00:12 this probably serves me right... my level 5 healer fell down a shaft from lvl3 (i think) all the way to 7... and landed right in a huge health food shop. 00:17 -!- uruwi has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:23 :( two 45-minute-old healers killed by different dwarves with wands in a row 00:24 -!- uruwi has joined #hardfought 00:24 -!- tenbeers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 00:39 oh great orcus just gated in demogorgon 00:40 <@Tone> :neutral_face: / 00:41 this is where that sack named TIP IN CASE OF EMERGENCY gets to prove its worth... 00:41 <@Tone> well that didn't work 😄 00:44 phew 00:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:06 -!- lel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:08 -!- wagaf8 has joined #hardfought 01:08 -!- wagaf8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 01:08 -!- lel has joined #hardfought 01:26 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:28 -!- jxf15 has joined #hardfought 01:28 -!- jxf15 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:08 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 02:14 Having one of those "wait, why would this *ever* work" moments. 02:16 The bubble struct has a uchar *bm; /* pointer to the bubble bit mask */ field 02:16 But, that's a pointer. 02:17 The save/restore code seems to read those pointers into and out of memory unchanged. 02:18 But the thing that the pointer was pointing to should end up in a different place every time. 02:18 So why would it *ever* work to do that :? 02:33 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 02:33 <@Demo> so when they load they are stale? 02:34 Sure looks like it. Also, I was wrong earlier, about what line it makes it to. 02:34 It *is* able to reference the bubble that it just loaded, so the save is fine. 02:35 But it fails when it tries to use the bit mask. 02:35 Vanilla 3.6.x is quite different in the waterlevel code. 02:36 In particular, it copies the bubble bitmasks into the bubble structs instead of using pointers. 02:37 -!- tenbeers has joined #hardfought 02:37 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 02:38 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 02:51 -!- rje26 has joined #hardfought 02:52 <@Demo> so that's why it doesn't crash in gdb? 02:52 -!- rindolf1 has joined #hardfought 02:53 -!- rindolf1 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:53 <@Demo> even though the bm pointers are stale they still are consistent? 02:55 -!- rje26 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:56 -!- gth740k has joined #hardfought 02:56 -!- gth740k has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:59 Guessing so... 03:07 I've completed the merge.... lets see if this fixes the problem.... 03:15 oh my. I'm playing a tourist, which I rarely do, and I found Archaeologist bones. So I'm sort of double sketchy 03:15 ... tip-toeing around 03:17 -!- Erisian14 has joined #hardfought 03:18 <@Demo> are you storing the bitmask in the struct now like before instead of just a pointer to it? 03:20 -!- Erisian14 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22 @Demo fixed it. Also, it's not "like before", my waterlevel code was vanilla 3.4.3 :P 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4023 03:24 This invalidates old waterlevel saves, of course, since it changes the size of the save file. 03:24 Only water level saves would be affected, though 04:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:41 -!- zamnedix8 has joined #hardfought 04:41 -!- zamnedix8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:49 -!- Olipro0 has joined #hardfought 04:56 -!- Olipro0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "the blessed fixed greased thoroughly rusty +2 silver dragon scale mail named Zig", on T:12227 05:08 ahhhh 05:08 !tea 05:08 * Beholder_ tosses tenbeers a cup of polka-dot tea, decanted by Izchak at 172 degrees Fahrenheit. 05:08 ty Izzy 05:08 -!- apopovych18 has joined #hardfought 05:08 -!- apopovych18 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:09 !tea tenbeers 05:09 * Beholder_ tosses tenbeers a tall glass of darjeeling tea, replicated by Arsinoe at 49 degrees Fahrenheit. 05:10 many thanks 05:12 -!- Gregor23 has joined #hardfought 05:18 -!- Gregor23 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:12763 05:21 dammint 05:21 that was the shortest-lived SDSM evar 05:21 -!- bwellsnc has joined #hardfought 05:21 -!