00:15 oh, there's one on nethackwiki, lol 00:16 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 00:19 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 16247 points, T:184, killed by a water demon's wand 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5074 00:23 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:23 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:5096 00:24 -!- attie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 so say, entirely hypothetically, someone put a bag of holding containing 9 wands of wishing into the swap chest... 00:28 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] PaciFIST (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:31987 00:49 ShivanHunter: in FIQHack or Fourk? 00:49 tnnt 00:49 the Luggage 00:50 unless it's in some other variants as well 00:50 Is that one the tnnt special things? 00:50 yeah 00:50 no idea! 00:50 there's one sure way to find out, though. 00:53 I can't find any info about "Luggage" on the tnnt page. Are they keeping all that stuff secret until it's discovered? 00:58 !moon 00:59 the luggage and there's a floor with the devteam as monsters 00:59 !pm 00:59 !pom 00:59 bouquet: The moon is full for 1 more day. 01:00 must be lucky. Found GoP, Speedboots, and 3 magic laps by lvl5 this game. 01:00 plus a magic marker and made out with a hot nymph. 01:01 she took my slime mold. 01:37 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:55 -!- APic has quit [*.net *.split] 01:55 -!- emerson has quit [*.net *.split] 01:55 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [*.net *.split] 02:03 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 02:52 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] tilia (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 352 points, T:1120, killed by a small mimic 04:49 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:49 -!- wolfechu has joined #hardfought 04:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 122 points, T:413, killed by a boulder 05:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:16 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 05:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] Wolfechu (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2370 points, T:1570, killed by a watch captain 05:22 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 05:23 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:32 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:34 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 05:34 -!- wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:35 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 05:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 05:37 -!- lorimer has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 05:39 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 05:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 06:10 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 06:10 -!- uniusz has quit [Quit: uniusz] 06:19 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 06:19 hello friends o/ 06:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:49 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:05 !who 07:05 uniusz: [hdf-us] rebatela [tnnt] | [hdf-eu] HalNovek [tnnt] Raisse [tnnt] | [hdf-au] No current players 07:05 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 07:14 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 07:17 -!- nooodle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:17 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:30 I think it's illogical that a drum of earthquake causes not just pits, but pits with iron spikes! 07:30 hello raisse o/ :) 07:31 tournamet starts ? 07:31 Nov 1 07:31 that's next Thursday 07:36 in tnnt menu 07:36 i see 26.10 07:36 today 07:36 oh, its server time, sorry ^^ 07:43 drum of earthqauke is one of those items i've never used 07:43 i'm probably missing out on something. destroy altars? 07:43 make pits with iron spikes? 07:51 if i put ring of regeneration then when my regeneration is increased this also increase amount of turns ? 07:54 ok its not, nvm then 07:58 It doesn't make more turns, but you get hungrier much faster per turn 07:58 oh 07:58 (so you dn't want to wear all the time) 07:58 kk 07:59 thanks for info 07:59 every other turn it decreases your nutrition 08:03 raisse: those iron spikes are just the jagged remains of the girders holding up the dungeon floor 08:08 <@Tone> rebatela: I've mostly used drums of earthquake for waking up Rodney and the rogue quest nemesis 08:08 <@Tone> I'll probably add Vlad to that list with his 361 movement tweaks 08:09 <@Tone> It's also nice to just use all the charges so you can just use it as a leather drum 08:09 <@Tone> There are probably more clever, actual uses for it out there though 😄 08:10 ShivanHunter: [backscroll] The swap chest won't accept non-empty containers. 