00:14 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 14019 points, T:9261, killed by an ettin mummy 00:36 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:29 -!- Crawldragon has joined #hardfought 01:32 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 01:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Con Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10919 01:50 <@lapis> huh, sol valtiva can just spawn in the wild 01:50 <@lapis> good to know 02:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:07 @Luxidream: SLASH'EM probably lets you dual-wield firearms; SLEX certainly does. And you can fire them in different directions in the same turn. :D 02:10 damn I wish ais523 was here... I could tell him how I tried to fix the "you usually blank almost all your potions and make 200 holy water out of them" problem in slex 02:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:15 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Con Orc Fem Cha), 78443 points, T:15223, killed by an energy vortex 03:10 <@bugsniper> I forgot, does slashem have rocket launchers? 03:10 yes, but in regular slashem, a max str/con character with no other items in main inventory could carry at most a rocket launcher and 2 rockets before being burdened 03:11 i.e. they're so impractical that basically no one ever uses them; slex made weights sane of course, so they became usable :P 03:11 <@shadowsapex> I don't get it. why did my pet balrog turn on me 03:11 <@shadowsapex> I was trying on rings but I'm pretty sure it wasn't conflict 03:11 <@shadowsapex> also I am going to die 03:12 @shadowsapex: dnethack? it has the "traitor" monster flag that also slashem has, and the balrog is probably a traitorious monster 03:12 <@shadowsapex> dnethack 03:12 <@shadowsapex> alright, so, it turns traitor on random? 03:13 if the traitor code in dnethack is the same as in slashem, it can randomly turn traitor if it thinks it's stronger than you 03:13 1 in X chance per turn, not sure what the number for X is 03:13 however, there should also be a message, like "The balrog turns on you!" or "You feel uneasy about your balrog." when it happens 03:13 <@shadowsapex> cute 03:14 also, probably unrelated, but dnethack also makes it so that you can't have more than X pets at the same time, with X depending on petkeeping skill and charisma, but if the balrog was your only pet then that can't be the reason 03:14 <@bugsniper> yeah, that explains it 03:15 <@shadowsapex> right, that wasn't so hard. slow devil. looks like i'm not going to die 03:17 <@bugsniper> and does slex have the plasma rifle and shrink ray and double shotgun? 03:20 it has blasters (i.e. laser guns) and auto shotguns, if those count 03:21 oh and also a BFG, Tariru used it to one-shot Dispater in one of his runs :D 03:24 <@bugsniper> I see 03:28 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Val Hum Fem Law) shouted "Help", on T:615 04:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Guest32335] by ChanServ 04:19 -!- Guest32335 is now known as irina|log 04:19 -!- lonjil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:22 -!- lonjil has joined #hardfought 05:10 You are hit by a little dart. You feel strong! 05:12 What do you want to eat? [oz or ?*] 05:32 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:46 -!- Crawldragon has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [SeaMonkey 2.49.4/20180713174829]] 05:48 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:39 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:50 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh343] u42586 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 10773 points, T:3521, killed by a leocrotta 07:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] u42586 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 317 points, T:1185, killed by a gas spore's explosion 08:18 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 08:24 <[Demo]> if i put a corpse timer on a weapon what would happen? 08:25 it would rot 08:26 and then you'd be sad 08:26 <[Demo]> it would probably crash something i guess? i have no idea how corpse timers work 08:26 <[Demo]> i have an interesting idea to replace monk with mystic and it can do things like create temporary armour and weapons 08:28 [Demo]: You would probably want to define your own timers. 08:29 [Demo]: slex used to have a bug where I incorrectly put a rot timer on gauntlets, and... well, guess what happened (hint: it is an 8-letter word that starts with "s" :D) 08:29 "swarming" 08:29 <[Demo]> swooning? 