00:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2273 points, T:1916, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a potion 00:36 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 1442 points, T:1190, killed by a giant ant 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 303 points, T:661, killed by a water demon 01:02 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:03 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 01:03 -!- greqrg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:28 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 02:12 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31454 02:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:46 <@carlarc> i just found the portals to the lawful quest, the normal quest, the neutral quest, and the chaotic quest, all in descending order, one every dlevel down 02:46 <@carlarc> starting from 14 02:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:25 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:27 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 03:30 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:34529 04:07 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:31 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:32 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 04:36 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:37238 04:37 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 helm of brilliance", on T:37239 04:39 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:48 -!- Antichthon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:04 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 05:16 <@carlarc> goddamnit 05:16 <@carlarc> how do i stop myself from accidentally quitting 05:27 OPTIONS=paranoid_confirmation:quit 05:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] caeciliusinhorto (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2386 points, T:3115, killed by a black pudding 05:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:57 -!- beetcoin has quit [Quit: rip] 05:57 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:57 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 05:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 05:58 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 06:02 4 more hours until new years eve here 06:02 er 06:02 5 06:03 and... new year, not new years eve 06:03 wow i really messed that up 06:25 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:36 -!- [Demo] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:36 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 06:38 stenno, the important bit was it'll soon be 2020! 06:38 wait, no 06:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:41 It will. There's only one year left. 06:41 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 06:43 if we naively assume time is consistent, yes.. 07:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:15 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:47 happy new year Tangles :D 07:56 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:58 time to start drinking and play nethack 08:02 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:06 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:10 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 08:22 sporkhack doens't have paranoid_hit ? 08:23 no hpmon either.. 08:24 yeah but statuscolors, ok 08:25 lol editing sporkhack rcfile feels like a blast from the past 08:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:8220 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8422 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 32616 points, T:12827, killed by the wrath of Huan Ti 09:19 Thanks Stenno. Happy New Year to you too ;) 09:20 not yet! still 2-ish hours left :D 09:25 Yeah... close though :) (you were also 13 minutes early - but I did not see the message until just now) 09:25 oh damn 09:25 sorry~ 09:28 no need... good luck with sporkhack. You playing on the au server while in hk? 09:28 yep 09:28 as i said before, sporkhack is my moby dick 09:29 i am trying to ascend it on and off since 2013 or so :D 09:29 Oh yeah I see you there just a few lines back. lightning :/ 09:30 I've only done it once. 09:30 grats! 09:30 well, technically twice, because it crashed on 'Congratulations, Mortal!' and I had to do the planes again. 09:30 >.< 09:30 thats evil 09:32 time for some white russian :D 09:32 :D 09:43 "Y-crad looks at your corpse and sighs." same, Y-crad, same. 09:56 Tangles: congratulations and happy new year, mortal! 09:57 thanks raisse :) 09:59 we have 8 hours to go 10:02 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 587 points, T:858, killed by a gnome lord 10:02 wajoo! 10:02 greetings from the future o7 10:02 1 hour left 10:11 morning 10:11 * K2 slept in 10:11 stenno you'll have to report back from the future and let us know how 2019 is 10:12 and private msg me winning lottery numbers kthx 10:14 they're 42 23 6 fnord 19 and 77 10:15 hey! happy new yeat attie! 10:15 45 min to go 10:15 but thanks! 10:16 to go? where in AU are you? 10:16 K2: we have flying cars 10:16 I'm in HK 10:16 oh i see 10:16 not quite as far east :D 10:16 why did i think you were in AU 10:16 because I play on AU probably 10:16 * stenno sits next to attie rn 10:16 stenno: fly to my house! 10:16 operation: drunk nethack well underway 10:16 o7 10:16 thats awesome 10:16 so far it's much like regular nethack 10:16 pics or it didnt happen 10:17 ok 10:17 \o/ 10:17 i think for Tangles its been the new year for 2 hrs 17 min already 10:17 selfie incoming, sec 10:17 hahah 10:18 drunk nethack selfies 10:19 https://twitter.com/penguin_attie/status/1079758802327498752 10:19 woooo! 10:19 with my extremely boring wall 10:19 :D 10:20 * stenno blushes 10:20 attie my daughter noticed your hat immediately (twitter profile pic) 10:20 hah 10:20 she now wants one 10:20 it's easy to make yourself 10:21 I made it in like 3h for a concert I went to pretty exactly one year ago 10:21 (the logo stitched on it says "Piko" which is the name of the singer, in japanese) 10:21 nice 10:21 just knit a straight rectangle, fold in half, and sew up the sides 10:21 the bulkier the yarn, the better 10:21 we got mini-me a loom for xmas, she's already making a purse with it 10:22 yay! 10:22 thats awesome K2 10:22 oh yeah a loom would probably work too 10:22 * raisse followed you (I'm irinarempt) 10:23 o/ 10:23 hope you enjoy rants about how the FPGAs are misbehaving today 10:24 I may post a drunk nethack selfie when I'm drunk enough 10:24 (only had half of 1 beer now) 10:25 * K2 is uploading a selfie now 10:25 hat tip for mini-k2: have someone measure your head so you know how big of a rectangle to make 10:25 it's very hard to measure your own head 10:25 oh yeah 10:26 this was my... 3rd attempt at that particular hat I think 10:26 the first one was too shallow 10:27 stopped knitting too early 10:27 me and the offspring - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2504/source 10:27 just now 10:27 last day 2018! 10:27 I made a pussy hat for a friend who was going to the women's protest (I couldn't go myself because obligations but I can knit and she can't) so I have some experience with that shape 10:27 cute! 10:28 attie i followed you on twitter also. i only ever use twitter during nethack tournament time though. sorta 10:28 it tells me "The image "https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2504/source" cannot be displayed because it contains errors" 10:29 refresh once, for some reason it only shows on second load 10:29 try reloading 10:29 hooray for php lol 10:29 worked for me second time 10:29 yeah ever since i upgraded to php 7.2 10:29 drunk nethack selfies, awesome! 10:29 oh right, does it for me too 10:29 i don't do selfies 10:29 yes, cute 10:29 me either 10:29 I do selfies very rarely 10:30 a picture of a plushie will be allowed as a substitute 10:30 no selfie obligation here :D 10:30 i did a sort of selfie. camera on tripod with timer 10:31 I suppose you've all seen this one https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1fsance1fkp8xr/atsign-selfie-reduced.jpg?dl=0 10:31 did you know? "selfie" is short for "self-portrait" and does not rely on the mode of portraiture 10:31 stenno you look a lot like a friend of mine i used to play in a band with long time ago 10:31 awesome head raisse 10:31 oh, yes, the 'at 10:31 yeah i just hate the term 10:31 er hat too 10:31 https://i.imgur.com/2dkG4hb.jpg 10:31 me wearing a shirt with a caricature of me wearing a shirt with a picture of me on it 10:32 I like your actual face better than the caricature 10:32 thats awesome hothraxxa 10:32 nice one, hothraxxa! 