00:05 @FrightBox: Looks like no. It is level-dependent, though. So if you're having trouble that might be it. 00:05 <@FrightBox> but the chance goes up marginally with level, right? 00:05 <@FrightBox> i suppose i was around the 60% region 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:68958 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:5177 00:14 lol 00:17 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9470 00:18 @FrightBox: Right 00:19 I believe it's 50/50 at 4th level 00:20 I think you only get 75/25 at 16th level, though. 00:21 So runs of failures shouldn't be that uncommon. 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:69338 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:69338 00:32 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail named boi", on T:11766 00:32 boi 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:69543 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Ptah, on T:69572 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:69580 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7674 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:69630 00:44 You had a huge defense bonus (+20). 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3494748 points, T:69681, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1539723205.nh361.txt 01:03 <@Luxidream> !lastasc Hill 01:03 @Luxidream: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/H/Hill/tnnt/dumplog/1539102613.tnnt.txt 01:10 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:27 this game has started to get good so I just know I'm going to die 01:31 -!- ShivanHunter has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:39 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:23109 01:40 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:23918 01:42 -!- ShivanHunter has joined #hardfought 01:42 bloody ISP 01:47 Out of curiosity, is there anything custom in TNNT other than the Luggage? I've ascended a couple games but I'm curious if I missed any little things 01:48 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:25632 01:49 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 01:51 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 01:52 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:26436 01:52 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26447 02:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] u42586 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 121 points, T:428, killed by a goblin 03:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:39 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:47 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 05:25 lol elenmirie__ 05:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] shadowsapex (Brd Swn Fem Cha) wished for "fixed greased magic marker", on T:40938 05:27 milky extra healing! *sigh* 05:28 besides, foxes are scary 05:31 yes, they are 05:32 fast and bitey 05:33 eep 3 different traps in a 2x3 room 05:33 also, a manes killed my kitty 05:33 [hdf-us] [tnnt] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:32011 06:06 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:16 [hdf-us] [tnnt] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 148379 points, T:34184, poisoned by a vampire bat 06:19 Welp. RNGesus really had it out for me that game 06:25 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:52643 06:38 [hdf-us] [tnnt] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:7779 06:38 FINALLY 06:39 I've been altar scumming for like 7000 turns 06:40 OK, and RNGesus gave me charm monster in a chest, all is forgiven 06:40 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:52703 06:55 -!- Tempest_nano has joined #hardfought 06:59 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed master key of thievery", on T:52821 06:59 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed master key of thievery", on T:52822 06:59 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed master key of thievery", on T:52822 07:11 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:31554 07:28 I missed that the Roguelike Celebration videos are up https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKv_QzXft4mD6TXmQBZtzIA/videos 07:33 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 07:37 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 07:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 07:38 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:40 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 crystal pick", on T:53618 07:40 [hdf-us] [tnnt] bagun (Kni Hum Mal Law), 376 points, T:1251, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] bagun (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1444 08:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:51 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52 Elronnd: Do you or anyone at esm know who "Ozma777" is in the bilious patchdb? I'm looking through old patches and see several references to her making a variant, which I haven't heard of. 08:52 I suppose there's a narrow chance that it's actually