08:30 if you mean "people swarming me with bug reports" or "people swooning about the amy who managed to make the game crash" then yes :D 08:30 but yeah, it segfaulted of course 08:32 that said, I'm fairly sure I could make a weapon decay like a corpse, it would just require some adjustments, i.e. properly unwielding it when it rots away so you don't end up wielding a memory glitch object, and also the "Your %s corpse rots away." message would segfault if no obj->corpsenm is defined for the weapon 08:32 <[Demo]> Yeah I'd probably want to flavor it differently anyway 08:33 <[Demo]> trying to figure out if mystic should be a monk change or a seperate role altogether 08:33 annoyingly, back when that bug existed, it would crash only on the server and not when I was playing locally 08:33 <[Demo]> the other part of mystic is that you can set your punches to use pw to do bonus magic dmg 08:33 also back then I didn't know what a core dump was, so it took a while to remove the bug 08:35 gotta go now, will probably be back in a couple hours 08:35 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:37 [Demo]: marking this whole "temporary weapons and armor" thing as a YANI 08:41 <[Demo]> oh cool added a branch and now it sigabrts when it tries to make dungeon, yey 08:46 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 08:52 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9n9ow1/playerclan_sign_up_is_now_live_the_november/ 08:52 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59 <[Demo]> make: *** No rule to make target 'dat/icecaves.des', needed by 'dat/icecaves.tag'. Stop. 08:59 <[Demo]> its a mean one yeha 09:01 <[Demo]> makes it look like a makefile issue but im pretty sure it isnt 09:01 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 09:03 <[Demo]> ok someone is really bad at pluralization 09:22 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 09:28 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 09:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:43 blind game and smoky potion looks like it's object detection. sweeeet 09:54 nooodle did you see my message last night about game being recovered from a backup copy? 09:56 yes! thank you so much. I'll check it out in a moment 10:00 cool 10:04 K2: "There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn] (n)" 10:04 when I say no, it exits back to menu 10:05 dammit... ok one sec 10:06 ok i see 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] u42586 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 358 points, T:1232, killed by a gnome lord 10:06 old hold over .0 file 10:06 i always miss those 10:06 ok go for it 10:07 yay thank you! looks good 10:07 whew 10:32 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:34 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:47 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 42568 points, T:17056, killed by an elf-lord, while sleeping 10:48 Pinkbeast: I've invited you into my tnnt clan, do you want to join? we'll rock the tournament again just like we did in junethack :) 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2467 points, T:1695, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:11305 10:57 LarienTelrunya dont go crazy with the invites. their will be team limits, we just havent decided on a number yet 10:57 K2: anti-amy feature :P I have to invite good players then 10:57 is there an estimate what the limit will be? 3? 6? 10? or completely undecided as of now? 10:58 somewhere between 10-16 most likely, but again, i dont know yet for sure 10:58 ah ok 10:59 the only certainty is yes, their will be a limit 10:59 *there 11:01 well that just means I have to munchkin together a team that can score many ascensions :D 11:01 imagine that 11:02 high score through skill vs brute force numbers 11:02 whatever will you do ;) 11:02 how about high score through a combination of both :D 11:02 actually, team scoring will be different from junethack 11:02 details to follow 11:03 oh... I guess this is not like junethack, and dead weight players *will* drag you down? 11:03 details to follow 11:03 once I know what the actual rules are, I can minmax stuff much better :P 11:04 can't wait to see those details ;) 11:04 Does anyone want to let me into their clan :3 11:10 And does "details to follow" mean "we have no idea yet" 11:11 -!- ais523_ has joined #hardfought 11:13 ais523_: hi! you were saying something about players blanking almost every potion? slex fixed that by making it so that 33% of all potions simply cannot be blanked, polymorphed or cancelled, and those will therefore have to be used for their actual purpose :D 11:13 Or you could've tried making useful potions 11:14 -!- ais523__ has joined #hardfought 11:14 some of them *are* useful!! potions of paralysis in particular can be invaluable 11:14 I blame the browser :-P 11:14 -!- ais523_ has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:14 -!- ais523__ is now known as ais523_ 11:14 LarienTelrunya: Are you going to go as the Slexy Robber Nymphetes again? 11:14 ais523_: did you see my message or shall I send it again? 