08:13 will it accept empty containers though? 08:13 (good destination for surplus bags of holding) 08:14 I believe it will 08:14 I haven't been in the vicinity of a swap chest with containers I didn't need, so never tried 08:14 see this is why I wish they had let me write up a description of the swap chest behavior, so these questions wouldn't keep popping up 08:15 -!- emerson has joined #hardfought 08:15 somewhere tucked away in the wiki so people who want to find out without spoilers can still do that 08:18 aosdict go for it 08:18 we discussed adding a help bit in the in-game help right? 08:19 Yes, if someone else wants to write that and give me more time to focus on the actual code I need to write, I'd appreciate it. 08:19 ok 08:19 done 08:20 that was fast. 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 11312 points, T:11251, killed by a leocrotta 08:37 what is better: cloak of displacement or magic resistance ? 08:37 MR. 08:39 later game, it will allow you to wear a SDSM; early game, MR is likely to save you from death. displacement may be better in the very early game to protect against monster melee 08:41 <[Demo]1> displacement if u have mr from another reliable source already 08:42 <[Demo]1> which in vanilla means quest arti wish or shield of reflection 08:50 -!- uniusz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:50 is a quest artiwish reliable? I just had my priest's Sceptre of Might stolen by the quest nemesis, I think. 08:50 i seem to recall covetous monsters now grab any quest arti, or something? 08:51 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 08:54 so for early game displacement is better ? 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3882 08:56 only if you're having trouble with melee monsters 08:56 <[Demo]1> they changed it in 3.6.x? 08:56 hey, i had read that stronger monster will appear when i gain higher lvl, but im still lvl1 but dlvl5 and stronger monster alleared 08:57 so also when im low lvl but higher dlvl stronger monsters will appear 08:57 ... 08:57 [Demo]1: nothing changed with this in 3.6.x except the magic cancellation of various cloaks 08:57 <[Demo]1> uh yeah 08:58 <[Demo]1> you need to wear some quest artis for mr instead of just carry 08:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:58 found gaundlets of power nice 08:58 <[Demo]1> but will rodney steal the sceptre of might from a monk? 08:58 ill do some noise now ! 08:58 [Demo]1: Oh I thought you were referring to the displacement thing 08:58 dobra 6h minelo 08:59 sorry, not that chat ^ 08:59 and yes, rodney now steals any quest artifacts 08:59 nemeses doing the same is new to me though 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1815 points, T:4844, killed by a homunculus 09:03 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:43 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 09:53 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14989 10:11 <@reapersan> !tell Chris_ANG simurgh doesn't reveal trap doors that you escape 10:11 Chris_ANG shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, @reapersan. 10:17 <@Tone> Yeah I thought it was just Rodney 10:18 <@Tone> oh sounds like Muad confirmed otherwise 10:20 <@Tone> but yes in general you want a non-quest artifact source of MR or there's a chance you'll run into some trouble with Rodney 10:21 <[Demo]1> combine flaming sphere and a troll 10:22 <[Demo]1> epi: give Medusa stone resistance and make her a rider 10:24 <[Demo]1> is there any way to send the Oracle to a different dungeon level in vanilla? 10:25 <[Demo]1> can you like teleport her onto a level teleporter or something? 10:25 She won't teleport onto a trap. 10:25 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 10:25 <[Demo]1> right 10:26 <[Demo]1> unless the level is filled with holes? 10:26 <[Demo]1> then maybe? 10:26 uh I dunno 10:27 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1650 points, T:1622, killed by a wolf 10:27 <[Demo]1> if you had to have the Oracle on the Oracle level to win the game would it be best to have her have the stalk flag or not? 10:32 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 10:33 -!- nooodle_ has joined #hardfought 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 142 points, T:613, killed by a wand 10:51 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:14699 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 747 points, T:1200, killed by a gnome lord 11:14 -!- Ixoth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:15 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Ran Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class n), on T:246 11:22 -!- Ixoth has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 11:22 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1039 points, T:1385, killed by a human mummy 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7508 11:28 -!