00:00 <[Demo]1> lol 00:00 the really old group of people from team lettuce 2 junethacks ago (?) has mostly scattered, some going to ootc, some congealing into what's now clan TNNT 00:01 i've got my sight set on the trophy for Most Total Number of Greased Pancakes 00:01 *readies grease* 00:01 heh 00:02 obligatory https://nhqdb.alt.org/?512 00:02 how the heck did you know there was a quote about greased pancakes 00:03 on account of months of clicking the "Random > 0" button out of boredom 00:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 945 points, T:1378, killed by a gnome lord 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:56767 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:56777 00:06 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 00:07 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 00:13 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:22 gnite o/ 00:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11790 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided disenchanter, on T:57903 00:25 -!- Vivit has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:30 *crosses orcus's level for the 6th time* 00:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2866 points, T:2362, killed by a watch captain 00:39 mysterious force seems to love juiblex's level for me 00:40 it should say, in the final game log, how many mysterious forces you got... just so you can brag about how badly the mysterious force jerked you around 00:40 or how many levels you were sent back, total 00:41 jesus someone's terminal on the server is 317x86 00:42 lol it's not even a fancy curses thingy. It's just nethack in a tiny corner of the screen 00:44 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 294 points, T:572, killed by a water elemental 00:45 <@FrightBox> that's an unacceptable amount of columns 00:45 <@FrightBox> they must have 4 monitors 00:45 <@FrightBox> all in a line 00:45 <@FrightBox> wait no that's rows, right? still unacceptable 00:46 <@spookidream> you thought that was big?? 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "a holy fixed +3 T-shirt named Greased Pancakes 2018", on T:60525 00:46 <@spookidream> oh god I can't see anything 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:19152 00:50 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:51 someone die on AU server please, I ascended like a month ago and I still get highlighted every time by !lastgame 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:60859 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:60867 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] PaciFIST (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24877 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "the holy greased +3 ring of increase damage", on T:60916 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "the holy greased +3 ring of increased damage", on T:60917 00:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:56 lol "increased damage" isn't a ring that exists 00:56 i got a ring of warning instead 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "the holy greased +3 ring of increase damage", on T:61172 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:61323 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61323 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 holy historic tins of spinach", on T:61426 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:61611 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21446 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 greased fixed pancakes", on T:61647 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 3137432 points, T:61647, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1540768184.nh361.txt 01:10 !streak hypnotist 01:10 nooodle: [hdf-us] hypnotist Max[nh362]: 12 (2018-07-16 - 2018-09-06). Current[nh362]: 5 (since 2018-10-18). 01:18 -!- nooodle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:18 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:21 <@FrightBox> noice 01:22 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 226 points, T:416, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7645 points, T:4896, killed by a leocrotta 01:40 <@Phazon> Oh, is Hardfought not a branch or something? 01:41 <@spookidream> it's a server 01:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 625 points, T:933, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted little dog 01:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 89 points, T:247, killed by a coyote 02:03 lol 02:03 reading old Dudley archives and saw "G because we finally got a new strip" after a 3-day hiatus 02:03 oh these poor innocent souls 02:05 (btw does anyone know who approves comics? dtype said he fixed the PHP and I submitted some comics, but they haven't been scheduled) 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23913 02:10 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 187 points, T:174, killed by a rabbit 02:13 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:15 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 02:18 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1572 points, T:1731, killed by a giant rat 02:44 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 860 points, T:1389, killed by a gnome lord 02:46 -!- ninetale has joined #hardfought 02:48 hi! 02:48 Hello ninetale, Welcome to #hardfought 02:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 287 points, T:536, killed by a dwarf 02:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:53 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 02:54 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 02:55 -!- realinari has quit [Client Quit] 02:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 204 points, T:689, killed by Mr. Raciborz, the shopkeeper 02:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:59 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 03:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 03:00 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 03:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "+2 blessed greased fixed silver dragon scale mail", on T:24397 03:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:08 -!- LanternTrickya has joined #hardfought 03:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LanternTrickya] by ChanServ 03:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:24900 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 44 points, T:238, killed by a fox 03:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2277 points, T:1952, killed by a killer bee 03:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Sakusen (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12320 03:58 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1250 points, T:2073, killed by a rabid rat 04:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 206 points, T:368, killed by something while blind 04:09 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 436 points, T:870, killed by a sewer rat, while helpless 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 412 points, T:631, killed by a gnome 04:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 823 points, T:1750, killed by a disenchanter 04:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 40 points, T:316, killed by a fox 04:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1188 points, T:2269, killed by a bat 04:39 -!- ninetale has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:52 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:17 -!- werekitten has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:18 -!- werekitten has joined #hardfought 05:21 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:01 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:12 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> do you guys play 3.6.2? or 3.4.3? I'm not sure where to start 06:18 start with unnethack *bundlebundlebundle* ;) 06:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:22 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 06:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 06:23 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:30 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> Ok so what is the command to pet my cat' 06:31 #chat (when it's happy it purrs, so I think chatting to your cat includes petting) 06:31 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> Heheheheheh I can chat with the pet 06:31 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> you know what that means right 06:32 if this is some kind of innuendo, no, I don't know what it means 06:32 I'm not good at guessing 06:33 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> Oh I thought you could write random stuff at someone 06:33 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> I tried chatting with a jackal and he bite me 06:33 (also I don't recognise your name, if you're someone I ought to know please tell me your non-halloween nick 06:33 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> I'm TinyReaver, I never played nethack but mtf convinced me 06:33 you can try to chat with anything (and sometimes get funny answers) but you can't choose what to say 06:34 ah, never mind, there are people here who I've known for years and now they change their name for halloween and I don't know who they are :-) 06:34 try to chat with a hobbit 06:36 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:37 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> Does this game has dcss-like exp management where you manual choose what to train? I'm still trying to find the manual to read 06:39 you train what you're wielding, you get a message when you can advance, but you can choose what to advance if there's more than one thing 06:39 or just choose not to advance that particular thing and wait until you have enough experience for what you really want 06:40 like when you're an arc and you've just been given Grayswandir, then you don't want to advance pickaxe, you want to wait until you have enough experience in saber 06:40 same for spells, you train in the school you're casting 06:40 (so it's a good idea to cast a lot of light and detect monsters to train divination for identify and magic mapping) 06:41 (I don't know anything about dcss, sorry) 06:42 -!