11:14 PavelB: nah, re-using the same team name is boring. Our clan is called "HomoslexualJoy" :D 11:15 I saw at least one message by you, but resend it because a) there might have been others, b) I lost all my scrollback when that happend 11:15 *happened 11:15 ok: [17:13] ais523_: hi! you were saying something about players blanking almost every potion? slex fixed that by making it so that 33% of all potions simply cannot be blanked, polymorphed or cancelled, and those will therefore have to be used for their actual purpose :D 11:15 and the game tells the player which ones they are 11:15 same for scrolls and spellbooks 11:16 that makes a surprising amount of sense game-mechanically (more than I was expecting from a slex mechanism, at least) 11:16 but it may be quite hard to explain in terms of flavour 11:16 can they be alchemised? 11:16 alchemy or unihorn dipping works for them, yes 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] u42586 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1846 points, T:2876, killed by a jaguar 11:17 also, slex has tons of little mechanisms that are different from vanilla and some of those may fit into other variants, even if the vast majority probably doesn't ;) 11:17 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 6490 points, T:3327, killed by a gargoyle 11:19 !who 11:19 PavelB: [hdf-us] mightyquinn [sp] hypnotistBlind [nh362] Luxidream [nh4] Leeroy [slex] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh4] new value for name rejected (Luxidream) (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 264456 points, T:56132, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-10-11%2015%3A21%3A13%2C%20new%20value%20for%20name%20rejected-Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 11:21 Grats @Luxidream 11:23 @Luxidream: thanks for all those character names that may become slex scroll labels one day *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 11:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:25 PavelB: 'details to follow' means there's more info than just a one line blurb 11:25 easier to put all the info on the site and let everyone read it 11:25 weird inconsistency that when you are blind and engulfed you can still tell what the engulfing monster is... wonder if that was intentional 11:25 it's not obviously broken 11:26 most people don't have experience of being swallowed whole but I'd think that even without vision, there'd be a lot of clues as to what sort of creature you were inside 11:26 You feel around and guess... energy vortex? 11:26 right, most v should be very obvious 11:28 if so then why can't you also tell what some creatures are when bumping into them 11:30 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:30 *feels yeti beard obnoxiously* 11:30 ais523_: are you going to participate in the tnnt tournament too? 11:35 not sure, quite possibly not, I don't have much time for actually playing games nowadays 11:36 the amount of effort it takes me to play NetHack, I sort of feel like I'd prefer to direct it to something creative… 11:36 and me playing NetHack is creative/art in a sense, but it's pretty niche as canvasses go 11:37 so you're going to mod nethack instead? ;) 11:38 K2: if I accidentally click on leave or disband on the tnnt page, do I get a confirmation or will everything be lost unconditionally? 11:38 Why don't you find out 11:38 <@Luxidream> K2: will ascension ratio count towards clan score 11:39 <@Luxidream> that's going to discourage a lot of play I think 11:39 IMO one of the most important properties a tournament can have is that playing never hurts your score or your clan's score 11:40 (which is one reason I'm reluctant to put limits on clan sizes, as then joining a clan can hurt its score by preventing a better player joining) 11:41 ^^ I couldn't have summarized it any better 11:41 thanks ais523_! 11:42 LarienTelrunya - currently it just happens 11:42 "it" = the decision for how it will work? 11:44 @Luxidream - I dont have the scoring details in front of me. the philosophy is that scoring will cater to players of all skill levels 11:45 quote from the draft we made - 'As a general rule, achievements and trophies that can be achieved by more than one player will only count towards the clan score once. Other members of the clan can do those achievements, and it will count towards their individual score, but it will not contribute to the clan score. The reason for this is first, to prevent large point accumulations from 11:45 doing easy things many times, and second, to make clan strategy more interesting.' 11:46 I think most tournaments came to the same conclusion 11:46 <@Luxidream> I think devnull tribute did not do this 11:46 it didnt 11:46 <@Luxidream> multiple players getting full monty would contribute more than once 11:47 we stuck to how the original dev/null scored things 11:47 for tribute 11:47 another quote - 'The main difference between the Devnull system and the proposed TNNT system is that the Devnull system was largely built on a chain, with each achievement reached superseding the last. The proposed TNNT system is cumulative, so that once points are earned, they don’t go away. 11:47 In general, the scoring system seeks to have some goals which are achievable by players who have not ascended yet, or still find it difficult to ascend, some goals which will be interesting for serial ascenders, and some which will keep truly elite players busy.' 11:47 multiple players getting full monty is unlikely to happen anyway :-) 11:48 <@Luxidream> right, but that's true for dilithium star, etc as well 11:49 I like this system better than a cumulative one. 11:49 It seems more inclusive. 