00:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:27620 00:14 don't wannit. take it back 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40620 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40621 00:17 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:17 -!- workimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17 D: rip rld 00:17 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:17 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17 :D un-rip rld 00:18 -!- workimer has joined #hardfought 00:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v workimer] by ChanServ 00:18 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 00:18 But wait! rld's medallion begins to glow! rld is un-ripped! The medallion crumbles to dust. 00:19 Sunsword seems like a pretty decent artifact 00:19 Infinite light is nice 00:19 Does solid damage 00:20 Last game I had Sunsword, I also got the Catacombs variant of Mines' End. 00:20 It's great there as well. 00:21 PavelB: I'm an arc and not meant for swords. 00:22 Ohhh. What were you hoping for? 00:22 plus I already have this lovely wished for non-silver (?!) grayswandir 00:22 aosdict, what version? 00:22 xnh 0.4.0 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:40828 00:23 ah 00:23 it's a bug. grayswandir should always be silver 00:24 <[Demo]5> did you get an iron one? 00:24 yep 00:24 K2: pushed fix for this 00:24 <[Demo]5> get a liquid one 00:25 I can't, the bug is just that artifacts always get their base item's material 00:25 since this isn't an artifact splash of venom... it can't be liquid 00:27 I feel like adding `else if (condition) {}` is a less elegant solution than changing the existing `else {...}` to `else if (!condition) {...}` 00:28 Also, `{;}` 00:32 Well, this looks like a bug - I dropped a couple of scrolls in the fire ring around the Sanctum and no incineration 8^P 00:33 it's like "it doesn't count unless the fire trap has already been discovered" - that's a bit weird 00:33 What sort of trigger do fire traps have? 00:34 And how do you drop scrolls on top of a trap without having discovered the trap? 00:34 Did you throw them there? 00:34 nope - I just dropped them while levitating in boots 00:35 I used multi-drop and dropped 2 of them (scrolls of create monster) 00:35 mm 00:35 What's weird is that you can set green slime on fire and get 'You smell paper burning' 00:36 rofl 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:40987 00:37 well that was ugly - tried to melee her (to save WoD's for Rodney)... 00:37 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 00:37 Did Moloch strike her with lightning? 00:39 no - I got that yellow-spotted disease thing and around 100hp in one shot 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40994 00:40 Levitation Boots work fine in Plane of Air, right? (never tried them b4 - couldn't get the ring this time...) 00:41 Yes 00:41 ty ^^ 00:41 Unless you want speed boots. 00:42 I drowned once in the Plane of Water - wasn't thinking right about the bubble thing on that level and took off my =oLevitation in the wrong spot - insta-Drowned - gonna use WW Boots this time on that level 00:43 For Air, I have speed and levitation boots, but no =oLevitation this run, so I'm locked... 00:43 You can't walk on the water in the Plane of Water, as it's all around you and not just on the ground 00:43 <@Luxcalibur> !ping 00:43 @Luxcalibur: Pong! 00:43 Got potions of speed? 00:44 <@Luxcalibur> rld is stil rip 00:44 Andrio: Maybe - I'll check the stash on the way up - can levitation boots still in the Plane of Water? 00:44 still work... 00:45 I guess not... ...hmm... 00:45 They sorta work. You can levitate inside the air bubble, but it won't do much. 00:45 And you don't need it either, for some reason. 00:45 so when the bubble gets small on that level, just don't move for a few rounds? 00:45 Unless you want a bath 00:45 hehe - ic 00:46 You can swim through the Plane of Water 00:46 that's the way I used to do it with the water breathing amulet + oilskin sack 00:54 fun w/mysterious force 8^P 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:41443 00:57 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1652 points, T:1179, killed by a gnome mummy 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:42974 01:33 how do I attack without moving? 01:33 F? 01:34 ty - don't want to fall into water 01:35 * Andrio nods. 01:36 Play xnethack, it doesn't let you move onto water normally 01:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4226 points, T:3186, killed by a shattered potion 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:43311 01:48 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 28 points, T:49, killed by a jackal 01:52 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 205 points, T:404, killed by a brown mold 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:43352 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:43411 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2458784 points, T:43435, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nh361/dumplog/1544478573.nh361.txt 02:01 congrats eraserhead97! 02:01 1st Knight ascension - I like it - thx ^^ - seems to be easier than monk (can wear chest) 02:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 411 points, T:905, killed by a coyote 02:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:09 [hdf-us] [4k] Ocean (oceanseagul) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3114 points, T:991, quit 02:11 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 580 points, T:802, killed by Ms. Zonguldak, the shopkeeper 02:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Law), 92 points, T:152, killed by a boulder 02:21 [hdf-us] [4k] Ocean (oceanseagul) (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 5181 points, T:1436, killed by a bugbear 02:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 20 points, T:88, killed by a water moccasin 02:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 48 points, T:23, killed by something while blind 02:27 how informative 02:28 Eaten by a grue 02:29 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 269 points, T:1006, killed by a gnome zombie 02:32 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 02:35 You dream that you hear someone cursing shoplifters. 02:35 useful dream :-) 02:36 I always wondered how magical sleep works. 02:36 I imagine it to be less thorough than natural sleep, in that you can still hear things like that, but can't do much else 02:36 you can still see your cat doing things 02:36 Mm 02:37 Makes me wonder whether you can be affected by both at the same time. 02:37 (Not in game, but in general) 02:37 -!- hpardis has quit [Client Quit] 02:37 what, sleep and shoplifters? 02:37 If someone casts a sleep spell on you when you were about to fall asleep anyway 02:39 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 02:39 I wish someone had cast a sleep spell on me at 4am this morning 02:40 mm 02:40 (I admit it's my own fault, because I went to bed early because I was very tired, but then I was wide awake at the Worrying Hour) 02:40 my wizard has tried that on me outside the game once. 02:40 Was nice. 02:40 I don't have a pet wizard :-/ 02:40 mm 02:41 They're not for everyone. 02:41 I think I need to zap this 500zm wand at the shopkeeper 02:42 first I'll see how much of the stuff I want the cat will bring me 02:42 Can't just steal it? 02:42 it's on the level with the mines stairs, I'd like to be able to go back and forth 02:43 without having to evade an angry shopkeeper all the time 02:43 I mean I like kops, but not angry shopkeepers 02:45 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 473 points, T:484, killed by a bat 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:21370 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21371 03:12 That food really hit the spot! You feel strong! You must have been exercising diligently. You feel wise! You must have been very observant. You feel tough! You must have been leading a healthy life-style. You finish eating the food ration. 03:12 that was an effective meal :-) 03:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:22563 03:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1553 points, T:2468, killed by a dwarf zombie 03:31 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 03:42 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.6+deb1ubuntu0.1 - http://znc.in] 04:22 ... the same mumak that killed shadowcat 05:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:52 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 06:05 -!- workimer has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:59 !tell K2 More updates for 362dev - reinstated msgtype=alert behaviour for curses (this got squashed in the last merge). 06:59 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Tangles. 07:06 ok 07:06 K2: Message from Tangles at 2018-12-12 06:59 EST: More updates for 362dev - reinstated msgtype=alert behaviour for curses (this got squashed in the last merge). 07:06 Oh hi K2. 07:07 o/ 07:07 just geting up and about 07:07 kid fed, dogs fed... 07:07 I was looking to backport those changes to 3.4.3 and variants (because the --more-- behaviour in curses on those variants is garbage), and I noticed the code was not actually there anymore. 07:08 oh hey 07:08 i might not have died last night if MSGTYPE=alert existed in sporkhack ;) 07:09 oh yeah the soldier wielding the trice? 07:09 elenmirie_: just tamed Coco on level 7 07:09 yeah 07:09 that and trying to cast stone to flesh while wearing shield of reflection and no robe 07:09 blah 07:10 I had a pet titan in my last 3.6.2 game that kept picking up trice corpses and wielding them. Was funny. 07:10 was he wearing gloves or are titans resistant? 07:10 raisse: gloves. 07:11 oh, it's the "killed by an elvenking" bones 07:11 NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers) 07:11 was wearing jumping boots too, but od course did not jump. 07:11 s/od/of/ 07:11 first he puts me to sleep, then he kills me (and I think both cats) with a bolt of cold! 07:11 bad Elvenking 07:12 !lastgame 07:12 raisse: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1544601094.slashem.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nh361/dumplog/1544607916.nh361.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/splicehack/dumplog/1538664092.splice.txt 07:12 xNetHack updated (all servers) 07:13 oh, it only killed Poes, not Coco 07:13 perhaps because Coco was a large cat and Poes still a hosuecat 07:13 K2: the main issue I have with the way the message-window works in 3.4.3, is that when the window fills up, it says '>>', but will continue if you press _any_ key (not just space or enter), and the problem with that is that it will more often than not eat a keystroke that you actually intended for something else. 07:13 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:16 so yeah I'll be fixing that, and changing msgtype=stop to just prompt for space/enter, and add msgtype=alert for the behaviour (which is currently what msgtype=stop does), so the same as what 3.6.2-hdf does now (or will do shortly) 07:16 and adding msgtype=alert behaviour to the tty port too, of course. 07:17 awesome 07:18 QoL for everyone! 07:20 i need to get slex updated today 07:21 and finish reimplementing the remaining scoreboards 07:32 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 83 points, T:117, killed by reverting to unhealthy gnomish form 07:38 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 07:43 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 07:48 K2: 3.4.3-hdf changes are pushed. I'll do some testing of that over the next day or two to make sure it's right before I merge it to the other variants (because that's tedious if you have to do it more than once). 07:55 SWEET 08:02 NetHack 343-hdf updated (all servers) 08:02 ^ quality of life improvements 08:02 PavelB: [backscroll] In this case I had a comment I wanted to make directly for the else if oartifact case and thought the readability of its intent would suffer from being folded into one comment. Don't sweat it too much. 08:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:59197 08:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:59198 08:19 30 food rations 08:19 YUM YUM 08:21 I'm thinking it might not be necessary for *every* dNethack sokocrate to give food... 08:27 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3526 08:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5814 points, T:3972, killed by a large dingo 08:42 !rng take on the minion of huhetotl | take on the minion of huhetotl | too scary 08:42 aosdict: take on the minion of huhetotl 08:45 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:46 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 08:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 08:47 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a mind flayer, on T:28762 08:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 117 points, T:492, killed by a goblin 08:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:28803 08:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28822 08:55 I was just going to suggest whacking him with a potion of paralysis but polying into a mind flayer was a good plan too 09:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 467 points, T:1070, killed by a rabbit, while helpless 09:11 The little dog drops a dagger. It hits! 09:11 I don't like self-hitting daggers. 09:13 raisse: I think I just diluted my paralysis, anyway. 09:14 The only real risky spot was where the one spell he got off was summon nasties. 