misery 09:42 you know... fall down a shaft. start looking for upstairs. fall dowm another one. 09:42 anyway. good night. 09:43 gnite Tangles 09:43 good luck with the DC migration :) 09:45 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 09:46 bhaak: did splice fix gehennom in some way? 09:47 <{Demo}1> mutlishafted lol 09:52 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:53 aosdict: luxidream said "[autoexploring] also lets variants keep gehennom as a maze without extreme tedium" 09:53 <{Demo}1> too bad 09:54 @luxidream I should be offened, unnethack changed gehennom significantly 09:54 <{Demo}1> big cave world 09:54 <@luxidream> NH4 09:54 unnethack's gehennom is like sporkhack's right? 09:54 aosdict: I took one of the possible interpretation of that. likely the one not intended 09:54 <@luxidream> not un 09:54 i cant remember 09:55 K2: the places between medusa and castle that may be mazes in vanilla are spork's lava caverns. 09:55 right 09:56 gehennom itself, I don't even know if they may still appear there as most if not all has been replaced by heck^2 levels 09:56 i see 09:59 the only true, screen filling maze left should the level above the sanctum 10:01 doesnt sporkhack use heck^2 also 10:01 the wiztower levels and fakewiz levels have maze too? 10:01 on the fakewiz/wiztower levels and on the different demon levels, the open space is filled with mazes, but that's much less tedious, as constrained mazes like that are much faster to navigate 10:01 ^ er, like a question: Does the wiztower level and fakewiz still have the vanilla mazes in un 10:01 right 10:01 K2: I don't think so 10:02 oh right... ok 10:02 man so many variants 10:02 i like how sporkhack does gehennom 10:02 3.6.x has the wide caverns in gehennom, for some levels. but that is ugly as hell. even though it makes it much more dangerous 10:02 i also like what aosdict did with gehennom 10:08 what did aosdict do? 10:13 a total gehennom revamp 10:14 special rooms and stuff generate 10:14 its Neat™ 10:16 ah, I see. instead of the mazes you have mazes with some special rooms and wider areas punched out 10:17 the aosdict gehennom is really good 10:17 ^ that 10:17 best one i've seen so far tbhg 10:17 that is also how bigrooms should look like imo 10:17 but they wouldnt be big rooms then 10:17 big enough rooms 10:17 big room means big fucking room 10:18 yeah but it's a super poor design thing 10:18 i mean there are some layouts where you just don't have space to hide 10:18 you're not supposed to be able to? 10:18 its a Big Room™ 10:18 yeah, that's the idea 10:18 that's a stupid idea :v 10:18 awww 10:19 * K2 makes a version for stenno called EasyHack 10:19 it's not about easy, it's about being fair 10:19 :P 10:19 with the amulet of the starting square and an altar right next to it? 10:19 no such thing as fair 10:19 ever 10:19 things like bigrooms just lower the skill cap 10:20 fair is an illusion we tell ourselves to feel better about current situation 10:20 once you wrap your head around there not being an such thing as 'fair', better off you'll be 10:21 * LarienTelrunya is proud to be the author of a particularly unfair variant :) 10:21 *any 10:21 LarienTelrunya: Oh, as well as SLEX? Where do you find the time? 10:21 oh for the love of... I get that my gehennom is popular, but it is NOT a full overhaul! 10:21 why not make a bigroom that offers reasonable structures to hide 10:21 love of... pete? slex? jesus? 10:21 so it's not just "i can survive this" vs. "i need to dig down asap and just ignore this level" 10:21 It's a temporary measure to add some interesting stuff to the mazes before I overhaul the level generation there completely 10:22 aosdict comapred to the other option for gehennom, it IS an overhaul 10:22 Pinkbeast: that is the unfair variant :D also I didn't actually code anything lately, time constraints and my unwillingness to design levels for the new role quests :P 10:22 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 33669 points, T:7001, killed by a sapphire golem 10:22 K2: sure, let's go with "for the love of slex" 10:22 \o/ 10:22 EPI: bigroom floors are undiggable 10:22 haha. 10:23 no soup for you! 10:23 EPI: all dod levels are bigroom 10:23 because, it's a challenge right? 10:23 Reduce maximum line of sight, as a radical idea 10:23 * LarienTelrunya codes a bigroomer mode for slex :D 10:23 (just kidding!) 