00:23 -!- tenbeers has joined #hardfought 00:23 Arrr it be gametime 00:24 !hello 00:24 Hello tenbeers, Welcome to #hardfought 00:24 :D 00:33 oh that's rich. Found my own ghost orctown -- with all my former possessions sitting right on top of the already (thanks be to my ghost) converted altar. 00:33 funny how you have to pick them back up and drop them again on the altar, they're not pre-BUCd. 00:42 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3030 01:02 a fortune cookie is non-vegan, sure, but is it non-vegetarian? 01:02 my monk didn't feel guilty -- 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3407 01:06 fortune cookies are vegetarian, in nethack anyway 01:07 eggs but no meat 01:07 that's what I thought. I was surprised Beholder gave me that notification 01:08 monks only take an alignment hit for eating non-vegetarian stuff 01:08 I know. I'm just curious why the bot announced that I "consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time". 01:08 maybe it's trained on other non-vanilla stuff 01:08 oh, well, it's a conduct thing I guess 01:09 yeah, some way 01:09 I mean, I know already that those announcements are only about conduct, useful for personal attempts or tournaments. 01:09 Beholder livelogs all conduct violations after a set number of turns 01:09 I was only curious what conduct it thinks I'm violating. 01:09 it seems to think I violated vegetarianism... but with a fortune cookie. so I don't get it. 01:11 you violated veganism, I figure 01:11 that's cool that we have vegan vs vegetarian granularity. 01:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:12 it does need better voicing though -- shouldn't describe a fortune cookie as animal products. 01:12 Otherwise it'd say "tasted meat for the first time" 01:12 ah okay. 01:12 Even if it's not actually meat 01:12 I guess I'm mollified :] 01:12 if you have the food appraisal intrinsic you're supposed to get warnings if eating non-vegan food would break the conduct as a monk, but it's buggy or at least it used to be 01:12 People for the Egregious Treatment of Monsters 01:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v irina|lo1] by ChanServ 01:13 -!- irina|lo1 is now known as irina|log 01:15 I don't think monks should eat vegan, just vegetarian 01:15 you don't get an alignment hit from a fortune cookie 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:4158 01:17 just felt like some lizard 01:23 !booze tenbeers 01:23 * Beholder delivers tenbeers a tumbler of Jamaican rum, replicated by Rodney at 102 degrees Fahrenheit. 01:23 :) 01:23 mmm 01:23 !rum bug_sniper 01:23 * Beholder passes bug_sniper a tumbler of spiced rum, distilled by FCCBot at 132 Kelvin. 01:24 lizard and rum, what kind of monk are you? 01:24 after 89 verses of the beer on the wall song, we get to tenbeers 01:24 so it goes! 01:24 lol raisse! I'm undercover! 01:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:52 !tea 01:52 * Beholder passes raisse a cup of green tea, fermented by FCCBot at 485 Kelvin. 01:53 I don't expect it to ferment at that temperature! evaporate, more likely! 01:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:58 * tenbeers watches the tea sublimate into plasma 02:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:8855 02:20 wheee 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10142 02:41 -!- mode/Beholder [+RZi] by Beholder 02:41 -!- asimov.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ Slash'EM 0.0.8E0F2 is now available for play! ¤ quiet mode is enabled, ask an OP if you need to be voiced 02:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 02:43 !who 02:43 K2: [hdf-us] Bard [slshm] tenbeers [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 02:58 -!- tenbeers has joined #hardfought 02:59 Crikey, the RNGsus got me! Less than two seconds after K2 wrote "netsplit" the host machine for the linux VM that I do my nethacking on read a scroll of bluescreen 02:59 lovely timing. 03:02 ugh 03:02 my game is okay though! 03:04 !who 03:04 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Bard [slshm] tenbeers [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 03:11 gnite all 03:11 gnite K2! 03:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:10910 03:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 52234 points, T:12268, killed by a black naga 03:36 'nite ;) 03:41 -!- tenbeers has quit [Quit: vanishes in a boat of car] 03:47 -!- hjf has joined #hardfought 03:48 -!- hjf has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:34 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:46 -!- koltrast28 has joined #hardfought 04:46 -!- koltrast28 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:34 -!- schristou7 has joined #hardfought 05:34 -!- schristou7 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:08 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:29 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:31 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Tringanoe on T:22293 06:33 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:42 -!- uruwi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed master key of thievery", on T:2019 07:55 -!- rharper0 has joined #hardfought 07:55 -!- rharper0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59 LarienTelrunya: I saw the message, don't worry. 07:59 :) 07:59 So you did what, stick the exercise in a !rn2(50) statement? 08:00 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:00 EPI: walking from tile to tile has a percentage chance of abusing constitution. 08:03 aosdict: yes, every time you'd get strength exercise from pushing a boulder, you only have a 1 in 50 chance of actually getting it in slex 08:03 slex is probably not meant for those who hate the rn2 and rnz functions :P 08:04 (because many things are controlled by those) 08:06 if (!rn2(rnz(rne(2)*rne(3)*rne(4)))) { pline("There is an eerie feeling about this place."); } 08:20 <@Demo> no 08:23 aosdict: [the advent calendar level] is one of the new 3.6.0 big rooms, and there are no advent calendar prizes 08:23 aosdict: wait, what, where? 08:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 08:23 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 08:24 bhaak: I think it's not actually the advent calendar level, just one that looks like it because it has a ton of niches? 