00:01 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58713 00:06 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:59555 00:07 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59556 00:12 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59684 00:22 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 00:22 I was just playing on the tournament server and it kicked me out and my game is now gone, what happened 00:23 <@Luxidream> segfault? 00:23 my dumplog says You panicked in The Elemental Planes with 1540480 points, 00:23 <@Luxidream> oh, dungeon collapse 00:24 <@Luxidream> !lastgame Chansu 00:24 @Luxidream: No last game for Chansu. 00:24 <@Luxidream> tch 00:24 what does dungeon collapse even mean 00:24 <@Luxidream> can you link? 00:24 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Chansu/tnnt/dumplog/1539282214.tnnt.txt 00:25 <@Luxidream> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Panic 00:25 or is there a different link 00:25 yeah I read that 00:25 does that just mena the game glithced? I don't get it 00:25 <@Luxidream> okay 00:25 <@Luxidream> ask K2 to recover the game 00:25 send him a message you mean? 00:25 <@Luxidream> use !tell if he's in IRC 00:26 <@Luxidream> I don't know if he is, I'm on discord side 00:26 <@Luxidream> if he's not in IRC* 00:27 <@Luxidream> !tell K2 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Chansu/tnnt/dumplog/1539282214.tnnt.txt 00:27 Will do, @Luxidream! 00:28 <@Luxidream> !tell K2 is this recoverable 00:28 Will do, @Luxidream! 00:28 <@Luxidream> there you go 00:30 found a use for scroll of flood. drown all these orcs in moria 00:33 -!- Chansu has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:33 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 00:33 how do I log in so I can message someone 00:34 <@Tone> Chansu: You want to send mail to someone playing? 00:34 I want to message k2 about my game crashing 00:34 <@Tone> ooh 00:35 <@Tone> Just use "!tell K2 [message]' 00:35 <@Tone> and he'll get it next time he checks irc 00:35 !tell K2 test 00:35 Will do, Chansu! 00:36 like that 00:36 ? 00:36 <@Tone> Yes 00:36 <@Tone> !tell Chansu It works like this 00:36 Will do, @Tone! 00:36 <@Tone> Next time you say anything in this channel it will send the message 00:37 !tell K2 I was playing as chansu on the tournament server. without warning my game said the dungeoned collapsed and ended the game. I was wondering if this could be restored somehow 00:37 Chansu: Message from @Tone at 2018-10-13 00:36 EDT: It works like this 00:37 Will do, Chansu! 00:37 how will I know if he sees the message though? 00:38 <@Tone> I guess you won't unless you see it on irc 00:38 <@Tone> but he will 00:38 <@Tone> he's pretty active here and always checks his messages 00:38 <@Tone> It may not be til morning though since it's pretty late here 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:36003 00:39 <@Tone> He'll respond with another !tell, so you'll want to check back in 00:39 I don't have an account though, is it just saved to this nickname? 00:39 like whoever next logs in with this name will see it? 00:40 <@Tone> if they come to this channel and say something, yes 00:40 <@Tone> You can register the nickname if you want 00:40 <@Tone> type /msg Nickserv help 00:40 <@Tone> and look up the register command. I forget the exact steps 00:57 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 807 points, T:2210, killed by a giant ant, while reading a book 01:05 [hdf-us] [tnnt] antigulp (Bar Hum Fem Neu) murdered the disenchanter, her faithful soldier ant, on T:12271 01:05 [hdf-us] [tnnt] antigulp (Bar Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:12322 01:23 -!- Chansu has quit [Quit: *poof*] 01:24 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 01:30 -!- Tempest_nano has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:30 [hdf-us] [tnnt] antigulp (Bar Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13922 01:31 [hdf-us] [tnnt] antigulp (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 29332 points, T:13929, killed by a giant mimic 01:38 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:37282 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:37405 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:37504 02:39 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 02:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:00 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 03:00 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 03:20 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 04:13 -!- Chansu has quit [Quit: *poof*] 04:20 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:27 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:28 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 04:31 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 04:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:40517 04:40 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 04:40 Chris_ANG: sadly I didn't port the technique system to anything; it's just that one of the dnhslex players said he wants to see techniques in dnethack, but they aren't actually in the game 04:42 Sting glows light blue! You hear some noises in the distance. Sting stops glowing. 04:42 clear what the cat did! 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41256 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41257 04:57 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 05:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:11 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 05:11 hello friends 05:11 o/ 05:11 !who 05:11 uniusz: [hdf-us] ShivanHunter [nh362] | [hdf-eu] rootkit [tnnt] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] toaster [nh343] 05:12 uniusz: hi! are you going to participate in the tnnt tournament? and if yes, would you like to join a clan? ♥ 05:12 LarienTelrunya: im not that experienced player ;p 05:13 my best is quest level when playing knight 05:13 i usually just reach minetown lvl 05:13 that's better than I usually do with a knight... 05:13 when this starts ? 05:13 1st of november and it goes the entire month 05:14 hmm, so i write what is my play 05:14 can i start in tnnt and join clan ? 05:14 well if you have a hardfought account, you can join a clan as soon as a clan admin invites you; I can invite you into my clan if you want :) 05:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:42785 05:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42787 05:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42787 05:15 What i need to do in turnament ? 05:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42789 05:15 there are lots of achievements that you can go for, as seen here: https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clans/3.html 05:15 but 05:15 i just need to play 05:15 hover the mouse over an achievement to see its requirements ;) 05:15 or what ? 05:16 yeah, play the "tnnt" variant on one of the hardfought servers and it will count for the tournament 05:16 in fact, we're currently in the pre-tournament phase, which means that while it's not official yet, achievements and stuff are already being tracked for testing purposes 05:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:42828 05:16 tnnt is 3.6.2 05:16 ? 05:17 it's based on 3.6.2 but with a couple changes 05:17 what changes 05:17 not all of those changes are fully known yet but one of them seems to be that on the oracle level you find a chest that lets you trade items with other players 05:17 how can i trade this ? 05:18 not sure, I haven't tried it yet 05:18 if ill get achivement 05:18 ill know it ? 05:18 how ? 05:19 if ill get achivement ill see that in game or what ? 05:20 you will be able to see it on your tournament page; https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/players/bouquet.html is for example the page for player "bouquet", everyone will have such a page where they can see their individual achievements 05:20 if ill join i need to play alot ? 05:21 i dont know how much time ill have in november... 05:21 there's no obligation to do anything :) also, the great thing about the tournament is that no matter whether you play a lot or a little, or whether you are good at the game or not, it never hurts the clan 05:21 ok so i can join :) 05:21 ! 05:21 yes :D 05:22 if you want, I'll invite you ♥ 05:22 i want 05:22 :* 05:22 ^^ 05:22 just a kiss because i dont know how to make heart 05:23 okay I invited you, the invitation should now appear somewhere on your tnnt page 05:23 ok lets see 05:23 https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/index.html is the tournament homepage 05:24 k 05:24 how to login 05:24 or something ? 05:25 i have page but im not login 05:25 uhh not sure, maybe there's a login button at https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clans.html ? 05:25 or at https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clanmgmt/ 05:25 ok 05:25 have it 05:25 ;) 05:26 elrond is in the clan ? 05:26 he is nice player 05:26 yeah Elronnd is our co-admin :) 05:27 i dont see me as a member 05:27 https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clans/3.html 05:27 here 05:27 yeah I don't either, I think the page needs a while to update itself, but I do see you in the clan management page 05:27 ok im going to play some tnnt ;) 05:27 ah now it updated :) 05:28 can i copy my 362 config to tnnt conf ? 05:28 yes 05:28 K2 said something about the tournament page tracking only games played on the US server right now, but I'm fairly sure it will also track EU and AU games soon 05:29 how ? 05:29 how to copy that config 05:29 you can copy it from https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/u/uniusz/nh361/uniusz.nh361rc 05:30 just mark everything and paste it into your terminal when you're at the tnnt config screen 05:30 ok i copy 05:30 how to paste it now ? 05:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43612 05:30 what tnnt screen ? 05:30 in terminal or where ? 05:31 ok 05:31 i get it 05:31 i copy it from page 05:31 now im delete all in tnnt conf in terminal 05:31 and paste it, ok thanks :) 05:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:43629 05:31 oh 05:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43631 05:31 there is option 05:31 copy 362 config to tnnt... 05:32 ahh I didn't know that existed, that makes everything easier :) 05:32 so if this doesnt get eu tnnt 05:32 ill play regular 362 maybe 05:34 well once it gets tracked, all the tnnt games you're playing now will also appear on the clan page, so you should probably still play tnnt instead of 362 ;) 05:34 okay im playing this now :> 05:34 :) 05:35 thanks for inv btw :) 05:35 you're welcome! 05:37 i never participated in something like that 05:38 on server im only recently playing 05:38 before i play alot on single, compilated version 05:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43816 05:38 its nice to get involve in something like this and play with other players 05:38 :) 05:39 this is "Net"-hack ;) 05:39 tournaments are fun, I've participated in junethack a couple of times 05:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:43839 05:39 haha yes! adding the multiplayer component to the game :D 05:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:43843 05:39 nice 05:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43943 05:44 LarienTelrunya: can u give me advice ? 05:44 uhh maybe? what advice do you need? 05:44 if i engrave Elbereth with fingers, after that ill engrave something like "asd" with wand which i found and nothing happens, no output, what that need ? 05:44 that wand is no charged so it cannot be identified ? 05:45 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 pair of water walking boots", on T:48024 05:45 that means that the wand is probably one of the following: nothing, locking, opening, secret door detection, probing or undead turning 05:45 what that mean* no need 05:45 oh i see 05:45 i.e. there's a few wands that simply give no message if you engrave with them 05:45 so ill save this 05:45 so what to do with this wand ? 05:45 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:48025 05:45 i need to check it for opening or dead turning ? 05:46 you can try to test the wand by lining up a corpse, a container and a door and zapping it at those; if you see something happen, you can then name the wand (it does not name itself automatically) 05:46 hey when i zap this on my dog 05:46 i get info about my dog 05:46 oh? then it must be a wand of probing! 05:46 its probing yes 05:46 :) 05:47 so what to do with probing ? checking pet and what can i do else ? 05:47 <@shadowsapex> the wands that do nothing are pretty useless 05:47 you can use probing to see if a monster is carrying interesting items, but generally it's not very useful 06:00 Just lost a bunch of potions dropping on altar (forgot I was flying on black dragon) doh! 06:01 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:33162 06:04 okay 06:05 its out of charges 06:05 i should drop it ? 06:05 probably yes, charging is rare and using it on a wand of probing is probably a huge waste 06:06 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 06:07 ok 06:08 anyway i have stetoscope 06:08 stethoscope is like wand of probing ? 06:09 it's similar; you can use it once per turn without actually advancing in-game time, but it only works on things that are next to you 06:09 you can also use the stethoscope on yourself by hitting . on the direction prompt 06:10 i see 06:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:46518 06:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46519 06:10 can you help me and see my game ? 06:10 im stuck on that dlvl 06:10 and cant go futher 06:11 uhh one moment 06:12 did you search in that little corridor to the east of the southern room? maybe there's a secret corridor 06:12 yes 06:12 i search everything 06:12 well damn... then probably the only way forward is past that boulder 06:13 my guess is that there's a secret corridor behind the boulder and you therefore cannot move it 06:13 or maybe another boulder 06:13 so what can i do ? 06:13 you can try to stand next to the boulder and drop everything (including taking off your armor and dropping that), then you can move on the boulder and hopefully see why it won't move 06:13 damn 06:14 wtf why the heck are you read-identifying scrolls, doing that is basically like playing russian roulette 06:14 my fault 06:14 ;c 06:14 I mean, sure, one of them might have been teleport, but now you no longer have a cloak of displacement :( 06:14 ok ill play without it 06:14 my fault 06:15 so did you get past the boulder now? 06:16 yes 06:16 i dont know about that option 06:16 of droping everything 06:16 can help to push bolder 06:16 thanks :) 06:16 but 06:17 yeah once you have a pick-axe, you no longer need to do that, but it can come in handy 06:17 there is another boulder 06:17 i drop everything 06:17 but i cant push it... 06:17 can you look again ? 06:17 you still have a pair of gloves in your inventory 06:17 wait 06:17 i drop gloves 06:17 where are you playing ? 