00:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 308 points, T:431, killed by a cave spider 00:00 so far, I've gotten mojo, dragonbane, and demonbane 00:00 tyr is *useless* 00:01 Elronnd: Not to be Capt Obvious but not just dipping for Excalibur? 00:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10541 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:31446 00:03 lol i'm 3x slower 00:03 Pinkbeast: yeah 00:08 I need to get rid of this plate armour 00:09 it's not a race :) 00:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:32399 00:09 ^^^ 00:09 I have quite a few years under my belt 00:09 *and* I got really lucky this run 00:09 (well, except for orctown) 00:10 !goat orctown 00:10 nooodle's goat runs up and rams orctown in the kneecap! Baaaaaa! 00:11 i have MR and reflection and tele control, still no poison resist 00:11 time to start getting productive 00:11 could possibly get crowned at this point 00:13 ring of free action get! 00:14 -!- aosdict has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 00:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 00:16 if I have extrinsic poison res, can I get it intrinsically (eg, through eating a corpse?) 00:17 yes, I just did that myself. 00:17 Yes 00:17 wear a ring of poison resist and eat a kobold. 00:17 says "you feel especially healthy" or something. 00:20 oh huh. I didn't know kobolds gave poison resistance 00:21 are you sure they do? 00:21 mmmm delicious kobold. 00:21 not sure. 00:21 *goes and bashes a floating eye skull in with his fancy new amulet of reflection 00:22 first awful sounding poisonous meal that came to mind. 00:22 maybe eat some snakes. 00:22 * jonathanhanes get's frozen by a floating eye's gaze because that's not how amulets of reflection work 00:23 confirmed: kobolds don't give poison resist. 00:23 if the amulet reflected away all light aimed at your eyes, it would blind you 00:24 and that only works if you hold the amulet in front of your eyes. otherwise that's not how optics work 00:24 you can show a floating eye its reflection in a mirror and I think it stuns itself. 00:25 Well, the amulet is surprisingly adept at interposing itself between you and lightning bolts from all directions 00:25 even silver dragon scale mail somehow reflects things away from you, even when it's covered with a mummy wrapping, which should prevent all light from reaching it 00:25 Uh and reflection does work on floating eyes 00:26 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 00:27 ya, show an eye its reflection and "The floating eye is frozen by its reflection." 00:27 IIRC their passive still works on you though 00:27 I mean that amulets of reflection, SDSM, etc work 00:27 but last time I tried that it still froze me when I attacked. 00:27 so it's basically useless 00:27 yeah reflection is weird 00:28 it saves you from Medusa too even though you can obviously still see her 00:28 but not from pyrolisks 00:28 seems like a handy way out of a sticky situation for early game encounters if you have a mirror handy. 00:28 Even when I was playing all the time I never did get all the Medusa/reflection interactions straight, just came up to her blindfolded 00:29 i guess the amulet of reflection intelligently decides which light is "gaze-like" but it makes mistakes with pyrolisks, umber hulks, etc 00:31 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:36 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 00:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 00:36 speaking of which, isn't it a little annoying that all dragons breathe a breath associated with their scales except silver... wtf 00:37 hmm. Some kind of light/laser breath that lights up the level 00:38 and non-resistable so you need reflection to deal with it... 00:39 i like that, and would also be all right with silver dragons being "chromatic" like Tiamat 00:39 like, all breaths except black 00:39 nahhhh black too ;) 00:39 >:( 00:40 tbh disintegration blasts should still kill your cloak if you only have reflection from body armor 00:40 tbh tbh tbh 00:40 :P 00:40 i agree, i knew there was another nit i had to pick with reflection, and yes 00:40 and your shield first 00:43 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Arc Mal), 50 points, T:28, gnome 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1425 points, T:2283, killed by a water moccasin 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Arc Mal), 143 points, T:158, hobgoblin 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Arc Mal), 63 points, T:27, imp 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Nin Mal), 68 points, T:129, imp 00:51 -!- Chansu has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 107 points, T:298, killed by a kobold zombie 00:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13822 00:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Pri Mal), 487 points, T:831, orc 00:57 -!- wehrkjah has joined #hardfought 00:57 -!- wehrkjah has quit [Client Quit] 00:57 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 00:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Priest ### Mal ###) genocided O dungeon wide on T:198 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:36225 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+2 blessed greased fixed silver dragon scale mail", on T:36414 01:06 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Pri Mal), 1076 points, T:1690, little dog 01:07 why wish for silver dsm after becoming a silver dragon? 01:08 <@FrightBox> maybe they didn't wanna be a parent and raise a lil baby dragon 01:10 maybe it's not for them, maybe it's for a pet 01:11 <@spookidream> what if they became a silver dragon through sheer luck 01:11 <@spookidream> not because of dsm 01:14 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 01:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 01:29 !ping 01:29 aosdict: Pong! 01:31 -!