11:50 <@Luxidream> hopefully there isn't "the berry: streak 13 MAXINT games" or something like that 11:50 shouldnt be 11:51 let me add - first year doing this, there are bound to be mistakes made, issues to resolve, finding better way of doing things, etc 11:52 so over the years, this will just get better and better 11:52 maxinting is supposed to be harder in 3.6.x 11:52 although it wouldn't surprise me if there were still fairly efficient ways 11:52 <@Luxidream> I guess you would need giant farming 11:52 <@Luxidream> gold dupe doesn't work anymore 11:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:52 feedback and constructive critizism is welcome. just dont be an asshole about it :) 11:53 <@Luxidream> no fastest realtime 😦 11:54 <@Luxidream> any particular reason why this was removed? 11:56 -!- ais523_ has quit [Quit: meeting] 11:56 all - correction: no team limits this year 11:56 LarienTelrunya go nuts 11:57 ... woah 11:57 we'll see how it goes and see if we need to impose limits for year 2 11:57 K2: really? is that the final decision? 11:57 yeah we came to that conclusion as a whole (tnnt devteam) and I forgot 11:57 my bad 11:57 ah cool :D 11:57 PavelB: do you want to join? ♥ 11:57 the code currently has no restrictions 11:58 <@Luxidream> I really hope these role and race trophies aren't high score 11:58 @Luxidream: not sure 11:58 about the fastest realtime 11:58 In that case: ping me if anyone wants to join Order of the Cockatrice 11:58 <@Luxidream> that was quite possibly the most tedious part of the devnull tournament 11:59 introsp3ctive: Sure 11:59 <@Luxidream> getting high scores on every role 11:59 PavelB: sent 11:59 Yay 11:59 <@Luxidream> K2: If it was just forgotten, I suppose it's too late to add on? 12:01 nothing is too late yet 12:01 will run it by the team 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] u42586 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 486 points, T:915, killed by a hobbit 12:11 <@shadowsapex> dnethack, what do I wish for? 12:11 tie-dye shirt of shambhala probably 12:11 <@shadowsapex> would like better ac but a weapon would be great too 12:12 <@shadowsapex> that'd help 12:12 <@shadowsapex> but well, I need better ac now. about to go into a tough fight 12:13 @shadowsapex good luck 12:13 <@shadowsapex> heh. thanks. 12:17 -!- taylskid has joined #hardfought 12:18 LarienTelrunya: [backscroll] When ais523 changes nethack it's not "modding", it's "development". 12:18 PavelB: [backscroll] You dirty rotten ootc traitor! :P 12:18 aosdict: :D 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh362] taylskid (Val Hum Fem Law), 480 points, T:964, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 12:18 oops 12:18 :D 12:19 <@Demo> is ito nntntntnting? 12:19 aosdict: If you want to do ITO again I can still switch 12:20 lol clan shit is also there again :P 12:20 <@Demo> ito is good cause then every run I can name tin openers I find after ito insults 12:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] shadowsapex (Brd Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 soulmirror", on T:21917 12:21 LarienTelrunya: I think stenno put it in as a joke and is going to disband it 12:21 why am I the only one who is actually using different clan names every tournament? 12:21 branding 12:21 in junethack 2019, we'll be the slexual justice warriors :D 12:21 LarienTelrunya: I expect a new flag each time :P 12:22 way back in the day i used to play with a counterstrike clan called 'somebody else's problem' 12:22 love that team name 12:22 PavelB: of course there will be a new one in 2019 :) 12:22 K2: when I played Counter-Strike, I often gave myself the nickname "Ärschie-Miesie" :D 12:22 is that german for 'psychopath' ? 12:23 hahaha, it's a bit of a mix of "asshole" and "badguy" 12:23 <@Demo> whenever I do cs lans I use a play on my irl name and a racial slur 12:23 heh 12:23 @Demo racial slur... really 12:23 cmon man 12:24 <@Demo> well it's not because I changed the first letter 12:24 <@kritixilithos> "demOrc" 12:24 I used to play with a Dota clan called TeamSWAG 12:24 Our captain named himself "Bulba" and the rest of us were "Bulba's Goon #1", "#2", etc. 12:24 That's what passed for funny to us back in middle school 12:24 <@Demo> but if you are angry and you read my name wrong... 12:26 PavelB: I never got into Dota because it seemed really like it could have benefited from some procedurally generated maps. Instead, every game I ever watched looked the same. 12:26 @kritixilithos: I should make a slex role that starts with "Dem" :D 12:27 zerg 12:27 aosdict: It's *really* hard to understand what's going on by watching if you don't have a lot of experience 12:27 demagogue? 12:27 Imagine trying to watch a chess game without knowing chess, you wouldn't think it's a particularly interesting game either. 