00:01 <@luxidream> I don’t trust RNG 00:01 <@luxidream> !8ball is playing nethack a good idea 00:01 @luxidream: It is certain 00:01 <@luxidream> welp 00:09 inb4 rip 00:22 Ok, belt YANI: 00:24 Garish swim trunks: Tourist belt-slot item. Has the same effect as the shirt when worn around shopkeepers. Incorporates floatation devices which let you swim. Counts as pants (protects against sitting on c corpses). 00:27 Belt of Giant Strength: Traditional D&D belt. Sets strength to 25. 00:28 Belt of Elven Grace: Increases Dex (to 25? +Enchantment?) 00:28 Belt of Troll Toughness: Increases Con (to 25? +Enchantment?) 00:29 The Convict's shirt becomes a "striped jumpsuit", and counts as pants. 00:32 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:42 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 01:21 -!- Araganor has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:44 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 02:03 GruntHack updated (all servers) 02:05 NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers) 02:30 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:30 -!- nooodle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:33 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 02:33 -!- nooodle_ has joined #hardfought 02:57 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:00 Your Invisible Pink Unicorn grows up into a large dog. 03:06 aaaahh 03:06 I found +3 elven mith 03:07 but I'm a monk 03:09 I can't hit anything but I have -9 AC :< 03:11 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 03:15 -!- Sakusen has joined #hardfought 03:16 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:30 !rng try for mkot | don't be dumb 03:30 ShivanHunter: try for mkot 03:45 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 04:01 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 04:09 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:55 -!- kame has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:55 -!- kame has joined #hardfought 05:00 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:01 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 05:17 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 05:17 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 05:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] abzde (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 346 points, T:1246, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 05:42 <@fireinc> Which level should I be before hitting the gnomish mines 05:42 <@fireinc> 4? 05:44 -!- Sakusen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:44 <@fireinc> Or that doesn't matter if I have good ac? 06:06 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 06:14 -!- Sakusen has joined #hardfought 06:17 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:30 -!- Camwin_ has joined #hardfought 06:31 -!- Camwin_ has quit [Client Quit] 06:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] efw (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1307 points, T:1837, killed by a gnome lord 06:33 -!- Camwin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:35 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:36 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 06:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 06:37 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:41 -!- Sakusen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:06 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 07:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 07:23 !tell lorimer was digging around in the sporkhack commit history, and I see one about all these different vault maps. in dat/ I see there's a vaults.des file, vault.dat etc. I've never seen these in play. is there a define i'm missing or a file that's not being copied over to the play directory that i'm not catching? thanks 07:23 No worries, K2, I've got this! 07:26 LarienTelrunya I saw and replied to your github comment 07:27 oh, digging out that commit would take some time... I'll look for it though :) 07:29 it must have been before May 26, 2015 07:31 K2: sorry, apparently that change was made even before slex was put under version control :( 07:38 replied to your comment though :) 07:58 thanks 07:58 I should have version controlled slex right from the start 08:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:40 -!- Sigyn has quit [Quit: People always have such a hard time believing that robots could do bad things.] 08:41 -!- Sigyn has joined #hardfought 08:41 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:41 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 08:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 08:55 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 164 points, T:431, killed by a burning book 09:06 YANI: Amulets of change do a stat shuffle a la polyself into own race. This gives them a little more utility. 09:18 <[Demo]2> there needs to be a Q with an attack that acts as an amulet of change 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] gnuvince (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1904 points, T:4770, poisoned by a rotted hill orc corpse 09:32 -!- Araganor has joined #hardfought 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1024 points, T:2687, killed by a little dog 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4132 10:00 bhaak: nethack 3.6.x when you start a new game, even when you have role/race set in your config, it still asks you if that's the combo you want and the player can answer yes/no/quit before starting a new game. on hdf-us it acts that way. on hdf-eu and hdf-au it's bypassing that and going straight into a new game (TNNT build). hints files and config.h is identical between servers. any idea 10:00 what would cause that behavior to bypass the final option check? 