00:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Arc Hum Fem Law), 3271 points, T:4158, killed by a water demon, while praying 00:03 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law), 85384 points, T:5036, killed by a monster (deep armorc) 00:04 -!- Porkman has quit [] 00:39 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law), 20304 points, T:1448, killed by a monster (serbian boss) 00:45 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law), 14422 points, T:361, quit 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh343] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:35348 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:35364 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:35372 01:04 found the Ancient Brain in splicehack. Fired up wizard mode to see what he's all about. 01:09 <@Luxcalibur> bouquet: far too difficult for too little reward 01:10 <@Luxcalibur> I wish antigulp put in more stuff there because the current reward is 4 random spellbooks 01:12 -!- Xaleth has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 01:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:37 -!- Lymia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 01:41 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:42 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:49 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 01:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 79270 points, T:13256, killed by a magical blast 01:54 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law), 20935 points, T:3014, killed by a shotgun shell 01:55 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 270 points, T:533, killed by a poisonous corpse 02:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1933 points, T:1706, killed by a giant ant 02:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:14 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law), 2397 points, T:970, killed by a monster (leocrotta) 02:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 192 points, T:438, killed by a bolt of fire 02:18 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Lad Spe Mal Cha), 12020 points, T:1, escaped 02:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1139 points, T:1553, killed by a water demon 02:28 You are hit by a falling easy piercer! [-16 -> 19] 02:28 Is it called that because it can pierce me easily? 02:35 Andrio: holy shit you're playing slex? the easy piercer is called that because it's supposedly easy to defeat 02:36 Not without a helmet. 02:36 mm 02:36 quite obviously I need to adjust the falling piercer damage to make it scale with the piercer's level; easy piercers certainly shouldn't do 16 damage when falling on you 02:36 mm 02:37 hmm somehow that didn't ping me? 02:37 I have highlights from Beholder blocked also 02:41 #justslexthings ;) 02:42 also, apparently slex beholder messages from hdf-au don't appear in the other channel? 02:42 yasi: rename spell of turn undead to spell of burn undead 02:42 !tell K2 is it just me, or does the beholder message forwarding to #em.slashem.me forward slex messages from hdf-us and hdf-eu only? Andrio was playing slex on hdf-au but the messages didn't get forwarded 02:42 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 02:44 When your charisma is so low you can't even buy a key 02:44 Andrio: you can kick the items out of walls, and as long as that doesn't make them end up outside the shop (kicking them on the entrance square does count as outside and the shopkeeper will block them; be careful), he'll then let you pick them up and buy them normally 02:44 Hm, artifact mirror 02:44 so I see, you finally found slex, andrio 02:44 mm 02:44 Hey, bug_sniper 02:45 "Fairest in the Land" pacifies nymphs when applied at them. 02:46 Do they still steal it? 02:46 yeah 02:46 mm 02:47 Robbery time. 02:47 huh, how are you going to rob the items? 02:47 There's bags. 02:47 yeah but how do you avoid being killed by an angry shopkeeper? 02:48 I've killed them with a wand of sleep before. 02:49 in slex? wow 02:49 In vanills 02:49 a 02:49 ah, well slex shopkeepers are very buff compared to vanilla 02:49 hm 02:49 Porkman got one yesterday who invoked ragnarok 02:49 Stop pretending to be a pet, orc zombie. 02:52 Dlvl:4, already two artifacts generated 02:52 wow, it's rare for the # of actual artifacts to be higher than the fake ones 02:52 mm 02:53 Dont bang on the keyboard. 02:53 Don't punch a hole through your monitor either. 02:55 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:56 Apparently going inside the bounding box of the room counts as 'entering a weird-looking room' even if it's not rectangular. 02:56 yep :) 02:56 This corridor looks weird for a room. 02:57 the orange | is a pentagram 02:57 Antichthon will tell you to use the hell out of it :D 02:57 Does it summon demons? 