00:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 30388 points, T:12175, killed by a fire ant 00:05 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:13 -!- Disruptor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:13831 00:17 -!- Disruptor has joined #hardfought 00:22 ais523: making some wiki updates to the trap article and am finding out about rndtrap... do you have any idea why there are two pieces of logic for choosing a random trap? (the other is mktrap) ← no, at a guess someone who didn't know about one wrote the other 00:30 aaand bohsplosion 00:34 can't even really call that a typo, more like a complete and utter brain fart 00:37 -!- Disruptor has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:15798 01:00 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:10 -!- Disruptor has joined #hardfought 01:32 -!- Disruptor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 352 points, T:767, killed by a fox 01:57 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 316 points, T:629, killed by a hill orc called Unoghai-u of Ogunubane 02:58 ugh 02:58 typo 03:06 -!- UsagiMero has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:47 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3033 points, T:3008, killed by something while blind 04:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 8 points, T:127, killed by a goblin 04:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 442 points, T:1434, killed by a little dog 04:20 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 04:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 7018 points, T:3685, killed by a lynx 05:42 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:05 <@carlarc> what are the chances you'll actually even get +5 armor 06:05 <@carlarc> like, real tiny right 06:09 Wishing for +5 maximises the expected eventual enchantment (if you will not Drain Life) at a significant cost in scroll consumption. 06:10 ... however, it's a tiny increase in eventual expected enchantment 06:10 The odds are 1/5 so I wouldn't call them really tiny 06:30 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:38 @carlarc speed boots came +5, HoB +0. I'd have preferred the other way around 06:39 but I got the HoB to +5 with 2 scrolls anyway. lotg. 06:56 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24839 07:09 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed master key of thievery", on T:26216 07:52 Slash'EM updated (all servers) 07:53 ^ more of the bugfixes 07:54 ^^ thanks Tangles 07:55 there will be more 07:58 yup 07:59 even more 07:59 and then some 07:59 so bhaak your 5.3.2 release party last night was nuts 07:59 glad you liked it 07:59 i didnt know you could do that with a cow 07:59 heh 07:59 bad hang over? or could you sleep well on the plane back? 08:00 sleep? whats that? 08:00 i'm surprised no one went to jail 08:00 so awesome 08:00 do another release! 08:00 so, you didn't what the special ingredience in Swiss chocolate was up until now 08:00 ;) 08:02 on a serious note - i'm running on one hour sleep 08:02 picked up the bug my wife/kid had, its kicking my ass 08:02 bleh 08:03 we were lucky not to get anything this christmas. my sister and her daugther had a bug. seems to have passed over the kids only slightly and not at all to us 08:04 luckily for us, whatever it was we all got waited until after xmas 08:04 and for me after new years too 08:05 i havent had my flu shot yet this season... bah 08:44 that one took 4 scrolls to get to +4 :/ 08:44 It reads: "You're killing me!" 08:45 Tangles: If you don't have an semi-infinite supply of scrolls +5 is an odd choice. 08:48 Pinkbeast: you are correct. +4 would of course be an even choice. 08:49 your logic is flawless ;) 08:49 Er haha but +5 is still fairly suboptimal 08:53 I don't see why. 20% of the time you get +5. If you wish for +3 or whatever, you get +5 0% of the time. 08:53 and enchanting from +0 (which you get most of the time regardless) is hardly more effort than enchanting from +3. 08:54 Enchanting from +0 to +3 takes 1-3 scrolls. 08:54 there's very rarely a shortage of scrolls by the time you get a wish. 08:55 unless you're lucky enough to get a really early one, in which case a +0 SDSM (or whatever) will do well enough for the time being anyway. 09:53 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:47 Tangles: Will not drain life: wish for +5, expected average eventual enchantment is 4.556, using 1.90 scrolls. Wished +2, +4.489, using 1.54 scrolls. 10:47 Will drain life: wish for +5, expected scroll use 2.79; wish for +2, expected scroll use 2.56. 10:48 Combine that with the expected immediate gain being worse with a wish for +5, and hence unless you have a really huge supply of scrolls (but no drain life) it's hard to see why one would wish for +5. 