- Ixoth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:29 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 12:07 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 12:10 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 2107 points, T:3748, quit 12:29 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 183 points, T:305, killed by a gnomish wizard 12:38 !who 12:38 uniusz: [hdf-us] Luxidream [tnnt] Xaleth [nh362] | [hdf-eu] oh6 [tnnt] spontiff [nh362] uniusz [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 575 points, T:431, killed by a small mimic 12:40 -!- LanternTrickya has joined #hardfought 12:46 -!- Ixoth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:57 its good for wizard to take poisoned arrows and throw them ? 13:03 <@FrightBox> Probably not uniusz but I haven't ever actually looked into it 13:04 <@FrightBox> Scratch that you can throw them and they'll work as expected 13:04 <@Tone> You will probably have trouble hitting things though 13:04 <@FrightBox> Not sure if it's a good idea still probably throw things more properly instead 13:05 <@FrightBox> Get an aklys and such 13:05 <@Tone> ^ 13:05 <@Tone> I will always support the use of aklys 13:05 <@FrightBox> That's why we call you Toneklys when you aren't around 13:06 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:07 <@Tone> I just saw some guy on reddit with a tame mmf who wouldn't swap its aklys out for an enchanted two-handed sword. 13:07 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:08 <@Tone> Smart mind flayer 13:09 <@FrightBox> Haha tone I wanna see you ascend a caveman with an aklys, go full method actor on it 13:09 <@FrightBox> Can they twoweapon aklys? 13:11 and again... 13:11 xd 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 5493 points, T:3509, killed by a hill orc 13:11 <@Tone> It would be hard to pass up the scepter of might for an aklys 13:11 <@Tone> ...but I wouldn't fault you for it 13:12 i just start with scroll of genocide 13:12 what should i genocide ? 13:12 <@FrightBox> Haha that's why I wanna see YOU do it. Club death into submission 13:12 <@FrightBox> Hold it for an emergency and bless it later uniusz 13:12 <@Tone> Save it until you need it uniusz 13:13 <@Tone> I'll do that sometime 13:13 <@FrightBox> When blessed do L or h like everyone else unless you're a dwarf 13:13 <@Tone> And no they can't two weapon unfortunately 13:13 <@Tone> I wonder if there are any aklys related tnnt achievements 13:13 FrightBox its just uncursed 13:13 <@FrightBox> Missed chance if not haha 13:13 what ? 13:13 <@FrightBox> Yeah bless later with holy water 13:14 so what should i genocide at start if its uncursed 13:14 ok 13:14 i hae water 13:14 ill wait for altar 13:14 <@FrightBox> Nothing at start 13:14 and then genocide L 13:14 or h 13:14 L is liches 13:14 <@FrightBox> Wait to you get in a bad spot and genocide whatever is about to kill you 13:14 its good to genocide this ? 13:14 maybe i should genocide ants ? 13:14 they are strong 13:15 <@Tone> Not a bad choice 13:15 <@FrightBox> L is a great choice, ants are also a good early choice but only if you need it 13:15 <@Tone> Well, I say that assuming they have given you trouble before 13:16 FrightBox what is L > 13:16 ? 13:16 <@FrightBox> All liches 13:16 <@FrightBox> Scary scary casters 13:16 liches = spooky scary skeletons 13:16 i never seen liches in my games 13:16 <@spookidream> you don't want to 13:16 <@FrightBox> I hope you never do ;) 13:17 <@spookidream> aosdict: but there are actual skeletons in nethack 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16456 13:17 <@spookidream> these are magic skeletons 13:17 still, they're skeletons. 13:18 I heard via Chris_ANG recently that demiliches are liches that are just skulls. Makes you wonder what master and arch liches are (since unlike liches and demiliches they aren't in D&D). 13:19 <@FrightBox> I would assume like liches but better 13:19 <@FrightBox> Faster stronger bonier 13:19 <@spookidream> they're the same as regular liches except purple 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1406 points, T:2352, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:20 If a demilich is a lich whose power grows so great that they have no further need for their skeletal body, master liches would be that but even more so 13:20 <@spookidream> their bones are purple 13:21 <@Tone> If a demi lich is a skull, an arch lich is probably just a tooth or something 13:22 a master lich would be just the tooth. an arch lich would be totally bodiless, maybe 13:24 <@Tone> This is true 13:24 of course, nethack doesn't actually behave like this, so... 13:25 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 13:25 <@Tone> or perhaps a filling if the lich had poor dental hygeine 13:25 pfft 13:25 vast arcane power, still can't fix dental problems 13:26 <@spookidream> YANI: allow players to jump over sharks 13:27 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 13:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Sam Hum Mal Law), 179 points, T:250, killed by a coyote 13:34 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:34 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Client Quit] 13:35 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:36 <@FrightBox> *on a motorcycle lux 13:37 -!