10:32 lol hothraxxa you look exactly like i thought you'd look 10:32 thanks 10:32 this is great 10:32 K2: maybe i am that person! 10:32 k2: you've seen my picture in out book 10:32 our 10:32 yeah but i forgot 10:33 that shirt is the result of a series of in-jokes 10:33 hothraxxa: "fuck combustion"? 10:33 is that a pipe? 10:33 indeed. i moderate a vaporizer forum 10:33 aah! 10:33 no it's a flashvape 10:33 like, vaporizer 10:34 like the vaporizer you use for the thingy 10:34 cannabis vaporizers 10:34 right 10:34 fuckcombustion.com 10:34 it's all chill and legal nowadays in the US, right? 10:34 this is the best conversation ever 10:34 stenno some states yes 10:34 stenno: i'm in canada and it's legal here 10:34 gotcha, great 10:34 yeah it recently became legal in all of canadia 10:35 i get my cannabis from my new dealer the government 10:35 yes i said 'canadia' 10:35 that's where the canadians come from after all 10:35 :D 10:35 stenno its legal for recreational use in my state also 10:36 wait whut? 10:36 * stenno lowkey envious 10:36 eventually all of the USA prob within next 5 yrs or so 10:36 isn't it surprising that - 10:36 yeah 10:36 i didn't know vermont went legal 10:36 hothraxxa recently 10:36 congratulations 10:36 and all the so-called progressive countries in europe it's still illegal 10:36 july 1st i think 10:37 note for dublin-goers: https://www.cannabis.info/en/blog/legal-status-ireland 10:38 there are cannabis disposal stations at many of the border crossings now 10:38 in NL it's illegal but tolerated https://www.cannabis.info/en/blog/legal-status-netherlands 10:38 wajoo! 10:38 medical is legal in germany now 10:38 i think tourists have problems getting cannabis legally in NL nowadays? 10:38 can you tell i just learned that the dutch say wajoo? 10:38 lol 10:38 !who 10:38 FIQ: [hdf-us] oh6 [tnnt] SkydiveMike [nh362] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh362] elenmirie [nh362] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] attie [nh362] 10:39 my mom got cancer and her first thought was "I want that!" but then she barely had any pain after the op 10:39 such disappoint lol 10:39 stenno: yes, you need to identify yourself with a dutch ID 10:39 i dont think i could ever smoke it (i dont like smoking in general) but i'm pretty sure i wouldnt mind a pot brownie 10:40 nobody should smoke cannabis 10:40 i'll have to wait until after i retire from the military 10:40 vaporize it 10:40 K2: then you should talk to hothraxxa about vaporizers :) 10:40 hah 10:40 I should try at some point 10:40 hah 10:40 I'm not going to import any into ireland, I'm targeted too often at airport security anyway because I look eccentric 10:40 become less of a family disappointment 10:40 less? 10:40 I'm not going to put on old-lady clothes to fly 10:41 you dont do drugs! such a disappointment 10:41 never understood the reasoning behind banning *medical* 10:41 yah my mom didn't know what to do with such a straight-laced kid 10:41 people might misuse it to have fun! 10:41 raisse: back when i was a teenager, it was some sort of ritual to make vacation in NL to smoke some weed 10:41 like, not even a *little* deviance? 10:41 fiq: the history of the prohibition is actually pretty disturbing and nasty 10:41 she was quite happy when she discovered I was poly 10:41 touritst still do that afaik 10:42 raisse: yes, so you ban illegitimate uses of medical stuff 10:42 of *anything*, not just that and that drug 10:42 she didn't raise a complete bourgeois! 10:42 i've never done drugs 10:42 my mother came out to me as a lesbian when I came out to her as bi, when I was 20 or so 10:42 i figure i've had enough alcohol to make up tho 10:42 banning medical *useful* uses of things just because of potential misuse is stupid 10:42 (otherwise my mother and I were sort of fire and water) 10:42 yes, true 10:42 (personally I don't think you should ban drugs at all, but banning even medical uses of them is just stupid) 10:43 I agree 10:43 wait... ok what does 'poly' mean exactly? 10:43 so many different terms now 10:43 polyamorous, multiple partners 10:43 the only thing that should be banned is drugs-related crime 10:43 but crime is already illegal so that's taken care of 10:43 ahh, polyamory 10:44 one of those weird taboos I never understood 10:44 I may be bi but I'm very very monogamous (don't disapprove of polyamory, it's just not for me) 10:44 right it should be "polyam" because "poly" was used by the polynesian community 10:44 :D 10:44 I'm also bi but I never meet any women :< 10:44 if I'm ever widowed I may commit monogamy with a woman 10:45 ah ok 10:45 attie: that's a shame 10:45 so its have your cake and eat it too 10:45 hmm 10:45 no one to blame but myself 10:45 I just never leave the house 10:45 and working as a coder there's only men around 10:45 K2: not exactly but I'm not inclined to elaborate right now 10:46 so does nethack cause deviance or do deviants gravitate to nethack? 10:46 whats that saying... 'being bisexual immediately doubles your chances for a date on saturday night' 10:46 this reminds me of settings where death makes you unite with your loved ones (family, whatever) 10:46 in a universe where you unite with loved ones in death, monogamy makes no sense whatsoever 10:46 I never did the dating thing anyway 10:46 hah, well if you spend your saturday evenings elsewhere than in front of your computer playing nethack maybe :D 10:46 heheh 10:46 K2: that statement is really dubious 10:47 you don't go to the same places for gay vs straight involvement 10:47 well to be very precise I am really into gender deviance 10:47 FIQ its a joke 10:47 probabilities can't be double in general, since they are on [0, 1] 10:47 its ok to laugh 10:47 K2: yeah I got that 10:47 hothraxxa: I think deviants and nethack players end up in the same pockets of non-mainstreamness 10:47 I am just being boring 10:47 but due to environment that just means I end up with nerds that don't get their hair cut ever 10:48 :v 10:48 lol 10:48 my hair hasn't been cut since the early 2000s or so 10:48 and I admit I'm a nerd 10:48 stenno i have a set of trimmers you can borrow 10:48 i will cut my hair at some point 10:48 fu K2 :v 10:48 I made a vow not to cut my hair until I finish my thesis 10:48 :P 10:48 :D 10:48 I have way too much hair now 10:48 no such thing! 10:48 * K2 loves long hair 10:48 it's extremely annoying 10:49 hair is good! I wish I had more hair, it's always been very fine and it doesn't grow beyond my bra strap 10:49 when i retire i'm going full hippie mode 10:49 like Tangles? 10:49 never cuting my hair again 10:49 and also does not reflect my preferred gender presentation 10:49 raisse: even more 10:49 K2: you look like an anti hippie tho 10:49 well i'm a soldier so... 10:49 that's because he's in the army I suppose 10:49 yeah 10:49 BUT 10:49 i used to have really long hair 10:50 stand up and fight! 10:50 year 1997 - https://www.hardfought.org/images/me_long.jpg 10:50 ok people 10 minutes to go :v 10:50 I don't see why women in the army would be allowed to tie their hair back and men have to cut it short 10:50 stenno: you are in australia? 10:50 we are drinking vodka-fruit punch of death right now 10:50 FIQ: i am with attie in hong kong right now 10:51 ah 10:51 * K2 approves of vodka death punch 10:51 you are early 10:51 australia is already completely in the future 10:51 K2: it suits you 10:51 miss it :/ 10:51 yes it does! 10:51 raisse: we just had a lawsuit about the same in prison 10:51 hair was another foot longer, pic cropped it 10:51 there's a lawmaker called "long-hair" here 10:52 you look dashing K2 10:52 lol dashing 10:52 either everybody should cut it (in certain circumstances) or everybody should be allowed to keep it out of the way of their work another way 10:52 idk i looked up a word and my translation program told me that it means that 10:52 how does everyone know what K2 looks like 10:52 who made a vow not to cut his hair until mainland china recognized the tiananmen massacre 10:52 german word is 'schneidig' 10:52 nooodle: they've seen the pictures? 