08:25 bhaak: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Big_Room#Big_Room_.233 08:25 ah, that one 08:26 yeah, that predates the advent calendar level by decades 08:26 (just a rough estimate) 08:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6783 08:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:31 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 08:33 oh hah I thought jonadab wrote the advent calendar patch, but you did 08:37 I'm a sucker for christmas 08:37 <@Demo> yey christmas 08:46 there should also be doors that open on the eight nights of hanukkah 08:46 among other things, a potion of oil behind every door? 08:48 the problem is, hanukkah is not always completely within the date range of the first 24 days of december 08:49 what does it matter, just keep the portal open while it's still going 08:51 IIRC the portal never closes. but it only appear during the right date range 08:56 the easiest approach would be to put some candles in the overlapping chambers and a potion of oil in the 8th. or even around, collecting a few candles and a potion of oil is not unbalancing 09:18 YANI: add a field to dgl registration for birthday. candelabrum then requires X number of candles *on your birthday*, X being equal to your age in years 09:24 aosdict: Calculating Jewish-calendar dates is a royal pain, and there are three distinct formulae. 09:24 Why do you think the date of Easter is such a mess? 09:25 Prior to A.D. 70, the decision about which years had a Second Adar was made on a case-by-case basis by the Jewish leadership. 09:25 During the diaspora, they did not all retain contact with each other, so the calendar diverged. 09:26 -!- tacco| has quit [] 09:26 there should be a Festivus patch 09:26 So now there are three basic formulae that have widespread acceptance: the Eastern one, the Western one, and the one the modern state of Israel uses. 09:26 feats of strength! 09:26 K2: not wintereenmas? 09:26 Festivus is a real thing 09:27 ... to roughly the same extent that Kwanzaa is. 09:27 It was made up by people who had no personal interest in celebrating it, for purposes unrelated to its ostensible meaning. 09:29 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 09:29 hmm no 09:30 the person who invented it, he and his family started celebrating it 09:30 and its spread thanks to seinfeld show 09:30 It wasn't made up *for* the show, by writers? 09:33 no 09:33 Huh. 09:33 Daniel O'Keefe 09:33 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 09:33 his family started celebrating it in the mid 60's 09:34 I see. 09:34 his son was a writer for the show seinfeld 09:34 Still not sure that makes it a real holiday. Given that it is famous mostly for being celebrated by a fictional character. 09:34 a national or global holiday? no i agree with you there 09:34 but its a holiday nonetheless 09:35 I suppose we can put it in the same category as Talk Like a Pirate Day. 09:35 hell, i could say oct 22nd is hardfought holiday 09:35 i'd be the only one to celebrate it ;) 09:35 (oct 22nd is hdf birthday) 09:36 And patch all the different variants to call slime molds "hardfruit" on that day? 09:36 lol 09:36 candy bar becomes 'hard candy' 09:36 Yes. 09:36 oh man 09:37 <@Tone> Stealing that fruit name for a few games 09:38 I always want to argue with people when they claim that christmas is only a christian holiday 09:39 Well, _advent_ is a Christian holiday, clearly. 09:39 as if winter solstice is only celebrated in christianity 09:39 Whether "Christmas" is mostly about advent or mostly about presents and trees is a matter of some debate. 09:39 A debate that I fear Christains are losing these days. 09:39 *ia 09:40 look at the christmas tree and explain what the traditional christmas tree has to do with jesus or christianity in general 09:40 but advent is christian, yes. 09:40 <@Demo> don't forget candy canes 09:40 or the easter bunny 09:40 bok bok! 09:41 @Demo Most folks are not aware of the candy cane's origin. 09:41 It has become almost entirely secularized these days. 09:42 The tree, of course, was of secular origin in the first place. 09:42 And became associated with Christmas because of Roman Catholic Syncretism. 09:42 <@Demo> I like jesus too 09:43 don't you mean pagan? 09:44 Possibly. 09:44 festivus patch sounds cool 09:45 active just one day a year hah 09:45 portal to festivus on oracle lvl 09:46 -!- m0nky21 has joined #hardfought 09:46 That would make the Oracle level non-bones-eligible. Just saying. 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11283 09:47 K2: Fourk has special fruitnames for some half a dozen holidays. 09:48 See commit cdb61a4af for details. 09:49 neat 09:49 -!- LuminaxAndroid has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- LuminaxAndroid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51 -!- m0nky21 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:53 I would entertain suggestions for additional ones. 09:53 They can be minor holidays, like St. Pat's and Valentine's. 09:53 But please, no Jewish-calendar dates, I don't want to write the code for that. 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:11562 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4829 10:06 K2: official recognition acquired: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/22d69d242495d8a5f2d4a8d6abcfe5c178ea2f41 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5944 points, T:5341, killed by a white unicorn 10:17 <@Tone> Very cool 😄 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6179 10:23 -!- sigtrm20 has joined #hardfought 10:29 -!- sigtrm20 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:7361 10:39 -!- Pavel_ has joined #hardfought 10:41 -!- j has joined #hardfought 10:41 -!- j is now known as Guest24001 10:42 -!- mrjester3 has joined #hardfought 10:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:43 -!- t3xc0d3_ has joined #hardfought 10:46 -!- mrjester3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49 -!- t3xc0d3_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed greased fixed scrolls of charging", on T:8627 10:54 -!- Pavel_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 10:54 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "the blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:8627 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5166 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "the blessed greased fixed +3 mitre of holiness", on T:8660 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots named wishing (0:3) on first level of soko~", on T:8665 11:01 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "the blessed greased fixed +3 silver saber named Grayswandir", on T:8671 11:04 -!