00:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 276614 points, T:35506, killed by a death ray 00:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:51566 00:39 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 00:42 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 00:47 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:47 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:29 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of unchanging", on T:26 01:29 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed scroll of charging", on T:30 01:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:30 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "The Master Key of Thievery", on T:34 01:33 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of regeneration", on T:130 01:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:36 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:134 01:43 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 22541 points, T:662, quit, in explore mode 01:44 <@carlarc> oh what the fuck 01:44 <@carlarc> it spams beholder? 01:44 <@carlarc> that's not a good thing 01:44 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:45 But the question is, was the key cursed? 01:45 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 01:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 01:46 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2524 01:47 <@carlarc> lmao that's great 01:47 ^^ 01:50 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 13250 points, T:259, quit, in polyinit mode 01:50 <@carlarc> fucking hell 01:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:31 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 18988 points, T:1708, killed by a Ms. Sipaliwini, the shopkeeper, while stuck in monster form, in polyinit mode 02:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:52 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:34 [hdf-us] [fh] carl (carlarc) (Mon Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:173, exploded by a jackal, while stuck in monster form, in polyinit mode 03:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:03 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5219 04:20 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:6115 04:37 [hdf-us] [gh] carlarc (Sam Hum Mal Law), 212 points, T:463, killed by a gnome's crossbow bolt 04:40 -!- stenno__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:49 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:49 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:49 Hm, I think this is the first time that detect monsters has been useful for me in the early game playing something other than a vegetarian monk 04:51 <@carlarc> wouldn't that increase your hunger anyways 04:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:51 if it's not a wizard. 04:52 <@carlarc> well he said monk 04:53 it's a priest - got it as a starting spell 04:54 ah 05:01 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 05:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] carlarc (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1732 points, T:1807, poisoned by a rotted elf corpse, while sleeping 05:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:39 -!- stenno2 is now known as stenno 06:41 !tell antigulp just found a 'silver iron hook' - probably need to adjust that description. 06:41 No worries, Tangles, I've got this! 06:49 It's silver-plated. 06:49 Like the gold-plated golem. 06:58 ugh 07:01 hothraxxa: that's 3.4.3 behavior 07:02 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:03 hothraxxa: where does the wiki state that? 07:07 hothraxxa: it's especially wrong as cursed lembas is treated as rotten by 3.6 07:17 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 07:35 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:35 that might be the first time I've ever actually died from rotten food 07:35 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 07:37 -!- pellsson has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:49 I've fainted from rotten food while wielding a cockatrice corpse and didn't die... 07:49 I was carrying food that time. just forgot to eat it, because I suck. 07:49 mm 08:02 probably the same leocrotta 08:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:40832 08:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a paper golem, on T:40975 08:20 Tangles: I should probably actually make the object materials patch into a branch directly off vanilla at some point... 08:20 cause otherwise antigulp and K2 have to keep checking xnh for bugs I already fixed 08:26 bhaak: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Comestible#Rotten_food 08:27 @tangles: my only astral splat was from eating a rotten lump of royal jelly. i passed out and pestilence and famine double-teamed me until i was dead. all i could do was watch 08:29 hothraxxa: technically, that's correct ... but look at the linked code in footnote 7 08:29 /* non-rotting non-corpses; unlike lizard corpses, these items will behave as if rotten if they are cursed (fortune cookies handled elsewhere) */ 08:30 sure but my unnethack rotten lembas was uncursed 08:30 that's a 3.6 change. in 3.4.3, they just could be rotten as far as I understand the code there 08:31 unnethack has not yet been upgraded. 