AntiGulp and SpliceHack, but based on the comments I don't think so. 09:05 https://sourceforge.net/p/slashem/activity/ 09:05 Done and soon slashTNG and Ozslashem will be working here: https://github.com/Ozma777 09:06 there is even stuff there 09:09 ah ok 09:09 neat 09:21 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35580 09:22 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha) destroyed Blackbeard's Ghost, on T:35580 09:29 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 09:31 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 09:48 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 09:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [-oo FIQ Sigyn] by K2 09:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by K2 09:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [-vvv Dracunos farfar_ honu] by K2 09:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [-vvv hothraxxa irina|log Joonaa] by K2 09:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [-vvv khoR oh6 tungtn] by K2 09:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvv bhaak Chris_ANG lorimer] by K2 09:51 in case anyone is wondering... ;) 09:52 voiced ppl are channel bots (announcy, beholder, rld) and any active variant devs and nethack devteam 09:53 ordinary players don't get to talk? 09:53 they do 09:53 Nice setup 09:53 technically +v doesnt do anything here 09:53 I never wonder, if gives me a headache 09:53 oh it's only a tag 09:53 but the + next to the name puts them up close to top of user list, easy to find 09:54 since there's a lot of variant discussion here and all the devs are usually here, that mad emost sense 09:54 *made 09:54 <@Tone> @rikersan I remember you asked about who BEHiker57W was a while ago. I wasn't familiar with them but I just saw them mentioned in some old rgrn post, apparently they were speed running back in devnull 2007. So it appears they've been around for a while 09:55 i'll have to catch AntiGulp and (god help us all) Amy when they're on next 09:56 test 09:56 * K2 slaps bhaak around a bit with a large trout 09:56 it works! 09:56 now if you could make that cross white with a red background, that would be dandy 09:56 mmmk 09:58 ah she had already registered her nick 09:58 ok so that's set 09:58 lol I sort first by activitiy and then alphabetically so it doesn't make a difference for me 09:59 even if the channel went back into +q mode, if you're registered you'll still be able to talk 09:59 +v or not 10:01 bhaak you gotta let me know when you update unnethack ;) 10:01 i see more commits 10:01 OMG MOAR 10:03 anyone interested: I wrote https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Phol_ende_wodan#.22Kitchen_sinkiness.22:_a_measure_of_variants recently, and would like to hear what people think of it 10:04 clicky click 10:07 aosdict: I actually read that literally today, I really liked it and the line placement seems pretty neat 10:07 bhaak - trying to play unnethack via dgl (NOT in utf8 mode) - check_utf8_console after test: Invalid argument 10:07 and kicked back to dgl menu 10:08 I would put NH<3.6.0 beneath vanilla 3.6.2, maybe? 10:08 bhaak same thing in utf8 mode too 10:08 invalid argument 10:08 Hmm, yeah, this wasn't really considering different versions of vanilla. And it would depend on which you defined as the 0 mark 10:09 if you defined 3.6.2 as the 0 mark, 3.4.3 would probably be fairly negative 10:09 wouldnt 1.3d be the 0 mark 10:10 Everything in nethack is just an extension of pong 10:10 hahaha 10:11 K2: you could if you wanted, but since most variants aren't based on 1.3d it would probably not be a useful visualization 10:11 i see 10:11 hi 10:11 Hello bouquet, Welcome to #hardfought 10:11 hello, bouquet! 10:11 K2: when I hit "u" for UnNetHack it doesn't start. 10:12 the screen flashes briefly 10:12 i know, working on it 10:12 ok, so long as you know! 10:12 [10:07] <@K2> bhaak - trying to play unnethack via dgl (NOT in utf8 mode) - check_utf8_console after test: Invalid argument 10:12 thats what is preventing it from loading 10:12 Pretty sure I have a rockin' game going from last night. Or I died, I can never remember. 10:12 whether you have utf8 on or not 10:12 game is safe 10:12 have you tried utf9 or 10? 10:13 hah 10:13 or ipv7? 10:13 all the cool kids are using v7 now. 10:13 its prob an id10T error on my end 10:13 bhaak 10:13 where are you :P 10:13 it has that extra header packet with details about the endpoint users personal life 10:13 instead of pebkac, we have pebhaak 10:13 oh gosh 10:14 i'd need more than one extra header packet 10:14 "problem exists. Bhaaaaak!" 10:14 maybe i should load up windows 11 10:14 windows elevensies 10:14 K2: for the time being, comment out the exit(EXIT_FAILURE); after perror("check_utf8_console after test"); in sys/share/unixtty.c on line 493 10:15 ok thanks 10:17 bouquet back in bidness 10:20 oh, idea 10:20 K2: with what program are you accessing hardfought.org? 10:20 dgl 10:20 via putty 10:20 heh putty 10:20 read that wrong 10:21 okay, maybe it's because of putty. I'll have to check 10:21 bouquet what were you using to try and play? 10:22 gnome terminal 10:23 nvm, I'm stupid. I just tried it locally and it didn't work either. 