00:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6340 points, T:5239, killed by a crocodile 00:04 -!- rld2 has joined #hardfought 00:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld2] by ChanServ 00:06 -!- rld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:07 -!- rld2 is now known as rld 00:08 -!- bgiannan has joined #hardfought 00:37 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5074 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8359 points, T:6003, killed by a quasit 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 250 points, T:705, killed by a bat 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 420 points, T:684, killed by a gnome 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 168 points, T:891, killed by a gecko 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 54 points, T:168, killed by a goblin 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 427 points, T:592, killed by a dwarf 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 679 points, T:550, killed by a little dart 01:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Rog Orc Mal Cha) murdered Chomusuke, his faithful kitten, on T:311 01:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 100 points, T:311, caught himself in his own magical blast 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1897 01:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:50 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) shouted "where are the stairs!", on T:1866 02:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:08 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1763 points, T:3724, killed by a trickery 02:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:13 killed by a trickery? 02:13 wonder how you managed that 02:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:35 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:35 !who 02:35 winny: [hdf-us] ShivanHunter [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] toaster [nh343] 02:36 <@Luxidream> !lastgame jankster 02:36 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jankster/un531/dumplog/1539282938.un531.txt.html 03:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8284 03:20 K2: how often do the tnnt clan pages update themselves, if they do that at all? I've played a few games and am wondering if they will show up ;) 03:53 -!- dograt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:13380 04:09 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:15298 04:16 -!- dograt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:16 The dark potion evaporates. It suddenly gets dark. 04:16 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 05:03 You feel sick. You die... 05:03 "killed by a cadaver" 05:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 117496 points, T:19317, killed by an invisible apprentice, while praying 05:05 is that the message you get from eating a slightly old corpse that isn't actually so old as to give you food poisoning? 05:08 yes, it does slight damage 05:08 and if you're (very) low on HP it may kill you 05:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 65 points, T:214, killed by a falling rock 05:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 287 points, T:571, killed by a cave spider 05:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 05:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:09 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:19 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 06:19 hello o/ 06:38 !players 06:38 uniusz: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] jt [gh] | [hdf-au] No current players 07:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] satori (Kni Hum Mal Law), 523 points, T:1469, killed by a giant bat 07:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:59 !tell LarienTelrunya once per minute 07:59 Will do, K2! 08:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] satori (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 343 points, T:1141, killed by a gas spore's explosion 08:18 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:27181 08:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:55 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 09:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 281 points, T:1001, killed by a gecko 09:24 !who 09:24 K2: [hdf-us] samiam [nh362] taylskid [nh362] dgoddard [nh362] jankster [un] arnibald [un] tempest [spl] | [hdf-eu] Phlegh [nh362] docholi [nh362] jt [gh] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:24 plus 4 tnnt 09:24 i need to add tnnt 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:1795 09:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 694 points, T:2070, killed by a gnome king 09:31 -!- mode/Beholder [+RZi] by Beholder 09:31 -!- livingstone.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ 'The November NetHack Tournament' build is now open for public beta testing, please see the tournament menu for details 09:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 09:31 !ping 09:31 K2: Pong! 09:32 !who 09:32 K2: [hdf-us] shottyscotty [nh362] taylskid [nh362] dgoddard [nh362] jankster [un] arnibald [un] tempest [spl] | [hdf-eu] Phlegh [nh362] docholi [nh362] jt [gh] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:34 K2: uhh... https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clans/3.html doesn't list the games I played? I should have the "killed something with a heavy iron ball" trophy... I played tnnt on the hdf-eu server, in case that matters 09:34 LarienTelrunya: Message from K2 at 2018-10-12 07:59 EDT: once per minute 09:35 !who 09:35 K2: [hdf-us] shottyscotty [nh362] hypnotistBlind [nh362] taylskid [nh362] dgoddard [nh362] jankster [un] arnibald [un] tempest [spl] | [hdf-eu] oh6 [tnnt] Raisse [tnnt] rootkit [tnnt] Phlegh [nh362] docholi [nh362] jt [gh] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:35 there it is 09:35 LarienTelrunya xlogfiles from eu and au arent synced yet 09:35 its high on the to-do 09:35 ahh that explains it 09:35 thanks! 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5784 points, T:2735, killed by a wand 09:40 hello K2 o/ :) 09:41 ... what the heck did this Gus Van guy do on the wiki, he edited the experience level page and "added" the SLEX experience chart - but it's actually the vanilla chart he posted there! wtf 09:41 <[Demo]> what a nut 09:41 hi uniusz 09:42 in vanilla, you need 100000000 exp to reach XL30, in slex you only need 8000000 09:42 maybe I'll edit the chart later 09:45 <[Demo]> add the dnh chart where u need barely any xp 09:45 It's already there :P 09:46 okay edited, now it shows the amount you actually need in slex :) 09:46 it used to be that you'd reach XL30 with just a million exp in slex, but due to the length of the game I had to change the values so that not everyone is XL30 after getting halfway through Gehennom 09:47 btw, projects on github line slex, anybody can change code and it will be accepted if community accept it or developer need to accept that changes ? 09:47 uniusz: people can make "pull requests", i.e. suggest specific changes to the code, and I can then either accept or decline that request 09:48 only the developers can make actual changes 09:48 oh 09:48 and in the case of slex we're currently two people: Elronnd and myself ;) 09:48 somebody tells me that community can accept changes in code 09:48 its not true ? 09:48 uniusz: That question was just answered. 09:49 the community could make their own fork of a github project and integrate the proposed changes there 09:50 in fact, there used to be someone who made a fork of slex, and he made changes that I'd never make and which I therefore very definitely didn't pull into slex :P 09:50 he did so for maybe a year or two and then disappeared, so now his fork is unmaintained 09:50 <[Demo]> How different in dnh monk from vanilla monk? 09:51 LarienTelrunya: I wonder if gus van is just trying to say "Notice SLEX! NOTICE IT!!!" on as many pages as possible 09:51 aosdict: hahaha, that sounds like something I'd do... But I'm not him ;) 09:53 Uh, I think you mostly keep getting intrinsics as you level up. Special crowning gift, too, which is mostly useless bc you can just #name Grandmaster's Robe after you reach grandmaster in martial arts.... 09:54 <[Demo]> Really considering basing my mystic role on the monk and removing monk 09:55 Oh right, and you can two-weapon martial arts. 09:55 oh that's not right K2 09:56 <[Demo]> how strong is dnh monk sans premium heart? 09:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] shottyscotty (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed for the first time, on T:7 09:56 you need to put a minimum turncount in sysconf for conduct livelogging. 09:56 otherwise it's going to get real spammy :) 09:57 hahah 09:57 ok oops 09:57 oh right 09:57 for testing its set for 1 09:57 <[Demo]> Current ideas for mystic role https://pastebin.com/raw/2VLY21iD 09:58 I like that Khamul is back though. 09:59 Diiificult to say. I'm going to go with "not that strong", unless you somehow have petrification resistance+cooperative silver rings, in which case you can go +4d20 silver damage in gehennom. 10:00 ok sysconf for tnnt 'fixed' 10:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:48, killed by handling a beartrap 10:00 aosdict: ^ 10:01 [Demo]: wtf why would you remove the monk instead of adding the mystic as an additional role 10:02 I guess half-dragon monks get 3d12 base damage, which isn't horrible. Basically, the basic monks are not that great but there are a lot of gimmicks you can do. 10:02 <[Demo]> yeah if you get a spirit involved too... 10:02 <[Demo]> its like a less good binder 10:02 oh by the way, one of my dnhslex players wants techniques and SLASH'EM roles :D Chris_ANG: any chance to have that happen? 10:03 <[Demo]> LarienTelrunya: I don't need redundant roles this isnt slex :P 10:03 I've looked at techniques a couple of times but I'm not that jazzed about them. 10:03 aww, but techniques are lovely and very wing-tufted! 10:05 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha), 1181 points, T:4561, died of starvation, while fainted 10:09 <[Demo]> grr, init map doesnt want to fill with ice 10:10 Yeah, that looks a lot like a more-divergent monk. 10:11 <[Demo]> its like a less boring monk 10:11 Also, #style is intended for use with all fighting styles. It's just that only lightsabers have them currently. 10:11 (rather than #monster) 10:11 <[Demo]> i was gonna put it on #style but I wasn't so sure about it 10:12 slex will allow the player to #monster to switch between bare-handed combat and martial arts in the next version ;) 10:12 <[Demo]> And thats good cause at some point im gonna run out of space on #monster 10:12 <[Demo]> oh I forgot my final idea, at some point you unlock some sort of energy form 10:16 * Chris_ANG has just noticed he has like 10 functions that all wake monsters up due to loud noises 10:17 loud noises! 10:17 lol 10:17 I love lamp 10:17 :P 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 726 points, T:1221, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a potion 10:18 if there was an artifact lamp called "I Love Lamp", what attributes would it have? 10:19 Is this a möth meme or..? 10:20 -!- mlarkinEF has joined #hardfought 10:20 demonstration 10:20 i never pay attention to it 10:20 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha), 105 points, T:1914, killed by a small mimic 10:21 LarienTelrunya, everburning, extrinsic telepathy and aggravate monster 10:21 heh 10:22 <[Demo]> yo amy how much have you butchered slashems level compiler? 10:22 uhh not that much, just enough to make it compile my new terrain types 10:22 so a lot 10:22 ;) 10:23 <[Demo]> yo i wanna init_map with ice but it just makes corridors and it makes me sad 10:23 <[Demo]> have you dealt with similar issues? 10:24 IIRC yes, not sure how I fixed that but I did fix it in the end 10:24 <[Demo]> well damn lol 10:24 maybe you find it by browsing the history on files in slex's /util folder 10:25 <[Demo]> yeah thats what im trying to do 10:25 -!- mlarkinEF has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27 why do i feel like mlarkinEF was one of those spam bots 10:28 [Demo]: I'm pretty sure filling a level with ice should already work? 10:29 Yeah, Kostchtchie's level depends on it. 10:29 Are you trying to make a MAZE of ice? 10:30 mazeice 10:30 icemaze 10:30 maze, ice 10:30 1 each 10:30 <[Demo]> correct 10:30 <[Demo]> turns out i had a copy and paste issue 10:30 <[Demo]> was still loading minefill, not icefill :P oops 10:31 heh 10:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:46368 10:33 <[Demo]> hmm I wonder why only corridor is allowed for joined maps 10:35 <[Demo]> alright i ghettod it into working but at what cost 10:38 Joined maps? 10:39 -!- dograt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:39 -!- Snipaoz has joined #hardfought 10:39 hello, I'm using 18.04 desktop. I'm used to etckeeper when using other distros. With Ubuntu, is it normal that I see differences in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants even without installing packages? It seems a simple reboot creates a lot of noise there 10:39 the split confused me 10:40 It's unlikely you'll be able to connect one valve directly to the other, so a short bit of pipe will be required 10:40 -!- Snipaoz was kicked from #hardfought by K2 [Snipaoz] 10:40 dammit they are back 10:42 that's odd because the first line seems like a legit systemd question but then the next lines make no sens 10:42 right 10:42 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 10:44 <[Demo]> init_map with joined set as true 10:45 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 809 points, T:1801, killed by an iguana 10:47 <[Demo]> alright yeah so joined ice levels sometimes get stuck in an infinite loop while generating if you force allowing it and do it anyway 10:48 [Demo]: if you are somehow writing ROOM tiles into x=0, that can cause an infinite loop 10:49 -!- uniusz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:51 <[Demo]> my guess is the join map function is looking for ROOM tiles and when it cant find them doesnt ever end 10:51 that too 10:51 -!- telegarn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:51 Oooh. flood_fill_rm, I think. 10:52 then again this is 3.4.3 code, I only helped fix these bugs in 3.6.1 10:52 Previous experience suggests that only works with ROOM tiles. 10:52 <[Demo]> yes i found it there 10:53 <[Demo]> there is a while loop that checks IS_ROOM 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:47772 10:54 <[Demo]> no cigar 10:55 I have to check all my .des files. 10:56 I assume that I have avoided triggering this bug, since you noticed it pretty quick, 10:56 but if I did it was by accident. 10:57 <[Demo]> Oh its not a bug, you arent supposed to be able to make joined maps with any foreground but ROOM 10:57 <[Demo]> and when you override that you win stupid prizes 10:58 <[Demo]> it definitely makes it past the flood fill 10:58 Actually, it also seems to work in the Pirate quest with #? 10:59 I'm surprised, because flood filling # rooms didn't seem to work in the Neutral quest :/ 11:01 <[Demo]> it seems like im stuck in a for loop a bunch either that or the join_map function keeps getting called which I don't know is the case 11:03 Set a breakpoint with gdb? 11:10 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:14 <[Demo]> I have fun plines so i know whats going on now 11:22 <[Demo]> alright stepping through it with a breakpoint is yielding output that doesnt make sense behaviorly 11:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: I love ice cream ♥♥♥] 11:32 !lotg oh6 11:32 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, oh6! 11:33 -!- ltomasboaB has joined #hardfought 11:33 that's strange 11:33 my stock photos have made... 11:34 (not necessariyl strict, though) 11:34 -!- ltomasboaB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36 so the new wave of spammers is... spamming random messages? 11:37 aosdict: I'm guessing it's using fragments of actual conversation in order to not trip Sigyn. 11:37 but what's the point 11:37 just making freenode crappier? is that what they've resorted to? 11:37 To annoy people 11:38 What was the point of any of the spam that came before? 11:39 first it was personal attacks on freenode admins 11:39 then it was just vulgar ascii art 11:39 Right. What's the point of ascii art or "allah is doing". 11:40 oh are they spamming about allah again? 