06:17 and i push it 06:17 ok its fine 06:17 rebatela: eu 06:17 search a few times, there's probably a hidden corridor that prevented the boulder from moving 06:17 ah ok 06:18 while standing on the boulder, that is 06:18 you can search in a spot mutiple times by typing like 20s, 10s etc 06:18 hit s a few times while standing on the boulder! as long as the corridor doesn't come into existence, you can't move the boulder 06:19 no corridor 06:19 wtf 06:19 what the heck did the dungeon generation algorithm do in your game??? 06:19 idk i playing regular tnnt 06:19 on server 06:19 well I guess you can explore the rest of the level and hopefully find a way back to the west part so you can get to your items 06:20 can i pick items if i stand next to them 06:20 ? 06:20 unfortunately not :( 06:20 ehh 06:20 so what to do ? 06:20 <@shadowsapex> kick all your items onto the square the boulder is 06:20 lol I guess that works :D 06:20 don't do it with fragile stuff like potions though 06:20 <@Demo> or heavy things like ring mail 06:21 <@shadowsapex> oh I just remembered you have 50 arrows this might not be a good idea 06:21 i cant kick all 06:21 arrows and gold 06:21 .. 06:22 shadowsapex so what to do ? 06:22 as I said, try to explore the east part of the level and with a little luck there will be another way back to the west that allows you to get back to the items 06:23 im doing that 06:23 <@shadowsapex> there's got to be a secret corridor there 06:23 where does that door to the west lead to? 06:23 <@shadowsapex> how many times did you search 06:24 LarienTelrunya: which doors ? 06:24 <@shadowsapex> I'd quit the game and retry 06:24 three to the west and one to the south of the regular downstair there is a door, try to open that ;) 06:24 or is my screen glitched and it displays a door where there is none? 06:24 heh, now just explore the north corridor again and you get your items back! 06:25 right ! :) 06:25 now that you have the level mapped, you no longer need to squeeze over the boulder 06:25 just pick up all the items 06:26 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 06:28 eh ;p 06:28 lest play next one :) 06:29 aww, rip :( 06:29 yeah, but was fun for me in that dungeon level ^^ 06:29 fun with you LarienTelrunya 06:29 and i learn something 06:30 ill play next, with cloeak of displacement ;p 06:30 :) 06:33 btw, can i check if somebody watch my play ? 06:33 yes, but you probably need a second terminal window for that where you go to the watch menu 06:34 connect with another terminal and check the w menu 06:34 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 06:34 I currently have 4 terminal windows: three for the various servers to see who's playing what, and one where I'm playing 06:35 hmm 06:35 ok second terminal window 06:35 but how to check who watching me then 06:35 ? 06:35 oh, I fear that's not possible, it only shows how many are watching 06:35 oh 06:35 there is "watchers" 06:35 ok 06:35 ok 06:37 LarienTelrunya: what is good option to identify potions ? 06:37 you can try to apply them, which will identify the potion of oil; you can try to dip darts into them, which will identify sickness and maybe some others; and you can try to dip the unicorn horn into them, which will identify most bad potions 06:38 <@shadowsapex> price identification 06:38 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 06:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:46955 06:38 <@shadowsapex> certain potions are thrown at you by monsters 06:39 <@shadowsapex> oh and you can break them to see their vapor effect but that's dangerous 06:39 ok thanks 06:40 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Client Quit] 06:40 can i try to dip arrows into them ? 06:40 yes 06:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:46970 06:41 i get message 06:41 Interesting... 06:41 <@shadowsapex> didnt work 06:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:46972 06:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46972 06:41 <@shadowsapex> don't get too anxious. just hold onto it 06:41 holt for what ? 06:42 <@shadowsapex> well, for when you can identify it some other way 06:42 <@shadowsapex> finding out what it is isn't really important right now 06:42 in what way ? 06:42 price ? 06:42 later on you'll have identify scrolls to find out what your stuff is 06:43 <@shadowsapex> aw shucks, you're in gnomish mines? wouldn't really recommend 06:44 <@shadowsapex> oh gosh did you just pick up that stone? 06:44 <@shadowsapex> could potentially be dangerous 06:44 i found gray stone, makes "scrich, scrich" when i rub by dagger, so its touch stone, for identifing gems ? 06:44 but im rub it on gems 06:44 and gems are that same what was before 06:44 <@shadowsapex> well, it has to be blessed to automatically identify the gems for you 06:44 <@shadowsapex> like that it just gives you clues 06:45 you never want to pick up un id'd gray stones 06:45 <@shadowsapex> and if the gems don't make colored streaks, they're worthless 06:45 why didnt recommended ? i want reach minetown, for identifing and rest 06:45 as long as you kick the gray stone first and it doesn't make "Thump!" it should be safe I think? 06:46 <@shadowsapex> grey stones could be loadstones 06:46 uniusz: one of the gray stones is the loadstone, which weighs a lot and makes you burdened, and it cannot be dropped once you pick it up 06:46 <@shadowsapex> super heavy, cursed, undroppable 06:46 <@shadowsapex> simple to check. just make sure your pet walks on it 06:46 <@shadowsapex> or kick it 06:46 <@shadowsapex> if it's safe it should go flying 06:46 i should use bow or dagger now ? 06:47 im kicking stones for check if not loadstone 06:47 so i know its safe 06:48 <@shadowsapex> since the level's dark you probably want the dagger in hand 06:48 and luckstone + blessing arrows help me to not waste them 06:49 <@shadowsapex> you'll be good on the arrow front for a while 06:49 <@shadowsapex> you know you should be careful of traps in the mines 06:51 shadowsapex so you say that i should use arrows now ? 06:52 <@shadowsapex> it depends on the situation 06:52 <@shadowsapex> use arrows against dangerous monsters 06:53 okay 06:53 but i want to save most of them till ill blessed them and get luckstone 06:53 <@shadowsapex> arrows are plentiful 06:54 <@shadowsapex> all you have to do is untrap arrow traps 06:54 <@shadowsapex> you'll get at least 30 of them 06:55 <@shadowsapex> you should pick up a few daggers and throw them 06:55 i see, thanks 06:55 what for throwing daggers btw ? 06:56 <@shadowsapex> as you skill up the dagger skill, it does a lot of damage 06:56 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:56 okay 06:56 and then i can take magicbane for my first weapon 06:56 <@shadowsapex> and you know, you don't have to do the whole switch to wielding the bow thing in order to do it 06:57 yeah 06:58 <@shadowsapex> I don't know about that. magicbane is neutral 06:58 yes, i read on wiki its good for ranger 06:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47071 06:59 <@shadowsapex> you're chaotic, right? 07:00 stormbringer? 07:00 yes 07:05 <@shadowsapex> aren't you going to get the armor? 07:05 hmm i put ring and no identify 07:05 right, armor... 07:06 <@shadowsapex> in that case, should probably take it off until you can identify it 07:06 <@shadowsapex> drop the spellbook 07:06 how to identify it ? 07:07 <@shadowsapex> price, scroll of id, sinks 07:07 <@shadowsapex> though with a sink you can't get it back 07:07 okay 07:07 i see 07:08 <@shadowsapex> eat, friend 07:08 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Kinnegad on T:35614 07:09 can of grease have one charge ? 07:09 <@shadowsapex> usually multiple 07:10 okay 07:10 <@shadowsapex> oh no it's cursed 07:11 <@shadowsapex> well, that'll wear off 07:11 what that mean ? 07:11 <@shadowsapex> your hands will be slippery for a while but it'll wear off 07:11 <@shadowsapex> well, grease isn't that useful for your current stage in the game 07:12 <@shadowsapex> oh no 07:12 <@shadowsapex> uh, pray 07:13 ok 07:13 what was that ? 07:13 <@shadowsapex> you got bitten by a wererat 07:13 <@shadowsapex> that was lycantropy 07:14 <@shadowsapex> if you can't kill werecreatures quick, fight them from a distance 07:14 okay 07:14 they are nasty 07:15 what about that can of grease 07:15 dont use that ? 07:15 <@shadowsapex> well, greasing your helmet and your cloak could come in handy far far later 07:15 <@shadowsapex> whether it's worth it is up to you 07:15 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) genocided vorpal jabberwocks dungeon wide on T:35866 07:16 <@shadowsapex> anyway you should probably start being careful with traps 07:16 <@shadowsapex> magic traps can be a real killer 07:16 <@shadowsapex> lower down you get polymorph traps 07:16 <@shadowsapex> mess up your entire day 07:17 ehh 07:17 <@shadowsapex> oh jeez 07:17 what to say 07:18 nevermind 07:18 <@shadowsapex> oh, future reference: mithril coat is the best early armor you can find 07:18 <@shadowsapex> dwarven 07:18 okay 07:18 i had it before 07:18 left there 07:18 thanks for help :) 07:18 <@shadowsapex> happy to 07:18 hmm maybe ill play next... 07:19 <@shadowsapex> you know, you don't strike me as a very patient player 07:20 <@shadowsapex> why play ranger? 07:20 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:50686 07:26 like 07:26 you want watch again ? 07:26 <@shadowsapex> sure 07:26 great, friend ! 07:26 ;) 07:27 so say, and enter... 07:27 :) 07:28 <@shadowsapex> try to let your pet kill things in the early game 07:28 yeah, im doing that 07:28 but later i want skill my dagger also 07:29 <@shadowsapex> oh, it's a magic whistle 07:29 <@shadowsapex> but cursed 07:29 <@shadowsapex> still good 07:30 what is purpose of cursed magic whistle ? 07:30 and how you know its cursed ? 07:30 <@shadowsapex> a magic whistle teleports your pets to you 07:30 <@shadowsapex> a cursed magic whistle fails half the time 07:31 <@shadowsapex> the 'high pitched humming' means cursed magic whistle 07:31 <@shadowsapex> anyways, magic whistles are majorly useful, so hold on to it 07:31 oh, okay, ill remember that 07:32 the high-pitched humming noise wakes up monsters I think? 07:32 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 13665 points, T:8270, killed by an arch-lich 07:32 <@shadowsapex> don't all whistles 07:33 <@shadowsapex> you can price identify your scrolls 07:33 yeah 07:33 lets do that 07:35 <@shadowsapex> the actual price is 200 07:35 <@shadowsapex> sell price is half 07:35 why ? 07:35 oh okay 07:35 <@shadowsapex> well anyway, you have a scroll of id 07:36 i dont know that 07:36 this can be different in that price 07:36 oh i have 07:36 only scroll of id cost 20 07:36 but what if its cursed ? 07:36 <@shadowsapex> yeah. 07:36 <@shadowsapex> that's not an issue 07:37 <@shadowsapex> cursed scrolls of id will just id fewer items 07:37 <@shadowsapex> with a minimum of 1 07:37 i dont want anything from that shop ? 07:37 <@shadowsapex> what's your charisma? 07:37 here is scroll of enhance armor/remove curse 07:37 you dont see ? 07:38 <@shadowsapex> I can't, my display is screwed up xD 07:38 but you see play ? 07:39 <@shadowsapex> mhm 07:39 charisma 8 07:39 <@shadowsapex> anyway, you should name the wands and scroll by price 07:39 <@shadowsapex> well in that case, the 80 scroll is probably enchant weapon 07:40 <@shadowsapex> oh by the way shift+c does the same thing as #name 07:40 thanks 07:40 <@shadowsapex> you have to adjust the price for your charisma 07:40 im naming it in good way ? 07:41 <@shadowsapex> I checked, the 80 scroll is guaranteed to be enchant weapon 07:41 <@shadowsapex> you're not naming the items by their actual price though 07:41 damn.. 07:41 <@shadowsapex> you need to decrease the purchase price by 3/4 to account for your charisma 07:42 <@shadowsapex> I didn't really see what happened O.o 07:42 nevermind 07:42 i forgot to not kick potions 07:42 and die 07:42 im opening next game 07:44 <@shadowsapex> honestly, I would really recommend a sturdy melee role 07:44 samurai is best role :D 07:45 i open new game 07:45 and have 1AC at start 07:45 nice 07:45 because found splint mail 07:45 <@shadowsapex> yeah, nice 07:45 do you join ? 07:45 <@shadowsapex> yeah 07:46 nice 07:46 -4 ring of gain consitution is good to take and sell or just drop ? 07:46 <@shadowsapex> yeah, selling's a good idea 07:47 damn 07:47 sirius is killed ;c 07:47 what to do ? 07:47 <@shadowsapex> I think you could keep going 07:48 where to found new pet ? 07:48 <@shadowsapex> take things more cautiously 07:48 <@shadowsapex> you usually have to be at around level 5 (?) or so before cats and dogs spawn 07:48 okay 07:48 then how to tame it ? 07:48 <@shadowsapex> throw any food 07:49 <@shadowsapex> except eggs, tins, and cream pies 07:49 <@shadowsapex> horses can be tamed with vegetarian food 07:49 okay 07:49 so its not that bad situation 07:49 that sirius get killed 07:50 <@shadowsapex> it's pretty bad 07:50 75gold for that shit ring :) 07:50 nice 07:50 ok pretty bad 07:50 but lets keep going 07:50 <@shadowsapex> oh a magic marker 07:50 <@shadowsapex> very good, but only in mid game 07:51 where ? 07:51 <@shadowsapex> careful with the shops, man. you'll run into mimics 07:51 magic maker ? 07:51 where ? 07:51 <@shadowsapex> somewhere. you ran over it 07:52 <@shadowsapex> you should sell the spellbook 07:55 -!- uniusz has quit [Quit: uniusz] 07:55 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 07:55 ok i back 07:55 something crashed 07:55 want to buy that scroll 120 for enchant cloak 07:55 good idea ? 07:57 <@shadowsapex> sure 07:57 what mean, when i zap wand nothing happens ? 07:58 <@shadowsapex> wand's out of charges 07:58 <@shadowsapex> or, well, it did nothing 07:58 so how to identify it 07:58 to shop 07:58 ill sell it 07:59 and ill sell spellbook of fireball 07:59 <@shadowsapex> it's a wand of secret door detection 07:59 cuz i cant get much skill as ranger in attack spells 07:59 right ? 07:59 <@shadowsapex> more like it's too high level for you right now 08:00 <@shadowsapex> no, not that one 08:00 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:51859 08:00 <@shadowsapex> that one's worthless 08:00 its blank 08:00 ... 08:00 for 120gold 08:00 <@shadowsapex> yeah. it's just blank 08:00 why 08:00 blank cost 120 ? 08:01 <@shadowsapex> dunno 08:01 i have 272 gold, i should buy something here ? 08:01 leather armor 08:01 <@shadowsapex> food ration 08:01 i have 6 tripe 08:02 ehh cursed 08:02 <@shadowsapex> oh. guess you can eat that 08:02 maybe i should start new game 08:02 with pet ? 08:02 <@shadowsapex> why don't you play a melee role, though? 08:02 i prefer that 08:03 ok 08:03 lets play last 08:03 okay ? 08:03 <@shadowsapex> sure 08:03 samurai :D 08:03 imho easiest role for a beginner 08:03 ok :) 08:04 im not that beginner 08:04 i play for a while 08:04 <@shadowsapex> my first ascension was a samurai 08:04 few years 08:05 like 3-4 years 08:05 i think about 3 08:05 but i have breaks of course 08:05 <@shadowsapex> hun, if you don't want to play an easier role, you're going to have to deal more cautiously and slowly in the game 08:05 <@shadowsapex> and you're not doing that. 's why you keep dying 08:05 now ill play more cautiosuly 08:05 :) 08:06 <@shadowsapex> you really are still in the learning process, so I would just suggest making things easier for yourself 08:06 <@shadowsapex> but well, you's you 08:07 shadowsapex what that output of wand engraving means ? 08:07 <@shadowsapex> striking 08:07 nice 08:07 i can use it for stronger monsters 08:08 <@shadowsapex> or boulders 08:08 but what if cursed ? 