- Ixoth has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 13:37 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 13:38 <@spookidream> oh damn 13:38 <@spookidream> !tell LanternTrickya add motorcycles so we can jump over sharks on motorcycles in slex 13:38 LanternTrickya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, @spookidream. 13:39 <@Tone> Does slex have lava sharks? 13:39 splice has landsharks 13:39 <@FrightBox> Add those too for sure 13:40 <@spookidream> !tell AntiGulp can we allow players to jump over landsharks 13:40 No worries, @spookidream, I've got this! 13:40 <@spookidream> ok done 13:40 <@Tone> !tell LanternTrickya Also lava sharks and sunglasses for extra cool factor please 13:40 I'm on it, @Tone. 13:41 <@spookidream> I think there are already sunglasses in slex 13:41 <@Tone> I assumed both of those probably still exist actually 13:45 <@FrightBox> Yeah but does the extended description for sharks say that they're wearing sunglasses? I think that's the point we really getting to here 13:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:46 -!- Ixoth has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 137 points, T:204, killed by a gnome 13:48 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 153 points, T:442, killed by a jackal 13:57 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a yellow light, on T:16381 13:59 that feeling when you kill 4 gray dragons and all you get is a tin opener. >_< 13:59 Go Team Improved Tin Openers! 14:00 what's improved about them? 14:01 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:03 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 14:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:08 <@Tone> I think you don't have to wield them first or something? 14:08 <@Tone> Not sure because I still do out of habit 14:09 nooodle: was my junethack clan 14:10 <@Tone> oh I figured nooodle knew that already 😄 14:11 I mean, it was the name of a malcolm ryan patch, so it must have improved something 14:12 <@Tone> Soon people will be wondering who ordered all this cockatrice 14:13 I'll eat my order of the cockatrice (tins) with my improved tin opener 14:13 <[Demo]1> insane time opener 14:13 <[Demo]1> tin 14:13 <@Tone> :D 14:18 darts are a better bet 14:18 aaand replying to old scrollback, whee 14:18 I can't eat stuff with darts! 14:19 -!- uniusz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:20 hmm, you can't? 14:20 what if they're lawn darts 14:23 um 14:23 are nethack darts 'play darts at the bar' darts or are they lawn darts 14:23 * K2 hopes that they're lawn darts 14:24 <[Demo]1> they are pretty light 14:24 we used to play lawn darts at my grammies house when i was a kid 14:24 i used to get in trouble because i'd try to hit my sister with them 14:25 -!- Ixoth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:25 oh man it looks like you cant buy real lawn darts anymore 14:26 this is what we used to play with - https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/614p1t8KnYL.jpg 14:26 if you search online for em now, its these wimpy plastic flat things 14:27 we never had those in Finland, I think, just regular darts 14:27 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 14:27 yeah a real lawn dart is at least a foot long 14:28 0.3m for our non US friends here 14:28 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:28 My grandfather used to have "jarts" at his house, that we played with sometimes when we visited. 14:28 I think they were ten or fifteen inches long, yeah. 14:29 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 14:30 they were awesome 14:30 you could really get hurt if one hit you 14:31 then why did you throw them at your sister 14:31 you really have to ask? lol 14:33 do you have any brothers or sisters aosdict? 14:33 me and my sis used to fight like cats and dogs 14:33 she's 3 yrs older than me, so she had the size advantage for a long time 14:33 so yeah... lawn darts ;) 14:34 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:35 also have an older cousin (male), as kids we'd have roman candle fights 14:35 K2: We, umm, all stood together and threw toward targets that were on the other end of the yard. 14:35 Probably because we had adult supervision. 