11:40 it's a cycle 11:40 raisse: not yet 11:40 they'll get round to attacks on admins soon enough 11:43 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:55 freenode needs more Crom spam. 11:56 Crom? 11:57 conan the barbarians god 11:57 Crom 11:58 I was thinking of Chrom, the Fire Emblem character 11:59 bouquet - hdf-au is now ipv6 too 11:59 \o/ 11:59 ___/\____\o/___ oh noes a shark! 11:59 hahaha 12:00 My RD6 gateway barfed for a week last week. I had to use ipv4 like a common plebe. 12:00 pfft 12:00 so pedestrian... 12:00 you must have felt dirty 12:00 just... eww 12:00 took all day to wash the v4 packets out of my internet tubes. 12:00 Is there any actual disatvantage to using ipv4 12:00 no 12:01 but, we ran out of new public ipv4 addresses a few years ago 12:01 just NAT which is evil and introduces some latency that could be avoided. 12:02 I've always wondered why they're called ipv4 and ipv6. Was there an ipv2? What happened to ipv5? 12:02 with ipv6 we don't need to NAT networks. 12:02 ipv5 was a streaming protocol that got dumped. 12:03 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 28 points, T:48, killed by a kobold zombie 12:03 2^128 number of usable ip addresses vs 2^32 12:03 <[Demo]> thank god for backtraces 12:03 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:5 12:04 hah 12:04 pet murderer! 12:05 If we ran out of public ipv4 addresses a few years ago, and hdf-au was created less than a year ago, how did hdf-au have an ipv4 address? :thinking: 12:05 2^128 - otherwise known as A Brazillian 12:05 PavelB addresses do get recycled 12:05 there's plenty of ipv4 addresses, they're not all in use. 12:05 pfft 12:05 ya, and they get recycled. 12:05 So we're actually still fine for a while 12:05 yup 12:06 but ipv6 is soooooooo much easier when building networks. 12:07 <[Demo]> cant recall if ive posted this here but a useful tool for ipv6 network engineers https://www.ipv6buddy.com/ 12:07 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3264 12:07 todo: actually set up a ipv6 only network lab 12:07 i think i'd learn a lot more than the basics i know 12:07 each person on the planet could have their own personal group of ipv6 addresses that dwarfs the total number of existing ipv4 addresses 12:07 if I have to spin up 10k nodes so K2 can run a simulation of why I YASD, there's no way I'd build that with ipv4. I can get a nice contiguous block of addresses in v6. 12:08 heh 12:08 https://blog.he.net/2010/05/28/hurricane-electric-would-like-to-send-you-a-free-t-shirt/ btw free ipv6 tshirt, just have to do some really easy multiple choice questions :) 12:08 ya he.net is ahead of the game 12:08 hah, I lost my connection to hdf-eu in the middle of reviewing my ascended tnnt game 12:08 I'm wearing mine right now! 12:08 I'm jelly 12:09 [Demo]: omg that's brilliant! 12:09 hah 12:09 want 12:09 I'm not a sysadmin but I do appreciate free t-shirts 12:09 oh6 oh crap 12:09 lemme look 12:10 oh6 - so you ascended but it didnt finish because you were looking through endgame data and lost connection 12:11 right 12:11 no game files... 12:11 but there is a save 12:11 I got something about not being able to gracefully finish, should I force termination 12:11 from a few min ago 12:11 no wait 12:12 bought some ipv6buddies for our network engineers. They'll either die laughing or actually use them. 12:12 oh6 ok try and reload game 12:12 its from a few min ago 12:13 -!- azyyX has joined #hardfought 12:13 diverdude: ... that's a .tgz 12:13 -!- PraematurarF has joined #hardfought 12:13 I finally found a book on C I could recommend to people learning. 12:13 and I don't mean that uny leftist shit 12:13 OK then 12:13 Maybe it's because there is no actual installation 12:13 or taken away by the police and executed... 12:13 i0racle: you're almost schizophrenic enough to troll #osdev 12:14 kick plz 12:14 still getting: Couldn't terminate one of your stale tnnt processes gracefully. 12:14 Force its termination? [yn] 12:14 bouquet: What happened to ipv5? 12:14 hmm... what happened to NetHack 3.5 too... conspiracy theories, go! 12:14 aosdict: Increase in bandwidth made it possible to use ipv4 for streaming, making it obsolete before it was ever finalized. 12:15 hit yes 12:15 ok, will try that 12:15 (have to retry- I accidentally escaped out) 12:16 PavelB: boo that's not an exciting conspiracy theory 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:50317 12:17 \o/ 12:17 aosdict: my understanding is it was rendered irrelevant by greater availability to high bandwidth connections. It was supposed to prioritize streaming traffic or something, but that became irrelevant when we all got 20M connections at home back in the 00's 12:18 <[Demo]> wow a tnnt winner 12:18 #3 12:18 oh I thought he was playing fiqhack 12:18 it wasn't a very serious attempt at solving network problems. Work on the foundation of ipv6 was already underway. 12:18 -!- azyyX has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18 i ran out of colors 12:18 K2: 256color in irc when :P 12:19 ok, back to crashing that hdf-us tnnt game 12:19 <@Tone> grats oh6 😄 12:19 thanks @Tone 12:19 -!- PraematurarF has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21 I'm trying to get a free tshirt and don't know ipv6, can someone help me with "How many /64 subnets are available in a /48 prefix?" 12:21 a googol 12:21 Options include 12:21 256 12:21 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 12:21 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 12:21 65536 12:21 #2 12:21 seriously 12:22 #3 is total number of ipv6 addresses 12:22 Thanks 12:22 visiting parents this weeknd, their new house has a ridiculous network setup. I might try tethering my phone because it *might* be lower latency to play nethack online (seriously). WiFi is extended over two wireless repeaters in addition to the router/modem 12:22 * K2 wonders if aosdict noticed that I said 'googol' correctly 12:22 yes 12:22 :P 12:22 they have 300 kilobit down too :c 12:23 How many available IPv6 addresses are there in a /64 allocation? 12:23 65536 12:23 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 12:23 4,294,967,296 12:23 2^128 12:23 feels like 2002 all over 12:23 winny i've used my cell as a hotspot before and got surprisingly good pings to hdf-us 12:23 this is in the country so it might be only 3G 12:23 before i got internet in milwaukee i tethered my phone, and was able to play battlefield 4 just fine 12:24 ~40-60ms average pings 12:24 OK, there now appears to be a permanent poison gas cloud at the ludios entrance in this tnnt game 12:24 doh 12:24 I'll try saving and reloading 12:24 hold your breath 12:24 breathe deep! 12:24 yep, still there 12:25 at least it didn't crash this time! 12:25 wewt 12:26 <[Demo]> ok so after 1 and a half? hours of debugging i finally found the issue wow i suck 12:26 OK, throne room monsters aren't dumb enough to walk into a poison cloud, which gives me a sanctuary of sorts 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 12:26 welcome to IT support 12:28 [Demo]: That's fairly normal for a bug in unfamiliar nethack code 12:29 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:24333 12:29 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1196 points, T:3499, killed by a giant bat 12:29 <[Demo]> oh cool and my fix breaks everything else yeehaw 12:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2 12:30 <[Demo]> anyway turned out to be a find_branch_room issue 12:33 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:34 Nethack logic: If you dye glass it becomes shatterproof 12:34 As shown by the fact that you can kick worthless pieces of glass without breaking them 12:35 hmm 12:35 that's there for an anti-cheesing-exploit reason 12:35 hardfought turns 18 in 10 days 12:35 if they were shatterable, you could stick a gem in an empty box and kick the box till it broke, and then you would know it was glass 12:35 Planning on celebrating? 12:36 yes 12:36 copious amounts of alcohol 12:36 or just name a bunch of gems "glass", stick them ALL in an empty box, and kick it repeatedly, then remove the "glass" name from the ones left over 12:37 <[Demo]> god im afraid to say my fix works 12:37 best way to id gems but esoteric and tedious, so I'm not sad to see it go 12:37 (The corresponding EPI is that *any* gem will shatter and disappear when thrown or in a kicked box) 12:38 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1190 points, T:2571, quit 12:39 aosdict: damn, that's actually pretty clever 12:43 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:1726 12:45 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1291 points, T:1793, killed by an orc mummy, while reading a book 12:50 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3568 points, T:1813, killed by a lynx 12:57 !lastgame tnnt 12:57 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Karnac/tnnt/dumplog/1539360351.tnnt.