08:31 well i shall rephrase my stern letter 08:31 looking forward to it 08:33 it's also possible that unnethack has a slight different behavior than 3.4.3. I fixed wrongly scoped braces there at one point, not sure what the 3.4.3 is exactly. it's a convoluted if statement 08:33 -!- pellsson has joined #hardfought 08:33 all kidding aside, it's fine by me if you have rotten lembas. i was just surprised by it 08:35 IIRC lembas only kept indefinitely if its wrapping was intact, which we can't assume in nethack 08:45 same gnome lord. same wand of sleep 09:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:31 -!- stenno__ has joined #hardfought 09:36 -!- stenno__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:42878 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 199110 points, T:42886, killed by a gremlin, while praying 10:11 <@luxidream> !lastgame arnibald 10:11 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/arnibald/nh361/dumplog/1546643183.nh361.txt 10:12 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:52536 10:18 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 10:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:19 -!- pellsson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:32 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 10:49 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:15 -!- pellsson has joined #hardfought 11:35 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:30953 11:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2896 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:31090 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a jackal corpse on an altar of Ishtar, on T:3761 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:5343 11:55 yay new keyboard 11:56 If God had meant us to type quietly, she would not have invented the Model M. :-) 11:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7331 12:10 this is just a bottom-tier standard keyboard with no fancy media keys, but it's still better than the keyboard I exchanged for it yesterday - that had media keys, 7-colour strobing backlights, and some other cute features but they kind of overlooked the "keyboard" part 12:14 i always switch backlights off 12:14 so needless 12:15 until you have to use the keyboard in a dark room 12:15 thankfully keyboard layout is a thing 12:16 hence sight isn't particuraly necessary 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4112 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) became Ishtar's Envoy of Balance, on T:13701 12:24 hmmm 12:24 rimworld or dwarf fortress~ 12:24 currently moving towards rimworld 12:27 or even factorio..? 12:27 but rimworld looks much more interesting 12:27 rimworld. that name... 12:27 Factorio's quite diverting for a while 12:27 yes, i'm 12 12:28 as far as i understood it's basically a dwarf fortress clone 12:29 stenno: meanwhile, I'm getting back into minecraft 12:29 what modpack? 12:29 i am currently playing enigmatica 2 12:30 (non-expert like the pleb i am) 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:977 12:36 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the ghost of hothraxxa, the former Empiric, on T:9048 12:37 this build i will go the mekanism way with quintupling ore at some point and a reactor too? 12:38 unfortunately no refined storage in here so i have to go oldschool with AE2 12:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:44 stenno: just vanilla for me. there's enough to discover in 1.13 at the moment 12:45 though maybe I picked the wrong time, since it seems like 1.14 will be out in not that long 12:45 oh fair enough 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:32156 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:32237 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23080 13:00 <@carlarc> rimworld is not a dwarf fortress clone rreeeee 13:00 <@carlarc> theyre very different from each othrr 13:01 in which way? 13:02 also speaking of 'reeee', it triggers me that the shameless repost of the swagginzzz YAAP got almost as many upvotes as the original title 13:04 * winny reees internally about mistaking statues for monsters in later nethacks 13:04 maybe i should write a patch 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:23900 13:06 <@carlarc> well its an entirely different game 13:06 <@carlarc> just inspired by dorf 13:06 * Pinkbeast says "Doom clone" just to help 13:06 <@carlarc> differences include it being a lot more streamlined, not ascii, and scifi 13:06 DF isn't ASCII so er 13:07 <@carlarc> bleh 13:07 <@carlarc> you know what i mean 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:24291 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed greased scrolls of charging", on T:24298 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:24301 13:09 <@luxidream> stenno: expecting reddit to be smart? lol 13:11 i guess 13:12 DF isn't ASCII even in the vague way the expression is used of (say) NetHack but also I think it is more significant that the game happens on a grid of one-dorf-size tiles than exactly how those are displayed 13:12 & Rimworld has all kinds of DF-isms like absurdly detailed hit location mechanics 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:25589 13:21 DF uses glyphs that _look like_ characters, but A) they aren't all ASCII characters and also B) they're drawn on a canvas like graphics; you can't run the game in a terminal, because that would be too convenient. 