- Guest24001 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:07 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:09 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:17656 11:26 Does https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/3f5ef9bdf3e8ecbd833ffb5aef38eb5de780d9ee affect curses' menu-based extended commands? 11:26 -!- uruwi has joined #hardfought 11:29 PavelB: It's probably untested. 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10883 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "the blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:10884 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "the blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:11239 11:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (green slime), on T:15861 11:45 -!- uruwi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:01 All I want int life is an identify scroll 12:03 green slime is an interesting genocide choice 12:05 <@kritixilithos> PavelB: s/scroll/spellbook/ 12:05 They don't exist in xnh 12:06 aosdict: Last time I was in gehennom I had to set fire to myself twice, ruining my inventory. The second time I nearly died to my /oFire running out, I only lived because I had a spare ?oCharging 12:06 Sliming sucks 12:06 If the ?oGenno was blessed, I probably would have wiped out all Liches, but since it wasn't, green slimes were the best single monster I could think of. 12:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 12:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:18328 12:12 And now I have to decide wether to use Excal or Mjollnir again 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13345 12:13 -!- alphageek has joined #hardfought 12:15 -!- alphageek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 136141 points, T:18480, petrified by a cockatrice 12:15 Well that was dumb 12:17 YANI: Engraving/ward that is _bad_, that causes bad things to happen on or around it, and that the player might actually want to erase deliberately. 12:19 hat mons can engrave? 12:19 *That 12:19 Maybe. 12:20 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 12:24 I wouldn't know what to do with a blessed scroll of identify in real life 12:25 I've already identified all my possessions, yes. 12:25 Maybe sell it to some IRL archeologists. 12:26 Unless it would only come up with "an uncursed historic clay shard", "an uncursed historic bone fragment", etc, without giving details of what it was. 12:27 in nethack, you need to have to the object you want to identify? 12:27 *in nethack, you need to have the object you want to identify in your possession 12:28 well an archeologist could just go around a museum and carry a bunch of artifacts in their arms while reading it 12:28 if it would work also at a slight distance, I would use it on the shroud of turin or something like that :) 12:29 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:21542 12:30 -!- jayray22 has joined #hardfought 12:35 -!- jayray22 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a little dog, on T:10655 12:43 -!- heirecka26 has joined #hardfought 12:44 -!- heirecka26 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:32161 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:32162 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11007 12:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:32164 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 145 points, T:883, killed by an arch-lich 12:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed orb of fate", on T:32185 12:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:32186 13:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:32186 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:27103 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 287 points, T:1177, killed by a hobbit 13:03 I guess a neutral archaeologist can't wish for grayswandir :( 13:04 maybe too many artifacts exist in your game? if 2 or more exist, there's a chance for an artifact wish to fail 13:04 LarienTelrunya: I recently changed that 13:04 ah 13:05 but the # of artifact wishes still matters, right? 13:05 yes 13:05 you should get your first artifact guaranteed (which for bouquet was orb of fate) 13:05 then only 50% chance of second 13:05 whoa that sounds rather harsh 13:05 if bouquet tries again, 1/3 chance 13:06 even if the second wish already failed??? 13:06 That part was vanilla behavior; previous failed wishes still count against you. 13:06 really?! I thought it counts the # of artifacts generated, and you can still try to wish for the same artifact again so it cannot be marked as generated, unless 3.6.x changed that 13:07 /* and make them pay; charge them for the wish anyway! */ 13:07 yeah I know about that comment, but I just thought it means "charge them for the wish" as in "the charge counter on your wand of wishing decreases even though you didn't get anything" 13:09 Anyway, this is balanced out by you always get one guaranteed artifact wish, which can't be ruined by gifts or random artifacts or premature bones. 13:11 I don't like artiwishing in general, but would get riots if I removed it outright, so copying fiqhack's change which means generally less of them was the way to go. 13:13 <@Tone> One fully guaranteed artifact wish seems like a reasonable compromise 13:13 <@Tone> In vanilla you only get two anyways, and that's only if no others have been generated 13:14 @Tone It also means you don't have to agonize over spending a random early wish on an artifact, which in vanilla is usually a suboptimal choice 13:14 but is tempting anyway because the number of artis is low 13:15 Hmm, I suppose the one guaranteed wish could still be ruined by wishing for an artifact that does exist but that you just don't know about. 13:15 <@Tone> It also allows you to sacrifice for a decent weapon gift 13:16 <@Tone> (even if you didn't like your first one) 13:16 <@Tone> and still get a quest arti at the castle or whatever 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:15258 13:22 -!- Vohveli29 has joined #hardfought 13:23 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 13:24 -!- uruwi has joined #hardfought 13:26 -!- Ash3 has joined #hardfought 13:27 -!