10:23 there are chess patterns bigrooms which are partly dark 10:23 just another scummy design 10:24 * LarienTelrunya concludes that for stennowork, slex is most probably not the right variant to play ;) 10:25 maybe? idk 10:25 it feels like a totally different game with the pokedex 10:25 my phones beats me at chess on a regular basis 10:25 *phone 10:25 i set stockfish at 50% strength and it still makes me look stupid 10:26 is there a pokedex in unnethack too? because I got it from unnethackplus, but no idea whether regular unnethack ever implemented something similar 10:26 no i mean the pokedex makes slex a very interesting game 10:27 huh, it does? 10:27 all it does is that it allows you to know what monsters are able to do 10:31 LarienTelrunya: no, I never came around to implement that. 10:31 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 558 points, T:1031, killed by a dwarf 10:42 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 10:50 YANI: For the "chess variant" of the big room, make the lit regions radial, not square. How do you light stuff in a square? 10:51 You put several small lights in a square shape 10:52 quadratur des kreises 10:57 aosdict: region() normally creates a rectangular region. 10:57 The chessboard bigroom just uses that. 10:58 just use sporks braziers for lighting up the scene 10:59 Yes, placing light sources would be the obvious way to create round lit areas. 10:59 It would be possible to do it in other ways, but more tedious I think. 11:02 LarienTelrunya, like, i see a new monster, i look at the pokedex and then figure out a strategy 11:03 stennowork: ah I see 11:03 without the pokedex you'd have to source dive or use the wiki, and the latter doesn't have all monsters anyway ;) 11:04 without pokedex it would be unplayable 11:07 :q 11:07 gaaah 11:07 is slex playable with pokedex? 11:17 i think so, yes 11:18 [hdf-us] [fh] amelia (amelie) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the human zombie of Qi, the former Digger, on T:2678 11:23 !who 11:23 PavelB: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] Gaelan [nh362] Bartlem [nh362] Karnac [nh362] Noah [spl] amelie [fh] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:23 boo 11:23 It's kind of playable, if you absolutely don't care what happens to your character. 11:24 jonadab: at least you can start the quest whenever you want and don't have to enter Gehennom to grind alignment! :P 11:24 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:24 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:27 <@Tone> Which variants require grinding alignment? 11:27 nethack fourk, at least with the only role that matters (samurai) 11:27 -!- Gaelan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:27 they gain alignment by killing &-class monsters, which are traditionally found in Gehennom 11:27 <@Tone> Ah 11:28 I wonder if there will ever be a new version of fourk (maybe in 2022?) and whether it will do something very important: adding some ways to actually *gain* alignment ;) 11:31 * LarienTelrunya challenges jonadab to ascend a samurai in his own variant 11:34 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:36 * jonadab contemplates just removing the Samurai role. I mean, their quest is so horrible, nobody cares about their quest artifact, their balance properties are almost identical to other roles, ... what do they add to the game? 11:37 * Pinkbeast used their quest artifact 11:37 jonadab: do you want me to hate fourk? :P 11:37 in fact, I don't think any variant ever removed one of the vanilla roles or races 11:37 LarienTelrunya: I thought that ship had sailed. 11:37 except maybe µhack 11:38 jonadab: I know you probably always think I'm joking when I say that, but currently I consider fourk one of the three best non-slex variants. The other two are dnethack and grunthack. 11:39 Hmm. 11:39 Clearly I need to nerf Samurai some more :-) 11:39 Let's see, I could make Snickersnee a wakizashi... 11:40 make samurai basic skill in all samurai weapons 11:40 No, basic skill in all non-Samurai weapons. 11:40 So they can't use Excalibur and Grayswandir. 11:40 Better yet, restricted. 11:40 long sword == katana yeah? 11:40 In vanilla. 11:41 oh you spearated them in fourk 11:41 And I think still in 4.3.0.4? But not in bleeding-edge. 11:41 separated 11:41 neat 11:41 I don't remember for sure if they're separated in .4 11:41 But they definitely will be in future. 11:41 Advice for how to survive? https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HWqOkLF.png 11:41 can you teleport? 11:41 Gaelan: Can you safely pray? 11:42 probably 11:42 haven't prayed this game 11:42 Ok, you're past turn 300. 11:42 start drinking 11:42 thats what i do 11:42 So prayer will probably A) heal you and B) make the mimic release you. 11:42 yep 11:42 omg a mimic! *gluglugglug* 11:42 do I keep whacking it now? 11:42 And then you can leave the room. 11:43 And come back later when you've gained a couple of levels 11:43 nope, healed but still trapped 11:43 yeah i wouldnt try to kill it yet 11:43 K2: Unidentified potions to hopefully get a positive result or beer to dull the pain of losing your run? 11:43 latter 11:43 Gaelan: Oh, it didn't release you? 11:43 hmm still trapped 11:43 nope 11:43 Hmm. Elbereth? 