10:52 nooodle: he just posted a picture 10:52 but then he was condemned to prison and had his hair cut 10:52 ohhhh 10:52 he wasn't happy 10:53 nice, strong forehead 10:53 naughty K2 10:53 heh 10:53 nooodle: is that really a compliment lmao 10:53 nice? or naughty? 10:53 7 min to go attie and stenno! 10:53 ikr! 10:53 it is!! 10:53 errrrmahgerd 10:53 :D 10:53 \o/ 10:54 who will get first ascension in utc 2019 10:54 Tangles is on track 10:54 not me that's for sure 10:54 oh utc 10:54 until Luxidream notices 10:54 not me, I keep running into things around corners in dark corridors 10:54 that's still like 7 hours to go? 10:54 yes :3 10:54 ^_^ 10:54 i have a spork game going, just cleared castle, but i wont ascend it today 10:55 or tomorrow 10:55 not me either, I've just started Yet Another Gnomish Wizard 10:55 insert "Doomed" somewhere in that phrase 10:55 <--- dorf wizard 10:55 if i fail, i just blame the lag 10:55 nice, going to try to follow raisse for some [oMR 10:55 I let the rng decide and am an orc wiz now 10:55 ooh hey attie/stenno, whats the ping to hdf-au from HK? 10:55 120ms? 10:56 hey attie and stenno, have a wonderful new year, I'm being called away to co-cook 10:56 thats not too bad 10:56 i got super mad in my last game, suicided after killing a jackal -- was on track for min-score (modulo the sanctum depth) and had an archon 10:56 err much worse 10:56 raisse: same same! thanks 10:56 * K2 waves to raisse 10:56 PING au.hardfought.org (54.79.54.26): 56 data bytes 10:56 64 bytes from 54.79.54.26: icmp_seq=0 ttl=45 time=460.821 ms 10:56 64 bytes from 54.79.54.26: icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=382.906 ms 10:56 64 bytes from 54.79.54.26: icmp_seq=2 ttl=45 time=316.133 ms 10:56 64 bytes from 54.79.54.26: icmp_seq=3 ttl=45 time=212.095 ms 10:57 that's a jackal-killing ping 10:57 its the chinese govt snooping your data packets! 10:57 here is EU ping 10:57 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss 10:57 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 312.568/424.644/520.164/72.583 ms 10:58 here is US: 10:58 6 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 16.7% packet loss 10:58 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 285.719/321.768/436.617/57.581 ms 10:58 K2: not yet, for now we are outside the great firewall 10:58 ah hah 10:59 au is consistently 140ms for me 10:59 15 sec! 10:59 idk what's wrong with stenno's pc 10:59 ey! 10:59 anyway 11:00 happy new year! 11:00 woooo! 11:00 happy new year!! 11:00 happy new yeeeeear 11:00 \o/ 11:00 ok so 11:00 whats it like in the future 11:01 lol 11:01 trump isn't president anymore 11:01 omg attie is playing nethack from the future! 11:01 stenno dont tease us like that 11:01 sry :3 11:01 someday... 11:02 thank for term limits 11:02 great start into the new year ^ 11:02 that's what it's like 11:02 death and destruction, check 11:02 field littered with bodies, check 11:03 heh 11:03 also stenno spilled vodka into my lap on the dot 11:03 K2: we don't have term limits in germany btw 11:03 o7" 11:03 omg stenno 11:03 high crimes 11:03 v)v" 11:03 ikr 11:03 wasting vodka! 11:04 and we spent 2 days infusing it into this dragonfruit 11:04 ooh, dragonfruit vodka 11:04 sounds splendid 11:04 yeah it turned out great 11:04 we have some nice fruit punch here 11:04 hmmm this reminds me of what i will be drinking tonight 11:04 I broke out my brand new pusheen mug I got for xmas to drink it 11:05 every year for last few years, my wife has made chocolate raspberry vodka from the raspberries we pick from our yard 11:05 its like rasp choc cake in a glass 11:05 oh that sounds nice. 11:05 aah that sounds great too 11:05 imagine pouring that over vanilla ice cream 11:06 I'm imagining! 11:06 ok i'm hungry 11:06 we had the option to make 'mud punch' (not sure how it's called in english) 11:06 which is punch with vanilla ice cream 11:06 oh man 11:06 want 11:06 the drinks from the future sound so cool, thanks for sharing stenno 11:07 what special technology are you two using to talk to us mere mortals in the past? tachyon field of some sort? 11:07 it's the ansible 11:07 'mud punch' 11:07 data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBxMTEhUSEhMVFRUXFRgVGBUXFxcXFRcXFxcXFxcXFxcYHSggGBolHRUXITEhJSkrLi4uFx8zODMtNygtLisBCgoKDg0OGhAQGi0dHR0tLS0tLS0tLSstLS0tNS0tKy0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0rLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tKy0tLf/AABEIAMIBAwMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAACAwEBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAABAgADBAUGB//EADkQAAIBAgQDBgUCBgEFAQAAAAABAgMRBCExQRJRYQVxgZGh8BMiscHRMuEUI1JikvEzQlNyorIG/8QAGQEAAwEBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQF/ 11:07 8QAJBEBAQACAgICAwADAQAAAAAAAAECEQMhBBIxQRMiURRhcTL/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQA/AOrTiWqIIodHNtuFgBIIikCQkIQhBgCECBgCwSBsARohLCAALVRlyCqH90V4j1aNqAWNEqFt0+4R0/d/2D1o2psCxc6fvP8AAFDu/wDYWqaloUtnHu8pfcrlF8/RiBWgAafP0Fd+a8n+RgQMSU2uT7r/AGTKZ46K/Vl129c/QJLfgtr2Qiaaus09LbkjqTTeQ7QletUf98l5O32KQ1ZXlJ85Sfm2A9XCdRy29oSxAmsIjiQLCVon0aA1w1KfC+G98r5BqxS0eR49ljq2UDC0FQyFTKQksmC4iEALk40GjMQCe5ACEIQAWc0k29EZIVakneOS/uWXo3c2OnfXwX3Lk 11:07 hyiqqa52vva5dGN/bLKdMtaKk2Snh95iyLJCNlaIqiLUosdSNFN8WXN2RNVHOlBlckdDtdfPw2UeFcLs7puOTefMxUorPibWTt32yXnYg1TpPp5oR0u7zQWIw2NKp0u4wY3BqayuuqbXpozoNlVRboeOWisZ+za9rUZ/qivle0or7r3ubW7Z8jn4uldXWUlmnumi1YrioznuoSuuTSfpuVnjvuFjfp5Km8hxIaDHqSOWiEBLlyFsGyAZB9lt9TxS+Z+93b6FFdfM11NNaF25axt68U7fQzYh/M+88nN04hVQqlkGs8imLyZlWkRyuSLK07Drn71CCtFNLl7sJJJTa2uw0tUuY+OpcE9d/8Af1Ne9I+1aISSs/fvchlVoGKFLIIkCkWU4ipGmNJpXsXJStTiS 11:07 yCndXRmnQle9v8AfIto3Ss019C8MvqlYEypjTkVykPIoDYLiykWYajxt7JK5nauKZyK2zViKEVe0m3ra1/NoxTdidxUCRXJjSZS2BhJiNjCNkiFZycVJw+IlpKLi13r5X4Xt4s67RzMd+u3RfdHTwXd1WXL04SCSpGzaIenHKhCEKSFiEbIAfYOwpJxs9438pz/ACcvFZTfeP2O3xwaklqnd2vpvbr6C9oL+ZPvZ5WV3xx0yayqqbujPN2NNN5WM1T9RnZ0uI3qWUdCktpMUqqaGTXeaMe3KbKEszbj42d+cYv0t55Fy/rU/bLV1XvYUfEbd6+jEM8vlUFI2un8pkorM2wTyXvMeIqYWCbyzNNesrxjfJa21fcg0LICVrvnuO71oulyw7SvdXebRRUVk7Pr1 11:07 <[Demo]6> wait dyall got the future? 11:07 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.3] 11:07 LOL 11:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:08 we have seen the future, and it is spam... 11:08 google thought that 'copy link address' meant 'copy image as base64' 11:08 <[Demo]6> oh well 11:08 sorry for that 11:08 hahaha 11:09 for a sec there i thought you were sending your private ssh key to your computer 11:09 https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjYhr_fucrfAhXBy7wKHWGDBEkQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chefkoch.de%2Frezepte%2F254461100643656%2FSchlammbowle-2.html&psig=AOvVaw3t5ZF9vceUECT8fmPRvFcY&ust=1546358842327000 11:09 mud bowle 11:09 mud punch* 11:09 passion fruit with vanilla ice cream 11:09 huh 11:09 that looks decadent 11:09 <[Demo]6> SLAMBOWL 11:10 [Demo]6: THAT 11:10 schlamm = mud in german 11:10 stenno I challenge you to a scorpion bowl chug contest 11:10 <[Demo]6> slam bowl is cooler than mud bowl 11:10 in dublin in august at worldcon 11:11 challenge accepted 11:11 \o/ 11:11 hoorah! 11:11 that's almost my birthday lol 11:11 (26th august0 11:11 plz let me have graduated until then 😭 11:11 regardless of who wins, we'll need assistance walking afterwards 11:12 K2: that sounds great! 11:12 because the EU is AWESOME 11:12 i can just travel there how i like 11:12 <3 EU 11:12 i have a pic of my doing the scorpion bowl challenge somewhere... 11:12 *me 11:12 what even is the scorpion bowl 11:13 so, imagine a large wide shallow bowl, with a riased smaller bowl in the middle 11:13 the large part is filled with ice and a tropical fruity alcohol mix (lots of alcohol) 11:13 the smaller middle bowl is filled with bacardi 151 11:14 you chug the larger portion, whoever loses has to drink both smaller middle parts 11:14 and you can light that on fire for effect 11:14 ok that sounds deadly 11:14 lol 11:14 it is ;) 11:14 hooray o7 11:14 I am really feeling that white russian I chugged to make space for the bowle right now 11:15 but if I can spell it's fine right? 11:15 that really does sound deadly 11:16 * attie keeps to the water for a bit 11:16 :) 11:16 i cant find the pic 11:16 it must be on facebook 11:16 * K2 quit facebook almost a year ago 11:16 what is this facebook you speak of 11:17 oh right new character 11:17 !role 11:17 attie: slex monk 11:17 GL 11:17 no I am not playing that 11:17 but monk ok 11:18 !role nh362 11:18 K2: No variant nh362 on server. 