00:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] smitty (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4078 00:07 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:08 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 00:13 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 00:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 9118 points, T:3127, killed by a recluse spider 00:24 -!- Tangles_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:29 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 00:30 gnite all 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed tin of green dragon meat", on T:45570 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed tin of red dragon meat", on T:45571 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed tin of white dragon meat", on T:45573 00:32 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 00:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed tin of black dragon meat", on T:45576 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed tin of blue dragon meat", on T:45577 00:34 Can you wish for Chromatic Dragon meat? 00:35 taste... the rainbow? 00:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3474 points, T:1881, killed by a wolf 00:35 Mm 00:36 <@carlarc> that seems like very wasteful wishes 00:37 You ain't seen nothing yet. 00:37 more useful than a blessed greased fixed +2 magic marker 00:38 <@carlarc> isnt blessed counterproductive 00:38 It was a joke on how some people add "blessed greased fixed +2" to everything 00:38 And then get a magic marker with 2 charges 00:39 Not if you only want blessed scrolls. 00:39 or books. 00:39 otherwise it's usually suggested to bless the paper instead. 00:40 YANI: Blessed magic marker lets you chose the BUC of the scroll you write, so when it asks what you want you can say "cursed genocide" or whatever 00:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Law), 178 points, T:447, killed by a Keystone Kop 00:49 <@carlarc> nice 00:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2547 points, T:2018, killed by a wombat 01:13 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 01:13 -!- Tarmunora has left #hardfought 01:50 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 02:33 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:24 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:12 -!- Antichthon` has quit [] 05:19 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:25 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:11 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:26 [hdf-us] [slex] arnibald (Che Asg Mal Law), 6028 points, T:2524, killed by a lucern hammer 06:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:07 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 07:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 07:25 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 07:28 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 07:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1659 points, T:1311, killed by an imp 07:46 morning 07:49 moin moin 07:50 last workday today 07:50 and i am already stressed out 07:50 fml 07:51 wut 07:52 why stennowork? 07:52 its *last work day* 07:52 css flexbox is a nice thing if you understand it 07:52 but some complicated things are ... complicated 07:52 * K2 has never messed with flexbox 07:52 sounds kinda porn-ish 07:52 it's still much better than non-flexbox 07:52 wot 07:52 :D 07:53 oh zomg 07:53 you day just get better? 07:53 idk lol 07:53 hahah 07:54 i just arrived at my work, its a ghost town here 07:55 do some more vmware stuff, catch up on news about my government imploding in on itself, play some sporkhack 07:56 sounds like a plan 07:58 for me my timeplan is 1) speak with a customer about something b) analyze some CMS we may or may not use b) meet up with my homies tonight -> meet family next day -> travel to berlin the day after that -> travel to hong kong day after that 07:58 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 4105 points, T:1532, killed by a plastic golem 07:58 and THEN it's holiday finally 07:58 vacation time 07:58 \o/ 07:59 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Val Ang Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:20975 07:59 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Val Ang Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20977 07:59 my first day of holiday, my