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:22848 11:22 what the 11:22 dammit 11:22 oh well 11:25 three of the five stages of grief right there 11:29 at least that explained why it was taking so long to clear ludios 11:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 10127 points, T:4965, killed by a death ray 11:52 aosdict, hah 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:23798 11:55 -!- nooodle has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 It must weigh a ton! 12:00 trying to pick up a throne 12:03 <@luxidream> Will Luxor ever ascend slashem? 12:05 <@luxidream> !asc luxor 12:05 @luxidream: [hdf-us] luxor has not ascended in 5020 games. | [hdf-eu] luxor has not ascended in 597 games. 12:21 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law), 680 points, T:1465, killed by a pony 12:38 <@riker> @Demo uh leviathan engulfed me and I think the game panicked 12:38 <@riker> I have absolutley no clue what happened but the dungeon collapsed 12:39 <@riker> I did hit and kick (GM two-handed martial arts hlf monk) it while inside, and it crashed the next turn (when leviathan's turn procced) 12:42 <@Demo> yoinks 12:42 <@Demo> can have backtrace? 12:46 <[Demo]6> wait did it say the dungeon collapsed? 12:47 <[Demo]6> is that recoverable? 12:51 <@riker> no it is not 12:51 <@riker> well I haven't tried actually 12:51 <@riker> I was hoping some of the save might be manually but I odn't think it is 12:52 <@riker> did you fix the angsty recover bug 12:53 <[Demo]6> angsty recover bug? 12:53 <@riker> where the thingy just nukes your save when you try to recover 12:54 <@riker> amy fixed it a while back I don't know if you patched it and I'd rather not lose my save 12:54 <[Demo]6> so here's the thing 12:54 <[Demo]6> that is related to the extended dungeon patch 12:54 <[Demo]6> which ndnh took separately from dnh 12:55 <[Demo]6> so it's been fixed for a long time 12:55 <@riker> ah ok good 12:56 <@riker> yeah it recovers fine I'll see if I can repro once i back up my saev 12:56 <@riker> oh what 12:56 <@riker> @Demo it recovered to the level above leviathan 12:56 <@riker> so now I have beezelbub 12:56 <[Demo]6> yeah recovery does that sometimes 12:57 -!- Disruptor has joined #hardfought 12:57 <[Demo]6> usually has to do with if you were changing levels when it crashed 12:57 <@Demo> I think 12:57 <@riker> damn ok 12:57 <@riker> I was on the upstair when I crashed 12:57 <[Demo]6> that could do it 12:58 <@riker> I wasn't changing levels though, maybe it spazzed bc I was inside the monster and on the upstair 12:58 which game is this? 12:58 <[Demo]6> yeah maybe leviathan tried to change levels 12:58 <@riker> actually I might have even changed levels if leviathan went upstairs with me 12:58 <[Demo]6> notdnethack 12:58 ah k 12:58 <@riker> this is NotDNetHack, a variant of DNetHack 12:58 <@riker> it's NotStupidAtAll 12:58 <@riker> also demo how exactly do you use mystic styles 12:59 <@riker> since I haven't even used them once and I've been doing just fine 12:59 <[Demo]6> #style 12:59 <@riker> yeah but like how do you use them do you just activate and it applies from then on? 12:59 <[Demo]6> they aren't compatible with metal gloves 12:59 <[Demo]6> yeah 12:59 <[Demo]6> they are all passive 12:59 <@riker> oh gay premium heart blocks them 12:59 <[Demo]6> yeah 12:59 <@riker> no thanks 12:59 <[Demo]6> I might change that 13:00 <@riker> you do realize that means nobody is going to use them 13:00 <[Demo]6> early game 13:00 <@riker> I mean I'm still artiwishless and i sacced for them 13:00 <[Demo]6> yeah I think I'm gonna ammend it so they fail half the time with metal gloves 13:00 <@riker> yeah that seems fair 13:01 <@riker> probably should make them fail less with higher wis/xp lvl 13:01 <@riker> i.e. at 25 wis & lvl 30 they fail 1/3 of the time with metal, but at 25 and 15 they fail 2/3 or something 13:01 <@riker> similar to the way body armor is a big no early-game but doable late 13:01 <[Demo]6> maybe 13:02 <[Demo]6> might just remove the restriction outright at a level 13:02 <[Demo]6> cause why not 13:02 <[Demo]6> maybe at student of metal 13:02 <@riker> yeah I like that idea 13:03 <@riker> you could always make half dragons have a natural penalty due to claws not being as dexterous 13:03 <[Demo]6> it's not about dexterity 13:03 <[Demo]6> it's about magical mystical forces 13:04 <@riker> fine their chakras aren't aligned enough 13:04 <@riker> and I meant like they can't activate the mystical forces due to them not being flexible not they can't harness 13:04 <[Demo]6> nah dragons got their chakras hella aligned and shit 13:05 <[Demo]6> dragons are magical as shit 13:06 -!