08:08 <@shadowsapex> cursed wands don't have bad effects 08:08 <@shadowsapex> just a chance to explode if used 08:08 <@shadowsapex> they're also very rarely cursed 08:08 i cant identify that potion now right ? 08:08 <@shadowsapex> yeah 08:10 what if dog yips ? 08:10 <@shadowsapex> it means nothing special 08:10 its in good form ? 08:10 <@shadowsapex> well, you can't tell hp from a pet's messages 08:10 <@shadowsapex> only hunger 08:11 <@shadowsapex> also clear potions are just water 08:11 that was holy water 08:11 okay 08:11 how you know rabetela ? 08:11 didn't they glow blue ? 08:11 <@shadowsapex> it blessed your arrows 08:11 i can't really see your game on my terminal 08:12 selling scroll for 10 means it cost 20 so its id scroll ? 08:12 why rebatela ? 08:12 <@shadowsapex> yeah 08:12 because the arrows glowed blue for a moment 08:12 it blessed them 08:12 <@shadowsapex> could have been cursed 08:12 okwhat ? 08:13 i think when you dip cursed into holy water it glows amber 08:13 <@shadowsapex> I mean it could have been unholy water. happy cursed arrows 08:13 <@shadowsapex> be careful. mimics 08:14 <@shadowsapex> the orange potion is 150 08:15 i named it in good way ? 08:15 <@shadowsapex> juice/see invis/booze are 50 08:15 <@shadowsapex> oh one of the scrolls is scare monster 08:15 <@shadowsapex> don't pick up any scrolls 08:16 <@shadowsapex> find the one that makes your pet run away when you stand on it and name it 08:16 what ? 08:16 what for ? 08:16 what should i do you say ? 08:16 and what about that potion ? 08:17 <@shadowsapex> why do you suddenly not want to do what i say? -_- 08:17 <@shadowsapex> anyway, because scare monster can crumble to dust if you pick it up 08:17 <@shadowsapex> and the shopkeep will make you pay 08:17 <@shadowsapex> also because they're really useful 08:17 so what should i do 08:17 <@shadowsapex> also just name the potion 150 08:17 what is 150 ? 08:18 <@shadowsapex> its price 08:18 <@shadowsapex> you can't identify it right now 08:18 <@shadowsapex> it's a note for later 08:18 <@shadowsapex> and stand on every scroll until your pet flees 08:18 ok 08:18 he pick up everything 08:18 not flees 08:19 this one i think 08:19 <@shadowsapex> it's not 08:19 eh ok 08:19 so which one ? 08:19 <@shadowsapex> eh. it's not a big deal 08:20 how to cancel it 08:20 <@shadowsapex> scare monster should have a price of 133 for you 08:21 i dont see 08:21 any 08:21 of that price 08:21 ok 08:21 ill go 08:21 from that shoo 08:21 shop 08:21 my pet dont flee from scroll of cos 133 08:22 <@shadowsapex> mm 08:22 im going futher 08:22 <@shadowsapex> eat tho 08:22 scroll of price 100 08:22 what it is 08:23 that means the base price is 200 08:23 <@shadowsapex> could be half a dozen things 08:23 <@shadowsapex> get the scroll of id 08:23 it could be a scroll of amnesia so you definitely don't want to read it unidentified 08:24 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 08:24 <@shadowsapex> man, you don't have to be so anxious about identifying everything as soon as you pick it up 08:24 ok i identified 08:24 oh, sorry 08:24 <@shadowsapex> most things aren't useful anyway 08:24 ok lets go futher 08:24 <@shadowsapex> don't apologize to me, it's your game 08:25 congrats on the gh ascension, jilles! That variant is no picnic. 08:25 <@shadowsapex> oh by the way lichens are permanent food 08:26 yeah 08:26 <@shadowsapex> you know one of these days if you keep dipping into random potions you're going to wind up with all your arrows polymorphed 08:26 oh 08:26 <@shadowsapex> I'd leave potions alone 08:26 what u mean by leave potions alone ? 08:27 what to do with them ? 08:27 <@shadowsapex> well, they're hard to identify and not too useful early game 08:27 <@shadowsapex> I lug them around until they get too heavy 08:27 <@shadowsapex> and wait for a chance to formal identify them 08:27 formal identify them ? when and how ? 08:27 <@shadowsapex> scroll 08:28 I say something slightly different 08:28 <@shadowsapex> you can tell some things by price 08:28 <@shadowsapex> the important ones are 300 08:28 <@shadowsapex> 50 is worthless 08:28 <@shadowsapex> 250 is acid or oil 08:28 for the special case that you're playing an orcish ranger, potions of sickness will be quite useful to dip arrows into 08:28 usually I use throwaway weapons for dip-testing potions, so if it is polymorph I don't lose anything important 08:28 <@shadowsapex> okay, 50 is worthless except for sickness 08:29 <@shadowsapex> but they're hard to tell apart 08:29 so if a potion has base price 50, do dip arrows and not throwaway weapons 08:29 i should drink smoky potion ? 08:29 <@shadowsapex> random note, smoky potions have a slight chance of granting you a wish 08:29 <@shadowsapex> but you still shouldn't quaff unidentified! 08:29 so i should drink it ? 08:29 <@shadowsapex> noo 08:30 so what to do with it ? 08:30 <@shadowsapex> hold 08:30 ok, until udentify 08:30 Tangles, thanks; especially the early game is harder 08:30 <@shadowsapex> you used your other id scroll already? 08:31 jilles: wow you ascended grunthack! you'd probably have the skill to ascend slex too :D 08:31 yeah 08:31 <@shadowsapex> I'd save them for important things like rings and high price potions/scrolls 08:31 <@shadowsapex> rings aren't that important actually I just like them 08:31 <@Tone> 'grats jilles 😄 08:32 <@shadowsapex> oh, and amulets. definitely worth using a scroll to id 08:32 <@shadowsapex> anyway never put on an amulet unless you're damn sure it's uncursed 08:33 i'd say rings are pretty important. most of them are useless though 08:33 rings are great to polypile for the good ones 08:33 it was cursed 08:33 so i sell it 08:33 <@shadowsapex> most of the important ones identify themselves 08:33 <@Tone> @shadowsapex People on irc can't see your strikethroughs :P 08:33 <@shadowsapex> name it first 08:34 i need found scroll of remove curse 08:34 <@shadowsapex> my strikethroughs aren't that important 08:34 the minor issue with rings is everyone wants a ring that's always useful, not situationally useful. but most rings are only situationally useful 08:34 <@shadowsapex> the amulets that have a high chance of being cursed are the bad ones 08:34 name what ? for price or what 08:34 <@shadowsapex> so name it as possibly bad 08:34 <@shadowsapex> amulets share the same price 08:35 one of the issues with rings is that the ones granting resistances are completely useless once you have the resistances intrinsically 08:36 anyone here can be remove curse ? 08:37 <@shadowsapex> why 08:37 <@shadowsapex> don't you have your pet test these 08:37 <@shadowsapex> well, it shouldn't be an issue right now 08:38 ok 08:38 what should i do now ? 08:38 just go futher 08:38 <@shadowsapex> yeah 08:40 :) 08:40 to mines ! ;) 08:40 <@shadowsapex> why?? 08:40 <@shadowsapex> you're level 2 why mines? 08:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] shottyscotty (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 791 points, T:1489, killed by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:41 <@shadowsapex> you should explore the main dungeon and come back when you're stronger 08:41 i want to reach minetown 08:41 <@shadowsapex> the way to do that is to stay in the main dungeon and get stronger first 08:42 why im burdened ? 08:42 <@shadowsapex> drop the other leather armor 08:42 ok ill do what you say :) 08:43 friend 08:43 so get reach oracle 08:43 <@shadowsapex> eat dude 08:43 <@shadowsapex> you do read game messages, right? 08:43 always forgot xd 08:44 <@shadowsapex> you're rushing so bad xD 08:44 sorry ^^ 08:44 now i should kill more 08:44 or still let dog ? 08:44 <@shadowsapex> well, you can definitely take a newt 08:44 <@shadowsapex> but say a group of monsters, you should fall back to your pet 08:44 <@shadowsapex> eat 08:45 <@Tone> !who 08:45 @Tone: [hdf-us] rebatela [tnnt] oh6 [tnnt] | [hdf-eu] uniusz [tnnt] Graznop [nh362] spontiff [zapm] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:46 i should drink smoky potion if its uncursed ? 08:46 <@shadowsapex> no 08:47 damn 08:47 ;c 08:47 bat 08:47 <@shadowsapex> well, I think imma have to go now 08:47 im also 08:47 i ill back here in 1.5h 08:47 seeya 08:47 o/ 08:48 <@shadowsapex> right. good luck ascending someday! 08:48 <@shadowsapex> you know I have an idea 08:48 <@shadowsapex> there are lets plays out there 08:48 -!- uniusz is now known as uniusz_away 08:48 <@shadowsapex> you should watch them/read them. get some strategies and advice 08:48 sure ! :) 08:48 thanks for time 08:49 <@shadowsapex> bye! 08:49 sure 08:49 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:53359 08:49 you can watch me in another time also 08:49 its nice to play with your advices 08:49 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53363 08:49 :) 08:49 ok bye 08:50 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:53370 08:50 <@shadowsapex> well I'm glad it's nice as opposed to me being a totally controlling tyrant xD 08:51 it was very nice 08:51 :) 08:51 simpler 08:52 ok we will see ourself in next time 08:52 seeya 08:52 o/ 08:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 40 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:46066 08:59 bah. just remembered i have asmodeus running around somewere 09:00 Eh, he's a bad joke 09:00 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:00 i know but i'm getting amulet. just don't feel like deeling with him w/rodney etc 09:01 Dug your paths yet? 09:01 it's cool. i just forgot all about him til i saw that bribe message 09:01 yeah. i'm in sanctum (not playing. just saved) 09:02 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 118 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:46349 09:02 I think I've sometimes just forgot to murder them 09:02 well, he teleported away and then i couldn't find him 09:02 it's happened before but he always appears as i'm running up, and then you can't levelport w/out dropping amulet 09:02 which makes it harder to come down on the stiars 09:03 it's not the end of the world. but i like to kill him first soo i don't have to deal when i'm dealing with wiz 09:06 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53379 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 207 points, T:456, killed by a gnome 09:08 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:53476 09:08 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:53478 09:14 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54018 09:19 will he follow me through the portal to earth plane ? (asmodeus) 09:20 he showed up on like dl7 09:20 i guess i'll just kill him on dl1 lol 09:20 can't run upstairs. duh 09:20 or will he? I guess that's my question 09:21 hm i back 09:21 i though that i must go but i dont 09:22 so play more games ! ^^ 09:22 rebatela: sorry i dont know answer for u question ;p 09:23 rebatela: I suspect Asmodeus will follow if adjacent, but it's probably best to test in wizard mode 09:23 hey, admins can change my nick/login ? K2 or somebody ? 09:24 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:24 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:47438 09:25 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:25 well i'm not afraid of him following so much. Because I'm going to kill him on DL1 if he doesn't run up the stairs. I don't think he can 09:25 i think that's how you're supposed to kill him 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3155 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3300 09:37 strange, pet pick up item and it was cursed... 09:39 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:48014 09:39 what was the item? they won't pick up cursed stuff 09:39 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (arch-lich), on T:48020 09:40 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:54426 09:42 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48140 09:42 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48141 09:44 canonial hat rebatela 09:44 yeah they wont but they did ;p 09:45 no that was a dunce cap and they autocurse 09:45 <[Demo]> oh i thought you were saying canonical hat like red hat and canonical merged into some mega demon 09:46 i knew it was something strange because pets will not do that 09:46 (it wasn't cursed when the pet had it. it curses when you put it on ) 09:46 oh i see 09:46 thanks for tip 09:46 :) 09:46 no problem. that's a really rare case 09:46 but yeah, don't try on canonical hats 09:46 ok 09:46 "Conical" 09:47 canonical hats ship with ubuntu 18.04 LTS 09:47 they are useless anyway unless you are a wizard (in which case, cornuthaaum is good) 09:47 lol 09:47 i'm trying to remember what that is (I run mint now). It's like a help function or something ? 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4660 09:48 ubuntu is an OS 09:48 i know 09:48 but what is canonical ? 09:48 Canonical is the organisation that develops Ubuntu 09:48 oh right 09:50 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:54539 09:50 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54539 09:51 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54565 09:52 i get hallu 09:52 what can i do now ? 09:52 can some help me with advice ? 09:53 apply a unicorn horn 09:53 K2: Messages from @Luxidream and Chansu have been forwarded to you privately. 09:53 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:54647 09:53 i dont have K2 09:54 <[Demo]> wield grayswandir 09:54 i dont have xd 09:54 <[Demo]> wait til it goes away 09:54 im XP1, Dlvl4 09:54 ^^ 09:55 ok im waiting 09:55 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 09:55 By the way, K2, can you change abit my nick/name/login ? 09:55 !tell Chansu your game has been recovered, and the bug that caused your game to panic has been fixed. if you have any further issues please let me know. 09:55 Will do, K2! 09:55 ^ oh6 this addresses your issue in tnnt also 09:55 <[Demo]> what was broken? 09:56 https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/commit/8cdb182890d5c33dcc0eacd60c8426102b9a9a0a 09:56 a merge I did awhile ago 09:56 somehow those braces went away 09:56 but the game still compiled, and I dont recall seeing any errors about it 09:57 <[Demo]> yikes 09:57 @Luxidream Chansu's game is recovered 09:57 <[Demo]> thanks for actually running testing on tnnt before tnnt 09:58 <@Luxidream> I was demonstrating the power of !tell 09:58 can you K2 ? 09:58 ah 09:58 uniusz_away maybe 09:59 i am leary of editing the dgl database to change a username 09:59 just register a new nick 09:59 K2 thanks 09:59 so you cant ? 09:59 i can technically, but i'm not sure i want to 10:00 please 10:00 i dont know if it will break dgl 10:00 and that affects everyone 10:00 i dont think this can break dgl 10:00 just make a new id unusz 10:00 just register a new account 10:00 but then i must make new email 10:00 etc 10:00 .. 10:00 dgl doesnt care what you put in for an email account 10:01 you could use 1@2.com for all it cares 10:01 no, it doesn't even need a veryify link. just put an email address 10:01 but i want put my real address 10:01 uniusz_away: so put your real address. It doesn't have to be unique. 10:02 ok 10:02 -!