- Dewzmint has joined #hardfought 01:33 !pong 01:33 aww 01:33 -!- Dewzmint_ has joined #hardfought 01:35 I have been randomly popping in and out for the last hour, right? Grr. 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:17505 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1177 points, T:1469, killed by a rothe 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2091 points, T:2678, killed by a horse 01:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 237 points, T:326, killed by a large kobold 02:04 -!- Dewzmint_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 282 points, T:712, killed by a dwarf king 02:05 -!- Dewzmint has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 97 points, T:390, killed by a grid bug 02:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 89 points, T:159, killed by a goblin 02:10 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 974 points, T:1747, killed by a water moccasin 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 718 points, T:1008, killed by a killer bee 02:17 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:17 -!- nooodle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1233 points, T:1337, killed by a jaguar 02:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2335 points, T:2210, killed by a snake 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 308 points, T:348, killed by a wererat 02:27 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 02:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 373 points, T:520, killed by an iguana 02:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2232 points, T:3179, killed by a pony 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 332 points, T:401, killed by a dwarf zombie 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2499 points, T:2851, killed by a soldier ant 02:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2592 02:58 -!- LanternTrickya has joined #hardfought 02:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LanternTrickya] by ChanServ 03:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:05 ShivanHunter: you heretic! disintegration is already destructive enough, are you trying to turn the game into the evil variant? :P 03:05 ;) 03:06 oh and I see you played slex, now that the new version is on hdf-us :) how was it? 03:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3399 points, T:4708, killed by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:09 pretty weird lol 03:09 played a rodneyan doom marine but didn't get very far 03:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 863 points, T:2740, killed by an Uruk-hai 03:10 but you used a lot of perilous life saving ;) 03:12 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:41006 03:20 !ping 03:20 ShivanHunter: Pong! 03:20 RIP? 03:20 -!- Chansu has quit [Quit: *poof*] 03:20 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 03:21 But wait... Hardfought's medallion begins to glow! 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3798 points, T:2180, killed by a tengu 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:41214 03:27 wtf, reading scrolls of mail in-game violates illiterate conduct? 03:27 yeah I thought they had changed that but idk 03:27 I know it did with no warning in 343 03:29 !tell K2 pushed a fix to a lycanthropy bug in slex that I discovered yesterday 03:29 Will do, LanternTrickya! 03:34 -!- Chansu has quit [Quit: *poof*] 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1363 03:34 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 03:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1453 03:37 lol the server is dying as much as me 03:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:41399 03:42 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:2938 03:54 -!- Chansu has quit [Quit: *poof*] 04:06 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #hardfought 04:08 White menu items are showing up in blue on my terminal. I'm using the same configuration as I have on alt.org. And corridor highlights and tame monster highlights are also in blue instead of white. 04:08 Does anyone have a guess what might be wrong? 04:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:42749 04:23 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: *poof*] 04:23 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #hardfought 04:27 Is there a way to set monsters' color in the config file? 04:28 BEHiker91W: it might be related to the support for extra colours that K2 and bhaak were experimenting with the other day. 04:29 If you set your TERM variable to something that only supports 16 colours, like 'xterm', it might help. 04:32 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: *poof*] 04:36 jonadab: the 1056 and 1057 pngs are very fleecy ♥♥♥ 04:56 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #hardfought 05:10 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: *poof*] 05:10 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #hardfought 05:11 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Client Quit] 05:18 -!- GDPR has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:19 -!- GDPR has joined #hardfought 05:26 Q: I seem to recall there being a calculation that says exactly what the odds of out-of-depth purple liches on the castle level are, but can't find it anymore... does anyone know where it could be? probably some page on nethackwiki but not sure which 05:30 nevermind, found it on google groups 05:49 Tangles: quite great those bug reports without all the info. there's no BEHiker91W config for unnethack on hdf US, so it can't be my recent changes :-) 05:49 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BEHiker91W/nh361/BEHiker91W.nh361rc 05:51 the tnnt config seems to be the default one 05:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6874 05:56 bhaak: no worries. I thought K2 did something globally (maybe with terminfo) to support your changes, that may have affected it. 05:57 I've been out of the loop for a few days, just skimming over the backscroll, but that piece seemed like it might be relevant. 