10:23 erm, "locally" meaning with my ssh 10:23 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:45985 10:23 seems to work now. Rockin' game all set to YASD 10:24 ;) 10:24 UnNetHack updated (all servers) 10:27 that's due to the utf8 auto detection. the first call succeeds, the second with the same struct doesn't. maybe the struct gets changed in the first call? but then that would be really odd as it works on my linux machine at home and asc.run also doesn't have that issue 10:28 hdf servers run ubuntu server 16.04 10:28 vintage 10:28 [hdf-us] [un] bhaak (Val Hum Fem Law), 4 points, T:64, killed by a falling object, in explore mode 10:29 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:30 what OS are you on right now bhaak at your current location? 10:30 my IRC client is on Gentoo, I am on OSX 10:31 mac 10:31 ... 10:31 work machine 10:31 mac as a work machine... 10:31 [K2 has flashbacks to the CEO assistant who uses mac for a work machine] 10:32 that's not unusual. lots of developers flocked to OSX. granted, nowadays it's reversing because of the shitty machines they are producing 10:32 we have 2 macs here at the company I work for. only reason they're allowed to use macs is because 1) they're in marketing and 2) they cry alot of they cant use a mac 10:32 mac hardware is impressive actually 10:32 its the os 10:33 i think apple purposely crippled osx and how it can interact with windows AD 10:33 bhaak: hopefully non-Windows OSes are becoming more established as developer friendly in general 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:21468 10:36 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 546162 points, T:46417, petrified by a soldier 10:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v tungtn] by K2 10:42 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Ixoth (Cav Hum Mal Law), 6790 points, T:4215, quit 10:43 how the hell do i get three orctowns in a row 10:43 the RNG hates you 10:43 or, to be exact, indiscriminately hates everybody 10:44 just you (Ixoth) moreso than others 10:44 okay, let's see. Ubuntu 16.04.5 installed in a VM 10:49 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28770 10:52 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:52 now look at that. it really broke down 10:53 wtf is different on ubuntu vs my gentoo or the debian on my laptop? 10:54 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire bat, on T:10138 10:55 hmm 10:55 brb 10:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker named The DM's Pen", on T:29254 10:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Con Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8289 10:58 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fireproof spellbook of polymorph", on T:29366 11:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:01 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:29632 11:03 that's getting ridiculous 11:04 logged into my vm via a port forwarding on the vm via reverse ssh tunnel from my home machine via ssh from my work machine 11:07 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Ixoth (Cav Hum Mal Law), 1874 points, T:3082, killed by a soldier ant 11:19 Vorpal Blade beheads the rope golem! You destroy the rope golem! 11:19 -!- Ixoth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19 I didn't know rope golems had heads 11:19 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:30990 11:20 Vorpal Blade beheads the ettin mummy! 11:20 *chop* *chop(* 11:22 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:31629 11:22 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12209 11:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 486 points, T:1511, killed by a kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:30 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed greased fireproof magic marker", on T:32914 11:37 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:33420 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] woodstea23 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:25788 11:38 argh, a peaceful djinni from my blessed magic lamp 11:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2745 11:43 -!- oh6_ has joined #hardfought 11:44 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:33733 11:44 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:33734 11:45 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:45 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof ring of levitation", on T:33815 11:47 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 295386 points, T:34161, choked on a minotaur corpse 11:48 aosdict, what are those patches that are more kitchen sinky than slex? 11:48 <@Luxidream> so much for finishing that before class lol 11:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2294 points, T:3718, killed by Ms. Tuktoyaktuk; the shopkeeper 11:51 doh 11:59 aosdict: why are dnethack and nethack4 close to 0? 12:00 bug_sniper: a lot of patches that are small and add one new thing, for instance. 