- nooodle_ has joined #hardfought 06:42 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> Oh that's easier 06:42 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> the nethack way I mean 06:43 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> But my cat just killed an innocent goblin 06:43 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> and ate the corps 06:43 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 06:43 yes, pets do that 06:43 you don't get a penalty for it 06:43 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> What if I kill it? 06:44 cats need to eat 06:44 the cat? or a random peaceful monster? 06:45 don't kill your pet, you get a hefty penalty for it 06:45 (oh, and as for the manual, try the wiki (nethackwiki.org)) 06:45 -!- LanternTrickya has quit [*.net *.split] 06:45 -!- oh6 has quit [*.net *.split] 06:45 -!- ShivanHunter has quit [*.net *.split] 06:45 -!- Sigyn has quit [*.net *.split] 06:45 if your pet annoys you, start with pettype:none in your rc, or leave it on a level you're not going to visit again soon (it will become peaceful) 06:46 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> No i don't wanna kill my pet, he has to test poisonous food for me 06:47 you can't eat *everything* your pet eats (and vice versa: you can eat bjFP, and pets don't, because it's vegetarian) 06:48 don't eat yellow or purple mold though 06:48 and let the cat eat the bats 06:48 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> I knew that I should use my pet to see if that food/corpse is edible for me 06:49 <@Possessed Toy Reaver> If my pet won't eat it it's probably dangerous 06:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:54 -!- Cassieopeia_ has joined #hardfought 06:58 -!- Cassieopeia has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:41 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 07:46 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 07:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] u42586 (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 532 points, T:1752, killed by a kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:28 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 27194 points, T:15368, killed by a panther, while fainted from lack of food 08:33 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 08:44 -!- emerson is now known as GDPR 08:46 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:51 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:54 -!- Sigyn has joined #hardfought 08:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:56 -!- LanternTrickya has joined #hardfought 09:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:03 how is the list of vanquished creatures sorted? 09:03 by monster rating, toughest first 09:04 small mimic harder than leocrottas? 09:04 apparently 09:04 !ping 09:04 LanternTrickya: Pong! 09:04 or what does «toughest» mean? 09:04 look it up on the wiki, I never know any numbers 09:04 ah it’s a number? 09:04 monster rating, and ^ 09:04 the monster rating is a number yes 09:05 disregard the stupidity of that statement please 09:05 what i mean is, oh it’s not otherwise used for anything? 09:06 but yeah, looking it up 09:06 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Monsters_(by_difficulty) 09:07 oh, so it is used for monster generation.. 09:08 also to determine if a sacrifice has enough value to mollify your deity when they're angry 09:09 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:09 small mimic and leocrotta are both difficulty 8 09:10 don't know how vanquished breaks ties 09:10 probably by order in mons[], so m < q 09:10 yeah, i just figured that it couldn’t possibly be sorted by difficulty seeing that the small mimic was that far up on my list.. 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh4] 1 (u42586) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 24207 points, T:1536, killed by a magic missile 09:11 gnomes with wands also hard.. 09:16 I politely disagree with pretty much every monster difficulty rating on that list 09:16 ;) 09:17 realinari: well the good news is that vanilla recently made it a LOT easier to tweak those values up or down 09:18 aosdict: yeah, i heard some talking about not using some list or some function or something for determining monster difficulty or something 09:19 but i’m blissfully unaware 09:19 of the neuances 09:19 realinari: Until very recently, the monster difficulty was calculated in makedefs based on a formula that was out of date and did not account for some of the modern mechanics. 09:19 I think I heard something about its recently being moved into monst.c, which is where it belongs really. 09:19 like how leocrottas like the taste of blood i assume 09:20 <@Tone> aosdict: oh is that why I've seen a lot of monster difficulty discussion lately? I'll have to take a look at what's changed 09:20 <@Tone> oh actually what you said doesn't imply any numbers have actually changed yet 09:20 The old formula in makedefs was _really_ overly simplistic. 09:21 @Tone actually, I don't know if anybody has compared yet to see if any values changed or not. 09:21 (This could be automated. And should be, because it'd be tedious to do by hand.) 09:23 <@Tone> Ah, good to know 09:23 -!- [Demo]1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 -!- [Demo]1 has joined #hardfought 09:34 -!- LanternTrickya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 95 points, T:661, killed by a small mimic 09:35 :( 09:35 careless. i need to stop being careless like that if i want 20+ streaks 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4907 points, T:4571, killed by an orc-captain 09:37 jonadab: It might be considered overly complicated... special exceptions for leprechauns and grid bugs, anyone? 09:38 Pretty sure no values have actually changed though. 09:46 aosdict: leprechauns and grid bugs have been in the game since Hack 1.0, that is why there are special exceptions for them. 09:46 Much more dangerous things, like soldier ants, have no such special treatment. 09:57 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:04 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:18 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 10:21 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a figurine of a newt named Gingrich on an altar, on T:5673 10:31 is that a [[figurine of a newt] named Gingrich] or a [figurine of][a newt named Gingrich]? 10:31 when you apply it, will the newt be named Gingrich? 10:31 yes 10:31 and the first one is how it considers it 10:32 lol 10:38 ehhhm, how do shopkeepers feel about me zapping their goods with a wand of teleport? 10:38 They probably will object 10:39 one of my favorite lines in nethack is "You neutralize it, you buy it!" 10:39 [hdf-us] [dyn] Fizzle (caco) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 217 points, T:693, killed by a gas spore's explosion 10:39 hahaha 10:48 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:49 ihtg 10:50 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 10:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 10:51 how many floating eyes is it necessary to spawn on a single level? 10:51 as many as you need to randomly run into one and get killed by a newt. 10:51 took me 5 10:52 floating eyestorm 10:52 and when i actually hit it, i thought: «oh well, that was stupid, but at least i’m totally surrounded by floating eyes, so nothing else can get to me.. 10:53 and then one moves and lets a gecko through 10:53 and i learn that digging counts as attacking 10:53 ah yes 10:53 the bane of monks everywhere 10:54 realinari: My favorite trick relevant to floating eyes is to use capital-letter movement most of the time. 10:54 And/or travel. 10:54 yeah, but how do i capital letter move-dig 10:54 ? 10:55 Oh, digging, right. 10:55 Yeah, that's trickier. 10:55 Unless you're a scurrier. 10:55 ikr 10:55 <@spookidream> jonadab: in fourk if you have autodig off you still anger the watch by moving into walls 10:55 <@spookidream> is this a bug? 10:55 YANI: magical gloves called 'monkbane' that 1) allows a monk to dual wield and 2) spawns two curses pick-axe, one in each hand. 10:55 <@spookidream> (as a scurrier) 10:55 gloves are also cursed 10:56 @spookidream It's a bug, yes; but it's a UIM bug, and thus one that I probably don't have the programming chops to fix at this time. 10:56 err 10:56 EPI not YANI 10:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:56 I was gonna say 10:56 Ctrl-dir is generally preferable to shift-dir 10:57 IT's only _really_ evil if they spawn the cursed pick-axes every single time you put them on. 10:57 <@spookidream> okay, I wasn't sure if you were aware of it or not 10:57 <@spookidream> infinite pickaxes 10:57 <@spookidream> for any monk that can cast remove curse 10:57 Pinkbeast: Hmm, I've heard that, but can't ever remember the actual difference. 