05:58 he did link xterm-256color but that shouldn't be an issue. for color numbers smaller 16, that entry outputs the same escape sequences as xterm. 05:58 to my knowledge, it should be fully backward compatible 06:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:25 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+3 blessed greased fixed gauntlets of power", on T:44720 06:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44757 07:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:44759 07:18 bhaak Tangles -- BEHiker91W is probably in curses mode to get that color behavior 07:18 K2: Message from LanternTrickya at 2018-10-31 03:29 EDT: pushed a fix to a lycanthropy bug in slex that I discovered yesterday 07:18 i vageuly remember seeing same thing 07:18 (using xterm-256color) 07:19 switching back to tty mode put colors back to normal 07:19 what Tangles said should work, set TERM for xterm or linux 07:29 his config file doesn't support that 07:31 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 07:31 -!- nooodle_ has joined #hardfought 07:33 hmph, I'm really not a fan of the hints system. to much boilerplate and repeated stuff. there should at least be an INCLUDE other_hint_file 07:33 Evil Patch idea: scroll of amnesia gas cloud. And monsters can read it to attack you with it. 07:42 can't reproduce locally with ncurses 07:58 love the hints system 07:59 from a server admin point of view, its a lot easier to setup an instance with the settings you want 08:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:34 -!- LanternTrickya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:44284 08:43 bhaak: Still lots better than hand-editing makefiles. 08:46 it's not as if there aren't several possible build system candidates out there 08:48 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:44986 08:56 and if you're editing the hints file, you need to know exactly the same as when you would be editing the makefiles. 08:56 without the hardfought hints file, I would have been completely at a loss on how to compile the curses ui into nethack-hdf 08:57 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1739 points, T:1655, killed by a giant spider 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu), 705 points, T:953, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:13 see? hints for the win ;) 09:13 \o/ 09:14 -!- hf_guest_63412 has joined #hardfought 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:46404 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 504 points, T:2027, killed by a giant bat 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49270 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:49279 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:49385 09:58 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5048 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:49482 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:49483 10:05 -!- LanternTrickya has joined #hardfought 10:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LanternTrickya] by ChanServ 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided class m, on T:48274 10:12 LanternTrickya i updated slex on hdf-us 10:12 i'm not going to mess with slex update on other 2 servers until tnnt kicks off and settles in 10:12 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 6316 points, T:6206, killed by a watchman 10:12 K2: alright thanks :) I'll play on hdf-us for the time being 10:13 * LanternTrickya praises her fast internet connection 10:13 heh 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49976 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3603 10:23 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 10:23 <[Demo]1> crunch 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:50681 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:50681 10:37 WAKE UP 10:37 !coffee coffee 10:37 * Beholder pours coffee a cup of Blend 43, decanted by demogorgon at 82 degrees Celsius. 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the holy greased +3 grayswandir", on T:50219 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the cursed -3 thoroughly corroded vorpal blade", on T:50227 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the cursed -3 thoroughly corroded vorpal blade", on T:50228 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the cursed -3 thoroughly corroded vorpal blade", on T:50232 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "a +3 holy fixed greased pair of speed boots", on T:50234 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "a holy greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance named Mitre of Holyness", on T:50239 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the uncursed magic marker", on T:50296 10:48 not trying to get your head lobbed off? 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:51089 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 27 points, T:102, killed by a water moccasin 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:51129 10:56 -!- hf_guest_63412 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 10:56 -!- hf_guest_63412 has joined #hardfought 10:58 !pom 10:58 LanternTrickya: The moon is at last quarter; new moon in 7 days. 11:02 -!