plans are to clean my basement 07:59 heh 07:59 ah yes 08:00 the classic: finally i have some time for myself, time to do all the stuff that i couldn't do yet because i am at work usually 08:00 exactly 08:00 but it could just wind up me on the couch in my underwear binge-watching game of thrones 08:01 that sounds like a great plan 08:01 heh, i don't envy a frontend dev, ever :) 08:01 GoT is nice for binge-watching but you have to stay focused 08:01 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 08:01 winny, usually i don't have to do it 08:01 that's good news :3 08:01 winny, usually i just do javascript in frontend and backend 08:01 last season is coming out soon, will need to play catch up 08:01 K2, soon as in somewhen in 2019 08:01 game of bones eh 08:01 is there an actual concrete ETA now? 08:01 i think april '19 08:02 ah 08:02 im way behind on that show, got to maybe s5 08:02 i will bring the books to hong kong so i have something nice to read during the travel 08:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 917 points, T:1605, killed by a little dog, while helpless 08:08 stennowork: it was a choice between maintaining more dynahack saves to prevent corruption 08:09 and fixing a small bug 08:09 of course I fix the small bug 08:09 hah fair 08:10 because apparently I am the only one capable of maintaining NH4.2 saves who are willing to do so 08:10 ais523 was MIA for several months, more or less 08:10 and nobody else was willing to figure out how it worked 08:10 oof lol 08:10 or able perhaps 08:10 half the reason I wrote 4.3save was that 4.2 save recovery was so annoying to do 08:10 I had to reverse engineer it 08:10 real fun 08:11 although half the time you can just delete random bits of the file until things work (or almost work), the other half can be a nightmare 08:11 honestly I think I would have a better time maintaining nitrohack saves 08:11 is the 4.2 system basically just nitrohacks saving system? 08:11 FIQ did the termbin link I sent you for luxidream's dynahack game, helpful at all? 08:11 oh apparently not 08:11 at least there aren't any bizarre corruption bugs, just a terrible idea 08:11 it's nitrohack's saving system + a bunch of extra redundancy 08:11 ais523: some of that which fucks it up 08:12 nitrohack's save system is... very dubious 08:12 but not overly *buggy* 08:12 FIQ: I'm not convinced about the lack of bizarre corruption bugs, things like "options are written in the middle of the file overwriting commands" seem like they could happen in vanilla Nitrohack too 08:12 ais523: I played nitrohack for 2 weeks, trying my hardest to fuck things up 08:12 in the save 08:12 change options 08:13 play strangely 08:13 cause crashes 08:13 go very long without saving 08:13 or saving every 50 turns in a 5k turn game 08:13 excessive save scumming 08:13 and in the end I was only able to find a single issue 08:14 this issue remained in dynahack and caused several saves to fail after a crash 08:14 after I realized that the *very same bug* was affecting dyna (months after I toyed with nitrohack) 08:14 I went and addressed the bug in dynahack 08:14 because I really didn't want to deal with corrupted 4.2 saves 08:14 seems like a good idea 08:15 (the problem: the scoreboard isn't part of the save, so whenever things are pulled from it, the save desyncs) 08:15 I solved this by making scoreboard pulling always fail 08:15 did Nitrohack record loaded bones files? 08:15 NitroHack does handle bones files, yes 08:15 I don't recall how, maybe the NH3 way? 08:16 the NH3 way is to record the save effect only; that works in 4.3save if you add a dummy line, but wouldn't work in 4.2save 08:16 I know that a regular (non-crashed) save has binary data in it, not sure if a bones dump also has, or if it's base64ed 08:16 so you'd need a separate sort of input line 08:16 containing binary bones data 08:16 I know some Nitro/NH4 save system does that but I forget which one 08:17 when a nitrohack save is created the regular way 08:17 to prevent having to replay the entire game from turn 1, a NH3 save is created 08:17 yes, appended to the end of the file 08:17 and appended on it 08:17 it is removed upon load 08:17 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:45757 08:17 this means that everything before it can get corrupted and you don't notice, up until the point you have a save where the binary save doesn't work 08:17 which in turn means