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/tnnt/dumplog/1538968668.tnnt.txt 12:57 ah he fixed the errors in his cfg finally 12:59 I keep misreading that as tmnt 12:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1213 points, T:2378, killed by an acidic glob 13:00 Chris_ANG: that's where clan Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles comes in ;) 13:01 He 13:01 *Heh :) 13:03 * aosdict reads that as Chris_ANG momentarily coughing in the middle of a laugh 13:05 :) 13:05 in UnNethack, if I see a D use it's breathweapon, does that identify the quality of their scales *in-game* or should I make a note elsewhere? 13:06 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:06 in game 13:06 is it listed in discoveries or anywhere I can review? 13:06 i think so yeah 13:07 yes, it does 13:08 ah, so it does. Under "armor". I was looking for a "Dragons" section 13:09 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 13:10 hmm, that's actually a good idea 13:12 html dumplogs for 3.6.x is also a good idea bhaak! 13:12 hurry 13:12 up 13:12 :P 13:19 HTML dumplogs is a good idea, but not trivial to A) implement and B) get past a review committee. 13:19 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2202 points, T:3010, killed by a barrow wight 13:19 For technical reasons. 13:22 <[Demo]> yey i have power again so i can leave my outpost 13:29 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 13:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:32 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers dungeon wide on T:21148 13:34 -!- PosterSG has joined #hardfought 13:34 -!- PosterSG has quit [K-Lined] 13:37 -!- Iridos has joined #hardfought 13:37 dorp: true, but not all things that have static duration are declared static 13:37 WEP isnt secure anyway 13:37 tell him to get something else 13:37 if you * 13:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:37 dgp: I'd hope so since you're typing english :) 13:37 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:37 they just keep running and running 13:38 * aosdict hands K2 a pair of kicking boots 13:38 -!- Iridos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38 I guess the spammers are phishing for active users or something? 13:39 yeah 13:39 i really dont want to +q the channel again 13:40 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:37998 13:44 -!- confluencyRG has joined #hardfought 13:44 -!- confluencyRG has quit [K-Lined] 13:45 K2: I don't know how to HTML dumplogs with the new dumplog facility in 3.6. well, not entirely true. I don't know how to do both HTML and ASCII dumplogs at the same time with the new dumplog facility in 3.6. patches welcome! :-} 13:46 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:48 but 13:48 but... 13:48 you're dev team ;) 13:49 and this is all beyond my skill. i tried once to import html dumplogs from unnethack to grunthack and almost had a brain aneurysm 13:51 (yes, I had to look up how to spell 'aneurysm') 13:51 -!- shafox has joined #hardfought 13:51 xavierg: you can read all about it after I die. 13:51 :-D 13:51 -!- shafox was kicked from #hardfought by K2 [shafox] 13:52 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:38929 13:52 K2: I'm DevTeam but that only means, I think of everything. not that I'll program everything :-) 13:52 a pretty easy Sigyn target would be if someone joins a channel and starts name-dropping people who aren't and have never been in that channel 13:52 my world doesnt make sense anymore 13:52 <@Tone> ha :D 13:53 aosdict: bad idea for new tournament about to start 13:53 already have had legit newcomers join and talk 13:54 K2: A legit newcomer wouldn't join the channel and try to send a message to "xavierg" which nick has never been in hardfought 13:55 to do it right - you cant join a channel until you register a nick, and the email you get from freenode to finish that process is manually handled by the admins 13:55 but thats not going to happen 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) wished for "the holy greased fireproof historic amulet of reflection", on T:50934 13:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 3 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39712 14:01 -!- ukembeddedFo has joined #hardfought 14:01 -!- ukembeddedFo has quit [K-Lined] 14:07 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3941 points, T:1812, killed by a sasquatch 14:09 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6 points, T:61, killed by a water moccasin 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 382 points, T:907, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:12 -!- hf_guest_43308 has joined #hardfought 14:12 so i heard this is the most hardcore roughest group of e-thugs on the internet 14:12 perhaps 14:12 im here to throw a glove down and challenge whoevers bold enough to a game 14:13 thermonuclear war? 14:13 naw thats kid stuff think a lil higher slugger 14:13 heh... slugger 14:13 you pick 14:13 fortnite 14:13 1v1 14:13 obs 14:13 no food no prayer 14:13 phats only 14:13 dab off 14:14 and if u even build a single piece of wood i will delete your face through the internet 14:14 twister 14:14 take it or leave it 14:14 right hand red 14:14 *naked* twister 14:14 shit thats pretty hardcore 14:14 w/ peanut butter 14:14 but i got it even harder 14:14 skinless twister 14:14 for halloween 14:14 pfft 14:15 with lemon and salt 14:15 thats right u know u scared 14:15 ;) 14:15 i bet u dont even know what YoHRa stands for 14:16 difference between naked and skinless 14:16 what is it 14:16 one is SANS (from undertale) clothes, the other is Boneless 14:16 *dabs on ur life* 14:16 -!- hf_guest_43308 was kicked from #hardfought by K2 [hf_guest_43308] 14:17 weird AI 14:17 heh 14:17 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 167 points, T:574, killed by an arrow 14:17 that was enlightening 14:19 K2: did you invite that bot or was it totally random? 14:19 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:40823 14:19 so now I want to play naked twister 14:20 bouquet: totally random 14:20 K2: what just happened 14:20 that was through the web irc page i have on hdf website 14:20 I'm going to steal "dabs on ur life". 14:20 aosdict: something... wonderful 14:20 sounds hard core 14:20 2001 space odyssey! 14:21 <@Luxidream> Is sand in slex yet 14:21 <@Luxidream> sans 14:21 David Bowie: Space Oddity 14:21 now it WILL be thanks @Luxidream 14:21 is there any more disgusting sight within the nethack universe than someone using an amulet of magical breathing to eat dozens of giants in an orgy of eating and vomit 14:21 fyi fastest realtime asc is now tracked as trophy in tnnt 14:21 <@Luxidream> awesome 14:22 two fitty points 14:22 well, yesterday I proposed a tnnt achievement "died with the amulet while naked on the high altar by choking on wumpus corpse" 14:22 but aosdict said it wasn't in the spirit of the tourney 14:22 switch wumpus to woodchuck 14:23 named carl 14:24 bouquet, that's an awesome idea though, in general, i like the idea of there being a trophy for just a truly ridiculous and specific set of circumstances 14:26 <@Tone> K2: ha, I saw you got down voted on reddit for recommending someone to wish for that with their extra wand of wishing 😄 14:27 <[Demo]> I dont think that was AI 14:27 lol 14:27 <[Demo]> Like im pretty sure that wasnt AI 14:28 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 14:29 <@Tone> just looked like a troll to me 14:29 i think it was AI 14:29 rapid fire bizarre responses 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Ran Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4409 14:38 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1088 points, T:2157, killed by a warg 14:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7616 points, T:5180, killed by a plains centaur 14:40 yum, want those wizbones 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 2332 points, T:4558, killed by a hobbit 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:54476 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:54482 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 97 points, T:312, killed by a jackal 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 192 points, T:563, killed by a boulder 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 100 points, T:80, killed by a gnome lord 14:55 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4967 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 115 points, T:1017, killed by a kobold 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 564 points, T:1170, killed by a mind flayer 15:08 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 2885 points, T:6346, killed by a giant beetle 15:08 <@mtf> @Tone this is completely random, but I just want to mention that I think you have the best profile pic in the server... there's something extremely satisfying about how that knob fits perfectly with the little circle discord gives you to present an image 15:10 man-crush 15:11 @mtf i saw him first! 