12:28 <@Demo> demoralizer 12:28 <@Demo> demon master 12:28 sounds like to steep of a learning curve to catch my interest then 12:28 too* 12:28 <@Luxidream> People watch football without knowing formations or strategy 12:28 <@shadowsapex> lol. I didn't die 12:29 aosdict: Maybe. I can't think of many games with a steeper curve, really. Maybe some grand strategy games like EU4. 12:29 <@Demo> the genre dota is in isn't a good genre 12:30 It's fun once you get into it 12:30 It's just hard to get into 12:31 * K2 likes chess 12:31 Chess is fun 12:31 <@Demo> I went through a chess phase in the duration of like a few weeks and then I was done 12:31 I know a guy who swears by Arimaa and refuses to play chess 12:31 <@kritixilithos> Chess But With NetHack Characters: starring Grid Bug the Bishop, ... 12:32 <@Demo> lol 12:32 <@Luxidream> Play chess 12:32 <@Luxidream> hang piece 12:32 <@Luxidream> mash resign button 12:32 <@Luxidream> quit angrily 12:32 Now I get to look up Arimaa 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1117 points, T:1834, killed by a jaguar 12:33 <@Demo> I wouldn't like nethack if I hadn't got over the difficulty curve 12:33 i used to play chess *all the time* 12:33 had a real world ranking of just over 2000 for a short time 12:33 now its prob closer to 15-1600 12:34 i havent played in awhile 12:35 <@Luxidream> Isn’t 2100 national master level 12:36 i think so 12:36 this was 20 yrs ago, i'm sure the ranking has changed 12:37 my dad started me on chess when i was 5, we'd play every weekend without fail, for years 12:37 <@Luxidream> I was like a 1400 player 12:37 <@Luxidream> teach me senses 12:37 <@Luxidream> sensei 12:37 good exercise for the brain 12:37 hei 12:37 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 12:37 * K2 smacks Beholder 12:38 Is there like a regex for matching "hi"-like terms somewhere 12:38 K2: similar story, except he wasn't very good and I got better (am probably around an average player now), so at some point the game just stopped being fun when I could massacre him with only a king, queen, and 8 pawns :P 12:38 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 12:38 :) 12:38 do you play chess with your daughter? 12:39 I played checkers a lot 12:39 dad didnt go easy on me. i remember throwing a few tantrums early on. i dont think i started winning against my dad until age 10 or so 12:39 aosdict: i introduced chess to her at age 4. she wasnt very interested then 12:39 yeah I can imagine 12:39 now that she's 6, we need to revisit 12:39 she does like checkers 12:40 My dad murders me at checkers though 12:40 i havent lost a game of checkers since 3rd grade 12:40 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Val Hum Fem Law) shouted "Help", on T:3333 12:40 I'd always end up losing like 5 pieces in a row 12:40 But I beat everyone else I play against 12:41 still working with mini-me on recognizing dbl jumps 12:41 and that sometimes its best to not jump a piece right away 12:42 <@Tone> I went through a chess phase in college 12:43 <@Tone> Been wanting to get some regular play back into my schedule, but time is scarce 12:43 checkers is actually a great primer for chess for kids 12:43 Is anyone posting TNNT signup announcment on rgrn 12:43 i havent yet 12:43 i will 12:49 today 12:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:00 <@Luxidream> K2: you don’t play with forced capture? 13:01 not yet 13:01 not with my kid 13:01 i want her to learn to think ahead and play out scenarios in her head 13:02 more possibilities w/o forced capture 13:02 <@Demo> do you ever play nethack with ur kid? 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] WrathofDog (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1208 points, T:2485, killed by a gnome lord 13:04 @Demo see watches me sometimes 13:04 there is one player who plays slex with his little daughter :D sadly he hasn't been on the IRC in a while though, despite me seeing him play lately 13:05 if she gets into it, great 13:05 but her reading needs to improve a bit more 13:05 she's only in 1st grade still 13:06 Does she use vikeys or numpad? 13:06 numpad for life 13:06 <@Demo> nethack is part of the reason I learned to read and spell 13:06 dread the time when she asks what a succubus is 13:07 You turn that off 13:07 i'd prob just tell her its a demon that likes to give 'lots of kissies and hugs' 13:07 There's a seduction setting 13:08 PavelB: not if she's watching K2 13:08 and it's a compile time option so he'd have to have a separate build 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5452 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a kobold zombie, on T:5542 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 382 points, T:1457, killed by a small mimic 13:26 i'd just make an account for her online 13:26 mini-K2 hahahah 13:29 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2499 13:31 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 13:35 awwwwwwwwwwwww *bundlebundlebundlebundlebundle* her two "brush bundles" are sooooooo cuuuuuuute! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 13:35 oh god 13:35 i forgot you were in the channel 13:35 :P 13:36 can you tell her that I find her hairstyle super cute? :) 13:36 LarienTelrunya: She's, like, seven years old, or something. 13:36 the pony tail braids are part of the valkyrie hat 13:37 argh! and I thought she really had such hair! 13:37 she just has normal long hair for a kid of 6 13:37 At least the photo doesn't show her footwear. 13:37 jonadab yeah good call 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 27431 points, T:11574, killed by a blue jelly 13:52 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:24397 14:09 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/tournaments/ 14:09 ^ that needed to happen awhile ago 14:09 better late than never 14:31 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Val Hum Fem Law), 3296 points, T:3803, killed by a Mordor orc 14:35 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 73 points, T:351, killed by a sewer rat 14:41 -!- Luxidwarf has joined #hardfought 14:42 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 14:50 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:51 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] WrathofDog (Sam Hum Fem Law), 68 points, T:43, killed by a water moccasin 14:52 -!- Luxidwarf has quit [Quit: *poof*] 14:59 [hdf-us] [slshm] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 151 points, T:297, poisoned by an elven dagger 15:01 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: *poof*] 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] jim (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1288 points, T:2865, quit 15:06 [hdf-us] [un] jankster (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided kobolds locally on T:5 15:16 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 15:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] KaiHerd (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3413 points, T:1516, killed by a winter wolf cub 15:27 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 15:54 <@Tone> !asc tonelive 15:54 @Tone: [hdf-us] tonelive has ascended 2 times in 4 games (50.00%): nh362:2 (66.67%) | [hdf-eu] tonelive has ascended 1 times in 406 games (0.25%): nh343:1 (0.61%) | [hdf-au] tonelive has not ascended in 118 games. 16:00 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of jankster, the former Fighter, on T:2076 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] taylskid (Val Hum Fem Law), 9876 points, T:3324, killed by a leocrotta 16:00 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Client Quit] 16:01 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "the greased corrodeproof holy magic mirror of merlin", on T:25884 16:05 [hdf-us] [spl] tempest (Pir Inf Fem Cha), 684 points, T:2847, killed by a hobbit 16:08 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had a quarterstaff bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:12362 16:09 <@Tone> What would a blind character need a mirror for? 😄 16:10 :D 16:11 nooodle: are you going to participate in the tnnt tournament? I'd love to have you in my team again ♥ 16:11 smoky object detection, and the first object detection i quaffed got me a wish 16:12 larientelrunya : Maybe yes? I may not be as active as I was for the cross-variant tournament 16:12 well, every little bit counts :) 16:13 in fact I'm not sure how much I'll play either, but maybe I can score at least one ascension 16:16 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 16:20 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:23 <@Demo> how does drunk nethack go? 16:24 you just drink and play I guess? I've played slex while drunk once, and amazingly didn't die :D 16:27 -!- tacco| has quit [] 16:27 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 16:28 <@Demo> hmm 16:28 <@Demo> I have a handle of vodka and some dnh games I need to to finish off this could be a Thursday night project 16:29 sounds like a plan :) 16:29 just don't take on the elder priest while drunk 16:30 <@Tone> Drink enough vodka and you may be able to wrap up those games really fast 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh343] WrathofDog (Sam Hum Mal Law), 891 points, T:1914, killed by Yeenoghu 16:36 <@shadowsapex> wow. how'd that happen 16:38 Maybe got summoned? 16:39 same race sacrifice yeah, he would have been hostile 16:39 i did that once. i forgot werefoo are @ 16:41 <@shadowsapex> ah. sounds about right. 16:49 werefoo are only same race if you're a human, though? 16:50 <@Demo> I sacrificed myself to moloch 16:51 bouquet: correct 16:53 K2: any chance we can get a tnnt achievement for ""died on the high altar with the amulet while naked and choking on a wumpus corpse"? 