10:01 362-hdf appears to behave normally on all servers 10:01 i'm at a loss as to why hdf-eu and hdf-au are doing that. TNNT build on all three are identical 10:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:03 K2: can you start a game locally on the server, without going through dgamelaunch? does it behave the same then? 10:03 lemme check 10:04 hmm doesnt want to start 10:04 chroot 10:04 bleh i know there's a way to run the binary manually in the chroot 10:04 been forever 10:06 right now no i cant bhaak 10:06 <@reapersan> !tell Chris_ANG looks like I can cancel all of the chaos quest dudes (except for chaos idk about him), tha'ts not intentional I think. 10:06 I'm on it, @reapersan. 10:08 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 6754 points, T:5679, killed by a contaminated potion 10:26 -!- Araganor has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Val Dwa Fem Law), 243 points, T:750, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse 10:40 YANI: Give Nazgul limited gating ability - for every hit they land on you, there's a small chance that another Nazgul spawns somewhere else on the level 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1076 points, T:2905, killed by a Keystone Kop 10:45 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 467 points, T:1096, killed by a bolt of cold 11:01 !seen Elronnd 11:01 -!- emerson has joined #hardfought 11:03 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] atorox (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 488 points, T:1404, killed by a wand, while helpless 11:09 ritual spell YANI: there should be one that charges stuff, but of course must require some very rare ingredient so that you can't overuse it 11:09 maybe a dilithium crystal 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3868 points, T:2871, poisoned by a rotted leprechaun corpse 11:25 LarienTelrunya, that's the majou shoujo quest artifact 11:26 bug_sniper: what? the dilithium crystal? 11:32 -!- nooodle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:32 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered Mischief, her faithful kitten, on T:1141 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] gunnervi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 442 points, T:1183, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted homunculus 11:51 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 11:59 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:00 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 7638 points, T:7004, killed by an ape 12:18 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1104 points, T:1755, killed by a kitten 12:26 -!- Pavel has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:28 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 12:28 -!- nooodle_ has joined #hardfought 12:32 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2895 points, T:2571, killed by a giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24590 12:55 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 13:11 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:14 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] gnuvince (Val Dwa Fem Law), 815 points, T:2262, killed by a bugbear, while praying 13:22 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 13:22 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 13:24 -!- Pavel has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:27 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3969 points, T:2876, killed by a Woodland-elf 13:31 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:33 -!- realinari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:26490 13:41 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:42 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:47 !rng go kill juiblex | what's the point 13:47 aosdict: what's the point 13:47 agreed, Beholder. agreed 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1912 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:1919 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed scroll of charging", on T:1920 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:1921 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:1922 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1923 13:57 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5506 14:01 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:04 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 14:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 14:05 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed unicorn horn", on T:3900 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:30749 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:30756 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:30879 15:02 -!- Chris__ANG is now known as Chris_ANG 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] gnuvince (Val Dwa Fem Law), 599 points, T:2016, killed by a dog 15:08 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had broadsword named Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:33673 15:13 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh343] quervo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 6210 points, T:3623, killed by a lynx 15:30 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 15:30 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:33 <@fireinc> how ugly is to wait at the shop door's for your dog to pick items? 15:35 It's entirely conventional (read up on taming for more efficiency) 15:37 Takes forever, usually not worth it unless the shop has like a powerful artifact that costs a billion zorkmids or something. 15:38 However, some players like doing it. 15:39 Forever> not done right 15:40 I mean, not literally forever. 15:40 Just longer than going and exploring and finding some gold. 15:41 Oh, indeed; and I mean that done right it can be done extremely quickly, far faster than exploring. 15:41 I must have been doing it wrong then. 15:41 <@fireinc> I got speed boots and a cloak of protection 15:41 I can't even get my dog out of a shop *without* expecting him to carry anything out. 15:41 That's why I obsessively lock pets OUT of shops. 15:42 Oooh, speed boots, that's quite nice to have, early game. Or whenever. 