15:11 <@mtf> lel 15:11 <@mtf> you can't even see his profile pic! 15:11 i dont have to 15:11 i just know 15:12 <@mtf> It's epicness transcends time and space... and IRC, apparently 15:12 so dreamy 15:18 <@Tone> @mtf haha thanks 😄 15:20 Hmm, did I ever bother to set a profile pic? I have a self-portrait image somewhere that would probably work... 15:20 <@mtf> you have a discord account jona? 15:20 Although it wouldn't show in this channel anyway. 15:20 <@mtf> ... you actuall'y have three 0.o 15:21 @mtf Yes, I use Bitlbee to access Discord channels that aren't bridged to Freenode. 15:21 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 15:21 <@mtf> gotcha 15:21 Mostly the NewGamePlus podcast stuff. 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 801 points, T:2285, killed by a giant ant 15:21 And I think one RLDiscord channel. Angband maybe. 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3414 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4691 15:27 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:28 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30756 15:33 -!- sarge has joined #hardfought 15:33 -!- sarge has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:40355 15:35 -!- Dominiannk has joined #hardfought 15:35 -!- Dominiannk has quit [K-Lined] 15:35 !who 15:35 uniusz: [hdf-us] SL3XM3 [tnnt] oh6 [tnnt] Chansu [tnnt] k2 [tnnt] Eleven [tnnt] Bard [slshm] ShivanHunter [nh362] u42586 [nh362] dgoddard [nh362] hypnotistBlind [nh362] Delraven [un] zsebastian [fh] | [hdf-eu] rootkit [tnnt] jt [gh] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:36 wow, many players ;i 15:36 ;o 15:37 [hdf-us] [fh] sebe (zsebastian) (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 9657 points, T:262, killed by a jackal 15:47 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 shield of reflection", on T:7282 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7509 points, T:6261, killed by a soldier ant 15:50 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:50 -!- raisse is now known as Guest14334 15:50 -!- Guest14334 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 15:50 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4228 15:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] SL3XM3 (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 3040 points, T:3237, killed by a white unicorn 15:56 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:58 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 16:02 <[Demo]> what are some of the big midgame problems? 16:03 <[Demo]> err challenges for the player 16:03 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:04 havent found good armor or a decent weapon yet 16:04 isnt high enough level to do the quest 16:08 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3470 16:09 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:3608 16:12 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5292 16:14 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:33139 16:17 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:38251 16:18 -!- Guest54789 has joined #hardfought 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) wished for "the uncursed greased magic marker", on T:57104 16:18 rafasc, Yes it said the file was deleted in the branch I was merging from, but updated in the branch I am merging to 16:18 it's not like he should avoid a portion of the usual learning, i'd think it's all the same learning curve. 16:19 these guys are monkeys 16:19 Kremator: It's God's gift to man, as far as I can tell 16:19 rmbeer: "handle"? 16:19 -!- Guest54789 was kicked from #hardfought by K2 [Guest54789] 16:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:24 [hdf-us] [tnnt] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3031 points, T:3867, killed by an orcish arrow 16:25 I think it's time to disable the webirc client 16:27 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed magic marker", on T:27041 16:27 Guest54789 wasnt the hdf irc client 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:57367 16:28 -!- hf_guest_83096 has joined #hardfought 16:28 this is though 16:28 notice the ip address 16:28 jonadab: you're the second person I've ever seen argue that rogue is not a roguelike 16:29 ipv6 ending in 6b0b is a web irc connection coming from the hdf web irc client 16:29 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 16:29 -!- hf_guest_83096 has left #hardfought 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2098 points, T:3708, killed by a dwarf 16:41 "The tengu reads a blessed scroll of teleportation!" 16:41 Y tho? 16:42 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:27335 16:42 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27336 16:42 so you can't have it 16:49 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:49 greedy little i 16:51 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 16:54 -!- uniusz has quit [Quit: uniusz] 16:55 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 16:55 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 16:59 -!- uniusz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:01 yay beholder! 17:01 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01 \o/ 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:59901 17:02 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 17:04 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Abitibi on T:31303 17:05 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] new value for name rejected (Luxidream) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 57042 points, T:9558, killed by a panther 17:15 someone find my bones please 17:15 minetown, giant beetle 17:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2268 points, T:5399, killed by a rothe 17:24 <[Demo]> oh yikes, i have a rare bug where my staircase wont place uh oh 17:25 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 17:28 :( 17:28 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:29274 17:29 While you're in there, could you figure out why Dagon's maze doesn't generate like 1 time in 20? 17:29 ;) 17:30 <[Demo]> Ah no it turns out I was being dumb and not giving the stairs a wide enough region to generate in incase the trees or stone filled in its sliver of a possible region 17:31 <[Demo]> god the last thing i want to do is investigate the maze filling code 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2434 points, T:2449, quit 17:32 And that is why Dagon's level has sometimes been a set of deep-sea rock pillars for the last like 11 years. 17:33 (I actually have no idea how old dagon's level is, but it's probably pushing that age :/) 17:34 <[Demo]> Are you just using the function wrong or something? like if you give it a different cardinal dirrection will it not break occasioanlly? 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10243 17:35 I think it always uses the same cardinal direction and the same map. So I don't know what's wrong with it. 17:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:35 <[Demo]> but like if you try a different one maybe itll work? 17:36 raisse: could you wish up a blindfold for me? Level 14 and the only eye covering I've found was a mimic. 