00:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 21237 points, T:7843, killed by a fire elemental 00:11 * aosdict consults local xnh copy 00:12 * aosdict realizes that xnh copy is probably not reliably the same, goes to github instead 00:13 actually I don't see branch coloring code there 00:13 not in the NHTangles/nethack hardfought branch, at least 00:13 <@luxidream> it's in tnnt 00:13 bouquet: wait, are you using NHTangles/nethack or NHTangles/nethack36? 00:14 nethack36 has branch coloring, nethack doesn't. 00:15 Tangles: if the "nethack" repo is meant to provide the hdf source for 343, can it be renamed to "nethack34" or something? 00:15 to avoid confusion 00:28 <@carlarc> evil bones idea: level up a LOT of grid bug pets via wraith corpses and leave them around, since the shock attack can break rings and wands at high levels 00:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:44 i don't think grid bugs eat 00:45 not sure if you could create high level grid bugs in other ways 00:51 <@carlarc> hmm 00:51 <@carlarc> yeah they're inediate 00:52 <@luxidream> easy and uncreative way of annoying people: dig a pit on every square 00:58 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 01:00 <@carlarc> that's not creatie 01:00 <@carlarc> you gotta be both for the double combo 01:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:15 <@luxidream> extremely annoying but nonfatal: revgeno spotted jellies onto every square 01:24 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 01:24 <@luxidream> !tell LarienTelrunya you should give stand users attire charm, what's a jojo character that can't pose?? 01:24 I'm on it, @luxidream. 01:31 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:34 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:35 <@carlarc> oh that reminds me 01:35 <@carlarc> is there a way to make slashem extended less of a color nightmare 01:35 <@luxidream> no 01:35 <@carlarc> as in, making levels have a nethack/slashem level of coloring 01:36 <@carlarc> damn 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Menche (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2886 points, T:5207, killed by a gray unicorn 02:02 when did that happen, that when you do D in a shop you get the price of everything? even stuff belonging to you? even things the shop doesn't sell? even on the free square? 02:02 I thought for a moment "did I inadvertently sell all my stuff and pick it back up" but no, it was my own inventory 02:02 I 02:03 I'm glad I've got a bright menucolor for "unpaid" or it would be hard to figure out what *is* unpaid 02:15 [hdf-us] [dyn] YUME GA ARU (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 125 points, T:250, killed by a giant rat 02:48 aosdict: Does 3.6.2-hdf really have coloured branch stairs? I thought that was tnnt only. 02:49 yes it does 02:49 K2 must've added it. 02:49 I thought tnnt had coloured branch stairs *because* 3.6.2-hdf had it 02:49 and I must've ascended that tourist in december without even noticing it :P 02:50 raisse: Yes that is likely the way it went. 02:50 I don't think tnnt has anything that 3.6.2-hdf hasn't, except tournament-specific stuff 02:50 only noticed the shop thing today 02:51 (but then I haven't played for a couple of days because busy with other things) 02:57 <@carlarc> first spellbook i see in slashem extended has the appareance of "retarded spellbook" 02:57 <@carlarc> it's both infuriating and hilarious, in an awful yet astounding combination 03:02 aosdict: The nethack repo is so called, because it was forked from the altorg/nethack repo, which is (or was) the official source of the 3.4.3-nao build. That repo was named (by dtype) well before there was any suggestion that the devteam might ever release anything again. This was the first repo I forked for hardfought, because we had good instructions from dtype on how to make it work with dgl, and 03:02 didn't want to introduce any more variables while we were still trying to make it all work. 03:02 I'll probably rename it at some stage, but not today. 03:04 There is a bit involved, and it will affect everyone that has remotes pointing to it (which is the 3 hdf servers, and myself several times over, because I cherry-pick commits from it to all the other 3.4.3 variants from time to time. 03:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3879 03:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:08 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:6193 04:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:2361 04:54 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ele Red Mal Cha), 14016 points, T:1418, killed by a monster (earth elemental) 05:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:10663 06:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5059 06:41 umm.. no. just one more 4-leaf clover was actually what I wanted. 06:43 That's the second time I've received Grayswandir as a sacrifice gift. 06:44 ...and I've only been playing for something like 20 years. Suppose I should take it and run... weaponless conduct be damned! 