- Disruptor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:06 <[Demo]6> what's the sleep bounce crash thing I have in my notes? 13:06 <@riker> if you get hit by any dragonbreath while having non-dragonbreath reflection (not none, only lesser) it instantly segfaults 13:07 <@riker> you can easily do it as hlf dragon, just wallbounce the breath into yourself (which is how i found it) 13:07 <[Demo]6> epic 13:07 <[Demo]6> thanks 13:07 <@riker> but it works with any dragonbreath (I don't think disint though) so D are walking segfault machines now and it's annoying 13:08 <[Demo]6> I guess I'll debug it on my phone 13:09 <@riker> do you want me to try to lldb it 13:10 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:10 back in schipol 13:11 now waiting for the flight to berlin and then gotta take a train to my hometown which means i am back at like 2:30 am 13:11 ok. found my own bones and here's a skull of hothraxxa. wtf is that? 13:11 hothraxxa, i think just a memento 13:11 !wheris hothraxxa 13:11 !whereis hothraxxa 13:11 PavelB: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [sp]: (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) T:8576 The Dungeons of Doom level: 9 13:11 <[Demo]6> nah I did it 13:11 hm 13:12 thanks muad 13:12 <[Demo]6> parentheses issue 13:12 <[Demo]6> if u don't want it to crash, put on a shield 13:12 <@riker> gay but ok 13:13 What are you, riker, five years old? 13:14 nah, 12 13:15 <@riker> > Orcus rises up, through the ceiling! 13:15 <@riker> that's demogorgon's lair, orcus gets to live today 13:15 <[Demo]6> bug might be present in dnh if Chris botched his parentheses too which might be the case cause I could have copied and pasted from it 13:15 <@carlarc> why are pets so dumb 13:15 <@carlarc> jesus actual fuck 13:16 <@carlarc> i just waited in a dust elbereth square for like, 300 turns waiting for a mimic to flee or for me to heal up and get lucky not missing it on dlvl2 13:16 <@carlarc> and my dumbass pony was right behind the mimic, picking up and dropping a weapon 13:16 <@carlarc> instead of you know, attacking it 13:16 <[Demo]6> Riker are you playing locally or on esm? 13:17 <@riker> demo: already tested, doesn't seem to exist there 13:17 <@Tone> It had low health 13:17 <@riker> locally demo 13:17 <@carlarc> ah 13:17 <@carlarc> didn't think of that 13:17 <@riker> also this player monster gen'd with "oLS I believe but didn't wear it? another bug? or not 13:17 Pets won't attack creatures they expect to be able to oneshot them in retaliation (their assessment of this is imperfect) 13:17 pets won't attack 2 level above their own either 13:17 <[Demo]6> could be? idk? probably present in dnh? 13:18 <@riker> yeah I'm just not familiar with the way player monsters work 13:18 <@riker> on the bright side I believe both vorpal and stormbringer have been generated in this game already, which is helpful 13:20 <[Demo]6> ndnh makes some changes to stormbringer, I have no idea what 13:22 <@riker> not in the changelog 13:22 <[Demo]6> they were minor 13:22 <[Demo]6> and most of them from upstream 13:24 <[Demo]6> I'm actually surprised by how much shit manages to crash 13:31 <@riker> hey demo did you change asmo's bribe amount 13:31 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2882 points, T:3006, killed by a kitten 13:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:59 <@riker> goddamnit @Demo your game just segfaulted and didn't recover and it deleted my save file :( 14:03 <@riker> the sequence of events: invocation, wiz spawned in moloch's lair level, he fetched amulet, escaped upstairs, and ended up standing the fire trap to the right of the downstair on the VS level 14:04 <@riker> he dropped a !oFH, some scroll I think, and the (real?) amulet of yendor when I killed him in one hit 14:04 <@riker> I stepped onto the trap and tried to pick up the amulet and at that point the game crashed 14:04 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:04 <@riker> correction: I picked it up and saved and the save thing failed 14:04 <@riker> when I tried to save again it crashed 14:11 <@Demo> it crashed on saving? 14:11 <@Demo> that is VERY bad 14:11 <@riker> yea I"m really angry rn 14:14 @luxidream I made an edit to the wiki "hit and run" page and left a todo; if you wouldn't mind checking that out, I'd like your advice, I think you know more about the 3.6.1 speed system than me 14:16 <@Demo> wait so it crashed when you stepped onto the square or it crashed when you stepped on the square and picked up stuff and then saved? 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 201 points, T:972, killed by a falling rock 14:18 <@luxidream> ok I will look at it 14:23 <@riker> demo: when I saved, sorry for confusion 14:23 <@riker> if failed a save first I think but maybe not 14:24 -!