11:19 wut 11:19 feels bad man 11:19 !role 362 11:19 K2: No variant 362 on server. 11:19 !role nethack 11:19 K2: valkyrie 11:19 !role 3.6.2 11:19 stenno: No variant 3.6.2 on server. 11:19 :v 11:19 lies and slander 11:19 !role stenno 11:19 K2: No variant stenno on server. 11:19 :v 11:19 NOOOOO 11:20 sporkhack beckons 11:21 here a very long result from au ping because i forgot to ctrl+c 11:21 1266 packets transmitted, 1266 packets received, 0.0% packet loss 11:21 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 137.558/320.167/1037.935/143.826 msy 11:21 y 11:21 137 min? 11:21 woo 11:21 but man thats all over the place 11:21 -!- dewz has joined #hardfought 11:21 1000 max lol 11:24 happy new year stenno and attie! 11:24 there's a pheasant stewing on our stove 11:24 thanks raisse :D 11:24 ooooooh 11:24 that sounds great! 11:24 thank you raisse! 11:24 that sounds super tasty 11:25 I'm not a pheasant plucker, I'm the pheasant plucker's mate. I'm only plucking pheasants 'cuz the pheasant plucker's late 11:25 ^^something to say fast after a few vodkas 11:25 ez 11:26 wow that mud punch looks wonderful 11:26 i'm not pheasant phloucker, i am pheasant fuckers mate. i am only fucking pheasants course the pleasant fuckers late 11:26 * raisse has caramen liqueur 11:26 lol 11:26 caramel, either 11:26 lol 11:26 I mean "even" 11:26 and I'm not even drunk yet 11:26 (at least not drunk enough) 11:27 * attie is currently trying to simult-translate french to german with limited success 11:27 there's your problem! 11:27 it's an iranian recipe with pomegranate juice and walnuts 11:27 dont feel bad attie. some of us (read: me) have trouble translating english to english 11:27 we reverse-engineered it, put cinnamon and cardamom and saffron and garlic back in that they'd incomprehensibly left out 11:28 mmm, sounds nice raisse! 11:28 smells heavenly but needs at least another hour to get tender 11:30 we're just having toad in the hole tonight 11:30 I need to go do the prep soon 11:30 toad in the hole is lovely too! 11:31 other half will cook, but I chop the veggies because he hates doing that and I don't mind at all 11:31 we're having something simple with chicken and either pasta or rice tomorrow, because a friend is coming who will be very tired after exhausiting family stuff and a long train trip 11:31 so we're having the intricate festive stuff today 11:32 she's going to house-sit for us when we go to vienna (student, uni doesn't start until we're back) 11:33 she can eat whatever she likes from the fridge and borrow my bike as long as she makes sure there's food and milk and beer when we come back 11:33 I did most of the prep while spouse was frying the bird 11:38 Status of the purple worm (neutral): Level 36 HP 241(286) AC -6, tame, fast. 11:38 and we're not done clearing VotD yet 11:39 Status of stenno (neutral): Level 36 HP 241(286) AC -6, tame, fast. 11:39 never tame :v always rebel :v 11:39 you will do my bidding! 11:39 lmao 11:40 eat the things stenno 11:40 moar wraiths! 11:41 omnom 11:41 Stenno bites the vampire. Stenno swallows the vampire. "Burrrrp!"--More-- 11:41 burrrp 11:41 if you read a book and get confused mid reading you tear it apart ??? 11:41 this is a first time 11:42 I didn't know that.... 11:42 it can happen sometimes 11:42 I guess you forget whether you're supposed to be reading it, or eating it 11:42 omnom yummy book 11:43 "Being confused you have difficulties in controlling your actions" 11:43 "You accidentally tear the speelbook to pieces." 11:43 tear my spellbook into pieces, this is my last resort 11:49 stenno is lvl 39 now 11:49 shooting for mid 40's 11:49 like a pro 11:49 19 more wraiths here... 11:49 lvl 58? 11:51 <[Demo]6> anyone here ever battle palo alto virtual appliances? 11:52 er what? 11:56 ok so lvl 49 is max 11:56 i knew that 11:58 ok i think attie is out for today 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4294 points, T:13760, killed by a killer bee 11:58 Stenno swallows the priestess of Moloch. "Burrrrp!" 11:59 D: 11:59 like a baus? i guess? 11:59 stenno hah too much to drink already? or just tired 11:59 drink 11:59 it's ok 11:59 lol 11:59 i will stay awake a little longer i think and drink the rest 11:59 when did you all get started? 11:59 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:59 like, 4 hours ago? 11:59 ah ok 11:59 but we had some evil stuff 11:59 was about to say that was kinda quick 12:03 first step into gnomish mines and get hit with magic missile 12:03 food time 12:04 whew was that the vodka fruit? 12:04 eeeek 12:05 (wait, I'll edit what I was eeeeking about) 12:05 The raven misses! The raven blinds you! It bites! It misses! 12:05 Wait! There's something there you can't see! It gets angry! 12:05 "Halt! You're under arrest!" 12:05 You hear the shrill sound of a guard's whistle. It misses! 12:05 It just misses! You hear a nearby zap. Boing! It misses! 12:05 You hear a nearby zap. Boing! 12:05 It misses! It misses! You hear a nearby zap. 12:06 The magic missile hits you! For some reason you are not affected. 12:06 The magic missile hits it. You hear a nearby zap. Boing! 12:06 You can see again. 12:06 nice c/p 12:06 (the "some reason" was because I was wearing SDSM from bones) 12:07 but Akalapi killed me 12:07 * attie wisely stopped playing nethack 12:07 what is wisdom? 12:08 wisdom is not drinking more when you feel like throwing up 12:08 yes! 12:09 last time I was too drunk to function was when we thought we were financially ruined and went to a very posh restaurant "one last time" 12:09 we bought a bottle of very old brandy drank some of it when we got home, after all the wine with the dinner 12:09 that sounds very high stakes 12:10 (turned out the rumor of ruin was premature) 12:10 I just had a little more than perhaps wise 12:10 Wisdom is the offspring of Suffering and Time - PoE Quote 12:10 tell that to me from an hour ago 12:11 what timezone you all at that you already started drinking ? 12:11 utc+8, aka it's 1:11 am 12:12 happy new year of the pig 12:12 yeah im utc+1 12:13 happy new year to the people living in the future 12:16 bzzp 12:16 it's the end for me too now 12:16 I'm in utc+1 too (but drinking) 12:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 273752 points, T:31147, crushed to death by a collapsing drawbridge 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 592 points, T:7121, killed by a hobgoblin 12:19 !asc hypnotist 12:19 nooodle: [hdf-us] hypnotist has ascended 52 times in 102 games (50.98%): nh362:52 (52.53%) 12:19 !asc stenno 12:19 stenno: [hdf-us] stenno has not ascended in 1 games. | [hdf-eu] stenno has ascended 3 times in 148 games (2.03%): nh362:1 (1.69%), xnh:2 (22.22%) | [hdf-au] stenno has not ascended in 2 games. 12:19 :/ 12:20 better than mine, i have yet to ascend 12:21 !asc Dewzmint 12:21 dewz: [hdf-eu] Dewzmint has not ascended in 127 games. 12:21 it will come :) 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 18621 points, T:12712, quit 12:22 -!- Tmasher has joined #hardfought 12:22 !lastgame every 12:22 nooodle: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/every/nh361/dumplog/1546112665.nh361.txt 12:22 paci? 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 12:23 hrm 12:23 "You secure the tether." ??? 12:23 i've never seen this phrase in nethack before 12:23 it's the new an 12:23 an thingie 12:23 what were you trying to do? 12:23 aklys 12:23 oh 12:23 the 3.6.2 aklys 12:24 i've used aklyses in 3.6.2 but didn't know there was a secure thingie 12:24 the only thing I ever do with aklyses is sell them in the minetown general store 12:24 (well, that or ignore them) 12:25 you can throw them and they come back to your hand 12:25 like mojo 12:25 i've always thrown them and they've never returned to my hand 12:25 apparently i didn't know i had to secure them 12:25 oh? 12:25 ah 12:25 any special way to do that? 12:25 wielding them apparently? 12:26 @Tone is the aklys specialist 12:26 game changer 12:26 i think i'm tired of losing gnomish healers... 12:27 !rng lose-another-gnome | admit-gnome-defeat 12:27 nooodle: admit-gnome-defeat 12:27 lol 12:28 i still don't understand the quirk in nethack's speed system that killed my gnomefecta attempt 12:28 -!