15:42 Three things; read up on tameness / apport and have some tripe; ideally have a magic whistle (maybe come back later if you don't); arrange things so the item you want (or a valuable item you can sell back or a sack full of gold (or a stack of gold in 3.4.3 and below) is the only thing the pet can grab. 15:45 <@fireinc> Thanks 15:45 <@fireinc> If I know a ring isn't cursed should I try using? 15:45 <@fireinc> to identify? 15:46 Only briefly. 15:46 Maybe for 2-3 turns. 15:46 That way you find out if it's something immediately obvious, like levitation. 15:46 Wearing an unknown ring for a long time is risky even if not cursed, because it can be e.g. polymorph. 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:37434 15:47 Also: don't do it near a shopkeeper or aligned priest. 15:47 Also don't do it next to a priest / shk etc oh never mind 15:47 In case it's conflict. 15:49 <@IceBox> i usually do, though you dont get too many that identify when wearing 15:49 <@IceBox> but yeah definitely take it off if you dont get a message 15:49 <@IceBox> and price ID really helps narrow it down 15:50 Yes, rings worth less than 200zm base price are usually not worth bothering to identify in vanilla. 15:51 (In variants that make ring identification easier, e.g., by letting you buy enlightenment from the Oracle, they can be, because you can do it real early.) 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:38003 15:52 <@fireinc> ay got a bag of holding 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8919 15:52 <@fireinc> Can't say if is uncursed or blessed 15:53 Worry about that later. As long as it's not cursed, use it for now. 15:56 <@fireinc> I imagine I can take items out from cursed? if yes the other I have is or cursed or a sack 15:56 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:57 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] OtsMcGee (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 366 points, T:907, killed by a dart 16:09 Ritual spell YANI: summon tame elementals. Water elemental's ingredients include a potion of water (any beatitude). Earth includes a rock. Fire includes lit candles or a lit oil lamp. Air... uh. 16:11 fireinc> You can take items out from any cursed container. If it's a BoH, that might not be a good idea. 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11610 16:20 aosdict: air: amulet of magical breathing? ;) 16:20 That's a rather large step up in rarity, but maybe. 16:26 <@fireinc> Pinkbeast it multiples the weight 4ever? 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a circular amulet on an altar, on T:12771 16:30 Does converting the minetown altar anger the watch? 16:31 it angers the priest 16:31 not sure about watch 16:31 I think in some game the watch got angry at me for that 16:31 But there's no mention of it on the wiki 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] queue (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:12867 16:34 !rng ascend now | go for the grand tour 16:34 aosdict: go for the grand tour 16:35 yeaaaaaah Beholder knows where it's at 16:36 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 16:40 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:50 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a blindfold on an altar, on T:4371 16:50 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4375 16:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:57 -!- Player2 has joined #hardfought 16:58 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 16:58 Hello! And (hopefully) good day! If one experienced a crash should they contact via email or can the process be done here. My crash was quite strange. Not even sure if it was a program crash . . . 17:07 Never had it happen before: game exited to main menu, with me logged out. 17:08 aosdict: air elemental's physical ingredient could be any charged item. 17:08 (Air and lightning are associated with each other in most "elemental" based systems.) 17:10 K2: ^^ player2 crash 17:11 Player2: what were you playing? Tournament? vanilla 3.6? Something else? 17:11 ok 17:11 give me a few 17:11 Player2 what game and what server please 17:14 Just wanted to ge the conversation going before details. Thanks for the reply. Not sure what server, I use PuTTY and am in the eastern US. Game is SLASH'EM 0.0.8. User name: Bard. 17:14 ah ok 17:14 give me just a couple min i'll see if i can recover it for ya 17:14 I was trying to use shopkeeper services when the game suddenly, quickly exited to the hardfought main menu, with me logged out. I logged back in to attempt to play again. I usually just let the countdown go down to zero for the stale processes message and my game is usually recovered. I did it twice, it did not work. I tried a third time and it takes me to character creation screen. 17:15 Ouch. 17:16 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:16 If you just ssh to nethack@hardfought.org, you're on the Vermont server. 17:16 so no game files to recover, but there's a save from about 20 min ago i just recovered 17:16 so Player2, go ahead and give it a go now 17:17 Whew! Thanks a LOT! One of my best ever S'EM games. -41 AC, fully loaded except Magic Resist, and have proceeded only as far as the Kobold Level! 17:17 That sounds like a pretty good start. 17:17 It is there. Much appreciated! 17:17 sweet 17:17 good luck ;) 17:17 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:18 Furthest I've ever made it in Slash'EM is the Wyrm Caves. I died there. 17:18 But I've made it past Kroo several times. 17:18 Need to learn to stay out of the optional branches in Slash'EM, at least in the early game. They're dangerous. 17:20 Wyrm Caves can be dangerous. I have several local games that ready to ascend, but then (re)discovered serever play. I've not played locally for some time. 17:21 Yeah, once I discovered the automatic ttyrecs, I never looked back. 17:21 ok time to get the kid. Bard/Player2, if you need any more help with shalsh'em game issues, lemme know 17:21 *slash'em 17:21 Thanks again! 17:22 <@fireinc> Question: can I kill people in a temple? 17:22 <@fireinc> Like a gnome? 17:22 yes 17:23 Yes, but do not attack the peaceful priest unless you Know What You Are Doing. 17:25 <@fireinc> I imagine when I drop stuff on altars I already know by the color, right? 