that when a Nitrohack save goes wrong, the game has typically gone long past the last point at which it's recoverable 08:17 (I should note, with what I said in backlog -- whenever I saved, I generally removed this part, to ensure a proper test of the save system) 08:18 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:45767 08:18 FIQ: oh, I think there were likely bug fixes to the Nitrohack save system /after/ I started complaining about it 08:18 I know Dynahack applied a lot of fixes, some of them may have been backported 08:18 not always, since that part itself also warranted testing obviously, but when I was happy with the conclusion that it worked, I removed it whenever I saved for maximum exposure to nitrohack's stuff 08:19 so it may well be more stable than I remember it nowadays 08:19 ais523: ah, maybe 08:19 there are several commits with fixes 08:19 but I figured that it was still bad after said fixes, given that 4.2 exists 08:19 I suppose it's possible that the 4.2 system was created alongside fixes to the nitrohack save system 08:20 leading to the system being basically all but error-free by the time it was made obsolete, to the point where the pains people had with it stopped being relevant 08:20 FIQ did the termbin link I sent you for luxidream's dynahack game, helpful at all? 08:20 I think that if I were to make NitroHack server-ready, I'd probably add in safeguards in the form of binary checkpointing 08:21 add the same fix I did to dynahack 08:21 and the game should be OK at that point 08:21 K2: link? 08:21 one sec 08:21 I see the link 08:21 covetous bug in plane of water it seems 08:22 i recompiled dynahack in debug mode so we get useful backtrace data now 08:22 yes 08:22 give me the save 08:22 sounds like a simple fix 08:22 from the backtrace 08:22 WoY tried to 'go upstairs' on plane of water 08:22 ...how did that happen 08:22 oh right 08:22 FIQ he quit that game 08:22 I messed with that code 08:23 why would he do that 08:23 anyway 08:23 I think I know the problem 08:25 FIQ i just sent you a collaborator invite to my dynahack repo 08:33 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:46010 08:41 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:46168 08:42 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:46172 08:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 29 points, T:68, killed by a water demon 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1464 points, T:3712, quit 09:06 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47076 09:09 -!- j has joined #hardfought 09:09 -!- j is now known as Guest29506 09:11 -!- Guest29506 is now known as rebatela 09:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 10441 points, T:3206, quit 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5712 09:22 !tell jonadab Error: Unhandled timed obj a homunculus corpse carried by a warhorse called "Fugger", try again later 09:22 jonadab shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, hothraxxa. 09:22 !tell jonadab Game ID: hothraxxa_1545322420 09:22 Will do, hothraxxa! 09:22 !tell jonadab Location: libnethack/src/dog.c:271 09:22 No worries, hothraxxa, I've got this! 09:23 !tell jonadab R does not recover, error repeats 09:23 jonadab shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, hothraxxa. 09:26 !tell jonadab this happens when i step on the portal to the quest. fugger has already gone through 09:26 No worries, hothraxxa, I've got this! 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6198 09:31 <@LuXmas> hothraxxa: sounds like the infamous nh4 timed object bug 09:31 <@LuXmas> Usually it happens with a nymph carrying an egg 09:32 <@LuXmas> when you enter that level the game breaks 09:32 ah. so what's the fix, wind the game back to before fugger enters the portal? 09:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1356 points, T:1736, killed by Mr. Iskenderun, the shopkeeper 09:35 <@LuXmas> right before the error would work, then you could wait for the corpse to rot 09:36 <@LuXmas> before entering 09:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 09:43 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 09:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3111 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a queen bee, on T:3270 09:47 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:51 * LarienTelrunya wonders whether she should add all the various themed nicknames as slex monsters :D thankfully LuXmas is blue and not yellow! ;) 09:52 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:48656 09:52 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:48657 10:01 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49006 10:04 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:49071 10:07 <@mistleTone> hmm we need a LarienTelSanta or something 10:07 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:49124 10:08 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:49134 10:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:09 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:49170 10:11 woot 10:11 hey! congrats K2! 10:12 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu), 4769398 points, T:49199, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/sporkhack/dumplog/1545141087.sp.txt 10:12 thanks! 10:12 i dont want to do monk for sporkhack ever again lol 10:12 well now you don't have to! 10:15 \o/ 10:15 that was another rough game 10:16 nice k2 10:16 if i hadnt got those 2 throne wishes... whew 10:16 thx winny 10:17 i think i will start playing slash'em next 10:21 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 10:21 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:26 <@LuXmas> grats K2 10:26 thanks! 10:27 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 10:27 Congrats ☺ 10:28 :P 10:28 <@LuXmas> !tell Mandevil can we have a realtime leaderboard on scoreboard 10:28 Will do, @LuXmas! 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:7358 10:32 -!- LarienTelrunya is now known as LarienTelsanta 10:32 thanks @MistleTone :) 10:32 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:7748 10:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 599 points, T:1019, killed by a gnome, while helpless 10:35 K2: I should probably get a copy of hothraxxa's save. The one that asplodes when he goes through the quest portal. 10:35 jonadab: Messages from hothraxxa have been forwarded to you privately. 10:35 ok 10:37 @LuXmas Realtime is somewhat problematic. Maybe we can have realtime on per-variant basis. 10:37 Mandevil: Message from @LuXmas at 2018-12-21 10:28 EST: can we have a realtime leaderboard on scoreboard 10:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 496 points, T:907, killed by a wererat 10:39 <@LuXmas> yeah, that would be cool 10:40 <@LuXmas> also, would it be difficult to show wallclock for variants that don't have realtime tracking, like nitrohack variants? They give start time and end time 10:40 jonadab just sent you a private message 10:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:42 lol, the health food store sells cream pies 10:42 probably because they're vegetarian (not vegan though) 10:42 also pancakes 10:42 @LuXmas No, wallclock would be pretty easy. 10:42 ditto 10:42 * bug_sniper hopes they sell rubber chickens too 10:43 they don't 10:43 Hmm, aren't candy bars also vegetarian? Do they sell those? 10:43 they do sell royal jelly sometimes (not this time) 10:43 THAT makes sense. 10:43 there isn't one in this particular shop so I don't know 10:43 but I bought all their 5 tins and they're all spinach :-) 10:43 Nice. 10:44 I think the tins can also be vegetarian monsters. 10:44 yes 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1209 points, T:2025, quit 10:45 But if you're in the mines, it probably just tried to generate gnome and dwarf tins and then gave up and made them spinach 10:45 no, it's on level 2 10:45 hmm, then I would have expected some lichen or mold tins, or something. 10:46 usually yes but the RNG made every tin into spinach 10:46 not that I mind 10:46 St 16 is a lot better than the 11 I started with 10:46 (14 now, I have to burn off some of that nutrition until I can eat the rest) 10:57 <@mistleTone> Health food stores are great, I think they sell potions of extra and full healing 11:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Nec Dro Mal Cha), 1562 points, T:2933, killed by a kobold lord 11:02 what would a nice christmassy modification of the nick stenno me 11:02 be 11:03 christenno _ 11:03 maybe not 11:03 santno 11:03 lol 11:03 stennomas 11:03 mh idk 11:03 stennule 11:03 lol 11:04 <@ChristmIceBox> stennoel obviously 11:04 oh duh 11:04 oh that works 11:04 <@ChristmIceBox> that'll be $5 11:04 <@mistleTone> ooh good one 😄 11:05 unfortunately, in germany "noel" means something 11:05 stenno above chimney 11:05 <@ChristmIceBox> something other than magical christmas time!? 11:05 noelen means something like "to grouch" 11:05 because that qdb is still funny 11:06 actually will spend the whole of the 24th in an airplane 11:06 (and here in germany we celebrate christmas on 24th) 11:06 so no need to get too christmassy i guess 11:06 stennoel is considered though 11:07 in german that would be something like "whining stenno" 11:07 which is kinda fitting too i guess 11:07 <@mistleTone> lol 11:08 so i technically celebrate christmas twice: on the 24th in germany, in a hotel room alone, and on the 25th in HK with attie 11:08 but i doubt we will do much christmas-related stuff 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 13397 points, T:7018, killed by a gnome king 11:08 didn't do it last time either iirc 11:10 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Nec Dro Mal Cha), 664 points, T:927, poisoned by a little dart 11:15 FIQ, or anyone who knows jack about the NetHack codebase: Can I get a second set of eyes on this? http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/pastebin/1082.txt 11:15 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 11:15 It _appears_ to fix the problem with hothraxxa's game. But I am afraid of it, because I really really don't know what I'm doing with the timers stuff. 11:16 Is this an even remotely sane thing to do? 11:16 I know jack about the nethack codebase, but you're on your own with the timers coe 11:16 code 11:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Nec Dro Mal Cha), 825 points, T:1053, killed by a coyote 11:16 aosdict: Yeah, I was afraid of that. 11:17 NetHack's timers give me the heebie jeebies. 11:17 The only timer related thing I ever did was adding a new type of timer, but that was just using the timers API, as it were. 11:18 What we're doing here, if I even understand what I'm trying to do, is looking through the list of timers for the current level, and checking if any of them pertain to a monster-carried object, and if so setting the olev on that object (which _was_ null) to the current level. 11:18 IN the monster arrival code. 11:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Nec Dro Mal Cha), 244 points, T:639, fell into a pit 11:20 <@LuXmas> is ais here 11:20 nope 11:21 No, I would've nickpinged him if he were. 11:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Nec Dro Mal Cha), 202 points, T:455, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:24 <@LuXmas> FIQ? ^ 11:25 Alright, YOLO. What's the worst that could happen? What can possibly go wrong? I'm sure this'll be fine. 11:25 K2: Pushed a fix that appears to make hothraxxa's game playable. 11:25 ok 11:25 <@LuXmas> o boy 11:28 <@ChristmIceBox> what about stockingStenno cuz i sounds kinda like stocking stuffer 11:29 <@ChristmIceBox> stennowflake 11:29 <@ChristmIceBox> stennowman 11:29 <@ChristmIceBox> stennowball 11:30 <@LuXmas> I have to say, I'm pretty impressed icebox, do you do this for a living? 11:30 I could be "christmaos" or something but don't really feel like changing nick 11:30 K2 is KrisKringle, obviously 11:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:31 <@ChristmIceBox> it's an uncontrollable habit i have to try and create portmanteaus of words whenever i hear them anyways because it annoys the hell out of my wife 11:31 <@ChristmIceBox> so yeah i kinda do it for a living, or at least while i'm alive 11:31 <@mistleTone> stennog 11:31 stennographer? 11:31 you do it in the sense that it staves off the sweet embrace of death 11:31 jonadab: Got nothing to do with christmas though. 11:32 <@LuXmas> jonadab: what's your christmas name? 11:32 -!- bug_sniper is now known as bug_santa 11:32 how's this for a name? 11:32 <@LuXmas> niceu 11:33 <@mistleTone> 👌 11:33 <@ChristmIceBox> noice 11:33 K2 is my xmas name 11:33 already set 11:33 <@mistleTone> Grinch2 :P 11:34 <@LuXmas> how do you type 😛 without turning it into the emoji 11:34 Everything I can think of for mine is either stupid or sacreligious. 