- Vohveli29 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:29 -!- Ash3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh362] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 39680 points, T:17379, killed by an elf-lord 13:35 in slex the fix for the artiwish problem is that if you do get a failure due to too many artifacts existing, you just get a random artifact instead (limited to ones that can generate randomly, so no quest artifacts), which may or may not be useful ;) 13:36 -!- axel14 has joined #hardfought 13:36 so you could wish for coaligned Grayswandir, get Stormbringer instead and die to its blast? 13:37 yeah I guess that could happen, although slex also scales the blast damage to your level so you'll probably not die unless your HP are far below the average for your XL 13:38 i.e. at XL1 the maximum blast damage is 8, at XL2 it's 16 etc. and it maxes out at XL10 where it's 80 13:38 and that's only for self-willed ones, other artifacts do a max of 48 at XL10 13:41 Or, if you're not at full HP. 13:42 well I've died to artifact blasts more often in vanilla than I did in slex... 13:42 once I even died on my first turn because I had autopickup on and a crossaligned artifact spawned on the tile next to me! 13:43 why were you autopickingup weapons anyway 13:43 it was a pristine install of vanilla and I hadn't edited the rcfile yet at that point 13:45 -!- axel14 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:47 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 13:50 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 13:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 13:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of ahrimen, the former Fighter, on T:24466 13:51 OK, time to see what this brave new orcish mines world looks like in a real game. 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "the blessed greased fixed +3 T-shirt named sad you can't wish for specific text", on T:20480 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3841 points, T:6052, killed by a jaguar 14:01 -!- bo_ has joined #hardfought 14:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:02 -!- bo_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:28983 14:48 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:49 -!- uruwi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 37 points, T:67, killed by a jackal 15:01 -!- Pavel_ has joined #hardfought 15:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 887 points, T:1851, killed by a pony 15:18 -!- Pavel_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 15:21 * aosdict pulls vanilla, gets fifty dozen merge conflicts 15:21 ugh 15:22 50 dozen 15:22 thats a lot of donuts 15:22 <@Demo> whoa I want that 15:23 so I will be merging the new orc stuff, but at the moment orctown itself is unchanged. 15:23 I will probably move some of its loot out to be received by marauding orcs. 15:24 -!- agent_white has joined #hardfought 15:24 <@Demo> maurice the marauder 15:25 -!- agent_white has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 15:25 one of the merge conflicts is because I and the devteam both added totally different functions in the same place, and it merged the closing } and then, naturally, failed to merge the rest of the functions. 15:33 [hdf-us] [slex] Arsenical (Dol Lol Fem Neu) averted death, on T:1169 15:34 [hdf-us] [slex] Arsenical (Dol Lol Fem Neu), 796 points, T:1172, killed by a monster (joust buzzard) 15:41 -!- SeraphSephiroth1 has joined #hardfought 15:43 hah... got mentioned in dat/history 15:43 wooo boy 15:43 so did Tangles 15:43 i know it's not a big deal, but... HEH 15:44 neat 15:44 -!- SeraphSephiroth1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:44 f - a blessed (by the devteam) rustproof historic K2 15:45 aosdict the arc swings his pick-axe... 15:45 h - a plain spellbook 15:45 it wasn't a statue of K2, it was a historic K2 15:45 i know 15:46 or are you saying you eat spellbooks 15:46 only historic i've ever seen in game was a statue 15:50 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:58 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 16:07 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 16:07 hello o/ 16:07 hey 16:07 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 16:31 !lastgame AmyBSOD 16:31 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-03-28%2009%3A15%3A02%2C%20Erotic%20Thai%20Bitch-Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/dumplog/1537894430.slex.txt 16:32 !players 16:32 uniusz: [hdf-us] k2 [sp] Eleven [nh362] barleywine [nh362] ranlhach66 [un] krm26 [fh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 16:33 I must admit that I got to like this server :) 16:35 but i have one problem... all colors for my equipement work well, another color for blessed wield and unwield etc 16:35 but this not work for uncursed ones 16:35 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 132 points, T:457, killed by a small mimic 16:35 i set white for uncursed and white&bold for uncursed wielded 16:35 but this not get bold when i wield it 16:35 why this not work ? you can see my rc on site 16:36 yeah one sec 16:37 so bold just makes a color brighter 16:37 in nethack 16:37 yes 16:37 but this isnt happend when i wield uncursed weapon 16:37 but i set this in my config file 16:37 i see it 16:37 but this work for armor 16:37 what i write wrong there ? 16:38 i'm looking 16:38 okay thanks 16:39 it looks right... 16:40 you said worn armor it works 16:40 but wielded weapons, it doesnt 16:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: good night] 16:41 <@Tone> Can you provide a screenshot of your game? 16:41 yes 16:42 worn uncursed armor get bold but uncursed weapons doesnt 16:42 you can see it if you start watch my play on eu server 16:42 i wonder what would happen if you comment out just the armor setting line 16:43 it doesnt look like its working for armor either 16:43 uniusz: disable curses mode and try regular tty 16:44 ok wait 16:44 see if it still persists 16:44 so i should comment armor line and leave weapon line ? 16:44 go to tty mode first 16:45 yeah still persist 16:45 i wield wand and doesnt go bold 16:46 show inventory again? 16:47 uniusz 16:47 or not... 16:47 what ? 16:47 wait i dont see 16:47 for weapons it's "weapon in hand" usually 16:48 yes 16:48 MENUCOLOR=" cursed .* wielded"=red&inverse 16:48 yeah he has it 16:48 MENUCOLOR=" uncursed .