- LarienTelrunya is now known as TestAmy 14:26 -!- TestAmy is now known as LarienTelrunya 14:26 <[Demo]6> no cigar with a basic attempt at replicating 14:26 <[Demo]6> had you messed with demogorgon at all? 14:26 <[Demo]6> what race were you? 14:27 <[Demo]6> oh wait you had demos lair... 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5148 14:33 <@luxidream> aosdict: there's some outdated information about the 3.6.0 speed system 14:33 <@luxidream> on the speed page 14:33 <@luxidream> we can just replace that 14:35 <@luxidream> also, I don't think kiting is productive unless you have a polearm, even if you are riding or very fast 14:35 <@luxidream> you use your base speed when attacking on a mount, not the mount's speed 14:36 <@luxidream> so yeah, you mind if I move it there? 14:36 <[Demo]6> hmm cant get leviathan bug to repro either 14:36 <[Demo]6> found the detect treasure bug 14:40 <@luxidream> aosdict: also, about the shop prices being visible for all items: it only happens if you use D to view items to drop 14:40 <@riker> demo: I was half-dragon male mystic, level 30 with 25 25 20 25 25 19 stats, GM robe/tiedye/prem heart , speed boots, helm of brilliance 14:40 <@riker> nothing else important I don't think 14:41 <@riker> I never woke demo up though 14:41 <@ChristmIceBox> what the shit is this awesome view when opening my sack in a general store 14:41 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/530833138105188379/unknown.png 14:41 <[Demo]6> but he was generated 14:41 <[Demo]6> which changes how the vibrating square level works 14:41 <@riker> oh does it 14:41 <[Demo]6> did anything of moloch end up on that level? 14:42 <@luxidream> @ChristmIceBox looks like a bug 14:42 <@luxidream> but you can see your item prices when you pull them up in a menu? 14:42 <@riker> I have no clue I never messed with demo (I just xorn'd right through the bottom walls) and I didn't explore the VS level at all 14:42 <@riker> just used the middle temple thingy? straight down from stair 14:42 <@luxidream> it's actually pretty cool I think because I can't be arsed to drop everything 14:42 <@ChristmIceBox> yeah looks like it's not that awesome because i dont know what those prices are 14:43 <@ChristmIceBox> it looks like it's my buy price 14:43 <@ChristmIceBox> would be really cool if it was the sell price, haha 14:43 <@luxidream> yeah that's true, would help me sort through garbage quickly if I were to speedrun vanilla again soon though 14:44 <@ChristmIceBox> still 362, wonder why i haven't noticed it before 14:44 <@riker> speedrun dnh, I'm interested to see the minimum time taken 14:44 <@luxidream> it's new 14:44 <@luxidream> riker: I haven't even beaten dnh normally yet lol 14:44 <@riker> I mean just go orc barb it's not that hard when your character is op 14:44 <@luxidream> you don't have to kill all the demon lords do you? 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:28623 14:46 <@riker> luxi: nope 14:47 <@ChristmIceBox> who should i ping to ask about this view? aosdict? 14:47 <@riker> it's hard to get 'all' in a game even but i'ts needed to kill all the ones you find either 14:47 <@riker> you can skip a bunch 14:47 <[Demo]6> you can skip most lol 14:47 <@riker> lamashtu is probably the hardest-to-avoid avoidable one 14:48 <[Demo]6> that bitch just randomly wake up 14:48 <[Demo]6> then kills u 14:48 <@luxidream> wonder which 3 keys are fastest 14:48 <@luxidream> obviously first chaos 14:50 <[Demo]6> chaos got changed 14:50 <[Demo]6> now they have hella health 14:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:50 <[Demo]6> which i found unfortunately makes a difference 14:50 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:50 <@luxidream> no, first key of chaos 14:50 <[Demo]6> cause now they have enough turns to get off their special spells 14:50 <[Demo]6> and those hurt 14:50 <@luxidream> I know chaos has like 2000 health lol 14:50 <[Demo]6> oh yeah that one is easy enough 14:50 <[Demo]6> no not chaos, his pets 14:51 <@luxidream> they get HP now? that's annoying 14:51 <[Demo]6> yeah now they can get off their special spells 14:51 <@ChristmIceBox> thanks for the excalibur kit, an excalikit, if you will 14:51 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/530835666972442625/unknown.png 14:51 <[Demo]6> which will fuck you up if ill prepared 14:51 <@luxidream> ok, maybe first and second key of law will be easy 14:52 <[Demo]6> axus is a bitch 14:52 <@luxidream> you can death ray him? seems ok 14:53 <@luxidream> if it's worse than it sounds maybe I should just go to earth temple then 14:53 <[Demo]6> you cant get a shot in on him 14:53 <[Demo]6> unless you step into his range 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 121 points, T:239, killed by a dwarf 14:54 <@luxidream> oh yeah, last time I was there, I was law, so everyone was chill 14:55 <@riker> law needs drain, reflection, oona's resist, chaos needs teleportation and all elemental resists, neu needs flying and good DPS 14:56 <@riker> chaos is definitely the easiest though still (for the 3 key assuming non-law ) 14:56 <@luxidream> well I just need 3 keys, from anywhere 14:56 <@luxidream> if I'm orc bar I already have one 14:57 <@riker> why? chaos 1? 