13:23 wait you can't? 13:23 TIL 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Nalzok, on T:27159 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27167 13:25 <@kritixilithos> "they aren't all ASCII characters" not even unicode characters? 13:25 Indeed not, unless Unicode has expanded retroactively to include all DF characters. 13:25 are they even characters? 13:25 well apparently not 13:25 what oh6 said 13:26 at least according to what jonadab said 13:26 I cannot think how one cannot regard them as characters, even if they are characters unique to DF 13:26 I mean, if they're drawn on a canvas they could have per-tile (or whatever you call it) modifications 13:26 yeah its tiles, no characters 13:27 I guess you could still handle that via combining characters, but that's taking us rather further afield from ASCII yet 13:28 DF's character set is approximately codepage 437 but with some changes (like beards) 13:30 @kritixilithos The characters I'm thinking of are things like letters with umlauts and junk, so yes, they'd be in Unicode. 13:30 If DF dispalys anything that's not in Unicode, I'm unaware of it. 13:30 jonadab: Little faces with bears? 13:30 But anyone who calls Unicode "ASCII" must be shot. 13:31 *beards 13:31 Pinkbeast: Don't recall seeing that? 13:31 <@carlarc> i think it's an option 13:31 jonadab: It's... how dorfs appear in full screen, all the time 13:31 Umm, no? 13:31 <@carlarc> to replace the normal happy faces with dwarves 13:31 Dwarfs appear as one of the CP437 chars. 13:32 http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Copper_strike.PNG 13:32 U+263A IIRC. 13:32 Unicode is just a simple super set of ASCII 13:32 Pinkbeast: That does not look like how I remember. 13:32 bhaak: All character sets that aren't EBCDIC are supersets of ASCII, pretty much. 13:33 However, since it's an actual screenshot of DF from the actual DF wiki, it is possibly more reliable than your memory 13:33 I mean, I'm sure there's an exception somewhere, but nobody cares about it. 13:33 Single quote and people care about it enough to make a Debian package 13:33 <@carlarc> i do remember theres both the normal happy face and the dorf face in the screenshot 13:34 Unicode is codepoint-wise a super set of latin1 13:34 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/534077737514565643/download_2.png 13:34 jonadab: well, that's what happens if a standard becomes truly universal 13:34 bhaak: Latin-1 is a superset of ASCII.' 13:34 even a simple 13:34 @carlarc Yes, that's the character I recall seeing used for dwarfs. 13:35 (dwarves?) 13:35 (Does DF take a position on that?) 13:35 dorfs. 13:35 <@carlarc> its an option, like showrace 13:37 Only inasmuch as changing the tileset is an option. In default tilesets, fullscreen has beards, windowed has smiley faces. (_Why_ is a question left to the reader.) 13:37 But in any case, I fail to see what difference it makes whether the glyphs DF displays all look like Unicode characters or not. The list of Unicode characters is so long, nobody knows them all. 13:38 And they aren't *actually* characters, because you can't copy/paste them for example. 13:38 They're just drawn on a canvas. 13:46 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 13:49 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6129 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:28443 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:28444 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided class R, on T:28444 13:52 <@kritixilithos> from the DF site, "Extended ASCII character set rendered in 16 colors [...]" 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:28859 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 42 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:29168 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29573 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29574 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:30152 14:03 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased wand of death named oops", on T:30261 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7276 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:31318 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:31319 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:31333 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:31486 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:31488 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:19274 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:33557 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:33652 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:33837 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:20063 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:33899 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1370342 points, T:33923, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nh361/dumplog/1547397333.nh361.txt 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:8453 14:31 grats @luxidream 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:8702 14:31 <@luxidream> thanks stenno 14:31 <@luxidream> apparently I still remember how to play so this is goo 14:32 <@luxidream> *good 14:32 <@luxidream> decent time too 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 19386 points, T:8715, killed by an owlbear, while fainted from lack of food 14:34 what was the time? 14:34 <@luxidream> 2:34 14:35 woop great! 