09:17 hdf scoreboard is back in business 09:17 minus slex, will finish it after i pull over the new version 09:25 [hdf-us] [4k] kmoz (zor) (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 4962 points, T:556, killed by an acid blob 09:49 !whereis aosdict 09:49 PavelB: aosdict is not playing. 09:49 K2: Whereis broken for xnh 09:49 k 09:51 !who 09:51 K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] oh6 [nh362] samiam [nh362] bouquet [nh362] Noah [spl] k2 [xnh] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] mightyquinn [sp] spontiff [dnh] Raisse [nh362] jailbird [un] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:51 !whereis k2 09:51 I mean, I wasn't playing xnh just now. 09:51 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [xnh]: No details available 09:51 but it is broken 09:51 i remember telling myself to remind myself about it a few days ago 09:52 lemme make sure it's not something on my end 09:52 and then a few days from now, you will recall remembering telling yourself to remind yourself about it 09:52 if i remember 09:53 yeah the .whereis file isnt being generated 09:53 lets look at config.h 09:54 aaaaahhh 09:54 i see 09:54 aosdict your dgamelaunch define 09:54 i didnt uncomment it out 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:29345 09:55 explains why extrainfo isnt working either 09:55 easy fix 09:56 PSA: identify those wands you've been carrying around for 20k turns... might be a /oW! 09:56 !whereis k2 09:56 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [xnh]: (Arc Hum Mal Law) T:8 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 09:56 \o/ 09:57 K2: ideally you would use -DDGAMELAUNCH in a hints file rather than editing config.h 09:57 huh... i did remember to include that define on eu and au servers 09:58 yeah 09:58 i'll do that next time you push an update 09:59 ok. time to update slex 09:59 god help us all 10:02 !tell shadowcat excellent bones with SDSM! 10:02 Will do, raisse! 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5975 10:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:03 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] strangefella (Nob Hum Mal Law), 146 points, T:504, killed by a boulder 10:06 also yet another magic lamp, I've got 4 now (2 cursed, 1 probably cursed, 1 uncursed) 10:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] strangefella (Ana Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:491 10:14 weird, the castle chest is trapped, I thought that wasn't supposed to happen any more in 3.6.1 10:18 it's not. 10:18 there's a fixes36.1 line about it 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:43557 10:23 [hdf-us] [4k] Jonadab (jonadab) (Bar Hum Fem Law) entered the Minetown temple, on T:12271 10:25 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] strangefella (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 6489 points, T:2264, quit 10:47 finally 10:47 didn't have a coaligned altar (or indeed any altar at all except the neutral one in minetown) until now 10:47 the probably cursed magic lamp turns out to be uncursed, but with shadowcat's bones I don't really need anything badly enough for a wish 10:52 argh a rock mole in a treasure zoo 10:53 treasure left: 5 gold pieces 10:53 and a very fat rock mole 10:54 The coyote turns into a goblin! The goblin turns into a Keystone Kop! The magic-absorbing blade scares the Keystone Kop! The Keystone Kop is confused. 10:54 LarienTelrunya - Unix SlashEMExtended Version 2.4.2 (3c56ab06) - last build Wed Dec 12 10:37:45 2018. 10:55 that's hdf-us, working on other 2 now 10:55 scoreboard is active now too for slex 10:55 please warn if eu is going down so I can save 10:55 K2: cool! do I have to restart dgamelaunch to get 2.42? 10:55 yes 10:55 raisse i never have to take down a server to update a variant 10:55 ah right 10:56 aosdict: well, I got a warning about a trap when I went to unlock it with the master key of thievery 10:56 yaaaaaaaay yayayayayayayay the alias name thing is really working now :D:D:D in 2.3.8 it was bugged but now it works! jilles: thanks again for the help, without you I wouldn't have found that bug :) 10:56 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:57 @Luxcalibur: you here? play SLEX 2.4.2 now on hardfought with the ability to give funny alias names to your character! *bundlebundlebundle* โ™ฅ 10:57 thanks a lot K2! :) 10:57 np 10:57 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:58 K2: did the cmd.c/date.h thing go down without a hitch this time or is that old dependency bug still there? 10:58 i didnt have any issues with compile 10:59 wow cool, that means my fix for the issue worked, I honestly didn't expect that :) 10:59 never thought i'd say that in relation to slex 10:59 its a christmas miracle! 10:59 and an early one too! :D 11:00 now I just need to bundle a couple slex players who haven't been playing lately in the hopes of seeing them play again ;) 11:00 cough luxidream cough 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1174 points, T:2046, killed by a hill orc 11:12 on 3 consecutive levels , an anthole 11:12 I'm leaving them well alone for now 11:12 antholes don't seem to be very interesting as a special room 11:12 they have a lot of food, which there is already a lot of, and which beehives do better 11:12 they're great if you're short on food 11:16 yes but I'm not (have 15 food rations in the bag) 11:16 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 11488 points, T:11587, zombified by a gnomish zombie 11:16 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:16 also a small handful of royal jelly from a tiny (5 bees and the queen) beehive 11:16 yeah. THREE times 11:17 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 11:17 i hope i can get the bones. i dropped everything 11:20 K2: If you could generate a beehive in place of every anthole, that would be better 11:20 easier for the player you mean 11:20 'better' is relative 11:20 even queen bees aren't as scary as soldier ants 11:21 (mostly because there's only one of them) 11:21 another small beehive, another 2 lumps of royal jelly 11:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] strangefella (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 215 points, T:452, choked on a food ration 11:22 [hdf-us] [fh] loelf (strangefella) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1514 points, T:42, killed by an Angel of Lugh, while praying 11:27 LarienTelrunya 2.4.2 is on eu server now 11:27 au only one left 11:27 yaaaaay! 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1893 11:37 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 16522 points, T:9208, killed by a fire ant 11:39 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:39 !who 11:39 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:39 K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] rebatela [nh362] samiam [nh362] oh6 [nh362] Noah [spl] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [dnh] Graznop [nh362] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:40 <@ahrimen> I'm trying to ssh into hardfought, has the "ECDSA host key" changed recently? 11:40 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 11:40 yes 11:40 <@ahrimen> I checked the pinned messages on this channel, they didn't anything 11:40 server migration occurred last weekend 11:40 <@Tone> Yes it has 11:41 oh discord 11:41 <@Tone> The US server was migrated a few days ago 11:41 i updated the motd for irc 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2938 points, T:3081, killed by a rothe 11:41 but i guess discord channel didnt get the news 11:41 <@ahrimen> cool, just wanted to be sure. Thanks! 11:41 good to check 11:41 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10898 11:45 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 16320 points, T:11211, poisoned by a bad pill 11:46 damn LarienTelrunya what all did you do to slex 2.4.2 11:46 i'm having trouble compiling it on the AU server 11:46 keeps running out of memory 11:46 wtf? 11:46 which file? 11:46 (AU server is a t2.micro, one CPU and only 1GB ram) 11:46 src/allmain.c 11:47 right now it going ok 11:47 i had to restart the compile 11:47 ugh 11:47 but currently 99% of available memory is being used on hdf-au 11:47 yeah I've also noticed that compiling allmain.c is taking forever, my guess is that it's because of some macro? 11:47 you tell me 11:48 -!- lonjil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:48 hdf-us and eu have more resources, so i never had issues (although I did notice compile time took longer than usual) 11:48 if I knew at which exact line the out of memory error occurs, I'd probably be able to track down which macro is causing it 11:48 you'll prob want to run it through valgrind then 11:48 I'll probably have to experiment locally to see if I can get that taken care of 11:49 this will take forever... if it even makes it that far 11:50 would prob be easier for me to just upload the compiled version from one of the other 2 servers 11:50 yeah it's an issue I still need to iron out 11:50 i'll do that from home 11:56 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 40 points, T:233, killed by a kobold 11:58 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2501 points, T:2545, killed by a black unicorn 11:58 <@Noah> Not THAT fireproof it would seem... 11:58 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:42, killed by trying to drink lava 11:59 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 12:06 4K turns and still no intrinsic telepathy. 12:08 Let's Play NetHack Fourk, Episode 20, Cleaver and Minetown: https://youtu.be/2qfBWaNZrto 12:08 I should really continue my various Let's Play SLEX's someday :D 12:08 (one video and one screenshot LP) 12:10 <@Noah> Oh sorry. No Beholder. I tried quaffing a furnace as an infernal rogue in SpliceHack... 12:11 * aosdict pokes beholder 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5111 12:11 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 569 points, T:983, killed by a giant bat 12:12 @Noah I imagine that infernals are fireproof but do not likes_lava, like salamanders. 12:13 jonadab: about your LP of fourk, are you updating it regularly enough that you won't run into savebreak problems? because that's one thing holding me off from LPing slex, the fact that I do frequent savebreaks 12:14 LarienTelrunya: I'm playing on the public server. So it's the compatible-with-4.3.0.4 branch. 12:14 Savebreaks happen on the bleeding-edge branch, which will eventually become 4.3.0.5 12:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 158 points, T:266, killed by a water moccasin 12:15 ahh you're LPing on the server, I see 12:15 when I LP slex, I play offline 12:16 I wanted the verifiability of the server. It's bad enough I'm LPing my own variant. Though I did put a disclaimer about that in the first episode. 12:16 isn't it the logical thing to do to play one's own variant though? 12:16 as a variant developer, that is 12:17 Not really; but nobody else was doing Let's Plays of Fourk, and so I decided eventually to go ahead and do them myself. 12:17 * aosdict is currently playing xnethack on a bug hunt and has found one major bug 12:17 well nobody else is doing LPs of slex either, so I have to do them myself too :D 12:17 If I manage to ascend, I'll probably switch to doing Let's Plays of FIQHack. 12:17 I'm wondering what it's like for other variants? 12:18 jonadab: No. You have to LP through all the unlockables. 12:18 aosdict: That branch isn't save-stable yet. 12:18 e.g. there are probably no grunthack LPs 12:18 Oooh, Grunt. 12:18 There's a thought. 12:18 K2 or hothraxxa could concievably do one 12:18 or me 12:18 or jilles 12:19 I could do Grunt. I probably wouldn't ascend, but. I had one game where I managed to get to Demogorgon's Lair. 12:20 haha i think mine would need a bleeper 12:20 we dont censor 12:21 *bleep* *bleep* stupid cat *bleep* you anhur 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:6449 12:21 My vocabulary is sufficiently diverse as to usually not require bleeping. 12:22 i have an unusually large vocabulary. it includes many cursing terms and i use them freely 12:22 Ah. 12:22 -!- lonjil has joined #hardfought 12:22 my screenshot LP is on a website where I'd probably need to censor even the completely harmless word "bitch"... *rolls eyes* 12:22 I tend more toward gratuitously prolix, obnubilatory lexemes. 12:22 how do you do them anyway? 12:23 i mean prepare them 12:24 obnubilatory, that's a new one 12:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:25 obnubilatory reminds me of the blackadder episode with samuel johnson 12:25 your words frighten and confuse my primitive caveman brain 12:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 318 points, T:1020, killed by a kobold zombie 12:26 K2: "Ogg not know big words. Ogg hit big word man with stick." ? 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7006 12:27 ^^ that 12:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:28 Then perhaps I won't need to bust out the unattested neologisms. 12:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 230 points, T:542, killed by a rabbit 12:31 -!- workimer has joined #hardfought 12:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v workimer] by ChanServ 12:34 -!- remirol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:36 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 22 points, T:27, killed by a water moccasin 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) wished for "holy greased fixed +3 speed boots of spinach", on T:60997 12:41 I have a long sword named Demonsbane and a long sword named Excalibur. 