11:43 try to kill it, hopefully its hp are low now 11:43 My HP is 2 now. 11:44 Yeah, you aren't specced to fight a giant m. 11:44 21 max hp = no fighting giant mimics. 11:44 he prob didnt know it was there til he ran into it 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Gaelan (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 385 points, T:1756, killed by a giant mimic 11:44 rip 11:44 K2: Right, the thing is, he needs to get away from it. 11:45 elven priest 11:45 squishy 11:45 Actually, no, I was an idiot. I saw it in the shop (it was hiding badly), went I can take this on, and shift-F'd its face. 11:45 ah 11:45 hey well no risk no gain 11:45 <@Tone> Nah, definitely should have engraved Elbereth and not tried to kill it, imo 11:45 something like that 11:45 you wernt too far in, no big deal really 11:46 Call it a learning experience. 11:46 Yep 11:46 call it an excuse to make a drink 11:46 Giant mimics are way more than you can handle at that stage of the game. 11:46 !booze Gaelan 11:46 * Beholder delivers Gaelan a pint of the hard stuff, fermented by FCCBot at 24 degrees Celsius. 11:46 <@Tone> If it makes you feel any better, that's a mid-to-late game monster that really shouldn't be spawning that early 11:46 ya know what? I've got no excuse not to actually be productive now 11:46 But they're slow, so you can usually get Elbereth engraved successfully. 11:46 Then wait until their turn comes up, and they see it and flee, releasing you. 11:46 And then *you* flee. 11:47 EPI: bump mimic speed to 24 11:47 ouch 11:47 That would be harsh. 11:47 :) 11:47 yeah that would be overkill 11:47 i think im gunna make a dockerized zapm 11:47 imo the smaller ones should be faster than the bigger ones 11:47 less damage output tho 11:48 it's really annoying to set up outside of building from source, it's not safe to package for multiuser 11:48 hey winny 11:48 <@luxidream> wait! That air elemental is actually a small mimic! 11:48 hey hey 11:48 i've been really down on my nethack game the last few months tbh 11:48 school stuff? 11:49 * Gaelan wonders how hard it would be to rig up dgamelaunch to auth with the user's SSH key 11:49 So it looks like there's a new freenode spam 11:49 sequentially mentioning every user in a channel 11:50 OH NO 11:50 those unidentified scrolls were tp 11:58 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:20 have you been read-iding in a shop? 12:25 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:33 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Cav Hum Fem Law), 511 points, T:902, killed by a fox 12:43 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Cav Hum Fem Law), 815 points, T:1335, killed by a hobgoblin 13:01 PavelB: That's not new, unless they're using a separate line to mention each user, instead of bunching a bunch of them on a single line as usual. 13:01 "new" as in there hasn't been spam in a while and there is now 13:02 Not as in never seen before 13:02 Ah. 13:07 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 483 points, T:459, killed by a gnome 13:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2029 points, T:2182, killed by a werejackal 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:5736 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 7908 points, T:6110, killed by a gnome 13:27 damn i made a mistake 13:27 o no 13:27 !whereis stenno 13:27 PavelB: stenno is not playing. 13:27 brought some headphones but they have a fucking lightning connector 13:27 bought* 13:27 OOF 13:28 why doesn't apple just put usb-c in their handhelds 13:28 why does it have to be some bullshit 13:28 lightning is exclusive for ipad and iphone 13:29 money 13:29 well on the laptops they did it right 13:30 i just have 2 usb-c and one audio jack 13:31 what a fail 13:31 could just blame myself for being inobservant but where's the fun in that 13:32 Apple has a long history of not caring about what would actually be compatible with consumers' other existing things, or provide convenient ways for them to continue doing what they are already in the habit of doing. 13:32 I want to make a joke that "2 usb-c and one audio jack" is all the ports on a macbook but the recent ones don't even have 2 usb-c 13:33 jonadab: well firewire was really really good 13:33 in comparison to usb-1 13:33 stenno: it was _fast_ compared to usb-1. In theory. If you could find any peripherals that supported it. 13:33 i had an external hard drive with firewire 800 13:33 but that was about it iirc 13:34 and that was like 10 years ago 13:34 Oh, there were some. MOstly expensive high-end stuff. 13:34 My sister got an iphone and everyone in my family is mad at her because it's the only lightning device in the house we now need to have chargers lying around for 13:35