- uniusz_away has quit [Quit: uniusz_away] 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2090 points, T:5834, killed by a jackal 10:03 [Demo] yeah i'm a big believer in beta testing 10:03 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 10:03 Does Beholder have the same functionality as DCSS's Sequell in knowing two nicks are the same and merging their results for reporting on winrates etc? 10:03 and the more people on it, the greater chance of discovering issues sooner rather than later 10:03 hmm 10:03 Larien 10:03 are you here 10:04 Pinkbeast I dont think so, but Tangles could better answer that question than I 10:04 Mind you I dunno how much Beholder can report on winrates etc 10:04 K2 pls 10:05 uniusz no. i'm not going to directly edit the dgl database 10:05 especially this close to a big event 10:06 what's wrong with your existing account? 10:06 whats the issue 10:06 <@Luxidream> is it really that hard to make an alt 10:06 Pinkbeast: Not very much. It just scrapes the xlogfile, and keeps some basic stats on eachc player. It's all just stored in internal hashes. No database. 10:06 in fact it is incredibly easy to make an alt 10:07 <[Demo]> so easy infact i have like 5 or something oops 10:07 * aosdict still hasn't switched hardfought signin back from aosdictj to aosdict after junethack 10:07 <[Demo]> and 5 partial dnh games 10:08 Tangles: Ah, pity, although Sequell's extensive facilities let one commit all kinds of naive errors :-) 10:08 <@Luxidream> Should have more variants with multiple saves 10:08 K2 why ? it not broke 10:09 <@Luxidream> Is there a reason why local vanilla nethack lets you have multiple saves and name entry 10:09 <@Luxidream> but server removes both of these 10:09 uniusz I gave you my explanation. dont bug me about it 10:09 K2 ok no then no 10:09 that name is ok 10:09 Luxidream: It does that only in situations where there's only one user using it (MSDOS etc); there's no protection against people scribbling on each other's saves 10:11 mold is permament food ? 10:11 no go bad ? 10:11 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:55109 10:12 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:55120 10:13 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:55147 10:13 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:55170 10:14 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:55183 10:14 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Shan Lai Ching, on T:55206 10:15 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:55210 10:15 <@Tone> rebatela: I think monsters used to escape from dlvl1 to the plane of earth but this bug was fixed relatively recently. I'm not sure about followers though. 10:15 <@Luxidream> I see the problem with multiple saves 10:15 <@Luxidream> Not sure about name entry though 10:16 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2429664 points, T:55255, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/tnnt/dumplog/1539253736.tnnt.txt 10:16 nice rebatela 10:16 congrats 10:16 thanks man 10:16 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Price_identification#Identifying_scrolls 10:16 thanks for running all of this !! 10:16 those prices are for sell ? 10:17 For vanilla and variants that haven't changed it, your name is you. you wouldn't want me to naively start choosing Luxidream as my character name and start messing up your ascension ratio, would you? 10:17 Luxidream: Well, on a multiuser system normally you can use any name; your savefile is tied to your account. DGL keeps every savefile under the same user account, so it's one system user with many saves. The obvious way to tie a savefile to a particular user is their DGL username. 10:18 <@Luxidream> My ascension ratio is trash 10:18 <@Tone> 'grats rebatela 😄 10:18 <@Luxidream> I doubt you’d be able to do much damage 10:19 <@Demo> luxi means like nitrohack 10:19 OK, pick Tariru then. You don't want a random person to name themselves Tariru and break the streak 10:19 <@Luxidream> but yeah, I see what you mean 10:19 in vanilla there is no concept of the account name versus the character name like in nitro 10:20 <@Demo> yeah add it 10:20 <@Luxidream> It sounds like Amy had a pretty hard time implementing name entry for her NH3 based variant 10:20 <@Demo> as part of the hdf part of 361hdf 10:20 aosdict: That's not quite true 10:21 <@Luxidream> demo you should steal it from Amy 10:21 <@Luxidream> Once it comes out 10:21 <@Demo> it probably isn't stable 10:22 <@Demo> unlike amy I don't like snagging up people's shit until it is reasonably tested 10:22 <@Demo> where as amy lives and dies on the bleeding edge 10:22 <@Demo> which although sounds more fun probably leads to more issues down the road 10:22 <@Luxidream> Well I broke nh4 name entry once 10:23 <@Luxidream> so I don’t doubt there will be problems 10:23 <@Demo> by ascending too many times? :P 10:23 <@Demo> do we know if Amy's thing allows for multiple saves under one dgl acc? 10:24 <@Demo> and how much it breaks autorecover? 10:24 <@Luxidream> bassbasskickkickbasskickkick the monk crashed the game at one point 10:24 BRB, starting "DROP TABLES;" the valkyrie 10:26 <@Luxidream> !who 10:26 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] oh6 [tnnt] | [hdf-eu] uniusz [tnnt] docholi [nh362] Graznop [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:26 !who 10:26 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] oh6 [tnnt] | [hdf-eu] uniusz [tnnt] docholi [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:27 were you really exppecting that to be that much more different from luxidream's results? 10:27 yes, if pinkbeast starts a game 10:29 A straightforward vanilla-ish implementation of character name choice would probably *not* involve multiple saves per character, because that's a big can of worms. 10:31 yasi: have bhaak's variant renamed to netbhaak 10:33 its good for ranger to use broad pick or not ? 10:33 unnetbhaak 10:36 I'm assuming the scores will reset on 11/1 ? (I don't plan on start-scumming when it starts, but i really wanted a marker ;) ) 10:36 "The engraving on the ground vanishes!" - what want ? 10:37 uniusz: that means it's either make invisible, teleport, or cancel wand 10:37 The wiki is extremely helpful if you don't mind being spoiled (doesn't seem like you do) 10:37 (for stuff like that ) 10:39 i see 10:39 i dont make myself invisible 10:39 startscumming is ok as per the rules 10:39 so maybe cancelation 10:39 i usually name the wand "short van" etc. in that case to help identify it 10:39 oh its invisible 10:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:39 how long ill be invisible ? 10:39 forever 10:39 then you can look at your identified stuff and eliminate which it might be 10:40 But in the future, it can be dangerous to just zap at yourself because it might be cancel 10:41 eh 10:41 it was fault i made myself invisible 10:41 and die 10:42 yeah, I was going to say it's ok to try out unkwon scrolls and potions and wands and stuff, but be prepared to die a lot 10:42 but lets try again to take this amulet ! ^^ 10:42 no, something zapped you with a wand of striking 10:42 it's better to wait until yo uknow what things are 10:42 that wasn't because you made yourself invisible 10:42 i made myself invisible 10:42 my pet stay in shop 10:42 shopkepper stay at doors 10:42 not let me dog out 10:42 being invisible is good, but you usually want to make sure you've found a mummy wrapping first or they wont' let you in shops 10:42 i kick doors, shopkepper kills me 10:43 all the story ^^ 10:43 rebatela: It's not always good (it diminishes the effect of displacement) 10:43 it's because you were invisible 10:43 i must be more careful this time 10:43 no cry, lets try 10:43 im saying %% 10:43 ^^ 10:44 Pinkbeast: yeah, I meant to say usually good 10:51 what to do with statues ? 10:52 either ignore them, or break them (at least if you're below dungeon level 3) to see if there's a spellbook inside 10:54 okay 10:54 60 messages is max what can i see back ? 10:55 I think so 10:55 you can set it in options file i think up to 200 10:55 oh and about statues, you can also cast stone to flesh on them to get a live monster 10:55 oh I thougt vanilla was only 60 (I have it at 60) 10:56 it might be 10:56 i'm probably wrong 10:56 quest along those lines- I can't seem to watch other's game's sometimes when they have different screen size ? 10:56 so 60 or 200 ? 10:57 rebatela: This is inevitable and there isn't much to be done about it except make your screen their size 10:57 <@Tone> pressing r will usually fix that rebatela 10:57 ah ok cooll. i just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something lol. I know about pressing 's'. wasn't sure about resizing 10:57 <@Tone> it attempts to resize your screen 10:57 sweet! 10:57 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG I'm not sure if you got my previous msgs re: holy water & asmo gold, did you? I can't find a response or the bot sending them in the log 10:57 Will do, @rikersan! 10:58 Top tip: play in an absurdly hugeterm to stop annoying people spying on your games :-) 10:58 Might still be in the bot? 10:58 Chris_ANG: Message from @rikersan at 2018-10-13 10:57 EDT: I'm not sure if you got my previous msgs re: holy water & asmo gold, did you? I can't find a response or the bot sending them in the log 10:58 haha 10:58 Guess not 10:58 <@rikersan> hm ok 10:58 <@rikersan> I guess not then 10:58 I'll check Discord 10:58 <@rikersan> k 10:58 <@Demo> wait is it a real issue 10:58 <@rikersan> just search !tell Chris_ANG in this channel 10:58 <@rikersan> what, holy water? it's actually bugged 10:59 OPTIONS=pickup_types:! 10:59 this doesnt work 10:59 pinkbeast: yeah i get kind of anxious when i know others are watching. But the worst is when someone keeps saying "Why'd you do THAT??" "You should NEVER do bla bla without foo first"!! 10:59 <@rikersan> asmo gold? not an issue just a suggestion spawned by my misinterpretation 10:59 I watch people and think those things, but never say them 10:59 to auto pickup to auto pickup potions 10:59 OPTIONS=pickup_types:! 10:59 this dont work 10:59 <@rikersan> I thought asmo was only bribeable with 90k gold 10:59 <@rikersan> which actually makes wayyy more sense to me 10:59 so how to set this ? 10:59 <@rikersan> cuz he's the lord of nessus and highest of the nine 11:00 heh. in vanilla you can bribe him with 1 gold 11:00 <@Demo> I'll beat him with a nine iron 11:00 <@rikersan> exactly 11:00 <@Tone> uniusz You have to have autopickup on, and that will only set the default for a new game I believe 11:00 <@rikersan> in dnh he was buffed to at least 9k 11:00 <@rikersan> I think it should be more kek 11:00 <@ChrisANG> Oh yeah, I did get those 11:00 uniusz: You have to turn autopickup on (you can toggle this with '@') 11:00 <@rikersan> oh ok not sure why discord isn't showing them cool cool 11:00 <@ChrisANG> 99k might be better 11:00 -!- phinxy has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:00 <@rikersan> ya 11:01 <@rikersan> I like 90k-99k 11:01 <@ChrisANG> The 9k thing was picked at random 11:01 Tangles: ok thanks 11:01 <@rikersan> takes as much effort to bribe him as it does to fight him 11:01 Bribe him and he can't show you all the upstairs 11:01 <@rikersan> like have you tried carrying 90k gold? you're strained I think, even when I had the blessed tiedye iirc 11:01 Tangles: but i get that its turn on for $ objects objects only 11:01 ... 11:02 <@ChrisANG> He can rip your head off in dnh XD 11:02 well then maybe setting in the config file only affects new games like Tone said. 11:02 <@ChrisANG> Also, fewer mazes by far. 11:02 <@rikersan> pinkbeast: lol not an issue in dnh 11:02 <@rikersan> not nearly as many mazes 11:03 <@rikersan> and asmo is incredibly dangerous now, equal to the (now stoning-resistant and vorpal) demogorgon 11:03 uniusz: you can set it in-game via the options menu - shift-O 11:03 rikersan: Also in practice when I try that I accidentally kill him half the time 11:03 <@rikersan> lol 11:03 <@rikersan> yeah no not an issue here 11:03 <@Tone> 😄 11:04 <@rikersan> on this apply, he has -104 AC and 1584 hp 11:04 ok 11:04 now i get info 'with some exceptions' 11:05 <@rikersan> compared to 148 and -7 11:05 <@Tone> How do you even hit something with -104 AC 11:05 A monster with 148 AC and -7 HP doesn't sound oh wait never mind 11:05 <@rikersan> tone: you don't. 11:05 <@Luxidream> Does vorpal work on him tho 11:05 <@rikersan> no lol why would it 11:05 He's got a head 11:06 <@rikersan> there is one binder spirit that does tho iirc, it has a 10% of instakilling him 11:06 <@rikersan> yeah but in dnh vorpal only decapitates humanoid large and below I think 11:06 uniusz: You can see what exceptions you have set as well through the options menu. 11:06 damn 11:06 exception is for not pickup 11:06 <@rikersan> he's no longer humanoid I believe 11:06 ... 11:06 [hdf-us] [tnnt] satori (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:42, killed by a fox 11:07 <@rikersan> @Tone in practice his AC is a random number between 0 and -99 I believe, but yeah still unhittable 2/3 of th e time 11:07 nevermind 11:07 uniusz: pickup_types and autopickup_exceptions both contol what you pick up, but if you just want to pick up all potions, set it in pickup_types. 11:07 <@rikersan> I believe somebody did the math and you need at least like 10d10 damage every x turns or so as well, cuz of his cure wounds spells 11:07 <@rikersan> > Note the presence of Cure Self on Asmodeus's spell list. In order to do lasting damage to the Lord of the Nine, the character must do more than 10d8 damage for every 9 turns, on average. 11:08 <@Luxidream> Now that he has vorpal you pretty much shouldn’t fight him yeah 11:08 <@rikersan> I believe chris is actually mistaken there, unless the pokedex is wrong only demo has vorpal 11:09 <@rikersan> asmo's real threat is a passive demon-spawning attack, basically you're mobbed anytime you damage him 11:09 <@rikersan> demo's vorpal attack doesn't just bisect either, it starts with destroyign body armor but ya 11:10 <@Luxidream> oh it’s armor shred 11:10 <@rikersan> ya 11:10 and if you're not wearing any armor any more, it's you-shred? 11:10 <@rikersan> indeed 11:11 <@rikersan> luxi: it's the same as bebeliths I believe, if you're familiar with those 11:11 Crikey, and I thought Spork was harsh 11:11 <@rikersan> but anyway yeah don't try to do the asmo cheese save that for juiblex or something idk 11:11 <@rikersan> grunt, slex, and dnh are probably the 'hardest' variants out there as of now 11:11 <@Luxidream> you’re not op in spork 11:11 <@rikersan> in dnh, the player is hugely OP, but it's still an uphill battle 11:12 <@rikersan> more similar to something like final fantasy (which chris really just ripped off in some bits) where the player gets super powerful, but so do the monsters 11:13 <@Luxidream> spork is actually hard though 11:13 <@Luxidream> have you played it rikersan 11:13 <@rikersan> yea 11:13 <@rikersan> not a ton tho 11:13 <@rikersan> I haven't played anything other than dnh and slex very much 11:13 [hdf-us] [tnnt] satori (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 187 points, T:667, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:15 what's OP ? Over powered/ 11:15 ? 11:15 <@Luxidream> Yes 11:15 Octopode. 11:15 <@Luxidream> Grunts difficulty curve goes way down after the first wish 11:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:16 <@rikersan> really? grunt is one of the varints I haven't really tried, along with 4k 11:16 I've never really played any variants other than trying for a few minutes. Plan to start after vanilla tourney though 11:16 Seem extremely cool 11:16 <@Luxidream> Once you have your dragonhide MR cloak 11:16 <@Luxidream> of reflection 11:17 when i see people wish for some of the stuff i'm like "whoa i need to play these games!" 