10:57 gloves only work once 10:58 once removed, they disintigrate 10:58 <@spookidream> now you have permanent twoweapon 10:58 Hmm. Can you still dual-wield after you uncurse the pick-axes? 10:58 <@spookidream> seems worth it 10:58 no 10:58 removing gloves removes dual wield too 10:58 must be EPI from start to finish ;) 10:59 jonadab: One obvious difference is that shift-dir runs into known traps 10:59 Oh. Was not aware of that. 10:59 or instead of dual wield and pick axes, it just spawns a mattock 10:59 That's probably better. 10:59 if wearing a shield, destroys shield 10:59 Especially given the mattock's to-hit penalty. 11:00 monkbane! 11:00 Really, to be proper monkbane, it should also destroy your robe. 11:00 ouch 11:00 Or, you know, whatever kind of cloak you happen to be wearing. 11:01 or it turns you into a huge chunk of meat and you have to eat yourself to change back to normal 11:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:01 no more vege conduct 11:02 Eh, just make it so you can no longer gain nutrition from eating vegetarian items of any kind. 11:02 'jonadab polymorphs into a meat popsicle' 11:02 lol this is so silly 11:03 jonadab: How about it just genocides cloaks forever so you can never have a cloak again 11:04 <@spookidream> aren't you already a huge chunk of meat 11:05 hahah 11:05 thats my stage name 11:06 <@spookidream> on that note, I'm surprised trying to eat . doesn't say "Autocannibalism is not the answer" 11:06 <@spookidream> nethack could use another zork reference I think 11:11 damn i miss zork 11:11 elvish sword! 11:12 !who 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 324 points, T:749, killed by a gas cloud 11:12 K2: [hdf-us] Karnac [tnnt] Hill [tnnt] Eleven [nh362] hypnotist [nh362] zoya [nh362] | [hdf-eu] inari [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:12 ok thats working 11:12 did you all know that you can see who's playing via the front page of the hdf website? 11:13 does our win record reset at the start of the tourney? 11:13 yes 11:13 cheers 11:13 everything gets reset to 0 11:14 xlogiles, current/saved games, bones files, swap chest 11:14 xlogfiles 11:14 all goes buh-bye 11:14 I had assumed so 11:14 <@spookidream> gotta have fun right? 11:14 si 11:15 but never hurts to ask 11:15 K2: Are we seeding the swap chest with anything? 11:15 no such thing as stupid question 11:15 or just relying on random generosity 11:15 aosdict good question 11:15 hmm 11:15 should we? 11:15 <[Demo]1> seed with a runesword 11:15 maybe just a couple small items 11:16 a spellbook of wizard lock and a dried out magic marker 11:16 <[Demo]1> put in a runesword, a crysknife, and a blessed woodchuck figurine 11:16 lol 11:16 Carl! 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3139 points, T:3490, killed by a killer bee 11:16 <@spookidream> crysknife would be too good 11:16 <@spookidream> I think runesword is worse than elven broadsword anyway 11:16 <@spookidream> it's just cool 11:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:19 someone might therefore take it because it's cool 11:19 the items don't need to be good, they need to be worthwhile 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 111 points, T:350, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:29283 11:21 -!- LanternTrickya has joined #hardfought 11:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LanternTrickya] by ChanServ 11:27 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:28 can opener good for forcing chests? 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1186 points, T:1413, quit 11:29 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:29 no 11:29 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 11:30 rune/broadswords are heavy 11:30 70 wt vs 40 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 576 points, T:1265, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome 11:39 [hdf-us] [dyn] Kork (caco) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 200 points, T:417, killed by a sewer rat 11:44 [hdf-us] [dyn] Heinrich (caco) (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 44 points, T:182, killed by a kitten 11:46 !who 11:46 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] Karnac [tnnt] oh6 [tnnt] Hill [tnnt] hypnotist [nh362] samiam [nh362] PavelB [xnh] | [hdf-eu] inari [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1219 points, T:1869, killed by a little dog 11:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 946 points, T:2148, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 158 points, T:473, killed by a hobbit 12:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2318 12:09 <[Demo]1> in dnh devel rn monks have 3 hands so there should be 1 and a half handed weapons 12:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:18 K2: no, I didn't know that 12:20 can't find it though 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 788 points, T:1383, killed by a giant ant 12:29 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:31 TNNT updated (all servers) 12:31 <[Demo]1> I'm a power load 12:32 K2: *how* do I see who's playing via the front page of the hdf website? I don't see it anywhere, perhaps I'm shortsighted 12:32 right side 12:32 under server status 12:33 oh right! 12:33 is that only us? 12:33 that updates once/min 12:33 you have to refresh page yourself 12:33 no its all 3 12:34 one of these days i'll figure out how to ajax-ify it 12:34 <[Demo]1> who wrote tnnt Web ? 12:35 The RNG 12:35 <[Demo]1> the rng doesn't write webpages 12:35 how would you know 12:35 html dumplogs 12:36 <[Demo]1> lol 12:36 ;) 12:36 mandevil made the templates, aosdict and I have done front-end stuff. the design and color scheme is aosdict 12:37 I think html dumplogs are strictly non-random. 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 1803 points, T:1638, killed by an Uruk-hai 12:38 <[Demo]1> it looks good last I looked at it 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1160 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1967 points, T:2027, killed by a fire ant 12:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 843 points, T:688, killed by a storm giant 12:59 TNNT updated 9all servers) 12:59 ( 13:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:02 damn these jalapenoes are hot 13:02 like, more hot than usual 13:03 is -es the right pluralization? I thought it was jalapenos 13:03 you're asking me 13:03 but I don't speak spanish, or anglicized spanish 13:04 for anything spelling or grammar related, i would defer to anyone else here 13:04 when I was younger, I always thought the plural of "buffalo" was "buffaloes", analogous to "potatoes" and "tomatoes" 13:04 ;) 13:04 plural of moose is 'meese' 13:04 LanternTrickya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo 13:04 lol 13:05 wut I didn't know that about the pluralization 13:05 one of my favorite wikipedia pages 13:05 K2 is pulling your leg regarding moose 13:06 just checked in slex by spawning some buffalos: the killed monster list says I killed 0 buffalos, i.e. it does use the -s plural form 13:06 aosdict: nah I knew that the moose thing was a joke (goose -> geese), I wondered about "buffalo" being the singular and plural 13:07 the correct plural is "bison". fight me 13:07 aosdict: shouldn’t it be Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo? 13:07 or is there a second interpretation? 13:07 aosdict: what if I refer to the shoes? am I wearing a pair of buffalo or a pair of buffalos or ??? 13:09 realinari: (Buffalo buffalo) [that] (Buffalo buffalo buffalo) [,] (buffalo Buffalo buffalo) 13:10 LanternTrickya: I wasn't aware that there were irl shoes named "buffalo" 13:11 aosdict: really? are they not common where you live? here's me wearing a pair of them: https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/aaaaaimbot/72497808/13273/13273_300.jpg - in the nineties, the spice girls made that type of shoe very famous! 13:11 raise your hand if the word "buffalo" is not totally semantically satiated for you 13:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:11 s/not/now/ 13:12 LanternTrickya: I would attribute this to me generally knowing very little about shoes. 13:12 ah I see 13:12 bison != buffalo 13:12 they are two different animals 13:13 related, but different 13:14 K2: hm north america has no native buffalo, right? 13:14 correct 13:14 american bison (which ppl mistakenly call a buffalo) 13:15 true buffalo are found in africa and i think southeast asia 13:15 india 13:15 but i could be wrong on that 13:16 having said all that - fresh bison steak is fucking awesome 13:16 when i lived in texas, my aptarment was about 3 miles down the road from a bison farm 13:17 steakhouse nearby got fresh meat direct from the farm 13:17 soooooooo goooooood 13:17 *apartment 13:17 ffs 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 416 points, T:1169, killed by a rabid rat 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4 points, T:23, killed by a kobold 13:24 craving some good sushi 13:24 at 10:30 am 13:33 * K2 loves sushi 13:34 !lastgame k2 13:34 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nh361/dumplog/1540670115.nh361.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nhfourk/dumps/2018-10-07%2003%3A07%3A15%2C%20k2-Wiz-Syl-Fem-Neu%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/splicehack/dumplog/1532712486.splice.txt 13:35 at some point i need to change the holdover nh361 bits 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an engagement ring on an altar, on T:3423 13:38 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:41 !lastgame jonathanhanes 13:41 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/dynahack/dumplog/2018-06-01%2023_07_25%2C%20randumb-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 13:41 3 uncursed [stale] eggs 13:42 ??? 13:46 rotten eggs… 13:47 i expect it determines both the rotten state if you eat it, as well as if it can hatch. 