00:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 306 points, T:73, killed by a kitten 00:03 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 00:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 523 points, T:251, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted pony 00:10 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 802 points, T:535, killed by a human mummy 00:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:40506 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 252 points, T:1007, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping off a magical draught 00:44 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Cha), 29402 points, T:6346, killed by a magical blast 00:45 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 00:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 00:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1956 points, T:1830, killed by a gnomish wizard 01:04 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 01:44 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:46 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 01:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 02:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:06 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:07 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 02:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 02:26 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:28 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 02:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 02:31 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:32 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:05 go elenmirie_! 03:06 thanks raisse 03:14 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:16 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 03:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 04:00 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:02 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 04:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 04:07 ^ should be able to say what the object was, since the polyself and atheist ("by dropping a foo on an altar") can do it 04:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 66437 points, T:10466, burned by a fireball 04:16 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 04:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 04:17 The magic-absorbing blade probes the Woodland-elf! The Woodland-elf is confused. You feel less confused now. 04:18 conservation of confusion? 04:19 heh 04:22 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:23 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 05:26 -!- phinxy has quit [Read error: No route to host] 05:35 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 05:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:51 -!- LarienTelsanta has joined #hardfought 05:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelsanta] by ChanServ 05:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:02 is it acceptable to mention the continuation of my Let's Play here, like jonadab is doing for Nethack Fourk? Let's Play SLEX: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/lets-play-slashem-extended-a-nethack-fork.723346/page-47#post-22299440 :) 06:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:37 -!- dewz has joined #hardfought 06:45 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:00 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:02 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:12 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:20 LarienTelsanta yeah sue 07:20 sure 07:22 :) 07:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:54 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:55 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 07:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 08:15 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:17 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 08:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 08:19 morning 08:20 Chris__ANG... lets put 3.16.1 on the server. we'll shake out a lot more bugs that way 08:20 i feel weird, havent updated dnethack in forever 08:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:29 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 08:44 wooo go elenmirie_ 08:55 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 08:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 08:57 [hdf-us] [slshm] thiefwriter (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3460 points, T:2346, killed by a watch captain 09:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:10 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 09:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:36 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 09:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 09:46 YASD 09:46 D: 09:46 rip 09:46 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has joined #hardfought 09:47 got mysterious-forced back to Juiblex level, was so irritated that I just started moving without putting my levi ring on, and then there was a boulder in the way so I couldn't get out of the water 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:23817 09:48 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:49 ahhh 09:49 yeah the mysterious force sucks. And juiblex's level sucks 09:53 heh. i'll sign that 09:54 my wife's machine has 3 10T seagate 7200 rpm bulldogs. they're running at 28-31°C 09:54 oops 09:56 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:57 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 09:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 10:07 [hdf-us] [slex] thiefwriter (Fen Nor Mal Neu) killed Nightshade, Farmer Maggot's cousin, on T:2605 10:10 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:11 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 10:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 228 points, T:501, killed by an incubus 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:47, killed by a water demon 10:47 [hdf-us] [fh] Nadar (nadar) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 23889 points, T:953, killed by a dart 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] Karnak (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 187528 points, T:44704, killed by a death ray 10:54 <@LuXmas> !who 10:54 @LuXmas: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] Karnac [nh362] thiefwriter [slex] nadar [fh] amelie [xnh] | [hdf-eu] Dewzmint [nh362] Raisse [nh362] elenmirie [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Karnak (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 32 points, T:26, caught himself in his own blast 11:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:01 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 11:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5994 11:13 sweet, my variant has a streamer! 11:13 (who is not tone) :P 11:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 7101 points, T:3975, killed by a raven 11:13 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 11:14 <@LuXmas> amelie 11:15 yeah I am watching 11:15 <@LuXmas> I mean I streamed your variant before lol 11:15 worth noting that vanilla merged in that leprechaun message from xnh 11:16 <@LuXmas> it was also present in nh4 before xnh 11:16 <@LuXmas> but I hadn't realized that 11:16 did it come from nh4, or did it originate in fiqhack? 11:17 <@LuXmas> it's been in vanilla NH4 for as long as I can remember 11:18 well I got it from fiqhack :P 11:18 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:31 oh yeah. happy boxing day for those that celebrate it heh 11:32 large boxes for everyone! 11:35 xnethack still has soko luck penalties for things you can cheat with. The things I removed the penalty for were jumping, hurtling via thrown object while levitating, and throwing iron balls. 11:36 All of which are diagonal movement through boulders 11:37 <@LuXmas> oh, that's pretty niche 11:37 <@LuXmas> don't think I've ever needed to do that 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:21319 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:21319 11:38 smashing boulders, reading earth, squeezing, still have penalty. I think teleportation still oddly doesn't though 11:41 <@LuXmas> you should talk in chat :p 11:42 I don't have a twitch account 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 454 points, T:2119, killed by a giant mimic 11:44 [hdf-us] [slex] thiefwriter (Fen Nor Mal Neu), 11262 points, T:3369, killed by a monster (headphone penis) 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:21320 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 1925 points, T:2742, killed by a watch captain 11:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 7653 points, T:3369, killed by a snow ant 11:59 <@LuXmas> aosdict: can stone, silver, etc chests still be destroyed by blunt weapon forcing 12:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:01 yes 12:01 I didn't think of that, good point 12:02 stone ones could still break 12:02 and then of course the potions shatter from the rocks crumbling out of the lid, etc etc 12:03 aaaand oof 12:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu), 40564 points, T:11147, killed by a death ray 12:04 <@LuXmas> ouchie ouch 12:04 that's one of the things I still need to get around to fixing 12:04 -!- Chris__ has joined #hardfought 12:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__] by ChanServ 12:04 <@LuXmas> I think wands balance patch has its own problems, but you have another solution? 12:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:07 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:09 [hdf-us] [slex] thiefwriter (Ass Dee Fem Law), 450 points, T:635, killed by a monster (gnome comrade) 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) genocided class h, on T:22279 12:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:12 @luxidream removing death rays entirely 12:13 or, possibly, changing them all to disintegration rays (not instadeath if wearing armor/shield) 12:13 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 12:13 I don't particularly want to implement the wands balance patch as it has enough criticisms that it's not a good enough solution 12:18 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:21 <@LuXmas> actually, I don't see anyone wielding mirrors in xnh 12:22 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Ice Gno Fem Neu), 146 points, T:238, killed by a bat 12:24 <@LuXmas> it partially mitigates the "midgame but no instadeath protection" problem 12:25 <@LuXmas> the problem is that mirrors will shatter if you melee something with them 12:25 <@LuXmas> so it's extremely annoying to micromanage 12:26 YASI: make monsters with wands of death as accurate as imperial stormtroopers. That oughta fix the instadeath problem. :P 12:31 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Ice Gno Fem Neu), 2550 points, T:876, killed by a magical blast 12:35 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:35 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has joined #hardfought 12:36 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:36 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 12:44 -!