- bwellsnc has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:26 at least I got to keep the scales after the poly trap effect wore off. 05:34 -!- survove has joined #hardfought 05:35 -!- survove has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40 tenbeers, did your silver dsm become silver scales? 05:41 and now you need to enchant them back? 05:41 yep, whew. I'll eventually get a scroll and fix that 05:41 in due time 05:41 I don't have a lot ID'd yet at this point. 05:41 fortunately it's still fairly reflective 05:42 why is it thoroughly rusty and named zig? 05:43 !beer tenbeers 05:43 bug_sniper: It's your shout! 05:43 why not?! 05:44 because if someone reads a scroll of antimatter, it will disintegrate more likely 05:44 although that's just slex 05:44 ha! 06:04 -!- oleavr23 has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- oleavr23 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:07 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 06:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:23 hey, i am trying to sync my rcfile from the US server to the european one, but dgl doesn't seem to be able to fetch the file 06:24 it is hanging at the 'Connecting...' screen 06:24 -!- uniusz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:24 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:25 here is the output https://hastebin.com/raw/nujoboluki 06:25 (after trying to sync my 3.6.2 rcfile) 06:26 or during, rather 06:30 <@Winsalot> Hey everyone. Do you think it's hopeless to play spoiler-free binder on dnethack? I dont know anyhting about this role or variant, but I have ascended a couple of other variants. 06:31 with a name like Winsalot? How can it fail? 06:33 <@shadowsapex> but you won't know anything about what binder spirits do 06:33 <@shadowsapex> and it's not intuitive at all or anything either 06:34 <@shadowsapex> in my view it's ridiculously complicated 06:40 omg first throne sit wish in a lonnnnng time. years. 06:41 <@Winsalot> Ridiculously complicated sounds like fun 06:42 <@Winsalot> But how into my game can I expect to bind my first spirit? 06:42 <@Winsalot> How soon I mean 06:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "the blessed fixed +3 Magicbane", on T:16844 06:46 <@shadowsapex> i've never played binder 06:46 <@shadowsapex> but I have read the spoilers and oh my god I don't want to 06:48 <@Winsalot> Tbh binder is the reason I want to play dnethack 06:51 <@shadowsapex> you should probably read the spoilers 06:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:57 !tea Raisse 06:57 * Beholder_ throws Raisse a mug of espresso, distilled by the late Pinobot at 4 degrees Celsius. 07:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:07 espresso, distilled by the late Pinobot at 4 degrees Celsius. 07:07 oops 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18646 07:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:13 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 07:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:18948 07:27 -!- squidgy13 has joined #hardfought 07:27 -!- squidgy13 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:31 aww Stenno 07:31 life is hard 07:31 happens to the best of 'em 07:31 ikr 07:32 currently the first time I've ever had Magicbane & Vorpal Blade on the same run, not to mention on a Tourist which I rarely play. I will surely die spectacularly 07:33 but until then... massive vorpalition 07:33 did you get vorpal through sacrificing? 07:33 because tourists are restricted in long sword 07:33 yes. 07:34 ok 07:34 went just a bit overboard after getting my luckstone 07:34 forgot to pay attention to my 4-leaf clovers 07:34 so far so fun, though... 07:38 nice 07:39 lots of hard times in the dungeons past two weeks so yesterday's fairly decent knight run (YASD but still fun) and this one are great. I never usually play these roles either. Finally learning. 07:40 yargh. 07:40 trying out some stupid things so it's likely to fail :P 07:42 :) 07:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:21328 07:59 :o 08:01 :) 08:04 oh wow. That was the worst I've ever drawn on my insurance policy in some time... 08:05 I walked into a treasure zoo. there was a chest. I unlocked it. That triggered a chest trap. 08:05 The trap was a paralysis trap. I sat there helpless as a room full of killer bees and other things woke up and started wrecking me. 08:06 I finally got control back with about 20 HP left, but by then two woodland elves had blocked the exit. 08:06 I decided to charge the elves and use my camera on the near one. The bees then killed me, but my amulet resurrected me. 08:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:07 Finally I made one clear square and had just enough time to burn E with a wand of lightning. 