* hand"=white&bold 16:48 i have this in config 16:48 i see 16:48 argh sorry, backscroll gave me the other line as well (the one I didn't edit) 16:49 but that line works for blessed 16:49 the one with "uncursed" is the relevant one 16:49 just white 16:49 weird 16:49 your config looks good 16:49 so i dont know why its acting that way 16:49 yeah 16:49 im also dont know 16:52 when i set this to green&bold 16:52 this doesnt work also 16:52 maybe something with "uncursed" is bad 16:52 get rid of the bold statement 16:52 just have it change color see what it does 16:54 ohh i know 16:54 uncursed weapons 16:54 doesnt have word "uncursed"... 16:54 thats why 16:54 aosdict: artifacts - I found snickersnee on the ground. Haven't done my quest yet. So only arti is snick, afaik. 16:55 bouquet: you wished for the orb of fate right before grays 16:55 like my wand 16:55 uniusz put this in your config - OPTIONS=!implicit_uncursed 16:55 oh man... I completely forgot. 16:56 completely forgot the massive sphere of crystal that's super heavy 16:56 Thanks Obama... is that still a relevant meme? 16:57 no. the leader of the free world changed. nowadays you say 'Danke Merkel' 16:57 ok 16:57 bouquet: https://media.giphy.com/media/12O2XuGsIx1OvK/giphy.gif 16:58 haha 16:58 see what happened at the UN assembly today? 16:59 Is that one of those new gehennom levels in XNetHack? 16:59 I saw headlines, but not video 16:59 K2: but now all uncursed things are bold 16:59 even if not wielded... 16:59 so tweak your cfg 16:59 progress at least 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 251 points, T:748, killed by a brown mold 17:00 aosdict: the video is embarassing 17:00 nevertheless I suspect it might be historically significant to watch... 17:00 its a fucking joke 17:00 so what can i do ? 17:01 uniusz not sure but you're on right track i think. i'm leaving in about 1 min 17:03 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 17:03 okay 17:03 thanks for help anyway 17:06 -!- brucebag1 has joined #hardfought 17:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:32293 17:07 -!- brucebag1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:08 ok i fix it 17:08 look now at my cfg ;) 17:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:11 !players 17:11 uniusz: [hdf-us] Eleven [nh362] barleywine [nh362] samiam [nh362] Leeroy [slex] ranlhach66 [un] krm26 [fh] bouquet [xnh] | [hdf-eu] uniusz [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:16 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 109438 points, T:30844, killed by the Minion of Huhetotl 17:19 <@Demo> rip 17:20 K2: Did you notice any merge conflicts in recent vanilla in winprocs.h? 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2100 points, T:2935, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:38 -!- uruwi has joined #hardfought 17:44 -!- benjgvps9 has joined #hardfought 17:45 aosdict: where do you see potentially merge conflicts ? 17:46 -!- uniusz has quit [Quit: uniusz] 17:47 -!- uniusz has joined #hardfought 17:49 -!- benjgvps9 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49 K2: are you here ? 17:52 uniusz: variant dev stuff, nothing of concern unless you're working on the codebase 17:52 -!- bgmccollum3 has joined #hardfought 17:53 -!- bgmccollum3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54 -!- scoopex27 has joined #hardfought 17:54 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 17:55 -!- tenbeers has joined #hardfought 17:56 !hello 17:56 Hello tenbeers, Welcome to #hardfought 17:58 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Tha Ang Mal Law) wished for "The lightsaber prototype", on T:10278 17:59 -!- scoopex27 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00 -!- brian|lfs has joined #hardfought 18:01 -!- brian|lfs has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02 it is a bright new day somewhere, but those of us doomed to wander in the dungeons know it not 18:07 -!- lukrop26 has joined #hardfought 18:07 Is there some kind of bug (or just tendency) in 362's pet movement where a pet dog is attracted to bars in the wall of a room? I've spent like 50 turns waiting for my dog to give a damn about coming over to me so that I can go downstairs with him, but only three tiles away he is absolutely obsessed with this set of iron bars in the wall. I don't think there is even anything on the other side of them. 18:08 -!- lukrop26 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11 aosdict: yes i know 18:11 im interesting about code 18:11 especially code of nethack 18:11 <@Demo> make the next dynahack 18:12 <@Demo> port un changes onto nh4 18:13 <@Demo> Oh dynahack cause nitroglycerin 18:13 <@Demo> lol 18:13 but im wonder what merge conflicts aosdict saw in winprocs.h 18:25 ok gtg, have good night all, cya o/ 18:25 -!- uniusz has quit [Quit: uniusz] 18:26 frequency of nethack games in which I actually get around to identifying any gems: circa 1 in 75 18:32 -!- Reception12320 has joined #hardfought 18:32 <@Tone> they are light enough that it's usually worth carrying some around in the offchance that you do though 18:33 yeah, I usually do carry some. Plus there's the unicorn deal 18:33 <@Tone> yep 18:33 <@Tone> I usually don't use unicorns for luck but every once in a while I need to 18:33 same. 18:34 <@Tone> I think I had a game recently where there were no altars generated in the main dungeon 18:34 yow. I hate that. 18:34 I've had that or close to it. 18:34 maybe just my perception but games with very few altars seem to go along with finding very little food or some other essential. 18:35 very likely just my perception in a bad mood, though. 18:36 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Tha Ang Mal Law) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:13071 18:36 -!- Reception12320 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:48269 18:47 -!- floppym27 has joined #hardfought 18:48 -!- floppym27 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:53 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 18:53 . 19:07 -!- mikedlr26 has joined #hardfought 19:07 -!- Ferus11 has joined #hardfought 19:11 -!- mikedlr26 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12 -!- Ferus11 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26 <@Luxidream> YANI: untrap finds traps on chests with 100% success 19:34 <@Tone> I'm not a fan of the current implementation of #untrap 19:34 <@Tone> You shouldn't be able to do it forever 19:34 -!