14:35 :D 14:35 So nobody ever got hit, in our case. 14:35 well i never actually hit her with a lawn dart 14:35 just tried is all 14:35 and she's throw them back 14:36 and then all hell would break lose 14:36 i dont recommend roman candle fighting by the way, no matter how fun it is (and its a lot of fun) 14:38 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:40 The one time my parents left the three of us home alone all day, we converted an empty half-gallon orange juice jug, an empty gallon milk jug, and I think an empty shampoo bottle or dish detergent bottle or something, into like-squirt-guns-but-bigger-and-better. 14:40 hah there's shop in england that makes and sells traditional alwn darts 14:41 they ship to the us and canada 14:41 *lawn 14:41 (This was the eighties; all commercially avaible squirt guns fit in the palm of your hand.) 14:41 jonadab hah nice 14:41 I mean, we only used them outside. 14:41 So we basically just got our clothes wet. 14:42 But it was fun. 14:42 were you a kid in the 70's at all? 14:42 Yes, but I don't remember very much of it. I was born in December of '74. 14:43 old enough 14:43 you remember the metal shogun warrior action figures? about 6-8" tall 14:43 The eighties I remember. The seventies mostly no. 14:43 their hands could shoot 14:43 like really far 14:43 "shogun warrior" -- that sounds like a Japanese thing that Americans would not have known about until at least the mid nineties. 14:44 no way 14:44 -!- hf_guest_16546 has joined #hardfought 14:44 we grew up watching godzilla 14:44 ... 14:44 Godzilla was old black and white stuff my parents watched maybe when THEY were kids? 14:44 I did see King Kong once as a kid. 14:44 i had a godzilla action figure that was at least 14" tall, it could shoot one claw and its tongue was fire 14:45 mid 70's 14:45 But the closest we got to anime was Voltron. 14:45 And nobody knew that was Japanese-influenced. 14:45 huh 14:45 Karate was big, but everyone I knew assumed that was Chinese. 14:46 I HAD THIS - https://www.etsy.com/listing/594333904/24-1970s-jumbo-machinder-great-mazinger 14:46 At least until the Karate Kid came out; I think Miyagi mentions Okinawa, which people old enough to remember WWII would've known was Japanese. 14:47 or a smaller version of that 14:47 japan here 14:47 okinawa here 14:47 doesn't he say "china here" too ? 14:48 ok i definitely had a couple of these - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Shogun-Warriors-MAZINGA-5-Die-Cast-Metal-Figure-Japan-Mattel-/372481251500 14:48 they were so bad ass 14:48 virtually indestructible 14:48 I don't remember seeing anything like that until after the Pokemon Saturday Morning Cartoon craze started the mass importation of Japanese culture. 14:48 would lose the fists all the time tho hah 14:49 Unless you count Transformers, but that's different really. 14:49 yeah 14:49 i never got into transformers 14:49 I had some of the off-brand ones. 14:49 i wish i had taken care of and kept all my star wars figures 14:50 My aunt had a couple of the Star Wars figures. 14:50 i had a friend who had the millenium falcon 14:50 that fucker 14:50 envy of all the boys in class 14:50 I had a bunch of M.A.S.K. 14:51 coolest thing i had from star wars was an xwing fighter 14:51 And a ton of (monstly secondhand) legos, a bunch of lincoln logs, a fair amount of construx... 14:51 lincoln logs! 14:51 Oh, and a couple of erector sets, but I couldn't actually use those. Didn't have the manual dexterity to get the nuts tight enough that the pieces wouldn't just flop all over. 14:51 ever play with an erector set? 14:52 lol 14:52 jinx 14:52 When my mom was a kid, she had tinker toys. They were still at gramdma and grandpa's house; we played with them occasionally when we visited. 14:52 ah yeah i rememebr those too 14:53 i played with legos most of all 14:53 could just build my own toys that i wanted 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 533 points, T:795, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:53 Oh, and I had a gob of Capsella. 14:53 not familiar with those 14:53 Capsella was a construction set that featured motors and gears, inside of the capsules. 14:53 neat 14:54 Yeah, it was cool. 14:54 I had a bunch of it. 14:55 Since fire traps can exist underwater, is there any reason there aren't other underwater traps, such as polymorph traps underwater? I mean, that would be horrifying, but is there a reason it doesn't exist? 14:55 dammit... meeting. brb 14:57 yani: polymorph traps underwater 14:59 nooodle: nothing *prevents* the struct trap from coexisting with a WATER space, but I expect that no generation code actually allows this. 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 152 points, T:293, killed by a dwarf 15:01 think of all the hilarious new deaths there would be 15:02 <@Tone> EPI: Put lots of sinks under water tiles 15:02 looool omg 15:02 -!