12:42 Which one should I use? 12:42 Excalibur is the better of those two. 12:42 ok 12:42 excalibur gives automatic searching and drain resistance 12:42 When should I use demonbane? 12:43 you probably shouldn't because by the time you see demons, you'll have better options 12:43 ok 12:43 Unless you're in a variant that buffs it. 12:43 if you summon a water demon or a foocubi that you don't want, use it 12:44 (fourk, xnethack, ???) 12:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:44 he plays demonhack 12:44 aosdict: does it ever match excalibur? 12:44 IIRC, +0 Excalibur would be better against demons than +0 demonbane, but +7 demonbane would be better against demons (specifically, not other things) than +7 Excalibur. 12:45 So unless you are sufficiently afraid of demons to enchant a second weapon just for them, I would probably stash demonbane, if I had excalibur. 12:45 in the early game, demonbane is much inferior except in the edge cases i mentioned 12:45 hothraxxa: in xnethack it is silver so it gets its double damage to demons on top of the silver damage 12:45 so if you want to kill & there's not really anything better 12:45 Ah, that would be another matter. 12:45 it also prevents gating in 3.6.1 12:45 Silver would also be useful against werefoo. 12:46 which is good for bosses 12:46 Ah, indeed. 12:46 if you don't want orcus to summon demogorgon, for instance 12:46 demonbane is useful in sporkhack 12:46 its a silver mace 12:46 Ah, so good for priests. 12:46 yup 12:46 Yeah, I've considered making it a mace and retaining its silverness and other properties. 12:46 and its their first artifact sac weapon 12:47 i ported that behavior/template over into evilhack 12:47 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 342 points, T:589, killed by a gnome mummy 12:51 k2: tell me about evilhack chameleons 12:51 they are currently the same as 3.6.2 chameleons 12:51 i havent touched them 12:52 should i? 12:52 depends on how evil you want to be. you remember grunt chameleons don't you? 12:52 yeah 12:52 I havd two luckstones now 12:52 i got royally screwed over by one in my last game 12:52 * Xaleth dabs 12:53 they arent any different i didnt think 12:53 other than showing up earlier 12:53 they're different. when you kill a shapeshifted chameleon it reverts to chameleon for with full hp 12:54 oh right 12:54 which likely shifts again before you can kill it and so the process repeats 12:54 thats not just chameleons 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1468 points, T:5484, killed by a jaguar 12:54 its any polyform 12:54 no it's all shapeshifters 12:54 right 12:54 they were given the same behavior as the player 12:54 HOWEVER the chameleon shifts again and this means you might have to kill it six or seven times 12:54 That would be _somewhat_ more reasonable if reverting left it with a sufficiently high timeout on its ability to shapeshift again. 12:54 you poly, you revert instead of die (unless wearing amulet of unchanging) 12:55 Cooldown. 12:55 hothraxxa right, that was by design 12:55 that's making its way into evilhack 12:55 will prob tweak it some 12:56 If you want to be really evil, just give chameleons the ability to choose their form based on whatever they think will be most effective against the player. 12:56 make it so that every time you kill it and revert it to chameleon form, it has a chance of becoming canceled. 12:56 jonadab then they'd always be archons 12:56 or beholders 12:56 the one i had in minetown was shifted to something, i killed it, it became a chameleon, i nearly killed it, it shifted to a minflayer and sucked my brains down to in:10, i killed it, it became a chameleoen again, i almost killed it, it became a rust monster and rusted my iron shoes completely away, i killed it, it reverted, i finally killed it 12:56 must have been a glorious battle 12:57 well i should have been making an LP 12:57 Also, when it shapeshifts, it should store its previous HP somewhere and restore them on revert, not just revert to full HP. 12:57 "this is why you don't play grunt kiddies" 12:57 Heh. 12:57 jonadab: then it wouldn't be like the player 12:57 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:58 hothraxxa: It should probably work that way for the player too, tbh. 12:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:58 hothraxxa: It does work that way for the player. 12:58 i don't disagree, but some players would hate you 12:58 wait, whut? 12:58 When you polymorph at less than full HP, and then your poly ends, your original HP is restored. 12:58 It's not a free full heal. 12:59 hm. i did not think that. istr getting full hp back, but perhaps i'm getting too old 12:59 This has bitten a few players who manage to get the second health bar when low on HP... and then the polyform gets killed and the monster makes quick work of their remaining real health. 12:59 It's common to be nearly full HP when you poly. 12:59 But u.uhp and u.mhp are separate variables. 12:59 Does amulet of magical breathing resist choking? 13:00 Yes. 13:00 i don't do it often enough i guess 13:00 Though I don't know what happens if you *eat* an amulet of magical breathing. Perhaps nothing? 13:00 jonadab: You get it intrinsically 1/3 of the time like normal 13:00 the rest of the time, nothing 13:02 I have 4 luckstones 13:02 * Xaleth dabs 13:05 The nethack wiki says that luck affects many aspects of the game, but what aspects, in particular? 13:05 Too many to list, though most of them are minor effects that don't come up that much. 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:47946 13:06 Most prominently, you chance of hitting things increases steadily with your luck. 13:06 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 3018 points, T:4433, slain by a soldier ant 13:07 So I basically have a 100% chance of hitting things with 4 luckstones. 13:10 No, luckstones don't stack. 13:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:10 Having 4 is the same as having 1. 13:10 (the +3) 13:14 oh 13:14 -!- Xaleth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 2158 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:48667 13:19 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 31 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:49241 13:27 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 13:32 So, I get disconnected from hardfought several times in a day. Could I be doing something wrong? 13:35 as in, during an active game you get disconnected? 13:36 or are you idling? 13:36 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50181 13:38 muahaha, I have recovered my silver amulet of life saving from the dastardly water nymph thief who put it on 13:38 K2: he didn't have putty's TCP keepalives on, which is probably why he got disconnected; however his disconnected game is still running on the server even after 13 minutes now?! shouldn't it automatically close after a bit if it doesn't detect a connection? 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50280 13:39 Antichthon 13:39 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha), 614 points, T:3036, sent to the next life by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 13:39 i can kill that process 13:40 K2: I'm not Antichthon but I'm wondering, will that act like it crashed or trigger it to autosave? probably the former? 13:41 otherwise I guess it would autoclose (and save) after 60 minutes? 13:41 go ahead and kill it. If it's the TCP keepalives problem, I've fixed that and hopefully it won't be a problem anymore. 13:41 yeah it shows he's playing because the level files are still present 13:41 i can kill the game and recover those 13:42 Antichthon do me a favor and log out of dgl completely please 13:42 done. 13:43 aosdict: I wasn't sure because some of the jewelry traits can be gained intrinsically, others not. 13:43 here's me hoping that slex's recover utility works correctly this time (it should, I've fixed that bug we saw when Tariru got that crash back then) 13:44 ok Antichthon give it a go 13:45 brb 13:45 It works. Thanks! 13:45 *phew* 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bartlem (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1906 points, T:2220, killed by a small mimic 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] archery (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:59177 14:10 <@Tone> ha ๐Ÿ˜„ 14:12 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 14:16 <@Noah> The legend said I was completely immune to fire! Also the wiki entry is pretty suggestive about furnaces. I thought for sure I was going to get a cool effect! 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:51099 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 543 points, T:668, killed by a bolt of cold 14:19 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:24 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:24 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 14:30 <@Tone> Is that fire immunity distinct from fire resistance? 14:32 -!- eraserhead has joined #hardfought 14:37 <@Luxcalibur> Splicehack furnaces have lava XD 14:38 <@Luxcalibur> donโ€™t drink lava 14:40 yooooo @Luxcalibur my man! I have a fantastic present for you! SLEX 2.42 is playable on hardfought now and you can really give alias names to your characters! *bundlebundlebundle* โ™ฅ 14:42 <@mtf> ughhhh 14:43 LarienTelrunya: I'm not sure he heard you. 14:43 <@mtf> this is happening every day now 14:43 <@mtf> pissing me off 14:43 aosdict: why not? is that not how you ping discordians? 14:43 see mtf comments 14:43 occasionally, the irc->discord communication just... dies 14:43 but not the other way 14:43 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43 what? so we can read what Luxcalibur says but he's not seeing anything that we say? 14:44 yeah 14:44 ^ that quit was mtf bouncing it manually 14:44 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 14:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 14:45 <@mtf> should be coming back up 14:45 <@mtf> hmmm 14:45 <@mtf> and I see this in the logs error: Received error event from IRC prefix=tolkien.freenode.net, server=tolkien.freenode.net, command=err_notregistered, rawCommand=451, commandType=error, args=[*, You have not registered] info: Connected to IRC error: Received error event from IRC prefix=tolkien.freenode.net, server=tolkien.freenode.net, command=err_cannotsendtochan, rawCommand=404, commandType=error, args=[rld, 14:45 ##adom-discord, Cannot send to nick/channel] This looks similar to the problem I had with #dcss-discord... I've removed the adom channel from the bot for now 14:45 <@mtf> lets see if that helps 14:45 test? 14:45 can you see that? 14:46 <@mtf> hello stenno 14:46 hi 14:46 Hello stenno, Welcome to #hardfought 14:46 <@mtf> xD 14:46 :| 14:46 lol 14:46 oh you connect directly to tolkien? 14:46 does rld do sasl and the stuff? 14:47 so the error is that rld is somehow unregistering? 14:48 or else it unregisters when someone says something in #adom? 14:48 maybe adom is registered talk only 14:48 and then the bot dies because it cannot handle it 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Val Hum Fem Law), 297 points, T:725, killed by a water moccasin 14:49 <@mtf> I have it configured to connect to chat.us.freenode.net 14:49 <@mtf> not sure about sasl 14:49 oh ok 14:49 <@mtf> could be registered talk only? I'm not super experienced with IRC, I just registered it with some instructions I found online 14:50 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:50 <@mtf> but previously the bot was fucking up because of problems in the dcss-discord connection... so I guess that could be happening again here with the adom channel 14:51 @mtf just register the nick for the bot 14:51 and have it auth everytime is connects 14:51 otherwise its mode +R for it automatically 14:51 <@mtf> see I had thought I did that? 14:52 <@mtf> not sure about authing on each connect tho 14:52 that should be easy 14:52 beholder does 14:52 rld is already registered 14:52 right but it needs to auth with nickserv everytime it connects 14:52 but it is authed, it has a cloak 14:52 <@mtf> here's what I have configured on connect: "autoSendCommands": [ // Commands that will be sent on connect ["PRIVMSG", "NickServ", "IDENTIFY thisisnottherealpassword=P"] 14:53 ooh ok 14:53 @mtf then yeah check out SASL 14:53 <@mtf> so that seems like it should be doing that? 14:53 SASL is the clean way of doing that 14:53 ^ that 14:53 i think those autosendcommands are unreliable 14:53 <@mtf> I see 14:53 znc uses those same commands, work everytime 14:54 or rather, you cannot prevent channel join before this command has completed 14:54 <@mtf> no idea if the bot supports it, or what that entails... guess I'll have to do some research 14:54 @mtf i think i asked you once before, what does the rld bot run off of? 14:54 <@mtf> https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc 14:55 node <3 14:55 <@mtf> OOOOH I just noticed, there's a new feature 14:55 do you want me to run it off of hdf-us? 14:55 <@mtf> to let the bot use discord avatars when people in IRC who have accounts talk ๐Ÿ˜„ 14:55 <@mtf> @K2 I'm running it on my personal server, if you'd like to help with debugging this (and even running it) I can give you access 14:56 @mtf the bot has a 'sasl' option :D 14:56 <@mtf> ahhh perfect 14:56 not sure how much help i'd be as far as debugging code 14:56 "ircOptions": { "sasl": true } 14:57 i am not java guy 14:57 <@mtf> "ircOptions": { // Optional node-irc options "floodProtection": false, // On by default "floodProtectionDelay": 1000, // 500 by default "port": "6697", // 6697 by default "secure": true, // enable SSL, false by default "sasl": true, // false by default "username": "test", // nodeirc by default "password": "p455w0rd" // empty by default }, 14:57 yeah 14:57 <@mtf> so I'm guessing we can put on sasl, and just enter the username and pass I have registered for RLD? 14:57 yes 14:57 and comment out the autoconnect commands 14:57 <@mtf> alright I will certainly try this... I'll play around with it later today after work 14:57 <@mtf> right 14:57 LarienTelrunya: don't you have the problem when you're playing your own game and encounter something you want to change (be it a bug or you see the potential for an improvement) that you stop playing immediately and start programming? 