- swegen has joined #hardfought 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 755 points, T:1437, killed by a rothe, while unconscious from rotten food 11:09 how does that work out wishing for your marker (0:99)? 11:09 !who 11:09 never tried that before 11:09 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] hypnotist [nh362] ninetale [nh362] Kame [nh362] Karnac [nh362] Lasci [nh362] knavery [nh362] Delraven [spl] | [hdf-eu] Hill [nh362] oh6 [nh362] Trevor [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:11 jonathanhanes: it's the same as wishing for it without charges 11:11 the game picks the lesser of whatever it was going to give you, and what you asked for 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 175 points, T:464, killed by a coyote 11:12 grats ninetales 11:12 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 T-shirt", on T:28015 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 220 points, T:193, killed by a coyote 11:15 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:16 hi 11:16 Hello Chris_ANG, Welcome to #hardfought 11:16 Chris_ANG: Message from @reapersan at 2018-10-30 18:41 EDT: literally just do this: https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/commit/75d99820e05c894d156988f042415c7482e9866e but for ranged weapons. it's when anything is seared by a material they hate, but you can't see them. it used to be for melee, you fixed that, but it's still present for ranged attacks (try firing a crossbow at a fey you can't see) 11:16 Chris_ANG: Message from @reapersan at 2018-10-30 18:45 EDT: are the drow crowning gifts giftable? they probably could be, might be some nice variety. 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2618248 points, T:51207, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/ninetale/nh361/dumplog/1540856566.nh361.txt 11:18 -!- ninetale has joined #hardfought 11:18 !lastgame ninetale 11:18 ninetale: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/ninetale/nh361/dumplog/1540856566.nh361.txt 11:18 you beat my score by 11k points :P 11:19 13k* 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 252 points, T:91, killed by a water moccasin 11:19 whats the score mean 11:19 thanks 11:19 and congrats 11:19 thank you bro! 11:19 just how much crap you managed to haul to astral 11:20 gems and such 11:20 ahha 11:22 I just strayed the path to make a pet saddled gray dragon 11:22 the lower the better i think 11:22 I think so 11:23 jonathanhanes: Not getting killed by VB is a side effect. Mainly I wished for VB so I could unrestrict saber (for Grayswandir) when I got crowned 11:23 It's like golf or something 11:23 wouldn't do it except I have a bunch of extra wishes 11:23 and the dragon is now a statue in gehennom 11:23 ah I see 11:23 I could also have sacc'ed trying to get Werebane, which I've done before, but I'm feeling lazy 11:24 all in all it's probably unnecessary to unrestrict it, considering it's still way more damage than i need, but... I'm a perfectionist in some ways that are harmful to my nethack game 11:26 tangles, mandevil, aosdict, K2, elenmirie, and raisse, thank you all for putting this together as always cheers :) 11:26 and to anyone else who may have contributed 11:26 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 11:27 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 11:34 -!- ninetale has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 374 points, T:848, killed by a small mimic 11:42 thanks jonathanhanes ;) 11:50 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 11:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:52094 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:52096 11:51 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (cockatrice), on T:3087 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 420 points, T:1019, killed by a dwarf 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53461 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:53535 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 490 points, T:2780, killed by a gnome lord 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3833 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) became Venus' Envoy of Balance, on T:54179 12:25 TNNT updated (all servers) 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayer, on T:54359 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:54368 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 882 points, T:1130, killed by an acidic corpse 12:36 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:38 -!- hf_guest_63412 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 12:39 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 12:44 @reapersan: the sear bug may be fixed (it doesn't crash on my system, but I fixed the message bug, and the message bug involved mis-handling buffers, soo....) 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7606 points, T:6159, killed by an invisible troll 12:54 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:10 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:6161 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] NonWonderDog (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 398 points, T:727, killed by a giant rat 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Lasci (Val Dwa Fem Law), 11865 points, T:7706, killed by a mumak 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] captainkale (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 191 points, T:504, killed by kicking a wall 13:24 -!