14:44 <@torgmarket> Sex Dating > http://discord.amazingsexdating.com 14:45 sex dating -> www.foocubi.xxx 14:45 [hdf-us] [dyn] @Mod (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8 points, T:45, killed by a kobold zombie 14:45 <@Micbran> thanks 14:45 <@Audrey 💝> dang it micbran 14:46 <@luxidream> why do they like the nethack channels 14:46 <@mtf> Theyve been hitting everything =/ 14:49 flagging mods with death messages now are we 14:49 <@luxidream> 👀 14:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:06 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 15:09 <+aosdict> Tangles: I should probably actually make the object materials patch into a branch directly off vanilla at some point... <--- please do that 15:09 K2: Message from Tangles at 2019-01-12 19:02 EST: there's some kind of weird darkgray issue with hterm. Anything that is black and inverse (eg: a pet vampire bat with hilite_pet on), appears as a plain black square. This happens with both tty and curses but only in hterm. 15:10 hmm weird 15:12 not just hterm 15:12 I had a similar problem on one of my older devices 15:19 that's been a problem with darkgray and hterm for a while I think 15:22 darkgray is known to not work with all terminals. 15:22 That's why it's an option, and was traditionally off by default. 15:24 It's related to the fact that bright and boldface are conflated. 15:25 Also, making the foreground bold may also have the side effect of making the background bold on some terminals. 15:26 Good modern terminals handle these things reasonably, but lesser terminals don't necessarily. 15:27 IIRC PuTTY's defaults don't do bold-black which is unfortunate given how widespread it is 15:27 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Stu Ven Mal Neu), 4674 points, T:35, quit 15:40 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1651 points, T:1059, killed by a wax golem, while praying 15:48 -!- Elronnd is now known as Mennnnnnnnnnche 15:50 -!- pellsson has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:07 -!- pellsson has joined #hardfought 16:11 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 16:11 [hdf-us] [un] pellsson (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 13115 points, T:4468, killed by a giant zombie 16:12 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: night!] 16:16 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1910 points, T:2097, killed by a Woodland-elf 16:21 -!- [Demo] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:22 -!- [Demo]6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:24 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Jed Red Mal Neu) killed the Kisuke, on T:1879 16:26 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 62 darts on an altar, on T:3409 16:37 <@luxidream> !tell K2 can you give it another go at restoring a dyna game? got unlucky with death charges, even full healing the wizard still crashes the game 16:37 No worries, @luxidream, I've got this! 16:38 <@luxidream> this time I'm getting dungeon collapses as well as segfaults 16:38 <@luxidream> panic occurs when I heal the wizard, segfault otherwise 16:39 ok 16:39 K2: Message from @luxidream at 2019-01-13 16:37 EST: can you give it another go at restoring a dyna game? got unlucky with death charges, even full healing the wizard still crashes the game 16:39 whats your alias name? 16:39 <@luxidream> Skeggjold Joestar 16:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:44 on it 16:46 <@luxidream> ok, ping me on success/failure 16:47 K2: The reason I don't particularly want to make it a branch versus vanilla is desync issues with regular xnethack, and it would not actually progress xnethack at all. 16:48 then why did you mention doing it? 16:48 you tease 16:53 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 16:53 @luxidream give it a try 16:54 <{Demo}> servers went down no idea whats going on 16:54 <{Demo}> does this work 16:54 hi {Demo} 16:54 <@luxidream> failed to load the save, do you wish to delete the file? y/n 16:54 hmm 16:54 one sec 16:55 {Demo} got some upgrades to his client? 16:55 <{Demo}> no this is some random version of it i found on a vps 17:01 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 17:05 @luxidream ok try now 17:06 <@luxidream> unexpected EOF or error in save file 17:06 <@luxidream> delete? y/n 17:06 ugh 17:06 yeah dont delete 17:07 <@luxidream> no that's just the prompt 17:07 <@luxidream> I'll back off then 17:09 ok try again 17:10 oops wait 17:10 forgot one detail 17:10 ok good to go 17:11 <@luxidream> same thing 17:11 fuck 17:11 this is what I am going by - https://github.com/k21971/DynaHack/blob/unnethack/doc/save-recovery.md 17:11 i might have to go farther back 17:12 <@luxidream> all my save files are fucked now 17:12 <@luxidream> none of them load at all 17:12 <@luxidream> okay, they're loading now 17:13 <@luxidream> weird 17:14 <@luxidream> I guess there's no good way to know how far you're going back? 17:14 @luxidream dynahack? 