08:07 from there it was nip and tuck, and with great care I made it off that level to recouperate. 08:11 tenbeers, yes, chest traps are dangerous 08:11 Oh, i see what it was... there was a beehive behind a treasure room. no wonder mordor orcs + kbees 08:12 it's kind of annoying, because it means that for optimal survivability early boxes should be #untrap-searched several times, and ignored if trapped 08:18 -!- Guest6858 has joined #hardfought 08:21 -!- Guest6858 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:29 yeah. 08:30 tenbeers: If you set the height of the message window in NH4, that takes priority over the hints window, which will only appear if there's enough space for it. 08:30 super! thanks! 08:30 But no, there isn't an option to outright turn the hints window off. That's Fourk-specific. 08:34 <@Winsalot> What is this tnnt variant that someone is playing on eu? 08:34 <@Winsalot> !who 08:34 @Winsalot: [hdf-us] elron [slshm] docholi [nh362] tenbeers [nh362] arnibald [un] | [hdf-eu] stenno2 [nh362] Graznop [nh362] | [hdf-au] attie [nh362] 08:34 whoa. what is it in 3.6.2 when you zap an unknown wand at a series of monsters and they "glow iridescently"? that phrase had no hits in a wiki search. 08:35 oh. found it https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.6.0/src/zap.c 08:36 but it would be the corpses, not the monsters, that are glowing, right? 08:37 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/495937222823116831/IMG_20180930_153531304.jpg 08:37 <@Winsalot> What is this tnnt variant? 08:38 the november nethack tournament 08:38 to replace devnull 08:38 <@Winsalot> Ok 08:39 oh yes, aos -- "the giant beetle corpse glows iridescently"... the leocrotta corpse... the xan corpse... the hill orc corpse... 08:39 true. good catch 08:41 @Winsalot, it's not really a variant in the usual sense, because the code modifications are all tournament play stuff 08:42 go attie! 09:01 I hope stenno2 didn't eat Medusa's brain. 09:02 I'm trying to figure out if that would actually stone you 09:02 shouldn't it? 09:02 but I can't find the relevant line of source 09:02 let's find out! to the wizard mode! 09:02 it should stone you just like jelly roll! 09:02 Apparently, it does *not* stone you. 09:03 Wait, I'm delayed stoning somehow. 09:04 OMG!!! 09:04 second throne-sit wish in one run! And I never get these! 09:04 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:04 OK, seems like eating her brain causes delayed stoning. 09:04 I may yet get somewhere on a tourist... 09:04 That's weird. 09:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "the blessed greased fixed cloak of protection named Wamsutta", on T:23655 09:11 dayum 09:11 awww 09:12 * aosdict tries to come up with a xorn pun 09:12 dear Beholder, espresso != tea. 09:12 I'm xorning your character's death? 09:12 also I was on a bike so unable to drink any beverage at all 09:13 (it's magnificent early-autumn weather so I wanted to be out in it) 09:13 irc on a bike? 09:13 nope 09:13 reading backscroll 09:13 john xorn 09:16 I read that as "join xorn" and will now have to make that into a new slex monster :D 09:16 also add John Xorn, a unique xorn 09:17 heh, team X in general could stand some additions, just like team zruty and team killer coins ;) 09:17 xorn is similar enough to borg that "Join Xorn. You will be assimilated." sounds correct 09:18 haha 09:18 there is a "borg" in slex, maybe the join xorn will copy its exact stats and then also get wallwalking and metallivorous and be an X :D 09:19 :D :D :D 09:21 -!- vBm5 has joined #hardfought 09:21 -!- vBm5 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:24 <@Winsalot> Amy: do gold weapons have any special effects in slex? 09:25 @Winsalot: not yet, but they will in the next version; sadly I don't have my design document here so I can't check what the effect is 09:25 -!- tacco| has quit [] 09:25 ah I think I remember: they will be resistant to the curse items effect 09:29 LarienTelrunya: Wouldn't they be *susceptible* to the curse items effect? 09:29 why? 09:30 -!- demonspork16 has joined #hardfought 09:30 Cursed gold (usually cursed treasure which is mostly gold) is a common element of stories. 