- Lasci has joined #hardfought 13:24 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5031 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law), 8627 points, T:7641, killed by a mumak 13:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:28787 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:5676 13:41 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 13:46 !rng 13:46 jonathanhanes: !rng thomas richard harold ; !rng do dishes|play nethack ; !rng 1-100 13:48 <@spookidream> !rng death death death death death death death ascension 13:48 @spookidream: ascension 13:48 <@spookidream> 😎 13:48 hi @spookidream! SLEX 2.38 can be played on hdf-us now, with alias names ♥ 13:48 <@spookidream> I'll check it out after the tournament 😃 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:8750 13:49 but, there's still 6 hours until the tournament even starts! 13:50 <@spookidream> I can't play nethack all the time lol 13:50 !rng duck duck duck duck duck duck duck duck duck duck goose 13:50 aosdict: duck 13:50 I found out what a mumak is on my first trip to the sokoban zoo. ;-; 13:50 so close. 13:53 A mumak is a thing that you outrun. 13:53 I didn't realize what it was, hit it, and it butted me. 13:53 it was not pretty. 13:54 I should have backed off, healed, ate things, and waited until i was full health but ahhh 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3368 points, T:3352, killed by a mumak 13:55 <@Tone> Yeah mumaks are dangerous 13:55 <@Tone> They are slow though, so you can always run 13:57 !rng buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo 13:57 K2: buffalo 13:58 !buffalo 13:58 !rng get buffalo wings|get more buffalo wings 13:58 jonathanhanes: get more buffalo wings 14:00 huh I didn't know they can fly 14:00 !rng blue cheese|ranch dressing 14:00 jonathanhanes: blue cheese 14:00 I knew I could trust you beholderbot 14:01 buffalo only fly during the mating season 14:01 when buffalo wing farmers harvest them for their tasty tasty wings 14:01 roughly 600 per buffalo 14:03 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 14:03 * jonadab remembers fondly when buffalo wings were first introduced, and they had hot sauce on them and were actually good. 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11309 14:05 And then some restaurant -- probably pizza hut -- discovered that people would buy more of them if they came with ranch dressing for dipping. And didn't have hot sauce. 14:05 And buffalo wings were ruined. 14:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 419 points, T:439, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:08 -!- Dewzmint has joined #hardfought 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 97 points, T:204, killed by a water demon 14:13 -!- Lasci has quit [Quit: *poof*] 14:14 -!- Lasci has joined #hardfought 14:16 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:21 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed eyes of the overworld", on T:11887 14:27 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 943 points, T:1464, killed by a xorn 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 57 points, T:168, killed by a goblin 14:42 <@PsyMar> mumakil are basically elephants and also I'm scrolled up an hour 14:42 <@PsyMar> buffalo don't fly. the wings are too small to lift them. like penguins 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1157 points, T:1845, killed by a xorn 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:57532 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:57552 14:46 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (razor dragon), on T:29057 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:57589 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:57665 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:58088 14:56 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:58 -!- oh6_ has joined #hardfought 14:58 -!- oh6 has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:58 -!- oh6_ is now known as oh6 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Sam Hum Mal Law), 431 points, T:539, killed by a giant bat, while sleeping 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4283 points, T:2037, killed by a gnome lord 15:10 -!- hf_guest_92276 has joined #hardfought 15:18 -!- hf_guest_92276 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 15:18 <[Demo]1> see man, its just not worth it 15:18 <[Demo]1> its stuff like that why I dont play with c 15:19 <[Demo]1> stoning as a balance point is weird 15:20 he bit a chickatrice as a vampire lord 15:21 <[Demo]1> yikes 15:21 <[Demo]1> that shouldnt be a thing 15:21 i use c corpse all the time, every game... it's hurt me a few times, but i get more and more careful. It's definitely worth it, it makes some things WAY easier 15:22 but i haven't developed the same carefulness around self-poly 15:22 <[Demo]1> i just dont play c games 15:23 <[Demo]1> which makes my biggest cause on late/endgame yasds choking to death 15:23 <[Demo]1> so maybe i should play around with trices to balance that out 15:23 c are quite useful with covetous monsters 15:23 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 15:23 <[Demo]1> oh yeah sure 15:23 <[Demo]1> its a double edged sword that bites HARD 15:24 <[Demo]1> there are plenty of more dull single edge swords thatll get the job done usually 15:24 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 15:24 c are also useful for shopkeepers. Both alive (with conflict) and as a corpse (for murder) 15:25 <[Demo]1> there is a time early enough in the game when that makes sense, yeah 15:26 i only ever kill shopkeepers with c... I also only ever do the castle with c, and ludios with c 15:27 the drawbridge also works well for the castle 15:27 using the drawbridge would defeat the whole point of why I use c, to cut down on item destruction 15:29 it's a balance, because using c means you don't get death drops, so you have to decide which are worth more in each situation, drops or monster consumables 15:31 -!