02:57 Hm, second magic whistle in a row 02:58 it can unlock skills, give you artifacts and do other nice things, i.e. similar to a throne but with different effects 02:59 All the corridor traps 03:58 The artifact was cursed, by the way 03:59 the amulet? yeah, because it was curse-welded to you! 03:59 mm 04:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:20 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 04:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:20 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:4746 04:33 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 04:35 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:47 [hdf-us] [slex] Antichthon (Jed Clk Fem Law) killed Tuxedo Mask, on T:5604 05:50 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 05:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:04 -!- Antichthon` has joined #hardfought 06:05 -!- Antichthon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:12 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:13 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 06:18 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 06:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 06:19 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:35 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:36 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46 oh great dnethack has potions of amnesia. 06:47 on a completely unrelated note, if you dip a unicorn horn into a potion and it produces some weird steam and uses up the potion.... don't drink those potions. 06:47 I wouldn't! 06:47 wait... what potions? I forgot. 06:48 it doesn't hurt the unihorn? 06:48 no 06:48 nice to know 06:48 not like suddenly having an extra key and no longer a unicorn horn 06:50 no not like that at all :) 06:51 Which is lucky because it took me ages to find a unicorn horn. 06:51 I also have Nighthorn, but it's chaotic so it blasts me every time I use it even when "Nothing seems to happen". 06:52 right, like using holy water to cure lycanthropy when you're chaotic 06:53 Yeah, except that sometimes you have to do it several times in a row. 06:54 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:54 oh wait... it doesn't matter that I'm not chaotic. Description in wiki says "will always blast its user" 06:58 Hmm it acts as a luckstone (but is heavier than one) and can #invoke to toggle leveitation. Has other benefits when you wield it or if you're chaotic, but I'm neither. Probably not worth holding onto (I mean I could carry it instead of a luckstone AND a unicorn horn if it wasn't for the blasting...) 07:00 I'm still considering dual-wielding quicksilver and trollsbane for the lols but I don't know how bad the -20 to-hit is going to be for having a heavy offhand weapon. 07:01 -20! 07:01 looks like you're unlikely to hit anything 07:02 yeah but taking into account luck, and all the other things... I think it's the same as high-level monks still being able to hit while wearing body armour. 07:02 hm 07:03 I have tons of resources. I should just enchant all the things to +7 and see what feels best :) 07:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:20 I always thougth it would be save to enchant a +4 cloak. Obviously I was wrong. Just blew up my +4 cloak of magic resistance with anuncursed scroll of enhcant weapon. 07:22 you can safely enchant from +3 (unless it's elven, then you can safely enchant from +5) 07:22 and I'd recommend a scroll of enchant armor 07:22 heh 07:22 I meant enchant armor. 07:23 yes, I supposed so but couldn't resist :-) 07:23 Does the same apply for weapons? 07:23 yes 07:23 er, no 07:23 ? 07:23 you can enchant all weapons safely from +5 but not from +6 07:24 if your weapon is +6 and you want +7, engrave one letter in the floor with it if it's a pointy thing 07:24 otherwise, or if it's Magicbane, you need to cast drain life on it or read a cursed scroll of enchant weapon 07:25 Ah, o.k. maybe therefore I was wrong. In the hindsight I was very lucky to get my T-shirt to +6. 07:25 (which doesn't always work on artifacts) 07:25 yes! 07:27 there's a 1 in [current enchantment] chance that it will *not* disintegrate 07:27 which is better than I thought, frankly 07:36 I am "very fast" due to my speed boots. Will a wand of speed monster or a potion of speed help to speed me up even more? 07:36 AlbertB: no 07:37 I believe a potion of speed will cure wounded legs (such as from a xan, land-mine, or kicking something you shouldn't), but I never bother with this. 07:49 there isn't any faster than "very fast" 07:49 YASI: one level above very fast - ludicrous speed 07:49 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-12-20 02:42 EST: is it just me, or does the beholder message forwarding to #em.slashem.me forward slex messages from hdf-us and hdf-eu only? Andrio was playing slex on hdf-au but the messages didn't get forwarded 07:56 Can I tame A on the astral plane with a scroll of taming? 07:59 they probably have high MR, but theoretically yes 08:00 So is it worth it to try a blessed scroll of taming? 08:00 I gues I won't tame the riders. 