11:17 @rikersan: join clan hsj *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 11:17 <@rikersan> no 11:17 <@rikersan> maybe later 11:18 <@Luxidream> too busy to play? 11:18 you're one of us, we need you! 11:18 <@Luxidream> I feel like I won’t be able to play as much this year 11:18 I thought rikersan was ootc 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 978 points, T:1914, killed by a little dog 11:19 <@Luxidream> Didn’t he play for srn during jnh? 11:19 LarienTelrunya: (re techniques). Oh. But you basically rebased SLASH'EM onto nh 3.4.3, right? 11:20 Chris_ANG: uhh no, dnhslex doesn't have techniques at all 11:20 Nethack, not dNethack 11:20 <@rikersan> I did yes 11:20 huh? I have no business with vanilla nethack 3.4.3... 11:20 <@rikersan> I don't like vanilla that much :p 11:21 <@rikersan> hey chris can you wizmode test something real quick 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) wished for "the holy greased magic marker named Yes even though I'm blind lol", on T:69585 11:21 Sure 11:21 <@rikersan> try starting a clck bard game, wishing a blessed surya deva fig, and then applying it 11:21 <@rikersan> I'm getting segfaults but I modified the code, but this is consistent with my other segfualts on pet creation 11:21 [Demo]: slex alias names don't allow you to have several games under one account, basically there's just an extra variable that stores your alias name and everything that displays the character name in-game uses that instead of your account name 11:22 however, shopkeepers still store the account name for the purpose of remembering whom they hate in a bones file :P 11:23 <@Luxidream> LarienTelrunya: will the alias name be the one livelogged? 11:23 LarienTelrunya: Am I just confused? I thought SLEX was now basically rebased to 3.4 despite having descended from SLASH'EM, which was based on... some earlier vanilla version. 11:23 Chris_ANG: slex was never rebased to anything, it's still fundamentally SLASH'EM and will stay so 11:24 <@rikersan> not everybody likes reflagging EVERYTHING chris :p 11:24 @rikersan: no segfault 11:24 @Luxidream: currently not I think, but I guess I can change that, would need to double check 11:24 <@rikersan> hm ok I'm not getting it anymore :/ I didn't change anything just #quit and tried again lmao 11:24 LarienTelrunya: Ah, confused, then. 11:24 actually, it would be best to have it the way it is in nh4, so that it displays the alias name and then in brackets the account name 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) wished for "the holy greased rustproof +3 hawaiian shirt", on T:69603 11:25 like this: [hdf-us] [slex] sweetheartbundlemaster (Luxidream) (Kur Win Fem Law), 1000 points, T:200, ascended to a higher plane of existence 11:26 <@rikersan> actually hold up chris did you try making a tame one 11:26 <@rikersan> wait hold up 11:26 <@rikersan> try genesising a tame one 11:26 The first figurine came out tame, the second came out hostile 11:26 <@rikersan> hm 11:26 <@rikersan> try genesis 11:26 No crash 11:27 <@rikersan> what 11:27 <@rikersan> well I can get a crash :/ trying to lldb it now 11:28 hello LarienTelrunya o/ 11:28 <@rikersan> annddd it doesnt' work in lldb :( 11:28 Also, thing from ages ago: 11:28 If you name a surya deva's dancing sword, and the sword dies, 11:29 the name is passed on to the large two-handed sword that it leaves as a "corpse" 11:29 <@rikersan> wait now I can :D 11:29 <@rikersan> ohhh cool that makes sense 11:30 <@rikersan> and it still counts as taking them with me to the demigod bar? 11:30 I guess so? 11:30 <@rikersan> cuz that happened lol and I don't think you can resurrect the dancing blade 11:31 Also, huh, 11:31 I just realized: I wonder how that would handle being given an artifact name. 11:31 <@rikersan> aight got a coredump from the crashy thing 11:31 <@rikersan> lol 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:70255 11:32 <@rikersan> https://paste.ee/p/1jfVw 11:32 [hdf-us] [tnnt] satori (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 410 points, T:885, killed by a little dog 11:32 <@rikersan> chris that was just after I hit enter on "tame surya deva" at the genesis menu 11:33 "m - an obsidian two-handed sword named Sol Valtiva" 11:33 <@rikersan> is it hte actual artifact? 11:33 Yup, was re-sized from Large to normal and turned obsidian. 11:34 <@rikersan> figs seem to work fine btw chris 11:34 <@rikersan> huh 11:34 <@rikersan> wait so I could just like go onto the plane of fire 11:34 <@rikersan> and name that dancing blade that 11:34 That's just crazy enough to leave 11:34 <@rikersan> lol 11:34 It has to be one of the actual two-handed sword artifacts, so it's not TOO bad 11:35 <@rikersan> lol 11:35 <@rikersan> ok 11:35 i have an issue, now i dont have autopickup options for cash 11:35 idk why 11:36 Oh.... 11:36 for sec i mark $ by # but i undo this 11:36 That's on the dev branch 11:36 And yeah, that'd crash. 11:36 <@rikersan> doens't work with the atlantean royal sword fwiw 11:37 uniusz: apparently you only have autopickup for ! (potions) 11:37 ARS is new, are you sure it's in your branch? 11:37 [hdf-us] [tnnt] cassiopeiastar (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 30 points, T:292, killed by a jackal 11:38 also, I guess that since my long-running slex character perished today at about 57k turns in... I'll probably actually play tnnt 11:38 It's Cleaver, but a two-handed sword. 11:38 <@rikersan> yeah it's there 11:38 <@rikersan> I was trying for a sacrifice minion to test something earlier 11:38 The Barbarian first gift will now be coordinated with their starting kit. Huh.... 11:39 <@rikersan> and I got that as my first gift for a clck bard 11:39 <@rikersan> ya I noticed the code, I like that change 11:39 <@rikersan> is cleaver still getting the buff? and will it apply to the ARS as wlel? 11:39 LarienTelrunya: Like, you'll join the beta test, or you'll play in the actual tournament? 11:40 or both? 11:40 <@Demo> the beta test 11:40 <@Demo> she has a clan so she's actually gonna play in the real tournament 11:40 uniusz: You set pickup_types to ! in your config file? You need to set to $! if you want coins and potions. or $!?= if you want coins, potions, scrolls, and rings, you get the idea. 11:40 <@rikersan> yeah it's not working with ARS chris, tried with both the ARS and just ARS 11:40 <@rikersan> works fine with sol valtiva tho 11:40 <@rikersan> lol 11:41 aosdict: both, but since the actual tournament didn't start yet I'm playtesting, and hoping that one day the hdf-eu games are also tracked :D 11:41 <@rikersan> hey chris houchou should never miss right? 11:41 Works on Genocide 11:41 I didn't know if you were planning to not play in the tournament for some reason 11:41 In theory, yeah. 11:42 Can you houchou a shade? 11:42 However, I would not be suprised to learn that there is a bug with houchou, bc its kinda hacky. 11:42 <@rikersan> missed a dancing blade kek 11:42 <@rikersan> worked fine on GC tho 11:42 @rikersan: dancing blades are motherfuckers, one of those was in fact the thing that ended my slex run today :(( 11:43 what the hell are you supposed to do about those, they're way too fast and tear through an AC of -16 like it was nothing 11:43 <@rikersan> not really 11:43 <@rikersan> lol 11:43 <@rikersan> AC -10 and 6d8? 11:43 <@rikersan> that's really wimpy tbh 11:43 but they have 230 HP and are ultra fast! 11:44 <@rikersan> are you complaining about the fact that you buffed something 11:44 Actually, houchou may not get any bonus to hit. 11:44 <@rikersan> that's your fault amy 11:44 <@rikersan> that's stupid fix that 11:44 how many HP do they have in dnethack? 11:44 <@rikersan> it should be on par with the black arrow but with instakill instead of just 1k damage 11:44 <@rikersan> like 50 lol 11:44 <@rikersan> I mean 11:44 <@rikersan> even 200 isnt' that bad 11:45 It does 9999 'cause that's the traditional damage cap in Final Fantasy. 11:45 <@rikersan> it's less dangerous than a shimmering dragon 11:45 <@rikersan> lol 11:45 @d?shimmering dragon 11:45 shimmering dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Attacks: 4d6 breath random breath, 3d8 bite physical, 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical | Alignment: 4 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 11:45 <@rikersan> exactly how much here is ripped off from FF 11:45 speed 9... how is that more dangerous than a speed 24 ubermonster 11:45 Less that is ripped off of D&D? 11:45 <@rikersan> lol fair point 11:45 <@rikersan> larien: it's not uber. tha'ts just your fault. and its' cuz it has a random breath attack 11:45 rikersan: "You can't wear a helmet over your excessively spikey hair. --More--" 11:45 <@rikersan> lol 11:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:46 <@rikersan> and I've seen inconsistant bits with flux slimes and shimmering dragons 11:46 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:46 "There is a Buster Sword here, but you cannot lift it. --More--" 11:46 who cares about a random breath attack, there's this thing that calls itself "amulet of reflection" :P 11:46 I think maybe Houchou, Atma Weapon, and the entire Chaos Quest? 11:46 <@rikersan> mainly disint vs normal reflection not working, needing dragon breath 11:46 <@rikersan> prem heart 11:46 Oh, Yup, Premium Heart 11:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 11:47 [hdf-us] [tnnt] cassiopeiastar (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 263 points, T:1000, killed by a coyote 11:47 <@rikersan> and then there's like 2 sailor moon bits too 11:47 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 11:47 <@rikersan> garnet rod and silence glaive right? 11:47 (FF doesn't get to complain about Atma Weapon, bc it's *clearly* a lightsaber) 11:47 <@rikersan> lol 11:47 <@rikersan> also headcanon: the tie-dye shirt of made from rainbow shells 11:47 Also, I guess FF I is clearly a D&D campaign, so.... 11:47 <@rikersan> wait hold on 11:48 <@rikersan> it is isn't it 11:48 <@rikersan> with the weight bits and all 11:48 <@rikersan> ??? 11:48 <@rikersan> chris is this true 11:48 What is a rainbow shell? 11:48 <@rikersan> oh lol that worked out well 11:48 <@rikersan> it's an item from chrono trigger (and cross?) 11:48 Silence Glaive is a bit of an odd one since IIRC Hotaru never actually smacks someone with it 11:49 <@rikersan> it's got the invoke tho to delete everything 11:49 <@rikersan> and it does give protection (but not invuln) when invoked down as well 11:50 <@rikersan> chris: suggestion, add the doom effect to dnh 11:50 <@rikersan> just make garnet rod give doom 11:50 <@rikersan> kek 11:50 <@rikersan> instead of super hacky stoning things 11:50 Yeah, my basic understanding is that the attack should be downplayed and the barrier should be played up. 11:50 <@rikersan> actually the attack is fine 11:50 <@rikersan> imo 11:50 <@rikersan> it doesn't remove non-geno'able things, so it doesn't remove any demons or angels or uniques 11:51 The backstory there is I had a friend who was super obsessed with Sailor Moon, and I implemented those two artifacts when I was first messing around with Nethack. 11:51 <@rikersan> oh nice 11:51 <@rikersan> anyway chris: rainbow shell is an item from chrono trigger, I remember it vaguely being very heavy. it was supposedly imbued with many magical properties, but it was pretty hard to find and couldn't be used really. 11:51 <@rikersan> tie-dye shirt could be seen as flavored into being woven from pieces of the rainbow shell or something 11:51 <@rikersan> I guess 11:52 every variant developer's story starts with adding random stuff to the game in experimentation 11:52 well except Daniel Thaler maybe 11:52 <@rikersan> also, suggestion: a doppel doll item 11:52 <@rikersan> artifact figurine, when #applied makes a clone of you with teh same weapons and armor (tame player monster) 11:53 <@rikersan> artifacts are set to their base item, and it only clones (off-hand as well) wielded weapon and worn armor, so you can't like wield a wand of wishing 11:53 aosdict: random? 11:53 I think there's already a monster in some variant that is the same as you with the same weapon and armor, only everything is uncursed +0 11:54 <@rikersan> this one would be tame tho 11:54 <@rikersan> and everything is what you set it 11:54 bhaak: well, no one starts off thinking "Ima make a variant and add only the most select, most balanced things to the game!" 11:55 @Luxidream And scrolls and potions! 11:55 And spellbooks! 11:55 That's what an Aleax should do, I think. I believe there is a variant that implements it. 11:55 <@Luxidream> yeah but there are other reasons why you shouldn't carry those openly 11:55 Chris_ANG: grunthack I believ 11:55 <@Luxidream> I should include them for completeness 11:55 -!- uniusz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:56 I think there is a distinction between developers that just add cool stuff as patches and those that try toadd only balanced stuff. 11:57 <@rikersan> anyway chris: did you figure out why surya devas are crashin 11:57 bhaak: I'm talking only about the very early stages of variant/patch development 11:58 take splicehack for instance, lots and lots of the very early stuff was just adding random stuff to see if it could be done. The eye towards balance came later. 11:58 <@rikersan> also, is there any way to easily generate a minion chris? 11:58 but that was already when you decided to make a variant? 11:58 Likewise (to the extent that dnh is currently balanced) 11:59 @rikersan: Yeah, that line you showed me is a clear crasher 11:59 <@rikersan> oh good 11:59 obj might be 0, 11:59 fwiw, the first commits (that is, about the first 2 weeks) of unnethack were only adding patches that have been battle tested and mostly considered improving the game. 11:59 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 11:59 so that check needs to be obj && obj->otyp etc. 12:00 bhaak: did you already know the codebase well at that point though? 12:00 for seeing how different vanilla would look like with all the stuff that has been out there for years already 12:00 <@rikersan> chris: is isminion set for only god-given (or summoned) minions or does it apply to all angels 12:00 Broader than option 1 and narrower than option 2 XD 12:00 <@rikersan> uh ok 12:00 aosdict: yes, that was after my work with nethack-de. although even with nethack-de, I already somewhat knew the codebase as I've been source diving for years before making my first patch 12:01 <@rikersan> oh look slike all tame angels ok 12:01 xnethack officially started off with new conducts and balance fixes, but I had written some more random patches versus 3.6.0 prior to that 12:01 <@rikersan> that's stupid 12:01 <@rikersan> is there a way to get whether that angel is an angel of __ 12:01 <@rikersan> i.e. the monadic deva of pan 12:01 No, it's everything 12:01 <@rikersan> oh god 12:01 The crash I mean 12:01 <@rikersan> ah ok 12:01 <@rikersan> but for my code is there any way to see whether hta'ts an angel of __ 12:01 I also didn't learn C with NetHack (it did of course deepen my C skills) 12:02 <@rikersan> isminion seems to be stupid :/ 12:02 Anything named the X of godname has the isminion bit set. 12:02 why? 12:02 because it's a minion of godname? 