17:14 yeah 17:14 <@luxidream> yea 17:14 dynahack 17:14 ok try again 17:16 <@luxidream> I'm right back to where I was before, 1 turn before panic 17:16 \o/ 17:16 <@luxidream> I attempt to heal the wizard, dungeon collapses 17:16 so it crashed again? or did you just load it 17:17 <@luxidream> it's still crashing, any action besides healing the wizard still causes a segfault 17:17 ok so i have a coredump of the initial crash 17:17 lets rewind a bit father 17:17 but we just successfully rewound a dynahack save 17:17 suck it RNG 17:18 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:19 <@luxidream> okay lmk when 17:19 go for it 17:19 i rewound (what appears to be) 3 turns back 17:20 <@luxidream> went back 2 turns 17:20 ok 17:21 <@luxidream> I still can't escape 17:21 wait 17:21 pause 17:21 <@luxidream> ? 17:21 i wanna see what you're doing 17:21 gah 17:22 <@luxidream> movebubbles const != null 17:22 oh hey 17:22 <@luxidream> what 17:22 game is still there 17:22 hah 17:22 <@luxidream> I just have to reload the game after every turn 17:22 <@luxidream> I suppose this is an improvement 17:22 so it happens when the wiz tries to heal himself? 17:22 <{Demo}> so i thought my raid 0 array finally blew or something 17:22 <{Demo}> but my server just quit being on 17:23 @luxidream did you *just* arrive in the plane of water? 17:23 <@luxidream> no, I've been here for a while 17:23 ok 17:24 you want me to try and rewind a bit farther back? 17:24 <@luxidream> yeah, can you do that 17:24 k save it please but keep dynahack running 17:24 main menu 17:24 <@luxidream> ok 17:24 <@luxidream> done 17:25 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:25 ok thanks. one min 17:29 ok try again 17:29 this is gonna be a few turns back 17:29 hurry up and find portal 17:29 :P 17:30 <@luxidream> I lost the amulet of yendor in the water 17:30 <@luxidream> this won't be fun 17:30 hahah fuk 17:30 but we still win... we can rewind dynahack saves successfully 17:31 just takes a bit more work is all 17:31 <@luxidream> wait there it is! 17:31 \o/ 17:31 wooooo 17:32 only took almost 2 yrs to figure out how to do it right... 17:32 [hdf-us] [dyn] Skeggjold Joestar (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 188142 points, T:23248, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dynahack/dumplog/2019-01-13%2017_32_31%2C%20Skeggjold%20Joestar-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law%2C%20ascended.txt 17:32 <@luxidream> gg ez 17:32 <@luxidream> thanks K2 17:32 no prob 17:32 finally worth something for dynahack issues 17:33 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33 you now have to name your firstborn Skeggjold Joestar 17:33 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 17:34 FIQ did you ever look into the fiqhack crash i sent you via !tell from a few days ago? 17:34 I see demo has graduated from brackets to braces 17:35 <@Tone> grats lux 😄 17:35 <@Tone> The wizard would have grabbed the amulet for you, right? 17:35 <@Tone> or did you lose it afterwards 17:35 <@luxidream> I'm not a joestar in real life K2 :p 17:35 ;) 17:36 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Jed Red Mal Neu), 33045 points, T:6197, killed by a death ray 17:36 <@luxidream> @Tone I was counting on that but I didn't have a way to kill the wizard afterwards that wouldn't crash the game 17:36 i'm glad this happened 17:36 <@Tone> ah, unfortunate :/ 17:36 this is kind of a Big Deal™ 17:37 <@Tone> How did you lose it? 17:37 dynahack recoveries 17:37 <@luxidream> I zapped wand of death while outside of a bubble without realizing it 17:37 <@luxidream> hm, still under 3 hours after the time it took to roll back the game 17:38 <@luxidream> I'm happy with it 17:39 <@luxidream> well, looking forward to junethack where I don't have to cry over ascension run crashes 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 3054 points, T:3722, killed by a wand 17:41 @luxidream obviously the full name of the firstborn would be Skeggjold Joestar Luxidream 17:42 !tell FIQ fiqhack coredump from today - https://termbin.com/9jtt - same player from a few days ago, possibly same issue 17:42 Will do, K2! 17:42 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Mon Kha Mal Neu), 286 points, T:70, killed by a monster (Azmodan) 17:42 Azmodan no wait of course SLEX does 17:43 @luxidream backtrace of your dynahack crash (coredump) - https://termbin.com/jhu2 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:31643 17:49 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Sam Red Mal Law), 276 points, T:554, killed by a monster (Mr. Nidrajsed Nouq, the shopkeeper) 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:33312 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:33313 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 shield of reflection", on T:33320 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:33322 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:33327 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 t-shirt", on T:33328 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:33427 18:05 <@carlarc> !tell AntiGulp i can't seem to get splicehack's curses to have the perm_invent option work 18:05 No worries, @carlarc, I've got this! 18:05 <@carlarc> wait 18:05 <@carlarc> shit 18:05 <@carlarc> oh well 18:06 <@luxidream> @carlarc seems to work for me? 18:06 did you get tripped up by the "it doesn't appear at the start of the game" bug 18:07 <@luxidream> !tell Tangles curses bug I found, when engraving dulls a weapon, it doesn't update in perm_invent 18:07 Tangles shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, @luxidream. 