07:08 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 07:12 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 07:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:20 K2: I have added SLASH'EM to NHS. 08:21 sweet 08:21 thanks Mandevil 08:22 i didnt have a chance to work on the unnethack stuff last night, and i didnt grab what I needed this morning so that will have to wait til tonight 08:22 today has already started out shitty 08:22 heh 08:22 Sorry to hear that. 08:22 oh its nothing serious, it just feels like a monday again 08:22 1st world problems 08:23 Hehe 08:23 school bus was way early this morning so by the time i got mini-me outside and ready we're waiting and waiting 08:23 and bus had already gone by and no one knew 08:23 Oh 08:23 so made me late for work (just got here) 08:24 I've started some NHS hacking. 08:24 But damn, there's too much things to do. 08:24 oh? do tell ;) 08:24 * K2 loves the NHS 08:24 TNNT for example needs work. 08:25 And then there's the actual work. 08:25 I am planning to rewrite our internal IPAM. 08:25 from scratch? 08:26 Not from scratch, but it needs significant refactoring, particularly on the front end side. 08:26 The front end will probably be completely new. 08:26 wow 08:28 For some reason guys here don't want to use the InfoBlox IPAM we already paid for. 08:28 I need to learn two frameworks in coming months. 08:28 That's going to be fun. 08:28 hmm 08:29 K2: BTW, when did you add SLASH'EM? 08:30 K2: I see the xlogfile going back to October... 08:30 sounds right 08:30 Even got three ascensions already. 08:30 its a fairly recent addition 08:30 yeah 08:31 i had to recover Disruptors last game a million times. got some bugs to work out 08:31 Hm. 08:31 SLASH'EM being buggy? 08:31 oh yeah 08:31 Maybe some of those bugs are fixed in SLEX? 08:31 at least 2 different persistient segfaults 08:31 i've discussed one with amy a couple days ago 08:32 nothing came of it 08:32 not going to bug Tangles yet, he's out until the 8th with things 08:32 I remember that someone told me their SLASH'EM game generated without the Vlad's stairs. 08:33 blah 08:33 first i am hearing of this 08:33 That was long time ago. 08:33 ah 08:42 @luxidream sorry I didnt get to your nh4 game last night. what's the name of your character? 08:44 K2: I am here... what do you need? 08:44 Tangles: its nothing thats a quick fix 08:44 I have small list of bugs i'm gonna need your help resolving when you have time 08:44 slash'em and gh 08:44 oh and sporkhack 08:45 congrats on killing that bastard kaen! 08:45 heh 08:45 \o/ 08:45 he's a pushover if you have ?oSM 08:45 ;) 08:45 ?oSM seems way too powerful. 08:46 its the new E word 08:46 It's better than E. 08:46 I think quest nemeses should be exempt. 08:46 well at least you cant use it from turn 1, gotta find a scroll first 08:46 Exempt> making it a Useless Useful Ability 08:46 Do demon princes respect it too? 08:47 Yeah it's a consumable resource, rather than an unlimited one. 08:47 Yep. 08:47 <@Tone> Mandevil: Is there a way to filter the vanilla scoreboards by version? I was trying to figure out what the lowest turncount 361 ascension was a while ago but I couldn't figure it out 08:47 @Tone Unfortunetely there isn't. All there is are the static pages. 08:48 @Tone If you have something specific, I can query the database for you. 08:49 <@Tone> Mandevil: I'm curious about the lowest turncount 360 and 361 games if you don't mind 08:49 Sure. 08:49 Give me little time. 08:50 <@Tone> No problem, take your time. 08:50 NHS really needs a rework. 08:50 <@Tone> Mandevil: Also if there's a way to see more than just the lowest 100 scores, then that would go a long way 08:51 I can bump up the limit of course... 08:53 @tone Can you read this? https://pastebin.com/wxs7uhr9 08:54 <@Tone> 100 is probably plenty for most uses. If the site ever gets a rework then the ability to set the size or having a "next page" link to scroll would be nice 08:54 @Tone Are you a database expert, by the way? ;-) 08:56 !tell ais523 nh4 crash backtrace from a recent game by luxidream - https://termbin.com/vj6d 08:56 No worries, K2, I've got this! 08:56 <@Tone> No I'm clueless, so I don't know how difficult anything like that is to implement 😄 08:56 Heh. 08:57 I am not much more clued... the problem is that the database has millions of entries and for dynamic website I'd need the queries to return with sub-second speed. 08:57 oh shit lol... Tangles we havent updated nethack4 in forever, and i think remember ais523 saying awhile back there's been some updates 08:57 nh4 updates? 08:57 Isn't that an abandonware? 08:57 well just minor bugfixes 08:57 no its not abandoned 08:58 <@Tone> Mandevil: by the way yes that looks great when I dump it into notepad 08:58 <@Tone> Thanks! 08:58 You're welcome. 08:59 -!- Antichthon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had long sword named Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:12740 09:03 aosdict: the new monk quest looks great. Love the new grass terrain too. 09:03 I think "very low maintenance mode" describes nh4 best atm 09:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 837 points, T:1401, killed by a dwarf lord 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 579 points, T:313, killed by a bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed magic marker", on T:45154 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 294 points, T:712, killed by a dwarf 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:45909 10:15 hey, there are variables in nethack named "dtype"! 