00:06 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:06 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 00:08 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Client Quit] 00:16 yes, orcs eat orcs all the time 00:20 as an orc, i enjoy the taste of orcish flesh 00:30 rofl ^^ 00:32 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:36 !rng AoR BoH 00:36 eraserhead: AoR 00:36 Noooo! 8^P 00:37 hahaha - rng was wrong - got my BoH 8^) 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:26246 00:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3804 points, T:3629, killed by a rock piercer 00:45 if a cockatrice drops an egg, is it guaranteed to be a c egg or it's still random? 00:46 not guaranteed. Could just be a random death drop. 00:46 but likelky. 00:46 ic - ty 00:56 -!- moony has quit [Killed (Sigyn (BANG!))] 00:56 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 00:58 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law) killed Nellie Bly, on T:28024 01:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 856 points, T:1701, killed by a little dog 01:15 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 426 points, T:1291, killed by a spore cloud 01:16 YANI: Increase piercer damage a lot, make their hit not versus your AC so that it just misses often, and make helms count for less, to account for the fact that they only get one real shot at you and need to make it count. 01:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 90 points, T:53, killed by a fox 01:26 !ping 01:26 eraserhead: Pong! 01:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1389 points, T:2352, killed by a dwarf 02:04 -!- dell30 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:24 For wishing purposes, when does the Quest artifact get generated? When I transport into the Quest or when I enter the level with the Quest nemesis? 02:28 !whereis tangles 02:28 Tangles: [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh]: (Pir Inc Mal Neu) T:44371 The Dispensary level: 15 02:30 Tangles: Since you're here, can you pull xnh, or can only K2 do that? 02:33 Technically, I can do it. 02:33 What are the changes? 02:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:41 eraserhead: When you enter the final level (the artifact is generates with the level) 02:42 Tangles: ty ^^ 02:43 this general store shopkeeper be selling m's - 11/44 spots are m's 8^P 02:45 I think I'll go castle-diving for the WoW before heading to the quest then... 02:48 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law), 672534 points, T:32358, killed by a monster (perjasi) 03:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:03 -!- LarienTelrunya is now known as LarienTelsanta 03:13 wow - T:3792 seems early for a death ray 03:14 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:21 Mm 03:21 I've had one of the Minetown Watchmen kill himself with a wand of death bounce 03:21 v.nice ^^ 03:23 talking about bounces, I had a YASD once by shooting a /oLightning at some tough mob at a 45 degree angle - it hit the corner and reflected back at me for an insta-death 8^P taught me to pay attention to reflections (esp without MR/reflection) 03:24 ok, I think this is a good time for a break (need to figure out a way around Titan on Medusa #2) - gn 03:25 -!- eraserhead has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:26 Don't zap rays at walls when you're riding either. 03:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:48 -!- bug_santa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:19 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law) killed the Great High Shaman of Kurtulmak, on T:3933 04:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:49 -!- Antichthon` has joined #hardfought 05:52 -!- Antichthon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:58 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:08 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:12 -!- Antichthon` has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:45 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Arc Hum Fem Law), 13840 points, T:489, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 08:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:3583 08:18 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Arc Hum Fem Law), 33600 points, T:1426, killed by a gnome king 08:24 -!- j has joined #hardfought 08:24 -!- j is now known as Guest49815 08:24 -!- Guest49815 is now known as rebatela 08:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5802 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10175 09:16 man, i always screw up weaponless with a pickaxe... 