- Tmasher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:28 kept thinking about it and it still makes no sense 12:28 fuck the 3.6.1 speed system 12:29 it's a terrible change imo 12:29 well, yeah, it seems like "very fast" right now is a lot weaker than it used to be 12:29 if i understood correctly, you can always expect a monster to get an extra turn out of nowhere 12:29 maybe that's a good change, i don't know. speed boots were always kind of a no-brainer 12:30 well that's not the problem 12:30 the problem is more that you cannot really predict monster movement anymore 12:30 and in my opinion, that removes the 'chess' aspect of movement in nethack 12:30 i'm all right with unpredictability, as long as i can estimate chances 12:31 but i don't actually understand the logic enough to estimate the chances 12:31 it's humanly impossible to predict that 12:31 i guess this is also, in a sense, a buff to polyself 12:31 since polyself now seems to be the only way to increase guaranteed speed 12:32 well you still get your guaranteed increased speed 12:32 it's just that the monster speed is unpredicatable now 12:32 no, player speed is unpredictable also 12:33 "very fast" now means: on each turn, there is a 1/3 chance your movement is 12, and a 2/3 chance it is 24 12:33 so, it is possible you are "normal" speed -- 12 -- indefinitely many turns in a row 12:33 oh? 12:33 wasn't aware of that 12:33 * stenno sourcedives 12:34 source says to 'very fast': 12:34 if (rn2(3) != 0) 12:34 moveamt += NORMAL_SPEED; 12:35 correct. 12:35 (that's 3.6.2) 12:35 so, 2/3 chance you get an extra turn, but 1/3 chance you are just normal speed, 12. 12:35 if (Very_fast) { /* speed boots or potion */ 12:35 /* average movement is 1.67 times normal */ 12:35 moveamt += NORMAL_SPEED / 2; 12:35 if (rn2(3) == 0) moveamt += NORMAL_SPEED / 2; 12:35 that's 3.4.3 12:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:36 right 12:36 so you are not guaranteed the speed boost indeeed 12:36 so if you want to be guaranteed to have more movement points than 12, you need to be polyselfed 12:36 yep 12:36 gotcha 12:38 which... is ok. But maybe the message you get for "very fast" should be altered 12:39 "You feel yourself speed up, for the most part, I guess." 12:40 -!- dewz has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:41 "You begin to feel occasional bursts of extra speed." 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 567 points, T:1561, killed by a giant ant 12:43 :D 12:43 do you really think it's ok? i think it's terribl 12:43 e 12:44 the whole speed system is a mess in 3.6 12:44 imo 12:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:46 stenno, I do think they had to do something about hit&back 12:46 idk 12:46 figuring out the actual speed system in nethack is no easy task 12:46 it's something you figure out after long time of playing 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 12:48 it used to be the case that you could kill slower monsters without ever getting hit by timing stepping back vs hitting 12:48 that's just wrong imho 12:48 that's called 'kiting' 12:48 kiting is a skill that you have to acquire 12:48 used to work a treat on mumakil 12:48 centaurs do that to you in sporkhack hah 12:49 it's like saying that price ID is imbalanced because you can predict the item by knowing it's price imo 12:49 its? 12:49 you know 12:49 maybe the real problem is there is that the ratio of their movement rate to yours is a rational number 12:49 *there is that 12:49 stenno: I think the reasoning was that kiting was tedious and they didn't want to encourage it. Not entirely sure I agree, but. 12:49 a noob would still die in 3.4.3 getting killed by a mimic 12:49 a non-noob would move carefully aroudn it and wouldn't di 12:49 e 12:50 a skill acquired solely (arguably) by experience 12:50 nooodle, even if it's not a rational, it can be bounded by a rational 12:50 can the player please decide for themself what is too tedious? 12:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 5486 points, T:2889, poisoned by a giant spider 12:50 raisse, pudding farming was removed with the same reasoning 12:51 jilles: well, i mean, yes, but if a player moves 69 times for every 40 moves by a mimic, that's going to shake out as essentially random since you don't know where you are on the pattern 12:51 yes, and I've always been against the mindset of "I, the developer, think this is too easy/too tedious so nobody gets to do it" 12:52 how does the saying go, the punishment of pudding farming is the pudding farming 12:52 yes, and if you don't want to do it you just plain don't do it! 12:52 Status of stenno (neutral): Level 49 HP 400(400) AC -6, tame, fast. 12:52 ah food is ready 12:52 if a player decides to go to the tedium of pudding farming, they will reap the reward 12:52 K2: _so_ fast 12:53 <@luxidream> I don't like you can get doubled by a mimic in 3.6 if you're burdened 12:53 <@luxidream> like what 12:53 you are maxed out 12:53 * stenno flexes 12:53 i hope you survive to the planes 12:53 How long time can you spend farming pudding before getting bored? 12:53 @luxidream it's even worse: i think when you discover a mimic, they get random movement points now 12:53 only issue i see is if you eat a chameleon or something 12:54 true, even searching for a mimic is dangerous, or stethoscope or whatever 12:54 @luxidream as opposed to 3.4.3 where a discovered mimic would only move after 4 or so turns 12:54 @luxidream also congrats, i saw that you were #1 z-score of all variants earlier 12:54 which arguably makes you the best player :D 12:55 yes, it was too good for the player in 3.4.3, too bad in 3.6.x 12:55 jilles: it was too good for an _experienced_ player 12:55 Is z-score the score of how many dungeons level you travelled? 12:55 and that's not a problem imo 12:55 <@luxidream> heh, that's not really an achievement, but thanks 12:56 <@luxidream> it just means you have a lot of wins spread out over a lot of variants 12:56 phinxy: it's a score calculated by the numbers of ascensions over the number of roles 12:56 @luxidream thats a hell of an achievement 12:56 see what are the other top z-score players: tariru, stth 12:56 damn @luxidream congrats 12:57 phinxy - https://scoreboard.xd.cm/zscore.all.html 12:57 'Your Z Score for a role is the number of times you've ascended that role, with a twist. The first ascension in a role is worth 1 point, the next 1/2 points, the next 1/3 points, and so on. This means it's worthwhile to spread your ascensions out evenly (since your eighteenth wizard ascension is worth .0556 points while your first caveman is worth 1 full point). 12:57 In other words, this is meant to be an alternative to the best all around players which is (in some eyes) flawed because it considers score, and score is not a very good estimator of ability.' 12:58 and then do that across multiple variants 12:58 i used to be rank 3 lol but then i just stopped playing 12:58 or 4? 12:59 :/ 12:59 elenmirie_ and I are on track to surpass stth 12:59 which is insane 12:59 prob by next junethack 12:59 but stth stopped playing when 3.6 got released in 2015 13:00 yeah :/ 13:00 When is next big event? November? 13:00 :D 13:00 phinxy june 13:00 phinxy: it will be junethack, in june 13:00 also stroller lmao wtf 13:00 only vanilla ascension but still #6 z-score over all variants 13:01 thats crazy 13:01 he was in my clan once 13:01 <@luxidream> 633 wins 13:01 i think stth has over 1000 wins overall 13:01 stthp is marvin-like 13:01 @luxidream slex asc when? 13:01 Tariru cant be the only one 13:01 and stthp is not even linked to stth... 13:02 <@luxidream> ugh, do I really have to do that 13:02 man i miss my bruh 13:02 it can be 13:02 Mandevil said its easy to do 13:02 yeah you can poke him and then he does it 13:02 @luxidream It must be a streak 13:02 i asked Mandevil to add slash'em to the scoreboard. hope he does 13:02 i think that requires a lot of work 13:03 not really 13:03 <@luxidream> he also said adding realtime leaderboards for each variant would be easy 13:03 because you have to match all the role names 13:03 xlogfile and dumplogs are valid 13:03 <@luxidream> but he never did it 13:03 @luxidream he's on holiday 13:03 he also said that searching for players would be-- 13:03 so prob see changes after new years 13:03 actually he said that would be a bit problematic 13:03 stenno: Vanilla Slash'EM doesn't have that many role names really. Comparable to dnethack. 