12:02 I set that pickup options but this not work :( 12:02 please help ! 12:03 <@rikersan> well, any tame angel has it set as well according ot the code 12:03 <@rikersan> > Tame Angels have isminion set and an ispriest structure instead of 12:03 Er, I meant "Why does isminion seem to be stupid"? 12:03 IIRC my first vanilla patches were adding new level variants 12:04 somebody can help me with these options ? please 12:04 <@rikersan> oh cuz of hat 12:04 Oh, Angels specifically might all be isminion, yeah. 12:04 <@rikersan> htat 12:04 <@rikersan> *that 12:04 <@rikersan> there's no easy way to find whether it's a god specific one :( 12:06 YASI: minion hat. Monsters that put it on suddenly become minions of a god. 12:06 <@Luxidream> uniusz 12:06 <@Luxidream> OPTIONS=pickup_types:$?!/=" 12:06 <@Luxidream> paste that into your rcfile 12:06 ok i get it 12:06 i just need to quit 12:06 and make new character 12:06 ah, bilious says otherwise. the Indy YAFM was my first patch 12:06 now i have pickup what i want 12:06 thanks :) 12:07 besides the levels, it was mostly crash bug fixes 12:07 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 12:08 but that pickup options is good ? 12:08 <@Luxidream> pretty much everything you want to pickup 12:08 Ok, I'm confused about how Angel angels work. I think there is some assumption that there should be no such thing as a generic Angel, that they should all be Angels of some god. 12:08 But it is clearly not enforced. 12:09 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1396 points, T:3364, killed by a Mordor orc 12:09 <@Demo> angels confuse me 12:10 Chris_ANG: You can genesis generic Angels, right? 12:10 Luxidream: but these options are good ? 12:11 Chris_ANG: Actually, it appears not. 12:11 Something in the genesis code replaces them with Zombies, yeah. 12:11 No, even if I force Angel. 12:11 But I can get a generic one from a figurine for some reason? 12:11 But you can wish up a figurine of - yup 12:12 <@Demo> what even 12:12 <@Demo> hey how hard would it be to use other monsters as priests? 12:12 Automatic, I believe. 12:13 dNethack subs priests for drow matrons for some gods. 12:13 <@rikersan> complete with darkened temples kek 12:14 (Bc the vanilla priest code supports priests that have been polymorphed into some other form remaining priests) 12:18 hm, if an Angel of Ptah puts on a helm of opposite alignment, does that make them an Angel of Anhur? 12:19 I have tried and failed to get aligned beings to wear HoOA 12:21 -!- mischief has joined #hardfought 12:22 [Demo]: i'll have you know i put a lot of work into hack9 12:23 <@Luxidream> uniusz yes theyre fine 12:23 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 250 points, T:2002, killed by a gas spore's explosion 12:23 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:24 Luxidream ok thanks 12:25 [hdf-us] [tnnt] cassiopeiastar (Pri Hum Fem Law) murdered Khoss, her faithful kitten, on T:1259 12:25 harsh 12:26 <@rikersan> chris: where is the cha/6 cap in the dnh code? 12:27 [hdf-us] [tnnt] cassiopeiastar (Pri Hum Fem Law), 455 points, T:1438, killed by a giant bat, while praying 12:28 if ring is uncursed but undefined its better to put it on or not ? 12:29 <@rikersan> put it on and see if it gives a message 12:29 <@rikersan> then take it off 12:29 <@rikersan> don't do this near a powerful peaceful thing tho 12:29 <@rikersan> like a shopkeeper or priest 12:29 so i should take it of 12:29 and defined later ? 12:31 <@rikersan> put it on and see if it gives a message 12:31 <@rikersan> if it does, check the message on the wiki to see what it is 12:31 its not 12:31 <@rikersan> if it doesn't, take it off and put it away 12:31 <@rikersan> identify it later 12:31 ok thanks 12:35 <@rikersan> hey chris did you ever fix the nobles and riding thing 12:35 <@rikersan> where they removed tameness by getting on/off like non-knights 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76053 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:76066 12:41 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) wished for "", on T:76136 12:42 pressing spacebar by accident = cancel wish 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:76143 12:44 honestly, nethack should just make being-in-a-wish-prompt a true game state, have it so you can save during a wish, can restore a crash during a wish, etc 12:44 @rikersan: The pet cap is in the once-per-turn block in allmain. 12:44 Should probably be refactored to a function in dog.c 12:44 <@rikersan> ah ok cool 12:44 <@Demo> mischeif aren't you the hack9 guy? 12:45 <@rikersan> you have the same functino in both sooo 12:45 <@rikersan> you also have it in allmain... twice? 12:45 <@rikersan> oooh 12:45 <@rikersan> ok 12:46 <@rikersan> so you have it in allmain werid 12:46 <@rikersan> not checking for loyalty the second time 12:47 ...should definitely be refactored. 12:48 <@rikersan> ok I'm not refactoring but this should hopefully fix the friendly msg for loyal pets 12:48 <@rikersan> (loyal being any pet that doesnt' count towards the limit, i.e. starting pets, god gift minions, and quest pets) 12:50 -!- tacco| has quit [] 12:51 How can i check if my dog is little or big dog now ? 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:76485 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:76494 12:54 <@rikersan> uniusz: farlook at it with ; 12:55 or stethoscope if you are blind and cannot see it with telepathy 12:58 rikersan thank you 12:58 <@rikersan> np 13:00 and rusty dagger 13:00 get -1 to dmg ? 13:00 <@rikersan> yes 13:00 okay 13:05 i have 2 daggers, i want have one to wield, one to throw 13:05 can i separate one ? 13:05 how ? 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77691 13:08 one way would be to use the #adjust command with a count, such as #adjust 1 Y Z 13:08 where Y is the letter the two daggers are on, and Z is any other letter 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided lich, on T:40140 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77747 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:77824 13:11 but what if i found new daggers ? 13:13 <@Luxidream> you can name objects to prevent them from stacking 13:14 if you pick up a new dagger that stacks with both a quivered stack and a wielded stack, nethack puts it with the quivered stack 13:14 <@Luxidream> for example, a dagger named "asdf" would not stack with daggers named "fdsa" 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:40742 13:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1165 points, T:3073, quit 13:58 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] u42586 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1606 points, T:4265, killed by a plains centaur 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:78826 14:11 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:13 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 14:13 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:23 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Anu, on T:79107 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:79130 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:79131 14:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:30 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:79225 14:30 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 14:32 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Client Quit] 14:32 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:32 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:79376 14:34 <[Demo]> Chris_ANG: Why does arc starting pick-axe have varying spe? 14:34 K2: thanks for adding tnnt tracking to hdf-eu! apparently the only achievement I got so far is "Hulk Smash" :D 14:34 <[Demo]> Isn't that just begging for startscumming? 14:34 <@rikersan> it's not designed to I believe 14:34 <@rikersan> i think I checked the code and it's just supposed to be like +2 14:35 <[Demo]> UNDEF_SPE 14:35 uniusz: wow you already have 10 achievements :) 14:35 the defense against startscumming shouldn't be making the beginning too deterministic, it should be viciously shaming people who startscum 14:35 <[Demo]> good plan :P 14:36 then startscummers will actively avoid the online community, not a good thing 14:36 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:37 slex has several roles with very random starting inventories, I decided that if players want to startscum for good stuff I'll just let them :) 14:37 there were a lot of achievement ideas for tnnt that would have been good until we realized that you could easily do them on dungeon level 1 by start scumming enough wizards 14:37 anyway, the fact that scoreboard and other sites track startscumming is a mild form of shaming :) 14:37 i think random starts are fun 14:37 since i play for streaks, i can't startscum but i like randomness 14:37 I was once shamed for startscumming because I'm a r-strategist, I don't play very seriously until I know the char has a chance 14:38 so lots of my games ended before 1000 turns, which was their criterion 14:38 nooodle: what are your opinions on a point-buy system of sorts, where you can "buy" your starting inventory 14:38 but I didn't actually quit or commit suicide because of my starting inventory 14:39 Huh. That's weird since it's the only weapon that has variable enchantment. 14:39 aosdict, i think that sounds cool 14:39 what variant has the reroll functionality? (for stats, not for inventory) 14:39 can you savescum until your inventory starts with a wand of wishing? 14:40 no, because the wand of wishing never gets in starting inventory 14:40 wand of death though (but only wizards( 14:40 ) 14:40 when plane of water involves searching thousands of times until you happen to run into the portal (because permablind), it's pretty much inevitable that at some point you'll twitch and fall into the water 14:40 you could do it until there was one on the floor of the first room (but it would probably take a while!) 14:41 nooodle: At the moment I consider it flawed for a couple reasons: any interface would be terrible, it could lead to tedious minmaxing, and it sort of addresses a different problem than overly diverse starting inv, that the random percentage chances for certain items are independent 14:41 it would be cool if for permablind characters the amulet of yendor gave you a hint about which direction the portal is in 14:42 but point-buy systems have been brought up before at least 14:42 aosdict, wouldn't be terrible interface if you could save a favorite set maybe 14:42 then you have to teach new players the config file right away 14:43 you pretty much have to learn the config file right away anyway since nethack's default config is broken for common terminals 14:43 and its autopickup rules are ridiculous and lots of other problems 14:43 it's an unplayable game without significant config'ing 14:43 and would be tremendously inflexible. configure a new set for monks. oh, I want to try some chars without an oil lamp but with a magic marker, have to go in and tweak config. 14:44 oh, some dev changed the starting inventory for a role. now that broke my config. etc. 14:44 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 14:44 aosdict: then in that case, maybe instead of a point system, it's a series of choices where each alternative is roughly equal. Think of it like in Dark Souls (2) where you get to choose a special item at the beginning, and all are kinda nice but none is balance breaking 14:45 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 14:45 nooodle: they should finally do the thing that every sane variant does - adding a goddamn paranoid water option! I can't believe that we have 2018 now and such an option still isn't in vanilla 14:46 LarienTelrunya: I've offered xnh's to paxed. he brushed it off 14:46 ugh 14:46 why??? 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4085 14:46 in fact: Chris_ANG: wen eta paranoid water option for dnethack :D 14:46 did not give a reason, was more like "if I ever want it, it's there to get it" 14:46 i've now fallen into the water twice on the water plane, and lost my scrolls of identify. Lucky I have a spare wand of wishing 14:47 LarienTelrunya: I feel like there is still sentiment among the "old guard" devteam, and certainly among some older players too, that you should be punished for typos 14:48 there should also be a scooby doo option where occasionally you get messages that begin with "Jinkies!!" 14:48 aosdict: I see; personally I'm not one of that old guard, and don't think capital punishment for a single misstep is a good idea, this is also why I made petrification non-instantaneous in slex because I lost count how many times I accidentally punched a cockatrice bare-handed while polymorphed 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 2000 points, T:3744, killed by an ape 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:79817 14:49 basically, in vanilla, you have to stop and pause after every. single. move. while polymorphed into something that will touch a cockatrice, because you'll never know when one is going to appear out of nowhere and cause your game to end because you hit the key that moves you into it 14:49 freakin finally found the portal. jeezzzzz 14:50 nethack could do a bazillion things to make your life easier, if it really wanted to. Especially better support for pacifist and blind conducts so they are less tedious. 14:50 I am no fan at all of bullshit typo deaths, but I find in practice Ctrl-moving in corridors makes this very unlikely 14:50 IIRC nethack fourk makes it so that if you dothe pacifist conduct, moving into a monster just gives a message instead of attacking it 14:51 earlier i killed a monster while blind using fast travel, and i didn't even know that was possible 14:51 it didn't have a number, so it was warning level zero, and i'm permablind, and i was moving with g-travel 14:51 wtf? you mean it bumped you into an I marker and attacked even though you didn't want to? 14:51 no, no I marker 14:51 i've noticed a bunch of bugs with permablind this game actually 14:52 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 14:52 there's a weird bug where if you kill a mimic and then search you can see what the mimic was just transformed into, even though the mimic corpse should be there 14:52 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 14:52 and some monster projectiles are visible as they move towards you, somehow, like cobra spit 14:52 -!- Elronnd has joined #hardfought 14:52 i wouldn't be surprised if there were a bug that made it possible to kill a monster in g-travel while permablind 14:53 huh. I should probably test whether that also happens if you use the permablind conduct option in slex. 14:53 K2: the tnnt website links to https://thegreatestgameyouwilleverplay.com/ -- which has a shitty cert 14:53 nooodle: you should definitely be writing these down! let the devteam know about them 14:53 Elronnd: so what, it's an external link 14:54 well, perhaps it shouldn't link to a page that gives a scary warning and isn't all that informative in the first place 14:54 after a bug happens i gaslight myself into doubting it... but... yeah... i should, probably. 