13:48 YANI: Some interaction between actual rotten eggs and stinking clouds, which smell like rotten eggs. 13:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:49 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:50 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 13:50 aosdict: non-stale eggs caught in stinking cloud turns into cockatrice eggs, i.e. stoning grenades 13:50 Maybe just a short-lived stinking cloud if you throw one. 13:50 Chris_ANG: Messages from @reapersan have been forwarded to you privately. 13:51 Also, if someone hasn't YANIed "make thrown potions of sickness produce stinking cloud" yet <- YANI 13:51 Chris_ANG: That would certainly give them some utility. 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 32 points, T:33, killed by an electric shock 13:52 The eggs, not the sickness. 13:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:53 YANI: make potions of sickness cure you of illness and other issues caused by eating things, via making the hero throw up 13:53 similarly it would be cool if thrown blindness created clouds, but that would involve actually changing the terrain, which is probably a no-no 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 15 points, T:109, killed by a bolt of lightning 13:54 realinari: That's consistent with their use to shock you out of hallucination. 13:54 aosdict: oh thanks, i didn’t know that 13:55 will everything that makes you sick cure hallucination? 13:55 like rotten eggs? 13:55 ;) 13:56 <@spookidream> hallu is good. Makes you death immune 13:56 realinari: just the potion, not vomiting 13:57 Similarly, sickness shouldn't cure you of food poisoning directly, it should indirectly induce vomiting. 14:00 on a lighter note, if anyone wants to see me die to soldier ants, you can watch at hdf-eu 14:01 aosdict: No, you could add a new cloud zone that can handle making the square opaque. I think the existing zone code can handle making it clear again, too. 14:03 Yeah, there's a framework for calling an "expire_" function, which should be able to handle re-setting the opacity of the square. 14:03 Yes, the existing region code would support temporary clouds that do nothing but block vision (and aren't CLOUD terrain), but not sure how they would interact with stinking clouds. 14:04 Did you know your account only registers the first 8 letters of your password? 14:04 It also probably wouldn't affect monsters. 14:04 jonathanhanes: nag dtype about it 14:04 is it a bug or a feature? :P 14:05 In dnh it would, I think, but in most variants monsters just automatically know your position. 14:06 !tell dtype accounts only register the first 8 characters of your password ie. if my password is 1234567890 I only need to type 12345678 to login 14:06 No worries, jonathanhanes, I've got this! 14:06 Not affecting monsters would mean it's useless for the player to throw... but I guess monsters would still throw it. 14:07 yes yes well known 14:07 dtype: Message from jonathanhanes at 2018-10-30 14:06 EDT: accounts only register the first 8 characters of your password ie. if my password is 1234567890 I only need to type 12345678 to login 14:08 ...Assuming I'm interpreting clear_path() properly, in dnh monsters would indeed lose sight of you as a result of the cloud appearing. 14:08 is super old crypt() 14:08 haven't gotten around to changing yet 14:08 in practice people brute forcing for nethack passwords hasn't been an issue. :) 14:08 but yes, it should be better 14:08 you still have the old crypt? o_O 14:09 I figured I wasn't the first person to notice but thought I'd bring it up anyway :D 14:09 I actually noticed about a year ago and never said anything o.o 14:09 i thought you used kerios dgl when you moved servers in 2015 14:10 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 14:11 -!- ShivanHunter has joined #hardfought 14:17 !tell K2 is there a chance to see slex 2.38 on hdf? I just pushed what is likely to be the last update for the next couple of days *bundlebundlebundle* ;) 14:17 No worries, LanternTrickya, I've got this! 14:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:24 yeah 14:24 K2: Message from LanternTrickya at 2018-10-30 14:17 EDT: is there a chance to see slex 2.38 on hdf? I just pushed what is likely to be the last update for the next couple of days *bundlebundlebundle* ;) 14:25 i meant to last night, obviously didnt happen 14:26 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:27 K2: okay, that gave me the ability to do that last bunch of changes before it goes live :) 14:28 cool ;) 14:36 YANI: slow down _ travel and optionally movement when having a slow pet leashed 14:39 K2: ...and the back-end wrote itself. 14:39 i said you did the templates and stuff 14:40 I think he is referring to the perl code that actually crunches the data 14:40 templates don't take xlogfiles as input 14:40 then i worded it wrong 14:40 Mandevil: Creator of the scoreboard, the website, and the backend that turns raw game logs into tables of game statistics and trophies. 14:40 ^ from the about page 14:41 No need to dwell on that, I meant it as a joke. 14:41 ah 14:41 i tend to take you seriously 14:41 since you're a serious person 14:41 ;) 14:41 Most of the time, but not all the time. 14:42 i'm going to put sparkles and rainbows next to your name on the tnnt website 14:42 my daughter will love it 14:42 your humorous overtones are stripped away in the byte stream 14:42 lol 14:42 also, more importantly, anyone's sarcastic overtones 14:42 Hm. 14:43 i use my betazoid heritage to sense your emotional states 14:43 Anything to be done on my part tomorrow? 14:43 I don't think so, just want to be sure. 14:43 i think we're good Mandevil 14:43 i need to remember to adjust the epoch start time in the config.json 14:43 i think thats the only web bit 14:44 K2: Just uncomment, the values should be correct (no harm in re-checking though). 14:44 yup I didn't erase your original entry 14:45 in about... 5.5 hrs from now is when i'll start The Scrub™ 14:45 Poor guys who won games.... 14:45 like Luxidream. 14:45 well 14:45 These are going to disappear from the record. 14:45 The dumplogs will still exist right? 14:45 the ttyrecs and dumplogs will still be intact 14:45 aosdict: Unless K2 wipes them. 14:46 and maybe we back up the xlogfile 14:46 historical archive data 14:46 no need to backup the xlog 14:46 trivial to do tho 14:46 note to self - inbetween tournaments, have the dumplog state that its in beta test mode 14:46 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:47 Hmm, I wonder if anyone's going to want to play the TNNT game when the tournament is far away, like in January. 14:47 but its all moot anyways, as the scoreboard will only show games for november 14:48 aosdict: maybe 14:48 hmm 14:48 will worry about that come december 14:48 K2: of course, if only one person is playing, they can trivially stuff the swapchest full of wands of wishing 14:49 hahahah 14:49 aosdict sits down to play TNNT, months after the tournament ends. finds the swap chest and inside are 23 wands of wishing 14:49 probably better to just say that in the off season, if someone wants to play tnnt, they can build it themselves 14:50 ^ that 14:52 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 14:54 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 14:54 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 14:57 `/join #stata 14:57 ops 14:57 my bad 14:59 -!- hf_guest_69918 has joined #hardfought 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1459 points, T:2696, killed by a watchman 15:03 -!- hf_guest_69918 is now known as luxidwarf 15:03 !who 15:03 luxidream: [hdf-us] jonathanhanes [tnnt] vivit [tnnt] ShivanHunter [tnnt] Hill [tnnt] hypnotist [nh362] zoya [nh362] PaciFIST [nh362] Cropper [nh362] u42586 [nh4] | [hdf-eu] inari [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:04 -!- luxidream has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:06 -!- luxidwarf has quit [Quit: *poof*] 15:09 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 15:10 LanternTrickya 15:10 you still here? 15:10 yes 15:10 compiling on hdf-us right now 15:11 okay, I'm crossing my fingers 15:11 there is a new makefile that uses the -O flag now 15:11 cmd.c:9:18: fatal error: date.h: No such file or directory 15:12 i vaguely remember this being an issue once before 15:12 oh yeah, I always get that one on esm too, I should finally include date.h in the source 15:12 <@ChrisANG> @reapersan Blarg: "abort trap" is just another term for segmentation fault. So you're going to have to be more specific. 15:13 ... 15:13 <@ChrisANG> What did you sear with what? 15:13 this is include/date.h that i have for slex 2.3.2 15:13 http://termbin.com/eidp 15:13 which means makedefs isnt generating the file 15:14 makedefs does generate it, but too late, i.e. something depends on it that gets compiled before makedefs makes it 15:14 no idea what though 15:15 util/makedefs.c for slex 2.3.2 15:15 http://termbin.com/39up 15:16 date.h should be made by that... weird... 15:16 welp 15:16 i cant go any further until you figure it out 15:16 if i could help you with this bit, i would 15:17 it literally doesn't matter what is in date.h because the compile process does create a 2.38 one (seen when I compiled 2.38 on esm); just made it so that a dummy date.h is in the repo, so if you pull now, it should work :) 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3050 points, T:5534, killed by a giant beetle 15:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:18 blah 15:18 K2: can you pull from master and try again and tell me whether the error still happens? 15:18 yup 15:19 aaaaaand when i do a make spotless, because you know, its slex 15:19 date.h goes away 15:19 you really need to fix this proper 15:20 nooooou! 