10:16 can confirm. source: I grepped for dtype 10:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3361 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed Orb of Fate", on T:3362 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Eyes of the Overworld", on T:3367 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3418 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:3427 10:54 <@luxidream> K2: it's fine, as long as you reported the segfault, it's a dead run 10:54 ok 10:54 and i did 10:57 <@luxidream> still crashes 10:58 <@luxidream> it's this one 10:58 <@luxidream> [GOLDUCK EXPERIENCE REQUIEM] Val-dwa-fem-law Exp:14, 15213 turns, on Gehennom:31 10:58 well yeah it hasnt been fixed yet 10:58 i just let ais523 know 10:58 <@luxidream> gotcha 10:59 <@luxidream> looks like it might be the infamous NH4 timer bug 10:59 ahh 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh4] idl (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 20255 points, T:746, killed by a large mimic 11:10 -!- Disruptor has joined #hardfought 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:7967 11:47 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 11:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an arch-lich, on T:8557 11:54 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 12:23 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 12:27 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:49 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (cockatrice), on T:11309 13:01 -!- oh6 has left #hardfought 13:02 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 13:03 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:12 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:11949 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:11961 13:31 -!- Disruptor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:33 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:46 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:4613 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:12290 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:12295 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:12295 13:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Pri Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:5339 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) genocided class c, on T:12316 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed magic marker", on T:12317 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:12318 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:12448 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:12713 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:12715 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:12717 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:12717 14:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Pri Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10470 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5794 14:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 27828 points, T:15360, killed by a plains centaur 14:36 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Hea Dwa Fem Neu), 973 points, T:1506, killed by a bugbear, while frozen by a potion 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 91 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:46602 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of displacement", on T:12859 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:12884 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:12885 14:52 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 344 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:47094 15:03 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:13516 15:09 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 368 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:14391 15:22 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:14934 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:14935 15:35 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:40 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:6237 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first item, on T:7529 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:16000 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:16705 16:13 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:6698 16:25 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:25 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 16:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:49917 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:49919 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:18341 17:07 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: reloading my desktop environment] 17:07 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 17:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 17:34 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:50 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 645896 points, T:44260, poisoned by a rot worm 18:06 anyone see the recent commit tweaking the Astral Plane level? Thoughts? 