14:54 Elronnd: it's for hype 14:54 or contact the author of that page 14:57 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Client Quit] 14:57 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 10090 points, T:5458, quit 14:59 thanks Elronnd 15:00 woot, tnnt beta test offers up a magic lamp on DL4 shop 15:00 \o/ 15:00 this is the first nethack I've actually played in months :/ 15:02 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Client Quit] 15:02 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 15:05 <[Demo]> wait what the hell 15:05 <[Demo]> why did i even bother fixing the level making stuff to allow me to make a joined ice cave 15:06 <[Demo]> why didnt i just overwrite all the ROOM tiles with ICE in post 15:06 <[Demo]> that would have been a million times easier 15:07 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] u42586 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3463 15:07 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 15:09 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] u42586 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2783 points, T:3467, killed by an invisible winter wolf cub 15:16 <[Demo]> https://i.imgur.com/Xj6Znri.png yey black forest! 15:16 <@Tone> What are all those sinks doing in a forest? :P 15:17 <@Tone> nah that's a pretty nice looking map 15:17 that's clouds right? 15:17 I assume the white # are clouds 15:17 the gray # look like sinks :d 15:19 <[Demo]> fog clouds and dead trees 15:22 yesssss minetown ice box has a floating eye corpse 15:22 I will sacrifice in thanks at the altar of @IceBox 15:26 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:79897 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:79923 15:28 -!- Chansu has quit [Client Quit] 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:79950 15:29 -!- Chansu has joined #hardfought 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:79962 15:29 Is there any way for me to know if k2 messaged me 15:29 Chansu: Message from K2 at 2018-10-13 09:55 EDT: your game has been recovered, and the bug that caused your game to panic has been fixed. if you have any further issues please let me know. 15:30 oh, it gave me a message after i typed 15:30 thanks k2! 15:30 I think this minetown is in the process of becoming orctown 15:30 there have been several waves of orcs 15:31 with all the fuss about orctown, I'm surprised it hasn't become a meme yet :P 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:79997 15:36 ;) 15:36 Chansu you're welcome, glad to help 15:36 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:80064 15:38 Chansu: !tell triggers when the person being told types anything in the channel, that's why you got the message when you typed 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law), 4137026 points, T:80086, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotistBlind/nh361/dumplog/1539205227.nh361.txt 15:38 <@Tone> 'grats nooodle 😄 15:38 blind conduct: the easiest conduct in the game to keep, since it's impossible to break it if you are not Neutral and not a monk. Just don't play a neutral character or a monk and you cannot break it 15:38 ty Tone 15:39 nooodle: congratulations!!! zen is very difficult to do, I wonder if there's a special achievement if you get a zen ascension in tnnt? 15:39 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 15:39 !asc hypnotistBlind 15:39 nooodle: [hdf-us] hypnotistBlind has ascended 1 times in 1 games (100.00%): nh362:1 (100.00%) 15:39 in fact, nooodle: do you want to join my tnnt clan? I'd be honored to have a player of your skill level in the team :) 15:39 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 15:39 LarienTelrunya: it's described in the tournament rules 15:40 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Client Quit] 15:40 ah 50 extra points for zen 15:40 conduct ascensions aren't achievements, they're points directly added to the asc 15:40 yes, so zen = x2 score basically 15:40 oh, huh. Well, maybe. There could be an achievement for curing permanent blindness though, that would be cool 15:40 i'm not sure which clan i want to be on yetttt 15:40 nooodle: counteroffer to join teenage nethack ninja turtles, we're a very 3.6.2-dev focused team :) 15:41 nooodle: you were a very valuable teammate during junethack, so I'd love to have you along for the ride again ♥ 15:41 hmm, protection versus invisibility... 15:41 protection, hands down 15:41 LarienTelrunya: the tnnt scoreboard is now tracking all 3 servers 15:41 I was hoping for magic resistance, but no luck 15:41 fyi 15:42 if you want to be invisible there are many other ways 15:42 K2: great! thanks! maybe I'll play some more in the next days 15:42 and this 50zm helmet was cursed 15:42 raisse: this is still fairly early game, I have no other invis source 15:42 I guess it's opposite alignment then 15:42 you are all kind, i don't know which clan i want yet though. i'll think about it 15:43 oh sweet, this uruk-hai looted the delicatessen for me 15:46 [hdf-us] [tnnt] aosdict (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a glass piercer, on T:4165 15:47 gaaaaaaaah 15:47 well so much for *that* cloak 15:57 <@IceBox> You see a clover appear at your feet aosdict 16:00 -!- phinxy has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 16:00 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 16:01 -!- uniusz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:11 <[Demo]> the lethe patch is pretty good 16:12 <[Demo]> the maps are really good for using for other things 16:13 [hdf-us] [tnnt] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:8054 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:36903 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36908 16:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 16:19 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 16:19 here I am at the bottom of the mines and I have not seen a SINGLE wand this game 16:20 [hdf-us] [tnnt] aosdict (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:6352 16:29 <[Demo]> what even is a neverwas 16:30 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:59820 16:31 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed oilskin sack", on T:59823 16:33 we're about to lose our 4th place in the clan ranking... 16:33 YANI (addendum to the Malcolm Ryan ferment-mold-in-juice idea): Works with newt corpses too, and produces potions of gain energy. 16:34 <[Demo]> ok important fact, neverwas DO NOT make for very good shopkeepers 16:34 <[Demo]> what kind of sketchy monster would you find selling you stuff in a dark and scary forest? 16:34 <[Demo]> i dont wanna use a vampire 16:35 [hdf-us] [tnnt] aosdict (Val Dwa Fem Law), 9364 points, T:6712, killed by a watchman 16:35 ^ intentional 16:35 need to see if any achievements I got were funky 16:35 <[Demo]> ur funky groovin 16:35 enjoy the bones, future bones hunter 16:36 [Demo]: a leprechaun of course :D 16:36 <[Demo]> leprechauns are not salesmen they are scammers 16:36 <[Demo]> also theyd just teleport out of the shop! 16:36 <[Demo]> they wouldnt make a very good shopkeeper as they wouldnt spend most of their time keeping the shop 16:37 !lotg Chansu 16:37 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, Chansu! 16:39 <[Demo]> I also dont want to use any kind of drow, this isnt a droven forest 16:40 <[Demo]> and a forest centaur isnt bestial enough 16:43 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:59927 16:45 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:59949 16:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:48 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:59961 16:51 is there a description of the achievements or is it intended to be a mystery? 16:51 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Death, on T:59978 16:52 Cassieopeia - mouse over 16:52 Cassieopeia: On the achievements page, hover over it 16:52 er, on any page that has achievements 16:52 this is not mobile friendly. sorry 16:52 I dont see anything on PC either tho, using firefox 16:53 <[Demo]> how many shops is an altar worth? 16:53 oh, I was too impatient :-) 16:53 [Demo]: hard to quantify 16:54 <[Demo]> so basically ndnh village patch is gonna be nuts to try to balance 16:55 <[Demo]> i guess i need to implement analytics and ream people through it 16:56 [Demo]: even if they were quantifiable like 1 shop = 1 altar, how it's served to players matters; if you made it so that you have a 50% chance of the shop and a 50% chance of the altar, players will complain :-) 16:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Death, on T:60012 16:56 <[Demo]> ah no you get to choose which early game branch you want 16:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 16:56 <[Demo]> and theres one with like 5 shops and now theres one with 1 shop and an altar 16:57 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:60014 16:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:60056 17:00 Chansu is doing the grand tour 17:01 make sure to step onto each altar!!! oh wait that's not pushed yet 17:03 <[Demo]> oh wow 17:03 <@IceBox> So there IS going to be a grand tour cheevo! 17:03 \o/ 17:04 yeah ;) 17:04 some last minute achievements to add 17:04 the grand tour is one of them 17:04 Chansu \o/ 17:06 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3971934 points, T:60072, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Chansu/tnnt/dumplog/1539282214.tnnt.txt 17:06 Chansu: Congraturation! A winner is you! Now ascend an ironman bleeder in slex please. :D Just kidding! 17:07 "A tower of flame erupts from the water under the snake!" .... how 17:09 <[Demo]> superfire 17:09 ah... yes, of course 17:09 [hdf-us] [tnnt] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law), 8820 points, T:9008, killed by a guard, while praying 17:09 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 17:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 17:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:22 [hdf-us] [tnnt] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 226 points, T:1194, killed by Mr. Kyzyl; the shopkeeper 17:30 -!- ShivanHunter has joined #hardfought 17:31 So basically, fuck the plane of fire 17:31 ShivanHunter! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ *bundlebundlebundle* we're gonna own this tournament! 17:32 sup nerd o/ 17:33 heh, slex is coming along nicely, development is at version 2.37 now; your astral splat (after which you shelved slex) was in version 1.21 or something IIRC? 17:33 I dunno, it was a long time ago 17:34 Might pick up slex a bit again. Really want to try dnh too 17:34 opposite ends of the spectrum lol 17:34 there is also dnhslex :D 17:35 I haven't heard about that but it's probably an abomination the likes of which man was never meant to see 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:48083 17:51 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:48106 17:53 woooo first altar 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3002552 points, T:48118, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/ShivanHunter/nh361/dumplog/1539371266.nh361.txt 17:54 yaaaaay well done ShivanHunter! now you can give dnhslex a try, it's basically dnethack with minor slexifications :D 17:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:37932 18:01 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:03 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Tha Ang Mal Law) killed Grund the Orc King, on T:35126 18:03 hi AntiGulp! *kiss* ♥ 18:03 oh dear god she's moved on from bundling 18:05 wow 18:05 um 18:05 I walk away from my computer for a minute and come back to this 18:06 does this become international sexual harassment at some point 18:06 *popcorn* 18:06 <@Demo> check the freebsd coc 18:07 well I just want to sweetheart bundle the wonderful AntiGulp :) 18:09 This is very flattering Amy, but maybe not main IRC chat material 18:10 heh, yeah I guess, so: any new monsters in the latest splicehack that I can steal? 18:12 :) 18:12 There’s some scribbled down on one of my design documents (Antigulp’s design documents are actually stained napkins with mad scrawled on them) 18:12 *mad ravings 18:12 The "bundler", a new kind of nymph 18:12 AntiGulp: by the way, you have a tnnt achievement named after you 18:13 Dibs on not writing the encyclopedia entry for the bundler 18:13 aosdict: what 18:13 "Anti Gulp": Reach your quest leader having maintained foodless conduct. 18:13 I can change the name if you want. 18:13 pffffft don’t you dare, that’s awesome! 18:13 you left off the e 18:14 and u 18:14 auntie 18:14 AntiGulp: yay that sounds great! hopefully you get around to implementing them because they will be very fleecy ♥♥♥ 18:15 the bundler engulfs you! you are being fleeced. it tickles! 18:16 heh, added the bundler to my to-do list :) 18:17 Now I’m thinking about what the bundler looks like… I don’t know that this is a road I should head down… 18:17 it looks like LarienTelrunya 18:18 by the way, my roommate has arm fleecelers :D 18:18 long hair, prolly multi-coloured, fabulous footwear 18:18 "You're such a nice guy; I wish you'd play SLEX..." 18:18 <@Demo> good lord I'm dying 18:19 in the fine tradition of nethack, not wearing pants 18:19 but the character does wear pants! after all, you can sit on a cockatrice corpse and not turn to stone 18:19 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Inventory#Pants 18:19 LarienTelrunya: They do not; they wear a frock 18:20 Pinkbeast: better edit that page it doesn't mention frocks at all 18:20 aosdict: I'm not going there :-) 18:24 briefly afk 18:24 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 18:25 [hdf-us] [tnnt] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 245 points, T:608, killed by a fox 18:29 * Pinkbeast does edit the backpack section given the mysterious respawning backpack effect 18:30 sadly it's getting really late here so I'll go to bed now, but I hope that the very ♥fleecy♥ AntiGulp will soon create a couple new splicehack commits :) 18:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:35 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 1471 points, T:3297, killed by a giant fly 18:37 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 20 points, T:77, killed by a fox 18:40 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 20 points, T:244, killed by a grid bug 18:42 anyone in the mood to offer advice on my Un game? 18:42 Fell into Nalzok's lair, built a boulder fort. 18:42 Not worried about all the baddies around me, but Nalzok 2-hit me last time. 18:43 I don't have MR yet. 18:43 got -34AC and +7molly, +7 daggers, +3 magicbane. 18:44 maybe over-prepared, but I don't want him to eat my face again. 18:49 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:49 darn it Amy I saw that 18:50 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 18:54 Oh my goodness my splicehack ideas notes are weird. How much sleep was I on when I wrote these? 19:08 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 138 points, T:1116, killed by a gas spore's explosion 19:11 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 967 points, T:1744, killed by a wererat 19:12 !tell tempest I fixed the bugs that you noticed. 19:12 Will do, AntiGulp! 