- mrallen11 has joined #hardfought 19:35 <@Tone> It incentivizes unintuitive and somewhat tedious gameplay 19:36 <@Luxidream> maybe it could be a continuous process like unlocking? 19:37 <@Luxidream> when you #untrap it will stop whenever you're done searching the container for traps (100%), when you're interrupted, or when you find a trap 19:37 <@Luxidream> and the whole process could take 5-6 turns or so 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] Aleyn (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 67 points, T:699, killed by an electric shock 19:38 <@Tone> That makes more sense 19:39 <@Tone> Optimal play just shouldn't involve checking a container for traps 30 times 😄 19:39 <@Luxidream> what are the odds of finding a trap on any given search 19:39 <@Tone> Which I've literally seen Tariru do during his streak 19:39 -!- igflavius17 has joined #hardfought 19:39 <@Tone> It's based on dex and dlvl I think 19:40 <@Tone> which is really weird because you can move a container to a different dlvl and your chances of finding a trap will change 19:40 <[Demo]> tariru doesnt play optimally 19:40 <@Luxidream> sounds incredibly stupid 19:40 -!- m71215 has joined #hardfought 19:41 -!- mrallen11 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:41 <@Tone> [Demo]: Fair enough 19:42 <@Tone> It still incentivizes searching for traps a potentially large number of times depending on your risk tolerance 19:42 -!- igflavius17 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43 <@Luxidream> eh, I'm just salty because I untrapped 6 times on DL2 with 18 dex and still got wrecked 19:43 <@Luxidream> makes me wonder why I even check 19:44 -!- m71215 has quit [K-Lined] 19:46 -!- Tangles has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46 <@Tone> see, should have checked 30 times :P 19:46 -!- emerson has joined #hardfought 19:49 <@Tone> @Luxidream I had that mixed up a bit by the way 19:49 <@Tone> chance to find the trap is just 10/(31 - Xlvl) 19:49 <@Tone> disarming is based on Dex and XL 19:49 <@Tone> Trap difficulty (for disarming) is based on Dlvl 19:50 <@Luxidream> okay, so for my case that would be (19/29)^6 19:50 <@Luxidream> which is about an 8% chance of happening 19:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] shadowsapex (Brd Swn Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7434 19:55 <@Luxidream> to get it below 1% at level 1 you need 12 untraps 19:56 tenbeers: I'm usually going for a high-score so I hoard gems. 19:57 <@Tone> @Luxidream Honestly I don't even know if I feel safe at 1% in nethack :P 19:57 <@Tone> assuming the trap is potentially fatal 19:58 -!- dadrc has joined #hardfought 19:58 <@Luxidream> Tariru's 30 checks puts you at 0.00052% 19:58 I can only revere high-scorers. I'm so far from worrying about that! 19:59 <@Tone> ha, I wonder if he intentionally set a confidence level or just figured that turns are cheap 20:00 can someone explain what it is when rld is the person shown as speaking but it's apparently on behalf of Tone and Luxi? 20:00 is this quotation of earlier conversation or something else? 20:01 <@Tone> tenbeers: #hardfought is connected to a nethack channel on discord 20:01 <@Tone> and bridged via the rld bot 20:01 ahh 20:01 I see! 20:01 thanks, Tone :) 20:01 is rld an acronym? 20:01 <[Demo]> nah they are lying its an ai part of an experiment 20:01 <@Tone> roguelike discord 20:01 remote language demon... lol 20:01 got it, thx ;) 20:01 <[Demo]> it takes on various fake personalities and maintains them all at once 20:02 bwaaahaha 20:02 <@Tone> shhh 20:02 <[Demo]> skynet starts here 20:02 * tenbeers values that 20:02 "do you want skynet? because this is how you get skynet..." 20:02 <@Tone> Did we pass the Turing test this time? 20:02 tenbeers: gnomes get blessed ID with an uncursed touchstone so you can make fast cash if you have one and find a general or jewelry store nearby. 20:02 fast track to protection. 20:02 i know, bouquet! i still rarely play a gnome since I suck at weight mgmt 20:02 but yeah! 20:02 gnomes rulz 20:03 i have a feeling they're in my future. I have felt so for 25 years now 20:03 best. race. evar. 20:03 -!- dadrc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11 this is a first. I read an uncursed scroll of earth and not a single boulder appeared. 20:11 is that a thing? 20:13 <@Luxidream> any message? 20:13 wow! 20:14 -!- tawr17 has joined #hardfought 20:14 I think I remember one time when I got a single boulder, and I was like, gosh! modern convenience! 20:14 that's a cursed scroll 20:15 oh? I thought the diff b/t cursed and uncursed was a boulder falling on your head *in addition* to the group surrounding you 20:15 no that's blessed vs regular. now i remember 20:15 <@Luxidream> bouquet: did you get any message? 20:15 good grief I'm rusty 20:15 <@Luxidream> after "as you read the scroll it disappears" 20:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:33321 20:16 wow, 2 shot that guy. What a lame quest nemesis. Paging aosdict! 20:16 grats 20:16 -!- tawr17 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16 and lol 20:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33322 20:17 -!- dabtech12 has joined #hardfought 20:18 Luxidream: got the message, but no boulders. I'll have to look at the replay. 20:18 <@Luxidream> I mean he hits pretty hard if you don't have AC -24 20:18 <@Luxidream> to be fair 20:18 -!- tacco| has quit [] 20:18 -!- dabtech12 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20 <@Luxidream> not everyone can be master kaen okay 20:21 that guy sux 20:23 -!- vxe has joined #hardfought 20:26 [hdf-us] [nh362] Aleyn (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 318 points, T:1301, killed by a coyote 20:26 -!- vxe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27 -!- papertigers has joined #hardfought 20:30 -!- papertigers has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36 -!- bytesighs3 has joined #hardfought 20:38 -!- bytesighs3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:38 tenbeers: [backscroll] "remote language demon" is a great backronym 20:38 thanks, my specialty ;) 20:38 @Tone @Luxidream: I have a search proposal somewhere that I think covers untrapping... 20:39 bouquet: Were you using Demonbane or something? Because I wouldn't be surprised if he went down in two hits to *that*. 20:39 regular sabre, not silver. 