17:37 The map is very specific in terms of where the mazes have to start, and in what direction they need to go. 17:38 <[Demo]> yeah i dont understand how the direction of a mazewalk works 17:38 It's the direction it takes its first step in. 17:39 Mazewalk works by chewing through a grid of rock tiles 17:40 This one would result in a maze through trees, for example: 17:40 TTTTTT 17:40 T TT T 17:40 TTTTTT 17:40 T TT T 17:40 TTTTTT 17:40 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 17:41 <@Luxidream> T_T T_T 17:42 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 17:43 why version 1.3 is available on server? 17:45 -!- phda has joined #hardfought 17:45 right, i'm familiar with the concept from the data pipelines i've written 17:45 do be careful 17:45 Shmam: are you using netplan to configure the interfaces? 17:46 <@ChrisANG> Grumble grumble spam filter grumble. 17:47 <[Demo]> grr 17:49 -!- phda has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 714 points, T:1229, killed by a dwarf 17:54 <[Demo]> man a dlvl 4 ice branch seems like a bad idea 17:56 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:57 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:34554 18:03 [hdf-us] [tnnt] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:34641 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:63446 18:06 <@ChrisANG> Hm. YANI: Monks (and others?) have a magical-martial-arts system that works similarly to the (original) Bard system, where learning spells also teaches you other abilities. 18:06 <@ChrisANG> (The alternative is to introduce a zillion "Martial Arts Manuals" that teach them) 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:63473 18:07 <@ChrisANG> (Similar to how the alternative for Bardic Music is to introduce a bunch of Songbooks, which I don't think any of the current adopters have opted for) 18:07 <[Demo]> sounds like a wizard but slightly different 18:08 ChrisANG: how about updating and improving the Slash'em monk technique system? 18:08 <[Demo]> after i get the village patch finished im gonna do the mystic patch 18:09 <@ChrisANG> The Monks are indeed the only place where the technique system seems good. 18:09 <[Demo]> village patch is actually going well right now i think, should have all the big kinks worked out and just need to add new branches for it that fit within the created framework 18:09 <@ChrisANG> Which I guess makes sense, historically, right? 18:09 The only other technique I found useful was for gnomes to "upgrade" items. There may have been more I hadn't explored. 18:10 <@ChrisANG> (I think the history is that the Monk originated in SLASH'EM and was designed around the technique system, which was not ported to NetHack when Monk was) 18:10 <[Demo]> i wonder why mkportal doesnt return a trap struct 18:10 Monk could definitely use some class defining stuff. 18:11 Traditionally, martial arts grand master monks are portrayed as having some magical attack/defense capabilities. 18:12 <@ChrisANG> Did Amy port the technique system to 3.4? 18:12 <@ChrisANG> She must of, right? 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:63546 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:63547 18:13 why version 1.3 is available on server? 18:13 phasing, insta-kill combo punch, enhanced fighting capabilities while drunk/confused, flipping out and killing stuff. 18:14 uniusz: why not? 18:14 <[Demo]> phasing in nethack is such a problem 18:14 <[Demo]> its such a strong thing to just hand out 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:63641 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:63643 18:15 at the very least, they should get a sizeable to hit and damage bonus when drunk. 18:15 makes those booze potions more valuable 18:16 <[Demo]> i would never bother implementing that 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12770 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3702 18:21 <@ChrisANG> I already implemented that 18:22 <@ChrisANG> 😉 18:22 <@ChrisANG> (I don't think it's actually all that sizable) 18:23 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:35089 18:23 <@ChrisANG> (Yeah, it's actually a small bonus to AC) 18:24 K2: For a minute reading the backscroll I thought that spammers were targeting #hardfought directly. Why else would they be talking about ipv6? 18:24 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:25 bouquet: ugh monks are the exception or special role in so many things already, do we really need to be giving them and only them techniques? 18:25 They also need more footwear options. 18:25 <[Demo]> yeah i dont know why you wasted your time with the whole dnh booze patches 18:27 <@ChrisANG> I needed them for Naberius's binding condition, and while I was messing with it I added a few other effects too. 18:28 Booze granting an AC bonus seems counterintuitive, wouldn't it make your reaction time worse and thus your ability to dodge would stink? 18:28 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 18:28 <@ChrisANG> Drunken boxing is a genre thing. 18:29 <@ChrisANG> And yeah, you don't do it in real life for obvious reasons XD 18:29 <@ChrisANG> (Though I gather you might practice how to pretend you're drunk so that you can catch people off-guard) 18:31 Well, just saying that it granting a damage bonus seems more flavorful than anything else. To-hit and AC ought to be worse when you're drunk. 18:31 <@Demo> today's been a highly productive day for ndnh, but not much else 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5303 18:32 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:15768 18:35 aosdict: I'm referencing the Jackie Chan film "Drunken Master". He gets trashed on methanol and defeats the bad guys in spectacular manner. 18:36 <@ChrisANG> I believe there is a small to-hit penalty for being confused. You get an AC bonus because you're swaying all over the place, and you arrange to always sway out of the way of any attacks because you're Just That Good at martial arts. 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:16939 18:37 <@ChrisANG> What's that Journey to the West knockoff (also with Jackie Chan, I believe)? 18:37 <@ChrisANG> The Forbidden Kingdom 18:38 * aosdict hasn't really seen many/any jackie chan movies 18:39 why do monsters pick up globs of green slime. Is it acidic? Does that mean if I stone them with a trice corpse they'll eat the slime and turn into a green slime? 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6034 18:41 <@rikersan> it's a stoning cure, yes. I believe they don't actually eat it tho 18:42 the fools 18:44 <@Tone> Monsters will eat acidic corpses in vanilla 18:45 <@rikersan> I think they don't eat slime tho 18:45 <@Tone> to prevent stoning 18:45 green slime is a stoning cure? It's not acidic. 18:45 <@Tone> oh green slime, missed that part 18:45 Do they think it's better to become a slime than a statue? 18:45 <@rikersan> it is according ot the wiki 18:45 <@rikersan> looks like only salamanders eat it tho, cuz they're immune to slime (fire-based) 18:46 <@Tone> as a player can you eat a green slime then light yourself on fire to prevent stoning then sliming? 18:46 <@rikersan> yes you should be able ot 18:46 <@rikersan> yea aosdict they're acidic according to monst.c 18:47 <@rikersan> just no acid damage 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 14957 points, T:8027, killed by a soldier ant 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:21468 18:54 aosdict: Drunken Master is worth a viewing. The dubbed version is really good - JC does his own dubbing. 19:01 aosdict heh 19:06 <[Demo]> whats a good name for an evil forest branch full of mean bad plants and stuff? 19:06 <[Demo]> and BAD BITERS that live in there too 19:10 The Dark Forest, The Forbidden Woods, The Haunted Forest 19:10 The Forbidden Forest (harry potter) 19:11 The Black Forest 19:11 unless you are looking for a more specific place-name 19:13 <[Demo]> I don't want any centaurs in it no centaurs 19:14 <[Demo]> i do like the idea of unicorns 19:15 <[Demo]> might just use black forest idk 19:17 <@Luxidream> !whereis Glord 19:17 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] Glord [tnnt]: (Arc Gno Fem Neu) T:681 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 19:18 -!- kozet has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 47 points, T:208, killed by a goblin 19:34 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 250 points, T:720, killed by a jackal 19:44 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45510 19:44 [hdf-us] [tnnt] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:45511 19:55 <@Tone> [Demo]: Call it "If a man dies in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does he make a sound?" 19:56 <[Demo]> this is a nethack branch not a fallout boy song, that name is way too long :P 19:56 LOL 19:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Glord (Arc Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3486 19:57 <[Demo]> then again the same thing could be said about the illithanachronounbinder role 19:57 <[Demo]> which is so much fun to type when you know how to spell it 19:57 It is fun to say too 19:57 a noun binder? 19:57 :P 19:58 il-lithan-achro-noun-binder 19:58 <[Demo]> ill-ith-ana-chrono-un-binder 19:59 isn't the "illith" part one chunk? 19:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:37776 19:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37777 20:00 <[Demo]> well yeah 20:01 <[Demo]> theres no consistency in that - out 20:01 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Glord (Arc Gno Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3773 20:01 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Glord (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed for the first time, on T:3777 20:07 bhaak: I can't imagine anyone who isn't completely ignorant of the history of the word "roguelike", seriously arguing that Rogue *was* a roguelike. 20:08 Is Latin a Romance language? 20:08 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:43503 20:09 <[Demo]> uh yeah 20:09 <[Demo]> are semantics fucking dumb? :P 20:10 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:46995 20:10 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:31823 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Rog Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5465 20:11 uh, no. 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3055 points, T:5466, quit 20:11 a Romance language is one defined as being a successor language of Latin. so, Latin is not one 20:12 Exactly analagous. 20:12 whereas with the term roguelike, the case is different 20:12 first, does "-like" exclude "identical"? 20:13 That's entirely ignoring the history of the term. 20:13 second, the term roguelike was coined after there have been several other games in the spirit of rogue. it was not rogue that defined it but the whole set of similar games. 20:13 That part's true. 20:14 so, rogue falls under that definition of whatever features were deemed roguelikish 20:14 although the only codified set of features would be in the Berlin interpretation. 20:15 The Berlin interpretation came much later, and was never intended to be a definition. 20:16 it contains weighted features for a game being considered a roguelike 20:16 although its main task was to end the discussions of what game is a roguelike or not 20:17 It did not accomplish that. 20:17 I prefer the 1994 definition. From when the term "roguelike" was coined. 20:17 no, it didn't. but most discussions died down anyway shortly afterwards 20:17 Err, late '93, early '94. 20:18 Other terms were considered, e.g., "dungon crawler", but were rejected as overbroad. 20:18 Eventually, even though many felt it was awkward, the proposed term "roguelike" won out. 20:19 People felt that e.g. Zork might be a dungeon crawler, but it clearly was not the kind of game people were talking about in context. 20:20 IIRC Slashie's talk correctly, roguelike was already created back then as an umbrella term, including rogue, nethack, and angband 20:22 I find it telling that permadeath was not discussed at all back then. Probably because *lots* of videogames in that era had permadeath, so it wasn't really remarkable. 20:22 if rogue weren't a roguelike, the newsgroup rec.games.roguelike.rogue would be misplaced. that's impossible 20:22 <[Demo]> lol 20:22 Hmm. 20:22 * jonadab contemplates getting someone to newgroup rec.games.roguelike.supermariobrothers 20:23 rec is not alt :) 20:23 Ah, perhaps not. 20:24 Though these days, there are like six nntp servers total worldwide, so the number of people who would have to accept it is small :-) 20:24 but some have German admins 20:24 you won't get shit past their radar :-D 20:25 I was not aware of that. 20:25 * jonadab actually participated in a newsgroup creation once, but it was indeed in alt. 20:25 Which still required some discussion, unlike free.* 20:26 at least the eternal september newsservers have German admins 20:27 <@Tone> Just a heads up, streaming some nethack for the first time in a while. Continuing a 362 priest game I started a while ago, at soko now and looking to reach the castle tonight. 20:27 <@Tone> link: https://www.twitch.tv/tonelive 20:28 There was also comp.society.women, but that was before my time. 20:28 German usenet had their own alt hierarchy (de.alt.*). no hierarchy comparable to free. at least not under de.*. de.alt was intended as sub hierarchy with a simplified newsgroup creation process. but it was only lightweight compared to the de.* creation process :) 20:29 I was somewhat surprised that they only started defining a term in the mid 90s 20:30 there were so many games around for such a long time. 20:30 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class R), on T:48077 20:30 I have to check how larn, nethack, omega, moria were described on the PD disks I got them from 20:30 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 20:30 -!- hf_guest_25737 has joined #hardfought 20:32 Larn: This disk contains a port of the popular UNIX game "Larn". 20:32 s/Larn/Hack for Hack 20:33 Omega is similar to hack or rogue, but much more complex. 20:35 hmm, NetHack 2.3 didn't even get a proper description, just "too big to fit on one disk, this is part 1, part 2 is on the next" 20:35 NetHack 3.0: "A screen oriented fantasy game where your goal ..." 20:35 Moria: A single player dungeon simulation 20:36 Hack Lite is a dungeon adventure game in the style of Rogue, Hack, Moria, etc. 20:37 interesting, I would have expected more descriptive texts. 20:38 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:48413 20:41 -!- Cassieopeia has joined #hardfought 20:43 -!- hf_guest_25737 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 20:43 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:45963 20:43 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:48482 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:27922 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27926 20:50 -!- tempest has joined #hardfought 20:50 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:48583 20:50 -!- uniusz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:51 loved Moria. Those scrolls of recall to go between town and the dungeon were money 20:51 Anyone know if Splicehack's infernal is supposed to display normal or hungerless regeneration? Nethackwikia says one thing, but my tests say another. 20:51 Angband is like that too 20:53 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 20:57 ehhh kill my faithful dog ;/ 20:57 but game going nice 20:57 grg sleep, cya o/ 20:57 tempest: leave a message for antigulp I guess 20:57 -!- uniusz has quit [Client Quit] 20:58 <@Luxidream> nethackwikia? 20:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:49014 21:00 the unholy union 21:01 erm, nethackwiki. It is late and I was being harassed by a four year old that *should* be well asleep. 21:02 I'll do that, thanks. 21:02 <@Theyflower> Do they sell toddler tranquilizer 21:02 <@Theyflower> LOL 21:02 <@Luxidream> how were you testing the nutrition? 21:02 I have fantasized about it many, many times. 21:02 <@Luxidream> I didn't notice any difference when I played 21:03 <@Theyflower> I love how well I sniped your "I'll try that, thanks" 21:03 I tested it some on the hardfoughts version, but I compiled it from source to be sure. Measuring the turns between "hungry" and "weak". 21:04 It lined up exactly with another race wearing a ring of regeneration. 21:05 <@Luxidream> ah, I see 21:05 <@Luxidream> yeah just !tell AntiGulp about it 21:06 <@Luxidream> splice has a lot of bugs to iron out 21:06 [hdf-us] [tnnt] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:40384 21:07 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:49346 21:08 God, it has been so long since I have tried to do something like leave a message in IRC. I have to relearn how to use irc every few years when I again get obsessed with Nethack. 