14:58 but from extensive personal experience, running a service like this on a dedicated server would be better than running from a personal server at the house :) 14:58 <@mtf> no no k2, this is a personal dedicated server I have hosted in a datacenter in dallas 14:58 oh i see 14:58 nm then 14:58 <@mtf> I'm (eventually) planning on using it to create a roguelike multiplayer server that will host every possible roguelike 14:58 i envisioned you running this on an old celeron winxp box on your desk :P 14:59 bhaak: I force myself not to do that. 14:59 <@mtf> hahah nah ๐Ÿ˜› that would make sense considering all of the problems we've had though >.> 14:59 bhaak: if that happens, at the very least I immediately write it down, and yes I've sometimes paused my characters until I've fixed the bug in question 14:59 @mtf wow *every* known roguelike? 14:59 @mtf stuff like cogmind is on a server? 14:59 <@mtf> as many as I could fit into the client I plan on building 14:59 <@mtf> ADOM, nethack, dcss, tome, etc 14:59 could just proxy to hardfought for all the nethack stuff :P 15:00 dgl proxy feature 15:00 that would be nifty 15:00 <@mtf> not a bad idea stenno 15:00 yeah I'm sure mtf doesn't want to host all the hack and band variants. 15:00 dgl doesnt have a proxy feature does it? i dont remember seeing one 15:00 @K2 not to my knowledge 15:00 <@mtf> but yea I picked up the roguelikes.live domain with the intention of creating a huge community server 15:00 quick dtype 15:00 weird - found 2 bags in shop w/150zm,200zm prices - always thought they'd be the same (given the same base) 15:01 <@mtf> haven't put much effort into it yet tho =/ 15:01 * K2 consults the Book of Summoning and chants the name 'dtype' 15:02 is paxed the official dgl maintainer now btw? 15:02 it's hosted on his GH 15:03 <@mtf> aos: and no cogmind isn't on a server unfortunately ๐Ÿ˜ฆ we'd only be able to support games that are currently able to be run on public servers 15:03 stenno they havent updated it in years 15:04 hm right 15:04 latest updates have come from kerio and Tangles 15:04 last commit in 2016 15:04 oh yeah kerios crypto thing i guess 15:04 yup 15:04 and tangles support for fiqhack's new watchmode 15:04 (nethack4 has it too) 15:05 ooh nh4 in DGL 15:06 nh4 in dgl has been around for as long as nethack4.org has hosted it, no...? 15:07 nh4 didn't use dgl, did it? 15:07 nethack4.org that is 15:08 oh rip i don't have telnet anymore 15:09 stenno, i meant nh4 has the improved watchmode that fiqhack has 15:09 well yeah 15:10 doh 15:11 <@Luxcalibur> !lastgame 15:11 @Luxcalibur: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/i/iyarkonan/nh361/dumplog/1544643870.nh361.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jailbird/un531/dumplog/1544422060.un531.txt.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nh343/dumplog/1544620348.nh343.txt 15:11 @Luxcalibur: test message, can you read this? 15:11 <@Luxcalibur> yes 15:11 <@Luxcalibur> did you say something to me earlier? if so I probably missed it 15:11 yay! I'll repost what I said: yooooo @Luxcalibur my man! I have a fantastic present for you! SLEX 2.42 is playable on hardfought now and you can really give alias names to your characters! *bundlebundlebundle* โ™ฅ 15:11 K2: i just had the impression that nethack4.org didn't run dgl 15:12 i dont know if it does or not 15:12 never connected to it 15:12 lets connect! 15:13 ah its asking me for a password 15:13 i think it's down? 15:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 16529 points, T:7408, petrified by tasting chickatrice meat 15:14 nope i'm in 15:14 stenno: well then, since hdf has had nethack4 15:14 ...which is a lot less than I was imagining because the hdf nethack server is deceptively young 15:14 hmm registration failed 15:14 but its up 15:14 is it dgl? 15:14 <@Luxcalibur> amy halp 15:14 no 15:15 ssh nethack43@nethack4.org 15:15 aah 15:15 password is same as username 15:15 <@Luxcalibur> I put in ZRUTINATOR 2.0 as my name and the game froze 15:15 <@mtf> oh no 15:15 <@Tone> hehe 15:15 <@mtf> k2 what have you done 15:15 <@machinespray> haha 15:15 <@Tone> :stupefy: 15:15 @Luxcalibur noooooooou! 15:15 <@can't think of a holiday name> :whodaresawakenme: 15:15 oh that channel ping thing again? 15:15 haha 15:15 <@mtf> lol yes xD 15:16 <@can't think of a holiday name> who wrote IRCBot. I wanna yell at em 15:16 LarienTelrunya: Testing In Productionโ„ข 15:16 <@Luxcalibur> wait amy it finally loaded 15:16 doesn't survive the first user 15:16 <@Luxcalibur> it just took a year and a half 15:16 good software is like banana, it ripens at the customer 15:16 @Luxcalibur: sorry about that, I'm still trying to track down the cause of that loading lag 15:16 @mtf ? 15:16 stenno: It's not channel ping, it's *everyone on that discord who has a nethack affiliation* 15:17 ah 15:17 <@mtf> k2: you just pinged everyone in discord with the nethack role xD 15:17 oh good 15:17 why is that even possible 15:17 have fun discord 15:17 nethack 15:17 K2: i think you have to add an @ before that 15:17 <@Luxcalibur> OK never mind amy it crashes whenever I try to move 15:17 @nethack 15:18 yeah like that 15:18 pingpingping 15:18 @Luxcalibur waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 15:18 <@mtf> omg k 15:18 <@TaxiPone> please don't... ._. 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:18261 15:18 WTF 15:18 I can reproduce, but... why :/ 15:18 doesn't that get abused all the time though 15:18 this is a test of the nethack emergency broadcast system. this is only a test 15:18 <@machinespray> That's one way to get the server members on fixing the bot. :P 15:18 i mean if that was on freenode that would be horrible 15:18 nothing to see here, move along 15:18 K2: well damn... can you please check whether there's a core dump for slex that was just created on hdf-us? 15:19 LarienTelrunya ok 15:19 <@mtf> stenno: It's not usually a problem, as we don't have people intentionally doing the ping through IRC often ๐Ÿ˜› 15:19 @mtf maybe you can get the bot to auto translate the cursed word into something that doesn't work 15:19 this cannot be! what is causing the game to crash :( 15:19 <@can't think of a holiday name> that's it i'm firing whoever wrote the bot 15:19 hah 15:19 * K2 pets rld 15:19 K2: a great way to make advertisement for hardfought, come to think of it 15:19 <@can't think of a holiday name> christmas is ruined 15:19 <@Tone> We need to teach rld to recognize emails 15:19 because god forbid someone tells someone else how to email the devteam 15:19 yeah but that would backfire 15:19 no one likes spam 15:19 <@Poorly Cropped Christmas Dog> W Excuse me what the fuck 15:19 wtf hdf-slex 2.42 is somehow bugged, even when not giving an alias name it crashes instantly??? 15:19 <@mtf> not sure how I'd do that without modifying the bot and re compiling... 15:19 oh have fun validating emails 15:20 its unbelievably complex 15:20 <@can't think of a holiday name> I mean 15:20 <@can't think of a holiday name> we could just edit the bot or something to put an invisible character after @ symbols if we wanna go the quick route 15:20 "hello world"@foo is a valid email 15:20 why does at symbol nethack even do that ? 15:20 <@can't think of a holiday name> yeah I wrote a guide on how to validate emails once 15:20 <@can't think of a holiday name> step 1: don't 15:20 <@mtf> not the worst idea 15:20 <@Tone> @can't think of a holiday name we actually use it to ping though 15:20 <@can't think of a holiday name> basically over here on Discord doing (at)Nethack pings a role we have called Nethack 15:21 <@mtf> k2: because the roles are used for advertisements 15:21 <@can't think of a holiday name> because 15:21 <@can't think of a holiday name> yeah 15:21 <@Theyflower> The first ping was fun funny 15:21 <@mtf> @Theyflower direct your anger at k2 plz 15:21 the 2nd one was just me being an asshole right? ;) 15:21 something with hdf-us-slex must be bugged, because it doesn't crash on hdf-eu 15:21 <@Theyflower> Yes I saw 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh4] @nethack @nethack @nethack (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6872 points, T:205, killed by a jackal called "@nethack" 15:21 <@mtf> ............. 15:21 oh boy.. 15:21 LOL 15:21 <@mtf> guys, cmon 15:21 <@can't think of a holiday name> @Tone fair point. maybe we could do something like having it only put the character if it matches a pingable role here? 15:21 <@Theyflower> K2 can you ipban that person 15:22 <@can't think of a holiday name> like for (at)Tone it wouldn't do it, but if it matched (at)NetHack it would 15:22 that was the bot 15:22 ipban luxidream? LUXIDREAM? 15:22 <@Tone> @can't think of a holiday name that seems reasonable 15:22 and that was luxidream 15:22 <@can't think of a holiday name> so you could ping individuals, just not the entire role 15:22 <@mtf> that was luxi, he's done it before 15:22 @Luxcalibur hah dont 15:22 gj K2 15:22 <@Luxcalibur> ok I'll stop 15:22 yup its my fault 15:22 <@Theyflower> Like just a week 15:22 :D 15:23 so is cancer 15:23 subscriptions to luxidream makes up 62% of hdf ad revenue 15:23 you can blame me for that too 15:23 <@mtf> I'd really rather not deal with a bunch of angry discord users please 15:23 <@Theyflower> I'm an agry discord user 15:23 <@Tone> Next time rld dies mtf is going to leave it be now 15:23 <@Theyflower> An I'm also angry 15:23 <@mtf> hehe 15:23 hangry? 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Tmasher (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:1965 15:23 here have a snickers 15:23 <@machinespray> @mtf#3817 Do messages encased with those ping? If not that's a possible solution if the bot is modified to do that. 15:24 <@Theyflower> They don't ping 15:24 <@Theyflower> @nethack 15:24 <@Theyflower> That's how I complain about @everyone in servers that let people abuse it 15:24 rofl 15:24 <@mtf> luckily I have banned @ everyone for normal users 15:24 that wasnt me that time @mtf 15:24 <@can't think of a holiday name> haven't banned it for me though 15:24 <@can't think of a holiday name> @everyo- no, i wouldn't dare 15:25 insert a random emoji after the @ 15:25 <@machinespray> someone lives life on the edge :P 15:25 @๐Ÿ’ฉnethack 15:25 <@Tone> That's wasn't random, was it stenno? :O 15:25 they'll look back and say this is how the revolution started... 15:25 and you can't ban (at)nethack from working? 15:25 <@Tone> Whoops, I meant to :P 15:25 K2: sorry to be an annoyance, but is there a core dump for slex on hdf-us? somehow the game always crashes if you try to move, but on hdf-eu (which has the same 2.42 version) it doesn't do that 15:26 gasp! 15:26 <@can't think of a holiday name> discord really needs a way to stop specific people from pinging roles honestly 15:26 <@can't think of a holiday name> like, a permission or something 15:26 (it wasn't random :P) 15:26 <@machinespray> I'm pretty sure that exists. 15:26 LarienTelrunya there is one but its from a few hrs ago (2.4.2) 15:26 <@can't think of a holiday name> cause this is an issue I deal with in every server I moderate 15:26 <@mtf> aos: I want @ nethack to work most of the time... we use it for a reason. It's when people abuse it that it becomes a problem 15:26 <@can't think of a holiday name> nope, you can only stop everyone from pinging a role - the role is either pingable by everyone or it's not 15:26 <@mtf> I'm not even opposed to letting the bot send out @ nethack pings because people in hardfought might want to draw more attention to one of their game sor something 15:26 @can't think of a holiday name i am REALLy surprised it doesn't have that already 15:26 @mtf kill them 15:26 K2: huh?! there should be one from right now... gah 15:26 there isnt 15:26 the hell 15:26 not everything causes a segfault 15:26 <@mtf> but moderating in IRC is a bit harder, especially when the IRC owner joins in ๐Ÿ˜› 15:27 no paniclog either 15:27 @can't think of a holiday name like one would assume only the role admins (are there such a thing?) can ping all members of a role (group) 15:27 urgh... 15:27 <@mtf> nah, that's not how we have them set up stenno 15:28 I imagine @Tone can ping @ nethack when he announces he's streaming 15:28 <@mtf> they are for use by everybody who wants to get news / stream advertisements for whatever game the role is attached to 15:28 <@mtf> yes, that's exactly what he does aos 15:28 ah ok 15:28 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided gnoll shaman, on T:41747 15:28 so it's a conscious decision to have it like that 15:28 @mtf since discord has a service that (by all appearances) no one likes, it should be shut off and only turned on when it needs to be used for legit purposes 15:28 <@mtf> we've had relatively few incidents with pings as well.. generally I'll just ban anyone that abuses it 15:29 right 15:29 <@can't think of a holiday name> we don't get enough incidents with pings to really care that much 15:29 <@mtf> k2: what are you referring to exactly? 