20:39 dual non-silver sabres. One blessed. 20:40 unless sabres are automatically silver in xnh just not described that way? 20:40 I don't think his "flesh was seared" 20:41 <@Luxidream> I think you can 1HKO him with just +7 grayswandir 20:47 Sabers are iron now by default. 20:48 -!- lukelr_29 has joined #hardfought 20:51 -!- lukelr_29 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57 also, I swear there's no luckstone in this minesend. I killed everything, even squeezed through the chokepoint. No luckstone. 20:57 Ugh! You know those days where game after game you seem to get thousands of turns in and just never get past being constantly weak and endangered? 20:58 I don't mean games where specific things go wrong. Just where a long time goes by and you're always running and no good armor and your HP growth is terrible thanks to blah Co, etc. 20:59 You keep doing your job, doing the best you can with what is available, and after an hour you're still really squishy. And the next game and the next for hours. 20:59 so it goes. Then other times are a blast 20:59 those are the best games. 20:59 I hate it when I get a /oW and GoP on lvl1. Gotta earn that. 21:01 agreed on that much, I don't want unusual luck. 21:01 -!- nyuszika has joined #hardfought 21:01 and i DO enjoy working through challenges to get somewhere. but when game after game after game you do so only to get slain purely due to being too weak to survive, it's painful. 21:01 And yet -- that is exactly how nethack has taught me to get through ordinary life better :D 21:02 bouquet: occasionally dwarves collect the luckstone 21:02 -- the acquired/developed/practiced ability to completely reset one's attitude on every play 21:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 3507 points, T:6524, killed by a wolf 21:02 bouquet: also how would you feel about removing the mimic of the mines entirely 21:03 Sacrebleu! 21:03 lol 21:03 What's wrong with 'em? 21:03 you mean with it 21:03 ? 21:03 aosdict: I killed all the dwarves. No luckstone. 21:03 Yes, I'm slow 21:04 I read mimics of the mines 21:04 oh... there was a levelport trap. Maybe he grabbed it and jumped in that. 21:04 is it possible for the dwarves to poly the luckstone too? 21:04 if they had a wand 21:04 then again I forget whether monsters zap poly wands. 21:04 mobs don't use polywands in xnh 21:04 -!- nyuszika has quit [K-Lined] 21:04 monsters only zap poly at themselves, which doesn't affect possessions 21:04 yeah. do they in vanilla? 21:04 bouquet: wrong 21:04 ah right 21:04 orly? 21:05 <@Luxidream> remove labyrinth 21:05 I didn't change anything regarding that, except possibly to make it respect difficulty 21:05 <@Luxidream> minotaurs and vampire lords are fair 21:05 minemimics are fine. Did you plan to replace them with something? 21:05 @Luxidream wouldn't you rather keep the level and just remove the minotaurs and vampire lords? 21:05 also I think 3.6 fixed the minotaur 21:06 yeah, in 32305ace 21:06 <@Luxidream> I didn't know that 21:07 what do you mean about fixing the minotaur? 21:07 <@Luxidream> it just came to mind as the most unbalanced mines end 21:07 oh there was one in that version of Mine's End, got it. 21:07 <@Luxidream> rather than mimic of the mines, which just has the least loot and an annoying choke point 21:08 Maybe it's jonadab rubbing off on me, but I've really grown to dislike the Mimic of the Mines. The gimmick is stupid and the loot is pointless. 21:09 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) defeated the Master of Thieves, on T:29797 21:10 <@Luxidream> I think orc temple gives too much though 21:11 I've never expected much loot from any Mine's End other than grabbing the luckstone and running before I make a stupid mistake and die! 21:11 there's the gems but I am so rarely even going to be ready to do anything with them. And the pots and scrolls are often just so much more fodder 21:12 sometimes if I make it as far as the castle or so I'll return to Mine's End just to make sure I didn't miss a marker or something 21:12 ... maybe that confession marks me a fool! 21:16 <@Luxidream> I think that's reasonable. it can be dangerous to explore when you're first strong enough to get the luckstone 21:23 aosdict: one old YANI I like is making GOP enchantment cause relative str increase. But allow enhancement to +7 so we can get 25 str. Or maybe not. 21:25 bouquet: that seems like an all out nerf which would therefore be unpopular 21:26 don't you love angry players swarming to IRC and yelling at you about stuff like that? 21:27 no 21:27 <@Luxidream> 25 = 18/** anyway 21:28 <@Luxidream> what's the difference 21:28 I don't think that's true? 21:28 <@Luxidream> besides mjollnir 21:28 isn't 18/** like 21 21:28 <@Luxidream> and carrying capacity 21:28 <@Luxidream> I mean gameplay effects 21:29 come on git, at least make some basic attempt at merging these independent things that have nothing to do with each other. 21:29 ha 21:30 -!- Knyght15 has joined #hardfought 21:31 bhaak: Noticed in the recent commit that mentions hardfought in the game history that it calls it "Junehack". 21:32 o no 21:32 Someone should make a PR to fix that 21:33 or bhaak could just do it, since he is on the devteam and also is in charge of junethack 21:34 TIL bhaak is on the DT 21:34 Didn't he also make Un? 21:35 I mean, he hasn't actually made any vanilla commits since joining the devteam, but still, he's on it. 21:35 and yes, he's the unnethack author 21:35 Lol 21:35 -!- Knyght15 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35 So it's just like an honorary title? 21:36 he could make changes to vanilla if he wanted to, which seems more than honorary 21:37 <@Luxidream> doesn't he have to get people to agree to them 21:37 I dunno much about internal devteam organization 21:37 <@Luxidream> it's not like any dev team member can just arbitrarily make the mysterious force twice as bad 21:38 <@Luxidream> ais523 said something about this in the past 21:38 I mean, they technically can, but then there would be some pushback 21:38 I wonder how much coordination went into nhmall's orctown commit. 21:39 I imagine there needs to be agreement before a new *release* is published, and that won't happen if someone randomly inserts nonsense. 21:40 [backscroll] aosdict no i dont recall merge conflicts in winproc.h 21:40 of course i could be mistaken 21:40 K2: hah I was just about to ask 21:40 how recent is vanilla on hdf? 21:40 sep 19th 21:41 I'm getting a conflict between WC2_RESET_STATUS from vanilla, and four other WC2_* constants. 