16:54 bouquet: you would ask me that, not K2. and no. 16:55 [shrug] 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] WrathofDog (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 55 points, T:218, killed by a newt 17:07 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had sling named Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:18381 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotistBlind (Cav Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:29451 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] WrathofDog (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 86 points, T:442, killed by a water elemental 17:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:18 wow, there are 162 possible achievements? Is there a guide somewhere on what some of these mean? Curious what "Hydrochloric" achievement is. Death by potion of acid? 17:23 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:28 bouquet sure 17:29 bouquet, mouse over each achievement 17:29 a little explanation of it pops up 17:29 and when the new template goes live, there will be more explanation of rules and trophies and such 17:32 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Tha Ang Mal Law) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:21284 17:38 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had a quarterstaff bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:23566 17:45 jilles if you make it to the ascension run back up with the amulet in your grunthack game, please let me know how it goes 17:45 one of my last commits, I got rid of the mysterious force, but monsters are supposed to gate in around you as you get close to the upstairs on each level (like sporkhack) 17:45 that didnt happen on my last gh asc 17:56 Evil Patch Idea: when the Mysterious Force _doesn't_ trigger, monsters from the Nasties list appear around you, and also around the up stair. 17:57 Evil Patch Idea: when the Mysterious Force _does_ trigger, monsters from the nasties list still generate around the up stair. 17:58 On both the level you were on, and the level you end up on. 17:58 EPI: which, when the MF sets you on the same level you're on, means a double batch. 18:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:17 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 18:18 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:29105 18:19 <@rikersan> @Demo if you do drunk dnh stream it please 18:19 <@rikersan> I'd watch the shit out of that 18:23 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 638 points, T:1731, killed by a rock piercer 18:26 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 18:26 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 18:29 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:31 <@Demo> no I won't stream that I don't want evidence of the dumb shit I'd say 18:33 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 18:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:38 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 18:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 18:43 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:29 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a titanothere, on T:5150 19:39 jonadab: it'd be neat if the monsters that appear on the upstairs hung around guarding it like sentries. 19:42 bouquet: That would require fundamental UI changes. 19:42 just a thought 19:42 Not saying it's a bad idea necessarily. 19:42 But it would have to be implemented by someone with AI coding chops. 19:42 Which is not me. 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 596 points, T:1434, killed by a crossbow bolt 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5857 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 12471 points, T:6712, killed by a lynx 19:46 sporkhack does that already jonadab 19:47 Oh? The guarding-the-stairs part? 19:48 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 19:52 jonadab: Why would it require UI changes? 19:54 Did I say UI? I meant AI. 19:54 Sorry, got my abbreviations crossed. 19:55 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 20:11 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 20:28 <@Luxidream> !tell K2 petition for score bonus for runs that are under 3 hours gametime 20:28 Will do, @Luxidream! 20:34 I've never had so much trouble finding a mummy in the mines. I just want a dang mummy wrapping! 20:35 <@Luxidream> !tell K2 to correspond with the bonus from turncount speedrunning 20:35 Will do, @Luxidream! 20:41 heh 20:41 K2: Message from @Luxidream at 2018-10-11 20:28 EDT: petition for score bonus for runs that are under 3 hours gametime 20:41 K2: Message from @Luxidream at 2018-10-11 20:35 EDT: to correspond with the bonus from turncount speedrunning 20:41 pretty sure we're adding fastest asc realtime 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3302 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 rustproof silver dragon scale mail", on T:3303 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 fireproof cloak of magic resistance", on T:3317 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 fireproof boots of speed", on T:3319 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +3 Grayswandir", on T:3322 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 greased fireproof helm of telepathy", on T:3359 20:50 <@Luxidream> yeah, I would like a parallel score bonus though, using ais523's definition of a realtime speedrun 20:50 <@Luxidream> do you think that would also be fair? 21:03 <@Luxidream> aosdict: how much is nethack master and nethack dominator worth 21:05 oh whoops 21:06 1000 and 2000 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 39 points, T:437, killed by a little dart 21:15 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 21:18 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:20 Anyone who wants to join Order of the Cockatrice for TNNT, ping me for an invite. 