17:25 <@fireinc> Not required renaming? 17:26 I've never ascended S'EM, but have in vanilla. I've seen the Wizard many times in S'EM, I just always do something stupid. S'EM has so many ways to kill you. Once I had a *great* character, I took the downstairs, took one step and died ---- catoblepas. 17:27 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] efw (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4533 points, T:2597, killed by a giant spider 17:42 -!- Player2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:43 <@fireinc> does wearing ring increase hunger? 17:44 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Ring_hunger 17:45 <@fireinc> THanks 17:51 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:01 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:06 Guh. The "Pick up what?" prompt should let you skip to an item class if it's more than 10 pages long 18:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 26 points, T:68, killed by a jackal 18:06 also is there a way to go back a page? I've just been using space to page forward 18:06 ShivanHunter: Fiddle with menustyle? 18:07 thanks! 18:08 back a page> IIRC yes but I forget what it is 18:09 menustyle is 'full' in my game- I think this only applies when looting from boxes, not when doing ',' 18:09 You can think that if you like but it ain't so 18:10 Ah, OK, it's a different thing - works now 18:11 Actually, no, none of the options work 18:12 the only one where I can specify "only %" or "only (" is followed by n individual prompts for each item, not a menu 18:12 that's "traditional" 18:12 and none of the others let me specify item classes when using ',' 18:14 next and back can be > and < though, so that's useful 18:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 559 points, T:1310, killed by a small mimic 18:19 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:20 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:24 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 18:26 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 18:31 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:32 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 18:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 18:43 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 18:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 18:49 -!- Araganor has joined #hardfought 18:54 -!- stenno\ootc has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:11 <@fireinc> there's a way to see my levels? 19:12 <@fireinc> dungeon levels* i explored? 19:12 <@fireinc> I need to find a fountain 😛 19:12 <@fireinc> #overview did 19:46 <@fireinc> potion of blindness and prayed on top of chaotic altar 19:47 <@fireinc> rip my val 19:51 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 20:01 <@lapis> has rumflump been around? 20:01 <@luxidream> nope he is awol 20:02 <[Demo]2> the commies probably ate him 20:03 <[Demo]2> i think he lived in a commie commune or something 20:03 <[Demo]2> except they arent technically commies 20:05 <@rikersan> oi demo 20:05 <@rikersan> since when has chris's fix for dant'ing VOTD been to block telepathy there 20:05 <@rikersan> or is that something from vanilla or something 20:06 <@fireinc> why the commies killed him? is he an ancap? 20:08 <[Demo]2> it doesnt block telepathy 20:08 <[Demo]2> all monsters on votd are mindless 20:08 <[Demo]2> so when you roll up with oona she drops all her fun shit like bows, arrows, wands and such 20:13 <@rikersan> including the priest? 20:13 <@rikersan> and the random titanothere? 20:14 <[Demo]2> yes 20:14 <@rikersan> and that gnome king? 20:14 <[Demo]2> everything is treated as mindless 20:14 <[Demo]2> if ur level is votd level 20:14 <@rikersan> that's bascially blocking telepathy 20:14 <@rikersan> what other effects does that have? 20:15 <[Demo]2> mindflayer is a shitty polyform 20:15 <[Demo]2> your pets drop all their shit 20:15 <[Demo]2> you wont get wands zapped at you 20:15 <@rikersan> oh 20:15 <@rikersan> that's actually really dumb 20:16 <@rikersan> why? 20:17 <[Demo]2> idk ask chris 20:18 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 20:19 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG why is the VOTD forcing mindless on stuff? is it an attempt at blocking telepathy and thus dantalion? or thematic? 20:19 I'm on it, @rikersan. 20:23 <[Demo]2> its clearly thematic 20:23 <[Demo]2> if he wanted to block dantallion's thing from working on that level explicitly it would be a hell of a lot easier than forcing mindless 20:30 -!- Sakusen has joined #hardfought 20:51 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:51 -!- stenno\ootc has joined #hardfought 20:52 <@rikersan> i mean 20:52 <@rikersan> that wasn't so much a question 20:52 <@rikersan> as a passive-aggressive complaint that hopefully has him reevaluate the thematicness 20:56 -!- stenno\ootc has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:57 -!- nooodle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:57 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:03 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] AlmaElma (Val Hum Fem Law), 130 points, T:476, killed by a small mimic 21:19 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:36 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:43 -!- Sakusen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:44 -!- Sakusen has joined #hardfought 22:05 -!- stenno\ootc has joined #hardfought 22:10 -!- stenno\ootc has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:17 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 22:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 22:36 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 22:40 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:47 -!- Sakusen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:01 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:01 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] CropperS (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12439 23:55 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