15:20 ohuh, naughty hack! 15:20 updating from one version to a newer one never works with slex unless i make clean / make spotless 15:20 alright so cmd.c needs date.h, yet somehow date.h isn't there when cmd.c is being compiled... hmm... 15:23 oh *that's* why... slex made it so that cmd.c needs date.h, it's not the case in any other variant 15:23 well then 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3600 points, T:2683, poisoned by an orcish arrow 15:23 \o/ 15:24 TIL: make spotless. I always figured "make clean" was the appropriate command. 15:24 in most cases 15:25 but if you really want to start with a blank slate, make sptless 15:25 spotless 15:26 added a date.h dependency for cmd.c in the makefile, not sure if it compiles now 15:26 ok one min 15:28 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2212 points, T:4096, killed by a pony 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 171 points, T:533, killed by a coyote 15:29 actually, pushed another change that might make it work at last 15:31 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 15:33 if it still doesn't want to compile, I have one last card up my sleeve, a change to Makefile.utl 15:34 one sec 15:34 K2: will push that last one if the current setup doesn't make it work 15:34 dont change anything else yet please 15:34 ok 15:34 LanternTrickya: Make it so that permonst.h requires date.h and see what happens. 15:34 -!- Chansu has quit [Client Quit] 15:34 It'll be fun, it'll be fun, it'll be fun. 15:35 heh, the only reason why cmd.c requires it is that the final dumplog shows the version number you've been playing 15:35 (permonst.h is needed by makedefs.c ...) 15:36 i like how monsters now carry candles in dark spaces.. 15:36 is that 3.6.2? 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3375 points, T:2148, killed by a mumak 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:4927 15:38 LanternTrickya 15:38 yes? 15:38 is there something in your makefiles that resets include/config.h ?? 15:38 would need to check 15:40 clean: -rm -f *.o nhwin.a $(HACK_H) $(CONFIG_H) 15:40 for fucksake 15:40 would that cause config.h to be removed? 15:40 its removing it and rebuilding it from default 15:41 damn 15:41 would need to ask Elronnd about that, he knows the makefiles better than I do 15:41 everytime i do an uopdate, i have to rip out all the crap he puts in it 15:42 but i never realized this was happening... which would explain a few things 15:42 I told him about it, hopefully he's here and can tell me why that crap is happening 15:42 Instead of editing config.h directly, add automated editing of it to your build script :-) 15:42 if not... *shudder* then I'd need to ask kerio, who originally worked on those makefiles 15:43 i wouldnt bother LanternTrickya 15:43 what line was that statement ? 15:43 the clean -rm etc etc 15:43 it's in makefile.src, one moment I'll get the line number 15:44 makefile.src line 702 15:44 yup 15:44 Also: aimake.rules for slex when? 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 623 points, T:864, killed by a hobbit 15:45 -!- Elronnd has joined #hardfought 15:46 LanternTrickya, K2: I have to go to exams now, but try chmod a-w include/config.h 15:46 Elronnd: oh I see, well good luck! 15:46 <[Demo]1> lmao 15:47 K2: how do we prevent it from happening in every future version? i.e. what do I edit in the makefile.src? 15:48 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 15:49 <@Tone> realinari Gnomes using candles in the mines was added in 361 I think. Possibly 360 15:50 LanternTrickya line 702 in Makefile.src 15:50 <@Tone> Very common in NH4 too 15:50 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 15:50 i commented out $(CONFIG_H) 15:50 K2: okay, I'll make that an official change 15:50 thanks 15:52 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:52 pushed! now that problem should be a thing of the past :) 15:55 great 15:56 compiling 15:56 huh. so that line was like that even before kerio and I started working on slex... i.e. it was like that in the SLASH'EM I based SLEX on, too! 15:56 yeah 15:57 so slexupdates are far/few between, but i do remember always fighting with config.h 15:57 that explains why 15:58 i need to dbl-check my makesfiles for my copy of slashem, but i dont recall having config.h issues 15:58 yeah; good thing we figured it out at last! I rarely make clean on esm but I do remember having config.h problems occasionally without being able to pinpoint why they were happening 15:59 i blame Elronnd 15:59 * K2 pokes Elronnd 15:59 you and your if #0 /* it's 2015 so why not? */ crap 15:59 compile complete 15:59 "if #0"? 16:00 https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/blob/master/include/config.h 16:00 K2: your slashem repo has that same line though, line 614 in makefile.src 16:00 so instead of a nice neat nhdat file (or in slex case, 2 nhdat type files) Elronnd would rather every single file be uncompressed and not in any kind of container 16:01 although I guess you didn't savebreak slashem yet, so you rarely need to make clean, or do you generally make clean when deploying a new version? 16:01 so your dat/ folder winds up with hundreds of individual files 16:01 LanternTrickya I havent had to make clean or spotless on my build of slashem yet 16:01 good to know 16:01 ah I see 16:02 so yeah, I guess you'll want to edit the makefile.src for slashem, now that we know about this oddity :) 16:03 anyway, you said the compile completed? without errors? :) 16:03 it did 16:04 yay! 16:04 but i need to tweak my config.h again, forgot one lil bit thats hdf specific 16:04 so recompiling 16:04 only takes about 3.5 min on this machine 16:04 ah ok 16:04 wow that's fast! 16:04 which is about 3x longer to compile than any other variant hdf hosts 16:05 nethack 3.6.2 takes about 17 seconds from a make spotless standpoint 16:05 <[Demo]1> wow 16:05 8 cores + SSD 16:06 <[Demo]1> id ask how fast dnh takes 16:06 <[Demo]1> but i know all too well :P 16:06 about 2 min if i remember 16:06 at least on my end dnethack takes quite a bit, i.e. several minutes 16:06 its been awhile since i've had to update 16:06 well, dnhslex actually, but it doesn't add all that much stuff over dnethack 16:06 HDD vs SDD is biggest bottleneck most likely 16:07 <[Demo]1> not if 3 raid 0 hdd for 3x hdd super speed yee 16:07 ok done 16:07 ok there we go 16:07 now lets get dgl setup proper 16:11 -!- realinari has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16 -!- Dewzmint has joined #hardfought 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1609 points, T:1619, quit 16:18 LanternTrickya --> Unix SlashEMExtended Version 2.3.8 (12aa8d3) - last build Tue Oct 30 16:03:44 2018. 16:18 hdf-us 16:18 i'll do hdf-eu and au tonight 16:19 i need to rest my brain heh 16:19 K2: thanks! I guess I need to reset dgamelaunch for it? 16:19 if you're in it right now, yes 16:20 yay it woooooorks ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ many thanks, my beloved K2-bundlehare! *kiss* 16:20 beholder doesnt know about 2.3.8 yet, i'll update it later too 16:20 <[Demo]1> bundle beholder into knowing 16:21 @Luxidream: you here? you can now play SLEX 2.38 in bundlealias mode on hdf-us! ♥ 16:22 [Demo]1 lol 16:26 K2: is there a way to copy my hdf-eu rcfile (which is my main one) to hdf-us? or does it only work the other way around? 16:30 ah its just from hdf-us to the other 2 16:30 okay I'll copy it over by hand ;) 16:30 one sec 16:30 no 16:30 one sec 16:30 you play as AmyBSOD yeah? 16:30 yes 16:30 my hdf-eu slexrc is the one optimized for 2.38, and the one I wanna use 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12176 points, T:5345, killed by a chameleon imitating a pit fiend, while praying 16:32 LanternTrickya ok you're set 16:32 cooooool thanks a lot! :) 16:32 \o/ 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3313 points, T:1366, killed by a wolf 16:33 okay I'll so totally play now for about one hour at least, then it's probably time to go to bed 16:33 pro tip: https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/AmyBSOD.slexrc 16:33 copy from web browser window 16:33 open up web rc editor on hdf-us 16:33 paste 16:33 oh *headdesk* I completely forgot about the existence of the web editor! 16:34 sorry :( I'll try to remember it next time 16:34 heh 16:35 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 5449 points, T:4096, killed by a Green-elf 16:35 cool, apparently this character started with werefooitis 16:35 someday i need to make the web editor accessible for au and eu cfgs too 16:35 that'll be a bit of work 16:38 awesome, my ping to hdf-us is only about 129 ms! it doesn't even feel laggy! 16:38 \o/ 16:38 before my move, I would have been lucky to have 400-something ms to hdf-us 16:38 when did you move? 16:39 about two months ago 16:39 ahhh 16:39 same town? 16:39 not exactly the same town, but close enough (about 12 km distance I think) 16:39 it also means I technically no longer have a roommate, because she didn't move with me, but we're still very close and help each other as good as we can 16:40 nice 16:40 so your bills just about doubled then 16:40 so for the sake of it I'll still refer to her as my roommate, and maybe one day she'll move to me :) 16:40 yeah, sadly 16:40 the privacy is worth the extra cost 16:40 imo 16:41 heh, I wish she was here with me... but at least we'll go to a restaurant tomorrow (probably) 16:41 12km... roughly 7 miles 16:41 that's nothing heh 16:41 hmm closer to 8 16:41 but still 16:42 okay just looked on google maps, 14.2 km if you go by car 16:45 K2: what's the saying? americans think 100 years is a long time, europeans think 100 miles is a long distance? 