- Chris__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:44 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2755 points, T:1200, killed by a dingo 12:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:45 -!- Chris__ has joined #hardfought 12:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__] by ChanServ 12:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 507 points, T:866, killed by a shotgun shell 12:51 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 12:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 12:54 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:06 -!- Chris__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:06 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 13:07 -!- Chris__ has joined #hardfought 13:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__] by ChanServ 13:11 -!- remirol has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 13:12 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 13:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 13:15 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1956 points, T:2366, killed by a recluse spider 13:22 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 644 points, T:993, killed by a jackal 13:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:24 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 3134 points, T:2321, killed by an orc-captain 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:24666 13:27 -!- Chris__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28 Poes steps reluctantly over 2 uncursed +2 darts. 13:28 I went "wtf?" but it turned out there was a potion underneath so now I know the potion is cursed 13:29 -!- Chris__ has joined #hardfought 13:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__] by ChanServ 13:29 yes, it always uses the item on top of the stack 13:30 in that message, at least 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "the +3 greased holy burning grayswandir", on T:45491 13:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:48 -!- Chris__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50 -!- Chris__ has joined #hardfought 13:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__] by ChanServ 13:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3190 points, T:2061, killed by a baby silver dragon 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "the greased holy burning eye of the aethiopica", on T:45530 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "the greased holy burning eye of the aethiopica", on T:45532 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "the greased holy burning eye of the aethiopica", on T:45533 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "the greased holy burning eye of the aethiopica", on T:45533 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "the greased holy wand of polymorph of spinach", on T:45545 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 20 points, T:128, killed by a water demon 14:00 lol nooodle did you eventually get the Eye 14:02 <@carlarc> what are these wishes 14:02 <@carlarc> wand of polymorph of spinach 14:02 anything other than a valid item name gets discarded 14:02 he's just mucking about with the wish parser 14:03 you can wish for tins of spinach, but also anything else of spinach and it doesn't do anything 14:03 <@carlarc> amazing 14:03 also "burning eye of the aethiopica" (since you can wish for burning candles, potions of oil) 14:04 the big "gotcha" is: don't wish for a +3 magic marker. That will get you a magic marker (0:3) since charges == enchantment. That doesn't get discarded like the rest 14:07 shivan, yes, got it on the 4th wish -- was the third artifact generated in the game 14:07 niiice 14:07 i just really like the eye 14:07 it's pretty great 14:08 -!- Chris__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10 stupid ascension trick: use self-conversion (or HoOA as a neutral) and many, many wishes to ascend with every quest artifact 14:10 -!- Chris__ has joined #hardfought 14:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__] by ChanServ 14:10 ...probably not viable now that pudding farming is RIP 14:11 @carlarc also see https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2110 :P 14:11 and #2534 14:11 <@carlarc> you can werewolf farm now i think 14:12 <@carlarc> not patched yet 14:12 can still demon farm, wonder if that's a viable way to scum 14:12 <@carlarc> or so the wiki says 14:12 <@carlarc> or death farm? can you wish in astral 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (cockatrice), on T:1067 14:12 demons aybe, deathf amring is out as is anything based on resurrected/"cloned" monsters 14:13 you can wish in astral but Death not dropping things would be the issue 14:13 weres don't resurrect or clone 14:13 also harder to keep him in place with the new monster-displacement mechanic 14:13 <@carlarc> werewolf spamming is based on the monsters they call for 14:13 you can still keep him in place with boulders 14:13 ahhhh I see 14:14 lol 14:14 my clothes? 14:14 lol 14:14 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:15 winsalot was being seduced into taking off *our* clothes 14:15 amy is a menace 14:16 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 14:16 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 14:16 lately whenever i get a water demon i try to leave it alive if possible 14:16 for later water demon duplication 14:17 maybe in a regular game it wouldn't matter, but in a pacifist game it could be a huge boon 14:17 <@LuXmas> aosdict: would you consider a spinach object material that is only wishable? 