09:30 ah, like weregild ;) 09:30 ^ that was a joke 09:31 well, but I want gold items to be useful in the game, and overcome the "silver > everything else" effect of vanilla 09:32 xnethack ideas for making gold useful include: making it deal bonus damage as a blunt weapon (implemented), and giving it some property that's associated with the sun. 09:33 -!- demonspork16 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34 trying out nudist 09:34 it's ok with valk 09:34 build is dwarven valk + "oR + MMoM 09:35 turns out dwa valk has 100+ HP at the castle 09:36 most important lesson learned is that nudist also includes mummy wrapping so i have to pick the point when to go perma invis 09:36 otherwise i have to pay 800zm for each shopping trip 09:37 would be nice if there was more toggleable invisibility 09:37 some quest arti has it 09:37 but forgot which 09:37 <@Tone> Arc I think 09:37 great jeebus macfarlane, three hours later I finally found one single scroll of enchant armor to turn my scales back into SDSM! 09:38 Only this time I have a CoP over it so no more poly risk 09:38 time to feel smug and consequently die too soon! 09:38 <@Tone> Cloak of protection doesn't stop polymorph traps 09:38 <@Tone> You need magic resistance 09:38 aw crap I always forget that! 09:38 I do have MR. Magicbane 09:38 <@Tone> Or unchanging 09:39 <@Tone> You're good then 09:39 as long as you're wielding it anyway 09:39 yeah. 09:40 amulet of unchanging should effectively make you clinically immortal, due to your body stops degrading 09:40 aos, that gives me an idea for a new shop type. immortal wax museum 09:41 -!- jryans23 has joined #hardfought 09:45 -!- jryans23 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:48 -!- bladdezz10 has joined #hardfought 09:54 -!- mr_lou24 has joined #hardfought 09:54 -!- mr_lou24 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:54 -!- bladdezz10 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:01 -!- hf_guest_44166 has joined #hardfought 10:10 aangel.. 10:12 I can handle the tiny aangels, but the giant ones? No dice. 10:17 they come first in the phone book. it's all downhill from there. 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1117 points, T:2779, killed by a little dog 10:19 -!- cosban18 has joined #hardfought 10:21 -!- z|bandito8 has joined #hardfought 10:21 -!- z|bandito8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:22 -!- cosban18 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:24 -!- brosef has joined #hardfought 10:24 -!- brosef has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:30 !pom 10:30 LarienTelrunya: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 8 days. 10:40 -!- imacdonn8 has joined #hardfought 10:40 -!- imacdonn8 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41 -!- stevef1 has joined #hardfought 10:41 -!- stevef1 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:46 -!- Guest11907 has joined #hardfought 10:48 -!- clarknelson9 has joined #hardfought 10:48 -!- Guest11907 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55 -!- clarknelson9 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57 -!- hf_guest_44166 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 11:05 -!- mounty19 has joined #hardfought 11:05 -!- mounty19 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 11:11 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] barleywine (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2099 points, T:2907, quit 11:21 -!- uruwi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:27 why the hell are crocodiles silent, they should be able to make some sort of sound... 11:28 aren't there plenty of pop culture references in which someone sits down on a crocodile, or goes swimming in the river among all those tree trunks which are definitely not crocodiles? 11:29 those would imply that crocodiles are good at being stealthy when they want to 11:29 yeah in the donald duck comics you can be sure that if the heroes try to cross an amazonas river, the trunks will always be crocodiles 11:37 aosdict: was it your idea to have a special room with mummies and a high-level lich? because that's what just killed me 11:39 looks like you genocided yourself... 