08:00 no, it won't 08:00 or indeed any & 08:01 but it might pacify player monsters and tame any H and such 08:01 if it was possible to tame the riders, people would be ascending with them 08:01 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02 but use your own judgment 08:02 it's not as if you're going to use it for anything else at this stage so there's no harm in trying 08:08 -!- ais523_ has joined #hardfought 08:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523_] by ChanServ 08:08 Beholder: messages? 08:08 easy morning 08:09 or afternoon 08:09 -!- ais523_ is now known as ais523 08:09 Beholder: messages? 08:09 afternoon 08:09 -!- ais523 is now known as ais523_ 08:10 also, I realised Beholder wouldn't relay messages on this nick, so I had to change temporarily 08:10 hmm had a thought 08:10 no that wont work... nm 08:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 32097 points, T:7674, defeated by a brown mold warrior 08:13 checking the "logged in as" account won't work unless you memorise those when you see nicks, and then translate a nick to an account upon a message being sent 08:14 and getting that to work on the Discord side would be even more difficult 08:14 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:14 yeah you were reading my mind 08:14 heh 08:15 it'd help stop people clearing each others' messages, at least 08:17 which is a trick I've seen people play with similar messagebots in other channels 08:19 its too early for Good Ideas™ 08:19 i did not get enough sleep bleh 08:20 going to clear the VotD and then get started on this vCenter/ESXi upgrade 08:34 @d?deminymph 08:34 deminymph (n) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d8 weapon physical, 1d8 weapon physical, 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, teleports, infravisible 08:36 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) had The Marauder's Map bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:2199 08:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:57 -!- ais523_ has quit [Quit: quit] 09:04 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 2646 points, T:4315, killed by a magic missile 09:04 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by opening a silver container 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6308 09:06 <@Luxcalibur> !lastgame Noah 09:06 @Luxcalibur: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Noah/splicehack/dumplog/1545314650.splice.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Noah/nh361/dumplog/1544458816.nh361.txt 09:07 Puh! I can't believe I did it! 09:07 congrats AlbertB! 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:28129 09:07 did you tame any A? 09:07 wooo congrats AlbertB! 09:07 <@Luxcalibur> grats AlbertB! 09:07 Thanks a lot. 09:08 No, taming A didn't work out. "nothing" seems to happen. 09:09 then there was nothing tameable next to you (the A must have had too high MR) 09:09 What's next? Try a elfen wizzard? 09:09 orc wizard! :-) 09:09 Why orc? 09:09 it's fun, you start poison resistant, you have infravision (like elves) 09:10 AlbertB did the attempts at least pacify the angles? 09:10 you can eat anything without penalty, even your own race 09:11 the only drawback is that you have max starting Int of 16 but you can fix that with a helm of brilliance 09:12 gnome is slightly easier (because smarter, and monsters in the mines tend to be peaceful) but not poison resistant to start with 09:12 K2: don't remember. If they were peacefull surely not for long because I was wearing a ring of conflict most of the time. 09:12 ah 09:13 is this your first ascension? 09:13 K2: yes, it is. The TNNT guys cheated me out of my first ascension some weeks ago;-) 09:13 doh 09:14 its nice to see a 1st asc 09:14 Yeah, feels great! 09:15 \o/ 09:16 Well, I think I need a break now and I'll return soon to try a wizzard. 09:16 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2754 points, T:6820, killed by a bolt of lightning 09:18 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] Karnak (Sam Hum Fem Law), 93 points, T:156, killed by a sewer rat 09:34 @luxidream [backscroll] There *is* room in the game, I think, for optional side branches that provide more challenge than reward. Even if there's no character combination that would optimally complete that branch, some games will still want to complete it. 09:39 <@Luxcalibur> aosdict: if you have psychic resistance you curb stomp it and get an uninteresting prize. Without psychic resistance it’s too dangerous to attempt to fight 09:40 <@Luxcalibur> either way, ancient brain isn’t a worthwhile branch 09:42 It doesn't need to be worthwhile. Say I made an optional side branch that contains Demogorgon and no reward at all, some players would still go in just to kill him. 09:42 hah neat. a recent bug fix to 3.6.2 was pulled from grunthack 09:42 And it's fine if only 1% of games do. 09:45 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:29023 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided class h, on T:29024 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:29185 09:56 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1485 09:58 <@Luxcalibur> I guess that's a difference in opinion, I really dislike branches that have very little impact on survivability, like un's dragon caves. It doesn't feel meaningful to complete a dungeon branch that doesn't affect your win. 09:58 Then you don't have to complete it. 09:58 <@Luxcalibur> some people do like extinctionist/killing everything so I can see why it could see some use, though 09:58 I would say Sheol rather than Dragon Caves is a better example, actually 09:58 <@Luxcalibur> sheol has a marker now 09:58 You get... a crystal pick and maybe Cleaver if you didn't have it already! 