14:18 object materials aren't wishable in xnethack so... 14:18 anyway we already have the VEGGY material 14:18 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1202 points, T:2612, killed by Ms. Klodzko, the shopkeeper 14:18 yes the EPI would be wishing for "of spinach" turns it into VEGGY 14:28 <@Winsalot> Wait, wood nymph! There's a psion named winsalot hiding under a wagon! wow 14:38 Dual wield vorpal+silver sabre, or grayswandir+longsword? 14:39 On one hand, decapitations! On the other grayswandir. 14:40 I'd go Grays + longsword. 14:41 Or Grays + silver saber, if you have higher skill that way. 14:41 Grays does double damage vs absolutely everything, and that's not to be taken lightly. 14:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:41 Enchant it to +7, and the doubling make sthat effectively +14. 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 649 points, T:2454, killed by a jackal 14:43 <@Tone> Yeah, Grayswandir wins that easily 14:43 that's how I was leaning. 14:44 I'm a valk so I'm going to make use of my higher longsword skill. 14:48 Higher longsword skill suggests vorpie + long sword; but no, the double damage from Grays easily trumps that. 14:48 Well, once you get it enchanted it does. 14:49 If you haven't got enchant weapon yet, you might wait and switch to grayswandir later, when you do. 14:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:52 I'm solidly enchanted. 14:54 [hdf-us] [dyn] beefman (Luxidream) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 665086 points, T:50982, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dynahack/dumplog/2018-12-26%2014_54_19%2C%20beefman-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20ascended.txt 14:56 <[Demo]6> nice beefy ascension lux 14:57 tourist ascension, damn 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:47167 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 647 points, T:2074, killed by a giant ant 14:58 <[Demo]6> i actually like dyna 15:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:02 crap. Due to a keyboard error I've found myself stuck in lava. How do I get out on a no-teleport level? 15:03 <@LuXmas> demo: porkman’s evil twin 15:03 <@LuXmas> like earlyaccessgorgon 15:03 bouquet can you freeze it? 15:03 wait! Lord Surtur's level is teleport friendly according to the wiki! 15:04 almost had a cardiac arrest there! 15:04 well surtur himself keeps teleporting around everywhere 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:740 15:07 <[Demo]6> hmm, gop are kinda strong early on 15:08 PavelB: so do the demon lords and their levels are no-tele 15:09 oh til 15:09 YANI: after Asmodeus dies all the walls become diggable. 15:10 <[Demo]6> +3 tohit and +6 dmg is a lot 15:10 <[Demo]6> kind of the difference between hellish mines and easy mines 15:14 bouquet: well, the *wrong* thing to do if you're surrounded by lava is read a uncursed or blessed scroll of earth. Hello, getting hit 8x by splashing lava. 15:14 I considered it... 15:15 but I think the realism of such an act would have turned me into a fossil. 15:15 <@LuXmas> wand of cold would have worked 15:16 <@LuXmas> incidentally why do you have two sources of magic resistance bouquet? 15:16 Does lava actually splash? 15:16 if a boulder falls into it, yes 15:16 I had no idea 15:16 Not sure if this is if you push one into it, or only when you scroll of earth it from the ceiling 15:17 <@LuXmas> aosdict: a giant throwing a boulder at you over lava also causes splash damage 15:17 well I've pushed boulders into lava sometimes and didn't notice it caused splashing 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Lord Surtur, on T:42811 15:17 <@LuXmas> you don't take splash damage by pushing a boulder in, only if it falls from a height 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:42817 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3021 15:26 back from vacation 15:26 <@luxidream> demo: you do remember the ordinary sokoprizes are in mine's end now right 15:26 <@luxidream> welcome home FIQ 15:27 <@Winsalot> ffs 15:27 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/527583323053096970/fucking_seriously.png 15:28 <@Winsalot> LarienTelsanta: Game told me to contact you 😃 ^ 15:28 jonadab: fiqhack has a bug fix for that timer bug 15:28 want me to track it down? 15:28 lmao 15:28 @Winsalot: ah that sometimes happens on dungeon level 13 15:28 <@luxidream> probably intended nastytrap effect 15:28 FIQ: Oh? 15:28 <@Winsalot> earthsahrk found me quite fast 15:28 FIQ: If it has the word "timer" in the commit message, I can probably find it. 15:29 I'll make a note to look when I get a few moments. 15:29 lights produce a similar crash 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 1273 points, T:1726, killed by a gnome 15:29 lights, the monster type? 15:30 That kind-of-sort-of half makes sense. 15:31 light sources of any kind has a structure in a level 15:31 similar to timers 15:31 <@Winsalot> LarienTelsanta: also any comments on occult master role and occult spells in general? 15:31 never really understood why 15:31 but yeah 15:31 @Winsalot: currently they suck, I'm planning to add more spells in future versions 15:33 hothraxxa: intelligent spellcasting made Rodney a bit too harsh yeah 15:33 so he can only double trouble once per resurrection in fh 15:34 there was also a matter of the synergy between turn undead and double trouble 15:34 -!- Chris__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34 I think someone at some point was fighting 4 Rodneys at once 15:34 which was the catalyst for the change 15:34 but it was bad even without that... problem 15:35 -!