16:45 sounds right ;) 16:46 alrighty... time to go get mini-me 16:46 cya tonight 16:46 last week I regularly travelled about 125 miles by train (63 in one direction and then the same amount on the way back) 16:47 see you K2, and thanks for deploying slex! :) 16:48 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 760 points, T:1111, killed by a gnome lord 16:52 wonder if K2 will be back before the PURGE happens 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2142 points, T:1725, killed by a killer bee, while praying 16:55 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 16:55 * raisse reads lotsa backscroll 16:59 ok. so i'm dumb and don't know what to do with these 3 scrolls of code and I threw it at one of the devs and they all tried to kill me 17:00 #chat to them? (after you pacify them I suppose) 17:00 hey now! i'm not looking to be spoiled, raisse!!! i just wanted to be laughed at 17:00 j/k yeah i think i tried chatting and all that stuff before i resorted to throwing 17:02 I know aosdict knows how to give them the scrolls... 17:02 i chatted to everyone and just got funny messages 17:03 inside jokes and such 17:03 but yes. I need to pacify now if that's even possible (i do know charm monster) 17:04 I have secret inside information that it's possible to pacify them 17:04 but I don't know what to do with the scrolls either 17:05 raisse: at XL 30. with them drained to level 1. with a 2% success rate. 17:05 rebatela: just get the heck out of there, you're not pacifying them 17:05 a 2% success rate is a nonzero success rate. 17:11 aosdict: yeah i already left 17:14 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:14 anyone ever conver a knight to neutral ? 17:14 I don't know how to make them not get mad if you throw scrolls at them 17:14 but they should probably change dialogue from the funny messages if you chat to them carrying scrolls 17:15 i'm not worried about it. I'm just dumb i guess. I had the scrolls and just couldn't figure out what to do . the snacks were nice though 17:17 rebatela: yeah going to patch that so they're explicit about it if you chat to them carrying the scrolls 17:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:25 -!- Ashpool has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:25 K2: the it's 2015 so why not is kerio, not me 17:29 -!- Ashpool has joined #hardfought 17:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:35 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 17:36 -!- Ashpool has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:37 -!- MisteryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:39 -!- Ashpool has joined #hardfought 17:44 -!- Ashpool has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4764 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5729 points, T:4764, killed by a soldier, while praying 17:47 -!- Ashpool has joined #hardfought 17:49 Elronnd ;) 17:53 -!- LanternTrickya has quit [Quit: <3] 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 594 points, T:901, killed by a giant spider 17:57 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Lasci (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Felicity, her faithful kitten, on T:1249 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 72 points, T:164, killed by a wand 18:05 -!- Dewzmint_ has joined #hardfought 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2139 points, T:2273, killed by a gnome king 18:05 go rebatela! 2 hours until you get kicked out! 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] captainkale (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 936 points, T:2804, killed by an imp, while fainted from lack of food 18:14 -!- Dewzmint_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:16 keep hearing about this swap chest 18:16 I'm guessing it's some kind of chest 18:16 with some kind of swap mechanic 18:18 good guess 18:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:19 -!- Dewzmint has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:21 -!- hf_guest_33054 has joined #hardfought 18:24 -!- hf_guest_33054 has quit [Client Quit] 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] Lasci (Val Dwa Fem Law), 813 points, T:2576, killed by an iguana, while fainted from lack of food 18:25 heh 18:25 wait 18:25 i thought it was supposed to be a 'swamp chest' 18:35 stupid idea is generating them in swamps 18:36 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: stealing from shopkeepers] 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:33924 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:33927 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:33930 18:40 <@reapersan> chris you here 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 t-shirt", on T:33932 18:41 <@reapersan> !tell Chris_ANG literally just do this: https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/commit/75d99820e05c894d156988f042415c7482e9866e but for ranged weapons. it's when anything is seared by a material they hate, but you can't see them. it used to be for melee, you fixed that, but it's still present for ranged attacks (try firing a crossbow at a fey you can't see) 18:41 No worries, @reapersan, I've got this! 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:33947 18:44 -!- Ashpool has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:45 <@reapersan> !tell Chris_ANG are the drow crowning gifts giftable? they probably could be, might be some nice variety. 18:45 Chris_ANG shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, @reapersan. 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] NonWonderDog (Sam Hum Mal Law), 245 points, T:592, killed by a gnome lord 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] captainkale (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2168 points, T:4439, killed by a rope golem 18:50 -!- Ashpool has joined #hardfought 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Lasci (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2178 19:12 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 19:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:15 la 19:16 sol la ti do 19:18 haha 19:18 sorry, was apparently trying to have hardfought ls -la a directory on my local machine.. 19:19 i sometimes confuse this window with my terminal 19:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Lasci (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3425 19:23 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 321996 points, T:35610, killed by Master Kaen, while paralyzed by a monster 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1532 19:30 [hdf-us] [spl] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Inf Fem Cha), 518 points, T:1350, killed by a dwarf 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 886 points, T:1255, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] NonWonderDog (Sam Hum Mal Law), 325 points, T:866, killed by a gnome lord 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4448 19:43 realinari ;) 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4040 points, T:5729, killed by a white unicorn 19:48 K2: i’m having (minor) issues with my ssh connection dying after a little while of inactivity, despite the server keeping the game active.. any ideas as to how to deal with this? 19:49 how long is a little while? 19:49 hard to say exactly, but between 3 and 7 minutes 19:49 ok 19:49 one sec 19:50 realinari: are you the guy on reddit who had a hangup-wish for a chest? 19:50 as of now i wait for ssh to send it’s alive messages and cancel on it’s own, then reconnect and have the server reset the game 19:50 realinari what OS are you on? 19:50 aosdict: not to my knowledge 19:50 aosdict: may have been drunk? 19:51 drunk is approved behavior 19:51 K2: mac os x 19:51 haven’t tried if it’s the same from my debian 19:51 do you have a file called 'config' under ~/.ssh ? 19:51 i do 19:51 it contains my ssh config 19:52 setting called 'ServerAliveInterval' ? 19:52 i’m on the man page at the moment, looking at exacly that 19:52 if it doesnt exist, add it 19:52 something between 120 and 180 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:21795 19:52 ok, thank you very much 19:53 lets see if that helps 19:53 on my end, dgl will autosave and disconnect a player after 1 hour of inactivity 19:53 i interpreted ServerAliveInterval only as to how long my local side would keep trying to see if the connection was alive 19:54 its supposed to send a null packet every n seconds to keep your connection active 19:54 ahhh 19:55 sounds better 19:55 thank you! 19:55 A lot of NAT and other horrors had a habit of preemptively dropping TCP connections for inactivity. 19:55 NAT is a bad word, use ssh -6 hardfought.org! 19:55 ^ that 19:55 if your isp and home router support ipv6 19:55 ipv6 will put hair on your chest. 19:56 it will mow your lawn 19:56 it'll pick your kids up after school 19:56 but what about my html dumplogs 19:56 it'll do the dishes if you're nice to it 19:56 IPV6 is a fucking horrorshow, if I ever get a TARDIS I'm going to go back, show the working committee the full horror, and suggest "IPV4, but 6 octets" 19:56 html dumplogs? hahahah silly mortal 19:56 Pinkbeast :) 19:57 K2: Ha ha only serious (modulo the causality violation) 19:57 I couldn't get a date, then ipv6 showed me how to be a real man and now I'm "busy" every night of the week. 19:57 lol 19:57 bouquet: top or bottom? 