13:03 Nothing like the nightmare that is slex. 13:03 oh i thought about slex 13:03 heh 13:04 slash'em is easier, i guess, yeah 13:04 'vanilla slashem' 13:04 slex would be more involved, yes. 13:04 i like slash'em so far 13:04 havent made it too far yet 13:04 hey @luxidream got 3 months of spare time? 13:04 but i already see where grunthack got ideas from 13:04 <@luxidream> to do what? 13:04 you could try tackling zipcodes record 13:04 <@luxidream> maybe in june 13:04 you would ascend to god-hood 13:04 @luxidream go the full monty in slex 13:05 all race/role/alignment combos 13:05 <@luxidream> I just have to beat 52 ascensions in a month right? 13:05 !rng take stenno with me to gehennom | park him at the VotD 13:05 K2: park him at the VotD 13:05 D: 13:05 i think votd is safer for me 13:05 @luxidream 234 ascensions in 3 months 13:06 err 13:06 that doesn't sound right 13:06 <@luxidream> 78 ascensions per month? 13:06 <@luxidream> um 13:06 78291 is zipcode 13:06 yeah something like that 13:06 <@luxidream> according to the wiki his max was 52 13:06 <@luxidream> in one month 13:07 n July 2007, his output peaked at 52 ascensions per month (1.7 ascensions per day), quite likely a NetHack record 13:07 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:38391 13:07 i brought stenno with 13:07 <@luxidream> might be hard though, I had to take a week and a half off during junethack due to tilt 13:07 rng be damned 13:07 @luxidream you need a paid sponsor 13:08 so you can just play nethack and not have to work 13:08 * stenno is tempted to sponsor luxidream but that might be because i am drunk as fuck 13:08 <@luxidream> !rng stenno survives | stenno is displaced into water | stenno survives | stenno is disintegrated | stenno survives | stenno steps on a level teleport trap 13:08 @luxidream: stenno steps on a level teleport trap 13:09 pls luxi 13:09 <[Demo]6> need a nethack daddy 13:09 lol nh sugar daddy 13:09 now that tariru has vanished, luxi is the one left 13:10 "There is another." 13:10 and qp is a mysterious player who only appeared on the tourneys 13:10 <@luxidream> qp? 13:10 jonadab lol 13:10 he did a full mony 13:10 go yoda 13:11 full monty 13:11 <@luxidream> yeah I don't know how to play paci lol 13:12 <@luxidream> well, right now I am looking more towards my speedrun goals, because they are less grindy than ascending 53 times in one month 13:13 Forget the month, ascend 53 times in one week and call it a day. 13:13 well you did 3 ascension on a day, right? 13:14 if you do that for a full month, you can beat zipcode 13:14 there aren't any levelport traps in the valley afaik 13:14 aw man poor a ttie 13:14 she is sleepytimes 13:14 imma drink some more i guess 13:15 sleep seems an enjoyable state after such a night 13:16 yes 13:16 purple worm #2 - Status of attie (neutral): Level 17 HP 118(118) AC -6, tame. 13:16 gege 13:17 @luxidream qp also did 11-conduct in devnull 2013 13:17 they get not enough apprechiation 13:18 <@luxidream> wow :0 13:18 they should be listed on notable players 13:21 and the full monty in 2012 13:21 @luxidream well then my friend you have time until june to learn paci 13:21 to do full monty wbo which would place you next to marvin :D 13:21 stth description is incorrect now under 'notable players' 13:22 yes 13:22 should we list stroller there too btw 13:22 imma change the articles a bit 13:23 actually i am too drunk, i will do it tomorrow 13:23 luxis entry needs to be extended a bit 13:23 and stth's entry needs to be adjusted 13:24 also nht's runs are exactly TAS runs, but they were fixed seed runs 13:24 aren't* 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Sam Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a katana named Sníckersnee on an altar, on T:3254 13:26 when i will become a millionaire or so i will dedicate my time to nethack again 13:26 ;) 13:27 hah the spell failure percentage for wearing armor as a wizard is worse than I thought 13:27 starts at 20% extra failure at lvl 1 and goes up 10% per level 13:28 I dont think a robe helps with this 13:31 i thought robe never helped with body armor 13:31 but only with helmets and the like 13:33 <@Tone> nooodle, stenno: Yes the aklys has to be wielded when you throw it for it to return 13:33 <@Tone> They are excellent ranged weapons now since they don't consume ammunition 13:33 right 13:35 <@Tone> stenno: Wait, so do you no longer get at least 6 additional speed every turn while very fast (extrinsic speed)? 13:35 <@Tone> O 13:35 <@Tone> whoops, disregard O 😄 13:36 <@Tone> I'm pretty sure I was able to reliably predict double-actions during a recent game using that knowledge, but maybe it was just a coincidence 13:36 yeah it was new to me too 13:36 but nooodle pointed it out 13:36 O 13:36 <@Tone> :D 13:37 nope robe doesnt help 13:37 damn you lorimer thats harsh heh 13:37 stenno in vanilla a robe helps with spell casting failure rates across the board regardless of what armor you're wearing 13:37 oh spork 13:37 lorimer added some special handling for wizards and body armor 13:37 oh ok 13:38 wait but isn't robe a body armor slot in spork? 13:38 no 13:38 is cloak slot 13:38 maybe i am mixing it up with another variant 13:38 ok 13:38 i dunno how they do things in the future, but here robes are cloaks 13:38 was it slash'em? 13:38 lol 13:38 heh no idea 13:40 slash'em has robes in the body armour slot 13:44 that was it then 13:45 variant paranoia 13:48 really damn 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5646 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:1871 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8000 14:33 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 7625 points, T:2631, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf lord 14:39 my charisma is 4.... that's really hideous 14:39 pug-fugly 14:39 Pets should run from your visage. 14:40 i used to think charisma did affect how well pets followed me, but that was because my fast characters were always ugly 14:41 yo momma ugly 14:45 "yo momma so ugly, the local brothel pays her not to come around at night"? 15:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:01 * attie was paralyzed for a few turns there but survived that attempt on her life 15:02 some of that booze must've been cursed >.> 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 631476 points, T:32504, killed by Vlad the Impaler 15:06 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed wand of polymorph", on T:39160 15:07 oooh someone found out vlad isnt a pushover anymore 15:07 :/ 15:09 heh, reminds me of a recording I once had, called "The Last of the Red Hot Mammas". It contained the line: I was so drunk last night I slept with my husband. He was so drunk, he left a 20 on the dresser. I was so drunk, I took it. 15:11 * elenmirie_ is just back from the pub across the street 15:11 if you leave a 20 on my dresser i'll take it 15:12 yeah, but you're a pushover! :D :D 15:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:13 [hdf-us] [un] jailbird (Con Vam Fem Cha), 16098 points, T:9304, petrified by a cockatrice 15:14 I can't play my nethack game right now. I'm too drunk, and I'll splat. 15:14 for the team 15:14 It's the best real vegan wizard I've had! Don't want to splat. 15:15 stomping around in crystal plate mail, gauntlets of power and a small shield I got off a valk 15:15 and a wished-for helm of brilliance 15:27 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 15:27 lol elenmirie_ 15:28 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:28 we should hold an annual weekend tournament called 'DrunkHack' 15:28 play any variant you want, doesnt matter 15:28 only rule is in that 48 timespan, if you play you must be drunk 15:28 48 hr 15:29 How do you inferce drunkenness 🤔 15:29 *enforce 15:29 score takes into account not just ascensions (if thats even possible) but your chatter in IRC which is mandatory 15:29 yes! 15:30 we can enforce by linking a breathalyzer to your terminal 15:30 drunken rants de rigeur (or however you spell that) 15:30 or 15:30 Presumably SLEX is banned since there is no difference between playing SLEX and playing SLEX while drunk 15:30 you go online live via and consume alcohol with others watching 15:31 slex would be 'AcidHack' tournament 15:31 must play while on LSD 15:31 oh wait 15:32 idealy, DrunkHack would be a LAN party 15:32 ... 