09:59 "You unleash a water demon! The water demon falls into your pit!" haha sucker 09:59 <@Luxcalibur> which is more useful than a bunch of properties you probably already have 10:00 It's ok to have the side branch just be there for those that want to take the challenge. 10:00 It's also ok for the player to say "Well, there's no reason for me to do this, so let's just... not." 10:05 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 1920 points, T:2186, sent to the grave by a rothe 10:09 !tell AntiGulp thoughts on optional dungeon branches where the risk isn't worth the reward vs. an optional branch's reward should always be worthwhile? 10:09 Will do, aosdict! 10:10 obtaining chromatic dragon scales in unnethack is kind of a big deal 10:10 i would opine that finishing that branch does have a significant impact on your survivability 10:11 (if you get the scales, its not a guarantee) 10:12 <@Luxcalibur> K2: how so 10:12 chromatic dragon scale has pretty much every resistance except MR 10:12 and it has reflection 10:12 and stone res 10:12 <@Luxcalibur> most players have all elemental resistances and reflection by the time they reach dragon caves 10:13 <@Luxcalibur> stone resistance is a luxury 10:13 so is any other resistance technically 10:13 ah well, we'll have to agree to disagree 10:14 <@Luxcalibur> I think so too, I wore a dwarvish mithril coat through un and dyna most of the time 10:14 imo sheol is harder than dragon caves and the reward isnt as great 10:15 crystal ice golems hit *hard* 10:15 <@Luxcalibur> marker > petrification resistance 10:15 meh 10:15 i've ascended games without ever using or seeing a magic marker 10:15 marker == luxury ;) 10:15 <@Luxcalibur> never had to recharge your wand of death? 10:15 sometimes nope 10:16 <@Luxcalibur> then you were lucky 10:16 if i play something like a samurai 10:16 dual wield for the win 10:16 just mow everything down 10:16 skadoosh 10:17 <@Luxcalibur> objectively I think the marker is still much more useful, but admittedly, I haven't ever faced the executioner without cheese 10:18 heh 10:18 i havent tried taking on 1ES yet 10:18 i need to do that 10:19 <@Luxcalibur> you can beat her in honorable melee combat 😉 10:19 but before i do that, after this sporkhack monk game i want to give slash'em a serious go 10:21 <@Luxcalibur> thiefbane is uncursed so you can just yoink it, but that's the coward's way 10:28 I wonder if anyone deliberately curses and welds Magicbane in order to prevent a balrog whipping it out of their hand. 10:29 heh 10:29 YANI: new scroll of genocide items 10:29 buh bye bullwhips 10:29 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 10:29 <@Luxcalibur> slex has that already 10:30 <@Luxcalibur> however you can only genocide one item at a time 10:30 for fucksake 10:30 lol 10:30 blessed scroll of genocide item... buh bye 'armor' 10:31 <@Luxcalibur> aosdict: in FIQHack endgame I strongly recommend you curse your weapon 10:32 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 10:32 <@Luxcalibur> every enemy will use any bullwhip they find 10:32 <@strangefella> sounds fun 10:33 <@Luxcalibur> and it ignores AC and greasing, so it's essentially indefensible otherwise 10:34 <[Demo]6> i swear to shit someone was talking about genociding items here two weeks ago or something 10:37 "geocide" is a meme that needs to be revived more often, although that was about genociding terrain features (as opposed to items) 10:37 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 10:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2629 points, T:1225, killed by a dwarf 10:39 <[Demo]6> no more walls! 10:39 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 2865 points, T:4754, sent to the grave by an ape 10:46 -!- ilbelkyr has quit [Killed (Sigyn (BANG!))] 10:48 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 923 points, T:1378, killed by a dretch, while helpless 10:50 -!- ilbelkyr has joined #hardfought 10:52 YANI: Artifact weapon that has the property where when you hit something with it it emits a shockwave the deals reduced damage to everything behind it. 10:52 [Demo]6: there are a lot of potentially ridiculous geocides (wall, floor, stairs…), that's why it works as a meme 10:52 presumably the high altars would be ungeocidable 10:53 ooh can we geocide stone 10:54 genocide altars, who needs winnable games anyway :P 10:54 <@strangefella> genocide the gods 10:54 "Wiped out all stone. The planet vanishes!" 