- Chris__ has joined #hardfought 15:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__] by ChanServ 15:35 EPI: Rodney always casts Double Trouble if he can; otherwise, if there's a Wizard of Yendor corpse or statue on the level, he tries to revive it. 15:35 Failing that, he summons nasties. 15:36 in fh, he always double troubles if he can 15:37 Yes, but you mitigated that by only letting him do it once per resurrection. The Evil Patch has no such restriction. 15:38 So if you kill one of him, the other will *always* Double Trouble, then revive the corpse. 15:38 Unless you kill them both at once, I guess. 15:39 Or kill him _before_ he can DT, but you'd have to be quite on the ball for that. 15:39 give him proper magic resist too since I always just "oh hi, FoD" 15:39 often he doesn't get a turn at all 15:39 EPI: The Wizard of Yendor should have *all* the resistances. Magic, petrification, everything. 15:40 And should generate with an amulet of reflection a lot of the time :-) 15:40 wtf is wrong with orc town 15:40 it sucks 15:40 how many more orcs and goblins are there 15:41 there's like a couple dozen or so, then a bunch more named ones on the deeper levels 15:41 <@luxidream> the most powerful wizard in hell 15:41 <@luxidream> sits naked in a completely enclosed and dark room 15:42 <@luxidream> !who 15:42 @luxidream: [hdf-us] Demo [dyn] every [nh362] Bartlem [nh362] Karnac [nh362] hypnotist [nh362] bouquet [nh362] samiam [nh362] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nh362] Dewzmint [nh362] oh6 [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:42 I guess we shouldn't ask what he gets up to in there with that vampire lord and hell hound 15:42 -!- Chris__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:44 I think he should spawn wearing clothing. At minimum, a robe or cloak. 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:43766 15:45 Maybe after I rebase on FIQHack, I'll give him a cloak of displacement a percentage of the time. That'd be fun. (FIQHack actually implements displacement for monsters.) 15:45 Other times he could have a robe, cloak of protection, or cloak of MR. 15:46 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:47 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 15:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:27504 15:53 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:44238 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:49170 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:49173 16:03 jonadab: i ascended a fourk orc wizard, and it seemed to me that power regen was op 16:03 i could spam mm and never worry about power even when i was carrying the amulet 16:04 and i had 0% fail for almost every spell even though i was wearing gauntlets of power 16:05 [hdf-us] [slshm] k2 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 414 points, T:1669, killed by a coyote 16:06 <@mtf> looks like the bots been going strong for a few days 16:06 <@mtf> that makes me happy 16:08 bot failure in 3... 2... 1... 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:44678 16:11 -!- dewz has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:49607 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 2826 points, T:2646, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:31 what's the reason there are so many tele scrolls in the late game? 16:33 bouquet, the mechanism is that intelligent monsters may get defensive items, and if you hit them hard enough they will die before they can use them 16:34 that's fair. It'd be nice if there was more variety, though. I don't need 25 tele scrolls by the time I enter gehennom! 16:35 scrolls of create monster are common as well, that way 16:36 they're not as common when speedrunning 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:50814 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:51167 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class R, on T:47034 16:47 jonadab: displacement wouldn't work well in a closed area such as the tower 16:47 hothraxxa: [backscroll] missed opportunity for "I ascended a fourc wizard" :P 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:48184 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:48233 16:52 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 4275 points, T:2429, killed by a giant ant 17:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2244 points, T:1835, killed by a watchman 17:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:53154 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53930 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53931 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:54450 17:26 FIQ: But the Wizard spawns in other locations too. 17:26 At least potentially. 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:29876 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:51574 18:03 can i kick items out of a shop? 18:03 i think i probably can't lol 18:04 I tried once shk got angry 18:04 well not angry 18:04 just demanded i pay 18:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] amelie (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 71 points, T:189, killed by a sewer rat 18:09 kool 18:17 -!- LarienTelsanta has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:28 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57907 18:34 <@carlarc> you can't 18:34 <@carlarc> hmmm 18:34 <@carlarc> i wonder what happens if you jump out of a shop 18:34 <@carlarc> gonna try that 18:35 <@carlarc> nice 18:35 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/527630475808997406/unknown.png 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:58017 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:58100 18:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 7647 points, T:3451, killed by a rope golem 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:58451 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:58460 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52897 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52898 18:55 Does tinned footrice instakill? 