18:08 <@carlarc> what the hell 18:08 <@carlarc> it just suddenly started working for me 18:08 <@carlarc> uh. problem solved i guess 18:09 carlarc> You could even read aosdict's message about it... 18:09 <@carlarc> oh yeah i skimmed over that, sorry 18:09 <@carlarc> that's an odd bug 18:09 <@luxidream> yeah it doesn't appear until the inventory is updated for the first time 18:10 <@luxidream> happens on save and reload too 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1999 points, T:1319, killed by a water moccasin 18:18 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:26 -!- hf_guest_48 has joined #hardfought 18:27 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Val Asg Mal Neu), 1249 points, T:1270, quit 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4506 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5841 18:34 -!- {Demo} has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:38 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 18:41 <{Demo}> my cardboard box fort of a network is caving in on itself and theres only one thing that can fix it 18:42 burning it to the ground and reconfiguring everything? 18:42 <{Demo}> nope, sundrunk netsys administrator man! 18:42 <{Demo}> and moving to the cloud 18:43 <{Demo}> some of the services i care about more like irc 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law), 12319 points, T:10424, poisoned by an orcish arrow 18:47 <@luxidream> rngplz 18:56 <{Demo}> everything is on fire and its snowing 18:56 -!- hf_guest_48 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:57 [hdf-us] [spl] carlarc (Pir Hum Nbn Cha), 2856 points, T:4214, taken down by a Korrupt Kop 18:57 <{Demo}> Korrupted 19:02 -!- [{Demo}] has joined #hardfought 19:02 <[{Demo}]> !ping 19:02 [{Demo}]: Pong! 19:02 <[{Demo}]> exit 19:02 -!- [{Demo}] has quit [Client Quit] 19:02 <{Demo}> lol 19:02 <{Demo}> ok so im gonna move over to azure 19:04 so are we going to see ([{Demo}]) then 19:04 <{Demo}> not yet 19:06 [hdf-us] [spl] carlarc (Rog Gul Nbn Cha), 265 points, T:1025, killed by a carnivorous bag 19:06 <@carlarc> ow 19:12 [hdf-us] [dyn] Jorgen Johansen (Luxidream) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 284 points, T:593, killed by a gnome 19:13 -!- {Demo} has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:15 [hdf-us] [dyn] roblox hacker man (Luxidream) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 36 points, T:117, killed by a newt 19:20 [hdf-us] [dyn] Geiravor Giovanna (Luxidream) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 251 points, T:640, killed by a bolt of cold 19:46 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Val Asg Fem Neu), 15688 points, T:5406, killed by a monster (invisible ultra elemental) 19:48 !tell K2 should be OK now 19:48 FIQ: Message from K2 at 2019-01-13 17:42 EST: fiqhack coredump from today - https://termbin.com/9jtt - same player from a few days ago, possibly same issue 19:48 Will do, FIQ! 19:57 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 19:58 Any chance I could get a password reset? Account is Gaelan, email is gbs@canishe.com 19:59 Pinging K2 and Tangles 19:59 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 20:01 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 20:13 nvm, my password works now. /shrug 20:15 ...but all of the line-drawing characters in my game have become lowercase ASCII letters 20:15 Using a different terminal than usual? 20:15 nope 20:16 Compare the terminal's charset setting with the game's settings. 20:16 That sort of thing happens e.g. if your terminal speaks utf-8 but you tell the game to use IBM Graphics. 20:17 Terminal configured to UTF8. There's a UTF8grpahics option but wiki says it doesn't work well with curses—is that accurate? 20:18 what variant are you playing 20:18 vanilla 3.6.0 20:18 3.6.whatever-hardfought-has* 20:18 .*0*? 20:18 3.6.0 isn't hosted on hardfought 20:18 Oh 20:18 my bad 20:18 Probably .2-dev 20:19 anyway, 362-dev doesn't have UTF8graphics? 20:19 I don't think anyone has added unicode support. 20:19 Is there a UTF8graphics patch for 3.6.x by any chance 20:19 I think NitroHack speaks Unicode. 20:19 And NH4 auto-detects whether your terminal can do UTF-8 and sends that if so. 20:19 My terminal speaks neither DEC nor IBM 20:20 Running xnethack in curses interface since I haven't got a build of 362-hdf, I don't see any UTF8 symset options. 20:20 Well, technically, libuncursed detects utf-8 support in your terminal and sends utf-8. 20:21 Is libuncursed a drop-in for libncurses? 20:21 Almost. 20:21 So do I need to configure my terminal to do something other than utf8? 20:21 NitroHack used ncurses, and libuncursed was designed to require minimal code changes to be used instead, for NH4. 20:22 Gaelan: Only if you want to use graphics options that require that. 20:22 However, I don't know if modern terminals really support any code pages that are ideally suited for any of those deeply antiquated options. 20:22 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha), 101 points, T:193, killed by falling downstairs 20:23 CP437 is probably the closest, gets *most* characters right for IBM Graphics, I think. 20:23 Assuming your terminal speaks CP437. Some do. 20:24 I'm surprised no one's tried writing unicode for 3.6.x yet 20:24 I'm sure I had line drawing chars working fairly recently though. Don't *think* I changed anything 20:24 (I'm using macOS Terminal.app) 20:25 Is it possible you were playing a different version/variant? 