19:57 porque no los dos? 19:58 high five 19:58 Turn your IP addresses into an incomprehensible soup with this one weird old trick 19:58 1 min 15 sec 19:58 hopefully crotab does its thing correctly 19:58 crontab 20:02 jonathanhanes get out of tnnt or i'll need to sigkill you 20:03 thx 20:03 sorry about that 20:03 nah its all good 20:03 i knew there'd be at least one ;) 20:03 :P 20:04 [hdf-us] [spl] cassiopeiastar (Pri Hum NB Law) averted death, on T:2899 20:05 [hdf-us] [spl] cassiopeiastar (Pri Hum NB Law), 1852 points, T:2905, killed by a soldier ant 20:07 realinari did that help at all? the ssh config bits? 20:08 K2: well, the ssh config files are parsed correctly, and seems to work, hang on, i’ll leave it open for a while, but i trust you so much on this that i pretty much expect it to work 20:09 i even think i asked you the exact same thing 10 or so years ago.. ;) 20:09 hey can i ascend this Knight really quick k2? 20:09 realinari :) 20:09 20 mins i'm in astral.. 20:09 j/k 20:09 rebatela hahahah 20:09 the answer would have been 'no' fyi ;) 20:10 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 20:11 aosdict: what’s this about a hangup-wish for a chest? 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Lasci (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4652 points, T:4451, killed by a bugbear, while sleeping 20:22 realinari: uh I can't find it now. did you delete it >_> 20:23 hahaha, i have no idea what you are talking about, but i’m bloody curious. 20:23 might be drunk 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2823 points, T:6760, killed by an imp 20:32 Pinkbeast: why do you dislike IPv6 so much? 20:33 I find no problem with it personally. 20:33 <[Demo]1> old curmudgeon :P 20:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:35 Xaleth: It's a horrible mess of second-system effect 20:37 -!- ShivanHunter has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:37 Pinkbeast fears change 20:37 thats all it is 20:37 IPv8 when? 20:37 <[Demo]1> lol 20:37 after IPv7 20:38 i need a googol subnet all to myself 20:38 I do also fear change 20:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:38 aosdict we dont do odd numbers with IP versions 20:38 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 362 points, T:964, killed by a Kop Sergeant 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:27436 20:42 <[Demo]1> proposal to rename IP "cyber phone number" 20:43 [hdf-us] [slex] ShivanHunter (Mar Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:1245 20:45 IPvϖ 20:45 [Demo]1 IPv8675309 20:46 <[Demo]1> haha 20:46 K2: ServerAliveInterval=120 works perfectly, thanks! question is now if dgl will still see me as inactive after 1 hour? 20:47 yes 20:47 Then, I shall build my own ISP to exclusively use IPv4 and IPv6 to avoid change. 20:47 you have to do stuff in game to not be inactive 20:47 cool, perfect then 20:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:50 TNNT updated (all servers) 20:52 [hdf-us] [slex] ShivanHunter (Mar Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:2167 20:52 <@reapersan> hey demo any OP monk wishes 20:52 <[Demo]1> i mean premium heart 20:52 <@reapersan> I'm like level 9 with 3 wishes left from a dlvl 2 shop wish wand 20:52 <[Demo]1> premium heart + drunk zen boxing is fun 20:53 <@reapersan> I have prem heart, shield of res heart, cloak of unheld, helping hand, tie-dye, arkenstone right now 20:53 <[Demo]1> eh you already won 20:53 <@reapersan> in addition to flying boots (I'm a hlf monk right now) 20:53 <@reapersan> lmao 20:53 <@reapersan> probably shoudl wish for speed boots though 20:53 <@reapersan> I'll get flying soon enough anyway i think 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 536 points, T:1669, killed by a dwarf 20:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:55 <@reapersan> demo: should i try like a body armorless run 20:55 <@reapersan> and be a real monk™ 20:56 <@reapersan> I don't know how monks are affected by the dr/ac thing tho 20:56 bloody watch captain killed my horse! 20:57 <@reapersan> RIP 20:57 after 18 years of playing this game, i still care about my pets 20:59 <@FrightBox> oof i can never wait to ditch my pets 20:59 <@FrightBox> unless i have a leash or take the time to build apport and i dont have to wait forever on the stairs 20:59 <@reapersan> demo: worth wishing for =oSD right now? or just tough it out 20:59 <@reapersan> I have 2 wishes left, considering magic mapping and SD 21:00 rld: what’s up with your <@thingy> 21:01 ? 21:01 <[Demo]1> id save them and wait til i needed them 21:01 <[Demo]1> and probably never use them 21:01 <@reapersan> realnari: hey I'm not rld 21:01 <@reapersan> :p 21:01 realinari: rld is the gateway from Discord; the @thingy is the person's nom du Discord. 21:01 <@reapersan> rld is a bot that transcribes messages from discord 21:01 <@reapersan> it links to the reddit /r/[r]ogue[l]ikes [d]iscord 21:02 <@reapersan> nice to meet you realinari I'm riker :) 21:02 [hdf-us] [slex] ShivanHunter (Mar Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:3544 21:02 [hdf-us] [slex] ShivanHunter (Mar Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:3561 21:03 hi there, you’re flooding my irc with awful colours, nice to meet you! 21:03 but i appreciate the linking 21:03 <@FrightBox> nice to meet you too, sorry bout the nasty color 😃 21:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 21:04 [hdf-us] [slex] ShivanHunter (Mar Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:3726 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 252 points, T:1297, killed by a small mimic 21:05 don’t worry about it, i would probably go blind soon anyway.. 21:05 [hdf-us] [slex] ShivanHunter (Mar Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:3739 21:05 [hdf-us] [slex] ShivanHunter (Mar Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:3754 21:05 [hdf-us] [slex] ShivanHunter (Mar Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:3754 21:06 realinari: I mean, isn't Beholder also flooding your irc with awful colors? 21:06 IRC has colours? 21:08 aosdict: beholder doesn’t talk as much as these guys, also he does red blue and orange only 21:08 hmm 21:09 who runs rld? 21:09 <@FrightBox> a combination of K2, maybe Tangles, and MTF the discord admin 21:09 [hdf-us] [dyn] cheddar (aosdict) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 25 points, T:64, killed by a falling object 21:10 realinari: does ^ hve the same color as reapersan? 21:10 on my side it would look muuuuuch nicer without the <@ and the > 21:10 maybe not so much the colours, but more the mess 21:10 wow, i’m negative today ;) 21:10 <@FrightBox> rld probably includes those things because discord supports "pings" or notifications if you use that exact format 21:11 aosdict: does what? 21:11 <@FrightBox> so if you typed @FrightBox to get my attention i'd get an actual notification that someone mentioned me 21:11 I dunno about the @ but the <> also conventionally enclose bona fide IRC nicks so I see why they are there. 21:11 my dynahack death message 21:11 killed by a falling object 21:12 <@FrightBox> the @ is required for discord to actually parse it as a notification 21:12 Yes, I heard you the first time 21:12 dyn looks red to me 21:12 <@FrightBox> no pinkbeast the notification though 21:12 <@FrightBox> it needs an @ 21:13 Yes, I understood you the first time and do not require it explained repeatedly. 21:13 <@FrightBox> haha i'm messin with you now, you may calm your feathers 😃 21:13 The transition from idiocy to "only joking" is rarely convincing. 21:14 @Pinkbeast the <> are client dependent 21:14 haha, look what you made me do 21:14 realinari: Hence my use of the word "conventionally" 21:14 <@FrightBox> oof, you've always got some sharp edges, sorry about that 21:14 in what world is that conventional? 21:15 In this world. Clients don't all do it, but it is conventional, like tab completion of nicks. 21:16 really? 21:16 i’ve never used a client which does that, but seeing now how much it upsets me, there might be a reason for that.. ;) 21:18 on the plus side, a dead horse means i get my carrots for myself.. 21:18 this metaphor seems overextended 21:19 ircII does it and I think most of the daughters of ircII do it, so yes, I think it's pretty commonplace 21:19 At this point, anything two of the big three clients (irssi, weechat, mIRC) do can be considered conventional. 21:19 -!- ShivanHunter has joined #hardfought 21:19 mirc is still a big three? 21:19 And yes, it hurts me just a little bit to put mIRC on that list. 21:20 But there are, unfortunately, Windows users. 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6963 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased bag of holding", on T:28797 21:31 !who 21:31 K2: [hdf-us] vivit [nh13d] youshum555 [nh362] ninetale [nh362] iyarkonan [nh362] Athor [nh362] | [hdf-eu] inari [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a shrieker, on T:7848 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:8715 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Wizard ### Mal ###) genocided c dungeon wide on T:673 21:51 !player Xaleth 21:51 beholder doesn’t do that? 21:52 what are you looking for 21:53 just to see if he exists or not, as in if it is bones 21:53 but it is 21:53 fire ants incoming 21:53 !gamesby aosdict 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Wiz Mal), 351 points, T:1534, imp 21:54 !gamesby Xaleth 21:54 !asc Xaleth 21:54 aosdict: [hdf-us] Xaleth has not ascended in 175 games. 21:54 there 21:54 ty 21:54 right, gamesby is a rodney command 21:55 y u do dis? 21:55 no hard feelings, but i’m looting your corpse 21:55 Ah, ok. 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Pri Mal), 70 points, T:135, gnome 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23610 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:10439 22:10 -!