14:57 <@riker> you need to gen chaos first to name that one 14:57 <@luxidream> oh didn't know that 14:57 <@riker> yep 14:58 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 14:58 <@luxidream> so I have to haul my ass down there anyway 14:58 <@riker> yeah but it's free with chaos 3 14:58 <@riker> and chaos 2 is on the ground no boss needed (thouhg you still need to fight the 4 pets) 14:58 <@riker> only time I've ever had trouble with the pets is that Tiamat always casts sickness first 14:59 <@luxidream> then I back out and grab law 2 or something? fighting chaos took about a year 14:59 <@riker> an ideal speedrun would be neu 1, chaos 1-2 14:59 <@riker> but neu1 is 100% rng 14:59 <@riker> neu 2 might be quick, good bit of travel tho 15:00 <@luxidream> I guess alhoons aren't comparatively as bad, although map amnesia could be a problem 15:00 <@luxidream> if I don't have a ranged attack 15:00 <@luxidream> does arsenal do anything special or is he just too hard to get to 15:01 <@riker> they die quick enough 15:01 <@riker> I mean he launches iron balls but it's mostly just a slog 15:01 <@riker> if you wake up the soldiers RIP your speedrun 15:04 <@luxidream> actually, I do need a ranged attack, because my armor will be trash, and elder priest will probably just murder me lol 15:04 <@riker> false elder priest has like 50 hp 15:04 <@riker> I mean you can always just wizard gate 15:04 <@riker> in dnh you can still use the wiz to grab the amulet 15:04 <@luxidream> oh, nice, the wizard can actually kill him? 15:04 <@riker> I believe so yes 15:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 15:05 <@luxidream> in vanilla they just have a long pointless fight 15:05 <@riker> I've never actually seen it I"ve just seen the wizard warp and hten come back with it 15:05 <@riker> yea I think techinically that still exists actually, I think it has something to do with the name 15:05 <@Tone> Had that inventory price bug been reported yet? 15:05 <@riker> i.e. the wiz is worthless vs the High Priest of Moloch but not the Elder Priest :p 15:05 <@Tone> Has* 15:08 <@luxidream> TIL he has paralysis gaze, don't play dnh unspoiled kids 15:08 <@riker> @luxidream neu is flat out impossible in dnh, it's wayy too many levels to search through 15:08 <@luxidream> neu quest? or do you mean killing ccenter 15:08 <@riker> law is feasible for axus only but his level itself is a pain (if you're law it takes forever to walk throuhg the peaceful, otherwise passive para is annoying) 15:08 <@riker> no neu quest in general 15:08 <@riker> center is just RNG he doesnt' count 15:09 <@riker> orc binder w/ eden, dant and atma weapon should kill chaos quick anyway 15:10 <@riker> if you scum for a magic lamp in minetoen or similar 15:10 <@luxidream> how do I bind eden in a speedrun 15:10 <@luxidream> I don't have lost names 15:11 <@riker> > orc binder 15:11 <@riker> it's like an orc barb but more RNG 15:11 <@luxidream> oh 15:11 <@Tone> There was a series of commits last week that may be related, like this one https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/3aca92215c66e8fa6b1034e01830d19bf491f5ff 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 126601 points, T:20896, killed by a winged gargoyle, while paralyzed by a monster 15:11 <@Tone> And this https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/cae50298b653b45fe8137caf5cd66ba172caf6a1 15:13 <@riker> luxi orc binder is probably better than barb, easier access to dant for a speedrun (no neu at all) and you can still use an OP weapon (atma) easily 15:13 <@luxidream> yeah, probably tone? so an unintended consequence 15:14 <@riker> eden is fountain and dant is throne, both relatively easy to get 15:14 <@luxidream> wonder what the timeout for tenebrous's banishment ability is 15:14 <@riker> there's a throne in vlad's if you hit that quick and otherwise there's one on the neu branch level in the main dungeon I think 15:14 <@riker> 15 turns 15:14 <@riker> all powers are 15 turns 15:15 <@luxidream> what? so I don't have to fight anyone? 