09:18 hmm, a wand of cancellation in a grunthack player monster's bag of holding 09:18 how does that get in there? :p 09:19 What happens if you upgrade a bag while there's stuff in it? 09:21 jilles: I could be wrong, but I don't think magical explosions ALWAYS occur when you put stuff in a BoH 09:21 at least in vanilla 09:22 rebatela: xnethack guards against breaking weaponless accidentally ;) 09:39 <@mistleTone> In vanilla the BoH explosions always happen, unless the item is in a few layers of sacks 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5038 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:14609 09:44 xNetHack updated (all servers) 09:44 thanks K2 09:44 PavelB: ^ alert fix 09:45 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Arc Hum Fem Law), 36400 points, T:1276, killed by a giant mimic 09:46 sorry didnt get it last night, went to bed early 09:47 had one of those headaches that wraps around your head 09:47 i dont think i drank enough water yesterday bleh 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:15319 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2607 points, T:5738, killed by a wolf 09:51 You are blasted by the huge wand of death named The Wand of Orcus' power! The huge wand of death named The Wand of Orcus evades your grasp! 09:51 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52 Well that seems unfair. 09:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4293 points, T:4245, killed by a gnome lord 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 4110 points, T:4477, killed by a bolt of cold 09:54 The silver eight-headed viperwhip named The Scourge of Lolth evades your grasp! 09:54 That's probably for the best. 09:55 fianlly 09:55 finally even. 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 helm of brilliance", on T:15600 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:15623 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:15623 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided disenchanter, on T:16297 10:02 i'm about to do something really dumb because this is the best start i've ever had lol 10:03 although i'm like 20 thousand turns in and no unihorn ... so weird when that happens 10:05 Odd to have seen no unicorns at all in that time 10:05 just coaligned 10:06 i might charm a monster and have them kill one? 10:07 ... or just arrange to have 5+ Luck beforehand, sacfesting it back if possible afterwards 10:08 Conveniently, a coaligned unicorn makes it easy to generate the Luck beforehand, if you don't have an altar :-) 10:18 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 362 points, T:711, killed by a little dog 10:34 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 573 points, T:1246, killed by a sewer rat 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10072 10:51 [hdf-us] [dyn] The Elvenping @luxidream (Luxidream) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 8106 points, T:17855, killed by a falling object 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:10217 11:14 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:25 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 11:26 -!- raisse is now known as Guest10025 11:26 -!- Guest10025 is now known as raisse 11:29 unblelievable. i finally gave in and killed a coaligned unicorn and immediately after i see a cross-aligned 11:30 The RNG snickers. 11:31 right? 11:31 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 11:31 lol. it's ok. i got my luck right back up, but stuff like that makes me hate and love this game at the same time 11:32 Vexingly you can't use the coaligned unicorn to recover your Luck after murdering it :-) 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:18838 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] shuhari (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2729 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:20760 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20962 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:21020 12:05 !tell K2 ugh, apparently porkman got a slex crash on hdf-eu. can you check whether there's a backtrace? ;) 12:05 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelsanta. 12:10 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] k2 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 11566 points, T:5433, killed by a vampire 12:13 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] WAND OF SPEED PLAYER (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 57537 points, T:10870, killed by a soldier ant 12:15 my journey to hong kong has started :o 12:19 currently in the train to berlin 12:21 -!- Araganor has joined #hardfought 12:25 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 12:31 Oooh, Hong Kong. 12:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a rock piercer, on T:3954 12:39 <@mistleTone> Nice stenno, have a great trip 😄 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4495 12:45 have fun stenno!! 12:45 oh he left lol 12:47 -!- Araganor has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 448 points, T:1907, killed by a hobbit 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5714 13:02 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:16 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:30 ok, so scrolls of scare monster don't really work against demogorgon 13:30 <[Demo]6> :( 13:30 they're cancelled very quickly 13:30 <[Demo]6> ahhh 13:32 luckily, a wand of teleportation does work 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4814 points, T:2364, killed by a rothe 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh4] WAND OF SPEED PLAYER (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 238536 points, T:28318, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-12-23%2018%3A39%3A45%2C%20WAND%20OF%20SPEED%20PLAYER-Val-Dwa-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 13:41 <@LuXmas> new record woot 13:41 <[Demo]6> skrt how fast 13:42 <@mistleTone> Nice lux, grats 13:42 <@mistleTone> What was your time? 13:42 <@LuXmas> 1:24:08 13:42 <@LuXmas> not bad considering the awful time I had in hell 13:43 <@LuXmas> also literally never found a pickaxe 13:43 <@mistleTone> I think you willed that one through your character name 😄 13:46 Is there a good "I've never played a roguelike before" guide anywhere 13:48 PavelB: I think most of the introductory materials for NetHack assume you've never played a roguelike before, actually. 