11:40 yeah because the lich killed my polymorphed form, causing me to revert to my genocided natural form 11:40 I only take responsibility for ideas that I thought were good enough to implement 11:40 if you pull an idea off the page and implement it yourself, that's your problem :) 11:41 yeah I was just wondering whether the mummy idea was on your page in the first place, I guess I can grep your YANI page 11:41 I think it is on there, yes. 11:41 yep 11:41 "Mummy traps, a new trap type that generates with a very desirable item: highly enchanted gear, magic markers, items with object properties, etc." 11:42 I made that into a special room with mummies and one lich, who guard highly enchanted, but cursed items, so there can be e.g. a cursed +3 cloak of magic resistance in such a room 11:57 makes sense 12:11 <@rikersan> chris are you here rn 12:12 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG illurien didn't drop the book :( clck bard, but I got the final hit not one of my pets, I'm sure of that. I think it was cuz I didn't deal normal damage, the damage was from magicbane's cancellation resisting. not 100% tho 12:12 Will do, @rikersan! 12:16 @rikersan: She should be *generated* holding the book. Is it possible she lost it somehow? 12:16 Chris_ANG: Message from @rikersan at 2018-09-30 12:12 EDT: illurien didn't drop the book :( clck bard, but I got the final hit not one of my pets, I'm sure of that. I think it was cuz I didn't deal normal damage, the damage was from magicbane's cancellation resisting. not 100% tho 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:29856 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] barleywine (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:19 12:22 -!- MoistyMemes has joined #hardfought 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh343] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2703 points, T:2979, killed by a gnome lord 12:47 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 12:48 -!- tenbeers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:58 -!- MoistyMemes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:59 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 13:05 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 13:25 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:31 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:41 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:48 -!- Polsaker18 has joined #hardfought 13:49 -!- Polsaker18 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 13:51 -!- ilbelkyr_ is now known as ilbelkyr 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] barleywine (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 7574 points, T:4199, killed by a shocking sphere 14:11 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 14:11 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:21 -!- cef14 has joined #hardfought 14:21 -!- cef14 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:20 -!- klaas5 has joined #hardfought 15:21 -!- klaas5 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has joined #hardfought 15:31 I have a djinni asking me for a wish 15:31 I have food poisoning right now, 15:31 So what should I wish for to get rid of the poisoning? 15:40 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:45 Does a potion of curing work? 15:46 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 15:47 potions of curing don't exist 15:47 extra healing or full healing 15:47 or a blessed unicorn horn if you don't have one yet 15:48 They cure food poisoning? 15:48 yes 15:48 ok 15:48 do you have a potion of extra or full healing, a blessed potion of healing, or a potion of holy water? 15:48 Do I apply it? 15:49 or a eucalyptus leaf? 15:49 I don't. 15:49 unicorn horn? yes, apply it 15:49 I just wished for a unicorn horn. 15:49 "Nothing seems to happen." 15:49 try again 15:49 "You feel cured. What a relief!" 15:49 Thank you. I'll remember to use that again. 15:50 usually people get unicorn horns from unicorns, but this was an emergency 15:50 you can prevent food poisoning by not eating old corpses, or tinning them before you eat them 15:51 hi 15:51 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 15:51 hah no !tell msgs 15:51 means things must have been running smoothly 15:54 K2: what's the longest amount of time one can be idle on a hardfought server? 15:55 3600 seconds 15:55 Ok. 15:55 (one hour) 15:55 Yeah. 16:02 -!- cydizen has joined #hardfought 16:02 -!- cydizen has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 16:02 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:10 Can nymphs as a whole be genocided, or do I have to specify which type of nymph? 