21:09 I got cornered by a mindflayer. Any good suggestions for dealing with them in close combat? I have no attack wands or scrolls of scare monster. 21:10 difficulty: I'm a priest. 21:10 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:46739 21:10 <@Luxidream> elbereth or other escape items 21:11 <@Luxidream> I think they don't follow 21:11 -!- tempest has quit [Quit: *poof*] 21:11 <@Luxidream> bouquet: in unnethack mind flayer amnesia is removed I think 21:12 <@Luxidream> however your unicorn horn will not work to restore int 21:12 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:46747 21:12 -!- tempest has joined #hardfought 21:12 though unnethack keeps cthulhu amnesia 21:12 <@Theyflower> Yasi: allow you to wear a scroll of amnesia as a hat and for it to instakill mind flayers if they try to eat your brain 21:12 <@Luxidream> we don't talk about cthulhu 21:13 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:46758 21:14 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:46762 21:20 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 21:21 tempest: oh hey there's antigulp now 21:21 ohai 21:21 AntiGulp: Message from aosdict at 2018-10-09 13:25 EDT: Can you get amalgamations of spiders and humans and if so are they spiderman 21:22 Oooh the TNNT site looks nice 21:22 [backscroll] splice definitely has quite a few bugs (plus the wiki is pretty out of date). I’ll look into infernal regen. 21:25 Need to choose a clan hmmmm 21:26 clan tnnt 21:26 masters of 3.6.2-dev 21:26 <[Demo]> join clan homoslexual joy! 21:29 Antigulp, is Splicehack's infernal supposed to have hungerless or normal regeneration? 21:30 I love the name of homoslexual joy that I almost want to join it on that alone, but tnnt needs people. Aosdict, invite me? 21:30 <[Demo]> wait does homoslexual joy even have members? 21:30 tempest: Should be normal regen. 21:30 AntiGulp: done 21:31 <[Demo]> oh wow amy bundled up some people 21:31 I'm not totally certain that tnnt will actually be a thing in the tournament, so if I end up disbanding it, go to HSJ 21:31 I have tested on hardfought, and finally compiled my own from source. It is definitely normal hungered regen. 21:31 Oh, right. I misread. Thanks! 21:32 Wait no I misread, it’s supposed to be hungerless. Huh, that bug must have been there since 0.0.1. 21:32 Is there any way to use a silver magic lamp as an infernal? I only have fingerless gloves, so I wasn't sure if full fingered would allow me to apply or rub it. 21:32 Okay, I wanted to ask before I filed a proper issue on github. 21:33 I spent way too much time figuring out how to compile it to test in wizard mode. It was far more interesting than actually working. 21:33 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:50986 21:35 tempest: Hmmm, not sure on the infernal part. Honestly infernals are the source of like half the bugs in splice for some reason 21:36 interesting backscroll... 21:36 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:46870 21:41 I have to ask before I start another game, are Angels the other half of the bugs? 21:42 so no amnesia from mindflayers in Un? That's good news. I have a blessed potion of restore ability for the int loss. 21:44 tempest: No, angels are solid. They’re also what people used for 2 out of the top 3 ascensions. They’re pretty powerful. 21:44 <[Demo]> angels dont have bugs cause they are too simple? :P 21:45 I mean you’re not wrong. Was going to add a technique that allowed them to banish demons into gehennom at one point though :D 21:46 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:51135 21:46 <@Luxidream> I don't think they're very special right now 21:47 <@Luxidream> even though their race description says that many races are peaceful to them, basically nothing is 21:47 <@Luxidream> so they are flying humans with a lower str cap 21:55 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "The Holographic Void Lily", on T:7528 21:55 Looks like I can't apply a silver lamp, but I can rub it. 21:56 Odd. Guess I’ll look into that. 21:56 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Glord (Arc Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a lizard, on T:7585 21:56 Newt on level 4 just dropped a can of grease. I’ll take that 21:57 That must be some newt... 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] toneLive (Pri Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12226 21:59 a greasy newt 21:59 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Glord (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 486 points, T:7797, died of starvation, while fainted 21:59 YASI: If a monster drops a can of grease, its corpse will give you greasy fingers. 22:01 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 22:04 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:52228 22:07 [hdf-us] [tnnt] antigulp (Bar Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gnome corpse, on T:3508 22:08 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:48722 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:32183 22:17 [hdf-us] [tnnt] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 987 points, T:2296, killed by a black pudding 22:22 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:53258 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:32769 22:27 Is there a good way to adjust the colors using putty, so that dark blue isn't so hard to see? 22:28 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53692 22:28 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53694 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 723 points, T:1230, killed by a magic missile 22:32 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:53896 22:33 tempest: You should be able to set it under "Colours" as part of configuring a connection. 22:33 [hdf-us] [tnnt] antigulp (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5960 22:35 tempest: You can also change it by right-clicking on the title bar and selecting "change settings" 22:35 I'm not sure if it will persist between sessions if you do that. 22:35 So it is, thanks Chris. It has been a couple of years since I was binging on your dNethack variant. I have to relearn from scratch. 22:41 -!- Tempest_nano has joined #hardfought 22:45 -!- tempest has quit [Quit: *poof*] 22:45 :) 22:48 How dare these shopkeepers not accept my diamonds as legal tender? 22:49 <@Demo> shoot him 22:49 <@Demo> add guns to spl 22:49 I’m playing tnnt 22:49 Also no 22:49 <@Luxidream> phew 22:49 <@Demo> @tnnt add guns to tnnt 22:50 <@Luxidream> add gun chest 22:50 <@Demo> yes 22:50 <@Luxidream> swap chest but only for guns 22:50 <@Demo> you trade diamonds for guns 22:51 <@Demo> and the shoot shopkeepers 22:51 “Business is bad.” Well maybe you shouldn’t have spent 2000 gp on a single diamond, which my cat then immediately stole? That’s just not a good investment! 22:51 <@Demo> name your cat pink panther 22:52 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:53 Too late their names are “Johnny Nero, Action Hero” and “Tiki tiki tembo no sa rembo chari bari ruchi pip peri pembo.” It makes combat logs a nightmare. 22:53 Oh wait, Johnny is dead now. RIP. 22:53 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:51278 22:53 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Eleven (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:51278 22:54 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:38569 22:59 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9864 23:07 -!- tacco| has quit [] 23:34 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 23:37 is it possible that my quest level generated somewhere other than between dlvl 11-16? 23:37 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57822 23:38 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:57836 23:38 never got the "look for an ...ic transporter" message anywhere 23:39 nevermind, found it finally 23:40 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:57884 23:50 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:58150 23:50 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:58153 23:52 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 23:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:58 [hdf-us] [tnnt] Chansu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58454