- hf_guest_63412 has joined #hardfought 15:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:33 -!- hf_guest_63412 has quit [Client Quit] 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 9956 points, T:2793, killed by a werewolf 15:35 pro tip: «Bandaging wounds helps keep apparances» 15:36 rumors.tru is "pro tips" now? 15:36 that’s rumors.tru? 15:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:38 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:38 rumors.tru is the source code file where the true fortune cookie messages are found. 15:38 usagi:dat$ grep Bandaging rumors* 15:38 rumors.tru:Bandaging wounds helps keep up appearances. 15:38 Compare rumors.fal, which is where the other ones are. 15:38 jonadab: s/true/helpful/ albeit the rule is not rigidly applied 15:38 And yes, "true" is... right. 15:39 In this case, it's in rumors.tru because it's a hint about one way to get into shops if you are invisible. 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] captainkale (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:7649 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 11882 points, T:9685, killed by a leocrotta, while frozen by a potion 15:40 A largely unused hint, because in general teleport control is available by the point in the game where you are long-term invisible. 15:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:41 Valks: shield of reflection or twoweaponing? 15:41 twoweapon, unless you don't have reflection otherwise 15:43 Shields are kind of underpowered in vanilla, compared to other options for the slot. 15:43 Especially once you have your other armor slots filled. 15:43 they should allow characters to dual-shield 15:43 lol 15:44 together with a sane movement option, it would be great for paci's 15:45 Isn't there a variant that allows dual-shield? 15:45 I wanna say d, not sure. 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:19679 15:48 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 15:50 it would be cool if, when you ascend with a figurine, you get to "keep" it and you can see it on your Figurines page, kinda like smash brothers trophies 15:51 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:20027 15:57 -!- Lasci has quit [Quit: *poof*] 15:57 -!- Lasci has joined #hardfought 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:20293 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Shadowcat33 (Nin Mal), 380 points, T:222, guard 16:09 -!- Dewzmint_ has joined #hardfought 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1184 points, T:2166, killed by a homunculus 16:10 -!- Dewzmint has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] ToneHack (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2110 16:13 jonadab: I dispute that teleport control is usually available by the time you become permainvis. 16:15 Permainvis is the minute you find a wand of invis, which can happen pretty early, or a blessed invis potion. 16:15 Both items are more common than teleport control rings or a rare lucky early tengu. 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh343] Shadowcat33 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 856 points, T:1213, killed by an iguana 16:17 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of protection", on T:20400 16:18 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a woodchuck, on T:6957 16:19 -!- Dewzmint_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] ToneHack (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2897 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 boots of speed", on T:20405 16:19 I had telecontrol before I had poison immunity on this particular character 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Kame (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:20409 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:62398 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:62399 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:62403 16:21 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 16:22 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:62482 16:24 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 16:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] captainkale (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9486 16:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] Shadowcat33 (Fla Elf Fem Neu), 66 points, T:152, killed by a water elemental 16:32 YANI: a little notepad for writing down anything, sorta like the #annotate command. useful for remembering aquired resistances tunes and such 16:32 on the other hand, there is the ! of enlightenment 16:32 nevermind 16:33 realinari: in NH4, the Ctrl-X screen can tell you your (known) resistances. 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] ToneHack (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5759 16:34 Does NH4 also do the "You must have gained poison resistance" messages, or is that fiqhack? 16:34 I think that's FIQHack. 16:34 fiqhsck 16:34 *fiqhack 16:34 But NH4 considers "You feel healthy" and such to be unambiguous and marks the resistance as known. 16:34 so NH4 just assumes the player knows what "you feel healthy" means? 16:34 OK. 16:35 <[Demo]1> poison immunity 16:35 Unknown resistances are e.g. from unidentified rings and such. 16:35 jonadab: aosdict: I added a message channel that gives hints towards unclear messages 16:35 in addition to the message itself 16:35 for new players 16:35 Ah. 16:35 that’s a bad way of solving it 16:35 And if we ever get customize UI for channelization... 16:35 i don’t want more info from the game 16:35 It can be toggled on or off 16:35 just a better way of remembering 16:35 in case you don't like the messages 16:35 FIQ: Also works for unambiguous messages for identify? 16:36 aosdict: Kind of 16:36