16:10 e.g. water nymphs 16:10 depends on whether your scroll is uncursed or blessed 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a hexagonal amulet on an altar, on T:4199 16:13 why isn't there a spellbook of detect traps in vanilla? Seems like a legit divination spell. 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1076 points, T:1646, killed by a giant rat 16:13 bouquet: detect unseen does that? 16:14 I had no idea that's what that spell did. 16:15 it does do that 16:16 TIL 16:16 it also detects other things, hence why it's not called detect traps 16:23 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 16:25 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 16:25 -!- rikersan has quit [Client Quit] 16:26 <@rikersan> chris_ang: I looked, eventually gave up tho. I mapped the whole level manually, quaffed detect object a couple times, and even checked my pet's inventories 16:26 <@rikersan> not sure what happened 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 403 points, T:1036, killed by a giant bat 16:26 After reading the BUC article in the nethack wiki, it doesn't tell how to bless an item... 16:26 <@rikersan> now there is a blank spbk on the ground. could it be that the water traps blanked the book? not suppsoed to happen, and it doesn't happen in player invnetories iirc, but monster? 16:26 <@rikersan> also, should grue be tameable >.> 16:27 How can I bless a scroll of genocide? 16:27 <@rikersan> dip it in a blessed potion of water 16:27 dip it in a potion of holy water 16:27 <@rikersan> has to be blessed 16:27 Ok. 16:27 <@rikersan> yea, blessed potions of water appear as "a potion of holy water" 16:28 <@rikersan> chris: also suggestion, bards get a +5 lvl to pet minions gained from sacrificing 16:28 <@rikersan> kinda useless to get a monadic deva, doesn't really compare to my tulani or my surya or even grue 16:29 Oh, I was like, yeah, grue should be tameable, what happened? 16:29 You mean *balance wise* XD 16:29 <@rikersan> yeaaa lol 16:29 <@rikersan> not as OP as medusa 16:29 <@rikersan> but he's still pretty good 16:30 <@rikersan> I thought he could walk through walls? was that changed or am I just dumb 16:30 I don't think he could ever walk through walls. 16:30 <@rikersan> hm ok 16:30 <@rikersan> can he swim? 16:32 No. He's amorphous for some reason though, so he can squeeze under doors I think? 16:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:33 <@rikersan> hm ok 16:33 <@rikersan> fits with grue I guess 16:33 <@rikersan> he should be able to swim 16:33 <@rikersan> he has water after all 16:34 ...He does? 16:37 -!- Zathrus23 has joined #hardfought 16:37 -!- Zathrus23 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 16:41 <@rikersan> yea his level has a ton of water 16:43 -!- Eramdam28 has joined #hardfought 16:43 -!- Eramdam28 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 16:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 16:46 NewbProgrammer10: The BUC page does say, under "Curse removal or blessing", that you can dip in holy water. 16:51 Oh, right. 16:54 Stay away from Venusaurs, Winsalot. 16:59 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:13 <@rikersan> chris: is grue's body plan "blob"? 17:13 <@rikersan> you said he was amourphous 17:13 <@rikersan> can I get anything onto him? or should I give up on giving him like an MC cloak 17:13 there is an actual grue? 17:14 <@rikersan> yes 17:14 <@rikersan> he's a unique monster that replaces medusa (and her level) in 50% of games 17:14 <@rikersan> 2d10 pois bite (str), 2d6 phys bite, 4d8 shadow touch, 4d8 digest engulf, 1d8 passive shadow 17:14 <@rikersan> pretty lethal, but he does run away if you light up the area 17:16 raisse: part of a recent dnh initiative to make Medusa-equivalent monsters that, like Medusa, are potentially very dangerous but can be foiled with certain tactics 17:17 <@rikersan> huh, dragon scales fit him, but not anything else 17:18 dnh YANI: put a ranger corpse named Narcissus (and a flower if possible) next to some water on Echo's level 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] docholi (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4194 points, T:6884, killed by a soldier ant 17:23 -!- PricklyPear18 has joined #hardfought 17:24 That's pretty wimpy, compared to grues in lore. 17:24 In the source material, they can instakill you from off-screen. 17:25 (The fleeing from light is canonical, though.) 17:25 -!- dogsec20 has joined #hardfought 17:25 <@shadowsapex> I guess nethackers are made of tougher stuff 17:25 -!