15:29 the (at)nethack thing 15:29 @can't think of a holiday name sounds like a challenge... 15:29 <@mtf> this isn't a standard discord thing... we set it up intentionally 15:29 <@can't think of a holiday name> that is not a challenge 15:29 :) 15:29 @mtf it's great when a community can function like that 15:30 here on freenode that would be impossible 15:30 <@mtf> yea I really like the system for the most part 15:30 <@mtf> I can imagine haha 15:30 <@mtf> we've only had the pings used against us once.... somebody brigaded our server with like 10 bots and had each one ping every role constantly for about a minute 15:30 @\unaffiliated PENIS ENLARGEMENT 15:30 <@mtf> before we banned every account 15:30 AAARGH 15:31 i just bit the side of my tongue 15:31 motherfucker 15:31 <@can't think of a holiday name> lemme tell ya, the ping noise feels so much louder 15:31 @mtf oof that sounds annoying 15:31 OW 15:31 <@mtf> good 15:31 <@can't think of a holiday name> when it's a nethack ping 15:31 <@mtf> you deserve it for the pings 15:31 -!- K2 is now known as nethack 15:31 <@mtf> ๐Ÿ˜› 15:31 hi 15:31 Hello nethack, Welcome to #hardfought 15:31 <@mtf> stenno: it sounded like a firedrill lol... but it was over pretty quick 15:31 oh no.. 15:31 -!- nethack is now known as K2 15:31 <@mtf> doesn't work, nice try though 15:32 <@machinespray> Maybe if the bot matches a ping, it removes the "@" unless there are two in a row, in which case, that's taken as a "This is likely not an accident and also some sort of confirmation". Even if someone pings by mistake, it should happen less often? Idk just spitballing. 15:32 @mtf here on freenode we had a spambot attack ongoing for like a month 15:32 <@can't think of a holiday name> I'll post that in #admin-mod-only, that's also a good idea 15:32 <@mtf> that sounds like no fun 15:32 it was a nuisance 15:33 <@Luxcalibur> we got some of that on our end too 15:33 so the nethack discord, is like an instance of discord? 15:33 K2: ugh, what now? with this bug slex is unplayable on hdf-us :/ could that be something with whereis file permissions maybe? I mean I have no idea, just guessing here, but the crash only happens when trying to move for some reason, starting a character works fine 15:33 can it be compared with an IRC network? 15:33 a network for a specific topic? 15:34 <@Luxcalibur> amy: it happens when you try to do anything 15:34 LarienTelrunya one sec 15:34 eh will just read up on it 15:34 <@Luxcalibur> did you even try to play 2.4.2 15:34 file permissions are correct 15:34 @Luxcalibur: well I can open my inventory or other stuff, just things that take time don't work 15:35 like what? 15:35 <@Luxcalibur> unless it works on esm but not on hardfought 15:35 it works on esm and hdf-eu 15:35 <@Luxcalibur> wat 15:35 like what LarienTelrunya 15:35 K2: moving, searching, waiting, praying... all those actions crash the game 15:35 moving? 15:35 rofl 15:35 -!- Antichthon` has joined #hardfought 15:35 yeah I have no idea why 15:35 hn 15:36 something with ttyrec? 15:36 <@Luxcalibur> SLASH'EM Extended fastest segfault WR (00:00) 15:36 whenever i update a variant i log in and test it out briefly. i didnt have any issues moving or saving 15:36 !who 15:36 K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] samiam [nh362] hypnotist [nh362] IceBox [nh362] archery [nh362] Bartlem [nh362] eraserhead97 [nh362] Xaleth [nh362] Tmasher [nh362] Delraven [spl] IndianaJones [nh343] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] mightyquinn [sp] Graznop [nh362] voffer [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:36 if I try to move into a wall on hdf-us, it doesn't segfault 15:37 i see you playing LarienTelrunya 15:37 that is, we don't know if it's even a segfault, but it feels like one; moving into a wall gives "There is a wall in the way!" but if I move to an open space it kicks me back to dgamelaunch 15:37 slex 2.4.2 process isnt taking up any resources other than normal 15:37 crashes too for me on us 15:38 yeah me as well 15:38 well its not on my end 15:38 otherwise everyone would be crashing 15:38 run 2.4.2 through gdb 15:39 also interesting - when starting the game, the welcome text broke line after like 10 chars 15:39 so i had like 50 very short lines of welcome text 15:39 <@Luxcalibur> amy: when I give a shorter name like "dick" it loads much faster 15:39 stenno: doesn't happen to me 15:39 -!- Antichthon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:39 oh man, why do there always have to be bugs :( 15:40 LarienTelrunya i am processing the one crash i do see for 2.4.2 15:40 one sec 15:40 I know what everyone is thinking, "omg amy do you even test your game???" but it's running fine on esm, and also on hdf-eu, I have a test game on hdf-eu right now, 68 turns in and it's stable 15:40 K2: alright 15:40 hopefully it has a useful core dump 15:41 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:41 http://termbin.com/3jil 15:41 <@Luxcalibur> I am now permlocked 15:42 ah wtf 15:42 that perm_lock file popped up at 10:44am my time 15:42 its gone 15:42 that could have been the issue 15:42 <@Luxcalibur> nope 15:42 hah nope 15:42 <@Luxcalibur> doesn't seem like it... 15:42 ...that segfault makes no sense, why would it crash at the god names? that code wasn't changed between 2.38 and 2.42 15:43 there's a livelog_lock too wtf 15:43 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 15:43 <@Luxcalibur> amy, can this cook role do anything special? 15:43 @Luxcalibur: they have permanent food appraisal 15:43 <@Luxcalibur> oh, I guess that might be helpful since there's no way to know what anything is in slex 15:45 LarienTelrunya: blob:https://imgur.com/eab2524c-f8a8-4e61-acd7-142b99b5bf6e 15:45 damn 15:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1618 points, T:1670, killed by an incubus 15:45 LarienTelrunya: https://imgur.com/z5gsld9 15:45 stenno: apparently you're using a really huge terminal? 15:45 yeah 15:45 just for testing 15:46 i normally use 80x24 15:46 the texts afterwards are displayed fine btw 15:46 <@Luxcalibur> weird, intro text looks normal to me 15:46 probably because your x dimension is 270, i.e. bigger than 255? 15:46 LarienTelrunya: that might well be, yeah 15:47 only major difference between hdf-us and the other hdf sevrers is that new hdf-us is using latest version ubuntu server (18.04) 15:47 it compiled fine though 15:47 LarienTelrunya: 270 exactly 15:48 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 100 points, T:375, killed by a brown mold 15:48 ah i have new crash from luxidream 15:49 now I'm curious whether it has a different segfault 15:49 LarienTelrunya: "68 turns in and it hasn't crashed yet" is not necessarily stable :P 15:49 aosdict: well on hdf-us you can't even get to 2 turns in before it's gone! 15:50 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 15:50 LarienTelrunya 15:50 http://termbin.com/0b8e 15:50 your original one is in there 15:50 Luxidream is at bottom 15:50 i also like how K2 is like: these two servers are the same, apart from a different OS 15:50 something funky is going on in allmain.c 15:50 mk_dgl_extrainfo() apparently? 15:50 K2, I was disconnected from hardfought again. Do you have any idea what I might be doing wrong on my end? 15:51 no. could be your isp or a router between you and hdf-us 15:51 or your keepalive settings 15:51 what are you using to connect 15:51 putty. Amy told me about the keepalive settings, which I fixed. 15:52 Perhaps it really is an ISP issue. 15:52 fwiw, I've been on hdf-us for the last 90m or so and it's been solid 15:52 can't remember when i actually had a disconnect from hardfought ever 15:52 like a server-side 15:52 i have putty session open to hdf-us that stay open for hours on end, no issues 15:52 lets see 15:53 <@Luxcalibur> amy how do I summon my stand 15:53 MUDAMUDAMUDA 15:53 stenno: which is why I'm convinced it must be something on my side. 15:53 Antichthon` in putty, in the 'connection' section 15:53 ORAORAORA 15:53 what's checked and what isnt 15:53 <@Luxcalibur> I have a pet bard 15:53 fwrite(tmpdng,strlen(tmpdng),1,extrai); 15:53 that's where Luxidream's crash happened 15:53 apparently when it tried to write the extrainfo for dgamelaunch 15:54 There are two low-level TCP connection options, Disable Nagle's algorithm, and enable TCP keepalives, both checked. 15:55 i only ever have the first one checked 15:55 nagle's 15:56 LarienTelrunya - looking at the extrainfo code for nh343 in end.c, there's nothing there using fwrite 15:56 that's the setting I've been playing with until today, and I often had crashes. 15:56 <@Luxcalibur> it seems like michael jackson is my stand 15:57 do you have any seconds between keepalives? 15:58 no 15:58 K2: I probably got the extrainfo code from some variant then? anyway we had the fwrite part in 2.38 already and it worked there 15:58 its 0 15:59 if it's an ISP issue I don't know what to do about it. Getting you to reset my game every hour or so will get real old real quick, for both of us. 15:59 yup 15:59 what version of putty are you using 16:00 and what OS 16:00 LarienTelrunya - maybe try editing your extrainfo section so its something more inline with what every other variant uses 16:00 Release 0.70, 64 bit windows 10 16:00 ok good 16:01 K2: actually I tried that for this version, but it seems the indentation is still not working correctly, I need to edit it further :/ 16:02 K2: I'll try keeping the keepalive function on, and putting in ten seconds instead of zero 16:02 ok 16:02 not sure what else to try 16:02 maybe something other than putty? 16:02 If this doesn't work, that'll be my next step. 16:02 if you see same behavior regardless of terminal you use, maybe it is an isp issue 16:02 I'll have to go afk for a while now, but sheesh, that crash bug... really, what the hell is causing that 16:03 LarienTelrunya you have two coredumps 16:03 hopefully you can figure it out 16:03 it all ends with allmain.c 16:03 which went nuts during compile 16:03 <@Luxcalibur> you're telling me that stand users can't use martial arts? 16:03 K2: could you close out my game? 16:03 yup one sec 16:04 ok done 16:04 thanks! 16:06 ok so 16:06 any php guru's in the house? 16:06 oh Antichthon` one thing you can do to test real easy - windows 10 command prompt is greatly improved now, you can ssh with it 16:06 <@Luxcalibur> K2: whaaaaaa 16:07 <[Demo]5> lol 16:07 so you could use that to test and see if you still have keep alive issues with it 16:07 <@Luxcalibur> holy shit 16:07 its another terminal to test thats already available 16:07 @Luxcalibur wut 16:08 <@Luxcalibur> I had no idea 16:08 yup 16:08 try it sometime 16:08 nethack is playable thru it now 16:08 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 16:08 <[Demo]5> why is anything using php 16:09 [Demo]5 because reasons 16:09 i need a php person 16:09 what was teh slex channel? 16:09 #em.slashem.me 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:61908 16:09 thanks 16:09 si 16:10 K2: (intermittently here) suspicion: maybe the old problem reappeared where something has caused config.h to reset itself and as a result it's trying to write dumplogs, whereis files etc. to invalid folders? because my crash was when it tried to make an endgame dumplog and luxidream's was when it tried to make an extrainfo file 16:11 folders are valid but i'll dbl-check 16:11 <@Luxcalibur> amy: I just ate a human as a zruty, why did I commit cannibalism? 16:12 K2: folder permissions are annoying in php 16:12 4 dwarven + 2 elven mithril by mine's end = rng broken 8^P 16:12 hehe 16:13 !whereis k2 16:13 K2: k2 is not playing. 16:13 !whereis k2 16:13 K2: k2 is not playing. 16:13 oh right 16:13 i havent updated beholder to see slex 2.4.2 yet 16:13 ok so i start a slex 2.4.2 game 16:14 i look in whereis folder, there i am (k2.whereis) 16:14 so thats correct 16:14 K2: not exactly a php guru but someone who programmed it a bit 16:14 ok maybe you can help me 16:14 few weeks ago when we updated dgl with new password hash method 16:15 it broke the web based rc config file editor 16:15 it doesnt know how to read user accounts now 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed orb of fate", on T:29663 16:15 different salt, etc 16:15 did you update php before that? 16:15 no 16:16 it worked fine before we upgraded dgl 16:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 285 points, T:1239, killed by something while blind 16:16 php 7.0 (and same with php 7.2) 16:16 and dgl encryption is with bcrypt? 16:16 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:42450 16:16 one sec 16:16 gonna show you two things 16:16 annoying enough, php's default crypt function algorithm might change each version 16:17 1) this is how dgl was changed - https://github.com/NHTangles/dgamelaunch/commit/636fb599fc04bf7cf210fb757111bf2c81621ee7 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:29666 16:18 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:42454 16:18 ok 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1237 points, T:1866, killed by a Mordor orc 16:19 and this is login.php - http://termbin.com/l23z 16:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 16:19 same code NAO uses 16:19 their dgl isnt updated like ours is though 16:20 K2: whats that function dgl_auth_user_username ? 