13:48 Yeah but I'm having trouble finding anything other than the guidebook 13:48 And the guidebook is kinda lame 13:48 Unlike a lot of more recent roguelikes, which assume that you have. 13:49 congrats lux 13:51 PavelB: The guidebook and/or the in-game help can probably get you to the point where you are ready for Wiki articles like "Standard strategy" and "Why do I keep dying?" 13:53 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Standard_strategy 13:53 That article in particular is a pretty good place to send novices. 13:54 Thanks 13:55 <@mistleTone> hmm this article by the GKH dev is solid, PavelB: https://www.goldenkronehotel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tips 13:56 <@mistleTone> It gives generic roguelike tips before getting into GKH specific stuff 13:56 <@LuXmas> rebatela: thanks 😃 13:59 Yeah, a good chunk of that first section is applicable to NetHack. 13:59 Or a lot of other roguelikes too. 13:59 It's not 100% for all (e.g., the thing about stairs won't work in Brogue), but that's probably unavoidable. 14:00 PavelB: It would have to be pretty general to encapsulate *all* roguelikes. You would probably be able to get away with a fundamental assumption of specifically hack-and-slash roguelikes. 14:00 I'm talking about a nethack guide though 14:00 But not all roguelikes are hack-and-slash exploration 14:01 Just nethack for the absolute beginner 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13691 14:04 <@LuXmas> the main problem is learning controls, that takes far longer than it should 14:05 <@LuXmas> what would make it easier for beginners is figuring out what commands are used often and learning those. 14:06 <@LuXmas> maybe you could set up a keylogger to do this, but it would be hard to filter the extended commands from just the raw input 14:06 <@mistleTone> PavelB: Ah, I thought you actually wanted a generic roguelike guide. Yeah, the guidebook and wiki strategy articles are pretty good 14:07 <@mistleTone> I've seen this guide recommended as well, but I'm not familiar with it personally http://www.melankolia.net/nethack/nethack.guide.html 14:07 <@carlarc> YANI: a role that utilizes engraving as its main gimmick, carving runes on the ground that do different things 14:08 <@carlarc> engraving is annoyingly limited, its basically only for wand testing and elbereth in vanilla 14:08 <@Tmasher> That's a dNethack Binder 14:08 <@LuXmas> you mean every role in 3.4.3? 14:08 <@carlarc> yeah i got similar vibes from that but they dont engrave right? 14:08 <@carlarc> if they do whoops 14:09 <@LuXmas> they do, you have to engrave the sigils to bind the spirit 14:09 <@carlarc> oh damn 14:09 <@LuXmas> and they have to be under certain conditions for it to work 14:10 <@LuXmas> @mistleTone: "Samurai can fight with two weapons too and are strong warriors. They probably should start fighting with two weapons immediately to learn it. " 14:10 <@LuXmas> lol 14:10 <@mistleTone> hahaha 14:10 <@mistleTone> That's a little misleading 14:12 <@LuXmas> the role descriptions on that guide are not too great 14:13 <@LuXmas> the rest seems to be alright 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:45522 14:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:15 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:16 K2: u change host keys on hardfought.org? 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:45523 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23781 14:23 <@mistleTone> winny: Yes I think that happened around 2 weeks ago when the server was moved 14:23 ah 14:24 tbh been wrestling with the lack of sha256 hashes on the website, since ssh won't really output that unless you manually configure openssh to use md5 14:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:27 unfortunately sha256 won't go away :) 14:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:15509 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:24567 14:45 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:46 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 14:51 winny whats the issue? 14:51 K2: Message from LarienTelsanta at 2018-12-23 12:05 EST: ugh, apparently porkman got a slex crash on hdf-eu. can you check whether there's a backtrace? ;) 14:52 it's not important 14:52 humor me 14:53 -!- dewz has joined #hardfought 14:55 sadly my issue is important though; that crash happened seemingly out of nowhere so without a backtrace I have no idea what may have caused it 14:55 LarienTelsanta - https://termbin.com/9nx2 14:56 oh 14:56 i havent updated slex on eu or au yet 14:56 thanks K2! 14:56 is this related to antichons issue? 