1/1 = 1 12:00 bhaak: dnethack... isn't close to 0 12:01 -!- oh6 has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:01 -!- oh6_ is now known as oh6 12:01 oh, that sucker is linewrapping 12:01 nethack4 is 0, because AFAIK it contains no new stuff at all, and UI/architectural changes don't count. The only gameplay changes are things like floating eye and bohsplosion mitigation. 12:02 now that makes much more sense 12:03 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 552 points, T:4119, killed by a giant bat 12:04 also, sporkhack isn't featured because I know next to nothing about it 12:04 a patch that adds only new stuff will be at 1. but patches that are changing gameplay will be at 0, regardless how much gameplay they change, right? 12:05 sporkhack changes much more gameplay than adding content. it will be pretty far on the left 12:05 Depends... things like the object materials patch, that's probably one instance of new stuff. 12:05 It's not that well-defined :/ 12:06 my gut would put it about midway between grunt and un 12:06 lorimer: Message from K2 at 2018-09-03 16:27 EDT: added livelogging to SporkHack :P 12:06 k2: :D 12:06 * PavelB tries to find context for this interesting-looking conversation 12:06 also maybe i should talk more in here on account of 6wk ago. oops 12:07 lorimer: what's there new than a few hated levels and racial armor ;-) 12:07 shambling horror is not new, it's random :-p 12:08 it adds critters (other than the horror), items, armor, a few others levels besides orctown <3, a couple mechanics :) but it didn't go whole hog at all on new stuff 12:09 adding mechanics is probably not 'new stuff' as I originally conceived of it. 12:09 yeah, it's hard to define new stuff. shifting out the resistance mechanics? it's a change for sure, but how new? 12:09 since it probably doesn't just add moar thingz to an existing system 12:09 ^ definition of new stuff 12:09 Is lorimer the maintainer of SporkHack? 12:09 spell of reflection? complicated. reflection exists already. but spell form? 12:10 spell of reflection adds an object and is therefore new stuff 12:10 PavelB: no. lorimer is the original developer of SporkHack 12:10 PavelB: creator is better here. k2 does much more maintenance than i have in a long time 12:10 I see 12:10 I would have certainly put it left of grunthack, though 12:11 I think that one depends on how you think of "new". It's either left or right of grunt, not by too much in either direction. 12:11 Grunt added some grade "A" junk, so. 12:12 grunt adds tons of spells 12:14 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 270 points, T:1970, killed by a giant bat 12:15 I'm not sure I like being doubly notified for tnnt happenings both by Beholder here and by Croesus in #tnnt 12:16 set one to ignore 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 574 points, T:820, killed by an electric shock 12:18 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 12:19 acehack and nitrohack are on top of nethack4 I guess 12:20 and there's also slashthem, which is between slashem and slex 12:20 aosdict: good advice, I /ignored croesus here 12:20 personally I think that UI enhancements and mechanic changes qualify as "new stuff" 12:21 bug_sniper: I ignored non-active/non-hdf variants. 12:21 like, FIQ's symmetry changes have far-reaching consequences for how the game plays 12:22 oh6: But they aren't changes that make it more of a "kitchen sink variant". 12:22 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 164 points, T:1543, killed by a purple worm 12:23 Does xnh have any objects which are not normally liquid but can generate with the material liquid 12:24 no 12:24 my notion of a kitchen-sink variant is I guess additional-things divided by accompanying gameplay changes to integrate those things 12:25 aaand I should read the wiki page before commenting whee 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:22395 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:22395 12:34 loves me some sporkhack 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Susanowo, on T:22787 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Susanowo, on T:22967 12:38 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 262 points, T:1980, killed by a bat 12:38 mmm that was good... definitely a soup kind of day 12:38 dusting of snow on the ground this morning ;) 12:39 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 12:39 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:40 -!- Tempest_nano has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:44 <@Demo> snow? 12:44 <@Demo> wow 12:44 <@Demo> I actually put on warmer clothes today 12:44 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:46 -!- Ixoth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:46 just a dusting 12:47 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:47 but its not uncommon to see significant snowfall in VT in october 12:48 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 12:49 <@Demo> today was the coldest morning since months ago 12:56 The jellyfish turns to flee! 12:56 The jellyfish deliberately slithers onto a polymorph trap! 12:57 -!