16:20 it's not defined in that file 16:21 sorry 16:21 3) the include php file - http://termbin.com/x1tet 16:21 bout half way down is the dgl_auth_user function 16:22 yeah my guess would be that the crypt algos are different 16:22 right 16:22 php may or may not use bcrypt 16:22 i dont know how to change it to the correct one for php 16:23 i can load bcrypt on my end if need be thats easy 16:23 well what algorithm does C's crypt use? :) 16:24 apparently not bcrypt because you have to create your own salt 16:24 hmm 16:24 sha256 16:24 perhaps 16:24 hell i dunno 16:24 i'm just winging it 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fireproof +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1975 16:25 oh man this is so shitty 16:25 K2: i am so sorry. 16:26 wut 16:26 K2: can you check which of the following constants are set: CRYPT_STD_DES, CRYPT_EXT_DES, CRYPT_MD5, CRYPT_BLOWFISH, CRYPT_SHA256, CRYPT_SHA512 16:27 'hash' is loaded with a ton of different hashing engines enabled 16:27 none of those are listed exactly 16:28 oh hm 16:28 maybe it's just easy 16:28 ok 16:28 $passwd_crypt = crypt($passwd, substr($passwd, 0, 2)); 16:29 yeah 16:29 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 16:29 mcrypt maube is needed 16:29 maybe 16:29 but isn't the hash something else 16:29 er the salt 16:30 i mean in the old version, the salt was just the password 16:31 hmm lemme check something 16:33 i think you need to fetch the user first, then take the salt from the pw string, and throw the pw, salt into crypt? 16:33 is that how you do it? :x 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:29836 16:34 yeah it needs to know the salt being uses i'd imagine 16:34 *used 16:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22021 16:38 hmm 16:38 K2: ok 16:39 K2: i think it's fine if you pass the crypted password as second parameter, php will figure out which kind of algo was used 16:40 K2: so: so 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3151 16:42 K2: $passwd_crypt = crypt($passwd, $dat['password'])) // move this line below the $db = null; line 16:42 actually sec 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:30348 16:45 okay I'm back; as I expected, #shout crashes slex on hdf-us too 16:45 K2: https://pastebin.com/a9Q2gqKs (sorry for pastebin, but hastebin was down) 16:45 this should work? 16:46 apparently everything that writes something to a file, i.e. dumplog, extrainfo, livelog... crashes 16:46 also WAIT WHAT 16:46 oh ok 16:48 LarienTelrunya all the paths and permissions are correct 16:48 I'm really at a loss, because all those things have worked in 2.38 and I haven't changed them, apart from the extrainfo indentation, which still doesn't work correctly but doesn't crash on hdf-eu 16:48 stenno ok lemme try that 16:49 @Luxcalibur: thanks for reporting that, I'll fix the zruty race 16:49 <@Luxcalibur> LarienTelrunya: also as a stand user how do I summon my stand? 16:49 <@Luxcalibur> I tried using #technique but it doesn't work 16:49 uhh there actually is no stand in slex 16:50 so the stand user is just a delusional person? 16:50 MUDA MUDA MUDA 16:50 <@Luxcalibur> what 16:50 ORA ORA ORA 16:50 <@Luxcalibur> they can't train martial arts either 16:50 <@Luxcalibur> this doesn't make any sense 16:51 ZA WARUDO 16:51 i stop now 16:51 It does if you just consider them to be a superfan that went crazy, but uh. Otherwise yeah, what the heck is the point of the stand user? 16:51 I remember trying to play one back in the day and also being quite confused. 16:52 <@Luxcalibur> they have no inventory except a tooled horn 16:52 <@Luxcalibur> I don't think that's a reference to anything 16:52 <@Luxcalibur> stenno: one second has passed 16:52 hehe 16:52 you are typing so fast :o 16:53 <@Luxcalibur> what? 16:53 because i just did za warudo 16:53 <@Luxcalibur> I have average WPM 16:53 <@Luxcalibur> I shouldn't be typing at all then 16:53 <@Luxcalibur> ๐Ÿ˜› 16:53 stenno: with your change, instead of it just going back to login screen i get 'Auth error: Wrong username or password.' 16:53 wasn't that your 'one second has passed' things 16:53 K2: well- 16:54 that's better? >.< 16:54 heh 16:54 LarienTelrunya slex 2.4.2 still writes the whereis file 16:55 K2: wow, it does? are there contents in it too? 16:55 yes 16:55 <@Luxcalibur> amy: you are aware that the livelog is not working for eu? 16:56 oh wait, whereis is for the !whereis command and extrainfo is for what you see in the watch menu, right? 16:56 @Luxcalibur it is i havent updated beholder yet for 2.4.2 16:56 K2: can you PM me the password hash of my account? then i can try something out 16:57 K2: I was disconnected again, trying a different program now. Can you reset my game? 16:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:22852 17:01 Antichthon` done 17:02 atenno will have to wait til i get home, leaving to go get mini-me now 17:02 ok 17:02 ok so dgl uses sha-512 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:22900 17:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:23070 17:08 if your username is a single "0", you cannot log in lol 17:12 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:13 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6031 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:6202 17:20 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7643 17:20 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:23167 17:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:22 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:23 -!- dtype_ has joined #hardfought 17:25 <[Demo]5> wow im using ssl tunneled over ssh 17:27 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3948 points, T:3767, killed by a black pudding 17:29 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:29 -!- dtype_ is now known as dtype 17:32 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9430 17:43 -!- spontiff has quit [] 17:45 [hdf-us] [un] jailbird (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1899 points, T:2223, quit 17:48 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1938 points, T:3325, killed by a sewer rat 17:59 K2: you back yet? 18:03 yeah 18:03 just sat down 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:10807 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:28584 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28586 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:34145 18:19 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:22 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:31 -!- Antichthon` has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:32 I keep reading Antichthon as AntiGulp 18:34 !tell AntiGulp I think according to C string concatenation weirdness, f85ac introduced a weapon name called "Astral CallerDanger" 18:34 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 18:38 !tell AntiGulp any reason you used canspotmon && !Blind instead of just canseemon? 18:38 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 18:42 -!- Antichthon has joined #hardfought 18:45 <@Theyflower> What does the mail demon do if your knapsack is full with 56 item 18:46 It probably goes through hold_another_object, so "Oops! It drops to the floor!" 18:47 <[Demo]5> yeah 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:36096 18:47 <[Demo]5> bad idea: an irc bot that sends mail to people ingame from irc !tell 18:48 heh, Tangles could probably code that up in Beholder if he wanted... 18:48 Totally could :) 18:49 <[Demo]5> but the odds that someone u are !tell ing r 1. using the same nick as their dgl username and 2. ingame is low 18:49 <[Demo]5> so its pointless moslty 18:49 or using the same nick as someone else's dgl username! 18:49 <[Demo]5> true 18:49 <[Demo]5> spam mail 18:50 it could be a different command maybe 18:50 !mail Demo dnh Hey this is a message 18:50 Would probably implement as a separate command to !tell, and an in-game option to allow/deny it. 18:50 an in-game option in every variant? 18:50 just let them turn off mail 18:51 Yeah, or a separate dgl option. Not sure. 18:51 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 18:54 aosdict: It shouldn't matter what game their in might you might need to specify what server they're on 18:54 !mail Demo us Hey this is a message 18:55 <[Demo]5> !mail Demo go away lol 18:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:55 I mean yes, a !mail command is one thing (and pretty much everything is in place for that). !whereis already figures out which server/variant you're on. 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:29197 18:55 What does whereis do if you're playing on multiple servers at once 18:56 <[Demo]5> !who | awk {some shit thattl filter out usernames and idk} | !whereis 18:56 [Demo]5: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] oh6 [nh362] dgoddard [nh362] bouquet [nh362] IceBox [nh362] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] voffer [nh362] PavelB [xnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 18:56 <[Demo]5> lol 18:56 I was just contemplating some kind of in-game notiofication service for if you get pinged in the channel. 18:56 !whereis PavelB 18:56 PavelB: [hdf-eu] PavelB [xnh]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 18:56 !whereis PavelB 18:56 PavelB: [hdf-us] PavelB [xnh]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:15672 The Dungeons of Doom level: 24 | [hdf-eu] PavelB [xnh]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:29533 18:58 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 18:58 Tangles: You know what would be nice? The ability to link an irc nick (or discord tag) with your hdf account 18:58 For !mintc and stuff 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:16804 19:01 K2: something wrong has happened with my ssh connection to hdf. 19:03 Xaleth what do you mean 19:03 what happened 19:03 Trying to paste without spamming IRC... 19:04 PavelB: Hmm.. yeah I did something like that for clans in the tournament, so people could type stuff like ootc instead of the real name. Not too hard in theory, but for actually changing stuff like mintc, it probably needs to be more secure than just allowing anyone to say hey, my player handle is _blah_ 19:04 private msg me if you need to 19:06 PavelB: Probably embedding an irc nick in a comment in one of your nethackrc files would be enough (similar to how Junethack ties accounts together) 19:07 <[Demo]5> good idea 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:36519 19:08 the nh wiki says that I can donate gold to a priest for more AC. 19:08 But how much gold? 19:08 your level * 400 19:08 400* your level 19:08 ninja'd 19:08 jinx! 19:08 hahah 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 t-shirt", on T:36528 19:09 how much AC will lvl 11 get me? 19:11 Xaleth: Level 11 what? 19:11 If you mean "protection", 11 points. 19:11 But it is very hard to get 11 points by donating. 19:11 it's always 1 point per dponation, except for your first donation 19:12 first donation is 2-4 points of AC 19:12 And except when it's 0 19:12 the 1 point per donation is guaranteed up to (IIRC) 9 or 10 points, then it's unlikely you'll get one 19:12 overall you can reliably get 9 points of AC 19:12 ^ 19:12 you can get more but its not guaranteed 19:12 one game i got 14 19:12 luck of the grasshopper right there 19:13 it doesn't actually depend on level, so if you can drain your level and have a reliable source of gain level/wraith corpses to level back up, you can drain yourself to level 1 (make sure not to die) and get super cheap protection 19:13 <[Demo]5> one game i got -69 naked AC but that was dnh AND i cheated 19:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 7617 points, T:3946, killed by a human mummy 19:13 (the not dying is important, here) 19:14 morning Tangles o/ 19:14 actually that makes it sound like an "oLS will screw up the strat, it won't, I just mean it's a really risky strat 19:14 no risk no gain 19:15 YANI: If you've died and gotten lifesaved before in the game, some things (some people?) interact with you differently. 19:15 Hi K2! How's things? I saw in the backscroll that SLEX is keeping life interesting :) 19:16 its nuts 19:16 so here's the condensed version: 19:17 slex 2.4.2 compiled on hdf-us and eu just fine, but took longer than usual 19:17 src/allmain.c especially 19:17 cant compile slex on au server, it runs out of memory 19:17 at src/allmain.c 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a lizard, on T:18083 19:17 <[Demo]5> rip slex 19:18 <[Demo]5> out of memory? 19:18 <[Demo]5> sounds like amy had shitty fucking macros again 19:18 and now on hdf-us only, you can load a game, but the second you try to move or search, game crashes 19:18 <[Demo]5> she did that before and had the same issue 19:18 i proved two different coredumps 19:18 provided 19:18 Yeah something is not right there. I mean it is only 1GB, but that should be enough to compile something like that. Though if there are bugs in gcc, slex will be the thing that finds them. 19:19 i had htop open on au server while compiling 19:19 watched memory get eaten up 19:19 boom done 19:19 so why 2.4.2 will play on eu server but not us, i am at a loss 19:20 could be differences in flex and bison, gcc etc between the servers 19:20 or maybe the libs 19:20 So if I donate 4400 gold for the first time, will I get 11 AC points? 19:20 or both 19:20 Xaleth no 19:20 its 400 * your level every time 19:20 I remember having a similar issue and spending an hour looking through strace logs 19:21 Oh, just 3-4 AC points? 19:21 so first donation you'll get 2-4 points 19:21 so the US server crashes might be related to the new version of ubuntu (a new shared library version, or maybe even something missing from the chroot, or some package that hasn't been installed, or some other weird custom thing we had to do to make it work on the other servers that we've forgotten about) 19:21 every donation after that just 1 point 19:21 So 4400 gold will get me 2-4 points... 