11:34 *sacriligious 11:34 <@mistleTone> I think I had to turn it off somewhere lux 11:35 *howeverthatisspelled 11:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Nec Dro Mal Cha), 875 points, T:1375, killed by a water moccasin 11:35 <@mistleTone> I didn't like :P emoji because it never seemed to match my intent 11:35 <@mistleTone> Quite like ascii 11:35 :-) 11:35 <@LuXmas> yeah, it has different connotation in ascii I think 11:35 jonadalph_the_red_nosed_reindeer 11:36 you could do that 11:36 that's too long for irc :) 11:36 bug_santa: no 11:37 If I were going to do it, I would want something that's actually related to _Christmas_, not the dumb Santa junk. 11:37 <@ChristmIceBox> how do you say your name jonadab? joe-nuh-dab? 11:37 <@ChristmIceBox> santa is christmas, you watch your mouth 11:37 Don't even get me started. 11:37 Nobody wants to hear that rant. 11:37 And yeah, I just pronounce it the way an English-speaking person naively would, even though I theoretically know better. 11:37 <@ChristmIceBox> a rant on how you say your nick? 11:38 Heh. 11:38 <@ChristmIceBox> haha, what's your country of origin? 11:38 I'm from the Midwest. 11:38 Currently live in Ohio. 11:38 <@ChristmIceBox> haha, you talkin like a foreigner 11:38 <@ChristmIceBox> you and lux live together? 11:38 Have also lived in Indiana and Michigan. 11:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Nec Dro Mal Cha), 375 points, T:611, killed by a water moccasin 11:38 No idea about lux. 11:38 <@LuXmas> do I talk like a foreigner? 11:39 As far as I know he's from slexland. 11:39 luxi is from oklahoma 11:39 Ah, Oklahoma. That is a fair distance from here. 11:39 <@ChristmIceBox> yeah you too lux 😃 11:40 Google Maps says 15 hours of driving to Oklahoma from here, but I don't think any reasonable person would try to make that trip in less than three days minimum. 11:40 <@LuXmas> yeah ohio is pretty far, I'm not even willing to drive the three hours to texas lol 11:40 <@ChristmIceBox> boughnadab is all i can get for now but it sounds terrible 11:40 <@ChristmIceBox> like boughs of holly 11:40 jonadab: Driving 5 hours a day seems like not that much. 11:41 -!- Xaleth has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 11:41 aosdict: Right, normally you figure you can do 6-8. 11:41 But I don't trust Google's estimate in this case. 11:41 Or more. I mean, if you're dedicating the whole day to it... 11:41 <@LuXmas> my grandparents live in Ohio, so when I was younger we'd drive up there, takes about two days as you'd expect 11:42 Oh? Ok, maybe two days then. 11:42 Which matches what Google maps says. 11:42 I think of Oklahoma as being farther away than other two-day targets, such as the east coast. 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5136 11:43 Oh, I see. There happens to be an interstate that does almost the perfect angle. 11:43 I-44. Never knew that existed. 11:44 Basically a straight line from Indianapolis to Oklahoma City. 11:44 I would've expected to have to go west for a day or so, then south for a good while, then west for another day. 11:45 just take the train_ 11:45 Because usually interstates don't make the perfect angle like that. 11:45 oh wait usa, you don't have trains 11:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 16992 points, T:4781, killed by a black unicorn 11:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] Disruptor (Nec Dro Mal Cha), 547 points, T:1504, killed by a rabbit 11:45 stennowork: I mean, if I drove north for a bit over an hour, I could get a passenger train west. 11:45 lol.. 11:46 To Chicago and/or Oregon. 11:46 stennowork: Honestly, the interstates are the American equivalent for what trains are in Europe. 11:47 <@ChristmIceBox> just more rage-inducing 11:47 The major difference is, you don't have to rent a car (or, heaven help you, walk) when you get off the train at the other end. 11:48 Which is rather important in America, because things are pretty spread out. 11:49 <@ChristmIceBox> on a trip to england a tour guide said it best: "In england 100 years isn't that long and in America 100 miles isn't that far" 11:49 Canada's similar, except they mostly don't have interstates. So you're stuck taking the old national highways. Many of which are only two lanes total, one lane each direction. 11:49 * jonadab has known people who commute 100 miles to work every day. 11:50 Though that's a pretty extreme commute. 11:56 <@ChristmIceBox> my father in law currently has a 70 mile commute 11:56 <@ChristmIceBox> dude is nuts 11:56 -!- j has joined #hardfought 11:57 I mean, a *lot* of people have a 50-60 mile commute. That's an hour. Everybody from here who works in Columbus, that's that. 11:57 Probably 20% of the population here does that. 11:57 -!- j is now known as Guest73766 11:57 -!- Guest73766 is now known as rebatela 11:57