18:56 You mean if you eat it? Yes 18:56 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 18:58 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:59 cool :) 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:53796 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Ran Elf Fem Cha) murdered Sirius, her faithful little dog, on T:2013 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:56160 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:56894 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:56896 19:34 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2845 points, T:1982, killed by a rabid rabbit 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:57090 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:57383 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:57386 19:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 672 points, T:424, killed by a wand 19:41 <[Demo]6> wow, cleared minetown with my starting items 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Ran Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4842 19:42 <[Demo]6> err, priest and watch 19:43 <[Demo]6> can you kill your quest leader to get into the quest in dyna? 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:60168 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:60170 19:47 ah yes, the classic "BUC test on altar while wearing a ring of levitation and all my potions shatter" Love that 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:60428 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:60517 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:60520 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of taming", on T:59312 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 3172632 points, T:60642, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1545194336.nh361.txt 20:08 <@Tone> 'grats nooodle 😄 20:08 Go team @! 20:08 ty :) GGGG 20:08 i am one gnome away from all 5 gnome roles in a row 20:09 <@Tone> Nice 20:09 <@Tone> What's left? 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:59357 20:11 healer 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:59364 20:12 just need to resist the urge to play it like a paci 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30660 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:59372 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:60069 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:60158 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Menche (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 336 points, T:1355, killed by a falling rock 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:60238 20:36 <@Tone> nooodle: Cool, good luck! 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3336479 points, T:60300, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nh361/dumplog/1545511622.nh361.txt 20:37 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37 gee only 16 wishes that run. 20:38 gzzz 20:39 it's not my fault if the rng keeps giving me wands of wishing! 20:39 gib :P 20:39 !role 20:39 Guthix: grunthack monk 20:39 !role 20:39 Guthix: nh13d tourist 20:44 <@Tone> grats bouquet 😄 21:01 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 21:10 thanks Tone! 21:12 <[Demo]6> is there any reason to use the long bow of diana in dyna? 21:13 somehow my valk ascensions were never counted by xd.cm. 21:13 so I had to do one. 21:16 ring of conflict = not good 21:16 kittens are pretty mean. 21:16 i forgot i was wearing a random uncursed ring 21:16 <@Tone> Guthix: They're great, you just have to be careful with them 😄 21:16 not the first time that's happened to me 21:17 i should learn eventually lmao 21:17 first time ever playing a monk XD 21:17 <@Tone> The "wear-test after BUC-testing on an altar then get killed by the priest" is a classic 21:17 which alignment is most fun as monk? 21:18 <@Tone> They all play pretty similarly 21:18 kool 21:18 <@Tone> Neutral is fun if you want to wish for the staff of aesculapius 21:18 <@strangefella> Monk's quest is pretty easy too 21:18 i'd imagine chaotic would be easiest then for gehennom? 21:18 <@Tone> I lean towards chaotic because I don't like the mysterious force 21:18 ^ 21:18 <@strangefella> (monk's quest is ungodly hard) 21:18 wiki says i should do castle before quest as monk lol 21:19 <@Tone> Yeah monks have the scariest quest nemesis 21:19 <@strangefella> hell, complete gehennom too before the nemesis 21:19 though i normally do that anyhow cause lvl 14 takes ages to reach 21:19 <@strangefella> i'd say playing as a monk in slash em is easier than a monk in vanilla 21:19 <@Tone> Guthix: I do the castle before the quest with almost every character 21:19 <@strangefella> the potion of amnesia stuff sucks though 21:19 scare monster works on the nemesis for monk now though, apparently 21:19 <@Tone> The only time you don't is if you can't handle the castle yet and you need something to "unlock" it 21:19 so i could just punch him to death? 21:20 <@Tone> Yes that is true Guthix 21:20 <@Tone> Scare monster makes him a wimp 21:20 kool 21:20 i like punching things :D 21:20 <@Tone> There are a few other tricks too 21:20 hmm? 21:23 <@Tone> Boulder forts, levitating over lava, being strong as hell already 21:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 26295 points, T:9500, killed by a vampire mage 21:26 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:27 cool cool 21:43