20:25 Or on a different server with different options? 20:25 Unless hdf changed something this week 20:25 Hmm, nothing that should matter for this discussion. 20:29 * Gaelan is starting to think his memory is just faulty 20:31 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Ana Asg Mal Neu), 4382 points, T:3378, killed by a monster (hobbit slingerer), while panic digging 20:32 Nope, my ttyrec from the 10th shows working line drawing 20:52 Yeah, SOMEHOW I was able to get hdf to give me Unicode line drawing on Thursday 20:52 but not anymore 20:53 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Mon Wra Mal Neu) killed the Akane Mary-Sue, on T:2248 20:54 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Mon Wra Mal Neu) killed Thilo, on T:2404 21:03 No idea what I did, but it's working again 21:04 PavelB: libuncursed is one of those ais523 projects that will probably never get done 21:04 like nethack4 4.3 or whatever its next version is 21:05 How hard is adding symsets anyway 21:05 Is the reason we don't have UTF8 Graphics because of multibyte characters? 21:05 I don't think multibyte is the problem, I think double-wide characters are the problem. 21:08 FIQhack updated (all servers) 21:08 K2: Message from FIQ at 2019-01-13 19:48 EST: should be OK now 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Arc Hum Fem Law), 2330 points, T:9476, killed by a paper golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:22 [hdf-us] [fh] amelia (amelie) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the archeologist of Qi, the former Digger, on T:2560 21:26 aosdict: You can just design the set to not use any double-wide characters. 21:26 But I suspect multi-byte characters would not work with the existing 3.x code. 21:31 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 21:49 Still, we did have UTF8graphics in 343-nao, didn't we? 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 408 points, T:988, killed by a sewer rat 22:03 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Mon Wra Mal Neu), 23305 points, T:5201, killed by a monster (Brightar) 22:11 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Bar Asg Mal Neu), 609 points, T:1504, killed by a monster (killer kop), while praying unsuccessfully 22:12 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Val Hum Fem Law), 9430 points, T:5025, killed by a soldier ant, while fainted from lack of food 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:16030 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:16095 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:18292 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof bag of holding", on T:19831 22:33 [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (War Asg Mal Neu), 4564 points, T:2321, killed by a monster (burrower gnome), while hiding from thunderstorm 22:36 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21283 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6334 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] RedArrow (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1725 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 370 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:53896 22:42 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:25029 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:29879 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law), 6284 points, T:7568, killed by a mumak 23:00 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Cav Hum Fem Law), 4241 points, T:3377, killed by a watch captain 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 360 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:55069 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased wand of polymorph", on T:30534 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:30803 23:12 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12 -!- phinxy has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:13 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 23:14 <{Demo}> !ping 23:14 {Demo}: Pong! 23:14 <{Demo}> this should be more permanent 23:15 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:31866 23:16 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:55706 23:17 -!- {Demo}1 has joined #hardfought 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:32432 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:32561 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:33249 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:33697 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:37099 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37105 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:38490 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:38491 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:38551 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:38553 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:38806 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided gremlin, on T:40102 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40122 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:40124 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:40420 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41767 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41778