21:21 <@Tone> aosdict: Are those two trophies for clans or individuals? 21:26 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 21:27 @Tone They can be achieved as either, after a rather silly decision early on that they would be available only for individuals 21:28 <@Tone> ha, okay 21:28 <@Tone> Thanks 21:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:29 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:29 Or rather, still available to clans... but only if an individual in the clan did it all themselves. 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:4256 21:30 <@Tone> oh okay 21:30 Several other trophies like Great X were like that too. It was silly. 21:30 <@Tone> I'll be impressed if anyone gets either of those 21:31 <@Tone> I guess it's only ~2.4 ascensions per day 21:31 Yeah it will take some serious butt busting. 21:31 If you threw tariru and luxidream together and gave them the month off, it might happen 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5347 points, T:4809, killed by a mumak 21:34 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37 <@Tone> oh if it's a team effort then I think it can be done 21:40 I think currently every trophy on the page can be achieved by a clan, except stuff like First Ascension 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 999 points, T:1854, killed by a gnome lord 21:43 -!- [Demo]1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:44 -!- [Demo]2 has joined #hardfought 21:53 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:54 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 22:05 Has anyone seen Tariru recently 22:05 Specifically is he going to be playing in TNNT 22:07 <@rikersan> he's never been very talkative 22:07 <@rikersan> that I've seen at least 22:11 > The Art of the Deal 22:11 > Bankrupt a shopkeeper 22:11 Achievment names on point 22:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 22:18 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 22:30 ;) 22:31 many irc discussions took place figuring out names for all the achievements 23:10 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 23:13 hey bobbydurrett 23:14 spell of building yeah? 23:14 Hello. I was trying to learn some nethack coding. 23:15 i've been wishing to see something like that... for years 23:15 I feel like there is some context I'm missing here 23:15 It is kind of fun. You can build new walls. 23:15 when a dwarf goes on a digging rampage in mine town and wrecks your co-aligned temple. irks me ;) 23:15 aosdict check this out - https://bilious.alt.org/?508 23:17 I did a scroll, spell, and wand of building. Can build walls, doors, and I think a grate. 23:17 is it possible to box yourself in with no means of escape 23:18 yes 23:18 master kaen defense 23:18 hah 23:20 can it create undiggable walls if you happen to be in a region of the map where all the squares including the floor were marked nondiggable? 23:20 I think I made it where you couldn't build on an undiggable square. 23:21 I was trying to avoid causing problems. 23:21 i can hear the gears turning in aosdicts head 23:21 add it to xnethack :) 23:22 also having a hard time thinking of where wall-building magic would be more useful than just fixing irritating dwarf caused problems 23:22 I wasn't sure if it really buys you anything you couldn't get with scrolls of earth, digging, etc. But it was fun. 23:22 what if i want to build my own castle in the big room 23:23 minecraft for nethack 23:23 I guess a wall would block things that a boulder wouldn't. 23:23 I was messing with the castle door and sealing it with walls. 23:25 I need something like Prey's GLOO cannon 23:25 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BX3DzZdJ/image.png 23:25 * https://blueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/card/image/383829/2e1aa1a5-35e4-45a5-840f-0aebb78a1b0d.gif 23:40 <@Luxidream> if you wanted to lock yourself in a room and be perfectly safe, you no longer need to find a closet 23:41 <@Luxidream> you can seal off a corridor behind you if you see ants coming 23:44 I had a YANI earlier about a barricade item 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2332 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3181 23:48 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:53 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving]