00:05 Does reading a cursed spellbook make you permanently blind? 00:05 I'm currently blind from reading a spellbook. 00:05 Is it permanent? 00:08 No apparently not. 00:10 Nothing makes you permanently blind except turning it on in your config file before the start of the game. 00:11 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:11 Got that. 00:12 @FrightBox I read the "Cheating" article in NetHack wiki. 00:12 I will not use beholder for this. 00:13 <@FrightBox> haha i'm just playin i use it every time i get mines end where the luckstone isn't certain 😉 00:19 It's arguably not cheating since the livelog happens whether you want it to or not. 00:20 I guess you could hide the channel while you're picking up gray stones in mines' end 00:21 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:22 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:26 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 00:26 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:27 I'm not sure the gray stone I have in my inventory is a luckstone. 00:27 I looked everywhere in Mine's End and this is the only gray stone I found. 00:27 I rubbed a dagger on this and it left scratch marks on it. 00:29 <@FrightBox> which mines end level did you get? 00:29 <@FrightBox> if it's mimic of the mines, they hiding spots are tricky 00:29 <@FrightBox> scratch marks means that it could be anything but a touch stone 00:29 <@FrightBox> and probably not a load stone if you aren't immediately super encumbered 00:29 Hm... 00:30 <@FrightBox> price ID can help too 00:30 Oh yeah! 00:30 <@FrightBox> if it's not a touch stone and not a load stone, then price id should tell you if it's a luck stone 00:30 Going to Minetown... 00:30 <@FrightBox> spoiler alert flint (the last option) is worthless 😉 00:30 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 00:31 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:31 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:33 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 00:33 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6951 00:35 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:35 <@FrightBox> you found it 😉 00:36 <@FrightBox> NewbProgrammer10 ^ 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 16523 points, T:6968, killed by an air elemental 00:36 <@FrightBox> oh dead 😦 00:36 <@FrightBox> rough spawn 00:36 Right after I picked up the stone. 00:36 "You die..." sounds different to me now. 00:42 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:42 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:49 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:49 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:56 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:56 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2344 points, T:2950, killed by a housecat 01:03 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 01:27 <@FrightBox> for much later game is it worth keeping magicbane at low enchant? or just beef it up? 01:31 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 01:37 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Sakusen (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 276 points, T:667, killed by Ms. Narodnaja; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 01:42 @FrightBox I used to keep it at +2, but of late I max out the enchantment 01:43 <@FrightBox> yeah i'm starting to think just a bit more damage is gonna be better than the effect here or there 01:43 <@FrightBox> by now i'm starting to get tons of spells anyways 01:48 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 01:49 Magicbane should not typically be your first choice for doing melee damage anyway 01:49 it'll do the job if need be 01:51 <@FrightBox> oh man it's wreckin hard enough so far, haha 01:52 <@FrightBox> i got magic missile now so i suppose i'll rock that 01:53 <@Tone> Your first choice of doing melee damage should be an aklys, of course 😄 01:53 <@FrightBox> haha getta you outta here with your aklys propaganda 01:54 <@Tone> There's a good table on the wiki that compares magicbane at different enchantments 01:55 <@Tone> I historically haven't used it much for some reason, which is probably a flaw in my game honestly 01:55 <@FrightBox> yeah i perused it, but i wasn't math-y/interested enough to really fine tune and pay attention to the damage calculations 01:55 <@FrightBox> haven't used the table or magicbane? 01:55 <@Tone> magicbane 01:55 <@FrightBox> oh dude i'm lovin this little dagger 01:56 <@FrightBox> MR plus effects that proc pretty ridiculously often, it's great 01:56 <@FrightBox> albeit a bit annoying 01:56 <@FrightBox> sick of probing wraiths 01:56 plus it soaks up any curses thrown your way 01:56 magicbane is one of the best weapon artifacts in the game in my opinion 01:56 <@FrightBox> what are the prioritized attack spells outside MM for wizards? 01:56 <@FrightBox> i've got finger of death too 01:57 fireball and cone of cold work well 01:57 you run risk of buring scrolls/potions or freezing potions with those spells though 01:58 but they're great AoE spells, clear out a zoo or throne room fast 01:58 <@FrightBox> ah true, well i'll party in gehennom for a while just stabbin folk and see if it starts getting hairy 01:58 a wiz with the eye, a lot of power and fireball spell can clean up on astral 01:58 <@FrightBox> can you increase pw cap somehow? 01:59 <@FrightBox> outside of levels 01:59 potions of gain energy 01:59 bless them if able 01:59 <@FrightBox> oh like healing? drink them when maxxed? 01:59 largr gains if blessed 01:59 si 01:59 <@FrightBox> yeah casting so far seems prohibitive once you get the amulet so i could see that as being pretty necessary 02:00 prohibitive after getting the eye? 02:00 <@FrightBox> no yendor, sorry 😃 02:00 ah 02:00 <@FrightBox> it's beastly after getting the eye, and then maybe tough again after yendor 02:00 THAT amulet ;) 02:01 <@FrightBox> but i guess that's why MM is the go-to since it's low level and less pw 02:01 yeah hard to go wrong with magic missile 02:01 ok bed time. gnite and good luck 02:01 <@FrightBox> same for me 02:01 <@FrightBox> night all 02:02 <@Tone> night guys 02:03 -!- FIQ has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1128 points, T:1455, killed by a killer bee 02:08 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 02:14 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 02:27 yo https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9prudm/i_made_a_java_autostartscummer_for_public_servers/ 02:32 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 02:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 02:35 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:06 !rng polymorph pet | no 03:06 ShivanHunter: polymorph pet 03:06 welp now I have a pet Olog-hai 03:32 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 03:37 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:15 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 04:18 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:36 -!- mischief has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:44 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 05:24 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:31 PavelB: slex didn't "rename" the anachrononononono to anachonaut, it retained dnethack's original name :D 05:33 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 05:34 i.e. originally it was going to be called anachronist, which is much easier to spell IMHO 05:38 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:10 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:38 I have a pet arch-lich and balrog. I apologize in advance for when I inevitably die and leave bones 06:40 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 06:56 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 06:56 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 07:09 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 07:09 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 07:14 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 07:17 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 07:18 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 07:21 lmao a random luckstone lying around in Mines' End. I already picked up the guaranteed one 07:29 -!- Cassieopeia_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:29 -!- Cassieopeia_ has joined #hardfought 07:39 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 07:39 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 07:45 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 07:45 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 07:49 -!- Lymee has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:50 -!- NCommander has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:50 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 07:55 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 07:55 -!- NCommander has quit [Changing host] 07:55 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 07:58 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 08:17 -!- stenno_ is now known as stenno 08:27 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 08:32 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:34 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:37 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 08:37 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 08:42 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 08:43 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:25771 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:25772 08:56 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 09:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:05 ShivanHunter a java auto startscummer 09:05 hahah 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:25975 09:05 I NEED RINGS OF SLOW DIGESTION 09:06 AND I KEEP DYING >:| 09:06 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:25976 09:06 so that's your post 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:25977 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:25977 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:26020 09:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:26 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:10 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 10:12 <@rikersan> chris you here right now 10:14 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG seems like in nero's PR, the (wizmode?) "damage = xx" when you hit something still exists. doesn't appear in your dev version, only that I think. just fyi you should probabyl change that before/after merging 10:14 Will do, @rikersan! 10:15 <@rikersan> also lmao the ARS gen'd on lvl 2 after getting cleaver as a gift on lvl 1 10:16 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:19 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 10:19 Oh, regular random drop? 10:19 Chris_ANG: Message from @rikersan at 2018-10-20 10:14 EDT: seems like in nero's PR, the (wizmode?) "damage = xx" when you hit something still exists. doesn't appear in your dev version, only that I think. just fyi you should probabyl change that before/after merging 10:19 <@rikersan> yep 10:19 <@rikersan> and nodensfork and a blessed magic lamp on the same level 10:19 <@rikersan> there's a coaligned altar on lvl 1 and I managed to get cleaver, blade dancer/singer, and garnet rod as well 10:20 <@rikersan> found a random =oSD as well 10:20 <@rikersan> neu vamp barb 10:22 I don't see a damage = xx? 10:22 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 10:22 Also, lol 10:23 And I guess you don't need to worry about /oDs either XD 10:23 (Lost a promising local Binder game to a soldier with a /oD) 10:23 <@rikersan> huh 10:23 <@rikersan> welp 10:24 <@rikersan> now I have the cloak of the unheld one 10:24 <@rikersan> yay for stupid random arti drop 10:24 <@rikersan> huh tha'ts odd chris 10:24 <@rikersan> I'm getting it for every hit 10:24 <@rikersan> > damage = 18 You kill the housecat! 10:26 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 10:27 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 10:29 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 10:30 Oh, I probably pushed that by mistake. 10:30 My local version prints about a zillion feedback lines whenever you hit something. 10:31 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 10:31 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 10:34 Chris_ANG: I've been wondering; dnethack has a whole lot of artifacts. Are there any that no player has ever had in a real game? Or do you have a way to ensure that all of them have a reasonable chance of generating? 10:36 <@rikersan> it's likely that nobody has had one of the crowning gifts before 10:36 <@rikersan> and I don't believe anyboyd has finished the hedrow noble quest 10:37 Chris_ANG new release of dnethack when? :P 10:37 <@rikersan> but amy there's not actually that many, check out a pirate ascension sometime 10:37 as in, any updates on the 3.16.0 channel 10:37 or just a new version in general 10:39 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 10:39 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 10:43 <@rikersan> chris: don't vampires start with drain res 10:43 <@rikersan> it's not showing up in my ctrl x at least 10:43 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Tha Ang Mal Law) killed the nymph queen, on T:16570 10:43 @rikersan: oh do pirates really get so many? 10:43 <@rikersan> oh absolutely 10:44 I think you start with it as a consequence of being undead. 10:44 <@rikersan> hm ok 10:44 <@rikersan> the wiki says you do, i'm just still getting the draining msgs from other vamps 10:44 Oh, that may be wrong then. 10:45 <@rikersan> well I haven't actually been drained 10:46 Oh again, Vampires have like a 1/3 chance of draining you per hit, so if you've been seeing the message and not getting drained that's a pretty good indication that you have DrainRes XD 10:46 <@rikersan> ah ok 10:46 <@rikersan> I thought the msg didn't show up if you were drain res 10:48 LarienTelrunya: I have no way of tracking what artifacts get generated. Probably someone's got all the regular ones, 10:48 but it does seem likely that noone's gotten all the off-alignment crowning gifts. 10:48 K2: Soon(tm) 10:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:16 a new slex version also wants to come out soon(TM) :D if everything goes well, I might have it ready by monday evening 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1597 points, T:3302, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 11:20 <@IDF> Hello 11:20 Hello @IDF, Welcome to #hardfought 11:21 <@IDF> How do I register an account? When I press the regisrer button on dgamelaunch nothing happens 11:21 @IDF: are you the player who played a couple games on the em.slashem.me server a couple hours ago? 11:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:22 <@Tone> @IDF You should get a screen that looks like this: 11:22 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/503226432105873429/unknown.png 11:22 <@Tone> Does that not appear? 11:25 <@IDF> No it does not appear 11:25 <@IDF> And ye I played on slashem 11:25 <@IDF> I mostly play on alt.org tho 11:25 <@Tone> How are you connecting to the server IDF? 11:25 <@IDF> with ssh 11:26 weird, actually the registration process should be the same for both servers, so if you managed to register on esm then you should be able to register on hdf too... 11:26 <@Tone> Yeah that is weird 11:26 I seem to recall there being something that you need to register the account on the US hardfought server first 11:26 <@Tone> I'd be curious if you could connect through the website 11:26 <@IDF> Ssh nethack@eu.hardfought.org 11:26 <@IDF> Thats the command I use 11:26 ^^ try nethack@hardfought.org 11:26 <@Tone> oh maybe that's why 11:26 <@IDF> Ok 11:26 you can then transfer the account to the eu server 11:26 <@IDF> Ok 11:27 <@Tone> Yeah try the us server, then update your config file there, then you can transfer everything to eu 11:28 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 11:29 <@IDF> Ok I created an account 11:29 <@IDF> On the US server 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:26273 11:30 <@IDF> Ty 11:31 @IDF: you should probably be able to log in to the eu server with the account you just created 11:31 and then the "j" option will sync data from the hdf-us server 11:33 <@IDF> It works now 11:33 <@IDF> Thank ypu 11:33 :) 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:26658 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:26826 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:26960 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:27107 11:49 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:27977 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:27979 12:00 <@IDF> Oof 12:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:28372 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:28373 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:28651 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:28852 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:28855 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28973 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:29705 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:30653 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:30654 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:30777 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:30790 12:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:30869 12:33 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law), 1829500 points, T:30906, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Cropper/nh361/dumplog/1539751028.nh361.txt 12:38 -!- Cassieopeia has joined #hardfought 12:38 <@akaTrickster> good ascension 12:38 -!- Cassieopeia_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:38 <@akaTrickster> I haven't even been able to ascend once, too much of a wuss 12:50 <@rikersan> chris_ang: I do not have drain res. 12:51 <@rikersan> either that or wraiths ignore drain res now 12:53 @rikersan: where are you playing? I want to watch 12:53 <@rikersan> local sorry 12:53 <@rikersan> I'm using the dev version of dnh 12:58 Huh. Well, that explains that. 12:59 I think vampires might just globally not resist drain. 12:59 Or I screwed up this macro, one of the two. 13:00 Screwed up the macro 13:01 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1912 points, T:3182, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 13:10 <@rikersan> ah cool thanks chris 13:10 Chris_ANG: \o/ 13:11 <@rikersan> chris also 13:11 <@rikersan> you need to buff thoth amon 13:11 <@rikersan> like seriously 13:11 <@rikersan> I always 2 hit him, and he doesn't even hit me onc 13:13 <@IDF> I have a question 13:14 <@rikersan> feel free to ask 13:14 <@IDF> Is it better to go through gnomish mines or just continue the rest of dungeons of doom 13:14 <@IDF> I always die in gnomish mines 13:14 <@rikersan> it depends on your character 13:14 <@rikersan> in general go to minetown but then come back up and try for the rest later 13:15 <@IDF> So like 13:15 <@IDF> Do the mimes 13:15 <@IDF> *mines 13:15 <@IDF> Until minetown 13:15 <@IDF> And then come back to dungeons of doom? 13:16 <@IDF> I'll try 13:16 <@IDF> Thank you 13:17 The mines are also easier if you're lawful 13:17 <@IDF> I'm chaotic 13:17 <@IDF> Right now 13:17 right here 13:18 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 13:20 <@IDF> I'll do the first levels so i get XP and some items and then I'll come back to dungeons of dooom 13:22 <@IDF> Its a bit easier since I zapped myself with wand of invisibility 13:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3194 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:3923 13:44 <@IDF> Did anyone just saw me how many orcs just spawned in one place 13:45 orcs like to spawn in large groups 13:46 <@IDF> Oh 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5391 13:51 <@IDF> It was pretty funny because they all spawned in a corridor and everytime i killed one another will come in the place of it instantly and it took me like 1 minute of pressing a button 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 16168 points, T:6075, petrified by removing gloves while wielding a cockatrice corpse 14:21 <@Tone> Streaming some more nethack - Continuing the 6-conduct Dwarven Archeologist I started yesterday (Illiterate, Vegan, Wishless, Polyitemless). Just cleared minetown and now headed back to the main dungeon 😄 14:21 <@Tone> https://www.twitch.tv/tonelive 14:30 @Tone: when tnnt is over, is there a chance to see you stream slex? *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 14:33 <@Tone> LarienTelrunya: I'm sure I'll get around to that at some point 😄 14:34 yay! 14:41 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 14:42 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 14:43 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 14:44 -!- Tempest_nano has joined #hardfought 14:44 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 14:46 <@Luxidream> !who 14:46 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] IceBox [tnnt] toneLive [tnnt] Luxidream [tnnt] oh6 [tnnt] hypnotist [nh362] knavery [nh362] Delraven [un] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 14:48 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 14:50 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 14:52 @mtf you around? 14:52 <@mtf> I am now, what's up 14:52 <@mtf> (just sat down) 14:53 so rld bot, will it relay mesaages from *any* channel its parked in to ##nethack-hardfought on discord? or just from here? 14:53 <@mtf> just from there, it's a 1:1 mapping afaik 14:53 ok 14:54 so for the TNNT, do you want rld to relay messages from #tnnt while the tourney is live? 14:54 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 14:54 all game events are being displayed there 14:54 <@mtf> yea absolutely, would love to keep the discord posted on that stuff 14:54 ok 14:54 great ;) 14:55 we turned off TNNT livelog and death messages from #hardfought (!who and !whereis still work for it) 14:55 <@mtf> we'll probably make an announcement a few days ahead of time about the tourney so we can get some discussion about it brewing on our side 😄 14:55 all livelog and death/asc messages for TNNT are in #tnnt 14:55 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 14:56 cool ;) 14:56 <@mtf> ok, we'll just make another channel 14:56 <@mtf> and I'll hook it up 14:56 sounds good 14:56 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 14:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 14:59 -!- Tempest_nano has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:01 <@mtf> bot going down for a restart 15:02 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 15:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 15:06 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 15:07 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 15:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] satori (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 419 points, T:1200, killed by a straw golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:39 <@IDF> I hate being frozen 15:42 <@IDF> In the yet most exciting part of your adventure some random monster freezes you and other 4 gang bang you 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9203 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 874 points, T:1556, killed by a giant spider 15:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:05 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 16:07 !tell K2 SLEX 2.37 is ready at the master branch. This is a savebreak release. Many things got changed, and I also edited the makefiles so that they should now use the -O flag as you suggested. If you can find the time, can you install it on hdf? :) (there's no urgency, so if you're occupied with tnnt stuff, slex can wait) 16:07 No worries, LarienTelrunya, I've got this! 16:07 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 766 points, T:1786, killed by a dwarf 16:07 huh, Beholder has a new message when you use !tell? 16:09 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:21766 16:17 <@Luxidream> !tell Luxidream screw u 16:17 Luxidream shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, @Luxidream. 16:17 <@Luxidream> !tell Luxidream screw u 16:17 @Luxidream: Message from @Luxidream at 2018-10-20 16:17 EDT: screw u 16:17 I'm on it, @Luxidream. 16:17 <@Luxidream> !tell Luxidream screw u 16:17 @Luxidream: Message from @Luxidream at 2018-10-20 16:17 EDT: screw u 16:17 Will do, @Luxidream! 16:18 <@Luxidream> maybe I should just check the source 16:18 @Luxidream: Message from @Luxidream at 2018-10-20 16:17 EDT: screw u 16:18 <@IDF> Lmao 16:19 @Luxidream: this new slex version will allow you to have alias names!!! :) 16:20 <@Luxidream> heck yeah 16:20 <@Luxidream> finally get to name my chaotic loli mahou shoujo 16:21 yaaaaay :D 16:21 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 16:31 i shoudl play mahou shoujo too 16:31 just because of madoka 16:32 but not loli because PMMM must not be sexualized 16:33 once I played an orc mahou shoujo and got to dungeon level 24 or so before dying to something stupid 16:34 orc mahou shoujo lol 16:34 the mental image 16:34 isn't there this anime where there are actual dudes being magic girls 16:34 attie told me about it 16:35 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cute_High_Earth_Defense_Club_Love! 16:35 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 16:36 aren't the male ones called "mahou shonen"? 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12323 16:37 <@shadowsapex> there are like multiple 16:39 yes 16:39 mahou shojo shonen 16:39 magical girl boys 16:39 (just made that up) 16:42 -!- Tempest_nano has joined #hardfought 16:44 -!- stenno is now known as stenno\ootc 16:44 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 16:49 -!- Tempest_nano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:55 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 16:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 16:57 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had war hammer named Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:12623 17:04 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:04 stenno\ootc: https://myanimelist.net/anime/36902/Mahou_Shoujo_Ore 17:05 oh6: i meant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cute_High_Earth_Defense_Club_Love! 17:05 oh ok 17:05 I should read back 17:14 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 17:15 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:14297 17:17 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 36504 points, T:14588, killed by a dagger 17:22 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: *poof*] 17:28 siigh, orctown again 17:29 half the reason I'm in favour of orctown is because it gives me a reason to stop playing nethack and get something else done 17:31 <@FrightBox> yes, more orctown hate! 17:31 <@FrightBox> i'm part of that anti-fan club for sure 17:34 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:35 poor lorimer 17:36 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:39 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:39 <@spookidream> I am pro orctown 17:40 <@FrightBox> i like the flavor it brings, but it just makes the whole run feel more dreary and empty 17:40 <@FrightBox> minetown is a bustling metropolis of excitement except when it's filled with orcs 17:40 do you like it even when it has a shop? 17:40 <@spookidream> you get an altar. That’s more than some runs will give you 17:40 <@FrightBox> dont all minetowns have an altar? 17:41 <@FrightBox> or is an unaligned altar easier to convert or something? 17:41 <@spookidream> Right but you always get to use it 17:41 @FrightBox It's an altar undefended by a priest. 17:41 <@spookidream> there’s no aligned priest 17:41 <@FrightBox> ah yeah that's true, so it is easier to convert in that sense 17:41 In most minetowns, 2/3 of the time you can't use the altar for sacrificing. 17:41 The aligned priest is worth more more than an altar, by a wide margin. 17:41 <@spookidream> debatable 17:42 make that less than 2/3 because you can sometimes get lightning resistance and a wand of death 17:42 Only debatable if you haven't run the numbers on protection. 17:42 <@FrightBox> hmm, yeah i could see an empty altar being better for classes that appreciate an early sac gift 17:42 *Nine* points of AC. 17:42 versus, I don't even know, altars aren't that great. 17:42 <@FrightBox> that was definitely the thing that got my wizard up and running in this current successful run 17:43 There's also the not insignificant matter of a live shopkeeper, so you can identify scrolls of identify. 17:43 <@spookidream> Not every character is getting all of those points early game 17:43 It takes a while to get them all, granted. 17:43 The value of an altar is also somewhat variable; it is arguably most valuable to chaotic barbarians. 17:43 Because Cleaver. 17:44 Oh, and wizards, because Magicbane. 17:44 <@spookidream> shop generation is common enough that it’s not an issue in most cases 17:45 <@spookidream> I think I’ve only had one or two ascensions 17:45 <@spookidream> where there were no shops and orctown 17:45 <@FrightBox> i'll never forget my priest ascension that had that 17:46 <@FrightBox> that was like a rage-playthrough 17:46 <@FrightBox> i was mad the whole time but i'm most proud of that run 17:46 <@FrightBox> mad all the way until castle, where i finally got what was owed to me 17:46 <@shadowsapex> a ragethrough 17:46 <@FrightBox> YES that is the name 17:46 <@spookidream> It’s like maybe a 1% occurrence 17:47 I've never had an ascension with no shops. I've had a lot of *games* with no shops, though. 17:47 <@FrightBox> i am the 1% then 17:47 <@FrightBox> it was a first for me for sure 17:47 <@FrightBox> i should say i think there was a potion shop maybe 17:47 <@FrightBox> definitely no general store or scroll/book shop 17:48 In a pinch, you can put one each of the most common scroll types in a bag and toss it in. 17:48 <@spookidream> Then you can throw scrolls through the door to price I’d 17:48 <@spookidream> Not a big deal 17:48 Yeah. 17:48 Once you have a reasonable-sized collection of scrolls, ID is almost always one of the ones you have duplicates of. 17:49 And that's the one you really need to know, to get started. 17:49 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 18:00 jonadab: Unnethack's answer to this was to add The Town branch, which is never destroyed. 18:00 (the no-shops-with-orctown problem) 18:00 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:00 <@FrightBox> yeah i think i learned that one after 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19063 18:01 frightbox: I remember hearing about hothraxxa's shopless game - sounded pretty annoying 18:02 <@FrightBox> it was pretty tough, but so satisfying to end in an ascension 18:02 <@FrightBox> it also became my most OP char by a longshot, not sure if that's just because the priest quest is especially lucrative 18:02 <@FrightBox> so i had like a billion more scrolls/pots than usual 18:05 you just get pelted with loot, some games 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:19358 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) genocided disenchanter, on T:19510 18:25 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Tha Ang Mal Law), 126883 points, T:21127, killed by a monster (party breaker) 18:32 -!- lel has quit [K-Lined] 18:33 -!- tacco| has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:34 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 18:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 48 points, T:143, killed by a newt 18:35 I kept poking it without realizing I was next to a lichen 18:36 gee git, thanks for giving me a merge conflict where one branch added a blank line and the other one did nothing. 18:37 aosdict: https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2063= 18:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:20855 18:56 how is that even related to nethack tho :v 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Set, on T:22032 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:22052 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:22095 19:11 -!- Tempest_nano has joined #hardfought 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] Sakusen (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11306 points, T:10154, poisoned by a killer bee 19:20 -!- Tempest_nano has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:22191 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:22192 19:23