- dogsec20 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 17:27 I thought the dnh grue *did* instakill you if you were in the darkness and it was alive on the same level. 17:28 @rikersan are those its stats overall, or just while in the light? 17:29 -!- PricklyPear18 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:38 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 209 points, T:378, killed by a jackal 17:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8245 17:38 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 7 points, T:48, burned by molten lava 17:39 \o/ 17:39 !setmintc 200 17:39 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for k2 set to 200 17:39 on T:48??\ 17:39 sporkhack 17:39 let me rephrase 17:39 why does sporkhack have lava you can access on T:48?? 17:39 because... sporkhack 17:40 <[Demo]> where? 17:45 why *doesn't* xnh have lava on dlvl1? Hmmm? 17:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 17:46 <@Luxidream> un has random lava in one of its first sokoban levels 17:46 <@Luxidream> because fuck you 17:46 <@Luxidream> although I think that's the reasoning behind a lot of things in un 17:59 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 18:07 -!- bb1029 has joined #hardfought 18:10 -!- bb1029 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:13 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:36 -!- MisteryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 18:42 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 18:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:11235 18:45 Thanks, Thoth! 19:20 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 19:20 -!- Luxidream has quit [Client Quit] 19:24 -!- lbt10 has joined #hardfought 19:24 -!- lbt10 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:34 !tell AntiGulp Do you know you can git add -p [file] if you've done a bunch of changes to one file and want to put its separate hunks in separate commits? I saw your comment about how it should have been split into several commits. 19:34 Will do, aosdict! 19:34 -!- funnyguy28 has joined #hardfought 19:34 -!- funnyguy28 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:35 -!- kumavis24 has joined #hardfought 19:35 !tell AntiGulp You should work in a "Hark! the Herald Archons sing" reference somewhere :D 19:35 Will do, aosdict! 19:39 -!- kumavis24 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12234 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12239 19:47 -!- linville has joined #hardfought 19:47 -!- linville has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:50 -!- tenbeers has joined #hardfought 20:00 Ahh, beautiful Ankh-Morpork. Wait... this isn't how I rememberd it! 20:04 "Vorpal Blade slices through tenbeers's ghost's neck." now that's the kind of horror I came for. And brought extra toast. 20:11 I don't think the words "Ankh-Morpork" and "beautiful" belong in the same sentence 20:11 sonically no they don't! 20:11 I need that bumper sticker. "I Ankh for Morpork" 20:12 I have only just begun to Tourist after years of fear. 20:12 but all of the patience from too much wizarding helps. 20:13 -!- tacco| has quit [] 20:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:45 is there a way to remove a boulder from the square you're standing on? (if you don't know Stone To Flesh, though) 20:46 I just came down the stairs to the Thieves Guild Hall and the initial fight went just fine, but one of the soldiers read a scroll of earth and now I am still standing on the upstair, but I'm sharing that spot with a boulder. I do have wands of striking (no pickaxe at the moment, for weight) so it's fine if I have to step off, but it would be cleaner if I could remove a boulder in situ. 20:48 nvm, I just went ahead with the wand of striking, but it would still be good to find out. 20:48 so nice when the residents make the boulder fort for you... 20:51 why do you need to move it? is it in a corner? 20:51 it's really not important. I was just wanting to use the occasion as a motivation to learn if that's possible 20:52 also, "thieves' guild hall", hah 20:52 doesn't look like a guild hall to me 20:52 I'm guessing on levels where you can dig at least enough to create a pit, you might be able to get your boulder under your feet to drop down. 20:52 well hey, they called it that, not me :) 20:54 wiztested, and nope, if you try to dig while on the same space as a boulder, "There isn't enough room to dig in here." 20:54 innntweeging 20:54 the EPI of that is that you get buried under the boulder... 