19:21 That's a bit expensive... 19:21 yes by design Xaleth 19:22 thats why the strategy is to do it as low a level as possible 19:22 or raid ft ludios 19:23 Tangles perhaps... i have no idea what we did (if we even had to?) to get slex to run initially when we first started hosting it 19:23 I'll open the coredumps in gdb and have a poke around. 19:23 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 19:24 and theres SO MANY warnings during slex compile its hard to see whats serious and what isnt 19:24 ok thanks 19:24 Yeah should probably have a closer look at those too. 19:24 there's probably hundreds 19:25 from a clean compile 19:25 yeah 19:25 I remember 19:27 !ping 19:27 eraserhead: Pong! 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided disenchanter, on T:18627 19:28 maybe tell amy she has to fix all her warnings before you will update slex again 19:28 ^ thats the best idea ever 19:28 ALL the warnings. Say "I'm adding -Werror to the build process." 19:29 i've told her before she needs to fix bugs before adding new content 19:29 did that happen? 19:29 <[Demo]5> maybe she doesnt have warnings with her compiler? 19:29 <[Demo]5> some compilers r pickier than others about certain things 19:29 choices are A) no B) no C) no and D) no 19:29 <[Demo]5> look at dnh for example 19:29 <[Demo]5> chill out 19:30 [Demo]5: gcc or bust 19:30 <[Demo]5> lol 19:30 what about dnh? 19:30 I mean she could be using msvc, but why? 19:30 <[Demo]5> dnh has a shitload of compielr warnings 19:30 i forget. its been forever since i've compiled dnh 19:30 and why does microsoft like sticking "visual" on everything? 19:30 <[Demo]5> true thats true 19:30 <[Demo]5> both of them 19:30 aosdict: Because until like, a year ago it was all part of Visual Studio 19:31 VS 2017 was the first time you could install MSVC *not* bundled with Visual Studio 19:31 I feel like the Visual stuff was around before Visual Studio, and in fact Visual Studio was named because a lot of things had Visual on them. 19:31 And it's called Visual Studio because it was originally for Visual Basic only, which had a *visual* system to represent code not unlike Scratch. 19:32 <[Demo]5> visualwindows 19:32 It all derives from VB 19:32 all - on a happy note, stenno was able to fix the web based rc editor. i have more edits to make but web rc config editing will be possible again tonight 19:33 right now it works for nh343 19:33 10 more variants to go 19:33 <[Demo]5> stenno is a good web guy that does good modern web stuff, its good hes also antique enough to have php experience 19:33 "A wave of psychic energy pours over you!" 19:33 What the heck? 19:33 <[Demo]5> im psychic 19:33 Xaleth: mind flayer 19:33 awesome! Thanks stenno :D 19:33 he is sleeping now hah 19:34 i kept him up 19:34 nethack doesn't really have psionics, so psychic is the closest thing 19:34 i felt bad 19:34 i offered to buy him a new car 19:34 <[Demo]5> in germany it is about 1 or 2 idk math maybe 3 19:34 <[Demo]5> hotwheels 19:34 lol I am looking at the extrainfo code where slex is crashing... 19:35 its... different 19:35 <[Demo]5> somehow ndnh doesnt crash on esm due to extrainfo issues so one day when its actually ready for non beta play maybe it wont crash on any other server i try to trick the operator of into hosting it :P 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:19173 19:37 basicallty there's an enormous chain of if/else if/... for each dungeon branch. with macros like In_sewerplant(), In_hellbathroom(), In_swimmingpool(). 19:37 [Demo]5 hahah 19:37 all these interesting and fun sounding places... almost makes me want to play *bundlebundlebundle* :) 19:37 There's *got* to be a way to refactor that cleanly. 19:37 lol Tangles 19:37 Not like it ever will be though. 19:38 there seems to be an issue with the file pointer that it's trying to write to. I'm trying to "list -" my way back to the fopen() 19:38 ...not there yet. 19:44 This game is sooo easy now that I have intrinsic teleportation control and teleportitis. 19:44 almost done editing... 19:46 Xaleth: do you also have Ctrl-T teleport at will? 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class N, on T:19700 19:50 aosdict: Doesn't having teleportitis and tp control grant grant tp at will? 19:50 Yes, I can teleport at will. 19:51 But it consumes 19 mana in my case. 19:51 PavelB: Only above a certain XL. 19:51 I'm lvl 12 19:51 yeah, 12 should be the minimum for that for non wizards 19:52 just checking... my XL1 explore moder is not able to teleport at will even though they have rings of teleport and control 19:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:53 <[Demo]5> need a higher xl 19:54 alrighty 19:55 [Demo]5: yes... that's what I just said 19:55 web based RC config editor is back open for business 19:55 \o/ 19:55 I can paste again! 19:55 gods be praised! 19:55 or I could just paste into nano. 19:56 <[Demo]5> i had a really bad experience today 19:56 <[Demo]5> found a machine i had a user on with root left logged in on tty line and set myself up setuid shell hidden in my home directory and i did a chmod a-x to remove the everyone execute on my binary and it also removed the group execute so i cant execute anymore 19:56 <[Demo]5> so im sad 19:58 lol 'a' means 'all'. You wanted 'o-x' probably. 20:00 [Demo]5 just boot to that machine from a linux usb stick, mount that computers hard drive, and fix what you need to fix 20:00 easy 20:01 <[Demo]5> it's not mine 20:01 <[Demo]5> it's remote 20:01 <[Demo]5> it's a vm 20:01 <[Demo]5> on a proxmox machine I have root on 20:01 <[Demo]5> but I'd have to shut it down 20:01 ahahahah 20:02 this is one thing i'll miss not running hdf-us from home 20:02 no more physical access 20:02 <[Demo]5> and then I'd cause downtime 20:02 <[Demo]5> and that would be bad 20:02 <[Demo]5> it's probably OK for me to have root as long as I don't cause issues 20:09 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2706 points, T:2950, killed by a giant ant 20:12 Hmm... ...a cockatrice touched me status says "Stone" - that means I have at least 3 turns to live? 20:13 "You are slowing down" = 2, but that message didn't show up yet 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:22235 20:13 wait - or is it an amulet of unchanging that's saving me? gotta look it up... 20:14 <[Demo]5> unchanging suxxors 20:14 yeah - doesn't prevent stoning according to wiki 20:16 arguably it should 20:17 it is helping me (against lycanthropy - I'm currently infected - saving the #pray until water blessing)... ...but not against c 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:22298 20:20 At 20K turns people would've already been in Gehennom. 20:21 Xaleth: Depends. At 20K turns I typically have just about finished Sokoban. 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13918 20:22 jonadab: that sounds awfully slow 20:22 In my current game I was stuck in Sokoban until turn 15000ish, counting the Mines, and it was TERRIBLE 20:23 Hang on, I could be exaggerating slightly. 20:23 Let me check the turncount in my current game, for reference. 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:23003 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23004 20:24 Ok, I was exaggerating. Currently I have completed Sokoban and am at Minetown, and it's only turn 12475. 20:24 Notably, a lot of those 15000 turns were spent doing 200 rests to recover health for my poor frail archeologist body 20:24 But there's no way I'll be in Gehennom before 20k. 20:24 And this is Barbarian. 20:24 So the early game went fast. 20:25 -!- eraserhead has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 30026 points, T:13973, killed by an owlbear 20:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:35 -!- shadowcat22 has joined #hardfought 20:38 !who 20:38 shadowcat22: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] bouquet [nh362] samiam [nh362] Xaleth [nh362] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] aoei [nh362] jailbird [un] | [hdf-au] No current players 20:42 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 392 points, T:825, killed by a giant rat 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 522 points, T:1807, killed by a giant bat 20:49 I think AWS just totally went down 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:20777 20:50 because my game froze. Couldn't be my connection. My connection is infallible. 20:51 well irc is still working, apparently, so that's a point in your favor 20:52 It's possible to have connections to some parts of the internet and not others, if your ISP (or their ISP, recursively) is in the midst of a dispute over peerage. 20:53 This is not especially common, however. 20:56 century link assures me their internet is blessed by Tyr AND Thoth so it couldn't possibly be their shitty ^H^H^H^H^H^H service 20:57 my sarcastic rant is over. 20:57 40k turns and no scroll of enchant weapon yet. 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 477 points, T:1390, killed by a grid bug, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:58 -!- shadowcat22 has quit [] 21:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:4, killed by a boiling potion 21:03 hardfought scoreboard now tracks slash'em 21:04 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:05 <@Luxcalibur> hardfought needs conduct and speedrun scoreboards like nao ๐Ÿ˜ƒ 21:05 Has anything happened with slash'em-hdf 21:05 not lately 21:07 Where *is* slash'em-hdf, I can't find it under gh.com/NHTangles 21:07 <[Demo]5> i played it lately 21:08 its not under Tangles repo 21:08 k21971/slashem 21:08 You guys should make an org 21:08 So it's all in one place 21:11 Yes that is definitely on the list of things "us guys" should do. 21:12 gosh i'll get right on it 21:12 hopefully Tangles doesnt beat me again for being lazy 21:12 those bruises took a long while to heal... 21:15 That probably sounded more sarcastic than it was meant to... sorry. But yeah there's a bunch of stuff that is not perfect and is an artifact of the way things evolved, which could have been done better with more foresight at the beginning. 21:15 for the record, my sarcasm was 100% deliberate 21:15 except for the beatings. that actually happened 21:16 Rip the "i'll get right on it" part :P 21:18 <@riker> well I woke up to at least 5 pings from this server 21:18 <@riker> who thought it was a good idea to let people ping the nethack role exactly 21:18 oh hey there's actually 2 slash'em ascensions 21:18 <@riker> slex or slashem 21:18 @riker morning ;) 21:18 slash'em 21:19 <@riker> huh 21:19 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard/slashem-scores/ 21:19 I'm at medusa level and I don't have anything suitable for the water. 21:19 People like to give discord bots all the permissions 21:19 Except for an amulet of magical breathing. 21:19 i just got that up a few min ago 21:19 still trying to fix this problem, K2. Could you close out my game again? 21:19 ok 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22577 21:19 <@riker> xaleth: go back up and find something 21:20 Antichthon done 21:20 It closes it after a certain idle time, doesn't it? Like an hour? 21:20 <@riker> you do NOT want to mess with ; without an easy way to run away 21:20 Antichthon if you're idle for one hour, the game auto saves and it logs you out 21:20 <@riker> isn't it 30 min? 21:20 <@riker> hm ok apparently not 21:20 one hour ;) 21:20 <@riker> I mean my terminal cuts me off at around 5 minutes without doing anything 21:21 <@riker> so I've never had the opportunity to experience it first hand 21:21 what do you use and what OS 21:21 riker uses a mac 21:21 iirc 21:21 ah 21:21 <@riker> yea 21:21 i helped winny with this once 21:21 it was simple solution 21:21 trying to remember 21:21 <@riker> I know how to fix it vaguely 21:21 <@riker> yeah 21:21 <@riker> you have to set the timer for when it sends blank packets to refresh the ssh connection 21:22 right, I'm experimenting with different values for tha 21:22 <@riker> I don't konw the exact command I'll do it later I'm "writing an essay" right now 21:22 ServerAliveInterval 21:22 <@riker> oh you also have a mac? 21:22 <@riker> sounds right k2 21:22 <@riker> what do you use anti 21:22 No, I have windows 21:22 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1217 points, T:1333, killed by a small mimic 21:22 i have a VM of iOS 10.x 21:22 sierra 21:23 i think 21:23 been awhile since i powered it up 21:23 need to grab high sierra 21:23 but I'm working with the TCP keepalives which sounded like what you were talking about. 21:23 <@riker> lmk if you ever want to update I have a bootleg copy of high sierra I can zip 21:23 nah i updated it from lion 21:23 <@riker> lmao nice 21:23 <@riker> I mean xcode is an abomination 21:23 and if for whatever reason it goes by by i dont really care 21:24 so since the server migration, we're almost back 100% and then some actually 21:24 mac is an abomination 21:25 just a couple more things to do 21:25 <@riker> pavel: I mean I personally like the OS but yeah kinda tbh 21:25 <@riker> in a couple years when I have a job n all I'll probably go back to mint 21:25 It looks beautiful but that's where it ends 21:25 i am not a fan of macOS but i have to support it 21:26 Apple is really good at making shitty things that look beautiful 21:26 <@riker> well I mean it's better than windows 10 imo 21:27 <@riker> the only reason I ever use windows (I have this set up with bootcamp) is to play tametsi 21:27 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 281 points, T:651, killed by a bat 21:27 @riker just use wine 21:27 Or Proton, if Proton supports Mac 21:28 <@riker> pavel: doesn't work for me for whatever reason 21:28 <@riker> I can't get any games / steam to work with wine 21:28 Try proton then 21:28 <@riker> I'm not willing ot invest that much effort though, I can spare like 50 gb on my hd to run windows 21:28 iOS better than win10? LOL 21:28 hahahahahah 21:28 No proton is built into steam 21:29 You can turn it on in the settings 21:29 <@riker> oh really 21:29 <@riker> I'll try that maybe 21:29 omg i'm crying 21:29 <[Demo]5> i had to use a mac today at work cause i had to get software to build on it 21:29 <@riker> k2: I don't use iOS 21:29 Yeah it's Valve's fork of wine 21:29 <[Demo]5> it made me sad 21:29 K2: iOS is better than win10 for an iPhone I suppose 21:29 heh 21:30 iOS macOS same thing 21:30 just different hardware 21:30 -!