- Tempest_nano has joined #hardfought 12:58 -!- Tempest_nano1 has joined #hardfought 13:00 it was supposed to have gone below freezing at the airport last night 13:01 er, in Toronto I mean 13:01 yeah 13:01 goodbye summer 13:01 only got down to 2.3 though 13:02 -!- Tempest_nano has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:02 was -2 C in my driveway this morning 13:02 28 F for USA ppl 13:03 cant wait til january 13:03 -25 to -30 F at night 13:03 which means I can defrost my big freezer 13:05 heh 13:06 ah crap.... shambling horror bottom of mines 13:06 better not be the crazy spell casting variety 13:06 I've only ever used a regular fridge freezer compartment, do big freezers get colder? 13:06 they can? I think we set ours just 5 degrees colder than the regular fridge freezer 13:07 wife said we needed a chest freezer so we got one 13:07 and she promptly filled it 13:07 so now its filled with crap that will probably never be touched 13:08 just like most of the shit in our regular fridge/freezer 13:08 I'll take that ten year old fruitcake, please. 13:08 mmmm 13:09 * oh6 recalls some humour piece about taking fruitcakes to the pawn shop and getting waved off as they have stuff from the Roman Empire they can't sell 13:09 hahah 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Ran Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a gnome corpse on an altar, on T:4133 13:10 ok so this shmbling horror is of the 'i'm a leprchaun and i'm going to steal your gold' variety 13:10 i can deal with that 13:13 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:12412 13:16 a reading rainbowww ~ 13:16 hahahah 13:16 geordi, where's your visor? 13:16 he can see! 13:16 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:15123 13:17 :) 13:18 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5106 13:35 -!- Ixoth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:37 awww wtf 13:37 gnome king in the cellar zapped a wand of striking at me, all the potions in the cellar were on the floor between me and it 13:37 i blame lorimer 13:37 well, they are HIS potions, he has a right to destroy them 13:38 #nethackrights 13:38 i'm filing that under 'fake news' 13:40 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:41 oh here we go again 13:41 random air elemental spawn 13:41 i bet i die 13:42 oooh i won 13:42 imagine that 13:45 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 13:46 -!- Ixoth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47 aosdict: he has a github at https://github.com/ozma777, although it doesn't look like it's been active for a while 13:47 yeah bhaak pointed it out 13:51 -!- Tempest_nano1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:55 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:55 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:56 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 13:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4680 13:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4692 14:00 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2235 points, T:4700, killed by a kitten 14:00 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:04 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 14:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Con Hum Fem Cha), 52247 points, T:14709, killed by a hellfire colossus 14:13 <[Demo]> I need a suggestion for a final village branch option, so far i have the ice caves, the dismal swamp, the black forest, and the gnomish mines 14:13 dismal swamp 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 14814 points, T:16685, killed by a touch of death 14:13 unnethack already has ice caves 14:14 that was an example of a nethack death that i'm pretty sure there is no way to defend against. arch lich shows up in mines and kills you on that turn, no chance to react 14:14 no protection from shapechangers found yet 14:14 ugh 14:14 and no MR 14:15 i don't even think touch of death looks at AC. My AC was -10 14:15 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 gray dragon scale mail", on T:16771 14:16 well... its an arch lich 14:16 wicked high level 14:17 but yeah i dunno if the touch factors in your AC or not 14:18 glad it was only a streak of length 1 :) 14:19 at least being invisible with -10 AC, and being careful about being orthogonally or diagonally lined up with wand-using creatures gives you reasonable hope of avoiding wand of death 14:20 !lastgame hypnotist 14:20 nooodle: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1539873116.nh361.txt 14:22 <[Demo]> no i mean like those already exist and i need a final one to make 14:22 <[Demo]> also dismal swamp is mad cool :) 14:23 aaahhh 14:24 <[Demo]> https://i.imgur.com/V0gZxka.png dismal swamp fill level example 14:30 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Ixoth (Cav Hum Mal Law), 180 points, T:402, killed by a hobbit 14:40 -!- badbodh has joined #hardfought 14:43 -!