20:54 inntewesting. thank you! 20:54 oh that would be rich. 20:54 needs to happen somewhere. 20:55 thank you for the check. 20:59 blargh. it's turn 33,333 and I still have no sleep resist. perhaps time to revgeno orange dragons. 21:05 aw crap. I should know this -- does holy water stop working when you lose its ID via mind flayers' item ID amnesia? 21:05 I dipped a scroll of identify (known) into a blessed potion "called" water, which had formerly been positively IDd as holy water but since that ID I lost a few items' knowledge to a flayer. 21:06 instead of blessing the scroll I got no effect (the output sai "Interesting..."). 21:06 or wait. that's it, the scroll is probably blessed already and just not BUC'd. duh. 21:06 sigh 21:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16181 21:40 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 18583 points, T:1236, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 21:49 -!- NeoGeo6424 has joined #hardfought 21:54 -!- NeoGeo6424 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00 -!- dmaphy10 has joined #hardfought 22:03 -!- A|TARIS25 has joined #hardfought 22:04 -!- dmaphy10 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06 -!- A|TARIS25 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 22:41 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #hardfought 22:41 Oh, that's why you're all quiet 22:41 ? 22:41 tenbeers: I'd dropped the channel and not noticed :-) 22:41 ah! 22:42 welcome back :) 22:42 I've been in Portsmouth bashing myself on the head, and now I'm awake with a sore head :-) 22:47 alrighty then 22:47 I think you've reached a better place 22:47 !booze Pinkbeast 22:47 * Beholder_ hands Pinkbeast a shot of grappa, brewed by Rodney at 34 Kelvin. 22:48 * Pinkbeast has a quantity of rum anyway but thanks, leaving aside the intensely hazardous nature of a drink at 34K 22:49 & as I think I said elsewhere, if you're going to bash yourself on the head, using something 250 years old that was at Trafalgar is not so bad. :-) 22:51 were you trying to return from a polymorph? 22:51 I reckon if I get a good polymorph like marilith I'm staying with it 23:00 IRL for sure 23:01 In NetHack, even, the weapon-juggling effect would be OP if it mattered at that stage. 23:19 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 33252 points, T:6226, killed by a plains centaur, while frozen by potion vapours 23:29 -!- enen0 has joined #hardfought 23:29 -!- enen0 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 23:33 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 23:34 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has joined #hardfought 23:35 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 23:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:40 -!- Acn0w has joined #hardfought 23:40 -!- Acn0w has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 23:43 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 23:46 -!- ProzacElf_ has left #hardfought 23:46 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 23:47 Sooo I was about to revgeno orange dragons because it's late in my 362 tourist game and I still don't have sleep resistance... then I realized they might put me to sleep (en route to death). 23:47 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 23:47 Reminds me of the hilarious stories of eating a footrice corpse to get a new resistance 23:47 -!- jposer13 has joined #hardfought 23:47 I wonder if it's worth rev-genoing Elvenkings (60% chanceI think of giving the intrinsic upon corpse consumption) or what. I have been eating every elf I find for hours and hours, and still no sleep resistance. 23:48 oh dear. yeah. I have rejected many a footrice TIN on this time around. for some reason they keep happening 23:48 tenbeers: Sleep resistance is not vital. 23:48 well, I've almost been killed while asleep several times now 23:48 Years ago I lost a game to eating a tin while Hallu. What are the odds it's footrice? 23:48 i feel like it's my remaining achilles heel. You think no big deal? 23:49 ha. right? 23:49 small odds but things have a way of happening just wrong! 23:49 tenbeers: The answer to that is to develop a giant AC and a squillion HP, which the game makes easy. 23:49 or just get sleep resistant! like I usually am! 23:49 You don't take any more damage or are easier to hit when asleep. 23:50 And the combat awakens you. So it's more like missing a turn than a threat. 23:50