- dograt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:30 <@riker> not really 21:30 <@riker> but ok 21:30 @riker it's called Steamplay or something inside of steam, proton is the "technical" name 21:30 no really 21:30 all the core apps are the same 21:30 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/ 21:31 smartphone == portable computer with more comms capabilities 21:31 <@riker> k2: I mean they're different for the end user and that's a reasonably large change IMO 21:31 <@riker> I mean not if you're doing something like writing apps 21:31 <@riker> but I believe even for developers that's a small subset 21:31 you can plug a smartphone into a monitor, attach a kboard and use it like a computer 21:32 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LQQIltqm/proton.png 21:32 with the right interface 21:32 <@riker> oh pavel steam play doesn't work on mac apparently 21:32 <@riker> lmao 21:32 hah 21:32 <@riker> > Unfortunately Apple is a bit hostile to gaming and Wine, as they have begun the process of deprecating 32-bit and OpenGL support, as well as not natively supporting Vulkan. 21:32 well rip 21:33 <@riker> yeah no apple's support for most stuff is an abomination 21:33 Oh right 21:33 That 21:33 for all the shit talk, they must be doing something right 21:33 So macs don't support Vulkan, OpenGL, *or* DirectX 21:33 they were valued at 1 trillion USD recently 21:33 Sooooooo 21:33 <@riker> no they support dx7 pavel 21:33 <@riker> that's 100% the same thing right 21:33 <@riker> :) 21:34 <[Demo]5> the maci used today apparently cost 2500 and didnt even have a touchscreen 21:34 honestly not sure how you're supposed to draw things on a mac 21:34 seeing as how they don't have a functioning 3d graphics library anymore 21:34 <@riker> completely unrelated: demo why are you #5 21:34 <[Demo]5> they dont even opengl? 21:34 <[Demo]5> dude 21:35 OpenGL still works, for now 21:35 <@riker> not anymore 21:35 <[Demo]5> i have no idea how the npm irc library im using works 21:35 It's deprecated 21:35 dude 21:35 where's my car 21:35 <@riker> not as of mojave 21:35 <@riker> metal instead iirc 21:35 <@riker> demo: did you try having k2 kick all of you and rejoining? 21:36 <[Demo]5> NO 21:36 <[Demo]5> no kicks plz 21:36 <@riker> uh ok 21:36 <[Demo]5> if i restarted the node process it would drop down to 2 21:36 <[Demo]5> but i dont feel like it 21:36 <@riker> aren't you using like the sketchiest version of rld anyway? just like a homebrew version that sorta works 21:37 <[Demo]5> sorto f 21:37 Levitation boots are good for Medusa level even though they give positive AC. 21:37 <@riker> I mean 21:37 <@riker> you can cancel them 21:38 <@riker> lev boots don't naturally mess your AC up they're just often gen'd cursed 21:43 I can't find any levitation boots... 21:44 I guess I can't get past Medusa for a long while. 21:44 <@Luxcalibur> dig 21:44 But what if I land in water if I dig down? 21:44 And how am i going to get back up? 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:57558 21:44 <@Luxcalibur> medusa is diggable 21:45 Yeah, I know, but consider my questions. 21:45 <@Luxcalibur> you can't land in water 21:45 <@Luxcalibur> and level teleportation 21:45 oh ok. 21:45 How do I level teleport again? 21:46 <@Luxcalibur> confused regular teleportation 21:46 <@Luxcalibur> orb of fate 21:46 <@Luxcalibur> cursed teleportation 21:47 Or; wish for or find, below Medusa, levitation (etc); gather up all the scrolls of earth and cross Medusa with boulders; gather up wands of cold and (carefully) cross Medusa on an ice bridge 21:49 <@Luxcalibur> some medusa variants aren't very conducive to crossing them with earth 21:49 <@Luxcalibur> but you can find lev boots in perseus sometimes 21:55 I hate those liches. 21:55 Destroyed basically all my high AC armor. 21:56 <[Demo]5> liches r bitches 21:57 Generally a good idea to have MR if possible before lich country 22:00 I accidentally screwed up on the drawbridge with the pasttune. 22:00 I don't know where I'm at and how many gears/tumblers turned... 22:00 castle drawbridge 22:01 * Xaleth sighs 22:01 <[Demo]5> write ur own 22:03 ? 22:03 Xaleth, start over? 22:04 Walked upstairs from the castle, and...... 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 140539 points, T:30091, petrified by Medusa 22:04 oops. 22:04 First thing I encountered when going upstairs. 22:05 I should have found levitation boots first and defeated Medusa. 22:05 fk this game 22:05 Xaleth: Or worn a blindfold when going upstairs to somewhere you knew Medusa was going to be right next to the downstairs on. 22:06 true 22:07 <@Luxcalibur> !lastgame 22:07 @Luxcalibur: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/X/Xaleth/nh361/dumplog/1544631144.nh361.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/nh361/dumplog/1544666544.nh361.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nh343/dumplog/1544620348.nh343.txt 22:07 My inventory isn't much. 22:07 <@Luxcalibur> lost body armor rip 22:08 I stashed all my scrolls, potions, and misc stuff in a chest about 10 levels above. 22:08 Nobody's gonna find them in a bones file anyways :/ 22:08 It seems odd to have neither an amulet of reflection nor a bag of holding. 22:09 I had two amulets of reflection in the chest. Didn't use them because the magical breathing was slightly more important since I was in Medusa level. 22:09 ... nor a cloak of magic resistance, given the wizard bones on D:7. 22:09 No, it wasn't. 22:09 I wanted to avoid drowning tho. 22:09 Steps to avoid drowning: 1) don't go near the water. 22:10 Impossible when in Medusa and crossing across to stairs. 22:10 <@Luxcalibur> don't go near the eels 22:10 <@Luxcalibur> they are slow 22:10 You weren't crossing Medusa, but if you are, 2) don't go near the eels. 22:10 <@Luxcalibur> so this is usually easy 22:10 interesting. 22:11 My instadeath was simply bad strategy, I'll take note of that. 22:11 -!- Tengles has joined #hardfought 22:11 Tengu-les 22:11 Note that reflection would have killed Medusa. 22:11 * Tengles is kiwi version of Tangles 22:12 ah 22:12 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12 Did you teleport all the way over there? 22:12 <@Luxcalibur> my kiwi version is luxidwarf 22:12 Nope. Just using the kiwi client on hdt via my phone. 22:13 Hdf 22:13 Phone typing is shit 22:13 I'm at an airport waiting for my daughter who is an hour late. 22:15 <[Demo]5> thats whyt i have my gehtto discord thing 22:15 K2: where is the repo for slex 2.4.2? I can't find anything newer than 2.3.9 on GitHub. 22:15 <[Demo]5> master? 22:16 <[Demo]5> i think slex newest is on master branch? 22:16 Ah 22:16 Slashem-extended/slashem-extended? 22:17 Hope she's ok 22:17 The commits there looked old 22:17 Andrio: she is fine. Flight is delayed is all. 22:18 mm 22:20 Oh wait last commit on master is 20hrs ago. This must be it. thanks 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:42438 22:21 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:21 Xaleth: Also, here is the dump for the Wizard bones you found on D:7 - https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/nh361/dumplog/1544635258.nh361.txt - note that it has the CoMR. 22:22 That was an ornamental cope, which didn't identify when I put it on, so I assumed it was just something less important than a cloak of protection, which I valued for AC. 22:23 Turned out I was wrong. 22:23 I wonder what the odds of a cloak in wizard bones being a CoMR are? 22:23 Also, you shouldn't be at Medusa with a heap of unidentified stuff; you want to get identification rolling well before then. 22:24 <@Luxcalibur> if they have magicbane, not 100% 22:24 How often do you ditch your cloak of magic resistance that early? 22:24 And of course the CoMR would have been worth AC; the AC of all your body armour. 22:24 Unless you have Magicbane 22:24 This one didn't have Magicbane, but fair point. 22:25 I didn't know it was a wizard. 22:25 <@Luxcalibur> if you have no altar it's also perfectly possible 22:25 <@Luxcalibur> to have little to no identification done 22:25 I BUC-id'ed everything I had. 22:25 <@Luxcalibur> same goes for no shops 22:25 If there's a quarterstaff and a magical cloak, it's probably a wizard. 22:26 Did price-id with a bunch of stuff that got stashed in that chest. 22:26 and books 22:26 There's a quarterstaff, a cloak but no other armour, two spellbooks - it's a wizard 22:26 * Xaleth nods 22:26 I think ^O also tells you what role they were. 22:27 uh, what? 22:27 I think ^O also tells you what role they were. 22:27 It doesn't say in nh wiki. 22:28 -!- hothraxxa has quit [*.net *.split] 22:28 -!- ShivanHunter has quit [*.net *.split] 22:28 It's possible to have no altars, but there are three altars and two temples in Xaleth's dump. Also, if not already invisible, it's easy to tell cloaks apart. 22:29 Indeed when you tried on the ornamental cope and it didn't do anything, you already knew it was a CoMR. 22:29 Xaleth: What is not said in the wiki? 22:30 ^O showing what role the bones were. 22:30 However, if one ever presses ^O in a game with bones... 22:32 You know what bugs me 22:32 ctrl-o and ctrl-shift-o are both ^O 22:32 One should be ^o and the other should be ^O 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1975 points, T:1730, killed by a giant beetle 22:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:33 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 22:35 <[Demo]5> god i love first person shooters 22:35 same 22:35 <[Demo]5> all the time i spend not being retarded playing rougelikes i can spend being extra retarded in fpses 22:35 https://www.dropbox.com/s/7hh1qonquk99ldy/Screenshot%202018-12-13%2014.35.20.png?raw=1 22:35 Fast paced shooters like Sauerbraten are so lit. 22:36 <[Demo]5> im playing siege so its slow pace unless u play it fast pace and die which is fun 22:36 mm 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7255 22:36 I gotta sleep now. 22:37 I'll try another run tomorrow. 22:37 -!- Xaleth has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 22:37 Also, what's the probability of the stairs to the Mines being on Dlvl:2? 22:37 Andrio: 1 in 3? 22:37 you 22:37 'd think. 22:38 It's happened a lot more than 1 in 3 times today. 22:38 And of course, no bones on that level 22:41 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:42 <@Luxcalibur> unlikely things happen in nethack 22:42 mm 22:42 Like dying to the Castle drawbridge getting smashed over your head by a Grey-elf with a wand. 22:43 I wonder whether anyone can verify this though. Because the Fort Ludios portal isn't uniformly distributed. 22:43 I tend to feel something unfortunate (likely also unwise) already happened if you are standing in the drawbridge death zone. 22:43 Yeah, I didn't smash it myself. 22:44 It's not the smashing, it's the standing in the death zone. 22:44 It's no longer a death zone if you've smashed the drawbridge. 22:45 That's certainly true, yes... but then the Grey-elf can't do that. 22:45 mm 22:46 Ludios is distributed by a more complex process - the Mines, a simple dieroll. 22:46 ok. 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 37843 points, T:8754, killed by a warg 22:50 Well I can't tell what's going on with slex from here, other than it's trying to write to a garbage file pointer. But I can't figure out how that's happening since the routine that opens the file should either succeed out return null. 22:51 Will look some more later 22:52 Time to Go! 22:52 -!- Tengles has left #hardfought 22:53 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:45100 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:45101 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:45494 23:06 K2: [backscroll] I'm sure when Tangles visited your house there was at minimum one friendly punch that passed between you, and now you can always talk about "the beatings that really happened" 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker named Oysters are Yum", on T:45751 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] dreadpirateA (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3406 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] IndianaJones (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 18970 points, T:9017, killed by an owlbear 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] dreadpirateA (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2826 points, T:3761, quit 23:29 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:32 -!- Antichthon` has joined #hardfought 23:36 -!- Antichthon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:36 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:31002 23:42 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] IceBox (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) genocided class R, on T:31322