19:13 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:55692 19:15 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 19:16 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 19:16 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 270 points, T:1378, killed by a parrot 19:17 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 36 points, T:179, killed by a killer bee 19:34 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 270 points, T:1504, killed by a parrot 19:35 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 19:41 -!- Chansu has quit [Quit: *poof*] 19:52 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:50071 19:52 yay 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] shottyscotty (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 694 points, T:2519, killed by a dwarf 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] shottyscotty (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:1257 20:14 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] shottyscotty (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 809 points, T:1573, killed by a giant bat 20:24 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "Blessed ring of polymorph", on T:760 20:25 ALL - there's going to be a savebreaking update to TNNT that will be applied tomorrow morning EST (about 12 hours or so from now) 20:25 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 300 points, T:809, killed by a coyote 20:27 any games you have that have ascension potential, get 'em wrapped up before tomorrow morning 20:28 that is all 20:29 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 20:49 <@IceBox> What's in the update K2 ma man? 20:50 new achievements 20:50 @IceBox get hype... get HYPE... a new bitfield of size 3 in the u_achieve struct. HYYYPPPEEE!!! 20:54 <@IceBox> Holy shit! :plogchamp: 20:56 lol 21:05 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3190 points, T:2378, killed by an iguana 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 452 points, T:1559, killed by a hobbit 21:12 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 21 points, T:149, killed by a fox 21:14 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:32 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh4] new value for name rejected (Luxidream) (Cav Hum Fem Law), 77765 points, T:49080, killed by an ettin mummy 21:19 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) genocided mind flayers dungeon wide on T:36588 21:19 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2555 points, T:5328, quit 21:21 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 356 points, T:888, killed by a hobbit, while frozen by a potion 21:22 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of polymorph", on T:34 21:23 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:35 21:24 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:38 21:24 WoW in the first room?? :) 21:25 <@Tone> Yeah that's pretty exciting 😄 21:26 rofl 21:26 someones gonna be pissed come tomorrow morning 21:27 <@Tone> haha yeah I was just thinking that they better hurry up 21:27 Karnac doesnt come into irc unless he has to... 21:28 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed spellbook of identify", on T:44 21:28 k2: oh i see 21:28 maybe send him a mail... 21:28 just did ;) 21:28 time to place fast lol 21:29 he found that wand 2nd room dlvl 1 21:29 man 21:29 yeah 21:29 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed amulet of unchanging", on T:52 21:29 i did that once and wished for an artifact and died... lesson learned 21:29 same lol 21:30 game is ridiculously cruel, but you don't forget things like that Q 21:30 ! 21:30 <@Tone> haha 21:30 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3224 points, T:2536, quit 21:30 heh 21:30 <@Tone> That's a classic yasd 😄 21:31 this is where he smashes his keyboard against the desk 21:31 yeah i was So mad 21:31 <@Tone> Did he start with a wand of poly? 21:31 he got the message 21:31 that's what I was thinking. or the ring of control ? 21:31 weird first wish 21:31 <@Tone> And unchanging now 21:33 hey all - need a bit of help. trying to think of a good name for an achievement for doing the conduct for not wishing for an artifact 21:34 <@Demo> Don't be a fish. dont artiwish 21:34 * K2 passes out blessed +5 helms of brilliance 21:34 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1104 points, T:1371, killed by a dwarf king 21:34 "Didn't wish for an artifact" 21:34 :P 21:34 ShivanHunter omg you win the internet ;) 21:34 it should be a pithy clever name or pop culture reference 21:35 <@Demo> artiwishless 21:35 <@Demo> no artifact jack 21:35 <@Demo> didnt be a bitch, didnt wish (for an artifact) 21:35 note to self - next time say 'hey all (except Demo)' 21:35 <@Demo> lol im sorry these are good ideas 21:35 <@Demo> "Leave the divine to the gods" 21:35 sometimes i ONLY wish for an artifact and nothing else 21:35 <@Demo> idk 21:36 i don't get the hate lol 21:36 ooh that last one aint bad Demo 21:36 <@Demo> something like that 21:36 <@Demo> just make it make more sense 21:36 <@Demo> its drinking hr right now so yeah no good ideas for you 21:37 some of my best work was conducted while drunk 21:37 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 435 points, T:2014, killed by a rabid rat 21:37 where that work is, i dunno... 21:37 oh hey there's a splicehack update 21:45 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2590 points, T:2317, killed by a dwarf mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:45 <@Luxidream> !lastgame tnnt 21:45 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/tnnt/dumplog/1539480998.tnnt.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AlbertB/tnnt/dumplog/1539359688.tnnt.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/tnnt/dumplog/1537322062.tnnt.txt 21:47 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 21:48 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 21:52 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 21:52 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:1915 21:53 wut 21:53 no watery tart!? 21:53 <@Demo> wet my tarts 21:53 I blame tangles 21:54 actually that's ok 21:55 !tell AntiGulp the naming for the new repo seems a little weird :P, "SpliceHack-NetHack" sounds much more like the fork of vanilla than the independent repo 21:55 Will do, aosdict! 21:55 hahaha... got an email from Karnac 21:55 'Guess i'm going to have to play all night till ascnsion ;)' 21:56 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57 <@Tone> Good attitude 😄 22:00 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1550 22:00 early altar also? 22:01 T:1550 isn't that early. 22:01 this is gonna be like that part in the movie 'caddyshack' 22:02 where that old priest is having the best round of golf in his entire life, and at the 18th hole he misses and go nuts and gets struck by lightning 22:02 <@IceBox> I was wondering which part you were going with 22:02 <@IceBox> That ones perf 22:03 heh 22:03 <@Demo> wow 22:03 <@IceBox> Go karnac! 22:03 love that movie 22:03 miss! miss! mmmmmiss.... MISS 22:03 be the ball danny 22:04 nanananananananana.... buhbuhbuhbuhbuhbuhbuh 22:04 if you dont get these references, you're too fuckin young 22:05 <@IceBox> Hahaha i get em not sure but the general roguelikes discord 22:06 <@IceBox> I've been curious about the general age range of this server though 22:08 its a mix 22:08 roughly 15-71? 22:08 if you count hothraxxa, 15-200 22:08 dunno if anyone younger than 15 22:09 <@Demo> im 9 22:09 <@Demo> bind9 22:09 <@Demo> wheee 22:10 teamsplat is comprised of older players 22:10 <@Luxidream> youngest on discord side I think is @Poorly Cropped Corn Dog 22:11 i'm in my late 40's but still act like a teenager at times (according to the wife) 22:11 ;) 22:11 <@Demo> ur totally hip and cool 22:11 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed bag of holding", on T:2445 22:11 hah... if you can make sure my daughter tells me that in 10 years i'll give you 1000 dollars 22:12 K2: yes, if you were turning up your music really loud so that you would not hear her yelling at you to turn it off, that sounds like teenager behavior 22:12 <@Demo> dude having kids has to be fucking whack like wtf thats wild man like shit dude thats gotta be a fucking lot to handle emotionally 22:12 \o/ 22:12 K2: In 10 years, I'll tell your daughter "Hey, want 100 dollars? Just tell your dad he's totally hip and cool." 22:13 @Demo best thing i ever did 22:13 and we have just the one kid so its not crazy 22:13 my sister has 5 22:13 and keep the other $900 22:13 that's a wtf moment 22:13 <@Demo> you arent gonna have amore 22:13 nope 22:13 <@Demo> have more kids ur a good person u should have more 22:13 aosdict lol 22:13 <@Demo> u need to put more good ppl into the world 22:13 oh god no 22:13 one and DONE 22:13 <@Demo> lol 22:14 ha agreed 22:14 already snippy snip 22:14 shootin blanks! 22:14 <@Demo> oh damn 22:14 <@Demo> committed 22:14 -!- Tempest_nano has joined #hardfought 22:14 <@Demo> better protect this one or good luck makign a replacement 22:14 if i feel the need for more i'll just get another dog 22:14 <@Demo> haha 22:15 Tempest_nano - updated SpliceHack just recently 22:15 How do I get around the "there is already a game in progress" error after a crash? 22:15 ah 22:15 have an admin recover it 22:17 Tempest_nano game recovered 22:17 Thanks! 22:18 and i see a coredump from your crash 22:18 AntiGulp will want to see that 22:19 Gah, a second crash. Must be something wrong with that level. I assume I should just start a new game. 22:20 hmm 22:20 i could restore from your last save 22:20 -!- tacco| has quit [] 22:20 its a couple hrs older 22:20 one sec 22:20 That is probably a different game that I have already lost. No big deal. 22:21 * Tempest_nano learned his lesson about saving while playing experimental forks. 22:21 experimental forks sounds like some cutting edge new musical instrument 22:22 !tell AntiGulp coredump from tempest crash - http://termbin.com/34ni - this version has your latest commits from oct 13th 22:22 Will do, K2! 22:22 [backscroll] having kids teaches you mastery of time management. 22:24 Tempest_nano try now 22:24 trying one more thing 22:24 okay, will do 22:25 looks like something went wrong with a monster using healing defensively 22:27 This is an earlier game. That last one was only on DLvl 4, so I am not too attached to it. I appreciate the help. 22:27 no prob 22:28 hrm 22:29 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3009 22:31 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 9 points, T:376, killed by a kobold 22:32 so all these past splicehack games where i played infernal, regen wasnt hungerless 22:32 i thought something was up 22:34 Yup, it was driving me batty chasing down every last scrap of food. It is impressive what a %50 increase in hunger does to the game. 22:34 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:35 It did light a fire under my ass though. 22:37 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided arch-liches dungeon wide on T:53380 22:40 Is there any point in hoarding ordinary tools for polypiling? 22:41 <@Luxidream> can of grease 22:41 <@Luxidream> or tinning kit 22:41 True. ty 22:41 @Luxidream you ascended an infernal already yeah? 22:42 <@shadowsapex> or saddle 22:42 <@Luxidream> two actually 22:42 <@shadowsapex> stethoscope 22:42 <@Luxidream> never noticed 22:42 hah 22:46 I lost a couple to starvation (or starvation related play). That hasn't done me in for a couple of years iirc. 22:57 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 707 points, T:1822, killed by a hill orc 22:58 so why does the oracle have the Luggage 22:59 that will not be the actual location for that chest when the tournament starts 22:59 we put it there for testing purposes 22:59 <@Demo> where will it go??? 22:59 easy to get to 22:59 <@Demo> ??its a mystery?? 22:59 <@Demo> im gonna fucking play this shit 22:59 if i told you, i'd have to kill you 23:00 ohhhhhh I see it's like an server trading thingy 23:00 ;) 23:00 I now have the strangest urge to farm SoJs to trade for a wand of wishing 23:01 it'll be interesting to see who actually puts in a WoW during the tournament 23:02 lmao I put in one gold piece for the lulz, and it spat it back out, now in my inventory I have two stacks of gold 23:02 <@Poorly Cropped Corn Dog> hey i was pinged 23:02 <@Poorly Cropped Corn Dog> oh yeah im pretty sure i am youngest 23:03 <@Poorly Cropped Corn Dog> 14 23:03 lol 23:03 <@Poorly Cropped Corn Dog> 15 in a month tho 23:03 nice 23:10 <@Demo> where do i find the list of tnnt achievements? 23:15 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:1403 23:18 @Demo on your player (or any player) page, mouse over each achievement 23:18 it gives a description 23:18 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4570 23:18 the rules page describes the trophies 23:18 <@Demo> can i zap a wand of undead turning at myself to not die? 23:18 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:2133 23:19 <@Demo> wtf why doesnt my page exist 23:20 try now 23:21 oh wait 23:21 you havent completed a game yet 23:21 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5237 23:22 <@Demo> oh weird 23:22 <@Demo> ok 23:23 <@Demo> some of these achievements are fucking hard to keep track of 23:23 <@Demo> theres too damn many 23:23 <@Demo> to play efficiently 23:23 <@Demo> and get them all 23:23 [hdf-us] [tnnt] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2714 points, T:2523, killed by a crocodile 23:23 um you wouldnt try to get them in just one game ;) 23:24 in fact you cant 23:25 <@Demo> as few games as possible my man 23:31 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 5603 points, T:4222, killed by a fire ant 23:31 Ooohhh, the hungered regeneration thing was just fixed. I gotta try this agian now. 23:32 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a falling rock 23:32 That should be a sign right there... 23:32 I think that is my new personal best... killed on turn 1 23:33 heh 23:34 <@Demo> "The dwarf lord gets angry! "Halt! You're under arrest!" You see an angry guard approaching! The gnomish wizard turns to flee. "Oh my!" You hit the dwarf lord!" fuck 3.6.x 23:35 <@Demo> why isnt there a trophy for murder? 23:43 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha), 564 points, T:877, killed by a killer bee 23:48 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:12279 23:50 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:12519 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 6822 points, T:5878, killed by a watch captain 23:51 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Demo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6318 23:54 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:12829 23:54 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed fixed greased magic marker", on T:12830 23:55 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:12858 23:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed cloak of magic resistance", on T:12926 23:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased ring of levitation", on T:12970 23:57 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased wand of polymorph", on T:12972 23:57 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 23:58 [hdf-us] [tnnt] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4370 23:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of opposite alignment", on T:13512 23:59 Damn, two magic lamps on D2