- LanternTrickya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:02 the fire traps on ice are already pretty damn evil, it's not like nethack is afraid to do evil things 15:03 EPI: fire traps on ice may melt the ice for up to 2 tiles from the trap 15:04 -!- Ixoth has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:04 you people are mean haha 15:05 another evil thing that already exists is how, if you step on a teleport trap while having magical breathing, it can teleport you underwater, destroying and rusting your items 15:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:07 @Tone That actually wouldn't work, because sinks are terrain like water is, and those can't coexist. Only one terrain type per space. 15:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 854 points, T:2297, killed by a hill orc 15:16 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:17 So a sink can have a trap on it ... 15:18 -!- lorimer has quit [Quit: splut.] 15:18 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 15:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 15:21 <@Tone> aosdict: yeah I figured it wasn't possible currently 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:65 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 583 points, T:1424, killed by a gecko 15:27 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:30 wtf? when I press 'i' for inventory I get one page, with (end) at the end, but that's not my whole inventory, the tools aren't there 15:30 though I know I have a horn, and I can see it with I( 15:31 everything that shows an inventory (like drop with D) gets only the one page 15:31 so what doesn't fit on that page is invisible 15:31 space doesn't give the next page but makes it disappear 15:33 -!- hf_guest_16546 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 15:33 -!- hf_guest_16546 has joined #hardfought 15:36 huh, now it's normal again 15:37 what could have caused that? 15:37 I didn't change any settings 15:37 <@FrightBox> terminal resizing? 15:38 <@FrightBox> could've caused some weird buffering to display that was chopping some items off visually even though they were there in the buffer 15:38 no, didn't do that either 15:38 the w menu shows your screen size as 80x42 15:38 and it said (end) at the end of the list even though it wasn't the end of the list 15:38 actually watching, it's 80x24 15:38 ah yes, I started out with that 15:39 but made it 80x24 before starting the game 15:39 that explains that it thought it was showing the whole list, but not that I had (end) at the end of the page 15:43 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Car Hum NB Law), 834 points, T:1264, killed by a bolt of fire 15:48 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 15:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 561 points, T:858, killed by a werejackal 16:03 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 16:07 [hdf-us] [4k] moll (zor) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:437 16:24 [hdf-us] [4k] moll (zor) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:1303 16:26 [hdf-us] [4k] moll (zor) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 15831 points, T:1324, killed by a vampire lord 16:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:52 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7473 17:19 [hdf-us] [4k] ololo (zor) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 10275 points, T:3612, killed by a gnome king 17:29 TNNT updated (all servers) 17:32 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 17:33 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 17:37 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:38 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 17:38 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 17:42 -!- hf_guest_16546 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 713 points, T:1073, killed by a rothe 17:51 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has joined #hardfought 17:51 pretty sure that every single time i've played a gnome I've committed cannibalism by accident 17:52 Same here. 17:52 i only do it when I'm a dwarf 17:52 really wish there were a prompt confirming you want to commit cannibalism 17:56 [hdf-us] [slex] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 13219 points, T:1601, poisoned by a gray warp patch 17:57 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:58 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Ang NB Law), 1199 points, T:1515, killed by a dwarf 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13539 18:01 if i ever make a roguelike it's not just going to have an RC file, it's going to have a fully scriptable interface with plugins... everything like menucolors, or automatic stopping on a certain message, and much more, should be able to be done with plugins 18:01 and every action you take should be able to have a confirmation dialog 18:02 in other words, kinda like what interhack