- Tempest_nano has joined #hardfought 14:47 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Ixoth (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:3237 14:49 gdammit 14:49 my alignment must be shit 14:49 offered same race, no dirge 14:50 got yeenoghu instead 14:53 -!- Ixoth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:53 -!- Ixoth has joined #hardfought 14:53 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Ixoth (Cav Hum Mal Law), 3292 points, T:3286, killed by a water demon 14:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] IceBox (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:35972 14:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:00 -!- badbodh has left #hardfought 15:03 -!- Ixoth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:05 [Demo]: are you also monitoring the other channel right now? 15:05 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:08 Chris_ANG: what does it mean when my drow barbarian gets a "You feel itchier" message with every level up? does that mean the battle-axe is giving progressively worse penalties? 15:08 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had a mace bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:20629 15:08 ffs 15:10 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44860 15:11 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Tha Ang Mal Law), 1922 points, T:1326, killed by a monster (colorless mushroom patch) 15:11 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:20, killed by a goblin 15:13 LarienTelrunya: Yes. The iron penalty is 1/2 your level. 15:13 uhh great, and what does it penalize exactly? Pw regeneration? 15:14 Of course, regen etc. also scale with level, so from that point of view it is staying at a constant 1/2 penalty. 15:14 Power and HP regen. 15:14 ugh... so I guess I should swap it for something else, because I'm a drow and waiting for Pw to invoke the darkness is taking *ages* 15:14 sadly I made the mistake of throwing my droven short sword at a monster so that one's gone now 15:16 This is a dnhslex thing? 15:16 You should probably arrange it so that they start with a two-handed droven sword instead of a battle axe. Or possible just gloves. 15:16 well I'm playing dnhslex, yes; the droven short sword should also exist in regular dnethack? 15:17 oh so you can't normally play a drow barbarian I guess? 15:17 The iron axe. Drow mostly don't start with iron weapons. 15:17 Yeah 15:18 if sokoban crates turn into eggs, are those always unfertilized or can they hatch into monsters? 15:21 "massive chunk of meat" I sure hope that doesn't make me deathly sick if it gets too old :D 15:25 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the all-powerful Manannan Mac Lir!, on T:21460 15:25 \o/ 15:25 ^^ lorimer 15:26 about - damn - time 15:26 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6337 15:26 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:26 omg the mordor orc REALLY had a wand that makes bugs stop moving... he didn't zap it though; Chris_ANG: do they know that I'm sleep resistant and therefore don't zap a wand of sleep? 15:28 also this one stone crate transformed into a dark worm corpse upon popping?! 15:29 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:29 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 7778 points, T:7709, killed by a soldier ant 15:30 @Luxidream I got Dirge! and the livelog for it works 15:30 i think i'm gonna tweak it a bit 15:30 get rid of the ! 15:31 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 22863 points, T:14697, killed by a lynx 15:31 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:31 the nethack paradox of omnipotence: if Manannan Mac Lir is all-powerful, why does he need YOU to go fetch the Amulet? 15:32 because being omnipotent is boring 15:32 not because the other gods are also all-powerful? :D 15:33 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 15:33 aosdict: I find it weird that kitchensinkiness measures ratio, as opposed to quantity 15:33 also, where would dnhslex be on the scale? 15:33 -!- Tempest_nano has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:33 the gods love a good show, for sooth 15:33 dnethack but further right 15:33 what's this kitchensinkness definition? 15:34 LarienTelrunya: A scale for quantity wouldn't really be able to account for the mechanical types of changes 15:34 (also, a scale based on quantity would have to put slex a mile beyond the right edge of the screen) 15:35 hahaha :D 15:35 ais523: something I am loosely trying to quantify. https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Phol_ende_wodan#.22Kitchen_sinkiness.22:_a_measure_of_variants 15:36 what about NH4's monster AI changes? 15:36 are those new stuff? 15:36 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] woodstea23 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of scare monster", on T:26041 15:39 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 15:40 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 5707 points, T:7618, killed by a soldier ant 15:40 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 15:40 "Dispater-Slayer" should really be called "Dispater-Disposer", and "Demo-Slayer" should be "Demogone" 15:40