10:54 There'd still be a large glob of water 10:55 Also maybe lava depending on wether you count liquid stone to be stone or not 10:59 Without the planet it would probably take a while to coalesce, and by then it would have frozen into a bunch of ice 11:03 Not if there *is* still lava 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:3244 11:07 .oO(Shouldn't it be "fungus products" or something similar?) 11:07 gray ooze isn't a fungus 11:07 oh 11:07 if it were, it wouldn't break vegan 11:07 but it shouldn't be considered as an animal 11:08 Notably, it's *not* considered meat, according to that. 11:16 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17 gee thanks jonadab 11:17 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 11:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 11:17 i start a fourk wizard. i have no rings, a spellbook of light, and a wand of nothing 11:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3248 points, T:2017, killed by a jaguar 11:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 483 points, T:768, killed by a small mimic 11:22 👏 11:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:29 PavelB, you may want to suggest that for dungeon crawl too 11:30 I don't play or know anything about it 11:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 685 points, T:1930, killed by a giant bat 11:50 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 970 points, T:1002, killed by a rothe 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 18771 points, T:7118, killed by a zruty 12:04 <@Luxcalibur> !gt z 12:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1330 points, T:1752, killed by a gnome lord 12:07 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 327 points, T:319, killed by a dwarf 12:09 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 145 points, T:325, killed by an electric shock 12:12 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 12:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:14 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:24 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 12:25 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 12:28 -!- ais523 has quit [Client Quit] 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "the holy greased platinum yendorian express card", on T:23535 12:35 back at it with the pyec 12:36 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 12:42 [hdf-us] [4k] Je'Mora (Ssach) (Ran Syl Fem Cha), 3540 points, T:1360, killed by a force bolt 12:42 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:34546 12:45 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:47 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 12:51 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:35032 12:52 [hdf-us] [dyn] Lorien (Maihemm) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4 points, T:8, killed by a jackal 12:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Karnak (Brd Gno Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4741 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:30567 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 37 points, T:42, killed by a sewer rat 13:03 [hdf-us] [slex] thiefwriter (Bar Hum Mal Law), 86 points, T:272, killed by a monster (Diablo) 13:06 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Mon Orc Mal Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:35687 13:06 ^ blah 13:06 K2: JOOI is Master Kaen appreciably more horrible in Spork? 13:07 about the same 13:07 i havent fought him yet this game, just blew 3 potion of paralysis on demogorgon 13:07 Thanks. I'm due a return match with Spork in June although I might play it safe and do Vak 13:07 Valk 13:08 valk or samurai is good 13:08 and remember only knights can dip for excalibur 13:09 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:09 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 13:14 Thanks although I may have forgotten that in June. Mind you, last June I did die to plain old PEBKAC, just a level of PEBKAC vanilla will let you get away with. 13:14 unfortunately PEBKAC and I tend to be on a first-name basis 13:15 i feel your pain 13:15 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 13:15 ... but I think Ranger may have been a bit overambitious, and also the Quest was utterly souldestroying and that made me careless thereafter. 13:16 my current game isnt going ideal 13:16 i've killed asmo, juiblex, demogorgon (J gated him in, bastard) 13:17 Baalzebub I remember being worst. 13:17 but still havent completed my quest. i have 0 AC 13:17 no ring of lev or conflict 13:17 or slow digestion for that matter 13:17 no poly 13:17 I guess Spork puts the kibosh on wearing body armour and just bulling through the penalty. 