did/does, except the core game should make that script's job easy for it 18:03 <[Demo]1> good lord 18:03 <[Demo]1> if i ever make a roguelike its gonna have no rc file and the only way to edit options is with ed 18:04 "good lord" is what i'd say for the current system, where in order for me to figure out whether a cursed item should be highlighted, I have to match its *text* without any semantic information about the item 18:04 making it incredibly complicated to do simple things 18:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 4 points, T:96, killed by a fox 18:05 <[Demo]1> be evil 18:07 in about half my games i walk directly into water 18:08 :( 18:08 regex can do everything 18:08 except parse HTML of course 18:19 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:20 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10935 18:29 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 18:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 18:36 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:36 <@reapersan> chris you here 18:37 -!- reapersan has joined #hardfought 18:37 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:39 -!- reapersan has quit [Client Quit] 18:40 <@reapersan> Chris_ANG why does the PR from nero indicate that OPROP_ACIDW is "sparkling" ala "sparkling potions"? since when is lethe water acidic? 18:45 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 18:47 -!- NCommander has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Rog Mer Mal Cha), 433 points, T:419, killed by a giant bat 18:50 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 19:07 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1801 points, T:1551, killed by a contaminated potion 19:11 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 19:12 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 19:15 -!- Elronnd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:22 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 19:22 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Car Gno Fem Neu), 930 points, T:1064, killed by a watchman 19:23 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 19:45 [hdf-us] [4k] ghor (zor) (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2666 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 831 points, T:2175, killed by a pony 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (elf), on T:13 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3 points, T:13, killed by a scroll of genocide 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 458 points, T:1517, poisoned by a rotted green mold corpse 19:54 <@Tone> Going to continue a promising gametime speedrun attempt on stream, link here: https://www.twitch.tv/tonelive 19:54 <@Tone> Just under 2k turns and headed to the castle 19:58 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 19:58 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 19:59 -!- realinari has quit [Client Quit] 20:00 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 295 points, T:1068, killed by a black pudding 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 398 points, T:1059, killed by an iron piercer 20:10 [hdf-us] [4k] ghor (zor) (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:4565 20:10 [hdf-us] [4k] ghor (zor) (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 17253 points, T:4570, killed by a force bolt 20:17 <@reapersan> !tell Chris_ANG why does the PR from nero indicate that OPROP_ACIDW is "sparkling" ala "sparkling potions"? since when is lethe water acidic? 20:17 Chris_ANG shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, @reapersan. 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 740 points, T:1486, killed by a kitten 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered Carson the Cat, his faithful kitten, on T:4 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:14, killed by a jackal, while reading a book 20:19 <@reapersan> avenging his death, I see 20:30 "You hear the roaring of a confused bear!" 20:31 I'm having a hard time imagining what that actually sounds like 20:31 <@reapersan> it sounds like a normal bear probably 20:31 the same as any bear roar yeah 20:33 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a gnomish wizard corpse on an altar of Anhur, on T:3439 21:06 Man, some of these soko levels are really miserable ,_, 21:06 the bears at the zoo just lay around all day and never make a sound. The ones that come down from the mountains have their mouths full of trash and can't make any noise. 21:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 24178 points, T:7265, killed by a water elemental 21:12 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Kni Hum Mal Law), 16 points, T:105, killed by a water demon 21:17 > Raising your marble wand high above your head, you break it in two! 21:17 > But nothing else happens... 