14:56 doesn't seem like it 14:56 but maybe it is 14:56 hmm, actually it might be 14:57 monster was apparently attacking him and it crashed in tmp += objects[otmp->otyp].oc_hitbon; 14:57 most probably otmp wasn't defined, so it might actually be the same bug 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:13045 14:58 K2: since openssh from 2015 the default digest format for fingerprints has been sha256 https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-6.8 - one has to manually configure openssh to print out the md5 hashes - they are not directly comparable so configuring openssh to print out md5 is the only recourse if sha256 isn't provided out of band 14:59 unfortunately putty seems to still use the old format, so i guess both are necessary? 15:00 lots of ppl use putty 15:00 me included 15:00 indeed, very good client 15:00 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:00 not sure if i have the real estate to display both in dgl 15:00 on the website, not a problem 15:01 not sure if this is worth, but sshfp might be nice to have 15:01 basically special dns records ssh host fingerprints 15:01 right 15:01 i don't think it is, because last time i read about it, openssh doesn't ask or use them by default 15:01 not sure if my dns host supports that. could look 15:02 LarienTelsanta i'll update au and eu servers here soon 15:02 K2: cool :) it might fix the error that Porkman had 15:02 i think simply using the md5 on dgl but including both on the website is a great start, probably good enough honestly 15:03 yeah 15:05 hopefully this'll avoid any sort of confusion via other openssh users 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] shuhari (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4293 points, T:5161, killed by a crocodile 15:05 (though i think most users just never check fingerpints (!)) 15:05 myself included 15:06 heh 15:07 winny just rescanned the site using SSL Labs 15:07 A+ 15:08 oh man, that's probably better than all my sites 15:08 both ipv4 and ipv6 15:08 excellent 15:08 https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=hardfought.org&s=2600%3a1f18%3a607c%3a4fcc%3af4ee%3a8b86%3a440b%3a6298 15:08 i am unheathily obsessed with ipv6 15:08 no such thing 15:09 i upgraded my modem/router here at the house specifically for ipv6 15:09 i am oddly disturbed that my rent's ADSL has no ipv6, nor does my cellular data 15:09 well and some other bits 15:09 but yeah ipv6 15:09 im testing my server (caddy) rn, hopefully it's not worse than a B 15:09 * stenno checks if the hotel bar has long island ice tea 15:10 iced* i guess 15:10 tbh biggest win for ipv6 is no nat 15:10 hopefully it's not too expensive :/ 15:10 end-to-end globally accessible addresses makes me so happy 15:10 winny: wasn't that the reason for ipv6 in the first place? 15:10 one of them 15:10 essentially, though there are other reasons that make ipv6 important 15:10 looks like my vps is a solid A 15:10 nice 15:11 https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=winny.tech&s=107.191.50.41 15:11 so a troll spawns next to me with this: a - the uncursed rustproof +8 Stormbringer. 15:11 whoa 15:11 on astral or where 15:11 fourk? 15:11 cost me two levels to get it 15:11 or what stupid variant are you playing 15:11 yeah fourk 15:11 K2: how much u pay in hosting these days 15:12 I don't think it's possible for a troll to spawn with that in vanilla. 15:12 stenno: challenge - order long island iced tea and drink it all within 3 min 15:12 esp not +8 15:12 lol 15:12 <@LuXmas> don't you get +11 and +12 stuff in fourk 15:12 looooong island 15:12 be like my mom and ask for tea at a bar, and get drunk because didn't realize it's not just iced tea 15:12 do it ;) 15:12 lol winny 15:12 hahah 15:12 i want to see if they have it in the first place 15:12 if they dont know how to make it, its easy 15:13 every bar *should* have all the ingredients 15:14 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:14 ugh, iced tea 15:14 not a fan 15:15 tbh not a fan of mixed drinks, rather just have something neat or beer or wine 15:17 yeah, me too 15:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:21 aw no long island iced tea 15:21 took gin tonic for now 15:22 +1 potion of Gin. 15:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:22 oh, long island iced tea is alcoholic, I didn't even know 15:22 wut 15:22 .... 15:22 so innocent 15:23 oh! no aosdict its ... no its fine 15:23 no alocohol in one 15:23 go ahead, drink up 15:23 i mean it says iced tea after all 15:23 K2 you are fake news 15:23 you sir are alternative facts 15:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:24 good day to you sir. I said good day! 15:24 hahahah 15:24 holy shit people we have white russian here 15:24 that will be the next one 15:25 oooh 15:25 stenno order a 'mind eraser' 15:25 caiprinha 15:25 there is something called 'zombie', is that like mind eraser 15:25 it sounds like it at least 15:25 speaking of booze, We're doing Betons for christmas. Becherovka and Tonic. 15:26 becherovka is for slavic people 15:26 that's what I hear. 15:26 large tumbler fill with ice, pour in this order - 1.5 oz vodka, 1ox kahula, fill rest with soda water, dont stir (it has to layer) 15:26 1oz 15:26 actually it's from czech republic, right? 