15:32 oh man... 15:32 i just had an Idea™ 15:32 move over worldcon 15:32 say hello to drunkhack 15:33 Drinking game 15:33 Every time you find a !oBooze, you drink it in-game and irl 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 10023 points, T:9295, killed by a leocrotta 15:39 * elenmirie_ has two shot glasses that say "Ooph! That tastes like liquid fire!" 15:40 and they are totally coming to Dublin with me. 15:40 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 15:41 heh 15:42 green print on smoky glass 15:43 further evidence that nethack is a way of life 15:43 lol 15:45 PavelB: woe betide if you get the Wine King's Gnome Cellar! 15:52 heh, I've played slex while drunk before! 15:53 s/played/coded/; 15:53 no surprises there 15:53 The Stoned Guest 15:53 (by Mozart) 15:58 * jonadab seems to recall a reference to that on some PDQ Bach album or another. Might've been _A Little Nightmare Music_. 15:59 i'm looking at an invisible stalker inbetween two apes 15:59 YEY 15:59 oh, yes, it's PDQ Bach. 15:59 \o/ 15:59 woot! 16:00 The trouble is, how can you get weirder than the actual finale to Don Giovanni? Even PDQ Bach was a bit challenged by that! 16:06 Heh. 16:09 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:39645 16:10 gogogo K2! 16:10 weee 16:10 wheee! 16:12 I have attie and stenno with me 16:12 attie is lvl 21 purple worm, stenno is lvl 49 16:12 It just made me think of this very funny WWII song (you know what they mean when they say, oui, oui...) 16:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSSBQWbF7R8 16:13 The three little French piggies that said Oui oui oui all the way home? 16:13 are they drunk, K2? 16:13 Because they would be 16:14 I have to go eat toad in the hole right now. When I say, have to, I mean... yummy scrummy! 16:14 Made with real toad 16:15 well of course 16:15 drunken purple worm 16:15 Better than that is Shepherd's Pie - made with real shepherd! 16:15 new nethack monster 16:15 hallu! 16:16 "You are a spy!" "No, no, I'm a shepherd." "Aha! A shepherd spy!" 16:17 Is "Toad in the Hole" one of those disturbingly British cuisine items that have nothing to do with their names, like Welsh rabbit, spotted dick, black pudding, etc.? 16:18 -!- nahfoo6 has joined #hardfought 16:18 jonadab: 'rarebit', and yes - it's sausages in batter 16:18 ... hang on, black pudding is a pudding and it's black 16:18 It's not a pudding. It's a sausage. 16:18 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:40034 16:19 Blood sausage, no less. 16:20 Sausage and pudding are not even remotely similar cuisine categories. 16:21 Pudding is sweetened thickended milk and comes in flavors like chocolate, vanilla, butterscotch, and pistachio. 16:21 jonadab: I'd quote the first two paras of Wikipedia [[pudding]] but it says it as well as I could - a black pudding is as much a pudding as a steak and kidney pud is 16:21 ... and "pudding" also means any kind of dessert 16:22 Only in England. 16:22 The term is much more specific on this side of the pond. 16:22 jonadab: And in the rest of the UK and bits of the Commonwealth, which is quite a lot of the English-speaking world. 16:22 Also, anyone who classifies blood sausage as dessert, needs to have his head examined. 16:23 I don't think anyone classifies blood sausage as dessert, so... 16:26 * jonadab is not sure whether to be more relieved at that last statement, or confused, given how it's at odds with previous statements. 16:26 Nom nom 16:26 It's not at odds with previous statements - "pudding", like many words, can mean more than one thing. 16:28 Three things 16:28 Tri-speak 16:31 -!- nahfoo6 has left #hardfought 16:35 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:40319 16:36 ^ stenno just ate Baalzebub 16:36 hahaha 16:36 That really should give him indigestion. 16:37 crap i just drown attie 16:37 went downstairs, too much water surrounding stairwell 16:37 lucky i didnt lose stenno 16:38 Stenno bites Juiblex. Stenno swallows Juiblex. "Burrrrp!" 16:38 EPI: harming a pet makes your other pets hostile. 16:39 well technically i didnt harm it 16:39 killing counts as harming. 16:39 it was just unlucky and came down on a water tile 16:39 <[Demo]6> in dnh that doesnt livelog 16:39 <[Demo]6> if you digest a unique monster 16:49 lol damn 16:49 stenno stepped on a level teleporter 16:50 by the time i find him, he'll be an untame lvl 49 purple worm 16:55 maybe not. he ate a lot didn't he? 16:55 EPI: when a pet steps on a trap, its tameness gets reset. 16:55 if rodney isn't awake then you can find him before he goes feral 16:56 well you can even if rodney's awake, it's just a lot less fun 16:56 YASI: a bohsplosion is so loud, it can wake Rodney from anywhere in the dungeon. 16:57 and summon demogorgon 16:59 Status of hothraxxa (lawful): Level 19 HP 143(143) AC -13, tame. 16:59 ^ silver dragon 17:00 K2: You. Drowned. Attie. 17:00 BASTARD! 17:01 :( 17:02 redeem yourself, mortal! 17:08 but... but... 17:09 ok we're off to the party. happy new year all if we dont make it back before midnight your/our time 17:09 \o/ 17:09 <[Demo]6> yeehaw 17:10 hap-hap-happy New Year! 17:10 just get drunk, Attie won't be up early tomorrow anyway to know what you did to her 17:11 all that dragonfruit vodka will take its toll 17:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:28 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 17:28 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 17:40 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 17:40 * raisse is back 17:40 we watched Die Another Day which is arguably the most absurd James Bond film ever 17:40 but it has HALLE BERRY 17:41 who I have a bit of a crush on 17:46 I quite liked the one where the villian's a thinly disguised Murdoch... Tomorrow Never Dies? 17:46 I think so, yes 17:47 my favourite is probably On Her Majesty's Secret Service 17:48 (but that's because I have an even bigger crush on Diana Rigg) 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 840 points, T:3136, killed by a wererat 17:51 Conversely, innocent that I am, I don't have a crush on Michelle Yeoh (or Pierce Brosnan) 17:54 no, me neither (though Michelle Yeoh is kind of hot) 17:54 not pierce brosnan *shudder* 17:54 I don't fall for bad boys 17:55 all other james bonds are better, even daniel craig 17:56 <@luxidream> K2: called it lol 17:59 Happy New Year 2019 from Germany! ♥ 18:03 and from the Nehterlands! 18:03 and I can actually spell that, Netherlands 18:03 I'm not *that* drunk (just drunk enough) 18:03 <[Demo]6> nice 18:04 <[Demo]6> its not even time to drink here yet 18:04 <[Demo]6> by my judgements 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 633 points, T:1991, killed by a rock mole 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a credit card, on T:17439 18:08 lol that's a nice thing to read 18:09 [Demo]6: where are you? (i.e. what timezone?) 18:09 :) 18:09 here it's about 10 minutes past midnight on January 1, 2019 18:09 Eh, the Sun's over the yardarm _somewhere_. (I have a special mobile yardarm) 18:10 that'll be on the other side of the world then 18:10 like australia 18:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: good night, and happy new year 2019! *bundlebundlebundle*] 18:19 * raisse now lives in the future as well 18:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:42 <[Demo]6> the good one 18:42 <[Demo]6> the one where its 6:42 18:43 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 18:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Law), 40846 points, T:11496, killed by an invisible stalker 18:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Ice Vam Mal Cha), 3263 points, T:2137, killed by something while blind 19:02 <@riker> suggestion: boomerangs are now shuriken skill 19:07 epi: each polearm has its own skill to train 19:11 Good patch idea: get rid of almost all the stupid polearms 19:12 Fourk did. 19:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 4038 points, T:3544, killed by reverting to unhealthy doppelganger form 19:19 Happy New Year! 19:20 We're in the future now too 19:27 happy new year all 19:29 <@riker> @Demo why does detect treasure do literally nothing in ndnh 19:29 <@riker> i'm a basic skill hlf mal mystic 19:29 <@riker> it's just consuming pw but not actually showing