15:15 <@luxidream> insane 15:16 <@riker> well 15 turns is actually somewhat long considering tha'ts full rounds, not actions, so it's a monster turn too 15:16 <@riker> and chris likes hordes in gehennom 15:17 <@luxidream> looks like I can just send uniques I don't want to fight to another level though 15:17 <@riker> oh yeah you can 15:17 <@riker> lol I forgot about that 15:18 <@riker> andre, eden, dant, and tenebrous are probably the top 4 15:19 <@riker> andre gives tele, eden gives branchport, dant gives warping and broadsword 15:19 <@riker> all are pretty easy to bind, and you can learn cosmos from the black crystal in chaos 15:21 <@luxidream> cosmos? 15:21 <@luxidream> oh, to use atma 15:21 <@riker> alignment quest spirit, summons unique dead as a pet for 5 turns 15:21 <@riker> medusa is a valid choice. 15:21 <@luxidream> huh, interesting 15:22 <@luxidream> nvm, atma is unaligned, not sure what I was thinking 15:22 <@riker> atma is 100% usable 15:22 <@riker> what were you thinking regarding it 15:23 [hdf-us] [4k] tomas (zor) (Kni Hum Mal Law) received advice from The Oracle, on T:6000 15:23 <@luxidream> I thought it was lawful 15:24 <@riker> ah 15:32 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:35 [hdf-us] [4k] tomas (zor) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 20034 points, T:6816, killed by the wrath of Lugh 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:30690 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:30695 15:41 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Mer Fem Law), 311 points, T:398, eliminated by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:52 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "holy historic greased blank +5 gray dragon scale mail named prop. of tony stark", on T:10200 15:54 @IceBox I sent the devteam a report about the shop buy price thing 15:57 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 168 points, T:453, offed by a guard 15:58 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 92108 points, T:17187, killed by an air elemental 16:10 <@ChristmIceBox> cool thanks aosdict 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30807 16:30 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 16:47 [hdf-us] [un] Som (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 165 points, T:310, killed by a boulder 16:49 I would prefer it if the shop prices didn't show for items on the free square just inside the door 16:49 that's very confusing, it looks like you have to pay 17:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Hlf Fem Law), 390 points, T:467, killed by a gnome 17:15 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 26677 points, T:5832, killed by a leocrotta 17:21 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:13547 17:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:32786 18:02 Fudd removes a little red hat and puts on a tinfoil hat. 18:02 trump supporter 18:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 282 points, T:838, killed by a small mimic 18:12 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 18:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 18:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 18:13 hothraxxa: haha 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33187 18:15 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:24 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:15028 18:25 <@carlarc> that 'summon a dead unique' thing sounds really cool 18:25 <@carlarc> what's it from 18:26 K2: If "skull" is an item added by sporkhack, it should be on the wiki! 18:28 ok... have at it 18:30 someone who actualy knows what it does, they should have at it 18:30 spork is full of surprises. apparently there is a 50z potion that if you dip your unihorn in it it gets covered in grease 18:30 actually 18:30 i have a staff of divination and gloves of fortune from my old bones 18:31 gloves of fortune? 18:31 that's what id says 18:31 not on wiki at all. what the heck, spork-era wiki maintainers? 18:31 they give the wearer extra luck 18:31 i assumed as much 18:32 begs the question... what happens if you masturbate while wearing them? 18:32 hmmm 18:32 oh, I thought they were this, which is a YANI now I guess: gloves of fortune that cause monsters to death-drop d10 gold pieces that didn't exist before they died. 18:32 hothraxxa can i borrow your gloves real quick? 