15:26 ya. 15:26 i drank it there, pretty cool 15:26 then take 2 large staws and carefully put them to the bottom of the glass 15:26 and suck it up as fast as you can 15:26 Czech friend introduced it to me. It's a wintertime hit around the bouquet household. 15:26 mm caluha 15:26 lol 15:27 bouquet: neat 15:27 K2: imma just go for white russian instead 15:27 but 15:27 but... 15:27 white russian is love, even more love than caipirinha 15:27 grunt zombies are definitely mind erasers 15:27 You hear a shuffling noise 15:27 i hate grunt zombies 15:27 i love to hate them 15:27 they are... unique 15:28 you can't even drown the fuckers 15:28 Thank goodness they got rid of the dumb anti-booze laws in WA. We have an amazing local selection of divine spirits now. 15:29 what would an anti-booze law be 15:29 like prohibition or what 15:29 also, interestingly (probably a poorly conducted study) now that pot is legal fewer kids smoke it. So, Yay I guess. 15:29 we used to have state run liquor stores that were expensive and not well stocked. 15:30 nobody should smoke pot 15:30 vapourize that stuff 15:30 wow, state monopol in the usa 15:30 Now we have giant booze emporiums with amazing selections of fine spirits. Plus a great social safety net for drunks. 15:30 here's something i didn't know existed 15:30 It's like rainbows and unicorn farts up in this liberal paradise. 15:30 haha 15:31 Just need to keep the altar to Lord Bezos stocked with packing peanuts and incense or he gets angry. 15:35 winny - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/ - for US server, see if that matches up with what you can see publically 15:35 Slash'EM Extended updated (all servers) 15:35 ^ LarienTelsanta 15:36 K2: awesome! :) 15:38 K2: can you poly for magic marker in grunt? 15:38 i think so 15:38 but there are also felt markers 15:38 mm ok 15:38 so you could wind up twith those too 15:39 K2: arrrrrgh! is there a new core dump on slex hdf-eu that was generated right now? Porkman got another crash; it recovered fine but I once again need a backtrace :( 15:40 yeah one sec 15:41 LarienTelsanta that crash was on the old binary 15:41 yeah but I need a backtrace anyway 15:41 because this looks like a different bug 15:41 he was playing when i updated so he was still running off the old binary, not with what was just updated 15:41 ok 15:42 looks like he just crashed on the new one too 15:42 yeah it's the savegame error :( 15:43 that old core dump, is it still there? I need a backtrace of exactly that, because that's the one that crashed during saving 15:43 yeah 15:43 need to know why it crashed so I can fix it 15:43 damn I really hoped I'd never see that stupid bug again 15:43 errrr 15:44 damn i hit the minetown shk bug agian? 15:44 stenno 15:44 https://termbin.com/744i 15:44 oh yeah it's the one with the zoo 15:44 Porkman: 15:44 what are you playing these days 15:44 so i can come and pork your server 15:44 haha 15:44 my server doesn't exist anymore :/ 15:44 slex is too full of bugs 15:44 i play sporkhack right now 15:44 ^ another motral comes to the realization 15:45 it's like unnethack, only evil 15:45 K2: many thanks, I'd never have figured that one out 15:45 something with trees dropping fruit 15:45 LarienTelsanta stop adding new content and just focus on fixing bugs 15:45 K2: I'm fixing tons of bugs lately! 15:45 you get a character with a half decent chance of getting somewhere and your whole game falls apart 15:45 due to bugs 15:45 Porkman: and what have you played apart from slex? 15:45 yeah but how many more avenues are you opening up when you add new stuff 15:45 i remember the first slex game i played i was like a chaotic jedi 15:46 K2, would you please have an older savegame? 15:46 its like one step forward but 2-3 steps back 15:46 if you even have one 15:46 and praying would just make my god smite me 15:46 Porkman one sec 15:46 because i was an evil chaotic 15:46 and yes i do 15:46 (daily backups) 15:47 from how long ago? 15:47 Amy, this is interesting... i can go downstairs to a level I had not visited before 15:47 but not upstairs to a level I know 15:47 Porkman: yes I know, because the savegame error only deleted level files from levels that already existed! 15:48 Porkman: You must play the rest of the game with the traveling salesman conduct. 15:48 so why doesn't it just create a new level? 15:48 Porkman: because that would allow players to cheat! 15:48 Each level must be visited exactly once. 15:48 ah, so the game can cheat, but not us! 15:49 Jonadab, i don't think that is possible 15:49 cause you have to go back out to ascend 15:49 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:50 <@Winsalot> The following skill couldn't be trained before a certain turn number is reached: attack spells (turn 45458). 15:50 <@Winsalot> Thanks Amy 15:50 i have enchantment spells that way 15:51 should i get another drink now 15:51 i guess it's the last one and then to bed 15:51 K2, how long ago was the daily backup from? 15:51 its daily... 15:51 yes, i mean, what time? 15:51 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 16591 points, T:492, killed by a gnome 15:51 so no older than 24 hrs 15:51 i've been playing this all day 15:51 midnight server time 15:52 what time's it now on server? 15:52 !time 15:52 stenno: Sun Dec 23 15:52:09 2018 EST 15:52 almost 9 pm 15:52 I think that might even be a different game 15:52