18:09 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 18:09 !tell bhaak Belated congrats on the Unnethack release! 18:09 bhaak shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, AntiGulp. 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:9005 18:11 oh hey AntiGulp 18:11 happy new year :P 18:12 Happy new year! 18:12 Also belated! 18:12 \o/ 18:13 AntiGulp: remind me which branch of yours I should be paying attention to? Still development? 18:14 Development is the one I push new features to, yeah. I haven’t touched nethack in a little while besides checking the vanilla github page, sadly. I need my life to stabilize a bit more. 18:15 oh I also need to remember to pay attention to evilhack 18:15 I want to play tonight but I should clean my apartment. Hmmmmmmm 18:15 * K2 has been working on evilhack lately 18:16 * AntiGulp checks out evilhack page again 18:16 !8ball should AntiGulp clean her apartment now? 18:16 K2: Concentrate and ask again 18:16 !8ball should AntiGulp clean her apartment now? 18:16 K2: Yes definitely 18:16 AntiGulp: thanks! 18:16 bhaak: Message from AntiGulp at 2019-01-03 18:09 EST: Belated congrats on the Unnethack release! 18:16 Dang it 18:16 the 8ball does not lie 18:22 !8ball does the 8ball lie? 18:22 aosdict: My reply is no 18:22 all praise the 8ball! 18:33 so this is a first for me. two shops on the same level (dlvl 6) 18:33 hothraxxa: Message from K2 at 2019-01-02 21:36 EST: I've made progress on my version of the spell failure bit w/ body armor. i'll fill you in tomorrow 18:33 thanks beholder 18:34 this is spork. can that happen in vanilla? 18:34 no 18:34 didn't think so 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11384 18:42 Fun fact: It is possible to play nethack with a gamecube controller, as I have just discovered. 18:43 hah 18:46 <[Demo]6> yikes 18:46 It’s not as unplayable as it sounds. Just… almost that unplayable. 18:47 Finally I can wavedash in nethack 18:52 what bindings are you using? 18:52 ais523: Message from K2 at 2019-01-03 08:56 EST: nh4 crash backtrace from a recent game by luxidream - https://termbin.com/vj6d 18:52 NetHack on a game control is something I've put serious thought into 18:53 K2: someone else reported that to me by email, in a different game 18:53 weird that it's come up twice in a row after NH4 not being updated for months and the relevant code not being updated for years 18:53 oh good. so its not just one case 18:53 I've put in a patch to convert the crash to a panic, allowing users to rewind their games manually when it happens 18:53 and yeah i know we've been slacking on updating our copy of nh4 18:54 but I haven't fixed the underlying problem 18:54 there was a reason why we havent... 18:54 something to do with the new watchmode i think 18:54 and saved games 18:54 i cant remember entirely 18:54 you made a change to the way saves work in hardfought-NH4 that makes them incompatible with unmodified NH4 binaries 18:55 I was planning to write code to detect and fix saves in hdf format but never got around to it 18:55 ah right 18:55 it's not trivial but it should be possible 18:56 well its not like nh4 saves on hdf are going to be ran anywhere else 18:56 it does mean I can't just load an hdf save up locally to debug it 18:56 which is what I normally do with crashed saves 18:57 AntiGulp: I think I would instinctively try to fight things with A and B 18:57 but the backtrace is usually good enough 18:57 ah ok makes sense 18:58 i cant even remember the last time i sent anyone an hdf nh4 serve 18:58 save 18:58 ais523: I’m still in the process of getting it working. The program I’m using doesn’t read diagonal inputs, which is making things difficult. It does, however, allow switching to different mappings with one input, so I can cycle to different parts of the keyboard and use one key as shift to get the full range. 18:58 serve save 18:58 you can recover an NH4 save by deleting the last three lines in a text editor (make sure you keep the trailing-newline-ness the same) 18:58 or, not always the last three, it's usually three 18:58 the new last line should end in + 18:58 that'll rewind it to before the most recent user input 18:58 *should start with + 19:00 for this particular transfer_timers crash, I believe it's caused by arriving at a level occupied by a monster who migrated while holding a deteriorating/rotting item (normally a corpse), and that you can fix it from inside the game by being on the level that the monster migrated /from/ at the time the corpse rots 19:00 (the problem is that the timer gets attached to the timer queue for the level the monster migrated from, but the item isn't on that level any more) 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:5534 19:03 right, i've done the same type of edits to fiqhack saves before 19:03 just been awhile 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1797 points, T:5630, killed by a gnome lord 19:09 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 19:10 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Sam Hum Mal Law), 29 points, T:139, killed by a fox 19:36 -!