anything it's just a sink of power 19:30 <[Demo]6> wait its broken 19:30 <[Demo]6> premptivelty blamig nero :P 19:30 <[Demo]6> or wait chris 19:30 <[Demo]6> idk probably related to whoever had the bad marauders map fix 19:31 <@riker> i'm like 55% certain that wasn't me 19:31 <@riker> but yeah no it's horribly broken it does nothing 19:31 <[Demo]6> i know it wasnt u 19:31 <@riker> obj det potions work fine 19:31 <@riker> as does gold detection 19:31 <@riker> demo: I broke pets horribly but it seems like they work fine for everybody but me 19:31 <@riker> I think ndnh includes this but I'll test later 19:32 <[Demo]6> no i didnt take any of your pet shit 19:32 <@riker> oh good 19:32 <[Demo]6> cause i know its all so fucked up 19:32 <[Demo]6> that im afraid of it 19:32 <[Demo]6> im surprised detect treasure doesnt crash tbh 19:32 <@riker> fake and gay but ok 19:33 <[Demo]6> im actually pretty curious why detect treasure spell doesnt work... 19:33 <@riker> yeah I'm as well 19:33 <@riker> it's something in the spell bit at least 19:33 <@riker> since other obj det works fine 19:33 <@riker> (including potions) 19:38 <[Demo]6> maybe its spell overloading, i kind of forgot i ever did that 19:52 <@perikl> Sex Dating > http://discord.amazingsexdating.com 19:53 <@strangefella> oh hey a bot 19:54 <[Demo]6> a bot in a bot 19:54 <[Demo]6> in a bot 19:54 <[Demo]6> on my end 19:54 <@strangefella> hmmmm 19:58 <@riker> demo did you nerf spbk of ID 20:01 <@Tone> @Mod ^ 20:01 <@Micmas> done 20:01 <@Micmas> also banned, if anyone wants to weep 20:02 <@Micmas> man these bots are damn annoying that's the third one in the past few days 20:02 <@Micmas> well, second one in this hour 20:02 <@Tone> yeah :/ 20:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1692 points, T:2200, killed by a dingo 20:07 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 663 points, T:450, killed by a panther 20:11 <@riker> demo waht did you do to n'kai 20:11 <@riker> did you just axe all of the outlands in favor of n'kai and randomize that? 20:11 <@riker> nope you just made the portal link to the middle I see 20:13 <@luxidream> how broken is ndnh rikersan? 20:14 <@riker> uh it's surprisingly stable actually 20:14 <@riker> like 20:14 <@riker> more stable than dnh 20:14 <@riker> and demo has mostly just added acu and lokoban for weird changes 20:14 <@riker> the monk buff is nice though I havne't actually used any of it so far despite being a mid-game post-quest monk rn 20:14 <@riker> the spear change is very cool 20:14 <@riker> I like it 20:18 Wow so much backscroll. All the good conversations happen at like 3am my time. Happy New Year for everyone who's finally made it :) 20:19 Nice selfies too! I had no idea nethack players were such a good looking bunch ;) 20:24 K2: I've had some issues with my dnethack game. It's done the things where it randomly deletes levels out of the save again. I had to resotre from an old save, and lost some progress. Got it back to just before where I was up to when it broke, but I think I have a good save now. 20:31 so this just happened across the street: https://i.imgur.com/PQ2obnz.png https://i.imgur.com/H6keyaz.png https://i.imgur.com/HMvvQqL.png https://i.imgur.com/Chlym1i.png 20:32 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 6123 points, T:2749, killed by a vampire bat 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 390 points, T:1399, killed by a bat 20:34 just found my own bones but i'm still not powerful enough to kill the aleax of ptah 20:35 Pinkbeast: Fourk keeps the dwarvish mattock (which players usually don't think of as a polearm), lance (which has jousting to make it distinct), and three other polearms. 20:35 I have contemplated getting rid of two of those other three, but haven't quite done that yet.\ 20:36 you can pound with a mattock? 20:36 If I did that, It'd probably be halberd that I'd keep, since that's the one people have heard of. 20:37 hothraxxa: I don't think so. 20:37 The code kind-of-sort-of groups it with the polearms in objects.c, but it doesn't behave like the other ones. 20:37 (Mattock, I mean.) 20:37 <@riker> demo: the blast of sleep gas bouncing in a dark corner and bouncing back at me segfaults 20:38 I didn't remove mattock because it didn't seem redundant. 20:38 Same with lance. 20:38 mattock is a polearm? I never knew that. 20:39 Besides lance and halberd, the other polearm a lot of people (who don't memorize D&D source books) have actually heard of, is the pike. Which NetHack doesn't have. 20:39 Nice fireworks pics hothraxxa :) 20:39 Tangles: Only kind-of-sort-of. 20:39 i don't think it is. i think the game lumps it in with polearms in some way 20:39 <@riker> @Demo https://www.dropbox.com/s/6b8d5cht0np2g9n/501segfault?dl=0 here's a savefile you can easily repro on 20:39 ty tangles 20:39 <@riker> just move down and #monster (I have sleep breath) 20:40 <@riker> aim it down-right into the corner with the unicorn, when it hits you you'll segfault 20:40 dude. they have products for that now 20:40 <@riker> or nvm just hit yourself at all lol 20:40 The dwarvish mattock is in the list of polearms in objects.c 20:41 ^^^ 20:41 Because of course it is. 20:41 :-) 20:41 <@riker> @Demo ok after further testing: "be hit with dragonbreath while having non-dragonbreath (maybe dragonbreath as well) reflection", I can repro with a red dragon but not with my amulet off 20:41 I mean, the rubber hose is a bludgeon by the same logic. 20:42 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 361 points, T:643, killed by a black pudding 20:42 Also, I kept one more polearm than I remembered keeping. Partisan, glaive, halberd, lucern hammer. 20:42 Really should shorten that list some more. 20:44 <@riker> @Demo I can't repro in dnh as well so it's just ndnh 21:04 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Neu), 3780 points, T:2961, killed by a rothe 21:05 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 6827 points, T:4474, killed by a dwarf 21:17 <@Demo> send me dms 21:17 <@Demo> I'm drunk for new years 21:18 -!- shadowcat22 has joined #hardfought 21:28 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1058 points, T:1998, killed by a pony, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:28 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 21:34 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:41 <@luxidream> @Demo drunk nethack stream? 21:42 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:42 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 794 points, T:1441, killed by a little dog 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1910 points, T:3825, killed by a giant beetle 21:46 <@Demo> nah 21:48 <[Demo]6> enjoying myself 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1326 points, T:2758, killed by a water moccasin 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 625 points, T:1622, killed by a giant bat 22:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 5734 points, T:3805, killed by a soldier ant 22:06 -!- kozet has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 362 points, T:827, killed by a gnome lord 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:268996 22:12 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 22:16 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 344 points, T:2834, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Val Dwa Fem Law), 682 points, T:1946, killed by a rabid rat 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Val Dwa Fem Law), 789 points, T:2103, killed by a soldier ant 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2774 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4205 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4329 23:17 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:23 <@carlarc> hey does anyone know any possible reasons my slash'em menucolors isn't working 23:23 <@carlarc> i turned the option on and put in the thingamobobs in the file itself but nothing changes 23:24 <@carlarc> also, happy new year 23:42 w a worm (worm that walks called Janet the Pirate Lord, a human-sized humanoid) 23:43 He was the greatest pirate worm-pirate-lord of all time, but his mates called him Janet. 23:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:48 That astral was easier than I thought. So much overpreparation! 23:50 Congrats. 23:50 Thanks Andrio