10 min tops 18:32 and maybe a gem from time to time 18:33 this game has given me so far four bags of holding and four magic lamps 18:33 i havne't been below dlvl 9 18:33 well not counting the mines 18:33 i like how both of you just completely dodged my comment 18:33 you make me sad 18:34 sorry i left mine in one of these bohs, not sure which one. try these gloves of fumbling 18:35 hahahah 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:34413 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34415 18:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 672 points, T:806, killed by a dwarf 19:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 268 points, T:1370, killed by a hobbit 19:08 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 721 points, T:1202, killed by a dwarf 19:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7762 points, T:3757, killed by a leocrotta 19:37 <@riker> @carlarc it's a specific spirit power from DNethack, there's a role that can gain special abilities from binding spirits 19:38 <@carlarc> oh right 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 240 points, T:614, killed by a gnome lord 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] Grandolar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 521 points, T:1406, killed by a dwarf 19:45 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 19:46 -!- Luxidream has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 19:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 38918 points, T:16403, killed by a succubus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 8675 points, T:4917, killed by an ettin mummy 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:2071 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:37918 20:09 -!- Luxidream has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 20:10 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed historic empty greased fixed +5 helm of brilliance named prop. of brainiac", on T:15702 20:11 -!- Luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 20:14 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:14 -!- Luxidream2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 20:21 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed historic magic marker named herblock", on T:15804 20:22 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:36 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) had athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:16212 20:36 sheesh. all i wanted was a four leaf clover 20:36 first sacrifice. i thought spork made it hard to get artifacts 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] Grandolar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 555 points, T:1985, killed by a crossbow bolt 20:52 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) had a sling bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:16586 20:52 *facepalm* 20:53 Just an ordinary sling? 20:55 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 20:55 it'll be like +3 or +5 20:55 whoopie! 21:02 NH 1.3 edit options available when :3 :3 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Grandolar (Wiz Mal), 433 points, T:794, dart 21:15 <[Demo]6> DART 21:15 darn* 21:19 <@carlarc> is there a way to create walls? 21:20 <@carlarc> or can you only make doors in doorways 21:29 AFAIK you can never make walls 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:39368 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Grandolar (Wiz Mal), 84 points, T:58, gnome 21:42 carlarc your best bet is to roll a boulder to where you want a solid barrier. Giants may pick them up and huck them at you, though. 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Grandolar (Wiz Mal), 177 points, T:206, hobgoblin 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:39613 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Grandolar (Wiz Mal), 104 points, T:182, bolt of fire 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Grandolar (Wiz Mal), 58 points, T:111, hobgoblin 21:58 -!- UsagiMero has joined #hardfought 22:01 carlarc: we're not paying for it either 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Grandolar (Wiz Mal), 90 points, T:148, imp 22:13 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 22:17 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 46000 points, T:11991, choked on a tin of spinach 22:30 The cheap plastic imitation of the Amulet of Yendor cannot be confined in such trappings. 22:31 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 190 points, T:419, killed by a gas spore's explosion 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Grandolar (Wiz Mal), 567 points, T:1359, orc 22:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 406 points, T:1101, killed by a kitten 23:04 -!- moony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 986 points, T:1294, killed by a giant ant 23:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 5075 points, T:2721, killed by a soldier ant 23:40 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2750 points, T:2691, killed by a lynx 23:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2155 points, T:2130, killed by a gold golem 23:55 -!- Disruptor has joined #hardfought