21:41 I have never touched this file. 21:42 last time that file was touched for the 362-hdf build was 5 months ago 21:43 The conflicting commit is 21a81d, from three days ago. 21:43 Tangles commit titled 'curses interface - 1st commit - NOT WORKING!' 21:44 if you pulled right now, that commit by paxed would conflict with Tangles' NOT WORKING! commit. 21:44 I ask because I want my resolution of the conflict to stay consistent with whatever 362-hdf does. 21:44 gotcha 21:45 i dont plan to pull anything over to 362-hdf until after this weekend 21:45 i'm home tomorrow to prep, then 4 day camping trip/4 wheeling 21:45 bleh, I'll just have to pick something then 21:45 or 21:45 i could attempt a merge now 21:46 * K2 is sleepy 21:46 seems like a perfect time 21:46 it's not a big conflict 21:46 -!- bcavileer22 has joined #hardfought 21:49 -!- bcavileer22 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51 hah 21:51 just the one conflict in that file 21:52 everything else ok 21:53 ok so 21:53 <[Demo]> sooo 21:54 what should WC2_RESET_STATUS be? 21:54 0x1600L ? 21:54 [Demo] :P 21:54 K2: that's not how hexadecimal works 21:54 obviously you know i dont know 21:54 i just see a pattern and roll with it 21:54 if you just want to bump it up to the next, then go with 0x1000L 21:55 alternatively 21:55 keep vanilla the way it was at 0x0100L, and move the curses ones up to 0x0200, 0x0400, 0x0800, 0x1000 21:55 ah yeah 21:55 makes sense 21:56 i will do that 21:56 and then xnh and tnnt will be on same page 21:56 i imagine AntiGulp will do same as well 21:56 that leaves 19 free bits, if you want to update the comment :) 21:56 ok ;) 21:57 I'm still wondering what tnnt is the abbrev for 21:57 the november nethack tournament 21:57 saw it on the watch list but couldn't match it to the variants I knew. 21:57 ahh 21:57 <[Demo]> teenage nutant newt trappers 21:57 there we go... 21:57 * tenbeers nutates like a hula dancer 21:59 -!- b3niup19 has joined #hardfought 22:01 ok merged and pushed 22:01 -!- sc_2 has joined #hardfought 22:01 -!- b3niup19 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01 that was a simple one 22:02 like it when it's that way 22:02 -!- sc_2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06 NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers) 22:06 <[Demo]> yey 22:10 -!- luis` has joined #hardfought 22:10 there's a Hardfought page on the wiki 22:10 awesome 22:11 i mean, i made a placeholder for it a long time ago 22:11 but i never really posted anything there 22:11 now there's all this stuff 22:11 Including 343 NAO 22:12 someone remove pinobot from the page, it's dead 22:12 K2: You should link to the 361hdf and 343hdf repos somewhere 22:13 -!- luis` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13 yeah i am gonna edit the page 22:14 pinobot keeps dying, then coming back, then dying again... 22:15 when there's time we should really see about hosting our own version of it 22:15 but that'll be a ways off 22:15 hardfought, the all-encompassing 22:15 <[Demo]> dont be evil 22:15 I think I can hear Tangles' groan all the way from australia 22:18 Why's that? 22:18 [Demo] do you work for google? 22:18 <[Demo]> no but my friend did some work for them over the summer 22:19 (All I know about Tangles is that he runs the hdf-au server and made the curses ui for 3.6.x) 22:20 -!- Welcome has joined #hardfought 22:20 -!- chuuna has joined #hardfought 22:22 -!- Welcome has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Fem Cha) killed the ghost of arnibald, the former Inmate, on T:5352 22:26 -!- distopico2 has joined #hardfought 22:26 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:27 -!- chuuna has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28 -!- nolyc12 has joined #hardfought 22:29 -!- nolyc12 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29 -!- distopico2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:30 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) defeated Croesus, on T:31201 22:33 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 22:44 great Lugh that's bad... a knight rolled with 8 Dx 22:44 * tenbeers looks forward to jousting 22:44 but that 18 Ch will surely make up for it. /flex 22:46 you're charmingly clumsy 22:46 -!- Steejo24 has joined #hardfought 22:51 -!- Steejo24 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51 <@Luxidream> the "clumsy anime girl" trope? 22:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof helm of brilliance", on T:40509 23:00 go bouquet go 23:01 go go go... to bed! 23:01 night 23:03 'night! 23:08 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 35572 points, T:10413, quit 23:11 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class 'L', on T:32284 23:11 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class 'h', on T:32285 23:11 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class 'R', on T:32291 23:12 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class 'n', on T:32291 23:15 -!- PasiFist25 has joined #hardfought 23:15 -!- PasiFist25 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16 PasiFist sounds like paxed's alternate account for playing pacifist games. 23:16 or monk games. 23:16 -!- Mirici27 has joined #hardfought 23:18 neat-o - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/bbb81700f543c85f8209e6c05ce77d7e5b3e5f46 23:18 that caused the most annoying of the merge conflicts I had to deal with 23:19 <@Luxidream> the blessed +0 gremlinbane 23:19 -!- manuel_ has joined #hardfought 23:19 -!- Mirici27 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:22 "you set the figurine of a floating eye down next to you and it transforms. You get a bad feeling about this." -- ah, but I have a lance! :D 23:22 -!- manuel_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26 -!- scarface2 has joined #hardfought 23:29 -!- scarface2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:34 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] barleywine (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 12212 points, T:8890, killed by a water elemental 23:45 -!- Kinsmir8 has joined #hardfought 23:49 -!- Kinsmir8 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:52 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided umber hulks, on T:33746