13:17 so i cant poly for what i need 13:17 no that part is the same 13:17 but you cant take that kind of penalty against master kaen 13:18 AC -10... ah, but IIRC Spork does cut down on the to-hit bonusses you can get that let you bull through it 13:19 yeah 13:19 prob so, i havent looked that deeply into it 13:19 i do know some monsters get a +5 to hit against you 13:19 and HP generation was redone 13:20 large and above monsters have a lot more hp 13:20 and then more for dragons on top of that 13:23 <@Luxcalibur> spork buffs all nasty monsters' AC 13:23 <@Luxcalibur> you will miss 13:25 I think also you can't score +12ish to hit from Luck. 13:31 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:38 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 13:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:47 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:70248 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24094 14:11 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:12 You hit the ogre king! The ogre king zaps a spiked wand! 14:12 The death ray hits you! Some of it reflects from your medallion! 14:12 You remain unhurt. The ogre king is killed by the death ray! 14:12 \o/ 14:13 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 14:16 <@Luxcalibur> yep, dyna segfault on water plane, shoulda figured 14:16 <@Luxcalibur> gg 14:16 [hdf-us] [dyn] A Certain Peasant Railgun (Luxidream) (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 12700 points, T:41682, quit (with the Amulet) (with the Amulet) 14:18 <@strangefella> Uh what's a segfault? 14:19 short for segmentation fault, the program is trying to access memory the OS hasn't given it access to 14:20 in nethack terms: a crash 14:22 hmm, I wonder why (with the Amulet) appears twice 14:23 why did you quit? 14:23 <@Luxcalibur> K2: it put me one turn before the segfault 14:23 aosdict: I've seen that before. 14:23 <@Luxcalibur> and dyna games are unrecoverable 14:23 ... no, I don't remember when or why, sorry 14:23 hrm 14:25 <@Luxcalibur> I assume it doesn't put you at the beginning of the level so you can't scum, but there was no way for me do anything in that one move 14:25 <@Luxcalibur> so I just quit 14:25 the backtrace from the coredump (dynahack) 14:25 #0 0x00007f6ccab62cef in ?? () 14:25 #1 0x0000004a00000003 in ?? () 14:25 #2 0x000055cdeef8d790 in ?? () 14:25 #3 0x00007ffd56155cd0 in ?? () 14:25 #4 0x00007f6ccab66fab in ?? () 14:25 #5 0x00007ffd56155cd0 in ?? () 14:25 #6 0x0000004a00000003 in ?? () 14:25 #7 0x000055cdef2ae6d0 in ?? () 14:25 #8 0x000055cdeef8d790 in ?? () 14:25 #9 0x000055cdef2ae6d0 in ?? () 14:25 #10 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () 14:25 worthless 14:25 this is helpful 14:26 i need to see if i can recompile it so it spits out something more meaningful 14:26 i think i can, remember reading something about that maybe 14:26 <@Luxcalibur> it's something to do with covetous warping 14:27 <@Luxcalibur> not sure why tungtn made his variant so difficult to debug :V 14:31 ok a lil better - https://termbin.com/s775 14:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 1416 points, T:2847, sent to the next life by a gnome lord 14:31 Reading symbols from /opt/nethack/chroot-autogen-20181209-010520/dynahack/dynahack-data/dynahack...(no debugging symbols found)...done. 14:32 so i need to recompile with debugging on 14:32 i've seen that bit in the readme 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:32686 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:32799 14:42 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 690 points, T:1635, killed by a kitten 14:45 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 357 points, T:552, killed by a giant mimic 14:50 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:58 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 14:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:59 recompiled dynahack with debug mode on 14:59 <[Demo]6> dynahack more like brokenhack 14:59 using new libnitrohack, we now get this 14:59 <[Demo]6> wait is this the same crash as tariru had during jnh? 14:59 https://termbin.com/j7ls 15:00 ^ this is a first for hardfought 15:00 usable backtrace data for dynahack 15:00 <[Demo]6> is this monster migration related? 15:01 @Luxcalibur I also could have tried to rewind that save 15:01 next time dont quit until you've talked to me or Tangles_ 15:02 [Demo]6 i dont know (to both questions) 15:02 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 15:03 <[Demo]6> oh its a plane of water segfault nevermind 15:03 oink 15:04 <[Demo]6> plane of water is prebroken so anything broken about it cant be surprising at all and when it breaks, duck, and take cover 15:05 <@Luxcalibur> K2: I’ve had to quit several games like this after asking you 15:05 <@Luxcalibur> in the past 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:34418 15:07 <@Luxcalibur> you've told me before that it's impossible to rewind dyna games 15:08 well 15:08 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:8638 15:08 that was awhile ago, and i dont mind trying again 15:08 i'm here for you 15:08 <@Luxcalibur> ok, if it happens again, I will let you know 15:09 the reason why we said it was impossible - you'd crack open the save file and nothing was human-readable 15:09 maybe now with the debug symbols baked in, it'll be different 15:11 i should test that... 15:11