21:17 Why doesn't my discoveries list contain a marble wand :thinking: 21:18 because you didn't identify it or type-name it? 21:20 aosdict: But now I know it's a wand of nothing, and would like to type-name it, what do? 21:20 The message "But nothing else happens..." is not unique to wands of nothing. 21:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Pri Dop Fem Neu), 391 points, T:959, killed by a werejackal 21:21 And nethack's discoveries list doesn't track every item appearance you've ever seen and not type-named, perhaps that could be a YANI 21:21 Yeah, but I narrowed it down to secret door detection vs nothing and broke it to find out 21:21 <@reapersan> it's for anything cancelled, yes? 21:22 It had no engrave message and didn't have a direction 21:22 And SDD has a blast 21:22 not if it's out of charges 21:23 Can wands generate with only one charge? 21:23 anyway, the proper thing to do would have been to name it "sdd/nothing" before breaking it 21:23 <@reapersan> don't they gen with rnd(12)? 21:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Pri Dop Fem Neu), 148 points, T:446, killed by a jackal 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2881 points, T:4371, killed by a giant mimic 21:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6579 21:35 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35 Got sokoref, time to go kill shopkeepers 21:36 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 21:36 Whats a sokoref? 21:36 Sokoban Reflection Amulet 21:37 yay noims 21:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2521 points, T:1736, killed by a dwarf 21:50 Why does the dog and stairs down have different colors to my local vanilla nethack (3.6.1)> 21:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Pri Dop Fem Neu), 724 points, T:1130, killed by an iguana 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] phinxy (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 599 points, T:2044, killed by a giant ant 21:55 phinxy: you're playing 3.6.2-hdf which has some customizations. though the dog shouldn't be different... 22:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:9852 22:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 19826 points, T:9914, killed by Izchak; the shopkeeper, while sleeping off a magical draught 22:05 Mistakes were made 22:06 poor izchak 22:10 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3580 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8156 points, T:3580, killed by a pony, while praying 22:26 <[Demo]1> aosdict, do your temple priests walk on grass in their temple? 22:26 [Demo]1: ...no? Temples don't have grass 22:26 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 22:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 22:27 <[Demo]1> didnt know if youd gotten creative with like some buddhist tier shit with monks idk 22:29 I mean, the Monk home level has plenty of grass. 22:29 but none of it is a temple, so. 22:30 <[Demo]1> ok 22:31 And the part of it that's a building isn't grassy, of course. 22:31 you've seen the level designs right? 22:32 <[Demo]1> yeah i keep that page open waiting for new ones but like i dont look and think 22:40 YANI: When a room randomly generates a sink, it tries very hard to place the sink next to the door. 22:40 s/the door/a wall. 22:43 <[Demo]1> lol ndnh mystic has tobiume but its ur fists 23:03 <@reapersan> like without an arti weapon? 23:05 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Pri Dop Fem Neu), 350 points, T:389, killed by a coyote 23:08 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Pri Dop Fem Neu), 240 points, T:672, killed by Mr. Boyabai, the shopkeeper 23:11 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Pri Dop Fem Neu), 151 points, T:324, killed by a gecko 23:12 <[Demo]1> without any weapon 23:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 68 points, T:79, killed by touching Serpent's Tongue 23:14 reapersan: the "sparkling" part of wishing is for the magic-damage weapon property 23:15 <[Demo]1> actually just pushed changes if u wanna check it out riker, it's only a very bit buggy 23:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 434 points, T:1423, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted little dog 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:4826 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4828 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:4837 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:4840 23:40 -!- ShivanHunter has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] youshum555 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:4899 23:44 -!- ShivanHunter has joined #hardfought 23:51 -!- Vivvy has joined #hardfought 23:52 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Val Dop Fem Neu), 3822 points, T:2006, killed by a baby silver dragon