- Chansu has quit [Quit: *poof*] 22:11 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1022 points, T:1543, killed by a giant rat 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 347 points, T:935, killed by a giant bat 22:16 oh for f sake, how deep are these mines? 22:17 <@reapersan> infinite 22:18 <@PsyMar> I believe up to 10 levels from the start 22:18 <@PsyMar> 8-10 to be more precise 22:18 <@PsyMar> start of the mines that is 22:19 <[Demo]1> in ndnh they are only 5 deep 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:10721 22:19 mines' end is 8th or 9th level of the mines 22:19 -!- Chansu has quit [] 22:19 <@PsyMar> my mistake 22:20 <@PsyMar> I remembered being on Dlvl 14 in the mines but maybe that was grue challenge in devnull, or I remembered wrong 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10733 22:20 <@PsyMar> more likely the latter 22:20 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:1781 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 823 points, T:1801, killed by a dwarf 22:21 i don’t remember the mines as this treacherous, so i’m a little concerned with what might be coming.. 22:22 the levels near mines' end can be pretty dangerous 22:22 you're going through the levels faster than in the main dungeon without levelling up as much/getting as much loot 22:23 main dungeon also has more bottlenecks you can use 22:24 realinari: are you Athor? 22:24 <@reapersan> !who 22:24 @reapersan: [hdf-us] vivit [nh13d] luxor [slshm] PaciFIST [nh362] ninetale [nh362] jonathanhanes [nh362] NonWonderDog [nh362] iyarkonan [nh362] hypnotist [nh362] Athor [nh362] bouquet [xnh] | [hdf-eu] inari [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 22:24 hm? 22:24 no inari 22:25 iyarkonan? 22:25 the real inari if you will 22:25 eu server 22:25 The *real* inari? 22:25 lol 22:25 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:25 * aosdict contemplates /nick-ing to fakeinari 22:26 aosdict: hahah 22:26 some dude took my irc nick.. 22:26 cheap plastic imitation of inari! 22:26 Inari casts a spell! Double trouble... 22:26 realinari: by the way, want to join clan TNNT? 22:27 ShivanHunter: Inari divides as you hit it! 22:27 <@fakeinari> absolutely aosdict! 22:27 <@fakeinari> :p 22:27 sounds nice! 22:27 sure thing! 22:27 don’t expect much 22:28 ok cool, invited :) 22:28 doing a lot of last-day recruiting heh 22:29 i always end up with aosdict :p 22:30 Wait, there's a tournament going on rn? 22:30 soon(tm) 22:30 realinari: The goal is third place, since we are not on the level of ootc or splat 22:31 Xaleth: Starting in less than 24 hours. I'll invite you to my clan if you want. 22:31 oh crap i gotta finish my existing game 22:31 winny: the beta test is over, it was likely wiped... 22:31 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 22:31 I presume it differs from DCSS tournaments in that no clan member can be a net negative? 22:31 aosdict: ok, good riddance :) 22:31 I'd like to join any random clan so if I do manage to ascend or make some stats, no matter how miniscule, it would be for the good of the clan I'm in. 22:31 yeah I think everyone can only add to score 22:31 At least I'm contributing to something. 22:32 Pinkbeast: Correct, there is no way you can drag down a team by being in it. 22:32 That's wonderful, considering that I die all the time! 22:32 Xaleth: OK, invited - accept at https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clanmgmt/ 22:32 To be fair I could be wrong about DCSS tournaments, I've not checked in detail (maybe only that size is limited so there's an opportunity cost to taking a dur-brain like me) 22:33 Pinkbeast: when's the DCSS tournament? 22:33 winny: With each new release. 22:33 oh :) 22:34 Ok I'm in the clan, now what? 22:34 Yeah, I'm unsure of what's better, limiting clan size so one can't just get huge and steamroller everyone else, or preserving the property that no member can hurt a clan by being in it. 22:34 Theres a 0.23-a0 so soon-ish? 22:34 Xaleth: When the tournament begins, just play in it. 22:34 That will be in 21.5 hours. 22:34 aosdict: I guess you could compromise by limiting clan score to the top n players so a simple Mongolian Horde approach has limited use 22:35 i want to get an extra raspberry pi and monitor to show a tournament timer and high scores 24/7 lol 22:35 winny: I've got a cute tiny LCD readout for my pi which might be less space-consuming 22:35 i should get one of those 22:37 There are about six flavours but they mostly all use the same HAT pins 22:37 <[Demo]1> tournament timer should just be integrated into your tmux bar 22:37 oh, touche 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1112 points, T:1273, killed by a rothe 22:38 Yet another death. 22:38 hmmm, tinning giants doesn’t work anymore.. 22:38 what use is a tinning kit then? 22:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2347 points, T:3547, killed by a bolt of lightning 22:38 realinari: It doesn;t? 22:39 i just ate two stone giant tins and nothing happened.. 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] PaciFIST (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:28894 22:39 and earlier a hill giant corpse gave me dexterity??? 22:39 realinari: Sure you're not already at maximum strength for your species, or wearing an item that masks it, or... what variant are you in? 22:40 realinari: it works 50% of the time, you're just unlucky. 22:40 vanilla 22:40 the dex increase... are you sure that wasn't exercise timing out on the same turn you ate the corpse? 22:40 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 22:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 22:40 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40 They can't give Dex in vanilla 22:40 no i am not 22:40 cause giants have never increased dex 22:41 i did mention i was confused.. 22:45 i’ve got bigger problems than being unlucky, gnome with a wand of sleep somewhere.. 22:47 what’s the chances of polymorphing a gnome into something without hands? ;) 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11922 22:50 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Pri Mal), 8004 points, T:6509, dragon 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2644 points, T:2307, killed by a rothe 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh13d] vivit (Sam Mal), 100 points, T:93, leprechaun 22:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] NonWonderDog (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2094 points, T:2558, killed by a mumak 22:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:26123 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2056 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:12647 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4117 23:08 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Ran Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "the blessed greased fixed platinum yendorian express card", on T:27265 23:13 !goat the rng 23:13 jonathanhanes's goat runs up and kicks the rng in the arse! Baaaaaa! 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a quantum mechanic, on T:3360 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3568 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4432 23:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:28465 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5787 points, T:4496, killed by a gargoyle 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 38 points, T:75, killed by a jackal 23:26 I think I'm going to take a break for a while... 23:26 !asc Xaleth 23:26 Xaleth: [hdf-us] Xaleth has not ascended in 182 games. 23:26 yep 23:27 I dunno how you're splatting so many dwarven valks 23:27 Me neither. 23:28 I mean, a jackal? What happened there? 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] Lasci (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3323 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:34184 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] ninetale (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34185 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 84370 points, T:14144, killed by a xorn 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1308 23:36 Pinkbeast: foul play, I guess. 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Val Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1971 23:36 BTW, I have a question: to obtain Mjollnir, do you have to be neutral *and* valk, or just valk alone? 23:37 just valk 23:37 same with other 'first boon' arts -- e.g., you still get magicbane as a chaotic wiz 23:37 Ok. 23:38 That means I can have Excalibur dual-wielded with Mjollnir. 23:38 no 23:38 I'm confused then. 23:38 you can't dual-wield artifacts 23:38 Ok. 23:38 (in vanilla) 23:38 Excalibur is better, though, go lawful and dip for it every time, if you're just trying to win. 23:39 I've been searching everywhere, but I can't find a downstairs. What should I do? 23:39 wait nvm I'm stupid it was under a statue 23:39 <@Athor> #terrain can be useful for that 23:40 ooooooh, niiiice! 23:40 or a patch where stairs under an object have a red bg 23:40 that is _brilliant_ 23:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:30554 23:42 yeah, i’ve been missing that patch up until now, but this #terrain command is far superiour! 23:42 that patch is in nh343-nao 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:8567 23:43 got it! 23:47 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2259 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1383 points, T:2616, killed by a hill orc called Haiogothu of Baneaihai 23:53 I'm going to resume playing tomorrow, I just can't continue any further. 23:53 -!- Xaleth has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Elronnd (Val Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4405