- UsagiMero has joined #hardfought 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 172 points, T:874, killed by a small mimic 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2704 points, T:2942, killed by an orc-captain 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law), 15 points, T:353, killed by a goblin 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered it, her faithful kitten, on T:863 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 672 points, T:1582, killed by a rothe 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1026 points, T:2746, killed by a housecat 20:45 -!- Disruptor has joined #hardfought 20:49 Slash'EM updated (all servers) 20:49 ^ segfault bug fixes 20:49 Disruptor good timing again 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:13019 20:50 try your slash'em game if you have time 20:51 <[Demo]6> segfault bug fixed? 20:51 <[Demo]6> what was the issue? 20:51 https://github.com/k21971/slashem/commits/hardfought 20:56 will do 20:57 was just coming on to message you to figure out what the slashem repository was 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) murdered Schroedinger's Cat, his faithful housecat, on T:18012 21:02 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8086 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] LowTonecount (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 196 points, T:135, killed by a jackal 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:22745 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22746 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cream pie on an altar, on T:3174 22:13 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 22:16 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:36 YANI: Special level that contains an inactive portal hub (either on just one square or on multiple?). At various other special levels in the dungeon you can find other inactive portals, and you can do something to bring them back online, connecting them to the portal hub. Possibly, Gehennom should have its own hub, with the Valley having portals to both the upper and lower hubs. 22:37 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:24619 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:25213 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:7594 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:26410 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:26412 23:21 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:26690 23:30 ais523: making some wiki updates to the trap article and am finding out about rndtrap... do you have any idea why there are two pieces of logic for choosing a random trap? (the other is mktrap) 23:32 someone implemented tile priority in the pokemon crystal engine 23:32 neat 23:33 or whatever the term is 23:33 tile layers 23:33 the ability for you to both stand on a bridge and be in water below it 23:34 <[Demo]6> oh cool 23:36 probably the only notable feature in 3gen that the 2gen overworld lacksed in technical capabilities 23:37 FIQ: that also caused my biggest barrier to progressing in sapphire 23:37 hm 23:37 there's a section where you have to walk under a bridge. I didn't think it was a bridge, I thought it was a big uncrossable barrier. 23:37 so I got stuck. 23:38 the first exposure to tile layering in RS is around the bike road iirc 23:38 yes there 23:38 the only exposure actually I think that is notable 23:39 <[Demo]6> ahhh yeah 23:39 there are some other bridges here and there that you can surf/walk under 23:39 mhm 23:39 <[Demo]6> i never thought about that being a feature 23:40 I wonder how PC does it exactly 23:40 given how rarely it used it 23:40 it took until cianwood (more than half the game before the league) for me to see it used 23:40 <[Demo]6> so its in crystal but not gold or silver? 23:41 no, someone has a romhack and implemented it there 23:41 a crystal romhack 23:41 <[Demo]6> ohhh 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:27007 23:42 been doing a playthrough of polished crystal using my 60fps patches, mostly borrowed from prism 23:43 to see how much things broke as a result 23:43 surprisingly little 23:44 occasional screen tearing, spinners being twice as fast, and NPC facing issues in certain scripts was as far as 60fps-derived issues went 23:45 and I didn't have to deal with some of the more noticeable slowdowns in the crystal engine as a result 23:45 entirely worth it 23:46 yes 23:46 I can work with this 23:46 looks like the mai work is ensuring all of the game runs at the intended 60fps rather than the vanilla 30, rather than fixing bugs 23:47 which can be addressed over time 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 901826 points, T:27046, killed by the Wizard of Yendor 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11514 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:11550